Warhammer 40k thread. DOW 3 and DeathWing excitement!
>>336665640
>you will nevva be an orky pilit
warhammer is chuuni as fuck
>>336665640
>No Imperial Guard
Waiting for expansion packs...
>>336665640
Orks are Dum.
>>336665640
>Deff Skwadron game never
>>336665640
Space Hulk: Brouzouf Edition is one of the only games this heretic is looking forward to this year.
Based Streum On, they get the important stuff right, and the stuff they get wrong is so comedically broken it becomes a right.
>You hear a knock at the door and open it to be met with this sight
What do?
>>336666065
run up the stairs
>Relic's Biggest RTS yet.
You know I'm gonna be pissed when the IG turn up and if space marines get a squad of 10 tactical marines and IG don't get squads of 25+
>>336666189
What if each individual IG unit ends up being like five Guardsmen, so you have a squad of ten IG it would look like you have like 50 guardsmen in one spot?
>>336666124
Not even stairs can impede the Deathwatch
>>336666065
Praise Rowboat Girlyman as my spiritual liege.
>>336666065
Offer them fenrisian grade beer.
>>336666065
Praise Emperor
>>336666470
What would you do if a Deathwatch Kill Squad showed up at your door and one of them rushed in and gave you a stunner right into your kitchen table before leaving
>>336666391
I'd cry. incredibly hard.
Also I decided to dig out the final IG codex (not the astra millitarum bullshit) to work out what ONE full sized unit would be.
A squad of 5
5 Squads of 10
5 squads of six, 3 set-up weapons per squad
2 Squads of six Equipped with flamers, grenade launchers, snipers, meltas or plasma guns.
That works out at 91 models per squad at max power, if they didn't break those down into specialist units you could train.This isn't including the 50 conscripts that could be thrown in with that. Which honestly I would love to see, if they just made it so and Ork's breath counted as a flame template and they couldn't even survive a mean glance from an eldar.
I'm playing Soulstorm on Hard as Necrons right now.
Holy shit I fucking love Necrons. I wish they would return for DOW3.
>>336666891
Wrong person, meant for >>336666337
>>336666065
I'd show them my inquisitorial rosette and ask them what they're doing in my house.
>>336666891
Cry in a good way or bad way?
>>336666910
The problem is you're looking at the AAAAGE old codex varient of Necrons. They would play differently. Have a different feel and just all around wouldn't be the same. Although the new Necrons are leagues above the old ones. Less gimmicy and more useful. Plus it'd be hilarious to see something like the Necron Pylon or Megalith as their super-weapon, since the nightbringer and deceiver are now just glorified pokemon.
>take out DoW2's decent cover system
>downgrade back to DoW1's "stand in crater" cover shit
ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS MAKE DAWN OF WAR 2 WITH MORE UNITS AND PERHAPS BASE BUILDING.
FUCK.
>>336667018
If we're talking about the Deathwatch kicking down the door to my hive world apartment, probably in a bad way. it's hard to hide a metric tonne of Slanneshi magazines and holo-vids.
>>336666065
Call pic related to fuck his shit up.
>>336667124
No I meant the IG squad padding
>>336666065
>What do?
Join'em to purge the galaxy of xenos scum.
>>336667432
Anon, I don't think you'd survive the next fifteen minutes of working with the Deathwatch
>>336667175
Okay, DoW2 kind of pissed me off with it. But it wasn't TOO bad in the end The smaller scale combat did even things out. Which is kind of funny because nearly every IG squad got larger coming from DOW1 apart from storm troopers.
If they stay the same size it's not going to feel right unless they lower the costs in retrospect to the new spawning system. Or to be viable they'd need to be much larger squad.
I think the best way to play a more table-toppy RTS game for 40K (and especially an IG focused game) would be a men-of-war system where you have control of everything down to a single man if needs be.
Warhammer games general when?
>>336667517
It's still worth to ask, just because I may see a squad of laughing space marines.
Okay am I retarded or something. I'm trying to look for this Deathwatch game and I can't find anything except for some shitty mixed review thing on steam.
Is there a mod or something that makes the units function better in DoW 1? Getting all your squads to attack all at once is a nightmare. All the squads in front get munched on, while the marines in back never get to fire a shot until I move them in manually fighting the other squads for positioning all the while., combine this with weapons that can only be used only while standing still and you can see where I'm going with this.
Am I doing it wrong? Do the earlier missions just have such restricted narrow corridors? I just want to send as many marines into battle with as little micro as possible.
>>336666065
Bow and make the sign of the Aquila.
>>336666391
i fucking love the banter in wh40k threads.
>>336667983
Dawn of War 1 is kind of weird. In some cases it honestly just feels oversized. I THINK there's a mod that allows you to zoom the camera out much further, that will help the most with positioning and making sure you select everything
>>336666065
>>336668487
Oh boy, it's a good job you guys can pull out a PS457197HD and play an RTS game while silly marines go out and get themselves killed.
>>336666065
Fall on my knees and praise the god Emperor of Mankind.
>>336667537
I tried and it died within 2 hours.
Buildings looks pretty good thus far.
Would humies find ork food like the juicy Squigs palatable?
>>336669078
Holy shit they've released more screenshots? Also I have to say this game has a sort of pixelart ascetic in that it looks nicer the further away you are. I just hate the pristine look of things. Although armour degradation would be cool. The more your unit fights and stuff (or if they include the veterancy mechanic from DOW2) the more damaged and chipped the armour becomes.
>>336669112
compared to IG rations i'd wager it's a goddamn delicacy
>>336669279
>pristine look
yeah, that's the thing that makes me iffy.
it feels as if that's something that can be fixed with textures, so i'm glad the models don't look bad, but there really needs to be more dirt and grime in the grim darkness.
>>336669078
I know all of it will be pre-built and there probably wont be any actual construction sequences, but I hope their set-up sequences are really good looking. I have a fetish for building/setup sequences in base building games.
>>336669279
>>336669112
As long as it's not trying to eat the human's face at the moment, absolutely.
>>336669381
Oh, I think I read on PC gamer how drop-pods work. There's a building you get that's a relay. After a charge up you can throw three squads into this building a deep strike them with pods. its pretty cool.
Necrons when?;_;
>>336669525
Newcrons or Oldcrons though? I mean if you want the ones you got in Soulstorm I'm afraid I have some bad news...
>>336669624
I shouldnt have to answer this question
>>336669078
Where's the eldar building?
>>336669674
what kind of killer robots you want senpai?
just pharhoh my shit up
>>336669525
The statue in >>336669078 looks egyptian themed so possible right on release.
>>336665640
Deathwing > Inquisitor > Armada > DOW 3 > Total war
Prove me wrong.
YFW Chaos does make an appearance and attacks the three factions mid game.
Led byEliphas again
>>336669817
That fucking throttle
>>336669904
for as bad as cnc 4 was im glad someone decided to immortalize that fucking picture
i dont think ive ever laughed so hard in my life
>>336669381
>>336669078
>it's Starcraft 3.
>>336669817
Definitely Newcrons for me. Much more variety and more fun to play. The new models outweigh the shit they did to the old ones and some of the nerfs.
>>336669674
When people have parroted the 'I WANT TAU, I WANT NECRONS' and you actually explain the necron changes to people. Lots get turned right away.
>>336670026
aight senpai ill get you your throttle bot straight to your house
>>336670026
Fuck you faggot.
>>336669884
SYYYYYYYYN-DRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII would be a better choice. Just because I need to hear it again.
>>336670194
Sindri is canon dead though, his soul got eaten by the daemon of the Maledictum.
MY
LEGS
ARE
OK
>>336670017
dont worry im sure theyll fix it
heh heh heh....
>>336670123
Hue. These guys would shit all over the newcrons as something fun to play. Don't get me started with what they do to commie space fish.
>>336665640
Instead of DOW 3 i want another big budget w40k game that isn't deathwing.
Goddamn.
>>336670993
But they look gay.
>>336666065
Bow down before the mighty warriors and offer them beer.
So the Necrons essentially win the whole deal in the end right?
>>336665976
>let's keep the faction with the best tanks and biggest cannons for later
>>336669078
looks like some indie trash on kickstarter
>>336671070
Relic fucked up Space Marine and CoH 2, they can't do games for shit.
>>336670432
They even made buildings symmetrical to look like terran bases.
>>336669858
i dont think inquisitor will be good otherwise i agree
I lost my WH40k reaction faces. Please help.
>>336669078
>>336669381
holy shit, could this be any less grimdark
>>336665640
judging by this picture, the Orks are the memes of wh40k universe?
>>336669624
>oldcrons
>copy-pasted t1000 army
Yeah that looks pretty cool *yawn* Let me just... zzz zzz
check em.
>>336672587
Yeah but it's Current year. Granted these games are pretty old but I'm sure there's some sperg that doesn't even know there are 40K models and that it's a boardgame. Let alone that necrons got a massive update.
>Click all the images of factories.
>>336672734
check what? my 9?
>>336672806
no, my 3
>>336667119
Did they seriously?
Are they retarded?
>>336666189
Throw up from the smell.
>>336672891
From what's been said and shown. The game is kind of going down a route of line units and specialists. In a situation like this it makes cover a tiny bit redundant, and at the same time overpowered.Like...you're going to have a set of units that everyone has and at the same time a set of cards that allow you to spawn in units that you want. Think CoH2 but you get to make your commander loadout rather than pick one.
SO basically... Games are going to be this tug of war style play...perhaps that's wrong, more like hunkered down trench warfare. Where specific uses of these elites will be the ones that do all the work. and you secure your position with your main army.
>>336667075
>C'Tan reduced to the GW equivalent of FF summons
>>336667119
Hey man, I was glad that Relic tried to change up the formula, but you can't call that broken and unreliable mess of a cover system in DoW2 anything but pointless.
>>336672393
I fucking love Slaanesh! I have this song on loop for fucking hours.
If I played the game, how do you "play" Slaanesh? Buy Chaos Space marines and just paint them purple and pink? Do they have to be a specific chapter?
>>336672479
everyone's a meme
>>336672479
40k is literally a meme setting, it's a parody at its core.
>>336673503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsGRsDe3iRw
This song: "Slaanesh sings through us!"
>>336673503
Emperor's Children has a codex. Google it.
>>336669817
THAT GAME NEVER HAPPENED!!!!
FUCK YOU FAGGOT!!! KAIN LIVES!!!!!!!!
>>336673503
Slaanesh is only really represented by...Noise Marines in Two I think. As for a chapter I think it's Emperor's Children
As much flak as they get, the imperial knight and wraithknight are pretty cool looking
>>336667119
Real cover or true cover or whatever the broken buggy mess relic call their baby was a disaster and the number one thing DoW2 players asked to be removed from day one since it basically make units uselessly hump cover and never shoot (rip ranged heroes).
It wasn't until retribution that Relic agreed to turn it down to slightly mitigate the issue.
Casual palace /v/ wants this to return, I am World Eater mad.
>>336669817
>can control straight line speed
>clearly no steering input present on something with tracks
>can control everything else mentally
What the fuck
So why is Jaghatai the best of the Primarch?
>>336674087
That's a funny way to say Vulkan.
>>336674165
>>336673823
I think the Imperial Knight looks fine. it should be this large shiny massive thing glistening with propaganda. I don't think we've seen the ingame render of the Wraithknight. But judging by the Eldar screenshots when compared to the trailer, it's not going to look anywhere near as good.
>>336673968
Cover was the bane of that game's existance. Elite seem's to have fixed some of the shooting issues. But playing IG is cancerous because you can only get maybe 5 or 6 of the squad in come and shoot, while the rest sit back and get pelted. But once more Elite kind of fixes that. This new cover system is kinda better, so long as deep craters and other obvious objects can be used rather that 'suspiciously placed generic chest high sandbags'.
>>336674165
That's not an Imperial Knight that's a Nemesis DREADKNIGHT.
>>336674087
>>336674148
If the answer is anything but Sanguinius, you're a fucking heretic.
>>336674245
As in 'when will we get a Dreadknight?'
>>336669078
Man, this and the other screenshots really show that Imperial Knight doesn't fit the aesthetic of the Space Marines at all.
Feels so out of place.
>>336674165
>>336674165
>Grey Knights as another Stand-Alone faction dlc
>The Baby Carriage as the relic unit
I wouldn't mind desu
>>336674406
>Man, this and the other screenshots really show that Imperial Knight doesn't fit the aesthetic of the Space Marines at all.
Good thing they're not actually part of the Adeptus Astartes, and only a handful are dedicated to the Imperium.
>>336665640
Heh good ol' Killboy
>>336674504
I know, but I like my dudes to share an aesthetic. I'm not going to want to build one because of that.
>>336672393
Is this grimdark enough for you?
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Daemonculaba
>>336674406
Kinda what >>336674504 said but there's a tad more too it. Space marines are made to get the job done and allied to a chapter. An Imperial Knight is like the cavalry Knights of the 40K world. Rich planetary governors of Forge Worlds who are board commission Imperial Knights to be made. There's usually only one a planet. They're crewed by there family and retinues. It's basically where rich faggy stormtroopers go when daddy doesn't want their son to breath air or be within five feet of the poor. It's why their colours are different. They are literally house colours. They have NOTHING to do with the chapter they're serving.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYvgk6JVsNM
It bothers me that in the section covering the colourful nature of the units, they say it's so that they can pander to newcomers of the series so they're able to see at a glance which race and unit is which and what they do.
Dawn of War/40k in general has always been a niche fucking series, why do we have to start handholding newcomers now? The only people who were waiting for this for the last 5 years were people who already loved the series.
God dammit Relic
>>336674685
That's a pretty backstory to them. I really can't see Space Marines agreeing to using or cooperating with them though.
>>336674758
I expect nothing from modern Relic, so at least they can't disappoint me.
>>336674758
>why do we have to start handholding newcomers now?
I guess because the RTS-genre is pretty much dead.
>>336674758
FEMALE SPACE MARINS INCOMING
>tfw filth Mon-keighs thinks they are hot shit with their lame emperor or their shit gods
>>336674827
Because they're small enough to carry about in the sense of the Astartes rather that a tank company or a titan. They're mobile. Also that model is a Paladin. That weapon is an 'Assault Battle Cannon'. Let that sink in. It's an automatic leman russ on it's arm. Not only is that abjectly horrifying but it's something being requested by the Astartes who will probably be able to switch out that cannon for different vairents. Demolisher, Nova, Punisher or executioner, you name it. It's pretty much the best thing they could have in a canon sense and cannon sense.
>>336674165
This thing would be cooler if it was for and by the orkz
>>336669078
You know, it doesn't look as bad to me anymore. Maybe because the impact of the trailer has vanished so it doesn't look worse in comparison.
Goddamn that was a good trailer.
>>336675125
Fuck off and die knife-ear
>>336669078
disgusting
>>336675406
oi oi git
is this an apm heavy game or actually playable?
>>336677021
It's probably an APM heavy game, but purely because it's looking to be large scale game. and more than likely have all the skills from 2.
>>336677158
is it as bad as starcraft?
>>336677021
Did you mean SC2 pro level heavy?
>>336677247
Yes and no. Starcraft treats each unit induidivually. This wont. So you'll have less Actions for moving a blob around. But if it's anything like 2. The standard unit will have atleast 2 or 3 abilities. And unlike DoW2 where you may only have two or three of these units. Like space marines or scouts. You'll be controller 5 of these at a time, more than likely.
>>336677416
>The standard unit will have atleast 2 or 3 abilities.
Based on what's been revealed so far, only leadership characters will have multiple abilities and levelling.
>>336677247
Probably nowhere near Brood War level. Maybe not even SC2.
>>336678008
Eh, if you'll able to attach multiple sergeants and such to regular squads, they can have several.
Vehicle ailities will probably depend on equip
>>336675936
yeah, definitely cooler
