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Protip: This is the most overpowered thing in the game. If you can't see that, you might need to git gud.
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>if you aren't whining on an anonymous imageboard that something is too hard for you, you need to git gud
overtard logic
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>>336659663
She's shit
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>>336659663

I wud fuck the shit out of this bitch
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>>336659663
more like you need to get good before you keep getting shit on bitch
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OFFICIAL /v/ OVERWATCH TIERLIST

GOD TIER
>Widowmaker
>Lúcio
>Reinhardt
>Genji

HIGH TIER
>Torbjörn
>McCree
>Tracer
>Mercy

MID TIER
>Roadhog
>Soldier 76
>Junkrat
>Hanzo
>Zarya
>Mei
>Bastion

LOW TIER
>Pharah
>Winston
>D.Va
>Zenyatta

SHIT TIER
>Reaper
>Symmetra
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>>336659663
shame it only comes in poo poo flavour
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>>336659663
I agree OP. Some classes can't even touch her.
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Mercy is chubby, CHUBBY!
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In closed beta this bitch had the highest winrate in the game

Teleporter is such a game-changer
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>>336660291
>mei's thighs

JESUS
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>>336660195
WHY DO YOU FAGGOTS THINK WINSTON IS SHIT HOLY SHIT
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>>336659663
how is saying something is overpowered implying you are having trouble fighting it being good

sounds like you need to git gud shitter
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>>336660337
He has tickle damage and too big of a hitbox for his total life. That being said I win almost every game I play as Winston. He's definitely a team player and requires some thought. However, if I was playing ranked or trying my hardest to win I wouldn't go Winston.
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>>336660337
Pay him no mind
That dumb fag posts his list in like every Overwatch thread
He thinks if he spams it enough maybe someone will think he's right
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>>336660337
Nigga have you PLAYED Winston? He is shit, I dunno why but he is.
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>>336660195
probably the most inaccurate tier list I've seen.
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>>336660337
They do not yet fully understand the power of the hot monkey dick
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>>336660291
>Mercy's perfect figure
>Mei's lower half
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>>336659663
>Pick Symmetra on defense
>Oh yes, time to fuck some shit u--
>Pharah flies out of the gate and immediately destroys 4 turrets with one rocket and then two shots you way out of your range as your shitty ball is easily avoided by the entire enemy team
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>>336660508
>Winston's ultimate is him chimping out hard
>Check it's name
>Primal Rage
Fucking lame. It should 100% be named "Going Bananas".
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>>336660195
>Genji that high
>Pharah that low
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>>336660195
>sveedish dwarf
>high tier
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>>336659663

Sell me on this character. I tried her out and I can't git gud with her at all. Her teleporter and shield buffs seem useful, but her turrets seem to get destroyed very quickly. Is there any way to make them stronger?

Also, speaking of characters I'm bad with, how the fuck do you properly play as Anri Okita? The guns on her mech don't seem to do a lot of damage and she just seems like a slow moving target with a large hitbox. Should I be dashing into people and attempting to melee them? When should I be using her self destruct attack?

Other than those two characters, I think I have a pretty decent handle on everyone else.
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>>336660656
IN A PERFECT WORLD
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>>336659663
>Browse leftclickandholdtowin.com
>Follow Reinhart around all game
>He charges, I life-leap in tow.
>letthebodieshitthefloor.webm
>He gets constant plays of the game
>75% of team damage healed nearly every game
>Can't even lose if we try.

Yeah Symmetra is the OP support. Definitely her.
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>>336660656
He's pretty spectacular mate. Even without his turret he's got a solid shotgun with a ranged option. His armor ability gives a fuckton of extra life. And his ultimate turns him into an unkillable shotgun machine with the addition of his turret going full bastion mode on motherfuckers during the duration. You could remove his turret and he'd still be better than Zenyatta or Symmetra.
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>>336660195
God tier (relevant in any situation)
>Tracer
>Junkrat
>Soldier 76
>Genji

High tier
>Reinhardt
>Hanzo
>Bastion
>McCree

Mid tier
>Torbjörn
>Lúcio
>Reaper
>Winston
>Pharah

Low tier
>Roadhog
>Zenyatta
>Mercy
>Widowmaker
>Mei

Shit tier (completely useless)
>Zarya
>D.Va
>Symmetra
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>>336660689
Spread them out so the enemy has to look around instead of looking in one general direction
Stay close to where they are so you can go on them while they're distracted by your turrets
Stick to places that players might try to flank solo
You can also put them on moving objectives
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SIX TURRETS

SIX
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>>336660835
>Zarya
>completely useless
>I'm a fucking retard please fucking kill me.org
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>>>336660707
>He didn't try to lose by either staying in spawn or jumping off a cliff repeatedly.
You wern't really trying to lose, m8.
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STOP DIVING ON THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE ALONE. YOU STUPID FUCKS.
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>>336660689

Dunno about Symmetra but get up close with DVa and blast with guns, she's best at zooming in and flanking to fuck shit up, drop her mech on contested points when you self destruct
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I wish everything didn't die so fast. It's ridiculous.
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>>336660919
STOP BEING A PUSSY AND HIDING IN A NOOK ALONE YOU FUCKING FAGGOT.
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>>336660331
>thighs thicker than any other girl's waist
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>>336660852
>>336660991

I'll keep this in mind, thanks. Think I'll go practice with them some more.
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She is overpowered because of one reason

Everyone in this game is slow as shit so a teleporter in a game where both teams are full of slow fucks, in a game that is ALL about meat grinding, is actually broken.
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>>336659663
Junkrat's bomb is insane.
>play payload map on mystery heroes
>spawn as healer, whore to the best of my ability, keeping folks alive and topped up
>blaze thru map, about 3/4 way
>junkrat rollerbombs whole team in one shot
>progress stumped entirely in one hit

Yeah, we won in the end, but holy shit. One fucking attack?
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>>336660291
Mercy is THICK.
Mei is CHUBBY.
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No, the overpowered characters are as follows:
McRee
Hanzo
Bastion
Reaper
Soldier 76


These are characters universally picked by retards who can't play without auto-aim gimmicks and instant win buttons and think they have skills.
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>>336661165
>i don't know how to counter pick :(((
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>>336660901
>h-how dare you insult muh waifu
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>almost every time i play this game i remember why i hate team games

Holy fucking shit people are fucking RETARDED.
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>>336661165
>any of those
>OP

lol
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>>336660835
>mei
>lowtier

Mei is so OP it's stupid.
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>>336659663
The only time I find Symmetra good is while defending on Kings Row, apart from that she's pretty shit.
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>>336661165
Apart from 76 you listed all the shit or low-mid tier characters.
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>>336660689
Symmetra is one of the few characters that gets completely fucked by a few others and is massively map dependent. Do not try to play Symmetra on King of the Hill maps unless you're getting carried hard. Her turrets die to crossfire all the time, the teleporter is too easy to find, and her weapon is too weak. Likewise, Symmetra on offense maps like escorting the payload or capturing points is also bad. She slows down too much to plant her turrets effectively and can't do much with only 3.

Characters that absolutely dominate Symmetra are Tracer, McCree, Reaper, Roadhog, Junkrat, and Pharah. If they get close to you and they're good, chances are they will kill you in almost every situation.

The goal of Symmetra is to lob full power energy balls into heavily trafficked areas while you stay in cover and around your turrets so you can ambush niggas with your turret + close range beam burst damage. Once you've got your teleporter you need to find a safe place relatively close to the action to put it. Other than that she's pretty shit. Definitely one of the worst supports. She plays more like an ambush character with a support ultimate and a weak shield.
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>putting reinhardt in any tier

He's basically a necessity.
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>>336661321
If you like griefing and ruining games for your teammates.
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>>336661210
Not even a waifu thing. A well played Zarya fucking dominates. If she gets her passive power charge to 100 she can melt literally any character in her range within seconds. Her shields are ridiculously strong and her ultimate is essentially a guaranteed multikill on the payload delivery maps.
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>play mei
>single handedly make us able to not only take the cart and push, but kill a fuck ton of enemies and saving allies with walls
>my team still can't pull their heads out of their asses and ONLY play reaper, genji or tracer and arew fucking useless and we lose while I try to solo push the cart

and this is why i won't be getting this game.
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>>336661540
>my friend loves playing mei because waifu
>he fucking sucks hard with her
>always gets me killed with his dumb walls
>never uses his iceblock in time
>always whiffs his icicle shots
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>symmetra
>her "healing" ability gives allies 25 shield
It's fucking nothing
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>>336661540
No, but I like freezing enemies then oneshot killing them.

I like sniping McCrees and Widowmaker cross-map with my secondary.

I like walling off Mercys and Lucios from their tanks; Blocking Tracers in a room while they get frozen.

I like outsustaining everyone, surviving Reaper, Pharah, Roadhog, and other Mei ults, with my healing and damage denying secondary ability.

I like having an ult that does a shitton of damage, and sets up a Team Kill for my Team.

Mei is crazy OP with the right team comp.
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>>336660593
I thought it was "Nerd Rage" was so disappointed when it wasn't.
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>>336661867
Nerd Rage would be too offensive anon.
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>>336660195
>>336660835
Zarya is fine. You are just bad at the game. Kill streaks left and right. Just get gud. :p
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>>336661165
How the fuck you dying to 6 shot McCree?
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>>336661768
Her shield ability isn't even enough to stop Widowmaker from one shotting Tracer and Zenyatta. It's fucking worthless. What's worse is you can only use it on an ally once per life.
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>playing zenyatta
>defending with my team
>they push, diva flies up all hot shit
>hit her with a discord orb
>dead in 3/4's of a second

his heal isn't great, but holy christ, the discord orb is basically a death sentence for any character that isn't a pure tank, I was consistently getting 8+ kill streaks earlier
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>>336662117
>>336661768
It was nerfed. Used to be 50

+50 health, that regenerates, its actually fucking strong. Symmetra+Lucio was a thing that was very annoying

Now she is useless though
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>>336661165
So fucking wrong it hurts. Of the ones you listed only Bastion is near OP and even then he just needs a slight nerf.

In my opinion the only character that is good enough to be classified as OP is Lucio. He does what every other support does, but better. He's viable in any team comp and is almost necessary in King of the Hill maps. And hell, even with all that he's not that broken. The other supports just need buffs.
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>literally any fps I play I maintain a consistent level of skill
>for some reason forget everything while playing this game

I even fuck up basic shit like aiming.
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>>336662375
They will probably buff Symmetra's shield after the beta when they see how fucking useless +25 shield is
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>>336662375
She can be pretty deadly if you put those turrets in good places
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>>336662231
Zenyatta is infuriating to play as if the other team has a good Roadhog or Widowmaker. Those characters fucking annihilate Zenyatta like a chainsaw through wet paper.
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how do i play le music man? do i just float around my team all day because i don't think my weapon does anything
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>>336662508
>>336662508
No you can't. People just walk in and walk out after noticing them, or if they are in an open area near the objective just shoot them.
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being a MOBAFPS is probably throwing you.

it's not really a shootan, it's an assfaggot with pew pew lasor guns. see: terrible tick rate, press an "i win" button to make everybody on your screen die, etc
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>>336662471

it was nerfed in the first place because it made genji, tracer, and reaper ridiculous.
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>>336662427
>get POTG as Widow
>everyone in the game sees me missing 8/10 shots i fire, the other two only being lucky ass headshots on squishy chars
>get laughed out of the game by everyone

I don't wanna play Overwatch anymore
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>>336662612
I get that, I know when my team is fucking up because our composition is shit (and I'll admit I may be guilty of that sometimes). What I don't get is why I can't even maintain a bead on someone as tracer when I fucking destroy people with the lighting gun in quake. The only time my brain even remembers how to do anything is when I'm flying around as junkrat.
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>>336660692
MEN LIKE ME WOULD NOT EXIST
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>>336662559
Your weapon is decent and has a pretty long range with a good fire rate. Just hover near your team with the heal aura on, Press E when shit starts going down, Press Q when there's a chaotic team fight, and just pelt people with sick beats in the mean time. Always be sure to play speed beat when running anywhere. He's really easy to play and is really fucking good.
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>>336661653
>first time playing Pharrah
>use ult
>friendly Mei puts ice wall up right in front of me in the middle of it
>kill myself
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>>336660707
>tfw a Reinhardt charges at you, misses, and falls off the cliff
I swear I hadn't laughed so hard in ages
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>>336662760
Because Tracer is garbage at fighting and is only used for disruption.
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>>336662604
>No you can't
git gut fag
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>every map where it comes down to a single choke point with no alternate paths
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>>336662660
Just give it +50 shield again, but give it a cooldown. Bam, not useless anymore and now a decision has to be made on who to use it on and when. I just balanced it and made it more interesting. Even better, make it decay over time so you can't have 5 people with +50 shields on with one Symmetra.
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>>336660835
>Mei low tier
Your entire list is completely void based on that retarded statement alone
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How to counter 3 fucking Reinhardt's and 3 Torbjorns without anyone using an Ult
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>>336662846
I get that, but things like my use of movement and aim should be much better than they are, that's what I don't get.
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>>336662868
>git gud
How am I supposed to make the turrets not shit? They are designed to be actual shit. Symmetra herself does good damage, but the turrets are shit for area denial since they just walk in and kill them.
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>>336662427
It doesn't even matter. This game is incredibly shallow because blizzard did what they always do and made it accessible to every brain dead moron.
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>>336660337
his ult is ass, anon, and his weapon's not great either. everything else is good.
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>>336662869
>hanamura
>the last point
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>>336662937
>How am I supposed to make the turrets not shit?
Not putting those in shit places
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>>336659663
>called Symmetra
>Has the least symmetrical design of the entire cast
Does this bother anyone else
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>>336662846
Tracer is for turning Mercy, Lucio, and Bastion into cheese. You get in, time bomb them niggas, then rewind the fuck out and wait to do it all over again.
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>>336662869
are there any like that? I cant think of any
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>>336662920
1 Mei
1 Junkrat
1 Pharah

Good luck getting your retarded pub teammates to figure this out though.
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>>336662937
>put all 6 turrets in a blind corner
>enemy turns the corner
>walks into the turrets and melts before even knowing what happened

Individually the turrets suck yeah, but all 6 of them in one spot will melt everyone except the super tanks

And don't place them out in the open like a retard. Hide them in a corner.
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>>336662920
You're gonna need an ult but once you use it then they're fucked cause you destroyed their sentries. I feel like a good pharah and tracer can do a lot against that shit
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>>336663000
That china town control point map, the one that backs into some kind of temple. Just before the first point is a GIANT open courtyard with all kids of places for Bastions and turrets to hang out.
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>>336662956
>everything else is good.

Meaning a shitty Reinhart barrier and a leap.

Seriously, just give me Reinhart or a good Zarya instead.
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>you will never have your closed beta back without these open beta shitters and plebs being able to buy themselves into the game at release

It was so nice... All you onlywatchers whining on the forums and not ruining pubs. It was a fun couple of months.
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>>336662934
The game feels different to most other fps to be fair. It needs a bunch of tweaking sensitivity etc to feel playable and on console it just feels like molasses constantly.
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I played this shitty game for like 45mins yesterday and got bored.

I have no idea how people can actually be hyped because of it.
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>>336662894
it used to have a higher cooldown when it was 50 hp, you barely had enough time to give everyone a shield before the game starts, let alone plan out your turrets

letting everyone have a shield isnt such a big deal its basically giving 50 hp to tracer and genji breaks them, everyone else is fine
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>It's a "the round starts and your entire team is running out the same door" episode

STOP IT
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>>336663026
This is the truth. On the egyptian map it's good on the second point to put them in that area off to the side of the point which is basically a hallway with three exits. Just put all 6 around the entrance closest to the enemy spawn and it essentially shuts down an entire route for the enemy team unless they all go in together. Places like that are far and few between unfortunately and she's pretty shit everywhere else.
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>>336660835
>>336660195
>Mei
>Low and Mid
Nigga she is high at least.
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>>336662920

literally any combination of healer, shields, and dps. That team can't even threaten you unless all the torbs have ult
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>>336662992
>you need ultimate to not be useless

Okay but what do you do the other 95% of the time?
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>>336663112
Me either. It's a really mediocre game. It feels like a F2P game.
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>>336659663
Wrong image, m8
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>>336663059
if its a giant open courtyard then how is it a chokepoint?

furthermore, if theres a bunch of turrrets out there who cares? the point is surrounded by walls so they cant attack you
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>>336663174
I guess a lot of people like to repeat the same maps for hundreds of hours. That's why shitty mobas are popular.
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>>336663035
That's the thing though, I'm struggling to find counters for everyone because every time i ask, they just say "lmao just use your ult what are you stupid"

except 99% of the time I my ult is charging so 99% of the time I can't do jack shit against those goddamn Reinhardt's and fucking Bastion/Torbjorn combos.

Yeah, I use my ult and they're dead. Now what do I do for the next five minutes until my ult is ready again goddammit when all 3 reinhardts and torbjorns come back in six seconds
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I am fucking tired of my allies telling ME to get gud after a bastion has mowed THEM all down, and I'm the only one who thinks his range with no falloff is ultra retarded

Bastion gets the fucking play of the game EVERY game he's in, and they think he's balanced?
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>>336660291
It's physically impossible to have shapely legs being as fat as Mei, but you know pander to the ham planets anyway because that's what they think
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>>336663228
>if its a giant open courtyard then how is it a chokepoint?
Because you have to go through a single gate to get into it, and once you're in you're all out in the open while everyone else has an ice cozy position to rain death. There is no way to out maneuver them. It's like fucking Normandy.
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>>336663161
Pestering people. Tracer is garbage without her abilities. She's designed to make use of them in every fight. You zip in, start nailing people in the head with your SMGs and as soon as you're noticed you tap E and warp back out. Don't even let them try to shoot you, if they're accurate they'll melt you. When your E and Shift are on cooldown you basically just tickle people from range until they're back up.
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>be torbjorn
>Get Potg
>It's just me dead for 7 seconds while i get turret kills off screen

potg can be burtty good sometimes.
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>>336663289
That's because people are retarded. Bastion is easy to counter.
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>>336663154
I am tired of this false answer,

you can only hit one at a time when they are positioned respectively to each other

Bastion alone melts everyone he can see from the entire map away, and Torbs fucking sentry locks on instantly without a max range too

and when you have 3 bastions and 3 torbs absolutely nothing will break them
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>>336663297
maybe im not thinking of the right map, china has the indoor futuristic looking map, the one with the huge tower in the middle, and the one with the temple which you seem to be talking about.

the temple map has 3 exits to the courtyard on each side, and again, you dont even need to go through it to get to the point
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>>336663380
Bastion isn't THAT easy to counter if they're good. He needs a slower turn rate while in turret mode and slightly less life and he'd be perfect. As it is right now he's just a tad too powerful. Not gamebreaking by any means, but definitely not a simple counter.
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>>336663240
They're really boring maps aren't they? There's no real unifying theme other than this generic cartoony scifi filter.

The worst thing about is just how slow and clunky everything feels though.
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>>336663380
everyone in a vacuum is easy to counter

this is not a response worth spit
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>>336663439
torbjorns turret doesnt have max range or instant lock on anymore, they changed that months ago
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>>336663453
I was playing with some friends earlier and someone suggested giving Bastion a less than 360 degree view while in turret mode to slightly balance it. I thought that was a decent idea, considering he's supposed to have a weak spot on his back.
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>>336663453
That's true in this case but as always, git gud.
>>336663505
>this is not a response worth spit
Thanks for the delicious spit
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>>336663353
>Be Dva
>Get PotG
>It's just me launching my mech into the distance, followed by me running around some halls alone
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>>336660195

>Zenyatta in low tier

OK buddy.
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>>336663453
>As it is right now he's just a tad too powerful.

Bastion is literally the weakest he's ever been, and he's always been considered a pub-stomper who gets wrecked by players with half a brain
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>>336663540
any distance possible in any map it can still see everything wherever its placed, its functionally still max range
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>>336663543
they already tried that, it was terrible.

1 tracer or genji means the bastion is never doing anything

and it means bastion has to be exclusively in corners or else anyone can easily get him
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>>336663543
Agreed. The problem with Bastion is if you can hit him, he can hit you, and a good one with solid reactions and good aim can usually kill you faster than you can kill him. For example, with Soldier 76 you can sneak up on Bastion and start shooting him in the back, but with quick enough reactions the Bastion has enough life and does enough damage to spin around and melt you before you can take him out. Getting the drop on Bastion should be a death sentence.
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>>336663592
You're an idiot. Being OP doesn't mean you can't be countered it just means he does way too much damage compared to all the other characters.
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>you will never fuck widowmaker

what's the point of even living
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>>336663643
how the fuck is that different from how people play him now anyway?

tracer being his hard counter is fucking better than no counter other than dva's mech auto destruct
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>>336663610
thats not true at all, in most places on hanamura's second point you can easily outrange it

same with most of the payload maps
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>>336660195
>Reaper and Pharah that low
Shit list.
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>>336660337
>/v/
>good at games
pick one
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>>336663680
>with Soldier 76 you can sneak up on Bastion and start shooting him in the back
lmao
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>>336663687
He does a lot of damage because he gives up his ability to move in exchange

If he didn't do a lot of damage he'd be worthless
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>>336660835
>Pharah
>Anything but absolute god tier

R u fuckin dum. u're the worts.
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>>336663713
>i-in some highly s-specific p-places it can't see everything

great response
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>>336663453
>He needs a slower turn rate while in turret mode

No he needs to be locked into a 180 degre forward arc, so he can basically only shoot forward.

It's retarded that he can just instantly swivel his turret behind him and kill the one trying to flank him with supreme damage and accuracy and then just repair himself and carry on.

This change would make positioning actually important.
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>>336663705
since now he can turn 360 there is no reason to be in a corner, you can be in a better spot.

>bastion has no counter meme

git gub
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>>336663737
>movement mattering if you can kill people faster than they even become aware of your position
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>>336660656
What is the origin of this picture?
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>>336663768
am I wrong?
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>>336663816
>Bastion punishes shitters who lack awareness

Working as intended
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>>336663816
well then they should be more aware, after bastion kills 1 person the team shouldnt let it happen again
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>>336663771
To be fair. His best counters don't counter him nearly as hard as some other character's counters. Like Winston and Reaper. If the enemy team has a good Reaper you might as well switch off of Winston. Or Symmetra and Pharah, say goodbye to everyone and everything you love because those turrets and teleporter are fucking trash to Pharah.
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>new people stat playing
>complaints about bastion and torb skyrocket

like clockwork
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>>336663823
no, your point is irrelevant

the vast majority of positions, every position that matters, can see every part of the map you could be in

snipers being the only ones who can hit it without reprisals, in highly specific position do not correct its range
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>>336663260
Save your ults. Play with friends. Current "meta" is at:
>Antagonize and feel out enemy team for 80% of match.
>Use bulk of time to build your ults and get free kills.
>Crunch time hits, you go balls out and push their shit in. Pop ults that synergize with other teammate's ults. Take the enemy node at the last second and teach them the meaning of cucked.
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where is the fucking symmetra porn. widowmaker and ice bitch are so bland.
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>>336663878
>those turrets and teleporter are fucking trash to Pharah.

????????

how does the teleporter affect her specifically? and why is it that the only character in this game who can fly is the one most affected by the short range turrets?
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>>336663860
>>336663876
how the hell do you kill him once your aware without dying faglords?
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What's your K/D and W/L anons? Mine' sitting around 1.5 and 1.0 respectively. Feels bad, I'm not that good.
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>>336663969
Other way around. Pharah trashes Symmetra.
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>>336663976
>how the hell do you kill him once your aware without dying faglords?

Junkrat, Genji, Tracer, Hanzo, Widowmaker, Pharah
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>>336663932
thats not even my entire point you got so caught up in only a part of my post

a part that was still fucking right in the end
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>>336663453
>>336663543
Bastion was considered trash tier by all comp players during the whole beta. To fix that they gave him 360 degree turning and some more HP/amour (though a little too much to start with), but so people in pubs didn't just get shit on because they're retarded and "hurr durr how do i kill stationary target" they put a weakspot on his back. He's fine where he is. Play with a friend who likes Reinhardt and stick him in front of you at chokes.
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>>336663976
poke out from cover and shoot him with a sniper or explosives
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>>336664030
your original answer was fucking stupid without the correction, because it ignored the setup of 3 torbs and 3 bastions, by answering with a useless nebulous answer sidestepping the question
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>>336660835
you considering d.va to be useless just shows how fucking retarded you are, countering a majority of the ultimates in the game is not useless in the slightest
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>>336664054
I wonder if you Bastion apologists will admit you were wrong once they nerf him.
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>>336664079
>lol be more aware scrub and don't present a target
>lol present target
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>>336664165
>peeking is presenting a target

Christ, you can always tell who the shitters that have never played an FPS are
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>>336663965
symmetra is worst girl

last strawpoll had her being beaten by fucking Zarya
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>>336664128

They won't nerf him because he's not overpowered. They might rework him because he's trash tier at higher skill levels, but shits on scrubs
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>>336664206
How can you be this dense?

every fucking replay has people dying to him in moments, even when they are "just peeking" to shoot at him, or lob explosives

seriously fucking kill yourself
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>>336664279
Are they like 5 feet away from him or something? He does decent damage, but not that much.
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>>336663820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl3H4vMqYNo
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>>336664345
Not sure if retarded or trolling.
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>>336664217
>last strawpoll had her being beaten by fucking Zarya

p-pls fix that guys


http://www.strawpoll.me/10133241/
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>>336664345
Nigger he melts full health characters who are passing an opening 250 feet away, who don't even present a target long enough to shoot him
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>>336664279
>How can you be this dense?

You're the one that's dense
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Her TP ought to have more than 6 uses. I initially thought it stayed up till the other team found and destroyed it, but after realising otherwise I just walk to the action and leave what little uses are available for my teammates.
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>>336664448
are you seriously claiming that 70% of all games your in don't have a Bastion, and that he doesn't get the replay of the game almost every time, and he doesn't melt entire teams?

hes basically forcing every team to have Reinheart
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>>336659663
Just don't waste your time playing this shit.
Play Tf2 instead.
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>>336664535
she should have her TP at the fucking setup

as an ult its a goddamn waste, because by the time it can be placed its useless
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>>336664549
>are you seriously claiming that 70% of all games your in don't have a Bastion, and that he doesn't get the replay of the game almost every time, and he doesn't melt entire teams?

Yes, I am seriously claiming that

In low-level games, sure, he's everywhere

In closed beta I was level 90, and I barely ever saw him
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>>336664590
>Play Tf2 instead.
no
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>>336661861
This
She's very stupid, an assload of utility with her wall and ult, and then her gun on top which murders squishy characters, disables fat ones for your team to eat up, and can snipe niggas all across the map
She's bonkers
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>>336664549
>are you seriously claiming that 70% of all games your in don't have a Bastion, and that he doesn't get the replay of the game almost every time, and he doesn't melt entire teams?
Wow what a fag
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>>336664590

>wasting time on TF2 instead of Quake
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>some faggot plays bastion on other team
>my team calls him out
>bastion is balanced!
>my whole team goes bastion next round
>they can't touch first point
N E R F
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>>336664758
this
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>>336659663
Either your team carried you, or you're actually good with Symmetra. Kind of hard to play games with her. Her support is weak save for the teleporter.

>>336664721
> Play Hanzo
> Spot bastion.
> Corner peak from a wall and headshot him to death.
> Proceed to kill entire enemy team on the point.
> Play of the game cuts off the part where I ended with a dragon ult netting another kill or two.
Still lost, but damn that was nice.
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>>336664054
As a Reinhardt main, one Bastion eats through my entire shield in roughly 2 seconds, and then me in another second. It's hardly a compromise.
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>>336664758
>another match
>we all go tjorbon because shits and gigs
>enemy team bitches that it's not fair, enjoy your cheat win losers!
This game is very balanced
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>>336664897
>open beta shitters who have played for a day think they know everything
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>>336664715
you can't really snipe across the map with her ice pick. Her damage drops off drastically around 50~ meters

Everything below 50 meters is bonkers though, yeah.
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>>336664879
>As a Reinhardt main,
>main
Here's the problem
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>>336661140
You can hear it coming from far away
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>>336664845
>Her support is weak save for the teleporter.
nigger what?

her teleporter is practically useless
most maps don't benifit from it at all,
its restricted to the ult,
it breaks after a few uses
the opponents will find it immediately because the characters declare its existence when its in range regardless if the player actually sees it themselves, sending everyone to look for it
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>>336664973
Please stop, you're embarrassing yourself
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>>336664942
Kinda unrelated, but is there an info page for shit like that? Damage of weapons, dropoffs, all the info
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>>336664758
the other team was retarded and probably didn't change out their "mains" to play characters that obliterate bastion because of his major weakness: being flanked

You can shit all over bastions for free, he is only good when he has more mobile characters protecting him, but of course MOBA tier shitters wouldn't know that, and thats who play this game
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>>336664973
>
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>>336664973
>her teleporter is practically useless
You wot
Getting your dead teammates back in the fight instantly is insanely good
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>>336659663
>playing a poo in loo character
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>>336665045
I detest how he can aim right above him when in turret for though
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>>336665041
The Overwatch general has a big spreadsheet
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>>336665092
sure, if the teleporter lasted or existed, which it does neither
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> Bastion is balanced
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>>336665041
If you go in the training area with the bots you can sorta mess around and see the ranges of your weapons and shit.

I'm sure there's a wiki somewhere showing all the stats on paper

I'm currently testing everyone to see who has and who doesn't have damage dropoff points

here's the one i did with mei

http://plays.tv/video/572c2d0e13223e915f/overwatch-mei-damage-dropoff-test?from=user

Her ice pick does pretty much the same amount of damage around 50~ meters, but tapers off drastically if you go further than that
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>>336665156
Then you're putting it in shitty spots, or aren't maintaining its presence with turrets.
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>>336665045
>being flanked
he turns at the same rate when in turret mode
flanking only works when the bastion forgets to look around

people say the same shit about heavy in tf2 but he can still turn just as fucking fast when reved

flanking does shit to bastion
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>>336665197
>the reinheart for his sheild

oh jesus
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>playing D.va
>detonate the mech in a tight corridor
>get 5 kills

was my first game playing as her, will probably never do as well again.
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>mfw I play Junkrat
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>>336665214
don't get me started on the turrets

if you don't baby sit them yourself then they get popped in single hits, and your stored turret rate effectively means if you lose any you're fucked for the rest of the game

if you have to baby sit turrets that losing any means you lose the game, you might as well play another character like Bastion
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Bastion is the one who is overpowered

>turns into a turret
>the barrel doesn't even need to spin for a while it just starts shooting instantly at like 10,000 RPM
>it kills you in like 4 hits

It's so fucking broken
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>>336665197
A team full of Mei is also fucking op

Also
>That fucking frenchfag replying in the team chat
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>>336665396
It can burst through a Roadhogs 600 hp in about a second
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Shitmetra is a waste of a team slot. You know what's better than a teleporter? Stopping your team from dying in the first place. All of her turrets can be killed super easily (usually by accident). Her gun does barely any damage and the projectile can be dodged by pressing a strafe key once. Know another thing that's better than 25 shields? How about a hero that can heal? Her ult charges super slow even if you're doing constant damage and her ult doesn't charge when you have a teleporter up.

I think I'm being baited.
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>>336665415
>A team full of Mei is also fucking op
if your fighting retards or melee mains

but the sustain and ice walls would be more irritating than actually problems stopping you from capturing
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>>336665392
oh yeah, don't get me wrong I'm not saying she's good. Just that her teleporter has its merits. Otherwise yes other supports do the job better. If you wanted to get your guys to the battle, play Lucio.
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>>336665396

Sounds fucking op for the defending team.
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>>336665392

You're just an awful Symmetra player

refer to >>336663026 and stop being a retard and putting them in shitty spots
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>>336665396
>I'm a huge loving horsecock, smegmaeater faggot
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>>336665415
>A team full of Mei is also fucking op
Does freeze stack? Can you instafreeze enemies with directed fire?
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>>336665538
nigger how the hell did you get 6 turrets without just standing around useless?

oh and When i do that single explosives popp them all

great advice for shitmetra, shitlord
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>>336663026
>Enemy falls for it once
>Left clicks
>All turrets dead
>Or just walk around it
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>>336665451
just git gud
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>people ITT are actually shitting on Tracer

Tracer can be OP as fuck if you know how to play her.
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>>336665595
>Enemy falls for it once

Oh so just like Bastion then
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>>336665154
Thanks m8
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>>336665617
nice quotation

who the fuck shited on tracer dipshit?
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>>336665485
> Not doing 6 Mei vs 6 Mei freeze tag.
Shit was fun until someone spoiled it by picking bastion.

>>336665526
Kind of, it's really annoying, but guys like Hanzo, Junkrat, Widowmaker, Rein, and Genji could easily punish them.
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>>336663065
He's not meant to do the role of Reinhart or Zarya, he's a disruptive fucker, not a front line "Get behind me guys I'll take the damage for you" tank. He's meant to jump into the enemy rear line as his team moves in, and while the whole enemy team is watching you shake your monkey ass around killing the healer your team should be killing the enemy.

In fact he works amazingly in conjunction with the other hard tanks if you pounce in just a bit later so that you can kill a few more before the enemy team starts to focus you or you can just focus on making the sniper's day a nightmare.

Winston is only shit if you're an idiot or your team is full of idiots. Admittedly the latter is quite common but if that's the case just pick off their sides and rear.
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>>336662970
Nah. Turrets deny alternative entry points at best. At worst they don't do shit, since they can only kill absolute baddies. Which is quite amazing, since the game is filled with retards and even they know how to handle the turrets. She's completely useless when it comes to holding a point, even with an ult, since you still need a healing support. Lucio + someone actually useful is a much better choice, than having symmetra that can't do shit when her ult is down. On "push a cart" maps she's even more useless since she can't put proper turrets on open spaces without them being instantly destroyed, and she's barely a mediocre fighter alone. Her support power is absolute dogshit, even Zarya does a better job than her. Her ult also loses potential, since all she can do is camp in some shady alleyways instead of actually denying the cart movement.
She herself is not the problem. The problem comes from the fact that there are so many picks that do most of the stuff much better.
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>>336664879
I know that pain my dude
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>>336665396
>Doesn't know how to adapt to take out a turret nest

You deserve to not advance. A Junkrat or Pharah can fuck him us easy, even a Roadhog can hook him and mess up his day. Or just Reinhardt and block his bullets and hope your teammates can shoot him in time.
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>>336665618
Bastion can move, oh and he still kills faster than 6 sym turrets combined
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>>336665663
REEEEEEEEE SHUT THE FUCK UP AND APOLOGIZE TO HER
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>defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat


it's like I'm really playing league of legends

i cannot win a single fucking game, i'm only level 8 and get matched against level 40 pre-mades who win in literally two minutes EVERY SINGLE TIME
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>>336659663
I just wish Symmetra could delay her charged shot, having it auto-fire at full charge is so fucking shit
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>>336665617
Yeah a properly played one is insane, she's impossible to kill and just zips around harrassing your lighties and showing mines up your collective asses
>tfw finally hitting a hook on her squishy ass
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So I wanted to play this for fun but you die so fast you can't have any fun?
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>>336660195
Why did they make her ass so distracting?
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>>336662840
>playing Reinhardt
>charge an enemy Reinhardt off the cliff
>absolute first thing he does upon getting back to the control point
>charges me off the cliff

I live for these moments.
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>>336665868
Gotta be sneaky breeky and have a healer
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What race is widowmaker?
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>>336665678
Also I forgot to mention that she's even more useless on assault for obvious reasons, like being unable to use turrets unless you somehow magically happen to be behind the enemy lines. And even then it's most likely wouldn't work, since main path to the objective usually the fastest one, so defenders will most likely will use it (can't turret there either). She's also bad on koth because of the map sizes, since lucio can boost teammates to the objective pretty fast AND can heal in aoe. Her turrets on the point will most likely be destroyed by accidental spam of the enemy team and camping on the alternative routes will most likely work once if at all.

She's a griefer hero. Nothing wrong with that, but in a game of 6 vs 6 where team synergy dominates you don't have the ability to take care of a useless shit as Symmetra.
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>>336663771
mfw Baston gibs himself while I reflect his turret mode with genji
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>>336666109
purple

she fell for the colloidal silver meme
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>it's another press Q to win the game episode
How can anybody like this game?
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>>336659663

You have to degrade yourself to a character that can't shit in toilets though.
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>>336666259
She could totally construct a toilet that destroys her greasy shits with lasers
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>Hollywood gets shit for whitewashing movies
>nobody gives Blizzard shit for whitewashing games
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>>336661146
Wrong again, fagmoqueer.
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>>336666302
She isn't allowed to poo in the loo
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>play psn beta because computer is still pre W7


>Where the fuck is the sprint button - reaper player

mfw
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