Does anyone actually enjoy ganking? just waiting around with your 3 friends not progressing the game to kill phantoms?
Literally every online video game is filled with edgy teenagers who only care about winning, even if they have to gank, even if they use cheat engine
There are no exceptions, online games are shit.
I leave when I get summoned to gank squads. Shit's lame.
>>336659120
Ran into one guy who summoned me then used dried fingers and never summoned anyone else, essentially just letting invaders come fight while we worked through the level. It was actually intense and pretty fun .
>its another "muh invasion is unfair" thread
>>336659120
I did it for some time in Dark Souls 1
Its fun for about 20 minutes, after which it just gets repetitive
I've been invaded without summoning phantoms.Then I it for a dark moon or blue sentinel because I have way of blue equipped
>Beat all the hosts buttbuddies
>Atlf4's just as he's about to die
>>336659120
Yes it's fucking hilarious, it makes you cunts so mad, why wouldn't I?
>>336659120
Yes. It is especially fun on NG++ with giant seeds.
you can still kill the host
>>336662141
Do Blue cucks still get an ear if they kill you right after you kill the host?
>>336659120
Yeah it's pretty fun. With dried finger, me and my friend are in a constant fight against multiple invaders, fun as fuck. We don't really care about fighting 2vs1 either, just deal with it
>>336659410
GIT GUD NOOB
>>336659120
I love PVP and I'll use every dirty trick in the book to ensure that I win on both sides.
>>336659120
I started using dried finger on NG++ to steamroll through areas with 3 phantoms and almost every single time I use it I get invaded instantly
And to be honest it's pretty satisfying ganging up on one person after being the one invading into ganks for 2 playthroughs
Seeing them try to escape and failing to dodge all the attacks from running out of stamina is fun
>>336662141
>purples in that image
>purples ever not being happy for a host dying and a free vertebra or a nice co-op invasion with a red to bring gankers down
>>336662354
no that's diablo 2
>>336659120
B-b-bring it on!
>connection error
>>336664125
>four phantoms with estoc smashing R1 when you come within ten feet
>>336660392
This is really the best reward for pvp. I like to think of it as you beating their ass so bad they have to restart the game.
>>336659120
Does anyone actually enjoy invading? just dropping on someone to prevent him progressing his game to kill hosts?
>>336664204
This is why I switched to Dragonslayer Spear and Halberd
>>336664258
Yeah
I remember playing Dark Souls from late 2011 to early 2012, and the greatest thing ever was to troll a pair of gankers in Anor Londo.
>invade world
>see two faggots standing next to eachother by the stairs
>sprint straight for the beam leading to the agile knife wielding enemies
>they sprint after me with all their might
>run across the ceiling beams, they're forced to slow down to fight knife wielders
>taunt them from the other side
>trigger the lever to move the elevator up
>that feel when you run for the anor londo archers
>team of 3 chases after you
>on the narrow path
>use wrath of the gods
>they all fall
>>336664293
good, then I hope you'll enjoy some quality PVP, kill some people in good situations and have a good success in your endeavour.
Have fun
>>336664204
>puny hits plunk of my great shield
>weapon skill shield charge them to the ground
>rush host to one shot with muh great hammer
>>336659120
>first Concord after 2 hours
Looks like achievements are just going unobtained forever. Holy shit
>>336664415
Got to love fatrolling in heavy armor only to be smacked around by some faggot with a twig/estoc. Why would you ever wear armor,right?
>>336664324
Do you mean going back through the cathedral building rafters? Because you can't get back to the start of Londo that way (I mean to where the first elevator is).
>>336664904
>Because you can't get back to the start of Londo that way
wat
You can get back to the start easily via the elevator.
I've been invading since day one, and I've also been bitching on day one. But I started getting higher level and began to do actual damage.
So when you can kill a phantom in one hit after a successful parry, shit gets easier. 1v3 situations are perfectly manageable, and even with a seed. The only complaint is that you can end up in a 1v4 or 1v5 situations, which is totally bullshit.
So to people complaining, try minmaxing a bit, but only a bit. Get yourself a hornet ring and something to parry, and literally get good.
>>336659120
I accidentaly got introduced to ganking by this guy who summoned me in Boreal Valley, and instead of helping him traverse it waited for red phantom so we could gang up on them.
To be honest it was fun hiding and catching them by surprise and all that, but I usually prefer a fair combat, which is a rarity nowdays in this series anyway.
>invade into a ganksquad
>run to enemies to wait for backup invaders
>host pops a giant seed
>BC out
>invade
>host and phantom run back to starting area
>"summoning another phantom"
>BC out
>invade
>giant seed icon
>"Dark Spirit NiggerK***ht has died"
>BC out
>invade
>host runs back to starting area
>"Unable to summon phantom"
>"A connection error occurred. Returning to your world."
It baffles me how unbelievably chicken shit some people can be
I've beaten the grand majority of my invaders while solo simply by virtue of having more estus. It's kinda stupid just how favored hosts are now. Not to mention killing invaders restores estus too.
Invading is just a goddamn chore now
>>336665476
>fair combat
Phantoms are at a disadvantage. Their stats are lowered and they have less estus. Even in a 1v1 it's not a fair fight for them. They either fight a disadvantaged battle or play opportunist and lure you through enemies or attack you when you're fighting something else.
Only semi related but how the fuck do you deal with havel's shield? Seems like you just can't get past it, goddamn it's retarded
>>336665629
>It baffles me how unbelievably chicken shit some people can be
>says this while black crystaling out constantly
you sound like the chicken shit here anon
>>336665168
>just parry!
Literally the most boring way to win, feels much better to actually kill off the phantoms and leave the host all alone crying.
If the answer to gank squads are parrying, then it's a shit excuse and invading remains trash. Fight clubs is the only fun pvp in this game.
>>336665958
you equip one yourself and play the patience game for 2 hours until the host disconnects
also try quickswapping to a shotel and doing the reach around shit, I usually catch shitters with it
also poison throwing knives etc
>hosting "fight clubs"
>sometimes some idiotic mad spirit will invade
>tries to attack me and gets gang raped by 4 red phantoms
It's good being a host.
>>336659120
gank squading with NPCs is fun, but doing it with other players is scum tier.
>tfw managed to kill all four
i have yet to meet a good player participating in a gank squad. one came close, but i lost whatever respect that motherfucker had gained after the host managed to summon him back after i killed him once (with the host standing on a ledge whiffing arrows at me the whole time)
So i know you guys bitch about getting ganked all the time, but at least some of the online works. DS2 is still a buggy shithole, that works half the time.
>>336660290
>get regularly summoned for darkmoon every 5-10 minutes(was less than 1 minute downtime between summons on launch week)
>soon as I load in either the host is dead or the invader is already dead and I get no reward like 80% of the time
>the other 20% I get summoned to a gank squad
>rarely get summoned to a lone host and get to hunt the invader
I miss being ignored by the enemies as a blue, it's what made being a sentinel good in 2, just hunting down the red while the host does his thing. now I'm just a glorfied white phantom.
>>336665086
No I mean you can't get back to the bridge/elevator from going back through the cathedral because pic related
>>336666936
you do know that you can invade from outside the cathedral, right? you're also aware of the giant as fuck doors that you can open at the front of the cathedral and the giant blacksmith's little area too?
>>336665761
Phantoms shouldn't have estus at all
>>336666729
>rarely get summoned to a lone host and get to hunt the invader
That's because the game prioritizes invasions on people who already summoned phantoms
>>336666148
Fight Clubs are fucking awful. Whenever i invade one i wait for them to start fighting and then i fuck up the host.
Fuck that gay shit.
>>336659120
>not progressing the game to kill phantoms?
Fuck yes, I had over 100 hours when I finished the game because I was having so much fun in catacombs just murdering people in gank squads
>>336667053
Yea but the OP of this chain talks of running across the rafters and then raising the elevator and I can't see how that works. If they started at the start of Londo, before dropping off that beam in my pic, he couldn't have raised the elevator since it would already be raised (and if lowered would be pointless anyway since it could be called back up). If they started at the grand hall, the main building, not the one with the rafters, it is impossible to go back through the cathedral (with the rafters) then raise the elevator because of my pic. Get me?
Raising the elevator is only an inconvenience if the player is stuck on on the first side of the bridge, where tye gargoyle is.
I like to bring in a friend to run through with dried fingers. I get bluebros in but I usually just spectate their fights.
Gets pretty hectic when the watchdogs come in at Faron.
>>336667814
you can get into the rafters the same way you get out, or you can run across the elevator to the broken window entrance with that drop down.
People who invade are there for the sole intent to ruin the other players progress for their own self gain.
So when I'm with my friends waiting for you degenerates you bet your ass I take pleasure in beating the shit out of you.
Cry more bitch nigga
>>336665629
You know BCing in this game as a phantom will go towards locking you out of regular play
>>336668003
Yes, I know that. OP talks about running across the rafters one way, then raising the elevator on the other side.
A: They began at the main hall, ran back through the rafter building, but then he couldn't possibly have raised the elevator because of the one-way drop
B: They started near the very first elevator, ran through the rafter building, but then couldn't raise any elevator, because it would already be raised, and if lowered, would not inconvenience thr host/phantom in anyway because it can just be called up again (why include the raising elevator point if it means nothing?).
I really can't put this any clearer.
>>336667675
you're just scared of getting wrecked in front of an audience, admit it
>Put my sign down in kiln because I enjoy the boss
>Someone summons me and just waits around with another white phantom
>Someone invades and me and the other white bro just sit there while the host and invader fight
At least there are some decent people in this community.
>>336668271
And now I realise the elevator would be lowered in the first place, so he would actually raise the elevator. Still, doesn't mean much at that point because the host/phantom had already dropped down. There was only one way to go, and in the end they would raise it themselves. Nothing acomplished.
>>336666936
>>336668271
Look nigger, here's how it works:
>drop down onto the raising beam
>walk up it, then drop down onto the ledge
>enter the cathedral
>climb the ladder
>cross the rafters, walking through the ninja enemies as an invader
>climb down the ladder, now outside
>outside, the big rotating elevator platform may or may not be there. that elevator bridges the big gap linking start area to the castle
>if it's not there, pull the lever, which RAISES the elevator
>once on the elevator, push the circular lever in the middle to go down one level
>holy shit, you're back at the start. the circle has been made
>>336668538
If they don't follow you, and you raise the elevator, they're stuck at the start, and are FORCED to cross the rafters area. This is where the fun begins.
>>336659120
I like having 3v3s
>>336663894
>tfw I've killed invaders by pretending to be friends then turning on them the moment the opportunity presents itself
Grapists that don't make everyone worried about being a target don't deserve to be purple
>>336668621
>they're forced to slow down to fight knife wielders
Yeah, they followed though.
>>336668721
When you're sprinting across thin beams with an invader in front of you, it's not always easy.
>what is a dragonslayer bow
>>336659120
but ganking is a good way to farm hatemail
>>336668030
Why would you be embered for anything but a boss fight? Quit being a bitch because you can't handle a 1v1 invasion
>>336668030
I like to invade and kill other invaders though. Being purple is fun.
>>336668804
Yeah it is a great place to fuck people over. I was mostly sperging out at the story's poster acting smug about raising the elevator while not capitalising on the opponents position; unless of course they did afterwards.
Is the Darkmoon Blades broken or something? Haven't been summoned once, used to get at least one or two watchdog summons per session.
>>336668968
npc invasions, more health
>trying to co-op with friends
>get invaded every 3 seconds
>invader always leaves or hides behind enemies
invasions are prioritized with to games with more people in them. If you want to pvp just use the red sign soap stone.
>>336669340
I'll give you the npc invaders but normal trash shouldn't be that hard that you need the extra health
>>336659410
You're painting with too broad a brush.
I've met several people through fightan who know you can play well AND fuck around at the same time. Of course you'll have the occasional tryhard teenager, but they're normally shit so they're easy to destroy.
>>336667675
Can't "fuck up" this host. Whenever I host one I wear heavy armor, dragonscale ring + hp rings, and have Tears of Denial on. It's funny seeing invaders try to screw up the fight club and then get ganked.
>>336659460
This is what everyone should do. Enough people do it and it won't be a thing anymore for people to try since they know they won't get anyone.
>>336664747
>not lvling fucking vit
especially when the requirements for fastrolling are literally anything under 70%.
Damage absorption isnt bad, and extra hyperarmor on r1s comes in handy for any ultra weapon.
>>336665168
Or I'll just kill them all in one hit of my weapon art.
Easy peasy.
>>336669340
play offline
>>336664434
I'm in NG++ now helping out Blues in Undead Settlement if you want to come around. Level 150 though
>>336659120
Yes. But I don't have any friends. Nobody likes me.
>>336665168
>Xenoverse hitboxes
>>336670305
>Can't "fuck up" this host.
No but I can kill one of the fighters when they are low on health.
>>336659120
>Does anyone actually enjoy ganking? just waiting around with your 3 friends not progressing the game to kill phantoms?
How is this fun?
>haha we won again because the person invading had no chance of winning
I bet you use hacks as well.
>>336671349
It's fun because of posts like these.
it's a delayed investment. You do it and then wait, then you feed on the anal devastation.
>>336671591
>le making people mad on le internet
Anon, stop being 12 years old.
>>336671679
maybe you should stop getting mad at vidya gaems
>>336659410
this is bullshit, when a friend of mine started playing dark souls she was invaded by tons of dragonbros who dropped items and were really helpful.
>>336671823
People don't get mad when you do things like this anon, everyone just thinks you are a looser.
You seem to enjoy making your self look like an idiot so carry on.
INB4 u mad.
>>336671959
>INB4 u mad.
You can try to deny it, but your post is seething with hatred.
>>336672056
>but your post is seething with hatred.
Yes anon I am so mad, oh my god I am mad.
>get summoned for 1v1 outside Pontiff.
>as the guy starts to lose, a phantom pops out of nowhere are falling bolts me
What's even the point?
What SL are people remaining at for PvP? I'm at 120 and I just get no summons for Aldrich Faithful anymore.
>>336665629
>invade
>pull some meneuvers and get his phantom killed
>he b lines it back to summon another
>repeat until you run out of estus and/or get double teamed in a corner
Even backstab fishoffs are more fun than this faggotry
>>336671912
And all got from """dragonbros""" when I started playing DaS (early 2012) was fiery breath.
Dark Souls has the edgiest, most try hard community I've ever seen in an online game.
Honestly, it's not the amount of phantoms that's even the problem. I can clear most dumbasses with anything with hyperarmor, since the moment most players in a swarm of faggots see an enemy they just run in smashing R1, their finger shaking over the gesture menu in anticipation of violently sucking cocks as a reward.
It's the fucking estus that's the problem. Especially early game, when no one is dealing any damage to anyone. You can spend your whole stamina bar just to clear 50% of someone's health, and they press a button and no matter where they are, half a second later all that progress goes away. You have to play this game of getting people down to about 35% health - something they won't panic about, and then try to just face fuck one of them and pray you can clear all that health. It's decidedly not fun at all.
Winning 3v1's has me addicted to pvp. Most of them are pretty reckless and I can only imagine the immense shame of losing to a single enemy.
>>336667675
Yeah, we all remember you. You "fuck up the host" with two swings and then get the shit kicked out of you. Then get angry and go back to normal invasions and get the shit kicked out of you by gank squads. You sure showed them, little boy.
>summon down at bonfire for Wolnir co-op
>get summoned
>host being attacked by red
>gank him to save the host
>as soon as red is down host just black crystals me
Never again, from now on if I get summoned whilst a red is in, I'm just watching.
>on the off chance that I do invade somebody alone I actually have fun even when I get demolished
>phantom babies going HURR U LE MAD NO GOOD INVADER XD
Don't you fags have host dick to suck?
>>336673131
These fags make me sick
>>336672857
before das2 invasions were seen as a playfully dickish thing to do, especially in des
most people made invasion builds specifically to fuck with people but not necessarily try to win, forest and township were for honorable duels
das2 fricked up the online community with bad multiplayer mechanics while introducing a bunch of new people who didn't understand the culture
inb4
>muh culture
>it was always this way
>das2
>bad
etc
>>336673280
No healing for phantoms outside of miracles was the best thing because it meant when you committed to a fight you committed to a fight, if you wanted to heal you would have to break off the entire fight, slow estus animations and slow healing in general meant that if you stayed aggressive to host would never really have a chance to heal either.
>>336659120
Well, no it's not fun.
But back in the days of DaS I was masquerading as a silver knight and my friend was disguised as a vase (it was in a room with a silver knight armor I think, we even left a second knight alive to not cause any suspicion), we waited for the blue Internet-police invaders, while leaving a trail of indictments for them.
We had pretty great fun actually.
>>336664125
>You praised the wrong celestial body, knave.
It's fun watching gankers set up ambushes while standing close by with the obscuring ring.
3v1s are easy to outplay if you are patient. The problem is that running in to brawl against all 3 of them mindlessly is the mentality most invaders come into the host's world with. The only time it's hard to do anything is when they are already at the boss gate and one has to either run in to stall them or won't get a shot at them at all.
My autistic roommate does it all the time.
He also gets his friends into the game to just carry them through it, he laughs hysterically when they moshpit r1 an invader, throws his controller when he dies, while he fights shit he shakes around like those people who turn their controllers when they play a racing game.
He also talks non stop about his head cannon lore shit, like how he things Nameless King is Ornsteins dad.
>>336674506
If I invade and see host and his 3 buttbuddies run to the bonfire and huddle up there waiting for me, I usually crystal out because sitting there 15 minutes, waiting for them to move is not really fun.
>>336674992
Taunting them, shooting them with a bow and decorating the place with prism stones usually brings them out.
>>336674992
For me it feels very rewarding to sit in wait and kill them, despite the odds being stacked against me. Try poking them with bows (particularly greatbows) - it lures them out pretty fast.
Actually considered a glass-cannon sorcery build just to snipe them while they sit at the bonfire but I presume the overall awfulness of sorcery ruins the chance at killing them in any other situation.
The PvP might be skewed toward gank squards, but having invasions prioritize multiple people can lead to some great moments.
>invade near anor londo as a purpal
>see a faithful, the host and a goldbro duking it out near the silver knight archers
>the faithful is holding his own despite being outnumbered
>gotta kill 2 phantoms or the host, helping faithful is the easier option
>faithful sees me
>drops everything and legs it straight at me
>do a little wave indicating friendliness
>he attacks me
>kick him off the edge after a brief scuffle and die myself
But why tho? I don't understand the irrational hatred of purples. If I'm invading, I'll probably be on the invading side, you idiots
>>336669150
We need more like you. Everytime I summon a purple he just tries to gank me with the red.So my friend has to uncloak and stab him
>>336671243
And then immediately get fucked by the train of remaining phantoms and host for being a little bitch.
By all means, though, keep doing it. Most fight club hosts know by know to wear the anti-backstab ring. All you're doing by "fucking up a fight club" is giving the spectators something fun to do until you get floored and they go back to dueling..
>>336659460
your a pussy
seriously git gud or stall until another friendly phantom is summoned in
or change build to something that can actually deal with ganks like heavy aoe spell especially in tight areas like dmeon ruins in OP pic
i fucking love getting summoned into ganks in demon ruins as a pyro, i know they are fucking stressing out on VOIP as i bait then destroy them
I just want that warmth pyromancy...it's the only one I'm missing ; _ ;
>>336677872
I'm pretty sure there can only be 6 people in a world if the host dry fingers.
So If you invade and the host has 2 buddies, you probably aren't getting anymore.
>>336672954
fucking this
its so fun trying to out play mulitple people, im not sure deluded to claim i win every situation, but i have gotten used to and built my build around dealing with 1v2 or 1v3 and i know that they feel hard shame when they lose
>>336662141
saved
>>336677008
We don't know that, that's the whole Grape gimmick.
You are nobodies friend. Nobody will ever fully trust you.
Most ganksquads are made up of retards so you can just bait them into mobs and then fuck them up, or pick them off one by one, literally get good
>use the seed
>invader leaves after being attacked by the NPCs
why even invade if youre just gonna run away at the first sign of trouble?
I liked doing it in the forest in ds1. Felt a little bit more fair too.
>>336664125
>spend almost 30 minutes slowly whittling down a host with 3 phantoms in a cancerous locale with no additional help coming in
>The host d/c's after he survives with a magic pixel
I fucking hate being in Watchdogs. I wanna go back to grapelords
Is there enough time after a parry to switch to flame and cast sacred flame? I imagine it'd make people ultra butthurt if you pulled that off
>>336677872
>You're a pussy for not wanting to engage in a 3v1 and should just stand around and hide until MAYBE another Red Phantom comes in
Fucking kill yourself you moron.
>>336678754
>implying this will be over after Watchdogs
I invade in most areas, and host disconnects are still fairly common.
>>336678608
>seeded world
>invader still tries to bait us into enemies
>gets slammed by a group of monsters
Watching them panic is one of the best feelings in the game desu
>>336678608
>Host uses seed
>Wake up all the skeletons and break the bridge
>Watch as the ganksquad get fucked by 50 skeletons
>>336678608
If you're going to summon Phantoms to play the game for you, why Ember?
>>336679303
nah its just that the swamp is a horrible place to invade and the hosts there are even worse
if its not ganksquads its douchebags..
I invaded the same dude three times in a row yesterday who popped a seed and ran around with his head cut off aggroing every enemy in the area the second he got 2+ invaders.He won every time because I'm bad at this game and just want covenant rewards without farming for 10 years
>>336659120
Heh, this is what is considered ganking? It's weird, you invade someone, wanting to kill them, and get angry because they're doing jolly coop? Get fucked.
>>336672298
In game invasions is like 60-80 and weapon 8+ I think. The weapon is so you can be matched with the most amount of upgrade levels.
And it's the average level of the late/mid game areas with the souls available.
120 is simply the fightclub and late NG+< meta.
Most builds are pretty well rounded by 80 latest, but and magic build with real investmentie int/faith 50/50makes it so you're squishy as fuck usually.
Why does FROM hate PVP so much?
>>336659120
>im a le invador an want to rape teh host!
>but le wait! wut.. he got freinds :-(
>>336680197
Because pvp has and always been awful?
The whole point of invasions is for one player to be a total dick to another.
But now the hosts have such an advantage that invasions are more like slamming your head against a wall more than douchebag enabling.
>>336678297
>>336672954
I recently racked up 30 tounges and afterwards 30 ears on a low level character in the settlement.
Getting the tounges was infinitely more fun, even though my success rate was lower. As a bluebro you are basically guaranteed the numbers advantage and can just swarm the host.
As a red/gold/purple invader it's the exact opposite and even noobs can be somewhat challanging 1v2 or 1v3.
Those moments where you fuck up obviously organized co-op play because their names match a theme are amazing and even though they likely were scrubs anyway the rush you feel winning against the number advantage is amazing.
Though I still prefer an actual interesting and challanging duel to that, where it's more a pattern reading and misleading competition, but invasions can be really fun too.
>>336680196
>Most builds are pretty well rounded by 80 latest
No they fucking aren't. People really need to stop pushing this fucking Lvl 80 meta horseshit, magic builds are completely and utterly fucked. Meanwhile melee weapons don't need to invest anywhere near the stats, and do more damage.
Anyone who thinks Lvl 80 is a good meta is probably a straight sword using faggot who's never actually tried to make a Sorcery/Miracle/Pyro character. I have a Quality, a Strength, a Pyromancer, and a Miracle user. If you think 80 is an okay level you need to stop talking.
>leave red sign for duel
>he's a pyromancer
>entire match is just him constantly walking backwards while throwing stuff at you
Even if they're easy to beat most of the time it's still incredibly annoying and usually time consuming for no reason
>>336680715
Spells are a fucking joke in PvP due to spell start up and how fucking broken rolling has always been in the Souls games.
>>336680025
we all knew this community was the fucking worst
>complain when the game isn't going your way (everyone does it, hosts and invaders)
>find any way to make it so that you didn't lose of your own volition, but because something was unfair
Shits been going on since DS1
>>336679878
I still don't get why the poison swamp, the actual forest and even the fucking stray demon area are all the playing field for that covenant.
every second to third invasion it's such a hassle to even find the host because he has fucked off down to the poison swamp somewhwere. God forbid he actually tries to hide and use chameleon/white birch branches.
Jesus, guys. I think I know why there are so many people bitching about current invasion system.
Every single one of them is a PCuck who just sat there and played DaS2 for a year and a half.
It only makes sense that people who are used to something as fucking idiotic as rat covenant would feel entitled for advantage when it comes to ruining someone else's experience.
>>336680921
I miss gravelording other people's worlds.
>>336680921
>implying being invaded isn't part of the experience
Only difference is I fight invaders and don't hide behind Phantoms like a bitch.
>>336681095
>gravelords
>trulythesepeopleareworsethanhitler.jpg
>idiot with dragonslayer axe and caestus
>run up to him
>he instantly parries and eats a halfway charged R2
>this happens 3-4 times until he dies
Hornet ring faggots are the worst, learn how to actually fight lmao
>>336677008
Purples have it bad there from my experience. One time I got ganged up by the host, his sunbro, a faithful, and a red. Its like the second I came in, they all dropped what they were doing and bumrushed me.
>>336669294
literal autism
>>336681271
Purple niggers are hard to trust, I've been backstabbed by one when I was trying to fight a 3v1. Then I got raped.
>invade in demon ruins
>it's a 3 man ganksquad, as per the norm
>their dicks are hard and they're ready to kill, chase me as soon as they see me
>lead them on a merry chase through the catacombs, they keep almost getting me but those dodge roll i-frames man
>lead them into the room full of basilisks
>have a fun little smog party
>I'm wearing a cursebite ring
>they aren't
>DUTY FULFILLED
So satisfying man
>all the mad reds in this thread
Get gangbanged invader scum.
I like going up against gank squads because it's all the more humiliating when they lose. I don't get mad if they sit their spamming their gay little emotes when I lose. They know damn well that they have accomplished nothing of note and I feel no shame in losing when the odds are stacked against.
>>336681505
Why don't you ever want to get more intimate with reds? Dumb slut
>>336659657
I ran into a guy that did that and had the most fun I've ever had in a Souls game. Just he & I, 2v2ing invaders. Luckily he was good like myself. Now I do nothing but that in every area of the game. Whenever I start a fresh character I'll do the same thing for maximum fun
>invade, host and one sunbro
>host sits down and sunbro bows
>that's cool
>proceed to spank some golden ass
>sunbro is one attack away from being banished
>host gets up and attacks me, while sunbro heals
what the fuck, if you start some honor duel shenaneigans then at least go through with it.
>>336681507
>half the defenders die, still do the welcome gesture when they win
It's so simple but it burns me up anyway. Taunting when they win easily is preferrable to taunting when they only just won
>>336681343
I've only had one do that.The rest of them time I've had no trouble working with them to kill a host.
>>336681505
I'm not a mad red, just a grape that got raped.
>>336681757
*point downwards*
>>336681754
>Expecting honour when you invaded them
Is dis nigga serious?
>>336662141
Holy Christ that edit is absolutely perfect.
>>336681890
I never get mad about it, it's like a "and stay the fuck out" gesture to invaders. The only bad ones are the "lel I'm so gud XD" gestures.
Any game that has multiplayer will have people like that anon. Accept it and move on.
>>336681754
>get tricked and BTFO
>go on /v/ to cry
This is exactly the kind of shit I do to invaders
>invade a fellow
>run up to him, drink all my estus until the empty animation plays
>he does the same
>>336681754
Never expect an honorable duel. If they bow then split their heads open.
>>336681754
>muh honour
reddit pls
>>336681227
git gud
>>336681938
I didn't expect anything, THEY started to duel me and I accepted that. But then they got cold feet when the phantom started to loose and ganged up on me. Didn't help them and only made them look stupid.
>>336681978
>absolutely perfect
>the majority of the people are Blues when Blues constantly complain about not getting summoned
Nah, it would be better if the majority were Gold / White phantoms.
>>336680908
>invaded in swamp
>curl up gesture in deep swamp
>>336682114
You were the one who played along, you were the fool here. When you saw the host sitting down you shoulda jumped him when you had the chance.
>>336682091
>see presumably unaware host
>go for the weakest attack
He deserved that parry
>>336682215
>invaded in swamp in NG+
>equip obscuring ring
>pop a seed
>lie down gesture under lily pads
>accumalate souls from invaders getting murdered by crabs
>>336659120
To answer your question, let me ask this... Do you enjoy just sitting around invading others games, just to impede their progress?
I mean honestly, do you? I always say there is some unspoken balance in the world. This is those who fucking hate invaders for what they do just getting back. That and trolls. If you actually needed an answer.
>>336682364
this post triggered me, please delete it
>Summon two mound makers
>They are both wearing the rings to make them look like friendly phantoms
>They try to act nice and useful but I know where this shit is going
>Run up and hit them real fast to let them know I won't be fooled
>They return home to their own worlds
Mound makers are for faggots if you are a purple kill yourself you cancerous scum. At least reds make their intentions clear they don't hide behind some wild card bullshit and leave when things don't go there way.
>>336682114
I've found is just don't even bother "dueling" in invasions because hosts will break that shit quick once they start losing.
>Invade in Dragon Barrocks
>Host is being attacked by mobs
>Just stand on the side and let host kill the mobs
>He throws down a "Thank You" carving
>Start dueling
>Get him with the Gundyr combo
>We were fighting by the bridge that leads to the castle and I managed to get clipped by the fire breath and got knocked down
>He runs away and starts summoning Phantoms
You try and play the "nice" invader and try to make shit as fair as possible, but in the end the host wants every advantage they can get. Don't fuck around when Invading, take any and every advantage you can get. Lead them into mobs, use UDH charms, ambush with Tree Branches / Chameleon, anything.
>>336682179
It still conveys DaS3 invasions incredibly well
>Invade
>Blues everywhere
>Be a blue
>Never get summoned
Fucking bullshit
>>336682424
being a jerk in a game is fun, news at 11
>>336682651
Don't forget the rare occasion where you get to be blue, you get the duty fulfilled right as you arrive and get nothing for your trouble.
How much does dex actually affect casting speed? Is it worth levelling as a caster?
>>336682571
>You try and play the "nice" invader and try to make shit as fair as possible,
There is no 'nice' invader.
When you invade you try to fuck over someone's progress.
You deserve whatever you get.
>>336682787
I don't know why From put all these fucking stipulations on Proofs, if you're in the world and the Invader dies you should just get the fucking Proof.
>Invaders can invade nigh instantly
>They get Ears / Shackles / Medals no matter what as long as the host dies
I've invaded and got my tongue immediately upon spawning.
>>336663894
>implying every Codeine Covenant member isn't a treacherous bastard who will betray the host when the opportunity will present itself
I've taken to going to Crucifixion woods and using Dried Finger and Seed of the Tree Giants with Way of The Blue on. I feel this is the best way to get the fun of having a war of covenants without it being completely one sided in either way. Usually you'll end up two versus two and it has the added benefit of giving the less active covenants some action.
So you can have Darkmoon/Blue Sentinels. Watchdogs of Farron, and of course Rosaria's Fingers/Mound Makers/Sunlight Warrior in this area. I'd recommend it over Aldrich.
>>336680921
I'm used to hundreds of hours of fight clubs and a decent variety of "dueling" areas where 1v1s could be found.
Now every time you invade you get stuck in a dried fingered 3 phantom, seeded world.
>>336683115
What level are you?
>>336682975
Keep telling yourself that, hosts can avoid invasions entirely by not being Embered, why don't you try invading sometime and experience the "fun" of constant 3v1s
>>336683184
So you are upset invaders are being treated like actual invaders? What kind of autsim is this. Not every invasion is going to be a fight club or duels.
>>336659120
>says the guy who, instead of progressing the game, invade other players to bother them
Funny.
>>336683226
120.
>>336672615
>invade Catacombs
>find host and phantom at the bottom of the long stairs
>kill phantom
>host runs all the way back to the entrance
>summons the same fucking guy
>I kill him again
>host runs around dodging
>summons him a third time
>I'm out of estus and die
>>336683184
>now
Have you never experienced ganksquads in darkroot garden/Anor Londo/Kiln?
>>336682179
I think it makes sense, the vast majority of blues are in the back away from the guy
>be honour joestar moralfag even though invaders are sacrificing nothing by coming in and ruining my progress for free shit
>invaders always some min max try hard twink build on his second or third playthrough who will use whatever to win
>muh dools
so satisfying to r1 spam in co-op
>tfw I get my first hatemail
>tfw he messaged me by mistake and was bitching about chugging to win and quitting which isn't something I have ever done
And I was so excited too...
>>336668121
Only temporarily, use the white sigil thing which regens after about 11 hours, so there's no long term consequences
>>336672954
Build plz
>>336659120
>Does anyone actually enjoy invading? Just waiting around to kill someone who's trying to summon help with a boss they already can't handle?
Red phantom tears are best tears
>>336659120
I spent about 45 minutes yesterday fighting a guy and the three different phantoms he summoned to help him and I had great fun. Hit and run arrow attacks from out of nowhere, leading them into toxic muck and disguising myself as the host, I had a blast. He got killed fighting a mimic I got him to hit.
>Dry Finger for PVP fun.
>Someone from who knows where the fuckistan invades and has lag invulnerability because his internet can't handle 5 people
I hate this shit. Why can't From make a decent region locking option for people that aren't Japanese.
>Want to make an interesting pyromancer/melee hybrid
>Pyromancy is so costly in stats that I always feel completely gimped in melee and end up going back to my full strength character
>Pyromancy only works on complete retards or people distracted in multiman situations
SIGH
>>336683741
This
I'm so tired of invading/getting invaded by someone from across the globe.
>>336683332
That happens way too often to me. It does feel great when you do manage to kill the host when they fuck up a roll though.
>>336682538
>Summon mound makers and then immediately attack them
Why did you even go through the effort?
Quite a few times I've been summoned and then immediately murdered by the host the second I engage an enemy or an invader.
Then they do an emote like they accomplished something.
I don't mind gankers because as a grapist I only need to meet my quota of slain shitters to succeed
>>336684045
>Put down a down to summon yourself as an invander
>not expecting to be killed
Explain why would a host let you kill his phantoms?
>>336683530
The only one I got was from an invader that was pissed I walked into a boss fight
THE GUILTY PAY THE PRICE
>>336684253
They get credit for killing invaders too.
>>336684510
So? Red phantoms can kill other reds too
>summon buddy in pontiff's backyard
>pop dried finger and seed
>it becomes a fucking war club
shit is so fun and can't even be considered ganking because of the chaos
I've been thinking about ways to make PVP a little more balanced and less cheesy. Tell me what you think.
>Make activating a summon sign have an animation, something akin to casting a miracle so that people can't just summon more phantoms while backpedaling
>Make hosts not invulnerable when passing through fog gates
>Make white phantoms capable of friendly firing each other when using Seed of The Tree Giants
>Make estus health recharge not instantaneous so that taking a hit while drinking the estus will not heal the entirety of the estus sippy
>have to run ultra greatswords so you can stand a chance against +3 gank squads
I have no quarrel with hosts having 1-2 phantoms, but if the world is seeded as well then it's bullshit.
>>336684253
because most of the worlds I've been summoned to have an invader in them?
Its far easier to kill a phantom because they dont have 5 million estus like the usual host.
Plus if they have phantoms I KNOW I'm being summoned into being raped by a ganksquad anyway.
>Defeat the host or 3 phantoms
>>336684645
Those are fucking retarded and would ruin pve you know the thing the game was made for.
>invade as a grapist
>it's a fight club
>wander in, play along at first, hello rock, etc.
>blue and red duking it out in the pit
>both low
>toss a fireball
>get both
>fade out as the host runs over to attack me
Fight clubs are for queers
>invade two people dueling
>clip the red phantom and run
>he and the host follow
>unga bunga the red to death and keep running
>Invaded by Aldrich FAGMASTA420!
>destroy him while host is still in hot pursuit
>Vertebra shackle found. Returning to your world.
>host bows as i leave
To be a silly little grape is to be zane incarnate
As a blue sentinel I don't even understand why you ONLY get summoned to ganksquads
I seriously don't fucking get it,you NEVER get summoned to some random guy who is just doing shit. You get summoned to some guy with 2 other phantoms and you're just like 'why did you even need me come on man'
Where are all the solo players? Why am I not being summoned to them, and why aren't people invading them? I spend most of my time going through the game embered and I never get invaded. Why?
>>336684736
Care to explain? I mean the only one that would have any effect at all on PVE is the last one, and I don't see why that's a bad thing unless you're extremely awful at the game.
They should let blues invade red sinners again.
>>336683594
>>336684782
I don't have any problems with fight clubs by themselves, but when it's some fucking idiot trying to host a fight club by being embered and using dried finger in Aldrich expecting random people to play by his rules then they're morons and deserve a swift death via glitched Sacred Flame.
>>336684914
They should just let blues help everyone in the 'good' covenants rather than only way of blue, it would solve a lot of problems.
You could even do both, we have TWO fucking blue covenants after all
>>336684858
>Not invurable during fog gates
Not really bad but could be annoying in some spots like silver knight arches
>Taking time to get summons
because most of the time it is unable to connect because of a lot of people summing as it that would make it even longer to summon people.
>White phantoms capable of friendly fireing
Because that fucking ignores the point of white phantoms you fucking pvp faggot.
It's pretty fun. Although I only do it because of how fucked the online is in this game. I've literally never invaded anyone that was solo in my 150 hours of playing it and over 400 invasions yet I get invaded solo all the time. So sometimes I like to take my frustration out by sitting with a friend or 2 and then summoning mad phantoms and getting invaded and murdering all of them at once.
>>336684645
I just want the estus thing.
Hell, make it so you go into guard break animation if you're hit while taking a sippy.
>>336685167
>because most of the time it is unable to connect because of a lot of people summing as it that would make it even longer to summon people.
It would only need to be something extremely brief, like the animation for using a dried finger, so that they can be at the very least punished when the invader is right in their face. If you really have so much problem summoning people that that would pose a real issue for you then perhaps the problem is on your end, and perhaps consider getting gud.
>Because that fucking ignores the point of white phantoms you fucking pvp faggot.
Can you read? It would literally only have friendly fire when you use Seed of The Tree giants, which is exclusively a PVP item. How does that "defeat the purpose" of anything?
>>336664227
this
Nothing is more satisfying than taking out the hosts gank squad and then watching him rage quit like a little bitch.
>walking through faraam crabland
>big ass crabs fucking me up while wooden dildo zombies cram logs into my ass
>ur invaded by watchdog
>somehow manage to clear out the crabs and dildo zombies while dodging invader
>its now a 1v1 and i'm out of flasks
>outplay invader enough to also run him out of flasks
>ur invaded by watchdog
>are you fucking joking me
>somehow manage to kill the first watchdog through sheer luck of throwing firebombs on accident
>ur invaded by dark spirit
>ur invaded by watchdog
this place is cancer man. i thought there was an invasion timer.
>>336685528
They are there to protect no matter what comes be it invader npc or boss. If they were able to attack each other no matter the reason they would no longer me protectors
>Something brief
They all ready tell you host is summoning phantoms even if you are an invader. They don't need to do anything else also I like the fact you are the one telling me to git gud when you are the one bitching invaders don't have it easy.
>>336680689
80 isn't a meta I'm pushing, it's the SL where you still get invades into people still playing the game.
I'm not talking about honourabu fight clubs or dueling or shit.
I'm on about red eye orb or Aldrich Faithful larking.
>>336684645
If rolling used up 2 or 3 times more stamina and there weren't even half as many invincibility frames I honestly think that would fix the God awful PvP in this and it would at the same time make PvE harder and I think more fun. Also agree with the estus thing, it should either take longer to drink or stop healing once you're hit.
>>336685770
What the fuck is up with your English? Is it your second language or something? Also I'm not going to argue with you over the "principle" of being a white phantom or whatever.
>>336681754
>dueling phantom as a purple drank
>i back off when he gets low on health to let him chug because he sucks
>he's already used all of his, i haven't drank once
>spare him at the last moment
>host instakills me with a soul spear
i laughed so fucking hard, it was amazing
>>336685954
It is my third I do not speak native english sorry. White phantoms attack each other defeats their prinicable witch is why it should be brought up.
>>336671912
>girl
>getting free items
Oh REALLY?
>>336662141
There needs to be someone normal colored up the back laughing with "host of embers" above them.
>>336673061
> little boy
>>336659120
Nah, it's for bad players to feel good
I prefer wrecking ganksquads
>>336679527
Top fucking kek
>>336681754
>Invade anor londo
>Just me and a guy on the steps
>He bows, we start duelling
>I have the obvious upper hand
>He runs off, chugs estus, summons phantoms
>Spend the next 10 minutes reinacting a benny hill sketch back and forth with phantoms summoned in, me backing up to get mob support, Phantom dying and the cycle beginning anew
>This happens 3 times in 5 invasions
Pretty satisfying if you end up with a kill, otherwise it's downright frustrating.
>>336682651
>Invade at least 50 times
>Finally a blue turns up
>Charges up to me as if to say OH BOY NOWS MY TIME TO SHINE
>Blow him up in a single combo
I genuinely felt bad. That was probably the first and only time he ever got summoned
>>336659120
It's pretty fun to fight against them though. Baiting them into tough enemies etc.
>>336684817
>Get summoned in as a grape to deal with the local riff-raff
>Help the host take down a red and an aldrich faithful
>Host bows for thanks, conveniently next to a ledge
>You can guess where this is going
The hate mail is glorious. Mound makers is by far my favourite addition to the game.
>>336688098
Whenever I'm invading and a Dorkmoon fag shows up I make sure to single them out and kill them so they don't get a reward
I feel bad sometimes
>>336688993
I don't. If I can't be a blueberry then nobody can.
>>336684645
how about
>prevent host from summoning phantoms after they have been invaded
>prevent tree of a seed of giants being used if the host has 3+ phantoms
>eliminate the invasion warning sign, making the host oblivious to wither or not they've been invaded.
>>336679527
I've done this quite a bit. Catacombs really is the best place to farm covenant items.
>>336689983
>eliminate the invasion warning sign, making the host oblivious to wither or not they've been invaded.
maybe if they have phantoms summoned, getting r1 spammed in the back while fighting monsters solo is about as anti-fun as you can get
>Get summoned as a white
>Host makes it pretty clear that hes trying to start a fightclub
>Sit and wait for the battles to begin
>As soon as two players are going at it, I run into the arena and fatally backstab one of them
>Immediately every phantom in the world wants me dead
>Lead the whole FC on a willd goose chase around Anor Londo and the courtyard
>Because Silvercat Ring + Obscuring Ring + Slumbering Dragon, they have a really hard time keeping up with me
>Takes the host a full 10 minutes to remember he has a black crystal.
Moral of the story: I didn't want to fucking fightclub. I wanted to play co-op. Summon reds if you want to FC.
>>336665168
Fuck parying.
A while back some fuckheads tried to trick me into a 1 vs 5 gank in the cathedral. After using a seed as well I just bailed for higher ground and used a branch to turn into a statue.
Made that little ruse of theirs cost them 20 minutes, and if I hadn't bothered unmasking I could have been there hiding in plain sight for hours.
