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Stormwind Park district is finally getting fixed. It only took 6 years.
I'd rather see it on legacy servers
looks like shit, old stormwind park is x100 better
go lap up blizzard's cum while you pay them another $15, faggot
>>336650754
>can't even undo cata changes
>think they can make a legacy server
Looks worse than before
>Fixing the park
What about the rest of the game?
>>336650980
literally never happening
they are consciously pandering to total retards to expand profit margins, there is no turning back anymore
Not bad considering it took the same amount of time to fix the bridge in Lakeshire.
>>336650858
Bunch of french monkeys manage to do it,
Blizzard: n-no its impossible
Now, how long will it take for them to fix the rest of the Azeroth? Destroying the whole world was a fucking stupid idea precisely for this reason: even the most superficial glance shows you it's just after the Cataclysm event (often times so close it doesn't make sense: repairing the Booty Bay statue might take a while but you'd expect the city to be cleaned of seaweed within hours, it's just silly for player character to ever see it in that state, higher-level areas should at least have been further in the process of rebuilding)... forever. The old world was in some sort of believable status quo and that's how the world design should have stayed.
>>336651984
literally infinitely better looking
keep sucking blizzard cock faggot
>>336652194
okay, have fun not enjoying things like i can
>>336650583
Shouldn't that island be flooded over with water?
There are like 10 waterfalls that flow into that surrounding river, and the staircases dam the water's flow.
Nice design, I guess...
>>336652194
The park felt like an afterthought.
The Cataclysm version of Stormwind is infinitely better than the old layout.
>>336652248
Why would you put drains above water level?
>>336652248
>Shouldn't that island be flooded over with water?
>>336652401
>that tiny ass amount of water.
lel ok
>>336652474
>My first nitpick to bitch about WoW failed, now I must double down
lel ok
>>336652401
maybe that aquaduct is deeper than it looks?
But definitely ask them at blizzcon to see them squirm
>>336652515
That tiny outlet couldnt drain the flow of 10 fucking waterfalls tho.
Its still shitty design.
I haven't played since WotLK, what's wrong with the park?
>>336652627
>He doesn't know that as of BlizzCon 2015 all questions are pre-screened at the Q&A Submission Booth hours before the panel so they can script their answers
No more hard questions to the WoW team, anon.
>>336652728
Deathwing made it into a crater
>>336652728
Cataclysm happened.
>>336652248
>what is underground construction
>>336652848
>>336652915
ooooooh, I thought by "fixed," OP meant that there was a bug that needed fixing or something.
Did they fix the game being garbage?
>>336653035
>he posted it again xD
>>336652918
>The water flows into Stormwind Stockades
Nah
>>336650583
Wasn't it always the Nelf district anyways?
Pretty sure all that changed in cata was the park moving down and making the crater some barracks that was never there to begin with.
>>336653035
They're Pruning more abilities. You can literally play Arms Warrior with a gamepad now, you just need to set the Tank as a focus target and bind your assist macro to l3.
>>336652738
>hard questions
You mean useless questions. People always ask the same shit and tt's always the same fucking answer's, and any "hard" questions they just wave off immediately.
>>336653265
>You mean useless questions. People always ask the same shit and tt's always the same fucking answer's, and any "hard" questions they just wave off immediately.
Yeah just watch BlizzCon 2015, the pre-screening sure stopped the dumb questions.
Oh wait, it turned it into nothing but dumb questions, and cut out everything negative. Every other BlizzCon had better, more pressing Q&As
>>336653265
>Legacy servers
>"You think you do but you dont"
No. The questions arent always useless. They just dont want to look bad when they dont know the answer or say no.
>>336650583
>tfw you want to nerd wow like in old days but you need to be a responsible adult that has a job and can't game 8+ hours a day anymore
at least the game is s-shit nowadays r-right guys?
>>336653150
Are you mixing up the the mage district with the park? Because this was the park, and its gone.
Do they still do the dance contest after that dude broke his leg on stage?
>>336653472
Holy shit did you just thaw from your cryochamber from 2004?
Holy fuck that "poopsock second job" shit is such a fucking ancient stereotype it's jarring to even read it.
WoW takes 8 hours a week to be a world first guild now.
>>336652241
>have fun not being able to enjoy an abusive relationship
>>336653818
>projecting
>>336653427
Except that's been proven true since people seem to want vanilla with the qol enhancements/balance changes of current retail. Which isn't vanilla.
>>336654000
No they don't.
>>336651303
The thing is, if you think about it, Nostalrius is a garbage implementation and Blizzard even now has some standards (not necessarily in terms of good design or not being fucking jews, but in terms of polish). Most underlying systems of the game are inherently wrong (for example, retail prior to WOD had batch processing, causing "0-400ms delay" to certain auras being applied and emergent behaviours like blinding vanishes or warriors charging each other, a few of which have been hackfixed on some servers, but there's only one server to actually have implemented the correct system, Corecraft), world and quests lack attention to detail (ranging from Shimmering Flats races to details like certain fish being available during certain time of day), quests and mobs don't work correct if you actually start looking at implementation details (mobs have wrong values, quest RP is missing, mobs often miss their patrol paths and don't always have their abilities) etc. If you wanted things to work Correctly and looked even at the minute details, Nostalrius had millions of bugs and only a small number of things that actually worked 100%.
Besides, while I'm not claiming they did nothing at all, 90%+ of all work on Nostalrius was actually done before they even started their project, by open source community developing MaNGOS (and projects prior to that figuring out the client-server protocol, retail theorycrafters and dataminers doing their thing etc).
>>336654152
If I could transplant retail Ret or even WoTLK Ret over vanilla or bc, I'd play them in a heartbeat.
>>336654289
But people don't want that. They want the ret from vanilla.
>>336654387
Ask any Ret paladin who played vanilla that, and you'll see just how wrong you are.
Hell even BC was shit for ret unless you rolled horde because they had seal of blood. To this day I don't understand why alliance didn't get SoB and horde didn't get SoV. More faggot ass horde bias from the devs probably. Fuck metzen and his orc fetish.
Do you realize there has not been a SINGLE alliance-centric expansion? Every single one has been horde based, or horde came in and stole the show.
BC? Horde got this giant ass story line about the brown orcs in nagrand and thralls quest line and shit, Kael'thalas (a BE) going nuts, ect. Alliance got literally NOTHING. No storylines involving the lost alliance heroes like Turalyon, no storyline involving the backstory of honor hold. Can't even count Khadgar being in Shattrath because he was neutral.
WoTLK? It was supposed to be Allianced based because of Arthas' history, but nope, Horde came in and stole the show with the forsaken plague subplot, the dumb faggot orcs son being turned into a DK subplot, Garrosh being a cunt subplot ect. Even one of our greatest heroes Fordring turned neutral because muh horde.
I could go on to the other expansions but I don't want to. Its depressing me. Also character limit.
>>336654000
What fucking QoL? The game is terrible now.
They removed shit that made the game immersive and added shit that turned it into facebook.
>No more random weather
>No more Day/Night
>World feels dead since people only log in to check their garrisons, and use a queue finder for anything else
>Professions have no purpose, cant use them to make money anymore
>Cosmetic items and BoA means items only have artificial rarity, created by removing content.
>Added level 90/100 boosts
>Added so many heirlooms to sink gold into, but trivializes leveling.
>Added game time tokens
>Added facebook games in the form of Garrisons and class halls
>Will further manage to trivialize daily/weekly quests by randomizing and cycling them globally. Removes even more reason to log in per day.
>Remove any real, progressive changes to the game in favor of "revamped" systems that casualize the game even more. CoD PvP, Diablo Challenge Modes, LFR.
>Retconned most lore that started in Vanilla in favor of Wrath of the Titans-esque bullshit.
Just a few reasons why people DO want to play Vanilla WoW again.
>>336654750
You just have to say "Orcs".
It applies to every brutal bullshit mistake they made with the lore and expansion decisions.
>>336655248
Can't argue with that, anon.
>>336654969
Haven't played since WoLtK, but did they really removed the day night cycle and rabdom weather ? Why the FUCK would they do that ?!
>>336655737
They developed a new engine for Cata, but permanently broke the day and night cycle and weather.
Even though the skybox has the moon out, its bright as fuck and you cast a hard shadow.
The only weather in the game now comes from scripted areas where its always coming down.
>>336650583
It's been 6 years? Can't have been more than 4....
>>336650583
>Hurr fuck rebuilding! Lets leave the giant fucking craor where most of our citizens and merchants lived.
>Brilliant! Slap some trees and a dead mook on it and were golden!
>>336656332
They would rather spend time re-making Orgrimmar again
The fact that this crap was still on fire throughout MoP and WoD is a perfect example of "Blizzard's" (Read: Activision, Deeply Troubled Dev Team & AIDS) laziness and attitude towards the game.
>>336653215
[citation needed]
>>336651095
>they are consciously pandering to total retards to expand profit margins
Same as it ever was
>>336655737
They broke it and couldn't fix it. Not surprising considering the current lead developer considers a tank being at 50% HP to be their "sweet spot".
>>336657060
But there's nothing wrong with that? Most tanks linger around 70% anyway.
>>336652675
The main waterfalls could just be really hot and the outflow could just be really cold
>lrn 2 Thermodynamics
>>336656332
I just read that in that actors voice. It was perfect.
It's unreal how trash WoW is now.
>>336657060
>wasting mana keeping your tanks overhealed
>>336657262
You clearly play with shitty healers. Mythic Tyrant hits for 700k in phase 3.
>>336657262
>>336657545
>I've never played in high level content before
>>336657550
Tyrant also gets burned down extremely fast in Phase 3 if you're playing with people wearing at all decent gear.
>>336657685
>I've never played in high level content before
I've been raiding since TBC. Tanks typically sit around 70-80% health.
>>336650583
What about Exodar or Silvermoon? ;)
Still not buying it.
>>336657775
>I've been raiding since TBC. Tanks typically sit around 70-80% health.
No they don't. They haven't even spent significant amounts of time under 100% since WotLK.
>>336657775
>I've been raiding since TBC. Tanks typically sit around 70-80% health.
Then you'd know they don't "linger" anywhere. And no, year old content doesn't count as raiding. Progression is actual raiding. Farming is farming.
>>336657932
They do linger in parts of their health pool during non-burst stages.
>>336657901
>they haven't spent significant amounts of time under 100%
Beginning to think you're the one who hasn't done high level raiding. There isn't a raid in WoD or MoP where you're sitting at full health the entire time because they all have high burst damage periods you're saving cooldowns for.
>>336657775
>Tanks typically sit around 70-80% health.
Yeah, that's what he said. You've never played high level content before.
>>336658103
>Bring paladin healer to raid
Tanks are only not 100% in the half second following getting hit.
>>336658103
>I killed Garrosh after the prepatch and I killed Heroic Archimonde after item upgrades, I'm a REAL raider xD
>>336658103
>There isn't a raid in WoD or MoP where you're sitting at full health the entire time because they all have high burst damage periods you're saving cooldowns for.
Why would you need to blow cooldowns to keep a tank topped when he's not getting bursted? I'm beginning to think you've never even played the game.
>>336658268
I did Heroic Archimonde as progression content and did Garrosh on release. Why are you so desperate to project?
>>336658269
If they're full health for 1 second and knocked to 80% constantly that's lingering at 80% you coon.
>>336658446
>Lingering- lasting for a long time or slow to end.
hurr durr
>Why are you so desperate to project?
Because your comments say otherwise.
>>336658446
>If they're full health for 1 second and knocked to 80% constantly that's lingering at 80% you coon.
No, no it isn't. That's not what the word lingering means, but maybe if you backpedal really hard a group of anonymous nerds on the internet will believe you're really good at a shitty, decade old video game.
>>336655737
Wait, I stopped at Wrath as well. They broke time and weather? How do they expect it to feel like a world?
>>336657775
How do people think FFXIV is easier than WoW, when healers have to manage when to heal or not depending on tank damage and their own mana, and apparently WoW vets just throw out heals willy nilly?
>>336658717
Because Blizzard is incompetent and can't make mana matter. They've been trying since Cata and by the end of the expansion every single time healers have infinite mana.
>>336656647
>laziness and attitude towards the game.
Toward the Alliance*
Orgrimmar had major and minor changes 3 times during the time Stormwind had a crater while Blizzard claimed they didn't have the resources to "waste" on fixing the park.
>>336658717
Because FF14 has numerically easy bosses, in addition to smaller group sizes. It is vastly easier to get 10 people to do the right thing than it is to get 20.
>>336658717
>>336658826
Seriously, Blizzard is just awful. At the start of every expansion mana is always tight and people can't heal much. Resto shamans can't spam chain heal. Druids can't spam genesis. Disc couldn't PoH much in Highmaul. Mistweavers couldn't RJW. Then Blizzard increases everyone's ilvl by 100 by the end of the expansion and people never oom.
>>336659064
Their solution in Legion is that Mana regen simnply will not scale. Spirit is gone entirely. All regen will be tied to abilities. Innervate is coming back, and Channeled Mana potions are too.
>>336658717
>>336658908
FFXIV is dogshit in quality.
Keep eating up that same bullshit Yoshi has been feeding you since 2.3, drones.
and no, I don't play WoW, so don't tell me I'm a blizzdrone because I hate all the weebshitters who continuously shill FFXIV generals on /v/ instead of sticking to their /vg/ containment.
I played from 1.16 to 2.3, and all I see is the same shit from 2.3 forward, and still no sight in dropping console bullshit that really weighs the game down in limitations and gameplay.
>>336657897
>These will never be integrated into the world because the slashed budget doesn't have room to fix them for flying
Feels bad, man. It's really jarring to be able to walk from Booty Bay to Light's Hope but then get slammed by a loading screen for the final leg of the journey.
>>336653472
i know that feel way too well
>spent 9 hours at work because >wageslave job that doesnt pay for lunch time, even 30 min
>spend an hour each way for travel
>another to get ready for work
>12 hours of my 24 hour day already wasted relating to work
>NEED at least 7 hours so im not a grumpy pessimistic bitch
>19 hours left
>5 hours, of which 1 is usually cooking/eating
>4 hours left for personal hygiene (shower) and any other social or hobby activities
GETTING OLD AND BEING A WAGESLAVE IS SUFFERING
I wish I could find a job that lets me work four 10 hour days, so I could have 3 days off.
That would be ideal.
>>336654969
>>>No more random weather
>>No more Day/Night
As someone who quit right after TBC launched, I feel depressed reading that.
No fucking wonder people want a Vanilla or TBC legacy server now.
Day/Night and random weather when I was 17 and playing my first western MMO? That shit was sealing the deal on immersion to me with my (compared to current standards) toaster back then.
The only MMO I played before WoW was FFXI, and I loved that one to death too, but no one at my high school was playing it, and being midwest, most of FFXI (4+ hour long) parties were west coast, and my parents were die hard nazis about going to bed on time.
Luckily, WoW was an option due to a few friends playing in HS at the time, and I was hooked by the sheer size of the world map.
Ever since FFXI/WoW TBC, I've been disappointed by MMOs. I tried FFXIV; it was decent in its 1.x world, because it was actually huge and it actually had threats in the open world. Then the reboot happened, and it turned in to (what I've been told but never experienced firsthand) modern WoW, with all the "streamlining" bullshit, and also having to be dumbed down/smaller world due to consoles and Yoshi P being a fucking hack.
>friend and I accept Blizzard's free week to see just how bad WoW has become and say one final goodbye to it
>everything is watered down beyond belief
>we go tank and healer to instaqueue through dungeons
>reach 60 in 40 hours without even using heirlooms
>everyone else is wearing full sets of heirlooms yet barely know how to play the game even in its current extremely shallow form
>there's no need to wait between packs of mobs and pulling half of the dungeon at a time is doable
>the only way to get any semblance of fun out of the game is to go as fast as possible and get through instances in one long, continuous pull
>can initiate vote-kicks that get through even if made on baseless accusations
>nobody ever says anything unless they're angry and log out instantly after sending you fan-mail
>you'll be lucky to find even one other person in Stormwind
>>336660712
That's depressing.
>>336660272
maybe check your math
>>336650583
YES!!
They are removing the ruins whre all these roleplaying faggots from "Gossenläufer" on "Die Aldor" played their shitty roleplay.
VERY GOOD!!
>>336650583
and the tunnel-bridge thing that leads to the docks still looks like shit.
>>336650583
I still remember when they implied the Park would be fixed after Ragnaros was killed/Firelands raid tier was over
>>336660712
>>336650583
WHY WOULDN'T THEY BURY HIM NEXT TO HIS FUCKING WIFE???
>>336661795
You first, mobileposting retard.
>9+1+1+1+7=19
>19+5 = 24 hours
Seriously, get your eyes checked.
>>336654750
I'm a guy that played ret and only ret and literally nothing else from the first day of vanilla till the first day of wod
and i can tell you in my honest opinion that i would NOT want the ret from vanilla at the very least from TBC because we actually had a melee attack
>>336652474
>that huge amount of autism
>>336660712
>can initiate vote-kicks that get through even if made on baseless accusations
That's probably because it's so easy to replace them.
Back in the day, you wouldn't kick somebody unless they were absolute shit because it would take a while to replace them. My favorite thing about leveling and 5 man dungeons was finding ways to make less optimal groups work.
>>336650583
Maybe if we didn't kill all the fucking masons it wouldn't have taken this long.
>>336653215
You've been able to play most DPS classes with a gamepad for a really long time. I've done it since WotLK.
>>336656905
http://www.wowhead.com/guides/classes/legion/warrior#abilities-general
I don't think warrior was the class that got hit the worst actually. In fact their rotation is better in Legion than it is in 6.2 since the HFC set bonus is absolutely retarded.
Who cares?
![33NtMiL[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PHTKQ7Y.jpg "33NtMiL[1].jpg")
dude praise the sun lmao
>>336666672
Nothing new, he's been a Garrison Follower for over a year
>>336666672
PRAISE IT
>>336650583
That looks like stonework with blue curtains draped over it.
>>336653265
>Blizzcon 2016 Q&A
>Blizzard: We've created some questions which we as a company, think that the audience may ask.
>Audience: Why don't you let us ask the good questions?
>Blizzard: You think you do but you don't.
Blizzcon 2015 Q&A was absolutely shit.
>>336650754
>legacy servers
No thanks
>>336671541
fuck off wotlkbabby, no one asked for you're opinion
>>336671541
>I don't want it so nobody should have it
Fuck off m8.
>>336651095
>making the game so that it loses 70% of its subscribers
>expanding profit margins
Somehow, it's still believable with the cash shop. The game supposedly had its best quarter while simultaneously having its lowest sub count since vanilla.
>>336650583
>no players
LOL
>>336672598
Apparently paying more to play less is very popular nowadays
>>336654750
>muh balance balance balance balance
We want to have fun you shitbreed vomit
only vanilla was fun, it went to shit after that
>>336672658
>Content from an alpha that has invited nothing more than a handful of youtube shills
>They aren't sitting around in Stormwind while they have access to new content
Woah what a shock, I can't believe it.
I assume that means Horde players get old Org back? Oh thank god, that new layout is fucking awful.
Goodbye, bombed out old fort that my criminal pals and I would RP in. Honestly though, I wouldn't mind the change if the new park wasn't so tiny.
>>336672598
>expanding profit margins
profit margins, not profit.
>Launch is only 3.5 months away
>Still no beta
>Still only invited twitch and youtube shills to the alpha
>Even then a lot of them have already made a ton of rant videos on everything from the order halls to class design to the followers being garbage
They're hiding it for a reason, folks. It's going to be worse than WoD
>>336672893
if you are Gossenläufer, literally kill yourself
You didn't do shit despite sitting around and rping love-dramas
>>336672893
>I wouldn't mind the change
Here we go, the contrarians are already here to whine that the park was better when it was busted.
Park looks great now, but it's bullshit Varian had to die for us to get it.
Now his retarded son is going to lead the Alliance.
Being Varian is suffering.
>>336673092
>Now his retarded son is going to lead the Alliance.
Too busy being green jesus 2.0
>>336673092
>Now his retarded son is going to lead the Alliance.
Now we all get to join him at the Orc bull pen, where we can all enjoy a nice Orc cock in our peaceful asses.
How do you pronounce Wrynn?
>>336673628
"Rhy-nuh-nuh"
>>336673628
Rin
Looks good.
>>336673628
Like Win except with an R instead of a W
>>336650858
Yeah, I'm sure they'd struggle to find a vanilla gamedisk.90% of vanilla content is on a DVD that 90% of wow players have in their posession.
>>336674194
Wrong, the client has no idea what to do with any of the data. The client doesn't know where mobs should be, what HP they should be, what damage your spells should deal, etc. It's like getting the art assets from a game with none of the code except the renderer and movement code.
>>336674194
There's server side and the client side stuff. The models and the terrain and such like are in the vanilla discs, but mob stats, placement and AI, quests (both the quest text and all the associated mechanics), damage calculations, pathfinding and such like are server-side and the CDs only contain the client.
>>336672796
>new content
>cuckgion
>>336672910
..Then the niche market, AKA buy 2 get, or even the "total re-re" market has to be a minority. There's a huge gaming demographic that requires something more from the game, or they would sub..
