>$300 or more for a tiny metal square
Master race right guis?
Well thats what happens when a company has literally no competition.
>$100 or more for a fucking calculator
I can't wait for AMD to BTFO Intel/Nvidia this gen. Fuck them and their jewery
>>336646268
>$50 or more to access your own internet.
>>336646268
But anon, if it's smaller then the electricity can move through it faster.
>>336646618
LOL
nothing can go faster than light
>>336646431
I do not recalled ever paying $100 for a TI-83. My TI-89 was 100+ in 2006 though.
>>336646268
My brother had to pay hundreds of dollars for a titanium tooth to replace a dead one. It's smaller than a CPU.
>>336646268
>8 threads meme
>3.7 ghz meme
>>336646706
Exactly, thank you for proving my point
there's no reason for the average consumer to buy an i7
>>336646268
My 4790k was $120 and I'm going to pick up a 6700K for $140 soon.
Intel retail edge. Its pretty ok.
>>336646401
Yeah I mean, it's not like fabricating microprocessors requires millions upon millions of dollars worth of equipment, millions upon millions, if not billions, of man-hours of design, engineering, testing, r&d, per generation, the ability to produce extremely pure elements/molecules and then finely alter them by passing in other atoms, all done in an environment several orders of magnitude cleaner and void of unwanted particulate matter than an operating theater.
Oh wait.
>>336646431
>tfw I found one of these randomly at school
Fucking loved that thing.
>>336647271
>Intel retail edge
my gentleman of color!
>>336647612
Actually a whitegrill.
I dont even work in an electronics department. I'm a frozen dairy stocker at Walmart but I can still claim it because they're part of the program. Its great.
>>336646268
why dont you go learn about processors and tell me that they're just metal squares
>>336647612
i dunno about you but fuck the daily challenge shit you have to do this year
>>336647789
I work at Best Buy but as loss prevention. Shit's so cash. I got a pair of Sony MDRZ7's for $210.
Discounts are nice
>>336647798
They're just metal squares. Don't be an idiot about it.
Do you think your brain is worth less than $300?
>>336647965
you mormon, it has silicon inside the metal too
>>336647612
>quit job a month ago to move
>still validated for retail edge for the next two weeks
>just make the summer sale before I'm cast aside forever
truly blessed
>>336648139
Where is silicon on the periodic table?
>>336647304
Consoles have microprocessors in them too retard, but they don't cost 350 dollars+
Intels prices are a result of no competition.
>>336646431
>tfw
>>336648214
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon
>>336647304
Yes but no competition means that you can put the price as high as you want.
>>336648443
Wiki can be edited
Sillycone is a metal, just look at dat dere image.
>>336648361
It's almost like more powerful microprocessors, which are more complex, and require more layers of material grown on them, with more complex lithography, cost more money.
How insane is that?
>>336648637
That's just a jewist conspiracy
>>336648524
No it doesn't. Intel is a business. They exist to make a profit for their shareholders. They have a natural upper limit given by the price point which gives the highest profits. If they set prices to $100,000,000,000,000 they would not make money.
>>336648556
literally retarded
>>336646268
I'm sorry you're poor, anon
>>336646498
>b-but you get FREE games!
>it's worth it for the QUALITY of the services!!!
>>336648637
>Which are more complex
How does it being "more complex" make it cost more?
Everything from the i5 to the i7 cost about exactly the same to make. You really are stupid. Do you even know how microprocessors are made?
>>336648139
>letting the thread continue for this long
>>336646268
Anon are you the same autistic faggot that refused to play Dark Souls 3 because he occasionally had a 8 fps drop in a 60 fps game and then made a thread about?
Yeah you sound about as autistic.
>>336647304
>all this made up shit just to prove a point
It's a fucking tiny tin square for fucks sake.
>>336647789
are...are you single?
>>336647939
Go do the e learning Sony. BT headphones and BT speaker 50% off
>>336648914
>Everything from the i5 to the i7 cost about exactly the same to make. You really are stupid. Do you even know how microprocessors are made?
>cost exactly the same to make
>How does it being "more complex" make it cost more?
Maybe you should get an education and have a clue what you are talking about before calling people stupid on /v/?
More complex = more transistors grown on each chip = more material used per wafer = more cycles of lithography/etching etc required per wafer = massive increase in costs and time per wafer
If they cost 'about exactly the same to make' only i7s would exist moron.
Get a clue in future before opening your mouth about something you have absolutely no clue about.
>>336646268
>a tiny metal square
What are how do compooter tho desu?
>>336646268
>people who have never used an i7
Seems like only limitation on how fast shit runs is how well its programmed to actually fully utilize my hardware
Shits fuckin magical
>$3000 for heavily pressurized carbon
>>336649316
I think you are legitimately retarded. Go actually look at the processor diagrams for the i5 and i7. The reason they exist in different spaces is literally because of R and D, not manufacturing. And even then, they only price the way they do because no competition.
>>336649669
Continue talking about something you don't even have the slightest inkling of a clue about moron.
>>336648740
But as a business with little to no competition they have no need to reduce cost on manufacturer.
>>336648410
>buying the CAS version when you could just hack the regular version to have it on it
Come on anon step it up
>>336649645
>A common as fuck rock sells for $3000 dollars because some Jews strictly regulate the sales of diamonds to make them worth more
>>336646268
nothing beats the feeling of placing a multi-hundred dollar square into it's position on a motherboard
>>336649437
If all you do is play games there's no reason to get one over an i5 though.
>>336649645
>3000 dollars to give up your personal life and freedom and potentially lose even more
Every motherfucker I work with has been through at least one divorce. I'm convinced it's not worth it.
>>336649983
Their fault for being shitty people or marrying a shitty person. Can't blame marriage when it's 100% the person's fault.
>>336646268
>$300 just for the cpu
>nothing else included
PC Musterace L:OL
>>336646268
silicon isn't metal, faggot
>>336650256
small price to pay to be able to do stuff like watch netflix and play next gen games on ultra at 1080p 60fps at the same time
>>336648214
>>336650256
its worth it when you can play 2 games and watch anime all at the same time
>>336650256
Guess what FAGGOT, it costs over 1000 dollars for all the modern day consoles. Guess what? The PC is at the point where it can emulate EVERYTHING. Even PS4 and Xbone.
Get fucked console kiddie.
>>336647312
>"found"
You mean stole you nigger
After all the hype and shilling Pascal/Polaris end up being another incremental 5% performance improvement over previous GPU.
>>336646268
>buying a $300 CPU for video games
Literally nobody does this except retards. Non-retards who buy processors for that much are doing other things like rendering, compiling, cloud computing, or mining for bitcoins.
>>336646618
>>336646706
But if it has less distance to travel then it gets there sooner.
>>336651115
or they just have money and like running many programs and not having them ever go slow
>>336649207
can you upgrade it to iron?
>Not getting top of the line overclockable chip
>Not waiting for X99-Refresh and 6950X
>Using less than 3 GPUs and 2 NVMe SSDs
>Playing at less than 4K 120fps
>"gaming" on consoles
>>336646706
>nothing can go faster than light
>not knowing about tachyons
>>336649257
What do you actually expect out of asking this?
>>336651848
OH SHIT I'M FEELIN' ITTACHYON
>there are people on this board that pay to eat
>>336651379
kek
3/10
Please refrain from opining on this topic unless you have a background in electrical engineering, quantum electrodynamics, economics, and experience in the industry.
>>336647789
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>>336649285
MDRZ7's are $699. That's how I got them for $210. With the Sony accommodation
>>336648556
just like diamond is a metal right
>>336646431
When I was a kid my mom let me have one of these from her work because it was broken and I pretended it was a gameboy because she couldn't afford to get me a real one.
>>336649257
Totally anon. Now you can imagine not having me because there's no way in fuck anyone would randomly meet some loser over an image board.
>>336647304
>>336648740
>>336648637
>>336649316
>>336649724
>>336648740
You're a retard. The only reason the i7 processors are priced so high is because Intel operates in a virtual monopoly for those specific class of processors. It has nothing to do with manufacturing costs.
Source: I'm an auditor with Ernst and Young who regularly audits Intel's financial statements, inventories, factories, manufacturing plants, and corporate structure and governance.
>>336649983
it isn't worth it literally EVERYONE i work with has divorced at some point and lost money from it and i work with a lot of older people because the power engineering industry is almost exclusively 50+
>>336655075
im an auditor too and you're lying
>>336655140
During which stage of the audit fieldwork should a controls risk assessment be performed according to the COSO framework?
Guaranteed no replies.
>>336647271
>$120
Bullshit
>>336655394
first, you dingus
>>336655394
You tell me, Im the real auditor
>>336655394
The stage where I bang ur mom, you fuking noob
>>336655652
wrong
>>336655687
nice try, cuck
>>336646431
I'm not a particular fan of smartphones, but it is nice to just have an app as a replacement for this.
>>336646706
I can distort spacetime to go faster than light :^)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
>>336655787
2nd?i'm not an auditor i just tried to find out with google
>>336646706
Speed of light + 1km/h
boom
>>336655102
What can I say, Americans aren't good at rational thinking and decision making.
>>336655787
>wrong
Sure, whatever you say. You clearly don't know what you're talking about
>>336646498
This.
>>336646498
If PS4 lasts 7 years like PS2 and PS3 did, then you're looking at $350
That's more than I could sell my PS4 for. Multiplayer costs more than the system itself.
>>336648524
Rent seeking requires political power, not just lack of competition
>been waiting on a specific cpu cooler to come in stock on local online store
>been out of stock for weeks
>bite the bullet and order my 2nd choice
>one day later and the 1st choice comes back in stock
you cheeky cunts
>>336656427
So return it. One day is soon enough to cancel a shipped order at no cost depending on who you got it from
>>336647789
New York
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>>336646498
Stop being ignorant. You aren't paying to access your own internet. You don't even have your own fucking internet. You are first paying to access your ISP's infrastructure. The fee on the console is to access THEIR infrastructure which is separate from your ISP's.
Before you come back with some bullshit about defending consoles, I absolutely loathe them charging for multiplayer and think there is no defense for it. I'm just not going to be ignorant about it like a little fucking kid.
>>336652208
Well a few cover at least three of those but damn most of these niggers have a shit clue what economics is.
>>336657352
fuck economics let Trump deal with it
>>336655075
No shit. It isn't going to change anytime soon either. AMDfags are shilling Zen up like it's something to get excited about but it's going to be fucking Sandy Bridge tier performance 5 years late.
Desktop CPU performance has been FUBAR for awhile awhile. The only redeemable thing to be said about the CPU market is that because the tech is advancing so slow if you have something decent now you won't have to upgrade till PS5 comes out in 6 years.
>metal
It is fucking sand
>people fell for the PC meme
Enjoy your 4chan/indieshit machine
>>336656773
>THEIR infrastructure
You really should learn what p2p is, because that's mostly what you're being charged for.
>>336657432
Well i heard that they are going to stop pushing for more power in CPUs now, and are going all out in power consumption to reduce heat and power requirements now. Until ofc they switch from silicon based processorsto something else.
>>336647789
Pls be in my curren location and have sexual intercourse with me.
>>336651115
>mining for bitcoins
Retard here. How that works?. Why do you need a powerful computer to do that?.
>>336657606
Actually you should learn how matchmaking works first. P2P over the internet still uses a middleman. How do you think your game magically finds all these people to connect with? Why do you think that when Sony's or Microsoft's servers go down, you can't play with other people? P2P is not what you think it is. Learn some networking.
>>336658425
the more you process, the more bitcoins your rig can spit out in a day
>>336658494
Something as basic as matchmaking does not require $5 a month from everyone involved.
Even if they had an array of dedicated servers for each game that price would be a bit of a stretch.
>>336646268
>too stupid to understand how processors are made
What a surprise.
>>336646706
Worm holes and black holes make light its bitch
>>336651379
>not having them ever go slow
>>336658590
If I thought it was reasonable, I would not have said;
>I absolutely loathe them charging for multiplayer
Saying that you are paying them for something that is already yours is ignorant.
>>336646268
>paying $50+ to gaben for literally nothing
>>336658696
>Worm holes and black holes make light its bitch
wrong analogy.
the object that moves through a wormhole still can't go faster than light, it just goes through a doorwa.
>>336658425
bitcoin doesn't use servers to process transactions. It outsources that work to whoever wants to do it, and pays them a tiny, tiny amount for each transaction they process. The faster your computer(s) can process them, the more you can make.
>>336658997
Worm hole always win
>>336659047
Do you still need a setup built specifically for mining just to not lose money on electricity?
>>336656773
>I absolutely loathe them charging for multiplayer and think there is no defense for it.
Games with gold. Sometimes they are utter shit, and most of the time they try to goad you into buying the dlc, but for fucks sake, it doesn't just give you access to multiplayer.
>>336646494
>AMD to BTFO Intel
lol
I'm searching for my new pc right now, should I buy a haswell cpu or skylake? t-thanks...
>>336649207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm67wbB5GmI
I know you're baiting, but finding this video only gives me an excuse to watch it again.
>>336659205
Don't even try to use M$ as a role model. They only did Games for Gold to combat PS+. So in other words you have Sony to thank for those free games. You have M$ to thank for the paid multiplayer. Sony definitely isn't full of saints, but paid multiplayer was something they were forced into due to M$'s success with it. If anything, M$ should have copied Sony in its entirety. As in make multiplayer free and offer additional services like GwG for a fee. That was the perfect solution. Now with PS+ being mandatory for multiplayer, both systems no longer offer the value PS+ originally offered.
>>336653903
Can I hug you?
>>336659703
>Sony was FORCED into paid multiplayer by big bad MS
Just stop. They happily jumped on it because they saw the mad money they could be making.
>>336659703
>both systems no longer offer the value PS+ originally offered.
Live went out for a week, because people were mad and they needed to fix it, lest they lose paying customers. When PSwhateverthefuck went out, it went out for months on end, because no one fucking paid for anything.
And $60 a year on top of paying for internet, the console, games, new controllers every year, etc is negligible. Amazon fucking prime is over a hundred dollars, and from your point of view I guess all it does is speed up your shipping that is already free and gives you access to a shittier version netflix.
>>336658997
>cant go faster then light
what do you think give subatomic particuls the ability to be anywhere?
>>336657432
Perfect time for consoles to release hardware each year for normies to buy up now that we've broken Moore's law.
At least until little Pajur from MIT figures out how to make cheap consumer quantum processors.
dat I7
>>336660476
>mac
>those graphics
LMAO
>>336660543
I bought it for my girlfriend she owns her own photography biz..
>>336660598
do you hate your gf or something
>>336660693
she said she liked using the macs that the college had on hand started with a macbook pro and we both liked it so we upgraded. Led screen is very nice & BRIGHT. We live in an apartment so the slim design save alot of space. It's whisper quite, 2Tb hdd & a 500gb solid state. the comp is a good bang for the buck you couldnt build it for what i paid..
>>336649921
It get even worst when scientists found a way to make cheap as fuck industrial diamonds for drilling operations.
>>336660914
>she said she liked using macs
so she's retarded? I'm sorry for your lots
>>336655579
Intel retail edge. It' the price retailers pay for their CoreI5 and 7.
>>336661264
A little premium is worth if for cutting edge software and finest aesthetics on the market.
>>336661264
she makes good money and finished college can't be all that dumb.
>>336660164
Xbox live has been down plenty of times, just like PSN.
>Amazon fucking prime is over a hundred dollars, and from your point of view I guess all it does is speed up your shipping that is already free and gives you access to a shittier version netflix.
What else does it do?
>>336661389
fucking rekt thanks m8
>>336661389
>cutting edge software and the finest aesthetics on the market
>>336661516
Oh please. Winfags keep begging for OSX software the same way they beg for console games. And the same way, they only get it years later.
AMD is leasing it's opteron designs to chinese companies so hopefully that'll bring some competition and lower prices.
>>336661516
MUH GAEMS. We use the computer to make money and it needs to be reliable. the imac is slim and packs a punch you people can be so shot sometimes.
>>336661423
>Xbox live has been down plenty of times, just like PSN.
Yes, but not for the extensive length that PSN has been down for.
>>336646268
This isnt 1950 $300 isn't shit.
>>336646268
only retards spend on this shit.
you should be fine with a quad or i3
actaully, you can have cheap motherboard, cheap ram, cheap CPU and cheap everything, the only thing that matters is GPU, and probably a SDD if you want short loading times.
almost half of your budget for a PC should be the GPU
>>336661718
Pretty much, there aren't even that many games where a difference between i3 and i5 is noticeable. Though the latter is better if you're into overclocking.
>>336659703
>both systems no longer offer the value PS+ originally offered.
What does that mean considering it now offers more?
>>336656773
>The fee on the console is to access THEIR infrastructure which is separate from your ISP's.
99% of all console games are peer to peer lmao idoit 10/10 I replied
>>336662609
I didn't think EA sold 99% of all console games.
>>336661663
PSN's extensive outage was for being hacked and credit card numbers being compromised. If you don't think that it could have just as easily been M$ with a coin toss, you are foolish. There isn't a such thing as a secure network. Either way, NEITHER network should be charging for multiplayer. Both of them should be charging for additional services such as GwG, unless they want to up the ante with at least dedicated servers.
>>336662295
The cost and "quality" of the games are lower than they were before. Note I'm using quality loosely since some people love 2 hr long indie games.
>>336662609
Do you go and ask people for their IP address to play games with them? No. You are matched through Sony's hardware.
