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>everything there is to see and do in this game can be done in 6 hours
welp...
>>336633775
Basically this. The game feels really shallow.
>>336633896
You mean like most FPS games? Come the fuck on /v/, you can't seriously be nitpicking this hard now.
>You're only supposedt to experience everything in a multiplayer game once
THIS is how much characters the game SHOULD launch with
>>336633980
/v/ is filled with insecure Valvedrones who are mad that TF2 is going to be usurped as the king of class based shooters.
They have been spreading FUD about Overwatch for years.
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>>336634142
>overwatch
>better than TF2
give me a break
>>336634142
>>336634276
I wouldn't go that far. It's more like comparing League to Dota. They're both good (to moba players) in their own right and just have some differences. There is no better than the other, only differences and personal taste.
Hours? I felt like I'd seen all there was to see and experience in about 1 hour.
One shots galore, easy/no aiming require, laughable class balance. Only a few of the class's actually thought out and thus actually play well unlike the majority.
>>336634276
GET
>>336633980
>You mean like most FPS games?
Seems like you never played Counter Strike, Battlefield or Tribes.
>>336634142
>TF2 is going to be usurped as the king of class based shooters.
Yeah, nah. The game's a clusterfuck, you can't even tell who's on what team because there's no team coloration.
>>336634803
>most
>>336634818
>you can't even tell who's on what team because there's no team coloration.
This.
Also no mods in Overwatch will kill the casual community. And the awful tick rate will smoother it's esport scene in the crib. There is almost no content and yet Blizzard has the nerve to ask full price for it.
Nigger, I'm having fun. Exaggeration aside, I played for about 4 hours non-stop and only managed to get 2 things max from the characters. And it wasn't even for half the roster.
>>336634884
Most FPS are more complex than Overwatch. Blizzard literally made a game with babies in mind.
>>336634803
>this game
>somehow more shallow than CSGO
Explain. You're wrong but you can try.
>>336634142
What TF2 has:
>a literal 9 years of development
>another 6 years of 100% free DLC support
>the third most-played concurrently played Steam game even now
>unique art direction that still inspires rip-offs a decade later
>distinct classes that have been tweaked and balanced on every level, right down to their silhouettes and color palettes
>a variety of gameplay including hitscan weapons, splash explosives, conkjumping, healing guns, invulnerability boosts, double jumping, disguises and AI turrets
>more gamemodes than pretty much any other multiplayer game or shooter
>a free unlock system that enables sidegrade weapons for each class without having to pay
>the game to innovate a reasonable hat and cosmetic system in F2P PC gaming
>at one point so popular it sold as a standalone $20 after it was release in Orange Box and it STILL sold tons of copies
>has literally sold an additional 100k copies of various games purely because they gave you a TF2 hat
>user submission system that enables fans to make their own maps, hats and guns and possibly get them into the game (and get paid for it)
>teeming with personality both in-game and in ancillary media like comics and character movies, official and unofficial
>set the bar for how class shooters, free games and video games in general should strive to be
What Overwatch has:
>the table scraps of Project Titan
>Neo-Blizzard the Hungering Jew
>a $40 price tag for a twentieth of TF2's content
I haven't played TF2 and two years and I can tell you after an hour in Overwatch the game doesn't even slightly compare to Valve's title.
>>336635405
>being this bad at baiting
>>336635437
>it's a tf2 baby tries to defend his irrelevant, boring, slow-paced, outdated hat collection simulator because he spent so much money on it episode
Overwatch is gonna be huge and it's probably the most complex shooter on the market. There are 21 distinct classes and they all counter different ones.
>>336635437
>>the game to innovate a reasonable hat and cosmetic system in F2P PC gaming
I think Battlefield Heroes had this first.
>>336635405
average round in counter-strike has five people coordinating toward a site, watching corners, calling out enemy players when they spot them, considering the weapon they have, smoking and/or flashing, managing spray, managing how they move, scavenging the enemy's corpse and continuing to communicate while they either prevent a bomb plant, plant a bomb or try to defuse a bomb
an average round in overwatch has me running out into a crowd of enemies, spamming my cooldowns and getting killed by a robot turrent
>>336635606
Overwatch is fucking shallow as hell, and it especially fails as an arena shooter with how dumbed down the movement mechanics are compared to the other games of its genre.
>tfw all these Overwatch threads are doing is making me want to play TF2 again
Guess I'm reinstalling.
>Blizzard game
>Shallow as fuck gameplay
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>>336635606
>Overwatch is gonna be huge and it's probably the most complex shooter on the market.
Overwatch is going to be huge because it's a babydick spamalot party shooter guaranteed to sell because Blizzard fans should be legally categorized as a religion.
>>336635741
What's with this stale bait?
>>336635606
Overwatch is much more slow-paced than TF2.
>>336633775
we /v/iral nao
>>336635405
Nigger, CSGO has fucking mod tools.
I can bet my left nut that Overwatch won't.
>>336635662
Battlefield Heroes had you fucking RENT ITEMS.
Not buy them. Rent them.
Fuck Battlefield Heroes.
>>336633775
Game is fun, but it's the sort of game I'd play for a day or two after buying it and then just never touch it again. Which pretty much applies to every multiplayer heavy FPS game I've ever played to be fair.
Maybe if it had like 100 different characters like that one picture released ages ago showed it'd last longer than a day or two, but as it is now, I'm not particularly in any rush to play the game again tomorrow.
>the most mobile class can rocket jump once
Fucking Kek
>>336635946
Overwatch is mathematically proven to be faster than TF2. Please stop posting.
>>336636017
The game was fine but the system sucked.
Although now that I think of it, I think it was Nexon the ones who invented that system.
>>336636073
>faster than TF2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAEOiIF8Piw
>>336633980
Yes, like most garbage f2p korean fps with cash shop.
>>336636073
I'm sure the numbers are much like your post
imaginary
>>336636073
>mathematically proven
Are you brain dead?
Overwatch is the new Evolve.
They even fucked up in the EXACT SAME WAY by making it a full-price-game.
It's not fully imbalanced but some characters are just way to powerful, the games maps are interesting and fun but honestly that's it, there is no player progression so the quick burst games are fine, but for 40 it's not that worth it. Characters are different but not unique, the game was hyped for its amazing style and innovative gameplay, but it's shallow and uninteresting
>>336636292
Full price -$20
>>336636292
>$40
^full price
It's not an arena shooter if 99% of combat takes place on the ground
It's not an arena shooter if a majority of classes can't conkjump
It's not an arena shooter if every character moves at the speed of honey
It's not an arena shooter if you can't hop around between armor and health spawns
It's not an arena shooter if the game has a lower tick rate than your average house cat
PLEASE stop misuing this term, faggot Blizzdrones holy FUCK do I wish you would drown in Blizzcum
>>336636292
naw.
>>336636424
>>336636428
40 dollars is still too much for this piece of shit
>12 maps across 3&1/2 game modes
>>336636424
>>336636428
Still far too high.
>>336636393
> the games maps are interesting and fun
>>336633775
It's fun, and will continue to be fun as online experiences may
V A R Y
>>336636073
Yeah and it's mathmatically proven that you can jump to the first platform in the mario 64 wing hat level in 2.5 A presses. What's your point?
>>336636424
>no one on neo-/v/ remembers when the full price for PC games was 50 bucks
>>336636428
$40 is about normal price for a PC game. It's not until very recently with huge budget AAA games has $60 even been a price for PC games.
Honest, unbiased, perfectly true review of Overwatch™ here by an impartial anon
>it's more like MNC than TF2
>everybody and their mother has played TF2 to death anyways, it's been out for nine years now
>it's basically a MOBA but that's OK because it's fun
>you can still play TF2, neither game is going anywhere for a while.
>>336633775
it's a multiplayer fps not an rpg, you play to compete
>>336636754
>blizzard games
>longevity
funniest post in this thread
>>336634538
>Implying dota isn't objectively better
>>336634071
>Picture has 21 characters
>Game has 21 characters
>>336636558
Who's calling OW an arena shooter? It's a team shooter like TF2.
>>336635695
This right here
Not to mention you have to also get into the minds of the enemy to know how and where they are going to play against you. But that is from a competitive stand point on csgo, the next thing would be to ask if overwatch has a competitive scene and i can say after playing this game for 10 hours, i have no desire to git gud at this run and gun game
>>336636754
>it's basically a MOBA
Battleborn is a MOBA because it has level ups and tower defense elements.
Overwatch doesn't have that. It's just a TF2 paintjob.
>12 maps that feel the same
>glowing HUD shit everywhere at all times
>no mod support
>tick rate is laughably small
>art design is crap so everything has to glow and have little bars or names or arrows over it
>most characters have a PRESS Q TO WIPE OUT THE ROOM ability
>>336636754
>it's more like MNC
this, and MSNBC died a miserable lonely death so there should be no confusion as to where overwatch is headed
>>336635070
>Full price
$40 is good for a AAA title. Now is probably the part where you debate what AAA means or something. The point is that even without mod support its clear they plan to add content like they do with all their other games. Comparing a game that has been out for nearly a decade to something day one in terms of content is weak.
>>336637005
>Now is probably the part where you debate what AAA means or something.
It's an excuse to charge full price for a game that has very little in it.
>>336636887
>RNG out of the ass
>cyka blyat huehue
>turn rates
DOTA2 is literal shit.
It really doesn't feel like there's much of a skill ceiling in this game. It all feels like everything is waiting up to build up your ultimate and then watching "awesome" happen.
In TF2 when you did extremely well it felt well earned. In Overwatch it just feels expected.
I think there's some cool ideas in it though, Tracer is fun.
Its a shit game.
No skill needed, just press Q to win.
Only good for porn.
>>336637154
>cant zip vertically
>laserguns do less impact than scattergun
>it's actually possible to kill her during E because of how hit detection works
>>336633775
>>336636975
>this, and MSNBC died a miserable lonely death so there should be no confusion as to where overwatch is headed
It will eventually go F2P and so a few Blizzdrones will keep it alive, just like HotS.
>>336637154
it's based around rewarding everyone
you don't want people to feel like they're bad players, it's why sneezing on someone gives you an elimination/killstreak popup.
press a button and something awesome happens
From a perspective of someone who has only played Overwatch and TF2 roughly a day each I like Overwatch more so far. Obviously TF2 has more content built up over time, but the smoothness of control and movement feel nicer in Overwatch. I also love the way they let you set mouse/keybinds per character. I also like the diversity of characters more. In TF2 its like you have one tank and one healer style guy as opposed to 3-4 and more will be added unlike TF2. I think TF2 may have a higher skill ceiling on some characters though like Spy, Demo, and Soldier depending on how you build them. Overall I like the gear choices in TF2 (but wish they had not done so many silly cosmetics), but I like the class selection in Overwatch more.
>>336637005
40 buckaroos is not a good price for a multiplayer-only shooter with very little content
>>336635695
I wonder what the fucking difference is you shitter.
>>336634071
>>336633775
I WANT A MERCY GF
>>336637381
Depends how quickly they add maps. I'd consider waiting if content quantity is an issue. Right now I would agree that the maps are too linear and there are too many choke points, which lends itself to specific team comps almost always having an advantage.
>>336636674
Maps doesn't save the gameplay, I should probably say they are more vibrant and diverse
>>336637381
Eh, better than the $100 that turtle rock was trying to pull with their multiplayer-only shooter with so little content. But considering Blizzard rakes in like a billion dollars a month with WoW you'd expect them to put in more effort with so much money available for use.
>>336635850
What's your rank in CS:GO?
>>336635861
>if you disagree with me its just bait
what is delusion
>>336637640
After the mass derank I'm currently MG2. I haven't played since.
What the fuck does that have to do with Overwatch being casual garbage?
>>336637587
A company like Blizzard does the bare minimum they know they can get away with because they have a fanbase who will buy their products no matter what (See: the remaining 5m WoW players who would buy Legion even if Blizzard literally called them retards to their faces for doing so)
>>336637005
I feel like I have gotten everything I am going to get in the time I have played this game so unless Blizzard is gonna do an overhaul on the game play, which they definitely will not do, then I think I'll be done with this game after May 9th. So in all actuality, Blizzard just gave out a free game.
>>336633775
>Six hours
Two hours. Three tops.
>>336634803
>counterstrike
Once you've defused a bomb, rescued a hostage, killed a hostage, killed a chicken, and killed another, you've done everything there is to do in the game. That's 20 minutes of gameplay, tops, and only because it requires a map change to defuse a bomb.
>>336637587
>But considering Blizzard rakes in like a billion dollars a month with WoW you'd expect them to put in more effort with so much money available for use.
If WoW taught Blizzard anything, it's how to do nothing and still get paid for it. Or more accurately, do nothing and then have the art team work overtime to gussy it up before release.
>>336637870
>implying you can get an ace, master the AK spray pattern, juke a defuse, buy 5 autos, make someone rage about the autoshotgun and kill someone with a molotov in one match
>>336633775
Same can be said about TF2
Yet I played it for around 7 years.
>>336637587
>you'd expect them to put in more effort with so much money available for use.
Why in the fuck would you ever expect that when Hearthstone, their lowest effort game yet, is one of their most successful?
Wow, I didn't know the TF2 fans would be so salty.
Nitpicking, downplaying of good points and exaggeration of the bad parts. Game hasn't even come out yet and they're comparing it to a veteran.
It is a good game, don't be an asshole.
>>336638106
>he can't do all of those in one match
What's it like being a huge fucking casual?
>shallow game play
This a new meme?
>>336637834
I think FPS are just not for you my man.
>thought the tf2 fans hating overwatch was some strawman
>come to this thread
>its actually tf2 players complaining.
I would have thought people that appreciated class based shooters would be down for some new lifeblood in the genre.
They're wildly different games in execution, what the fuck is wrong with playing more than one video game?
>>336638570
yeah, go tell it to your grandmum on facebook
>>336636292
Its 40 bucks mate.
wait, what was the price of TF2?I bought it with the orangebox so I don't know the full retail price.
>>336638679
TF2 actually had care and effort put into it. Overwatch plays like a F2P rip-off like Monday Night Combat. Did you enjoy Monday Night Combat?
>>336633775
>cs go
>people only play 1 map, like 5 weapons, on 1 game mode, over and over again, for years
>>336634276
Overwatch wipes the floor with tf2 in every way imaginable. Overwatch is the best class based team shooter ever made. It takes somebody incredibly dense, wilfully deluded or just plain mentally ill not to see this. The game will be massive
>>336638687
Twenty bucks, I think?
But by the time it was sold alone they'd released a bunch of free updates for it.
>>336638840
>Overwatch is the best class based team shooter ever made.
Game hasn't even come out yet. Calm down, it is good but not that good.
>>336638771
kill yourself my man
>>336635437
>What TF2 has
>random critical hits
>>336638771
>TF2 actually had care and effort put into it
had, maybe. now it's just to sell hats and they force in every weapon they can come up with to mathematically have more chances to sell something. it threw off game balance.
>all these 3rd world Russians and brazillians who hate on Overwatch because they can't afford it
lmfao
Its a fucking FPS, what the hell were you expecting?
>>336638486
Hi marketer
>>336638771
I don't see how you can quantify "care" though.
It feels like a plea towards nostalgia, or clawing for a comfort zone.
Overwatch isn't going to steal TF2 from anybody, TF2 still exists, all the hours I played still exist, all the fun I had and still have with it still exists.
Why are people acting like a video game personally offended them.
>>336638679
i don't particularly like either anymore, but it feels like the skill ceiling in overwatch is worringly close to the floor - exceptionally skilled players can get run over by retards due to it being a infinite ammo spamfest.
maybe that's why everyone is complaining, there's not a ton of raw outplaying you can do, it's mostly in what you pick, or at least that's what it feels like. a lot of the people complaining are likely used to being able to steamroll entire public servers entirely on their ability to outdm everyone, and you can't really do that in overwatch.
>>336638771
Key word there being "had". It's a laden whore of its past self that's just out to sell hats nowadays.
>>336638840
Obvious paid shill
>shooting isn't fun
>movement only on a few characters
glad for the open beta though, was fun for some time
>>336639024
>all the complaints started pouring in when it left closed beta and everyone could play it
Hmmm
>>336638929
Can you name a better one? It's even the best FPS in general I've played second only to quake and counter strike
>>336638771
I actually enjoyed MNC as something different. Didn't play as much if it as I did TF2 but it was an interesting take on an ASSFAGGOTS/Team shooter hybrid.
>>336637291
psh, nothing personnel kid
>>336637587
Evolve had a lot more content than Overwatch. It was also a more original idea.
>>336639071
Infinite ammo isn't overpowered dude. If anything it's necessary because it would make all the melee characters overpowered if all the shooters had a finite amount of ammo. Even if you're using a splash damage character to spam rockets at an objective, there's always the potential of a tracer running up behind you, or a widowmaker sniping you. Blizz is trying to make an all fun no stress game. Ammo conservation would not be fun in this type of game.
>>336633980
I've got +200 hours on BF4 and I'm STILL unlocking all sorts of shit.
Attachments
Weapons
Skins
Dog Tags
What do I have to look forward to in this game?
A couple of skins and victory poses.
>>336639360
yeah, god forbid people have to manage ammo or use ammo boxes like a real video game
>>336638385
>Yet I played it for around 7 years.
Because it had free content updates for years and full mod support.
>>336639380
>playing games for unlocks
pathetic
>>336639071
This argument is worryingly similar to the "csgo is rng" argument - falls flat instantly when you consider that a tracer with good aim will practically solo an entire pub team with bad to mediocre mechanics. People who argue this sort of stuff are pretty much guaranteed to be whiners with no aim and no feel for fps games in general
>>336639206
Here's a few:
>Team Fortress 2
>Tribes Ascend
>Fortress Forever
>Empires mod
>Red Orchestra 2
>Dirty Bomb (maybe)
![[screams internally].png](https://i.imgur.com/Wwwt9ge.png "[screams internally].png")
>Leveling up gives you loot/cosmetic incentives, has no impact on gameplay
>Each level requires more XP then the last
>>336638687
The Orange Box was $50 on PC
>>336639476
Explain to me how its bad to have a game where it actual feels like you fucking get something for playing?
>>336639380
>I have 1000 hours of unlocking battlepack which have weapon camos and shapes for my avatar
>"what do I have to look forward to in this game? Unlocking skins and tags for 1000 hours?
Literally the exact same shit but its ok if EA does itr apparently
>>336639483
>a tracer with good aim will practically solo an entire pub team with bad to mediocre mechanics.
A good tracer will die immediately when someone sets up a turrent, a piggsy hooks her, a soldier activates his aimbot, an edgemaster taps Q or someone traps/stuns her. All of which are stupidly easy to do in this game.
>>336639360
it's not overpowered, it's just a design issue that i personally feel forces spammy gameplay because there's no reason not to just spam shit everywhere.
most other games i've played have enough ammo to let you spam certain places when required but you can't literally lob projectiles down a hallway endlessly.
>>336639483
you're projecting pretty hard anon.
>>336638840
>Overwatch wipes the floor with tf2 in every way imaginable. Overwatch is the best class based team shooter ever made
Need to try to be less obvious next time my fellow shill.
>>336639595
>Different weapons for different classes in BF4
>Every class has the same weapon in Overwatch, something even TF2 doesn't do.
>this fucking thread
Post 9/11 babies are cancer.
>BAAAAW MY UNLOCKS
>BAAAAW WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR A GAME
>>336633775
What is a single multiplayer shooter where everything can't be seen and done in 6 hours? Unlocks you grind for don't count.
>>336639380
>amount of unlocks=quality
If anything, BF4 is an argument for the opposite
>>336639567
because if you're playing for a "you did it" rather than for the gameplay, you're dumb as hell just sayin
>>336639206
>an you name a better one?
Battlefront 2
Team Fortress 2
Bad Company 2
>>336639518
All mediocre games that are insanely boring to me by comparison desu
>>336639567
the thing you should be looking for in a game isfunand not collectables.
>I can't play without a virtual doggy treat hanging in front of my face
>>336633980
>You mean like most FPS games?
Learning how to properly utilize the map and use weirder weapons at top speed takes time. Overwatch is the shallow of the shallow. It's the Final Fantasy of FPS games.
>>336639750
Compared to shit like CS:GO where all you get for playing is a stupid rank and MAYBE a shitty 3 cent skin?
>>336639380
>the fact that you still have over 200 hours and still don't have access to all the content is somehow a good thing
what the fuck is wrong with you people?
>>336638840
>there are still people playing Wow to this day
>these same people type of people will cling to tf2 to the very end
Same shit is happening to mmos that is happening to class based shooters because of these retarded ass fans
>>336639198
There were complains before.
Nice attention span.
Its all the same, low skill ceiling, slow gameplay, low skill high reward.
It will be a hit with casual players.
>Overwatch takes skill to play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqwepATv6nIAlso r8 my ebin plays
>>336638840
>Overwatch is the best class based team shooter ever made.
t. I've never played other shooters and came from WoW or FFXIV.
>>336639895
>Grapple hook
That's a mod, right?
>>336639826
>Collectables aren't fun to get
>M-muh pure gameplay over customization and content
>>336639973
its a new official mode
>>336639698
>everyone in overwatch uses the same weapon
enjoy being a salty poorfag anon youre not worth my time
>>336639895
You also can't do that in a normal match of TF2. Which is good, because giving everyone the grappling hook would be cancer.
>>336639973
>being this much of an ignoramus
>>336639629
A good tracer can avoid all that shit. Her E can get her out of almost any dangerous situation. She can teleport 3 times in a row. She can burst someone down in a second. All this at the disadvantage of being squishy. Tracer is a skill character because if you have insane reflexes, you're literally nearly invincible, but if you have average reflexes you'll get fucked up.
>>336640043
Learn to read retard.
>>336639965
>picking a literal shit game that's only praised because it was free when most good games were p2p
>>336639895
they need to make another mode that uses those hooks
>>336639975
yes, gameplay is the most important part in a game imo
>>336639975
that's his entire point yes
if the core gameplay is good you shouldn't need shinies telling you how great and amazing you are for playing a game
>>336635741
>movement mechanics suck compared to other games in its genre
nigga what
have you been playing too much road hog again?
each character has a crazy different method of movement, TF2's only difference is that the solder can rocket jump.
>>336640182
>>336640221
It's impossible to have both gameplay and content?
>>336639629
A good tracer doesn't get owned by any of the shit you listed because you can run rings around pubs, kill pigs after dodging one hook with two clips and solder/reaper ults are two of the most easily telegraphed and easily outplayed or avoided abilities in the entire game. You probably also think that bastion is a strong pick and widowmaker's ult is balanced
>>336636186
there is zero skill based movement in Overwatch
Most games have some kind of explosive jumping, bunny hopping, or trick jumps. Overwatch has auto shit.
>>336640303
>dodge
>20 tick
>>336640165
>ET
>literal shit
>likes Overwatch
Blizzdrones are the retard kings.
>>336640237
TF2 has the Scout, Demo and Solider with much more advanced movement skill.
Titanfall and Black Ops 3 have wall running.
Quake 3 had bunny hopping and rocket jumping.
Tribes: Ascend had surfing but then it died.
>>336640271
no
but saying
>dis game sucks i don't get a virtual "good boy" every hour
is stupid af
>>336638840
Holy fucking shill
>>336636706
>was
You said it yourself
>>336640363
>le tick meme
go back to CS:GO
>>336640271
content shouldn't be considered something like gachaboxes and levelling/currency system for reskins that are entirely designed to keep you playing in lieu of interesting gameplay - it should be things that add to the actual gameplay.
and yes, i am aware overwatch has maps and characters before you sperg out.
>>336638840
This is b8.
>>336640405
Holy shit I just realized CoD has better movement than OW. Lucios fucking wall running is baby mode and there isn't any tricky jumps you need to pull off.
>>336639380
this is bait
>>336640401
ET is shit compared with the vast majority of online shooters out there. There is a good reason why it's deader than dead.
>>336638785
>>336639705
You see, this is what I'm talking about. These guys get it. The depth doesn't come from unlocks. It comes from teamwork, skill, and mechanics
>>336634071
when will we get hazmat suit man, generic man wearing cap, and feminine robot between tracer and mercy?
post Mei
Reminder that this is the SALTIEST /v/ has EVER BEEN over a single good video game.
Watching this shitstorm is hilarious.
I dunno, TF2 for gameplay/hats, Overwatch for character choice/porn.
>>336640481
>it should be things that add to the actual gameplay.
says who
cosmetics are a perfect way of adding extra content while keeping game balance the same
>>336639801
How much does shilling pay?
>all other games are shit guys just buy it xD
>>336639292
*unzips katana*
>>336639889
plenty of good games don't have cosmetics or any kind of unlocking metagame at all.
>>336640691
>SALTIEST
wait that's not what that word means
>>336640691
>>336640564
ET is still very active despite Splash Damage pushing for Dirty Bomb. Have you even played the game? The only problem is punkbuster and a few retards.
>game finally has open beta
>everyones bored of it
Game lacks technical satisfaction. Every match is just a bunch of random shit flying and spamming.
>tf2babs afraid their spotlight is getting stolen
Come the fuck on you're comparing 2d to 3d
Overwatch will be a hit and the only thing you can do about it is not buy it
>>336640838
Yeah, it is.
Almost all of /v/ is raging and screaming and crying over this game. They're all salty as fuck.
>>336633775
In 12 seconds, its a third person MOBA, the fuck did you expect? Playtime doesn't come out of new content, it comes from multiplayer.
Why the fuck do you think call of duty, DOTA, and rest of that PVE-centric shit is so profitable?
>>336638840
Overwatch is better than Launch TF2 but not better than modern TF2, even with the hat nonsense considered
>>336640945
>raging and screaming and crying
wowow I think you're taking those posts a bit too serious famalalalam
>Everyone just using buzzwords and not real arguments
You can tell who didnt even play it
>>336640858
>Have you even played the game?
Yes and it was very dead.
>>336640935
You can't call someone a baby when they're older and mature than you. Overwatch is the special ed game.
>>336641027
>we're all just pretending to be salty over this game!
>we were just pretending to spend hours of our lives posting about how we don't like video game and that no one else should like it since I don't like it!
Go wash your face, all those tears will dirty it.
>>336639943
>Playing as D.Va
You are my nigger, I have just way too much fun with her.
>>336633775
Same could be said for TF2, but here we are 10 fucking years later.
Why buy Overwatch when porn is free? Why buy Overwatch for hours of gameplay when you have TF2?
>>336640908
This.
All I can say about Overwatch is it really makes me appreciate TF2 so much more, for all I shit on that game it's lightyears ahead in terms of balance.
Why are people so fucking terrified of standing on objectives?
Why the fuck is /v/ defending TF2 so fucking much? as it if were their last chance to fucking shitpost on this game... its literally pathetic
I have yet to see a solid argument on why Overwatch isnt a fucking homerun.
>TF2 is better
Was a great game, not better in any way and emphasis on WAS
>Low skill requirement
The game is polished and smooth enough for people understanding it fast. If you rather have a clusterfuck design just to have ''high skills'' then just off your self.
>i have seen everything just on the Beta
On a multiplayer game? what a shock! i am sure there are thousand of multiplayer shooters with 1000 characters and maps and modes.
What other shitposting am i missing?
>>336641118
>hours of our lives
lmao
anyway, remember MGSV? Undertale? dis shit doesn't even have 10 seperate threads up at the same time.
and those games weren't even free
is it just me or does the game feel really "sterile"
like I can't put my finger on it
maybe I'm just way too used to gibs and debris flying everywhere from TF2
Who have you had the most fun with?
Why is /v/ trying so desperately to shit on this game?
>>336639873
>final fantasy isn't deeper than dragon quest
>>336641170
Started playing her because she was cute, kept playing her in the name of Allah.
>>336633775
Don't worry, give this game 3 weeks and it won't be discussed anywhere but /vg/, promise.
There's a reason they're marketing to Taco Bell, which incidentally markets to stoners.
>>336641246
>Overwatch isnt a fucking homerun.
Typical braindead American.
>>336641063
You never played ET because it's alive as fuck right now. How much does Blizzard pay you to straight up lie and shill their shitty game?
>>336641089
You got me dad
Guess im grounded
>>336641246
>Why the fuck is /v/ defending TF2 so fucking much?
Because it's an example of everything Valve did right and highlights what Blizzard did wrong with Overwatch.
So I'll do an honest pro/con from playing just one day
Pro:
>I personally love the smoothness of movement and aiming
>I like the large cast of characters per role
>The ability to set options and binds per character
>Optimized extremely well
>Not P2W
Cons:
>Limited map selection at launch which suffers from linearity and choke points
>Results in certain team comps that win on almost every map
>No sense of progression
>Very few characters that have a higher skill ceiling through a movement mechanic, would prefer more
>>336641310
Because of the megaphone effect.
A few people voice unbridled hatred for anything Blizzard. Others for anything shooter.
And then there are the memers who want to engineer the next TORtanic.
>>336641246
>The game is polished and smooth enough for people understanding it fast. If you rather have a clusterfuck design just to have ''high skills'' then just off your self.
The movement is slow as fuck
>>336641246
The game is just dull as fuck, it's not as satisfying as games like TF2. It all feels random, half the time you die just because some other player happened to be on the right time on their cooldown ability.
>>336641246
>The game is polished and smooth enough for people understanding it fast
You forgot to mention how the UI is utter shit.
>>336641238
I had a match where I was the only one pushing the car in Hollywood.
The enemy team also didn't care about the car, though.
>>336641334
ET was my life for almost a decade, I can tell you right now 70-80% of all those players are just bots
>>336641310
Because MUH JEWZZARD BOOGEYMAN, it's totally le epic to hate on anything Blizzard puts out now.
>>336640750
It's just better, man. It's just more fun. It's well designed, it's fluid, it looks and feels better thanks to its bigger budget than those games in every conceivable way. If you want to retain high skillcap aiming then hanzo or mccree is for you because without aim you'll be dead in the water or a stun bot/wallhack bot at best and lose the majority of your games. The only possible reason to stay with outmoded games like that that I can fathom is im being a part of the existing competitive scene or some shit
>>336641431
>No sense of progression
elaborate
>>336641448
This is the first blizzard game I've ever played. I want to like it but it's so fucking boring.
>>336640405
Overwatch has Tracer, Genji, Phara, Junkrat, Reinhardt , Widowmaker, Hanzo, Mercy, Winston, D.Va.
Blink, Wall climbing, double jump, rocket boost, mine jump, charge, grappling hook, wing gliding, massive jump, and rocket boosters.
Oh but I guess none of those count right? ;^)
>>336635437
At one point, TF2 was one of the greatest games of all time. When Valve ruined it with a million side-grade weapons that you couldn't easily get and flooded the game with terrible cosmetics (which is all anyone ever plays for now), the game died for me.
I'm sure there are still a ton of people playing it, but it lost its magic and won't ever get it back.
>>336641494
Then why is tf2 dead
>>336641494
I can get behind this. I don't like TF2 and only played a few days of it years ago, but I think my biggest issue with Overwatch is just that too much emphasis is placed on your team stacking their ults.
You know what I would like? A game mode without ults.
>>336633775
>everything that can be done in this game can be done in 2 hours
your point?
>>336641448
>And then there are the memers who want to engineer the next TORtanic
It is already TORtanic, Overwatch are just the scraps of Titan, a multi-million MMO that was so terrible that Blizzard had to scrape it completely.
>>336641645
CS go is $15, even less on steam sales
Has TF2's pubs gotten any better with a ton of shitters playing Overwatch
My hope was it for it to sap them away
>>336641590
You just picked every single character who can move anything but the slowest and claimed they are on the same level as the Scout or the Soldier when it comes to skill based movement
Kill yourself.
A cooldown effect that makes you go in a certain direction quickly you can use every ten seconds is not the same as rocket jumping.
>>336641561
No weapon unlocks, no gear unlocks, no stats. Aka tangible things at least. I know some people think thats cancerous though in a competitive setting.
>>336641590
Lucio can wall ride.
>>336634071
But Lucio wasn't even part of Overwatch according to his bio.
Also green haired girl behind Genji is cute CUTE
>>336641547
>still defending Blizzard even though they haven't produced a good game in more than 10 years
Typical Blizzdrone.
>>336641695
Overwatch reminded me why I used to love TF2 so much, I reinstalled it, haven't had a chance to play yet.
Widowmaker is broken
>>336641689
>overwatch has 3x the content
>overwatch costs 3x as much
again, your point?
>>336641689
2x3 = 6 = amount of hours to complete overwatch
15x3 = 45 > 40, the price of overwatch
by your logic I'm actually getting more than I paid for
>>336641460
>Making it fast somehow will make it more skilled.
Prime example of bad design for a game.
>>336641775
So you based your hate on the game with preconceived notions about the company without even trying it out in beta? I hope most of /v/ doesnt do this.
>>336641810
OW doesn't have 3 times the content
>>336641024
Condolences on your terrible taste. Play more overwatch, you'll be glad of it when you "get" it more >>336641024
>>336641689
CS:GO is also older and has stuff to buy in game, so it can be cheaper since dev costs are almost certainly completely covered by now + Keys are still making them money.
>>336641590
>thinks any of those movement abilities take any skill to use
Maybe you should just go back to playing CoD m8.
>>336641726
True, I enjoy that the unlocks mainly seem to be cosmetic so I'm on the flip side of that coin.
>>336638679
Valve cocksuckers are rampant in their blind fanboyism. It has cooled down on /v/ in recent years but anyone who posted on here around 2010 can attest to you how fucking rabid valve fanboys on /v/ were. It seems a few of them are still around and the overwatch threads trigger the fuck out of them since valve has literally nothing other than TF2 going for it now.
>>336641726
unlocks are cancer m8. If you want your progression shit to feel good then go play some RPG. If a game is supposed to be PvP then everyone should be on even ground with all the tools available to everyone.
>>336641639
encouraging teamwork is fine but you can't make a 6v6 MP FPS game in 2016 with MOBA elements that actively punishes solo players
>>336641590
desu the maps don't work all that well with all those different mechanics, and most of those things aren't all that fun to use either.
some things are on cooldown too which really kills the feeling of itand it's all so slow
>>336641610
>Then why is tf2 dead
TF2 is the third most popular game on Steam.
>>336641726
There is some stat tracking
>>336634071
We will get a fire hero, an earth hero, and a water hero. Just like how Mei is an ice (really water!) because blizzard is that uncreative.
>>336641654
Oh look, I found one of the sad people so desperate to be part of something, to leave a mark on the world.
The game is already successful as fuck.
>>336641979
But that anon doesn't personally play it, so it must be dead, anon.
