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>Releasing in the same month as FFXV
>Being this suicidal

Can't wait to see it flop then Atlus realize the only thing they can turn back to as their main series is making a true console SMT game .
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>>336624008
>FFXVfags forgetting which game won the poll
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>Final Fantasy
>In the current year
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Why FF faggots are so insecure they must keep posting about how ff will kick persona ass in sales?
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>>336624125
poll? dude, if you think persona 5 is outselling FFXV youre out of your mind
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P5 looks better
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>FFags on suicide watch
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>SMTfag begging this hard
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>>336624183
>>336624125
Dudes

He's obviously an SMT fag that still buthurt about Atlus ditching them for handhelds.
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>>336624008
Honestly I'm a huge FF fan, and I've played them all multiple times, but Persona looks like the better JRPG at this point. From the demo XXV looks like fucking garbage with the brain dead combat and non-existent strategy. It really isn't fun at all, the story seems decent enough but the gameplay and the cast looks so bland that I have zero hype for this game. Persona 5 on the other hand looks fucking god tier and a lot of people love atlus. Need I remind you that people did not like the 13 series and each flop from FFXIV to the mainline console series flopping hard has hurt their brand. Noone gives a fuck or trust Square Enix to actually make a competent FF game. Not only that it has literally been almost 8 years since the original trailer and announcement for XV, the hype has certainly died down and since the demo was pretty fucking garbage people aren't really excited for it anymore

Persona 5 looks like a masterpiece with an actual logical progression in their own battle system with great graphics and fun gameplay. XV is just a boring piece of shit that doesn't know if it wants to be DMC or an actual JRPG.
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FF is my favorite series. Never played SMT or Persona, gonna start with this one tho. It looks bretty good. Are the games non-connected like Final Fantasy besides all taking place in Japan? Or, do I need to play 1-4 to get the story?
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>>336625393
Persona 2 has some pretty heavy ties to the first game, but Persona 3 was practically a reboot and P4 only had small references and cameos from P3. I expect P5 will be the same.
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>>336625470
So, if I play P2, do I need to play P1 first?
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>>336624008
ff15 is 10 years of polish with shit KH gameplay. I've never played a persona game, but the new trailer was infinitely more interesting than all the shit I've seen for ff15
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>>336624008
I would sooner buy P5. I've seen enough of FF15 to know how mediocre it will be. I've been waiting for it for a fucking decade. I've lost all excitement for it.

I would even buy a PS4 for P5.
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>>336626107
Probably. But no one has played them, so no one knows. Persona started at 3.
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>>336626542
This. Final Fantasy has been my favorite series since I played FFVII back in 2000. Since then, I've played every game in the series, and liked most of em (even XIII), but XV looks like shit. I'll be picking P5 up as my first Persona game because it looks so much more interesting than XV.
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WHAT IS THIS SEPTEMBER JAP RELEASE SHIT WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT JAPS ATLUS YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKERS WHEN IS WESTERN RELEASE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>336626542
>ff15 is 10 years of polish with shit KH gameplay.
If only. Kingdom Hearts has much better gameplay. FFXV is Kingdom Hearts designed by an old man who can't remember where the buttons on the controller are.
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>>336626854
Wat
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>>336626710
Just stop baiting. We all knew it was gonna be Jap release announced only. And that's good enough, because it means no more delays and no more pussyfooting around. The Western release date announcement is imminent. At E3, it seems.
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>>336624008
>SMTfaging thus hard

Face it, even if by some goddamm miracle this fails in any way, all that would do it make Atlus even more reluctant to try risks.

You're Atlus' secondary now who failed so hard to impress your daddy that his other son surpassed every expectation based on sales, ratings, quality, popularity, revenue, all beyond his wildest dreams, to the point where the only place you can find recognition is a back alley imageboard with like minded failures. It's about time you realise this.
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>>336624008
reminder that squeenix are literally at the point where they have to tell the fans that if they don't buy their game the can't make any more
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>still no western release date

I fucking bet it will be Q2 2017.

Also if you're not looking forward to both games, you should kill yourself.
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>>336626775
I'm amazed that this is being made by the same team that did KH1 and 2, did they forget how to make a decent combat system?
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>>336627662
I think the new director dumbed it down. I know Nomura wanted character switching mid-battle and lots more depth.
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>>336627597

this

>>336627662
>wahh why cant this gmae copy another game

kys
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>>336627787
I didn't say they should literally just copy paste Kingdom Hearts combat, but they've shown they can do better than this hold the button to attack bullshit.
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>>336627772

>dumbing down and already dumbed down action combat

wat


>Nomura wanted

he just couldn't make it work with luminous so he used it for 7R in UE
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>>336627945

you don't have to hold it to attack

in fact timing hits brings out different combos

holding the button is just there for people who want to play it that way
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>>336627787
>kys
Leave
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>>336628102
>you don't have to hold it to attack
You can mash the button as well, I know, but it's clearly designed around being held. It plays out like one continuous animation and you don't feel like it's 1:1 with you pressing the button and Noctis swinging the sword.
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>>336624125
>thinking a limited online poll is a legitimate representative sample without bias
FF has much greater global appeal and this is coming from a personafag. There's a much greater silent majority into FF than megaten. The only thing P5 has going for it is a PS3 version.
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>>336627787
>kys
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>>336628442
No, it's designed to cover their bases. Maybe the higher ups were afraid of this game being alienating to casuals and new comers to action RPGs, so they including the hold button feature. But the more hardcore players will smash buttons. Now this game, may be on the lowest end of hardcore action RPG but it's not as casual as you think.

It doesn't feel continuous probably because of technical problems that could be fixed by the release. Also, Noctis is summoning a sword than hitting, he's not using weapons that are already in his hand. Perhaps this is an intended weakness of the combat to counter the strength of weapon summons and teleportation.
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>>336628765

>thinks people watch shit like dunkey to feel superior

the person who made or posts this is just parodying himself
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>>336624008
>Releasing in the same month as FFXV

It's releasing before XV in Japan, and Japs are looking forward to this game more than XV. I'd say XV is in trouble here.

XV will sell more globally in the end though.
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My question is what Persona 5's budget is looking like. FFXV became so bloated over the course of ten years that it would have to outsell FFVII just to break even, so unless Atlus made some seriously questionable decisions, they'll have a much easier time actually making a profit off of their game, even if it doesn't sell as many copies.
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>>336624164
>HOMO's rule

Is that an edit?
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After the last trailer I feel like Persona 5 is going to be very similar to P4, with a drastically improved engine of course. The characters are similar to P4's crew, even the boxart composition mimic the original P4.
People wo played P4 and/or Golden will be comfortable with P5, it doesn't takes many risks.

On the other hand FFXV has been constantly delayed, it switched directors and the combat system wasn't actually properly thought out a year before release. It's a risky game but it feels like a mess.

Also don't underestimate the power of basement otaku in Japan. Those are the people wo owns PS4 right now and they are pretty angry over SE for catering to the West and for the all-male party.
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>>336631174
If P5 sells two million copies it's a massive success.

If FFXV sells seven million copies it's disappointing.
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>>336624008
>Thinking FFXV is a threat with that janky combat system.
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>>336631323
Didn't stop Witcher 3 from becoming the next Skyrim.
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>>336631282
This!
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>>336626542
It doesn't even have KH gameplay. I tried the demo and I can't combo lights and heavies for shit.
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>>336631282
yes. it normally says No Mo' Rules
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>>336624008
Fucking sure you retarded 5 year old.
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>>336624008
>People still post my wallpaper
Cool shit. Anyone have anything else P5 the need turned into a wallpaper?
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>>336631323
>Implying that matters
FF is like the CoD of JRPGs, releasing yours close to it really is a bad move.
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P4 golden sold nearly two millions on the Vita.

Persona 5 is going to have Sega's biggest marketing budget ever, and with Ps3 AND Ps4 install bases, I think it has a chance against FFXV. XIII-2 and LR sold terribly.
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>>336631473
Yeah, between the two folks will probably pick FF.\

Despite how 13 went.

Before going to watch the new Transformers.
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>>336631290
when was ffxv delayed it never had a release date or year in fact ?
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>>336630738
Considering how much more money went into development and advertising, FFXV had better have more global sales. They made a fucking movie and an anime tie in.
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>>336631315

You're an idiot.
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>>336631591
Western normies will pick FF, but this is just the Japanese release date and Japs are looking forward to P5 more than they are FFXV.
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>>336631591
13 sold more then the entire persona franchise even 13-2 sold more then p4 and p4g combined kinda sad baka desu
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>>336631632
>They made a movie and anime.
>for FFXV

Stop! If I laugh any harder, I might die!
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I love it. Seeing another JRPG gaining popularity and going for the throat against the biggest Final Fantasy ever is ballsy as hell.
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>>336631683
My statement is accurate.

>>336631724
Yes, a full length full CG movie with Hollywood actors voicing characters who will have different voice actors in the game itself.
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>>336631632

Sony would've funded the movie, and the anime is the same shit studio they use for every other pointless vidya related anime like DMC.

Its cheap shit.
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>>336627597
>I fucking bet it will be Q2 2017.

What are we going to do? Those Japs are fucking bastards, they'll have it spoiled within the week.

I don't know if I can hold off /v/ for like 6 months... Dammit...
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>>336631707
>Japs are looking forward to P5 more than they are FFXV.
Source?
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>>336631816

No it is not accurate.

It's just random numbers you pulled out of your ass.
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>>336631713
People thought 13 was going to be good. P4's popularity was a slow burn, to my knowledge.

>>336631816
I guess Squeenix felt one time going bankrupt over a movie wasn't enough.
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>SMT4 Final is a literal rehash
>#FE is a game so Japanese even Japan hated the fuck out of it

>Persona 5 changes up the entire Persona formul
>incredible new UI elements
>supreme graphics
>going back to darker roots
>HD demon models(NOT 2D SPRITES)

Nintendo BTFO AGAIN
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>>336631951
2 million would be over twice the record sales for Atlus as a company.

7 million is around how much FFXIII sold. Square would want more sales for a game coming out 7 years later with a higher budget.

The numbers are sound estimates. You are a fanboy.
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>>336631973
>going bankrupt
see
>>336631838

Be less retarded.
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>>336631973
point stands the whole premise of FFXV/FFvs13 was it was the opposite of 13 and people liked it more then 13 when they were revealed at the same time this game will sell more in japan and america .
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Persona is a series rapidly growing, red hot and more popular than ever.

Finla Fantasy is a series with a tarnished reputation after a terrible trilogy whose final game sold less than a port of a PS2 RPG to the Vita.

This is a great move by Sega. They're going all-out. Can you imagine the headlines if they manage to at least go toe-to-toe against FF XV?
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I seriously don't understand why people can't just buy both games. What I don't understand even more is since this seems to be a set in stone rule to the consumers why they would release the two games almost simultaneously.
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>>336624008
I'm honestly buying it over FFXV, though I'll still try getting XV soon after.
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>>336632217
I wouldn't be surprised if P5 outsells FFXV in Japan. The worldwide sales will make FFXV more profitable though, and no one but Sega/Atlus themselves will notice how impressive it would be.
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>>336632032

>sound estimates I made up

I'm not bias towards either game, as I'm looking forward to both. I just don't like when people pull statistics out of their ass and try to pawn them off as fact.
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>FF
>relevant post Lightning
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>>336632419
Do you deny that Atlus would be ecstatic if P5 sold 2 million copies?

Do you deny that Square Enix would be disappointed if FFXV only sold 7 million?
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Lightining Returns sold less on the PS3/360 than Persona 4 Golden sold on the Vita.

AtluSega is right.
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>>336632428
You might not like it but it's definitely relevant, this will affect their sales.
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>>336632485

yes I do
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>>336632581
Which?
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>>336632032
You inflated FF13's sales by about two million there. P4+ P4G did make 2 million in sales, though.

Still more than double P4's sales, but not quite the gap you imagined. 2mil is an impressive number.
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>>336632428

I'm a regional manager for EB games, and preorders numbers for XV are insanely high.
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>>336632531
They should've known that nobody outside of Japan likes Lightning as much as they do.
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If Persona 5, with those 2006 graphics outsells a masterpiece of digital fidelity like FF XV, it'll be the biggest step back for our medium in videogame history
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>>336632217
>all-out
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>>336624008
Are Americans so poor they can't afford to buy two games at the same time? Seriously..
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>>336632668
Yeah, but it's a zombie franchise, like Resident Evil. I don't mean that literally. Like Resident Evil these days, it sells millions of copies, but no one actually cares about it. It's just normies buying it on brand recognition.

It's kind of like Hillary Clinton voters in that you won't see them on any day but voting day.
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>>336624125
Uh?
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>>336632749
Well P5 isn't coming to the West until a bit later so they have the time to save up money for two $60+ games
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>>336630738
>and Japs are looking forward to this game more than XV. I'd say XV is in trouble here.

It will sell more in Japan don't be so delusional.
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FFXV

>Melancholic story about 4 male supermodels traveling around in an expensive car trying to find themselves Literally a direct to TV lifetime movie.

Persona 5

>SSSTylish, cool, jazzy, oozing personality, filled with a diverse cast of misfits and waifus.
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>all those unnecessary aestethic designs in the menus and UI in general
>screen gets filled with ugly splatters when attacking
The game looks like it's trying way too hard to be "stylish", at least FFXV has a minimalistic approach and doesn't try to shove things like that in your face.
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>>336628765
>Cr1tikal
>Bad
He was right, man, you need to end it.
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>>336632749
Yes. They tend to pick a game for the month.
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>>336632828
Is this leaving out the PS3 version? Because they had P5 up as seperate games for each console, and together they overpowered FFXV easily. I think the PS3 version may have had almost as many votes as the PS4 version.
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>>336632697
Actually it will be four steps forward, considering that FF XV looks and places like shit and even though the graphics theoretically could be good, the frame rate is fucking awful and will drop sub 20 on release. Persona 5 looks like the better game, more contained and more focused jrpg than the DMC-lite that FFXV is going to be. Not only that the cast of XV are charisma vacuums. Shit does not look fun at all.
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>>336632828
DQXI wins again
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>>336632918
I fucking hate FFXV's minimalistic approach. It looks ripped straight out of Ninja Gaiden 3.
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>There will never ever be an SMT game on PS4
>Atlus will keep shoving nitendtrash games at our throats

I will still pirate Final though
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>>336633043
I don't give a flying fuck what it's ripped out of as long as it looks good and actually works. P5 looks like a fucking mess in that regard, would rather they just go with something that works rather than be unique for the sake of being unique.
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>>336628765
>tbfp
Would any 16 year old seriously enjoy the old nerd shit that they talk about?
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>>336633089
Do you really think they'd be bringing back demons as enemies and even making 3D models for demons that have never been in 3D before if they didn't intend to make more megaten games on consoles?
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>mfw persona is proving turn based jrpg still has appeal as long as its done right

Fucking action rpg reeeeeeeeeee
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>>336624406
well there's no way im getting a 3DS just for megaten

fucking hell fatlus
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>>336633139
It looks cool as fuck. That post-battle screen is just oozing style.
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This is definitely not a troll question as I don't care about either franchise, but are there people who are genuinely excited for ff15?

It's been literally 15 years in July since the last good ff game was released. Is this what it's like to be a nintendo fan?
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>People think that a game that sells millions in nipland alone will sell less than series that barely reach 1 mill in world wide sales.

With the current marketing no way is it gonna outsell in nipland.
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>>336633268
The post-battle screen looks like it's going to get real old really fucking fast, no idea what you're talking about there. Maybe if we were talking about a 30 minute game where you experience it for an incredibly short period of time and don't have to repeat it constantly.

Sadly that is not what P5 is, and instead we're going to be stuck with this because I guess that's what's needed to distract dumb little shits.
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>I'll have to avoid /v/ for months come September
Maybe I'll get my life back in control
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>>336633220
Turn based done right is pretty entertaining t b h. Too bad I've never seen good examples outside of SRPGs and SMT
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>>336633395
There's a O button to fast forward
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>>336633320
There hasn't been a good persona since P2.

Which was how many years again?
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>>336626107
Not really. I played p2 first and understood everything just fine.
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>>336624008
They released Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold (jap) and Persona Q (west) around week apart from Pokemon ORAS.
Atlus doesn't gives a fuck.
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>>336633320
Everything they've shown about FFXV so far has looked great, don't see any reason not to be excited. Other than Prompto looking like a fucking meth addict.
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>>336633481
P2 was shit. Worst game in the series. Even P1 is better.
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I wasn't sure about P5, but it looks decent. Hope localization doesn't take too long. I expect an early 2017 release.
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>>336633481
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>>336624008
If it flops it'll go to PC so you fags should be happy.
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>>336633460
That doesn't really make their choice any less worse, since you're still going to have to sit through a brief moment of it every time. It's unnecessary as all hell, and doesn't really do anything for anyone beyond the first hour or so unless they're really fucking fond of a big mess being thrown around on the screen.
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>>336633320
>Implying 12 was bad
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>>336632217
your really put the popularity of persona really high but its really not that popular hell compare the stream vierwerships for the ffxv event youtube and twitch combined 140k for a company that no one cares about that is pretty big to todays persona stream less then 10k ffxv trended on twitter and nothing for persona
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>>336633523
>Everything they've shown about FFXV so far has looked great

It's got some cute waifus who will rarely be on screen, a cool flying car, and maybe some fun minigames. The music will probably be good, if a little too much like Kingdom Hearts. But the core gameplay looks like shit (and because it's open world, it will be stretched out painfully) and Final Fantasy has never had good story or characters, and there's no reason to believe they'll start now with the fujo targeting and all.
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>>336633395
There's an option to have just the post-battle screen without the animation.
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>>336633669
>persona stream less then 10k

What
I am pretty sure there's >50k in nico yesterday

Or are you comparing the youtube numbers ? This is Japanese only stream mate
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>>336624008
FFXV is going to flop. No one trusts squeanix to not fuck it up. At least with P5, we know atlus isn't straying far from the formula.
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>>336633636
It wasn't bad
It wasn't good either

I wouldn't even put 10 in my top 5 and it was miles better than 12. I couldn't even finish it.

"I'm captain Bosh"
Nope
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>>336624008
Persona 5 > Final fantasy XV
Just saying
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>>336633481
>P2
>good

I swear to fucking Christ people who say this haven't actually played the P2 games. They are not good. At all. The story, characters and soundtrack are God-tier, everything else sucks a huge dick.
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I just want to say that Final Fantasy 8 was better than 7

7 is overrated trash only loved because of muh nostalgia
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>>336633636
FFXII was terrible. The combat is awful and has no weight, the character development system is one of the worst I've ever seen, and the story and characters had promise but were half-baked and soulless. You could feel that the director left.

The game was such shit that the re-release completely overhauled every aspect of the gameplay, including how you develop your characters. Hell, they named the re-release after the new system.
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>>336633940
In what way was it better?
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Regardless of who outsells who its a bad move for those two games to be competing with each other.

JRPGs aren't the king of the mountain anymore. They're not just competing amongst themselves but with western games and more popular genres in Japan. Both P5 and FFXV can't afford any less than the maximum possible sales, and releasing them so close to eachother is going to cut into both of their profits for casual consumers who don't want to spend their entire paycheck on video games and have to choose between one or the other.
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>>336634010
Better MC
Better supporting cast
Better Story
Not reliant on waifus
Better plot twist
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>>336633867
The fact people refer to P2 instead of EP or IS is triggering me
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Console SMT games>>FFshit>>>>>>>>>>>DS/3DS SMT>>>>> trash>>>Persona
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>>336634170
VIII has an awful cast outside of Squall. I'd count Quistis as well but the writers forgot she existed after the five hour mark, and so I often forget her as well. I don't think I even need to go into what is wrong with the story.
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They wont. At most they have 50 3d models and then recolors. SMT needs like 300 3d models.

SMT will be forever sprite based. And handheld exclusive.
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Don't worry SMTBros. We WILL have our day. Console SMT will come retake its throne with 5 as the king of MegaTen with Kaneko at the helm. As long as you believe...
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>>336634170
>Not reliant on waifus
How was 7 any more reliant on waifus?
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>>336634170
>Better plot twist
Hahahahhahahhahhahhaha
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>>336634279
Weird considering SJ is the best SMT title and SMTIV Final the second one.
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>>336633740
>core gameplay looks like shit
The gameplay looks great, the most recent footage we've seen of it has improved alot and basically fixed all the complaints that were made. You'd have to outright hate the KH-style gameplay that they're using in order to even have that opinion, since it pulls off what it tries to do solidly.

The open world aspect is still up in the air how it'll be, since the demos and all that have been as populated as they should be. With the focus basically being a roadtrip, I don't see them skimping out on that part and making the world unnecessarily empty.

FF has had a great cast in so many iterations of the series, holy shit what are you smoking? The Persona casts have been like cardboard cutouts in comparison, your bias is showing on multiple levels here.

The stories, aside from the mess that was FFXIII and everything related to that, have been interesting. FFX-2 wasn't all that great, but at least it provided other aspects such as the gameplay actually being pretty stellar to compensate for it. The rest easily outshine the shit that Persona has put out over the years.

If you think they're pandering to fujos only you're clearly mistakened, and seemingly don't know what that means either. That market is incredibly niche, and not nearly profitable enough for them to bank a AAA title on it. FF is, and has always had a broad appeal to major demographics, and wouldn't gain anything by simply limiting themselves to that.
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>>336633867
And the same goes for P1 minus the characters and the story.
I'll never get why it has a cult following when it's basically the least creative SMT spin-off if you don't count Saturn's Devil Summoner.
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>>336634449
>KH-style gameplay
KH controlled much better desu.
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>>336634279
>not liking strange journey
I mean SMT 2 and Nocturne are the best games in the series but come one dude don't be so pleb. Even IV and IV:A are great games despite being different.
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>>336634548
I would agree with you if it was 2 months ago.
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>>336634170

>Better MC
Yes. Squall is objectively the best written character in the series.

>Better supporting cast
No. While the supporting cast of VIII is underrated, they serve mostly to add to Squall's characterization than be characters themselves. VII's entire cast stands as individuals.

>Better Story
I think overall VII's is stronger, but again VIII's is underrated and I think its close enough that I won't fight on this one.

>Not reliant on waifus
Neither really were.

>Better plot twist
VIII doesn't even really have a real significant plot twist, unless you're referring to the orphanage thing which is grossly blown out of proportion and doesn't actually have that big of an impact on the game. Cloud's identity crisis is much better done.
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DDS1/2 >Nocturne
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>>336634698
What do you mean?
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>>336634793
DDS has pretty weak dungeon design and not as much replay value or depth as Nocturne. It's better in a lot of other areas though.
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Atlus is calling Square-enix out on their shit.

To be honest I'm still shock FF15 is actually going to come out this year. I still remember it being THE reason to buy a PS3.
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>>336634820
In the Platinum demo, it was honestly not all that great. Since then they've improved alot upon it, making it no longer as 'braindead' and adding more options.
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>>336634976
I haven't been keeping up, what have they changed since the demo?
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>>336634976
The Platinum demo is the most recent demo, is it not? Then how do you know these things without playing it?

At any rate, the problem with FFXV is not lack of depth. It's the fact that it just isn't fluid or fun to play. It's one step above Witcher and is nowhere near as fun as a real action game or one of the better action RPGs.
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>>336624008
>then Atlus realize the only thing they can turn back to as their main series is making a true console SMT game .

I think you mean another SMT for 3DS. Because that's what you'll end up getting. Persona is literally the only reason people know about SMT. Persona is mainline.
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>>336635225
FUCK YOU SHIT EATING WAIFU'S
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>>336624008
So what's with the domino mask?
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>>336635089
Episode Duscae is the most recent playable demo though.

>>336635074
Switching weapons is done manually with some new additions for tools, you control much smoother and the auto aim has been improved, and the shield actually increased alot upon the combat since you can cancel animations with it if timed right.

There was more obviously but it's harder to just summarize like this.
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>Atlus suicidal

Square Enix hasn't put out a decent FF game in years. I'm pretty sure the only reason people still buy the games is a huge case of Stockholm syndrome and brand recognition.
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>>336633395
This. Honestly the entire approach is aesthically a massive step back from P3/P4. Definitely aiding with FFXV in regards to the UI.
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The people who want a turn-based RPG will get Persona while people want an ARPG will get FFXV. Personally, I'd rather have have the turn-based game, so I'm getting Persona.
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Here is the summary for everything.

P5 will lose. FFXV will win.

I'll be buying both.

The end.
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>>336636619
Cool. I'll get both.

It's not like P5 will have any depth anyway.

>enemy weak to this
>okay use that

FFXV will come packed with way more playtime, and the battles will be more entertaining generally, while also being more difficult.
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They probably looked up their stuff before giving a release date like that.
Releasing it 2 weeks after would've been a bigger mistake.

And it's 2 weeks, they don't compete head to head. I don't know how pay schedules work in japan, but if it's anything like here in North America, you usually get a pay at least once during that 2 week span
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>>336637210
>Final Fantasy
>Ever being difficult
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>>336637210
I hope you enjoy both. Still on the fence about XV since I wanted to play a turn-based game that didn't suck ass like the last new FF I played, but it went for something different. Still looks neat, but I'll probably pick it up later.
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>Shoji Meguro against Yoko Shimomura

My ears couldn't get more erect
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>>336633521
That didn't turn out well for Untold 2 though.
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>>336636973
>win at sales numbers
>still earn less in profit
They went full retard with the budget and now need to sell at least 10 million copies for XV to not flop.
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>>336637482
>FF
>turn based

It's been ATB since fucking 7, bro.
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>>336624008
P5 has better husbandos.
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>>336637480
Most of them, no. But FFXV's enemy at the end of platinum offered a decent challenge, and when the final game improves upon that, it's going to be amazing. It's more difficult than turn based games, unless of course it's some SMT shit.
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>>336637704
Since IV, you mean.
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>>336637704
Yeah, because that's when the FF series started, huh.
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>>336637735
The bosses in FFXV look even less engaging than the trash mobs.
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>>336624406
This. It's a falseflagger.
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>>336637635
>second attempt at forcing story mode in a game that doesn't need it
>on-cart content locked behind a shitload of day 1 DLC
No matter the reason, EO2U failure can only benefit the series as a whole in a long run.
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>>336637921
we'll see, but i know you're just being a cunt
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>>336638192
Nah. There's no physicality. They're big guys with clumsy hitboxes that take a thousand hits to kill. There's no meaningful interactivity and whenever they do show some cool block it looks like a QTE or cutscene.

At least with standard enemies you can dodge around them, block them, stunlock them.
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>>336625284
> From the demo XXV looks like fucking garbage with the brain dead combat and non-existent strategy.

You just described every Persona game since 3.

Good job.
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>tfw you plan on buying both day one.
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>>336638719
Persona 1 and 2 are infinitely more braindead than 3 and 4.
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>>336638836
I didn't play them so that's why I left them out of my post.

But still, anyone praising Persona 5's combat and shitting on FFXV is a delusional fanboy.
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>>336638996
Neither are likely to be great, but P5 will be closer to standard turn-based JRPG quality while FFXV is significantly below average.
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>>336638719
>>336638836
>Persona game since 3
>braindead

LOL yeah it was not rocket science to exploit weakness but its not braindead
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>>336639181
> standard turn-based JRPG quality

So brain dead combat with non-existent strategy.
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>>336639319
Yes. Still preferable to At Least Our Combat is Better Than Witcher 3's.
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>>336639408
Why are you comparing those two. They do not play alike at all.
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Im hyped for both, and getting both.

Admittedly I'm more hyped for XV right now considering that we arent getting P5 in the west til november at the absolute earliest.

My only issue with both games is that the characters designs of the main parties look boring.
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>>336624008
Getting both day one. I'm more excited for P5 right now though since that last trailer was, as they say, "lit up." Also really not a fan of playing as One Direction.
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I just really don't understand Persona, when I first played P3 I didn't know about SMT really and all I was thinking was "This game would be a lot cooler with no faggy anime social stuff and a better setting" and then I found SMT.

Persona just feels like the same game but blander and with more filler to me.
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When does the PS4K come out? If they bundled XV with the PS4K sales would be so high.
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>>336624008
Is PV04 translated with subs yet? Or any fan analysis vids up?
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>>336639784
Persona 1 and 2 are closer to SMT, especially 2's story. The problem is that the battle systems in that are kind of boring to play, or at least 2's is really difficult to have fun. It's just so bland and boring even compared to P1's gameplay.
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>>336637724
>female name
>female voice actor
What's with people insisting on Morgana being male lately? Are they for real or am I not up to speed with another dank meme?
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>>336640304
>Pikachu
>Chopper
>girl
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>>336640304
There was an interview where they talked about Morgana and they referred to him as a he. Several times.

Some people refuse to believe it, but unless they're going to copy-paste Naoto's character arc, he's male.
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>>336640409
Source on that interview would be great.
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>>336640409
But Morgana is a girl's name.
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>>336640646
I dont think Japan cares anon.
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>>336640304
Interview
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>Squall is objectively the best written character in the series.

Holy shit, somebody finally agrees with me.
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>mfw Final when it comes here turns out to be better than P5 when it also eventually comes
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>>336640409
Was this an English interview or a Japanese one?
Because that makes all the difference in the world.
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>>336640981
It's right there.>>336640783

>彼は普段は小さく仲間からも「おい、ねこ」と呼ばれている
>彼
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>>336640819
>Nintendrone this delusional
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>>336631473
I thought Pokemon was te CoD of JRPGs
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>>336640409
girls referring to themselves as "he" is a common trope among immature-esque characters
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I want to believe in an English release date for the same year, but it's not gonna happen is it?
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>>336641380
It's not referring to himself as a he. It's the director referring to him as a he.
Though for the record Morgana does use a male personal pronoun.
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>>336641462
thanks for the clarification i guess we will see eventually
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>>336641406
It's pretty likely I think. Atlus JAPAN is coming to E3. I'll keep my expectations low, but I wouldn't be too surprised by a simultaneous release at this point.
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>>336624008
>waifu game
>homosexual game
everybody gets something! Though the gameplay looks more fun for P5, FF15 looks like its just walking or driving large bodies of land with little to do in between
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>>336641197
Not really.

IV was wayy better than 4.
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>>336641659
>Atlus game
>not having fujobait

Atlus panders to everyone, silly anon.
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>>336641462
While we're at it, it's a very outdated pronoun which apparently "conveys a nuance of self-importance".
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Mark my words you fucking console losers. You hear me right now? Loud and clear? Well good, you better listen the fuck up.

I did NOT spend $600 on my GTX 980, another $300 on my overclocked i7 @ 4.10ghz, 16 gigs of ram, and deluxe cooling systems to keep this beast at proper temperatures to NOT fucking play Persona 5. You hear me you little faggots? I have spent WELL over $1000 on my gaming rig, and I WILL play Persona 5 on it one way or another. I abhor, I hate, I LOATHE the idea of even thinking of some cheap shitty console from Sony being allowed even 30 yards from my basement. If I need to make a fortress with my pizza boxes, Big Mac boxes, and liters upon liters of piss bottles to keep that shitty underpowered piece of plastic toy away from my very being and my beautiful prized possession (that's my PC in case you didn't know, fucking low IQ peasants), then so be it.

Atlus, I will ask nicely once more. You WILL port Persona 5 to the PC platform via Steam, it WILL obliterate the console version, and I WILL pirate it just to spite you dumb fucking slant eyed gooks for daring to even spite us; the proud and powerful PC master race.
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>>336642397
Easy (you)
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>>336642397
wat
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>>336642397
Don't worry, you'll play it.
In 10 years.
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>>336632917
I like you, anon
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>>336642397
I know you're being dumb but it's sad that some people actually think like this
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Why not both?
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>>336642397
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>>336625393
>>336625470
but we had also some crossovers between P3 and P4 (Persona Q)
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>he thinks there exists, in this world, a single person who enjoys Persona who will bypass buying the game because FFXV comes out 2 weeks later

After we gas the kikes and the faggots, the next on our list should be the criminally stupid.
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>>336643260
Woah man, the faggots aren't that bad.
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>>336640783
Correct me if I'm wrong here but doesn't Japanese lack a gender neutral 3rd person pronoun other than just repeating the name?
Considering how they are still pretty hush-hush about Morgana's gender anyway, I find it safe to assume kare in this interview is used as gender neutral.
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>>336643260
Anybody with a limited budget would do that, to be honest. Not everybody has $60 to blow at the drop of a hat.
That being said, it's a moot point anywhere outside Japan because P5 will be released in NA in December the very earliest.
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>>336624008
Mark my words you fucking console losers. You hear me right now? Loud and clear? Well good, you better listen the fuck up.

I did NOT spend $600 on my GTX 980, another $300 on my overclocked i7 @ 4.10ghz, 16 gigs of ram, and deluxe cooling systems to keep this beast at proper temperatures to NOT fucking play Persona 5. You hear me you little faggots? I have spent WELL over $1000 on my gaming rig, and I WILL play Persona 5 on it one way or another. I abhor, I hate, I LOATHE the idea of even thinking of some cheap shitty console from Sony being allowed even 30 yards from my basement. If I need to make a fortress with my pizza boxes, Big Mac boxes, and liters upon liters of piss bottles to keep that shitty underpowered piece of plastic toy away from my very being and my beautiful prized possession (that's my PC in case you didn't know, fucking low IQ peasants), then so be it.

Atlus, I will ask nicely once more. You WILL port Persona 5 to the PC platform via Steam, it WILL obliterate the console version, and I WILL pirate it just to spite you dumb fucking slant eyed gooks for daring to even spite us; the proud and powerful PC master race.
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>>336643465
>Anybody with a limited budget would do that, to be honest.

Wrong, because everyone who likes both prefers Persona.
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>>336642397
You will be able to play when a decent ps4 emulator come out.
And I'm sure your GTX 980 cant handle it so prepare another ~ $400 for a new graphic card or use that money to buy a PS4[/spolier]
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>>336643750
Lmao at you PCucks
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>>336644249
I really hope more P5xLupin III images pop up.
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Anyone have the SMT/Persona infographic on getting into the series? Mainly talking about SMT, I don't know if I should start with Digital Devil Saga or not.
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>>336644763
Yeah, DDS is a good gateway game for the series since it eases you into the series with a more traditional, linear RPG without demon/Persona recruitment and fusion. Good games, too.
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>>336644763
DDS is GOAT, just be aware that the PSN versions have awful slowdown and audio sync issues. Don't play the PSN version if you can play it some other way.
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>>336645297
Neat, I've been wanting to play it for a long time (probably 2007-8) but I just never got around to it.
>>336645376
Thanks

I was going to burn the PS2 iso to a DVD and play it that way, so good to know.
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they both look like shit
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>>336646392
Epic meme XD
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/v/ is going to fucking explode in September. What a time to be alive.
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>>336624125
what the fuck is that image real?

what the fuck is up with her arm?
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>>336646860
Only with spoilers. Keep in mind this release date is for Japan only.
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>>336624008
what are they thinking? unless the whole thing can be finish in 20 or so hours.
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>>336646932
Importing it day one so I won't have to deal with that shit.
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>>336624008
Wait whats this whatd i miss?
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>>336647079
Most can't read nipponese, so that won't cause any explosion of discussion.
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>>336646904
Popeye the sailor-woman.
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>>336631575
>Sega's biggest marketing budget ever
I don't think so
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>>336647240
Most can't but people will still talk about it regardless.
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>>336647240
There will be plenty of people who just read the translated spoilers and try to spread them out.
It happened with SMT IV Final. With Persona 5 I expect it will happen faster and on a larger scale.
If there's an Adachi is the killer kind of plot twist, expect /v/ to boom about it left and right as early as 14th.
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Can we just not spoil P5 thx? Let's be nice people for once.
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>>336632217
If Sega were smart they'd convince Atlus to make Phantasy Star V
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