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http://www.screencritics.co.uk/2016/05/04/is-the-nintendo-nx-about-ditch-the-disc-drives-for-cartridges/

IT'S OVER, NINTENDOH IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
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The only problem with ditching the disk drive would be no Wii U physical backwards comparability.
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>>336621892
Wouldn't this be insanely expensive with how large games are nowadays? I can't see this happening at all.
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>>336621978
Expensive media is also a problem
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>>336622058
Hasn't been a big issue on PC yet.
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>>336621978
usb dvd drive
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>>336621978
But Anon! You can repurchase your wiiU games on the nintendo store! :)
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>>336622119
>flash drives
>expensive

pick one
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>>336622208
Needs to be a bluray drive to support Wii U games.
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>>336621892
How can you fuck up this badly? N64 was completely destroyed by PS1 back when disc based media was just being introduced, how thefuck are they even supposed to stay afloat 20 years later where disc based is the industry norm?
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>>336622338
It is more expensive than optical still.
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>>336621892
>rumor
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>>336621892
I could see it. If they give the NX a good sized HD and then their cartridges are basically used to install the games onto the HD.
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>>336622181
>PC constantly misses out on console games
Uh huh.
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>>336622395
Until we know what the form factor of the NX is, the cost situation is for their cartridges, or what they are or are not including in the BOM, it's not possible to ascertain whether it is a fuck up or not.
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>>336622587
NX is supposed to be on par with ps4/xbone
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>>336622181
PC games are still DVD or just a damn Steam code in a box.
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>>336621892
A silly idea but it might work.
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>>336622473
It may ultimate be less expensive on Nintendo's end if they are going to have a shared library between form factors. One box, one retail shelf space, one uniform pallet size/weight for shipping, removing the optical drive and possibly HDD from the console's bill of materials.
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Just like that leaked gimmick controller right?
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>>336622395
Because data density was a bigger issue back then? Maybe they're looking to capitalize on higher data rates from the solid state media than worrying about a spinning disc, especially if it's a portable hybrid.

But this is /v/ of course, basic analytical skills are somewhat shunned here.
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>>336621892
How is this a bad thing desu?
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>>336622678
>supposed to be
You don't know that, I don't know that. Unless you want to start offering up credentials as to where you work and what you have access to, don't assume anything as to its components.
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>>336622767
so much shitposting that guy caused
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They will abandon physical media entirely before going back to cartridges. They're just too expensive and Nintendo is trying to cut costs everywhere they can.
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>>336622395
How can you be this fucking ignorant? N64 was completely destroyed by PS1 because catridges were TINY in terms of file storage, and discs were MASSIVE. Developers wanted lots of space for video and textures and shit.

That isn't a problem with cartridges any more. They can reach large filesizes. The problem now is just that they're relatively expensive, but the performance improvement just from using them might be the boost Nintendo needs. It's more than just a basic lack of load times - using cartridges allows you to stream data off the disc very quickly, which is amazingly powerful.
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>>336622058

The price of SSDs has been going down lately. If the price keeps going down it might be only a little bit more expensive to put the games on cartridges than on discs.

I don't like a lot of the decisions that Nintendo has been making lately, but if the new console uses cartridges I'm going to be one of the few people who will be happy about it. I HATE loading screens. I would be willing to pay a little more to get rid of loading screens.
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>>336621892
Discs sucks ass since the last gen.
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>>336622731

Right... but then users install the games to their hard drives.
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Anyway pgs will rekt them in winter
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>>336622949
>Cartridges aren't physical media.

Not trying to be offensive but you're being ignorant if you actually believe discs are the only way of physical media.
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>cartridged based games
So how easy do I lose my saves once the battery gets jiggled off?
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>>336623316
This isn't 1996 anymore they have ways of backing saves up without the cart
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>>336623242
>it looks like a phone, a 3DS, and a Vita

Is this shit even real?
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>>336623007
>I HATE loading screens. I would be willing to pay a little more to get rid of loading screens.
I don't think it would get rid of loading times, especially if you're still talking about game sizes on par with what the other platforms are putting out.
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3DS games are sold for less than disc based games and can go up to 4GB. Those extra $20 can easily cover manufacture costs of 32GB+ carts. Most Nintendo devs actually know how to use storage space effectively too so they won't need a lot of storage, unlike bigger multiplat AAA devs that just don't bother compressing or optimizing shit.
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>>336622841
Cardtridge you stupid fuck not ssd
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>>336623469
yes
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>>336623280
How does my post imply cartridges aren't physical media?
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>>336623469
it does. it's like the xperia play
see http://pgslab.com/
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>>336622998
Are you retarded and underage? The cost of cartridges is still fuckloads more than disc meaning all their production costs are increased, if they use ssd that only increases production costs even fucking higher more than it ever was
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If they managed to shove more shit into the cart more than the typical BD then they would really be a game changer and more fucking third party games
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>>336621892
Disks are going away regardless. People download shit now. I assume they are going to be pushing an online store, with carts available for convenience sake along with the marketing offered by being seen on the shelves at retail.

There is also the speculation that the NX is going to be portable in some way, so a disk wouldn't make sense in that scenario.
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>>336621892
Thank fuck, loading times are getting retardedly long
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nx confirmed handheld/console hybrid
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>>336623612
It's literally the same type of memory you retard
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>>336621892

i love cartridges... the only problem i see is it's another potential barrier for 3rd party support.
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>>336623810
Yet the 3DS and the Vita in Japan still print fuckloads of money despite being cart based. There are various factors that would make carts on home consoles viable and profitable again, despite discs still being cheaper to produce.

Of course if the NX flops harder than the Wii U none of this will matter and its main storage media will be the least contributing factor for its flop, aside from lack of physical media based backwards compat, which WILL impact its sales.
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>>336624250
No it isn't dipshit
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>>336623664
Here:

>They will abandon physical media entirely before going back to cartridges.
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>>336624250
ROM vs RAM.
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>>336624310
Because those are handheld you fucking retard holy shit get the fuck off the Internet before you hurt yourself
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>>336621892

All Nintendo has to do is make the NX strong with good 3rd party support. That's fucking it. Don't fuck this up or I'm done
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If Nintendo NX is going to be portable then it makes sense to use flash over optic.
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>>336621892
Why should the consumer care about this choice?
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>>336624432
Fuck off retard, portable games also sell $20 or more cheaper than on home consoles despite carts being more expensive to produce. Again, factors, kill yourself.
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>>336624331
Yes it literally is, a fucking flash drive is the same shit as an ssd.
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>>336622395
>Completely Destroyed
Just because it didn't win that generation doesn't mean it did badly for itself. It was a successful system in its own right. Besides, guys still bring their N64s to college with them and play with their friends on Friday nights. How many people do you still see playing PS1 games?
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>>336624470
>strong with good 3rd party support
They won't have any third party support at all until they build up an install base worth releasing games. The regular consumer probably isn't willing to pay a lot of money for a Nintendo console, so there are limits as to how strong they can actually make it. They no doubt lost another slice of their core base with the turd that was the Wii U.

They have a very steep climb ahead of them.
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>>336624250
Are you legitimately stupid?
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>>336624576
A lot of that is tied up in the production costs of a portable game, which are lower. I don't think 3DS games come any bigger than 4GB, either. I don't know anything about the Vita.
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>>336624423
>No Lex Luther pic
You were so close
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>>336624470
>Nintendo console
>strong with good 3rd party support
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>>336623713
>Intel Integrated Graphics
>Run demanding games
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>>336624979

shit on the gamecube all you want but it had tons of 3rd party support
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>>336621892
This is just beyond retarded. Just let users buy their own HDD/SD cards and make all the games digital for fuck sake
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What is gullible?
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>>336625045
Like?
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>>336621892
I think its a good idea, Im all for ditching load times in games, this probably also means that the game can be used in both the portable and home console version of the NX.
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>>336625045
lol lideraley no it had no games lol
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>>336625007
See also this http://www.gamedev.net/topic/677593-portable-console-for-all-pc-games-pgs/
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Maybe you can use the cards in the controller like a handheld, in this mode the resolution and texture are a bit worse.

When connected to the console module you can access the game installed on a HD and get the full resolution.

You can have a smaller size on the cart like 8-16gb of data (Class 10 SD ou Class 1 XSD) and more data on the console like 20-40Gb.
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>>336625358
Gc wasn't current gen...
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>>336625471
They can't be serious
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>>336625471
>it plays movies
That's a cool feature, but cell phones can do that shit too
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>>336624376
Not sure what part of that isn't clear to you. Discs and cartridges are both physical media, and it's more likely that they will use neither in the case that they drop discs.
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>>336621978
Well, assuming the nx won't have a tablet, it'd be impossible anyway.
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>>336625045
In the first year. And then they all dropped out. Hell OG Xbox had better support than the cube.
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>>336625586
They'r serious, it will be availabe for about 250$ they said
>>336625610
It runs windows 10 and android 6
And you can call and receive calls when you're on android
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>>336625869
This is just gross
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>>336624878
Manufacture wise, If the rumors about being able to play home console games on the portable side and vice versa are true, then they might be unifying their manufacture process, which would presumably reduce costs. Especially if they just put the home version and a portable version on the same cart, and the portable version is the same exact game just with lowered graphics.

What remains to be seen and what's most likely to happen is that they'll still have console only and portable only releases. Portable only games would still be cheaper to produce and manufacture, but they'd definitely take a hit with console only games, but presumably not enough for it to matter and are banking on having almost non existent load times as a main selling point.
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>Especially if they just put the home version and a portable version on the same cart, and the portable version is the same exact game just with lowered graphics.
You don't need to put two games on the card. You literally just tell the console to change the settings, like you let users do manually on a PC.
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>>336625938
hahaha holy shit

People actually want this turd?
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>>336625938
>>336626193
It's a handheld, guys.
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>>336626193
>>336625938

see >>336626440

also the vidya : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5AlGSxsjxg
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>>336626440
Yeah and for $250 you can spend your money on something that can actually play games like a consoles or graphics card. Sure it's not portable but you can either have a portable piece of trash that doesn't play games or a stationary machine that does.
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As a handheld dude the NX has been nothing but bad news for me. Already sold all my 3ds games but smash. After Pokemon sun/moon I'm fuckin' done senpai
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>>336625938
>mfw this is about what my shitty PC does
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>>336624691
>>336622395
But the N64 completely won that gen, hands down. The only thing the PS1 had going for it was Chrono Cross and FF7.

N64 had the best Mario Partys, SM64, Ocarina of Time, Smash Bros, and Golden Eye 007. Not to mention the best console version of Doom. Selling more consoles =/= winning if you're not making as much money as your competitor is off of game sales. Especially nowadays, when pretty much every system sells at a loss.
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>>336623934
the best option, if it could be reliable, would be a cloud-based streaming service. once technology reaches a point where data streaming can be fast and sustainable, every game company will switch to cloud gaming.
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>>336621892
Are you retarded?
It isn't the 90s anymore, you can store multible terrabyte on a memory stick the size of a tampon.
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It's because you have the option to rent and stream games from their servers.
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>>336626440
>>336626580
So? Should I play all my 3DS games on the slow as shit emulator that's out too?
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>>336621978

Good.

All you shitposting faggots don't get to play the games you shitposted about.
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>>336626812
this
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REPEAT AFTER ME
NINTENDU
DINDU
NUFFING WRONG
ITS ANYTHING ELSE FAULT, ESPECIALLY SONYGGERS AND PKEK
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>>336626440
>>336626580
That doesn't mean it's not a piece of shit. I'll stick with real handheld games, thank you very much. At least those are playable.
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the situation now is different than in the 90s with flash memory being inexpensive and more than enough for games unless you blow a lot of space on stupid shit like voice acting and streamed cutscenes
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>>336626770
>N64 had the best Mario Partys, SM64, Ocarina of Time, Smash Bros
>kiddie shit that nobody cares about
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>>336623007
I agree with you on loading times. It was one of the reasons i couldn't make it through Ninja Gaiden Sigma on my PS3.

I mean, you don't have to eliminate loading times, but it would be nice if they were reduced. Some games are ridiculous. I heard that Just Cause 3 was bad with loading times as well.
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>>336627209
What is the point of showing these numbers?

Also
>vgchartz
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>>336621892
Will the new CoD fit inside those cartridges?
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>>336621892
>hey look another opinion piece paraded as fact on /v/
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>>336627482
please be porn
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>>336627209
WHAT FO THE NUMBERS MEAN
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>>336621892
Welcome to /v/, a board filled to the brim with underage so far attached from their peers that they spend most of their free time false flagging and baiting about console wars so they can get just a tiny taste of that attention they were so starved for as a child. The hottest "joke" right now is to pretend to be an obnoxious dick riding corporate dog (for sony, before anyone else), insult all other brands that directly compete with them, and discard all other posts just to get that point across. Enjoy your stay!
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>>336627350
he best PS1 game was Tomba.
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>>336622395

Anon, name over 15 good, variable titles for the PS1.

Protip: you can't
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>>336627482

Don't talk to me or my daughter ever again
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>>336621978
But anon, you could just buy the NX DD! (NX Disk Drive)
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Solid state storage is superior to CDs in all ways for vidya outside of amount of data contained. Its only inevitable that everything becomes digital only or cart based, most PS4/Xbone games are already loaded off the HDD with the disk only being an installer/key.
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If this doesn't have major drawbacks, I'd be all for it. Cartridges are a lot sturdier than disks and not having loading times would genuinely be a 'gimmick' I'd actually pay money for.
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Use both.
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>>336623090
This. Discs were cool back in the ps1 era because people used CDs a lot. They had smaller cases and were easy to store.

Now people want faster media. Cartridges fulfill that role.
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>>336632925
How do the ROM cartridges from Macronix compare to an HDD [5400RPM], though? Because that's where the console is getting the data from, not the disk.
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>>336633750
Not him but the real reason Nintendo would want to use carts is because they wouldn't have to include a HDD in the system while having the same read speed as the ones that do.
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>>336625737
>Wii U didn't have wiimote or nunchucks
>This means the Wii U won't have backwards compatibility with the Wii
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>>336622569
>Missing out on interactive movie 109421 and Nostalgia Rehash 120358

Being a PCuck is suffering
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>>336634009
Yeah, that's what I was assuming. That means internal flash storage again. If I thought cutting that $40-50 out of the BOM [optical+HDD] would have Nintendo using better internal components I'd probably be more optimistic.
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>>336621978
oh no all those wii u games I won't be able to play
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>>336621978
Why would a handheld be BC with Wii U?
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>>336622181
Wow, which PC game use cartridges?
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>>336621892
I want to see how stupid the gimmick shit will be this time
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>>336622569
Ah yes, the reason PC don't have exclusives such as Star Fox :P
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>>336623934
>Disks are going away regardless. People download shit now. I assume they are going to be pushing an online store, with carts available for convenience sake along with the marketing offered by being seen on the shelves at retail.

So basically the same thing as the 3DS?
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>>336621892
Literally fucking retarded

NX confirmed for BARELY 1080p
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Am I the only one excited for this?

Discs have been a pain in the fucking ass for years, Carts is the way Video games were meant to be, it means.

A. no more stupid cases
B. Easy to keep, store and collect
C. Simple to pull of a shelf,. pop in and play
D. Market value years to come.

Nintendo is fucking smart for this and I applaud them. DVD discs are cancer and need to be burned.
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>>336621978
The library is small enough to warrant an UMD passport-like system with no much loss.
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>>336621892
>IT'S OVER, NINTENDOH IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

Cartridges coming back would be a marketing success, noise guaranteed.
Watch it not happen though.
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>>336621978
Why is this an issue? Wii-U shouldn't be B/C with NX. NX eneds to break away from the wii generation, its cool that Wii is B/C and thats enough.

A wii-U spans 7th and 8th gen for nintendo, offers two console libraries and a butt fuck ton of VC titles.

NX needs to break away from the Wii-U entirely, and cement itself as its own thing as 9th gen.

A fresh clean start.
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>STILL USING PHYSICAL MEDIA IN FUCKING 2016
Holy shit, console kids.
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>>336637953
>People like to have tangible things

Like it or not physical media will always be a thing because we want it. We're not all ready to join you kids in your big brother controlled digital age.

If it aint in a box, it's aint worth jack to me. Doesn't exist. Not worth my time or money,.
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4gb micro sd card is a whopping $3 at office max A solid state cartridge that can never get scratched. How is this a bad thing?

>>336637953
People like being able to buy/sell/trade. They like it when products retain their value beyond the initial purchase. Weird right?
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>all signs point to NX being a portable
>people still talk as if it's confirmed a home console.
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>>336638249
This. I'm getting less and less interested.
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>>336637953
Uh no, I like buying my AAA games for literal pocket change used instead of paying $60 for an 8 hour "cinematic experience" like a tool.

>B-but digital s-sales!

Great! so I can get a game for 5 to 15% off instead of under $10? Yeah, no thanks. Digital retains its value so it can never lower, and last thing we need is Nintendo with games that don't EVER drop in price.
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>>336621892

... Why is this a big deal again? Are people on /v/ legit retards? Carts can just as much if not more now than Blu-rays and you don't have to worry about lasers and disk drives failing and they have faster loading times generally.
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>>336638249
Cart =/= home console. Its an SSD cart like 3DS/DS games. Not a bulky 72 pin box like the NES cartridges
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>>336623242

>Analog stick under the d-pad

trigger me timbers
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>>336637953
>Kids

Kids are the ones who want digital, It's us oldfolk who shun the very idea of non-tangible media. and rightly so.
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>>336627209
>1) Mario Kart
Huh, maybe these shitposts were right.
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>the year of 2016
>using physical media


kek
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>>336621892
>this entire thread

If you ever needed any proof that /v/ will shitpost on anything Nintendo-related and do not know wthat the fuck they're talking about when it comes to physical media and data storage, you need only direct them to the archive of this thread in the future.
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>>336623483
It would certainly reduce them by a significant degree.
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>>336626770

Chrono Cross was fucking awful.

FF9,FF8, Vanguard Bandits, Megaman Legends 1 and 2, Lunar 1 and 2, Parasite Eve 1 and 2, Soul Reaver, Spyro, Medieval, etc etc.
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>>336638445
I think you misused "retains it's value" when you meant "drops it's price." Retains value means that you buy something and can resell it. The physical product still has value beyond the initial purchase. Which digital game sales do not. They are bound to your account and worthless beyond your enjoyment. They have no monetary value once purchased.

And yes, Nintendo never drops it's prices. I agree with you that Nintendo products should only be bought physically if you're trying to save money.
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>>336626983
The average drone post, right here.

>YOU DONT GET TO HAVE IT BECAUSE I HAD IT FIRST
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>>336639049
>It would certainly reduce them by a significant degree.
Would it? I asked earlier in the thread >>336633750 and no one had an answer.
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>>336621892
This makes a shit tonne of sense, and frankly I would have expected that everyone knew this already.

People, they merged their handheld and console divisions for this fucking thing. They say it's going to be a third pillar that is neither console nor portable, yet separate from PCs and from standard mobile devices.

The only fucking logical conclusion was that it was a hybrid, and unless they embraced fucking UMDs (which let's be honest, they weren't going to), cartridges were the only way to go. And here's the thing: It's not a bad way to go at all. Solid state means that it can load a shit tonne faster, and that it'll be more easily stored, and that it'll be more impervious to damage.

This isn't going to be the same situation as the PS1 vs the N64 here. Solid state memory has come a long fucking way and can be comparable to or even better than many disc-based technologies. Shit, look at 3DS cartridges. Look at how much they can hold, and let's keep in mind for one second that they were based on similar limitations to the NDS, given the cartridge size and wanting to be backwards compatible.

If they use a new cartridge type, they can absolutely blast up the amount of information stored or received.

Behold... the NX! The Nintendo NeXt!
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>>336621892
what game is that on the black gamepad
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>>336640083
Nintendoland, metroid attraction
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>>336639203
>Hi I just came from Sonygaf is this the designated Nintendoom shitposing thread?
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>nintendo makes another completely unnecessary and retarded business decision theme starts playing
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>>336622998
>relative
What? They are completely unquestionable more expensive than optical media. Also optical media isn't used anymore for buffering the data since all the data is now installed on a HDD and basically the discs are just a form of DRM. The SSD technology even for small cards of 50GB is expensive as hell for consumers and production wouldn't be too far from it. Optical media is cheap as hell and while BD production is far more expensive than DVD/CD production is still far better overall than releasing the games on SSDs.

I would say once the SSDs technology get even more cheap over the next 3-4 years that it would be a good time to think of making a comeback for cartridges on consoles.
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>>336639803
>If they use a new cartridge type
The reason why the cartridge talk keeps circulating is because Nintendo has apparently placed orders with Macronix, the same company that supplies the ROM cartridges for the 3DS. It's most likely not a new cartridge type. You can see what Macronix has on offer here:

http://www.macronix.com/CachePages/en-us-Product-ROM-default.aspx#128Mb
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>>336640437
Solid state harddrives are not the only form of solid state storage.
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>>336621978
Just jettison the wii u from video game history. It was a gigantic mistake. Every game on it was the worst in its respective series except DK and mario kart anyway
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>We will finally have FF7 on a cartridge when the remake comes to NX

We've come full circle
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>>336621892
Here's the thing though.

Cartridges these days are more durable, smaller, and have larger capacity than discs, the reason they became obsolete in the first place was because CDs showed up out of nowhere and had astronomically better cost/capacity ratio.

These days they cost about as much as discs to produce, safer, more reliable, with better load times and some benefits that read-only discs cannot contend with, ultimately as long as they don't make them too bulky or unsightly, it'd probably be a good move.
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>>336641094
Didn't Sony actually put some of the money up for the remake and it's exclusive to them?
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>>336640160
Cute projections, since I don't own a PS4, memebaby.
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>>336641453
>have larger capacity than discs
Technically they can, but if you go the article at IGN [not the one linked in the OP in this thread] it talks about Macronix's latest ROM products on a 32nm process having a density of 32GB. Maybe they can double that up and it's not a problem, but many games are pushing 50GB now.
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>>336621892
It's not like they used the space in the disk well.

At least shillers can throw >load times into their shitposts in the future.
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>>336641648
>but many games are pushing 50GB now.
That's actually not true, I mean I get where you have this information from and its something I generally took for granted as well, but that's the amount of on-disc data, majority of it is actually dummy data to combat piracy, when games are stripped of dummy files, they average 18-30GB which is miniscule, in the rare cases when a game goes into 40+ GB more often than not its only due to using uncompressed audio which you only care about if you're an audiophile. so a 32GB cartrdige would be enough to hold a vast majority of games.

Here's a quick google result just as an example of what I'm talking about, since we're talking about console games I'll take console games as an example (But you can also just as easily go with steam titles if you want PC as an example)
https://www.finder.com/complete-list-playstation-4-install-sizes-460-titles

Of 460 titles on the list, only 34 titles are over 30GB, and of those 34, only 13 are over 40. and of those titles One is actually two games, One is three, One is a game + an expansion, and 3 (That I know of) use uncompressed Audio.

Game filesize has actually plateaued about ten years ago, but increases in capacity of phyisical medium lead to bloaded dummy files as a vine attempt to combat piracy (That's why generally ISO's and other pirated versions of games have significantly lower filesize than legal copies) A practice that Nintendo never really bothered with on their cartridge-based platforms because proprietary form factor.
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Holy fuck.

It will be so easy to jailbreak this shit now.
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Why can't they just make a normal console /v/?

Is it some kind of company law to always have some gimmick?
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>>336642724
>Holy fuck.
>It will be so easy to jailbreak this shit now.
If you say so.
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>>336642635
>as a vine attempt
Shit, I mean as a vain attempt.
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>>336622765
>>336622473
>>336622338
>>336622119

isn't like nintendo won't still charge you 69.99 79.99 for there shit
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>>336642979
3DS carts are $45
NX carts will be $50 at most.
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>>336634314
Yotube is a wonderful thiong for watching movies.
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>>336643084
>NX carts will be $50 at most.
I just love seeing dozens of claims with sources always being someone's ass in every single thread. Fucking analysts.
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>>336643520
>Listening to /v/ predict anything.
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>>336622365
WII u games are not blu ray
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>>336625938
>Japanese console ports like MGR or DAS2
>Bethesda games
>implying graphics settings actually do jack shit

MGR is probably the most successful implementation of Communism. Every version of the game is identical. No version is better than one, no version is worse than another.
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>>336643520
8gb Micro SD cards are under $5. You're saying that Nintendo selling games on a cart will raise the price by $30 because [no reason given] and that it's the undeniable truth because no one can disprove you.

here's my reference: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1VJ2KY9463
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>>336622765
>>336622473
Yeah, the shipping size could be fucking CRAZY for this.
Imagine being able to ship twice as many goods at a time. They probably wouldn't reduce the price below $60, but they could certainly profit more.
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>>336621892
Well, at least cartridges aren't prone to scratches and don't take up data storage. Actually, I'm perfectly fine with this if I give it some thought.
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>>336625938
>mirror's edge
>minimum-level graphics
>26-31 FPS
This game came out in fucking 2008.
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If Nintendo shifts to cartridges, I think they should apply the 3DS/DS paradigm rather than the retro one.
Cartridges do have the hipster appeal, but also carry the ''old'' stigma, I think.
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>>336625938
That's actually not bad for a handheld. It's got phone hardware. Can't run that shit on your Ouya.
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>tfw we'll go back to cardboard boxes

strap in boys, because we're about to go full circle here
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>>336645083
AND Nintendo gets a fucking fantastic deal on their SD cards because they buy so fucking many of them.
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>>336621978
Is there any way to give digital downloads to the people that own the games?
maybe use the Wii U itself to attach the games to the ccount, though with the piracy now that idea is maybe fucked
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>>336645557

That will most likely be their approach, making them into "cards" like 3DS games are made into. Still, this does provide a unique opportunity for them to sell this platform. The marketing appeal of a console having that "retro" feel, while still feeling new. They might even be able to reboot their brand.
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>>336645859
You realize that Nintendo, somehow is also in constant shitposting from Greenpeace faggots for actually having durable and near unbreakable hardware because it takes to long to descompose right?

Using Cardboard boxes
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>>336646039

Yeah, I really fucking hope they don't go the Jewish route like Sony did and just offer them up as downloadable titles to re-purchase.
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>>336643084
>smaller much cheaper cart costs you $45
>larger much more expensive cart
>$50

hey watch the nx cart be smaller than their blu ray wii u disk HA enjoy your 4gb games nintendcucks
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>>336646309
And my post got fucked last second

Though using cardboard boxes at least makes them recyclable
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>>336621892
The absolute madmen
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>>336646346
I'm still surprised Microsoft, out of all companies managed to give you free ONE digital copied of 360 games you own as long as they are bc supported
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>>336638828
/v/ gets btfo really hard but they dont learn
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>>336646561

I wish all physical media was like that. I was surprised too when I first heard about this, especially after all the "TV TV TV! Internet connection on all the time!" shit. I guess this creates good will.
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>>336625471
>posted on april 2nd
hang on a minute
ignoring that

>skyrim
HD resolution minimum graphics 25-30 fps

>fallout 4
minimum graphics and sub hd resolution
20-25 fps
HOW
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>>336647068
The One right now is not the One-idea that they showed when they revealed it

Arguably it's better right now than the PS4 is all aspects and even the Games with Gold thing actually gives somewhat GOOD games and not shovelware only like the PSN deals.

The one thing it can't do right is capture gameplay as good as the PS4 and in a era where everyone wants to live off youtube it works
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>>336647451
>"The One"
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>>336638518
>SSD
Stop saying this. It's flash storage. A solid state drive USES flash storage, but it isn't flash storage.

Have you never heard of Chinese Whispers? Stop this shit, and call it what it is.
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>>336637103
It feels like an eternity since I've seen that emote
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>>336637953
>Owning something as vague as a license.
Physical media is for the true hobbyists.
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>>336647451
>The One
You mean the all in one entertainment system?
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>>336626193
>>336626440
>>336626580
>>336626696
>>336644778
>>336645295
>>336645615

HD is overkill on such a small screen, so you can play it at 480p and it's still bearable
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>>336648865
>>336648226
That's the name, nothing i can do about that
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