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I dare you to find a better track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9zxXN1rx0
>>336617868
ez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0LdIZ8TWYo
>>336617868
Best in the series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALbVEmzY5S4
>>336618039
winner
>>336618039
Either this or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA614N3IHD4
>mfw 1:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuHzagjqOLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKk6XqcmB4Q
>>336618697
>mfw 1:44
>>336618697
>>336619683
Seriously though I fucking love that track and the soundtrack overall. Best OST I've heard in years.
>>336618039
this is the one i wanted to see posted, good job anon
>>336617948
>>336618039
>>336618697
You guys are crazy. These don't hold a candle to Gherman's theme.
>>336618697
I was going to post this one! Beat me to it, friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICSk8-pJkX8
Fine, this one is second best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg52ySSXv0s
This one always stuck out to me.
>>336621242
>this one is second best
That is true.
>>336617868
https://youtu.be/HL1UzIK-flA?t=4m4s
>>336621242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHIkUzmNmc0
>>336621242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3nR_4F1anI
>>336617868
That's not even the best track in its own game
https://youtu.be/fiOpW4H8qAw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2COYyuNMOkM
>>336621650
That must be weird as fuck to be in a room with that being played live.
>>336621750
lol! That's fucking awesone.
Post your favorite tracks in Soulsborne
>Demon's Souls
https://youtu.be/9piElENpvmM
>Dark Souls
https://youtu.be/AB6sOhQan9Y
>Dark Souls 2
N/A
>Dark Souls 3
https://youtu.be/ajq6MFS_ysM
>Bloodborne
https://youtu.be/fiOpW4H8qAw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikWGbtXIBr4
powerful
>>336622392
>Demon's Souls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ESqvGzdnvs
>Dark Souls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpI-KeK-PQg
>Dark Souls II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub-bg-rmEF4
>Dark Souls III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVHpOHQum5o
>Bloodborne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALbVEmzY5S4
Besides Ludwig's theme, I also really like Blood-Starved Beast's theme. Really stuck to me with how frantic it gets towards the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvUmL8uaE48
I loved that BBs OST was more about instruments and less about chorus that overshadows everything else, especially DS2 had some bad contenders.
DS3 toned it down a bit though
>>336622728
>Nameless Song
God I fucking love it.
>>336622728
>Demon's Souls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFjotdhdBLM
>Dark Souls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jqdwkt3gDU
>Dark Souls II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztPGThfD_GY
>Dark Souls III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9weE9wO5LU
>Bloodborne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaoyKECQnPw
Rate me, faggots
>noSoul of Cinder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9dNrmGD7mU
>>336622986
Those are the worst tracks right?
I love the Tower Knight fight, but man that theme
HA HAHA HAHA HAHH HAHAHA
>>336622392
>Demon's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bN11gxgkQ4
>Dark
tie between
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6sOhQan9Y
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs59egXnb3c
>Dark 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnoZG6iCbjU
>Bloodborne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA614N3IHD4
>Dark 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9dNrmGD7mU
>>336617868
I can't.
>>336623146
If you say you went into that boss fight and did not get hyped, I will call you a fucking liar.
>>336623381
I did back then, but after listening to the themes again this one is one of the worst in the series
It's not about the fight, it's about the theme
>>336622986
when does that BB song play?
>>336618697
This should have been the OP.
>>336623553
Father Gascoigne fight
>>336623641
Don't remember it at all. Probably all the growls and shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stWae6r7Blw
How has nobody said this yet? It's the best song and it's not even in the actual game
>>336623705
I don't blame you for not remembering it, you probably was busy getting your shit kicked in like we all did the first time.
>>336623754
literally impossible
Couldn't get past this part
>>336623824
You got there? Way better than me, bro.
>>336623705
I turned down all the other audio a bit on my second playthrough and it was great. Makes the boss fights even more memorable
This wasn't even meant to be a Souls thread, but it's turning out great.
Here's my favourites: pic
>>336621878
That's beautiful.
>>336623754
It's okay. Dark Souls 2 had an amazing menu theme. Same for Majula.
Shame the game is a wadded up cumrag
>>336623824
>>336623885
summon me you fuckin plebs. I'll handle this
>>336624002
Nah man, i won't risk getting invaded by some twinks
>Bloodborne is legitimately the best out of all the souls games
>get shitposted with SONYGGER constantly for just trying to praise it
>>336623981
The menu theme was great. It had that weird negative sounding, dark chant then became slightly peaceful.
>>336621242
By far my favourite "traditional" track in the game.
Everyone else is wrong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFRaZs6ri7s
>>336624224
Bloodborne was my least favourite "game" but it had my favourite story. It so weird, super natural and loopy, which is right up my alley. Dark Souls 1 & 3 are my favourite games though.
>>336624372
How can you like 3 and not BB? 3 is literally BB's gameplay strapped to Dark Souls.
my favorite from bloodporne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BihcP_GduOk
>>336624085
Why would we get invaded by small, gay asian men?
>>336624369
When I played though Dark Souls 3, none of the soundtracks stood out to me oddly enough. I played through the entire game with a friend and the boss music was always loud enough that I couldn't hear my friend on chat. It's always a world of difference to just listen to the song itself.
>>336624369
best track in ds3 for sure
>>336624224
Nice bait senpai
>>336624459
One of my favourite aspects of Dark Souls 1 was all of the really nice looking armour sets. I almost felt disappointed that there was virtually no armour, just clothing. That game thought me to play without a shield though. After playing Bloodborne, I never played a souls game with a shield again.
>>336624487
>cleric beast
>blood moon
>>336623146
Worst?!
Sir alonne theme makes me wet my pants
>>336624846
You know you can ignore the Cleric Beast fight entirely, right? You could play it during the Blood Moon phase.
>>336623146
>not loving the des trumpets
you're a fag.
>>336617868
I haven't even played this game, and nothing in any of the games is beating this theme. It's so fucking good, what's the implication of the music? It sounds dire and final
>>336624846
>orange
>paleblood
It's the evening sun, partially obscured by clouds.
>>336625267
It's the theme to the last or second last boss of the game. Depending on the choices you made throughout the game. It's quite a sad story, like most of the Souls games. It's worth looking into.
>>336622728
>Dark Souls
Wrong.
Correct is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZVyHH-voR8
>Dark Souls III
Extremely wrong.
Correct is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFRaZs6ri7s
>>336625267
To explain would be to spoil it a really crucial part of the game.It's the last or 2nd to last (depending on your track through thr game) boss's theme. It rivals MGS boss fights in terms of beauty and impact. I felt like crying it was so cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxbJ7O8iAfI
This track will forever be my favourite.
All wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rdt5XNvPkc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFRaZs6ri7s
Without a doubt the best track in the entire series, the kick in during phase 2 is absolutely unrivalled.
Not even Ludwig's theme gave me the same feels
Probably the best atmosphere as well to be honest.
>>336621242
I prefer Laurence theme.
Actually I prefer Laurence in general.
>>336625681
>phase 2 starts
>that scream
Biggest "OH SHIT" moment in Bloodborne, by far.
>>336623136
Rehash
>>336625821
This was my favorite fight in the game just because of the entire atmosphere and story.
>>336625821
>Probably the best atmosphere as well to be honest.
Oceiros is rivals it.
Unfortunately he plays a very small and optional role.
>>336625681
Phase 1 is amazing, phase 2 sucks. It doesn't even loop properly.
>>336624980
yup, clric beast is actually an optional fight
>>336622728
Fuuuuuuck. I haven't heard that Demon's Souls one is years.
>>336626432
*in.
>>336626432Prepare to feelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI33I5rGAuE
>>336618039
this is better than OPs but you have to wait 4 minutes before it even gets good.
>>336617868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezcNxSfa3Tg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-x3qR8ZsXk&feature=iv
both of these are better
>>336627087
I actually like Ludwig's first phase more than the second one.
>>336621650
Do you think any of these people looked at the game afterwards and were shocked at what their music is accompanying?
>>336627268
I think they had at least a general idea of what they were composing for.
there can be no other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqhqbsdpAXo
>>336625328
It's in FRONT of the clouds and the clouds themselves are purplish like during the blood moon, and in game the moon is in front of the clouds anyway
I now realise that the best boss fights in every Souls game are the ones where you're fighting 1v1 with another human.
>>336627538
Sorry to burst your bubble, but those clouds are in front of it.
>>336627743
Get your eyes checked.
>>336627687
>Ludwig
>Manus
>Princes
>Nameless
>1v1 with another human
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TluPWafPTek
I don't think there's another theme in the game that so appropriately conveys "you're gonna get your shit kicked in"
>>336625681
HUAAAAAAAAARGHHH
AUUUUUUUUGGHHHHH
If we were to rate the main menu songs;
DS2 > DS1 > BB > DS3 > DeS
>>336628171
>spending more than 1 second in the main menu
>>336628328
This.
>>336627828
Hmmm, the patters on that moon match awfully well with those clouds.
>>336628328
Well i take my time to look at all the options menus and the first impression i get is usually the main menu song
>>336628328
wow such elitist much skill
Why not listen to Linkin Park while you speedrun the game with your Estoc character
>>336621570
This is a criminally underrated track.
It's fucking incredible
>>336628412
Considering there are large swathes of color going behind the moon there, and the fact that in game the setting sun doesn't leave the sky any color remotely similar to that, and the fact that you can save Cleric Beast to be among the final bosses in your playthrough.
Look at all those clouds. You see that darkest patch of color on the moon there? Along the lower right? Kinda looks like it matches up with a dark spot on the clouds there. Now trace it down to the lower left, where it doesn't follow.
It's the moon dude. The Moon is canonically in front of clouds in game, too.
>>336618697
Fuckin hell this makes me want to go buy a ps4 and bloodborne
>>336628874
Just rent a PS4 if all you want is Bloodborne.
>>336627372
I was actually listening to the Old hunters OST ...
IMO the best of the best is ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCDEDi5gDPo&index=4&list=RD-rdt5XNvPkc
Laurance the first Vicar OST is the best of the best
>>336628667
It is, but I never noticed it before because when I fight Logarius I'm always too tense to concentrate on the music.
Come on guys, Dark Souls 2 had some alright tracks, more bombastic sure. But I thought 99% of the tracks from the other games sound almost identical and were just a series of humming and generic orchestra.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNhqsri8Mdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSbjIFx4Hxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alTQiC6hhGc
>>336629001
Objectively true
>>336622392
>Demon's souls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_bbALTxXpg
>Dark Souls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsps0I58yUM
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh53Jn7L4iE
since theres nothing else this optimistic in any of the other games
>dark souls 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZBlhNOWlTY
>BloodBorne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaoyKECQnPw
>Dark Souls 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stWae6r7Blw
>>336627339
I'd love to see that conversation.
"Ok so for this one you're fighting a giant horse/man abomination in a river of blood and corpses and he has a gaping mouth with eyeballs growing out of it. Around the halfway part he regains some semblence of sanity so if you could try to get across the idea of a sane man trapped in a horrific body while wading through corpses that would be fantastic"
>>336627538
>clouds are in the atmosphere
>moon/sun is outside of the atmosphere
how would clouds be behind the sun/moon?
>>336629814
play the FUCKING GAME
holy FUCK
>>336629814
There's an in game reasonit's not a moon
>>336621650
Oh my lord. I orgasmed like 6 times during this shit.
>>336621750
desu I pissed myself laughing at this holy fuck
>>336629814
that's no moon
>>336628995
where do you rent a ps4
>>336630363
???????? you can rent a ps4??????
>>336630417
why i look half-asian?????
>>336630096
Best. Ever.
>>336630472
You could have squinted too hard trying to see your dick maybe? Your eyes probably got stuck like that.
>>336617868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIT8FK_50Vs&index=2&list=RDHw4WADAjUZs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiboHWwr12M
>>336622728
Oceiros one is fucking great with the dialogue.
I guess more people haven't triggered it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_mJUwgwhgQ
>>336631589
When this music started to play I (and I imagine plenty of others) immediately thought "Fuck, what did I just do"
>>336617948
this is trash tier, all of ds3 tracks are
overdone
>>336630363
Where do you live?
Just search [your country] console renting. Usually it's like 15-20 bucks a week. I rented an Xbone just to play Sunset Overdrive and I still regret it lmao.
>>336632175
You go through a boss gate, you expect to hear boss music.
When this starts up unexpectedly you really do start wonder what the fuck you just did and what is going to come next.
>>336631589
All of the souls betrayal endings are so evil. I've never choses them because I know I'd feel terrible.
>>336632241
Dark Souls III has some great tracks, but Abyss Watcher is definitely not one of them.
It's one of my least favorite tracks in the series.
>>336631589
I love the parting line the Fire Keeper gives from this point on. "Farewell Ashen One. May'st thou peace discover."
I wonder what the combined total minutes this song played because of players repeatedly getting fucked during this fight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX51T-EipOo
>>336632357
lmao I had to check, I live in portland. I can't find a ps4, but I can rent a x1 for 40 dollars a day.
I loved the Bloodborne OST, but this is by far my favorite song in the series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVHpOHQum5o
>>336633174
Wow.
i haven't gone through all the links but i seriously hope this has been posted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9dNrmGD7mU
>>336626052
Call me batshit crazy, but Oceiros' theme reminded me of the Culling of Stratholme's theme for some reason.
>>336629001
Any From game that uses organ music is 10/10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGDY4r951Zc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20XREf55X9E
>>336633961
I can't remember if DS1 or 2 had organ driven tracks. Does anyone remember if I missed them?
>>336630096
What is it then?
>>336634164
The moon presence beckoned by Laurence and his associates. Paleblood.
Three third cords.
Am I the only one that never even notices the music in the Souls boss fights because I'm too focussed on the fight that the music goes completely unnoticed?
Surely it can't just be me.
>>336634347
i don't really notice them the first playthrough
minus >>336633578
>when the piano starts playing
>>336625267
Two people fight to free one another.
I hope this is not a souls only thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGjwXI0n5-I
>>336634347
honestly dont remember any from BB or Ds3 besides the obvious gwyn motif. I think they stopped making the songs catchy after Dark Souls 1 so they're all pretty unmemorable. Also they started to do this thing where a song doesnt actually kick in until you take half a bosses health bar down and though cool in concept its dumb when the first half of the song sucks or vice versa in some rare cases
>>336634252
Okay, so paleblood refers to the Moon Presence?
What does Laurence have to do with this?
The moon is or is controlled by the Moon Presence?
What do you mean by three thirds cords? Don't have have the 3 1/3 cords?
>>336635067
The Byrgenwerth spider conceals all manner of rituals, and keeps our lost master from us.
A terrible shame. It makes my head shudder uncontrollably.
>>336635067
>What does Laurence have to do with this?
Laurence controls the church, who distribute the Great One's blood, which fuck things up to the edge of apocalypse.
>The moon is or is controlled by the Moon Presence?
Either or.
>What do you mean by three thirds cords? Don't have have the 3 1/3 cords?
Just means that, yeah, you need the three one-thirds of the cords.
>>336635156
When you kill Rom, it makes all Amygdalas visible and also triggers the blood moon phase. The rest, you're speaking in code.
>>336635416
Master Willem was right. Evolution without courage will be the ruin of our race.
>>336635416
>When you kill Rom, it makes all Amygdalas visible and also triggers the blood moon phase.
But! If you Hunter's Mark out after killing Rom, no such blood moon is summoned. You have to interact with the Queen of Yharnam, still mourning over her dead child, for the blood moon to make itself apparent.
>>336618039
Bloodborne is the only one I haven't played and I fully admiti that this is my favorite theme desu.
>>336635324
Isn't Laurnece that Frist Vicar boss. He became he first Chalice Beast or something. So he spread the blood that spread the beast disease. How does that beckon the moon presence?
>>336635490
Good point.
>>336635854
Seek paleblood to transcend the hunt.
To escape this dreadful Hunter's Dream, halt the source of the spreading scourge of beasts, lest the night carry on forever.
>>336617868
why was bloodborne so god-tier brehs?
why did dark souls 3 suck so much?
>>336635854
>How does that beckon the moon presence?
The Healing Church came in contact with the Great Ones for the first time thanks to Ebrietas.
The school of Mensis, which is part of the Church, tried to summon the Moon Presence with a ritual that would have granted a body to Mergo, that would have been used as an offering.
>>336636178
Bloodborne was new and a chance for Miyazaki to do all the things he was wanting to and Dark Souls 3 was forced under contract with Bandai Namco. The quality of a publisher in any given situation makes all the difference.
>>336617868
that's not cleric beast
>>336636014
So seek the moon presence to transcend the hunt. If you kill the moon presence, you become a baby great one (replacing the moon presence?)
Isn't the moon presence the creator of the nightmare? Do you now host the nightmare, even though you become a baby?
>To escape this dreadful Hunter's Dream, halt the source of the spreading scourge of beasts, lest the night carry on forever.
So by killing the moon presence, you end the nightmare?
>>336636432
The Mensis ritual must be stopped, lest we all become beasts.
Madmen toil surreptitiously in rituals to beckon the moon. Uncover their secrets.
>>336636432
>If you kill the moon presence, you become a baby great one (replacing the moon presence?)
Yes, if you consume the umbilical cords.
>Isn't the moon presence the creator of the nightmare? Do you now host the nightmare, even though you become a baby?
Yes.
>So by killing the moon presence, you end the nightmare?
There's no way to end the nightmare as far as I know. You can however escape by letting Gehrman kill you at the end of the Night.
>>336636229
So the queen of Yharnam had a baby, Mergo. The baby died during birth? Is that why it doesn't have a body? The baby is a spirit? You hear it crying, but it's invisible, like the Wet-nurse is.
So this would be ritual would have summoned the moon presence and given Mergo a body. And that body would have been the offering of this ritual? Why would they want to summon the moon presence in the first place? Isn't it against all the other great ones for some reason?
>>336636826
The Great Ones are sympathetic in nature, and will often answer when called upon.
>>336636775
>You can however escape by letting Gehrman kill you at the end of the Night.
But Eileen/Djura are still caught up in the hunt, but they don't dream anymore.
>>336634949
The sound effects are also louder than the background music so it drowns it.
>>336636826
>The baby died during birth?
"Every Great One loses its child, and then yearns for a surrogate."
Queen Yharnam has a gaping hole in her womb, the baby was taken away from her.
Maybe Mergo never developed a body because of her premature abortion, or maybe she's formless because that's just how she is. Some great ones don't have a body, Oedon for example.
>Why would they want to summon the moon presence in the first place?
They wanted to discover the eldritch truth and transcend humanity.
>>336637048
They did, and they're not part of the hunt anymore.
Eileen is a hunter of hunters, Djura is retired.
>>336637371
>they're not part of the hunt anymore
but they're still caught up in the fuckfest.
>>336636775
So if you kill Gherman, it's implied that you allowed him to escape the nightmare?
If you escape the nightmare, you wake up in Yharnam. Is that the "real" world? Is that who beast plague just in the nightmare? Is real Yharnam just a normal place?
Even if you kill the creator of the nightmare, it continues? How does that work? The Moon Presence, Orphan of Kos and Mergo's Wet-Nurse are the only bosses that say "Nightmare Slain". Are all 3 of them hosting the nightmare?
>>336636645
The mensis ritual is what would have summoned the moon presence and sacrifices Mergo's body? What purpose would that serve and why would it cause everyone to turn into a beast?
>>336636981
So if they help people, why is the main character killing them? To escape the dream?
>>336637596
>So if they help people, why is the main character killing them? To escape the dream?
They don't understand what they're doing to humans when they "help" them. Any more than we can understand ants. Humans and Great Ones are beyond each others' comprehension, but Great Ones are sympathetic, meaning if they're called upon, they'll try to help. Humans wanted insight to evolve and grow, but they didn't expect to lose their sanity in the process to become powerful beasts.
>>336637536
It's their own choice.
>>336637596
If you kill Gehrman you allow him to escape the nightmare, but if you don't consume the umbilical cords you take his place.
>If you escape the nightmare, you wake up in Yharnam. Is that the "real" world?
Yes.
>Is that who beast plague just in the nightmare? Is real Yharnam just a normal place?
When you visit Yharnam during the hunt you're still in the waking world. The scourge of the beast is real, but it ends along with the night of the hunt.
>Even if you kill the creator of the nightmare, it continues?
Yes, see Honoring Wishes ending. "And so, the hunt begins again".
>The Moon Presence, Orphan of Kos and Mergo's Wet-Nurse are the only bosses that say "Nightmare Slain". Are all 3 of them hosting the nightmare?
Moon Presence is the source the Nightmare's Dream, Orphan is the source the Hunter's Nightmare (the DLC), Nurseis the source of the Nightmare of Mensis. Each nightmare has a human host (Gehrman, Maria, Micolash).
>>336637371
So the Wet-Nurse stole Mergo from the queen? So Amygdala, the Wet-Nurse, Moon Presence, Emissary, Rom and Ebrietas all lost a child? They're all female? Did they each find a surrogate? Was Gherman the moon presence's surrogate?
>>336637759
Interesting. So insight causes people to go mad. So the world is ravaged by this beast disease. Is it the insight, the blood or both that caused the plague?
>>336617868
>Dull and generic piece with some opera chorus on it
>the same shit you can find on any medieval game ever
>good
SonyCucks are so funny.
>>336638198
It's pretty clearly stated somewhere that the blood itself being ministrated into everybody's veins by the Healing Church (that also is a miracle cure and so forth) is what transforms people into beasts, they found that Old Blood in the Chalice Dungeons (the Labyrinth), and it's implied the same mistake was made by the people of Loran, and they had their own beast scourge that destroyed their lands.
>>336637596
>The mensis ritual is what would have summoned the moon presence and sacrifices Mergo's body? What purpose would that serve and why would it cause everyone to turn into a beast?
The Mensis ritual is supposed to create a body for Mergo (the One Reborn), that would function as a surrogate child for the Moon Presence.
The ritual would turn everyone into beasts because the moon accelerates beasthood.
>>336638198
>So the Wet-Nurse stole Mergo from the queen?
I think so.
>So Amygdala, the Wet-Nurse, Moon Presence, Emissary, Rom and Ebrietas all lost a child? They're all female?
Amygdala is male (Patches calls him "Lord Amygdala"), Moon Presence too I think. He could be Mergo's original father.
>>336637596
>Is that the "real" world?
It's all real, dude. The dream worlds are just different dimensions and stuff, just as tangible as the regular plane.
It's Lovecraft mythos, not "WAS IT ALL A DREAM??" bullshit.
>>336637596
>Even if you kill the creator of the nightmare, it continues?
They create a certain Dreamland, which is self-sustaining within itself after conception. MP created the Hunter's Dream, Mergo's Wet Nurse created the Nightmare of Mensis, OoK created the Hunter's Nightmare. They don't necessarily host their particular Dreamlands, but they create them.
>>336638198
>So Amygdala, the Wet-Nurse, Moon Presence, Emissary, Rom and Ebrietas all lost a child?
Either have or will, yes.
>They're all female?
I think Great Ones transcend gender honestly.
>Was Gherman the moon presence's surrogate?
Yeah, and you were the Doll's surrogate some people think.
>Is it the insight, the blood or both that caused the plague?
Blood caused the scourge of the beasts, while insight caused insanity.
Since we have lore junkies in here, why does OoK have Gherman's whimper in it's opening cutscene?
>>336638761
>Mergo's Wet Nurse created the Nightmare of Mensis
I think it's Mergo himself that powers the Nightmare of Mensis, as you kill the Wet Nurse, a good 30 seconds later after Mergo's crying stops you get the Nightmare Slain message.
>>336638872
Obviously Gehrman tapped that Kos the Celestial Beached Milf when none of the other Byrgenwerth researchers were looking
Ornstein and Smugh OST>the rest
>>336638163
When does the nightmare begin?
So if you end the nightmare, it also ends the scourge in the real world. If the nightmare begins again, each time it's ended, does the real world scourge begin again as well, or is it only the nightmare that continues?
The honouring wishes ending takes place when the moon presence still being alive.
So the Nightmare's Dream encompasses both the Hunter's Nightmare and Nightmare of Mensis, or are all 3 separate?
>>336638560
What? Okay. I can understand that. They're both fucked up worlds, both with the same scourge? What's the point of having two of the same worlds? So you want to leave to return to your original dimension?
>>336638761
So the mad ones are victims of the insight, beasts are the victims of the blood? So there's those 2 issues going around.
I swear, I've played through this game, read so many wikis, watched lore videos and I still have trouble understanding this game's lore/story and that's why I love it. This rivals Neon Genesis Evangelion in terms of story mind fuckery.
>>336638872
I'm not exactly sure, but Orphan and Gehrman are definitely connected.
When you kill Orphan the doll will tell you that for the first time she heard Gehrman sleeping peacefully.
When Byrgenwerth raided the Fishing Hamlet and killed all its inhabitants the last survivor (the beggar you meet at the beginning) cursed them, all their children and the children of their children. I think Orphan, which is a great one and therefore "sympathetic in spirit" listened to his prayers and created the curse.
The exponents of the Healing Church are the successors of Byrgenwerth, and the hunters are their successors. Gehrman worked with the Church, and inherited the curse. By killing Orphan, you free Gehrman from his curse.
>>336639325
Gherman and Maria murdered the Orphan of Kos, yes.
Since Gherman was the First Hunter (at least as far as Yharnam goes) all other hunters inherited the curse. Or maybe it's just the blood that's cursed. w/e
>>336639217
>When does the nightmare begin?
I think it started when the Healing Church summoned the Moon Presence.
Moon Presence captivated Gehrman and made him the host of his dream.
>So the Nightmare's Dream encompasses both the Hunter's Nightmare and Nightmare of Mensis, or are all 3 separate?
They're different dimensions.
>>336638876
>I think it's Mergo himself that powers the Nightmare of Mensis
Yeah, you're right, sorry. Yharnam's womb was "blessed" with a child (Mergo), that was meant for a Great One, and the Wet Nurse cared for Mergo in place of the Great One who used Yharnam as a surrogate. Which Great One stole Mergo is not known.
>>336638872
>>336639325
Who else to torture but the First Hunter, and the man who ransacked an innocent village? Keep in mind Gherman uses a scythe and the OoK uses a placenta shaped like a scythe.
>>336639460
>Or maybe it's just the blood that's cursed.
Nah, all hunters are cursed. The Priest at the beginning of the Fishing Hamlet tells us that.
>>336639325
Gehrman was from Byrgenwerth, and so were Laurence, Maria, probably Simon and Ludwig and the other old Hunters, and of course Willem, (all speculation but they're all in the know in the nightmare it seems and were probably all the folk from Byrgenwerth that began their research on the Fishing Hamlet people who got transformed from worshipping the beached mother Kos) and they, including Gehrman and Maria, all feel particularly guilty about their research at the hamlet and in the Research Hall, so that's why Gehrman is at peace once you kill the Orphan, and why Maria entered a pact with either the Orphan or with Kos' writhing consciousness to keep the Hamlet and its people safe in the Nightmare, where she serves as the host and the gatekeeper to it. I think it's powered by the Orphan, since a black ghost thing over Kos' corpse that you have to hit to end it is in the shape of the Orphan. Just what I think makes sense.
>>336639583
>Yeah, you're right, sorry. Yharnam's womb was "blessed" with a child (Mergo), that was meant for a Great One, and the Wet Nurse cared for Mergo in place of the Great One who used Yharnam as a surrogate. Which Great One stole Mergo is not known.
I see several distinct possiblities:
-Mergo doesn't power the nightmare, the Wet Nurse does; the nightmare slain and Mergo silencing were just her dying and no longer sustaining either of them.
-Mergo powers the nightmare as a pact with Micolash being the host
-Maybe the Wet Nurse was called upon by Micolash and co to keep Mergo safe and protected and cared for
-The Wet Nurse is a conjuration of Mergo's craving a mother figure since he lacks one
I think it's down to interpretation.
>>336639781
>he lacks one
He has one. You meet her like right before the boss battle.
>>336639935
Obviously but she doesn't get to the Nightmare till you kill Rom and uncover the Mensis situation, until then he and Yharnam were forced apart form each other and she wanted him back
>>336639935
Mergo was separated from her original parents, and the Wet Nurse takes care of her.
I doubt that Yharnam can actually interact with the child, which is why she cries before you kill Wet Nurse, and thanks you when you kill her.
Bloodborne has this weird thing with babies. Who is the Orphan of Kos and orphan of? He's apparently born as you enter the boss arena. He also attacks you with a fucking placenta.
>>336640185
>Who is the Orphan of Kos and orphan of?
Kos
I also think he was already born but had crawled back into the womb instinctually, the village elder person at the start of the hamlet makes mentioned of "the poor wizened child"
>>336639325
What is the curse? What does it do?
>>336639551
Ah, so they're all different. Interesting. When does your character enter the dream? Apparently the game begins in your original world.
>>336639781
>Mergo powers the nightmare as a pact with Micolash being the host
Micolash is a host only in the sense that he beckoned the Wet Nurse. The Wet Nursing conceived the Nightmare of Mensis.
>>336639217
>When does the nightmare begin?
The "nightmare" begins when the PC wakes up after blood ministration. The nightmare is when the scourge of the beast reaches a breaking point and a hunter is beckoned by the Hunter's Dream to fix everything. This nightmare realm's creation is dependent on normal Yharnam's condition. Likewise, this nightmare influences Yharnam as well.
>So if you end the nightmare, it also ends the scourge in the real world.
Yes, if the called upon Hunter follows Gherman's guidance, then the "real" Yharnam's scourge is dealt with, and things calm down until it'll happen again, and another Hunter is called upon.
>each time it's ended, does the real world scourge begin again as well
Technically, yes, but it is at a much lesser point than when a Hunter is called to deal with it. The nightmare is on hold until another Hunter is called.
>They're both fucked up worlds, both with the same scourge?
The nightmare realm's creation is dependent on normal Yharnam's condition.
>So the mad ones are victims of the insight, beasts are the victims of the blood? So there's those 2 issues going around.
can you clarify this?
>>336640317
>What is the curse?
To be doomed to an endless hunt upon death in the Hunter's Nightmare. Maria actually had still been trapped in the Nightmare when you found her, she had tried to kill herself to escape the Nightmare and cease existence in all dimensions, but couldn't, as a result of the curse.
>>336640185
>Who is the Orphan of Kos and orphan of?
He's Kos' child obviously, Kos is the carcass you see on the Hamlet Coast. Every Great One loses its child, and Kos lost her own by dying before his birth.
>>336640410
You become part of the dream after being injected with Yharnam blood by a Blood Minister like the one in the intro.
>>336640410
When you die to the werewolf at the clinic. Or when you transport to it at the lantern or whenever you die.
Yharnam isn't a Dream guys. The only dream realms are the places specifically labeled Nightmares and Dreams. Yharnam is real, and so is the night of the hunt.
>>336640917
>Yharnam is real
The dreams are real, bro.
There's no dream-twist, they're just places.
>>336640917
Dream refers to another dimension, it's all real nigger.
>>336641085
No shit, stop calling Yharnam a dream though.
>>336641014
>>336641085
True,his point is that Yharnam is part of the Waking World.
It's the plane of existence where the main character (and everyone else) was born.
>>336640275
How strange. He appears to be a fully grown adult humanoid. I don't understand why his mother looks so different. She's an actual sea creature and he's a man of sorts?
>>336640492
There is the beast issue coming from the blood. Then there is the insanity issue coming from the insight granted by the great ones. I'm was just looking for an example of someone who became insane from the insight, but is unaffected by the beast scourge.
>>336640698
Oh, so like in all other souls games. The curse just means you can't die and have to continue your quest.
>>336641014
>>336641085
>>336641126
>>336641158
That wouldn't make much sense to me. Your goal is to leave the dream. If the dreams are just places, then Gherman wouldn't need to kill you to release you from the dream, you would just leave using the lanterns like you do 1000 times during the game.
>>336641907
You can't abandon the dream until the night ends.
>>336641907
You're bound to the Hunter's Dream by contract, and your contract as a Hunter being hired for the town's defense is to end the beast scourge for the evening. That's what it means to leave the dream. If you let Gehrman kill you, he ends your contract, and you wake up, no longer bound to the dream. "Wake up" from him killing you.
>>336641907
>If the dreams are just places, then Gherman wouldn't need to kill you to release you from the dream, you would just leave using the lanterns like you do 1000 times during the game.
The thing is the lanterns only facilitate movement to two dimensions, and the original dimension where you received the blood ministration is not one of them.
>>336641014
>>336641085
>>336641907
the "dreams" and "nightmares" in this case are obviously alternate dimensions, even when you "awake" using the hunters dream you're still sleeping, when you die in a dream you wake up
almost everything in the dream also happened in real life (byrgenwerth being considered forbidden, scourge, etc etc) while others may not, like the snake dudes in the woods or the church giants
here you're revived, you're trapped, so there's that too, you can't leave because mergo fucked everything up when the mensis ritual summoned him
>>336641907
You take a contract that binds you to the Hunter's Dream. It is the first thing that happens in the game.
>>336641907
>an example of someone who became insane from the insight, but is unaffected by the beast scourge
Madman Wallar and the other Tomb Prospectors.
>>336642105
this explains it well too
>get old blood
>transported to alternate dimension
which is why the guy isnt there anymore
the bloodbeast in the intro probably represents madness, scourge or bloodlust, and the messengers come to take you to the hunter's dream where you become a proper hunter
>>336642331
>which is why the guy isnt there anymore
he's dead in a corner if I remember correctly.
>>336642105
When you first arrive in Yharman, you're in your original world. Only after you die are you actualy transported into the dream "dimension". So that place where the game begins exists in both your world and the dream world. Would that not make the dream a full on copy of the original world? Making what those other guys said false.
>>336642262
maybe that npc at byrgenwerth too?
do kin count?
>>336642512
>that place where the game begins exists in both your world and the dream world
That's the real world.
It's one of the dimensions that can be accessed from the dream (the place where you meet Gehrman and the doll).
>>336642512
>Only after you die are you actualy transported into the dream "dimension".
Nope, after you wake up following your blackout after recieving blood minitration you're in the nightmare. You don't have to die to go to the Hunter's Dream, you can run past/kill the first wolf and huntsman, and use the lantern thats in Central Yharnam.
>>336642538
Yuria isn't mad. Or at least, no more mad than any other Choir member. She's just very protective and desperate.
The best example of a madman, but not a transformed one, would be our old friend Micolash.
>>336642730
>after you wake up following your blackout after recieving blood minitration you're in the nightmare
That's still the waking world.
>>336642730
Ah, my memory must be fuzzy. The blood ritual occurs before you can actually control your character then.
>>336642912
then why is there a lantern without you dying in that world?
>>336642809
He's probably talking about Willem.
>>336642512
here's a pic cause im autistic
you can go from hunters dream to dream yharnam and dream yharnam to the other 2 nightmares and cainhurst, which seems to be unaffected by the red moon
you cant go to real yharnam, since mergo(or moon presence?) is holding everyone hostage
I really have no idea whats up with MP
>>336643092
It's unclear whether or not Willem is brainfried or just in the midst of ascension or whatever the fuck.
>>336643073
Because after being injected with Yharnam blood you become a hunter and start seeing the messengers.
>>336643153
Nigga it's all real, dream-travelling is just a Lovecraft staple.
>>336643153
That's helpful.
>>336643153
>you cant go to real yharnam
You can access real Yharnam from the first headstone.
>>336643293
Im saying that its different dimension, that doesnt make it not real, dreams are used as an analogy for dimensions here obviously
>>336617868
>generic omg so sad :'( music
Fuck off. Why do Soulsfags pretend their shit game has decent music? It's all generic orchestra shit with SCARE CHORDS and OMINOUS LATIN CHANTING OOOOOOHHHHH. Completely shit taste.
>>336618697
fuck this, I fucking died cause i was paying more attention to the track than the fight.
>mfw 1:44
>>336643429
I'm talking about the original yharnam, the one you arrive in and receive blood, after you blackout, y ou're in the nightmare
>>336643583
>after you blackout, y ou're in the nightmare
No, you're still in the waking world.
>DeS soundtrack
>each song sounds different and has a more subtle approach to composition
>Dark Souls 1, 2, and 3, Bloodborne
>LE EPIC CHANTING EVERY SONG OVER THE TOP BUSY SHIT
What went so wrong?
>>336643262
I'm still not convinced that's the waking world. Anything else you can explain?
>>336643429
That ain't the waking world nigger. That's part of the nightmare where you're in the hunt.
>>336643429
>>336643697
I'm starting to think you're just a troll.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFLFsa1sYiA
Sorry but this is THE best and most memorable song in the entire souls series and any game in the past 5 years.
>>336643583
>I'm talking about the original yharnam, the one you arrive in and receive blood, after you blackout, y ou're in the nightmare
I gotta know what fucking brain hemorrhage you went through to decide that there are multiple Yharnams.
>>336643752
>Dark Souls 1
>Over the top chanting
>>336643759
>Anything else you can explain?
Yharnam has no host, and it wasn't created by a Great One. It's the only "nightmare" where you'll never see the "NIGHTMARE SLAIN" text.
The only nightmares in the game are Hunter's Nightmare, Hunter's Dream and Nightmare of Mensis. The Lecture Hall and Nightmare Frontier are also part of the dream realm, everything else is the "real" world.
The game takes place in the REAL WORLD. When you're not in a place specifically labeled a Dream or Nightmare you're in the real world. "Escaping the Dream" is fulfilling your contract in the Hunter's Dream.
By Kos, gain some eyes already.
>>336644072
Yharnam has no host because it's a real place, but I fail to see how you're in the waking world 24/7.
>>336644112
If by real world you count the multiple dimensions as real, then I agree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtHDsw4FioQ
>>336644253
Nice bloodborne screenshot.
>>336644228
You're in the waking world when you're in Yharnam.
You're in the dream realm when you enter one of the areas I mentioned in the previous post.
>>336644253
Neat. I think Dark Souls 2 only had 1 unused track and it was amazing.
>>336644228
I'm disagreeing with this shit just out of refusal to entertain that "it's all a dream" is remotely a thing, on account of being the lamest fucking plot twist to top all lame plot twists even conceived in the diarrhea of man.
Actually no souls games have a particularly amazing soundtrack.
It's actually unusual for a high profile Japanese game.
>>336644228
>If by real world you count the multiple dimensions as real, then I agree.
To be too clear to possibly leave any further interpretation or to be possibly disagreed with, the "Dream" realms, which means the Hunter's Nightmare, the Nightmare of Mensis (which consists of the Nightmare of Mensis, Lecture Hall, and Nightmare Frontier areas) and the Hunter's Dream are planes of reality conjured by various Great Ones.
Every other in game location you go to, which includes all areas not mentioned above, are the "real" world, as in, the base reality that is not conjured by a Great One, the natural world, the waking world, etc.
STOP TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT
>>336644228
>>336644339
The dreams and reality are layered atop of one another. You can go to real yharnam, and later on the dream 'descends' to overlap real yharnam, mixing the two.
I think how close the moon is represents how 'deep' in the dreamworld you are, naturally with the hunter's dream having the biggest moon and also the Moon Presence nearby.
>>336644436
>the lamest fucking plot twist to top all lame plot twists even conceived in the diarrhea of man.
something tells me you just got here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6sOhQan9Y
>>336644436
Clearly you haven't played the game and or you're just a troll.
>>336644463
>>336644493
Thank you. At least some people understand.
The DLC also rubs it in your face pretty thoroughly.
>>336644436
just because it happened in another dimension doesnt make it not real, but anyway, now i'm not so sure that the yharnam we play in is an alt dimension, since it has no "host"
still that doesnt explain how you're revived
>>336644571
The entire game isn't "all a dream" though you troll
