OW gameplay discussion thread
Why does this feel like a bad version of TF2?
because you're playing it wrong
>TF2 characters
>look at character, immediately know what they do
>the silhouettes are crisp, well defined, and have tons of personality
>OW characters
>giant monkey
>except him to be slow
>no he fucking LEAPS AROUND QUICKLY ???
>FIRES LIGHTNING IN FRONT OF HIM???
>DROPS A BARRIER THAT ABSORBS DAMAGE???
Okay that's retarded but lets look at the rest of the cast
>lesbian russian technoviking
>brazilian with some sort of speaker gun?
>and rollerblades?
>apparently he is a healer?
>cyborg ninja
>throws shurikens
>only uses a sword when he has his ultimate ability
>THE SWORD DOESNT EVEN OHKO
>rocket launcher flying girl
>flight is sweet, even if you're super vulnerable while doing it
>rockets do almost no damage compared to how much supports can heal
>what's the fucking point
>generic soldier unit with sprint and standard rifle
>has an AOE healing ability???
>what the fuck does this muslim triangle bitch even do
>qt blonde girl with angel wings
>can't fly, can only jump to allies
>isn't the best healer in the game, despite being the only one that looks like a healer
>korean girl that jumps into a mech? hell yeah that sounds sweet
>mech has almost no firepower, just two tiny machineguns
>can't even fly, it just kinda hovers for a bit
What the fuck, how did blizzard fuck up character concepts this badly
overwatch just went public beta and already forgotten
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>>336582936
Valve wasn't lying when they said their players are too stupid to play without obvious class/team indicators.
Remember when MvM was goig to have 3 blu and 3 red working together but beta faggots got confused and started shooting at each other?
Yeah thanks for proving it's real.
>baddies shitting on Overwatch
lelele someone got HIIIGHH NOOONED?
>>336583375
>my feelings = fact
lol
>>336583672
>>336583684
how is HOTS?
>>336583586
I eventually learned what every character does but none of it was intuitive.
The characters just feel wrong. The art and personality don't mesh with the gameplay.
>>336582936
because blizzcucks will eat this shit up
The artstyle and gameplay is unappealing to anyone that isn't a cuck
>>336582936
>autists cant have anything confusing or they'll throw tantrums
>mercy isnt the best healer
now you're just trolling, im not even gonna bite on the rest
>>336584062
Lucio is objectively the best healer
>>336583841
Not into mobas or whoever you call them so I don't know how it's doing.
>>336583865
>I eventually learned what every character does
The fact that you're bitching about not being able to identify what every character does says otherwise.
Your problem is that you're expecting it to be a clone of TF2 and expecting every single class to focus on a single thing.
How many of you idiots tried to double jump with Tracer for example?
>>336584521
OW is a TF2 clone by design, so of course people are going to draw comparisons between the two.
OW characters are way more specialized than TF2 characters were. The lack of secondary weapons hurts the game tremendously.
>>336583895
>Talking shit about OW's artstyle when TF2's has gone all over the place with pink/green paints, retarded cosmetics that have nothing to do with the style, and cancerous unusual effects that stick out like a sore thumb.
OW isn't for everyone, sure, but don't talk as if TF2 isn't full of faggots either.
>>336584521
>How many of you idiots tried to double jump with Tracer for example?
well fuck you got me
>>336584770
One thing is comparing, another is complaining because it's not TF2.
You're bitching because you can't tell what each class does by just looking at them. That's plain retarded.
>>336585130
"TF2 did it better" it not a complaint, it is a valid criticism
>>336584883
I wasn't really comparing it to TF2, though.
Honestly, TF2's style is still better, even with the shitty additions it has been getting the past few years.
TF2 vanilla is perfect, but OW is mere shit compared to even non-vanilla TF2.
I'm sure OW will get stupid cosmetics as well and look even worse
>>336585284
>I'm sure OW will get stupid cosmetics as well and look even worse
It already does, there are pirate costumes, and fantasy character costumes, and weird kinda racist nationality costumes.
>>336585184
And a wrong one too.
OW Medic is far more reliable than TF2 Medic.
Mercy has like all the mediguns the Medic has combined into one.
OW Heavy helps team mates shield and has healing.
OW Engie is split into 2 characters, one can focus on attack and other in defense.
OW doesn't have a class and I hope it stays that way
I can go on but I'll just stop there.
>>336583841
I don't understand this meme, HOTS is doing fine.
>>336585897
anon thats why its bad
IT'S NOT FUCKING DIFFICULT
>pocket gets hs'd before push
>pull back, hold with pyro and heavy, try to rethink strategy
>zarya gets killed before push
>LOL JUST REVIVE
>>336585284
>Have to bring up vanilla TF2 in order to prove a point when it's irrelevant.
Thanks for helping me understand what moving goalposts mean.
OW already has stupid cosmetics but the style is already cartoony enough that it still fits the style.
Meanwhile valve didn't gave a shit after the deus ex cosmetics and set the style it protected so much go to the shitter.
And no, someone with 2 unusuals, a pro KS, and an unusual weapon doesn't look good.
>>336586196
some cosms DO look good anon
you just need to theme it right
>>336586314
Except only a few people actually put effort in their cosmetics.
Most people want to be flashy faggots and make shit like pic related.
>>336582626
People need to speak up and abuse the fuck out of Bastion players, making them feel like the scum of the earth they are whenever they play him. there will always be 2+ Bastions in your game if you never speak up.
>>336582626
TF2 feels like a bad version of TF2 now.
>>336586196
Thanks for being an idiot and comparing what a game looks after 5 years to one just released, instead of comparing them both to how they were at release.
You're the one setting an unreasonable goalpost. Let's see what Overwatch looks like in 8 years when we've already got stuff like this in the game at launch.
ITT: Insecure TF2 faggots scared there's real competition now
Who gives a shit? Your shitty hat simulator won't go away anyways.
Cosmetic fags won't move in fear of not losing their shit.
People that actually likes to play the game are the ones moving to OW and they're not that many.
>>336586818
people playing comp tf2 find ow to be really easy desu
I played it for a few hours.
I feel like I already saw everything the game has to offers, and the skill ceiling is painfully low.
>Play of the game
>It's always just some guy holding M1 and awkwardly panning around as people run into gunfire, or at best someone patrolling around a point and killing 2-3 people who aren't paying attention
It's made it painfully obvious how little room there is for actual, skillful play. Things like Roadhog's grapple could have made for all kinds of cool plays if it had any sort of timing, follow through, or aiming involved. Instead it's hitscan which means it doesn't feel satisfying at all to pull people with. Random ultimate's that auto kill players, the lack of altfire for most of the cast, most characters having no unique movement options etc
It's just feels shallow
>>336587271
>play of the game
>PRESS Q TO WIN moment
>can't skip it
>can't leave game or you get penalized
>literally forced to sit there and watch this stupid shit
>>336586748
Do you have any idea of how idiotic that statement sounds?
We are comparing games at their current state since vanilla TF2 is irrelevant you fucking moron.
Oh and look at that, you want to compare OW 8 years from now when we don't even know if it'll be alive by then.
If you want to post shitty OW skins at least do your homework and post the ones that actually look bad like the punk tracer one.
What unreasonable goalposts? I followed the thread and you went from TF2 to vanilla TF2.
If you're going to defend your shitty game defend it on what it is, not on what it was.
>>336587380
>it's another "Bastion set up in a corner and the enemy team doesn't check for ambushes" episode
>>336587271
>Play of the Game
>Winston who got 1 kill, a turret kill, and an elimination from something he did before Play, SOLELY because he popped his Ultimate and did it
>Was one of (2) Junkrats in that match
>Got a triple Vanquish and a D.VA Mech kill, but didn't get Play cause I didn't use my Ult
This game needs some work on that system.
>>336586968
You mean those PRO players that were exposed to be hacking?
JUST IN TIME
>>336587525
>it's another "hanzo kills 5 people stupid enough to stand in his bullshit for 5 seconds" POTG
The game will probably be dead after a few months because there's zero depth and it's way too casual.
It will probably suffer the same fate as HotS.
>>336587380
>can't leave game or you get penalized
is this true? I've always been leaving as soon as "you win / lose" message lights up ever since the first beta
jesus
Is it actually even worth 59.99? 30, maybe.
>>336582626
Not even trolling, but this game is fucking horrible.
I've probably played about 25-30 hours since the beta launched over the past few days; I wanted to give it a fair chance because by all merits it SHOULD be a great game, but it just isn't.
What lets it down is the map design, mostly. Claustrophobic and horribly balanced for attackers / defenders (depending on map). Horrible variety in game modes, as well, and a personal peeve of mine is the insta-death ults. I know there's a lot of people who like to play CoD and garbage which has incredibly short kill times, but this game just isn't for me.
Huge let down.
>>336587271
I agree with that
I expect the game to be stale fast if you're good at FPS, it's painfully easy.
>>336587649
Yes you lose MMR if you leave before the score screen
>>336587551
>being ignorant
only the lower level trash players got exposed for LMAObox
>>336587693
>claustrophobic for either attackers or defenders depending on the map
I'll take "Asymmetric map design" for 400, Alex
>>336587723
Ah so UGC is lower leve trash now?
What ever happened to being top tier? Plenty of threads never shut up about it and it's suddenly low tier now?
lol
>>336587693
The most hilarious thing is that at low MMR the game is horribly imbalanced in favour of defenders. Attackers can never get their shit together and push as a team, they just keep going in solo and getting picked off.
Then at high MMR the game is horribly imbalanced in favour of attackers. Defenders can't do ANYTHING against a well-coordinated push with ultimate skills.
OW is poorly designed.
>>336587457
Not even the same guy you were talking you.
You're the one who brought TF2 up in the first place because you're salty as hell, vanilla TF2 is relevant because it had a coherent, well designed aesthetic at launch, while Overwatch doesn't. If TF2 is the trend to follow, Overwatch will be a hundred times worse in 8 years.
I love how you even admit the game you think is better than TF2 won't even live as long as TF2.
I posted a single bad one (and yes, it is fucking awful). I didn't say I posted every bad skin.
You yourself set the goalpost of comparing it to current TF2 when the first poster didn't even bring up TF2 at all, as I said.
I don't even fucking play TF2 anymore.
I've noticed this in a lot of threads but why are people having such hard times dealing with the maps?
>>336587832
It's always been low tier anon, the people gloating about it being top tier are stupid. ESEA-I/ETF2L Premier are the actual top tier leagues.
>>336587551
please tell me how a soldier, demo, pyro or a medic could be hacking in any way
only div 6 or div 5 guys get banned, and speaking of low skill, a div 5 guy could kick a top level OW player's ass in either game
>>336587827
Asymmetric doesn't automatically mean unbalanced. There's a heap of games which have asymmetric game-play which are far, far better than Overwatch. The dude is right. The map designs are horrible.
>>336587909
Tons of chokepoints and un-intuitive pathing
>>336582936
>characters are not cardboard cut out cliches
>autism 5000 has a meltdown
you cant make this shit up
I love how much this game pisses off the babies in here.
>>336588104
This game was made by babies for babies. So of course it'll piss off babies because it is a game for babies.
When is Tracer going to get nerfed?
>inb4 git gud xDD
Fuck you, she is unpunishable, she literally has 2 get out of jail free cards. So far the only I found is poo in the loo lady but even she is not that effective.
>>336588104
I don't think anyone in this thread has bust in to full autism mode over this game yet. Most people have posted pretty convincing arguments about why they personally find it a shit game.
>>336586818
Maybe you haven't played Tf2 properly, anon.
You know, there's more than valve and trading servers. There are server where people actually plays the game.
>>336588087
I'm not complaining that they aren't cliches, but rather that their design does not give you any indication of what they are supposed to be doing.
>>336587859
>Not even the same guy you were talking you.
>Jumping to others conversations like so
+1 idiocy
>You're the one who brought TF2 up in the first place because you're salty as hell
Uh no, trace the conversation back. Some idiot brought TF2 because OW wasn't like TF2.
>I love how you even admit the game you think is better than TF2 won't even live as long as TF2.
I am realistic, unlike you who lives in a world of delusion.
>I posted a single bad one (and yes, it is fucking awful). I didn't say I posted every bad skin.
For someone who thinks that TF2 looks good even after all the cosmetic shit they've added I find that statement to be pretty hypocrite.
>You yourself set the goalpost of comparing it to current TF2 when the first poster didn't even bring up TF2 at all, as I said.
Uh again, trace back.
>I don't even fucking play TF2 anymore.
Why the fuck are you even replying to me then?
ITT: niggers doesnt have 60 currency so they shit on other peoples fun
pathetic losers
>>336587952
>a div 5 guy could kick a top level OW player's ass in either game
You clearly have source on that, right?
Played both the PC and PS4 version. Even if you have a potato PC, get the PC version. Some characters such as Tracer are basically unplayable with a gamepad even if you're really good with a gamepad and you max the sensitivity out.
Also, from my experience the guys I was playing against on PS4 had no bloody idea what they were doing... and most of the time afk.
>>336588520
>>336588483
do you fucking hear yourself?
you just said that it doesnt bother you that they arent cliches but you want them to be more cliches
you colossal fucking retard
>>336588104
It's just TF2 babies complaining about it. They're scared to shits.
>>336588520
You can try to rationalize your purchase all you want, it doesn't change the fact that the game is incredibly shallow.
>>336588638
*or AFG/AFC rather
>>336588167
That makes no sense at all.
>>336588756
you can try to rationalize being a bitter cynical bitch but the game is tons of fun
>>336588838
It makes perfect sense you baby.
>>336588087
>characters are not cardboard cut out cliches
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
Korean? Give 'er a mech + be a lolli!
Brazilian? Capoeira style fitness instructor!
Lesbian? Stronk, purple haired womyn!
White? Either a common soldier or a common sheriff figure!
Asian? NINJA or fucking bow dragon bullshit!
European? German accent, blond hair check!
>tfw pharah lost her limbs somehow
>>336582626
I'm enjoying it good thing this is just the beta some things need to get Nerfed....Bastion
>its a randoms dont want to switch roles episode
seriously guys, we cant run 2 turretdorf on offense if none of you are playing Reinhardt.
>>336588889
He's talking about how that commenter mentions TF2 doesn't have cutout cliches.
Learn to read faggot. Your blind rage is showing.
>>336588723
Gameplay needs to match aesthetics. If I stab somebody I shouldn't see bullet holes in them.
If a girl is shooting rockets then they should be doing significant damage.
If a cyborg ninja cuts you with a sword that requires charging up then it should kill in one hit.
I don't think you know what cliche means.
>>336588889
so one of you retards think they are too distant from what they look like the other one says theyre one dimensional stereotypes
jelly pathetic haters get your shit together
Any tips for playing pic related?
P H A R A H
>>336589041
you're a fucking shitter m8
the rocket girl does a lot of damage if you learn to play properly
btw
>complaining about realism in video games
enjoy your euro truck simulator and cowadoody kiddo and fuck off from this thread
>>336588943
>But I'm helping!!
>This comes from a Mei that blocks off her team with shitty ice walls, does nothing but get in the way, and just dies constantly
>>336587525
I have done that twice where I wait near where they come out of and both times I killed all of their team, His turret is way to OP.
>>336588875
Nope, people who actually like the game are praising it while babies are crying about it. How can the game be for babies if they're enjoying it?
Flawed logic right there.
>>336589141
spam turrets, create teleport as soon as possible, give shield, run around and try to chip away from peoples hp
Symmetra is garbage though desu dont even bother
>>336589341
Because only babies play the game, and only babies will cry about the game. Know why? Because it's a game for babies, it makes perfect sense.
>>336589076
Of course they are one-dimensional stereotypes you fucking retard. This has nothing to do with the fact that they do not anyhow indicate what their role is. Get it?
BASTION NERF WHEN BLIZZ
>>336589487
and your crying about the babies that play the game and are crying about the game.
The problem isn't the game is bad, the problem is the game has nothing over TF2, a game that has more or less cornered the market on "cartoony party shooter where you collect hats."
With the exception of Roadhog, every single character feels like a character (or alternate weapon) in Team Fortress 2, never mind everything being on some kind of asinine cooldown system clearly made to help distract you from how boring the core gameplay really is. 99% of the game is mowing down chokepoints or running around getting solo kills, with objectives only serving to crowd all the sheep together. This is all stuff you can already do in TF2, with more possible alternatives than "run forward and hope you shoot enough guys before your healer dies or you do."
Everything in the game just feels inferior to its obvious inspiration, much like when people compare Heroes of the Storm and Dota. The REAL issue is that TF2 doesn't strive to be complex like Dota does, giving people no reason to spend $40 on something less rewarding and less interesting.
>>336589662
No, I am simply making observations about babies.
>>336589745
>tf 2
> 1 ability
>overwatch
>5 abilities
>nothing over tf2
You are literally retarded
>>336589487
No it doesn't, clean the shit from your fingers and learn to type something that isn't an oxymoron. It's either they enjoy it and they're not babies or someone is bitching and acts like a baby. stop mixing it together.
>>336589487
Why would they cry about the game if they're enjoying it so much?
You're some kind of special idiot, Anon.
>>336589513
fucking explain it to me you bitch, because no it makes no sense
so you're crying that the ninja is throwing stars but the monkey is jumping?
or that the ninja doesnt spam one hit kill combo while being the most agile mother fucker in the game?
what is game design amirite?
pathetic hater kid get anus cancer m8
>>336589842
>I post retarded shit
Classes in Overwatch have 4 abilities. Classes in TF2 have zero because it's a shooter, not a shoba.
>>336589842
Can you please write full sentences. What abilities in TF2? Nobody is going to understand you in your incoherent rambling.
But then again, Overshill is made for people like you. Short attention span, lack of forward thinking, short term gratification.
You'll drop the game soon enough and come back complain how there is nothing to do.
>>336589886
Stop projecting your scat fetish onto me, baby. Of course a baby like you can't see why this is a game for babies. Don't worry baby, maybe one day you'll play a game with more depth.
>>336589919
Because they have a scat fetish? Not hard to understand you baby.
>>336589938
Being agile doesn't mean much when every character has a hitbox the size of Taiwan.
>>336590052
That's some weak bait you got there.
Still, you can't hide how much of an idiot you are.
>>336590138
>the truth is bait
Not everyone has a scat fetish.
>>336590052
>That damage control
>>336590190
Where does the scat fetish even come from? You'e the one that brought it up.
Are you trying to project or something?
>>336590327
You like a shit game so you have a scat fetish. It's not hard to understand anon.
>>336585130
>You're bitching because you can't tell what each class does by just looking at them.
I agree that this is kinda stupid. You have 21 heroes and instead of just a simple animation of what they do when you're picking the character, Blizzard decided they should just stand and pose.
It's mostly a complete non-issue though since they're categorized by their role and the game provides you with a training range where you can test out every single character.
>>336582936
>expect a monkey to be slow
You have some misconceptions about how this reality operates.
This game is ridiculously easy. Hanzo is just Huntsman sniper with infinite ammo and better damage, and regular sniping with widow is easy peasy.
So with pretty shallow gameplay and only like 2 hot characters, what's the point.
>>336590052
>game with more depth
doesn't exist. I play games for entertainment not to be in awe like some pseudo intellectual hipster. Also, if anyone is acting like a baby it's you. you sound like a little kid who does the mockey type of tone to win an argument
It's fine if you have a fetish for babies, but please stop butchering the English language with inane oxymorons.
>>336589938
Okay, since you still not get it I will hold your hands now, sit down beside you and carefully explain it in detail so you can understand it.
brazilian guy = looks like your mom's dream of a fitness instructor. This is a stereotype.
When you first look at it you can tell its a stereotype but you will have no idea what his role is in the game based on his appearance.
Is it ok now Billy?
>>336582626
Anyone know how could I get some good screencaps of the characters up close? Currently the hero gallery only lets me spin the characters around.
>>336590387
Okay, whatever makes you sleep at night I guess.
Genuine question
Game on PC is 40$, on psnUSA 60$ and on psnEU 70€.
How is this allowed?
I like playing it just because I like jerking off to D.va but I've been enjoying myself. Pretty much have spent my entire time only playing as her and occasionally as mercy the entire time, I don't do very good though. I do feel like some character's are way too over powered like Bastion and that one guy who has the giant shield that just shuts down everything. Unsure if I'll actually buy it too the whole package sort of feels like some F2P korean fps or something it's weird. I wish they had a server browser and dedicated servers as well instead of having to wait 5 minutes to join a game, then 1 minute on the menu then 1 more minute walking around waiting for the round to start. I didn't mind it at first but after playing it for a bit it's starting to get really annoying. Also I never get any drops for Dva or even gold to buy shit for her so that's super frustrating
>>336582626
Because Blizzard
>people preordered this
LMAO
>>336590492
Sshh let him be. Maybe some day he'll go to an infested crocodile river and think they're slow.
>>336590648
blizzard has to pay licensing fees to put the games on consoles
they dont have to pay shit to put it on pc
>>336590648
No it's not.
It's 60 on PC as well with a bunch of cosmetic shit.
It's 40 for the barebones version which is just the game.
>>336590561
They do exist you dumb baby, a nearsighted simpleton like you just can't see that. I'm sorry you'll forever be an ignorant ambitionless baby, satisfied by pressing the Q button for epic kills.
After a game finishes after the loading screen it will kick me back to the main menu and say 'game found' but I never actually get put into the game. does anyone else have this problem? i can't fix it a blizzard is ignoring the issue
>>336582936
You're mad because the characters dont fall into generic archetypes that limit how they play? Did you want all the healers to be guys in white robes with red crosses and maybe a cleric hat on and healing guns. Or maybe all the tanks should be big guys with huge body armor and shields. God forbid theres some creativity in the designs.
>>336590696
>I am a total idiot and don't know how Blizzard works
Blizzard has dedicated teams for each of their games.
>>336590569
no you make zero fucking sense
if a character looks like a stereotype but acts in a completely different manner its not a stereotype
but do come on, rationalize that your whore mum doesnt buy the game
come up with all this nitpicky non sensical shit to make it okay in your non existent brain that you cant play the game because its too expensive or youre a fucking shitter who sucks even at OW
youre a fucking shitter though anyway but thats not the point m8
go play csgo, thats good for your primitive brain
>uuga booga me good guy with gun i shoot bad guy with gun :^)
hopefully thats not too difficult for you to comprehend
and now fuck off
>>336590931
You can be creative with the design without making designs that have zero relation to what they do
>>336590931
>overwatch
>creativity
Here's a (you)
>>336591003
I wonder how long it will be till wither Metzen or Activision fuck everything up. I'll give it a year.
>>336582936
Have you ever seen a gorilla in real live you fucking retard?
Nigger might not be able to jump 20 feet, maybe because real gorillas don't have fucking rocket packs strapped to their back, but he still is more agile and faster than you could ever hope to be nerd.
Won't even say anything about the rest because aside from your comment on Genji, who really is shit, it just shows that you are not only thick as brick but also bad at video games.
>>336582626
I hate the generic shitty heroes with zero effort put into them
this whole game is half assed but full priced
>>336591094
More like 6 months
>Bastion still not nerfed
Why does he get all his HP back when he ults plus an extra 150?
Why does his ult one shot kill every other hero?
Why does his sentry mode have no rev up time?
Why does his sentry mode have virtually unlimited range and accuracy with no damage fall off at those ranges?
Why can he heal in sentry mode?
Why can't he be headshot in sentry mode to make up for all of the other facts?
He makes games insufferable, and there is one in every single match.
>>336590931
the guy is a f2p tf2 shitter of course its monkey brain is buttblasted when a much better game thats completely out of its reach comes out
i feel kinda sorry for this dipshit
im not tb brutally h though just sayin
I for one have preordered multiple copies of this fine game and honestly every Blizzard product I've ever bought has been amazing!
Any other people here going to buy all the cosmetics? I know I am!
>People want a game with interesting characters to play
>A game with innovation
>Something new and different than other games
>People hate the game because it's too different from TF2
>People hate the game because the characters are too confusing
>People hate the game because they don't get it
>People hate the game because it's different and they die a lot
>Characters are stereotypes pandering to gamergate
>Characters are diverse pandering to SJWs
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
Z U P E R
>>336585284
>TF2 vanilla is perfect
>Pyro can't airblast
>Engie can't move buildings
I doubt you even played TF2 vanilla
>>336590881
But they don't, you imbecilic schlub. Just because you think your favorite game has "depth" doesn't make it so.
>expecting a gorilla to be slow
>winston who has a jetpack behind him
>winston who wears glasses which implies some intelligence
>gorillas which are often associated with apes and "monkey brained"
>the glasses acts as a dissonance between stereotypes of stupidity and intelligence
>surprised he drops a shield as a tank
>implying a long ranged weapon would suit a gorilla
What is wrong with his character. Looking at him his abilities fit him perfectly.
>>336591090
They follow some cliche stereotypes like the Japanese ninja and archer guys for instance but at least they have some diversity in terms of how you tank/healer/DPS. More than TF2 has. Though ill agree TF2 has a higher skill ceiling, I hate the direction its taken.
>>336591184
because he's one of the worst characters in the game and only exists to stomp shitters
It's good for a F2P game. Dead within 2 months
>>336591336
>they don't get it
>YOU JUST DON'T GET IT BRUH IT'S GOOD YOU JUST DON'T GET IT
>>336591336
>copying TF2 and mobas
>"""""""innovation"""""""
>"""""""different""""""
You too
>>336591301
>everyone who likes a popular new AAA games is a paid advertiser
/pol/ is one hell of a drug
>>336591184
Because he is easily countered when you have a competent team. I notice when I play with friends we easily take him out but when I play by myself he's strong.
>>336583841
Better than overwatch, why bither asking?
>>336591501
>F2P game
That's just the problem
Nobody is gonna wanna pay 40 dollars for a mediocre TF2 shtick. I can also bet Acti-Blizz will still nickel and dime everyone with cosmetics and other shit as well
Doctor Winston, I'm BAMF
>>336591447
>>336591447
If at a glace a design conveys the opposite of what the character can do, it's a bad design
>>336589745
>every single character feels like a character (or alternate weapon) in Team Fortress 2
You obviously have not played Overwatch or a lot of TF2.
Pretty much every Tank character is radically different from everything in TF2.
Lucio
D.Va
Genji
Mcree
Mei
Soldier 76
Winston
Zarya
Zenyatta
Are all totally different as well.
>99% of the game is mowing down chokepoints or running around getting solo kills, with objectives only serving to crowd all the sheep together.
Good luck trying to get solo kills against a team that has any idea on what they're doing, you'll get your ass handed to you. Also bitching about objective modes in a class based shooter? I'm really starting to think you haven't played any shooter in the genre for longer than an hour, or you're one of those idiots that want TDM in TF2.
>Everything in the game just feels inferior to its obvious inspiration
The game and artstyle look and feels incredible, with the exception of Zarya, it has an obectively better style than TF2 does now.
This is all coming from someone who was a huge TF2 fan. I'm not saying one is better than the other (I haven't played nearly enough Overwatch to confidently say if it is or not) but it certainly has done enough to set itself apart.
They're both great games and they both can coexist. I'm not sure why idiots like you think it can only be one.
>>336591046
>Look I used le no moni arugment xddd
Is this the best you can do to justify your inability to comprehend something?
This game is so utterly devoid of personality, intrigue or any genuine, human emotion I feel sick after about 30 minutes of playing it.
Something feels so wrong about this game, it reminds me of League of Legends. It's too syrupy sweet, as if it's rotting my brain just running on my computer.
Is this another unfortunate example of the shiny AAA nu-videogame (see: MOBA) that exists solely to pry open the gentrified middle class 12 year old's parents' wallets with cosmetics and waifu bait?
Pre-order canceled.
>>336589141
Spam shields, drop all 6 turrets in smart, slightly spaced out locations, hide teleport well.
DO NOT PLAY HER AS A SUPPORT.
Your team still needs a real support. Healing, specifically.
>>336589351
She's only garbage if you don't run a support.
>>336591336
>/v/ is one person
>>336591657
>/pol/ is responsible for the marketer meme
>>336591717
>damage control
proud of ya kiddo, get bent you're done
cry yourself to sleep now
>>336591759
>I was talking about 1 post
>>336591734
No, you're just autistic and want to hate the game like everyone else. Thank /v/ for the influence.
>>336591851
>the damage control meme
>>336591094
Didn't Metzen do all the writing in the game anyway? Pretty sure he was the one who crapped out most of the characters and the settin.
Also I'm not sure if it's exactly the same guy in English but in German the same guy who voices Thrall also voices posterape Winston.
>>336591094
As much as I'd love to defend this game I know sooner or later it will happen.
I'll sure as fuck will enjoy it since day 1 like I did with TF2.
And then eventually see it rot and leave it.
>>336591734
There's also the feminist agenda, which makes the game even more disgusting
>>336591698
Thats subjective. I actually saw him and knew he would be a mobile tank that used some kind of tech in his arsenal to defend with. You will just deny this though, same as I can do for you. Plus your preconceived notions about how fast/slow gorillas move in real life were false in the first place, thus kind of losing credibility on your part.
>>336591669
The issue is you rarely get a competent team. The other issue is when Bastion has a competent team and Reinhart/Mercy are making it hard to do anything to him without dying. My only wish is he wasn't as accurate in sentry mode at long distances.
>No spy class on Overwatch
Just that fact alone makes the game better than TF2.
Overwatch is the super smash brothers of class based FPS
tf2 is the SF 2 turbo of class based FPS
>>336591884
>calling reality a meme
you hateful shitters are all the more pathetic every day
After playing the game around 60 hours in the closed beta, I can say without a doubt the potential for team work and skill cap surpasses its predecessor TF2 by miles. Haters in this thread are no doubt solo queue friendless casuals, who clearly havent been watching the games (architechted) competitive scene on twitch. The bait in this thread is cringey, and clearly same posters by some goon working at Hirez studios trying to subterverge Overwatch in favor of future threads talking about about how Paladins is the game to kill CSGO.
itt: tons of bait butthurt players who clearly havent done any orginized group gameplay. All the autists who complain about not understanding class mechanics are not even trying.
>>336591882
>>336591926
>feminist agenda
>when diva is stacked on the chest and the sniper has a noticeable ass
>>336592023Smash Brothers isn't a real fighting game
>>336591998
First character they add is gonna have a stealth and backstab mechanic. Please prepare yourselves accordingly. I'd laugh if their ult made a ton of clones so the enemy doesnt know who to focus too.
>>336592023
Agreed. Smash Bros is more fun than SF.
>>336592086
What the fuck are you even trying to say?
its not a bad game but the you guys are really over hyping it.
it's just not worth the 60$ price tag its given imo.
you guys are really trying to shill this.
>>336592175
We already have Genji for fucks sake.
>>336592079
>muh comp scene
it's a casual as fuck fps, and a shitty one as well
>>336592241
That he's a meme spamming asshole who wants replies.
>Sniper one shots 50% of the cast
>Only counter is another sniper
I just want to heal people holy shit
Its like battlefield allover again
>>336592294
It's 40 dollars actually, not that I'm going to buy the game. I got bored of it after playing it for a week in the closed beta a few months back.
>>336591926
>feminist agenda
Have you seen the female desgins?
>>336591090
Those character designs are pretty creative and remind me of that project /v/ had going on, you know, the adventure tales thing with nameless rank soldier and dick ass thief.
OW characters have a certain Disney/Cartoony flavour going on that fits the game perfectly.
>>336592368
>casual as fuck fps, and a shitty one as well
>plays overwatch
The ironing
>>336592402
>who is winston, pharrah, dva, Genji, roadhog
All the sniper classes I've run into are garbage. It's fun running into their face with winston.
>>336592402
Reaper
Winston
Genji
If your team can't deal with snipers then you deserve to lose
>>336592402
blame the godawful map design. Every map is a sniper corridor.
>play as Mei with my big forcefield guy friend to get a teamwipe right on top of the objective
>play of the game goes to a shitter spamming his stuff
Goddamn
Hope this helps other Genji mains out there
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4hzenn/how_to_not_die_immediately_after_leaving_spawn_a/
>>336591336
We don't hate it because it is DIFFERENT from tf2
We hate it because it is WORSE than tf2
>>336589229
Mei is fucking great, cutting off the enemy team or just their LOS is amazing, plus she has a great weapon and an out of jail skill
The only bad thing is that she's slow as fuck
Hardly any skill based moves/movment
Everything in this game is practically point and shoot. Press a button to do something cool.
>20hz tickrate
>20hz tickrate
>20hz tickrate
>20hz tickrate
console fps of the year.
>>336591998
>better
I'm sure you meant to say "worse"
>>336592626
Speak for yourself, faglord.
I think OW is miles better than TF2.
I'll admit the only thing I'll miss is rocket jumping but that's about it.
Don't drag everyone else into the hivemind please.
>>336592079
Good for you, most people don't scrounge together a team just to play a fucking game for fun. TF2 stands ahead in that regard because you can just join a game by yourself or with a friend and make a difference. Matchmaking has shown a so far that a game can be made that lets entirely solo queued people have a strategic experience.
Who are you enjoying the most?
My faves are probably Mei, Lucio, Reinhardt, McCree, and Reaper.
Game is fun as fuck TBQH.
>>336592751
Why are you posting faggots? Are you hiding something from me?
>>336592826
shit taste
tf2 is strictly better from a gameplay perspective
>>336591926
I literally needed to bust a nut after playing two rounds, following Tracer
>>336592807
You're a couple months too late, retard. 20 tick was confirmed to be a mistake made by a redditor who was bad at math, the tickrate has been confirmed to be at around 64.
>>336592826
I like both but tf2 is superior mechanically. The reason why OW can't have anything other than CP defense and payload is because the gameplay is too shitty to support any other mode.
>>336582936
Autism overload
>I hate this game therefore you must too
>Stop liking what I don't like!
>It's popular therefore it's bad
>I can't handle anything new
>jumps into the hate bandwagon to fit in
>can't enjoy anything unless some faggot on /v/ approves it
>>336592826
/v/ has changed
>>336592923
>tf2 is strictly better from a gameplay perspective
Nah, they're about on par and different enough to give each other some leeway.
Why do people think Bastion is OP? He goes down really fast even in sentry mode, and Reaper's *teleports behind you* is a pretty solid counter.
>>336593145
didnt say any of those things
are you retarded
Alright you got me.
What server should I pick for Aus?
>Gooks, Slavs or Ameriblobs.
Guess i'll take the 200ms latency on Ameriblob servers.
>>336592923
Not in the case of the medic though.
Mercy plays/handles/works much better in OW than on TF2
OW Demo has better traps AND are actually for defense purposes. Unlike TF2 demonerds that use stickies when attacking.
I could go on.
>team sucks
>we have a widowmaker
what a fucking surprise
>>336592864
Pharah and Torb are my favorites at the moment, they feel really strong.
>>336588373
Pick McCree and get up and flash bang her then pop her in the noggin. Git gud
>>336583841
What the fuck does hots have to do with anything? Is it just because it's made by blizzard?
>>336593262
Junkrat is hot garbage compared to the demoman
Sticky bombs >>>>>>>>> shit trap
>>336593264
>enemy team has a widowmaker
>their widowmaker is a nightmare to play against
>>336592419
if they ake it 20$ ill buy it.
>>336593242
Nope, you realize he can flip 360 degrees now, right? coming up behind him doesn't work.
>>336593079
source?
because it has been measured the client is actually only sending 20 packets per second.
Eh. It's pretty fun. I do agree that defenders are a little too strong (Bastion in minigun mode will kill you in less than a second), but on the whole I've had some good moments. I think I'll keep playing.
>>336593414
that was proven false a long time ago
>>336593358
>enter any open area
>oneshot in 0.1 sec
>spectating our widowmaker
>she's on high ground behind two enemies scoping them
>doesn't shoot
>JUST FUCKING SHOOT
>misses
>we lose
>>336593294
>Torb
How? He's bat none my least favorite character. What do I do to enjoy him?
>>336593264
AHHHHHH I HATE THIS.
ALL. FUCKING. TIME.
>"Let's go to the payload!"
>"Nah, will stick with my waifu shooting and often missing from a distance"
>>336593169
I have a special grudge against TF2 for what it has become.
Vanilla TF2 is still awesome in my books but sadly you can't play it without setting up servers and shit.
>>336592827
Same in OW, you can just switch to whatever counters the biggest threat and make a difference and that has actually turned many matches that were clusterfucks otherwise.
If the enemy team has a solid comp and actually guards their turrets/Bastion/Snipers/Tanks so I can't do it alone while our team is a bunch of unorganized retards with zero awareness, they deserve to win honestly.
>>336592310
genji has no stealth mechanics at all and barely any melee ones
he's just a fast ranged guy
>>336593262
Mercy is a worse medic because no overhealing
Junkrat is a better defensive demo but has garbage mobility compared to demoman
It's pretty fun, I suppose, but I'm kinda bored of it after a couple of hours. Might be good for a game or two every week, but nothing more. Also the competitive for it will be a joke.
And why are the maps so shitty? Nice visuals, but the layout is just dull as fuck.
>>336592402
Stop playing Zenyatta.
He's in desperate need of a buff ever since they added line of sight requirement.
Gets one shot by sniper easy.
which character is the best to troll with?
I make griefing videos on YT
>>336593498
build gank sentries that shoot across the map and then shoot at people while they tunnel your 300 HP sentry.
>>336589141
Spam turrets neatly spaced in frequently travelled places to avoid AoE. Hide the Telewarper. Use Max charged Ball of Death to meme on barriers Torbs and Bastions. Use Auto-Lock Laser that does more damage than Zarya's against people who are close to you and cross-cancel their asses like WoW PvP because LMAO WHO NEEDS TO AIM
>>336592807
>PCuck laughing about anything
So you gonna be enjoying Persona 5 right? oh wait that's right.
>>336593080
There's going to be content post-launch so maybe we can see modes but who knows. I am not keeping my hopes that high.
>>336593729
>he's actually going to play overwatch on consoles
>>336582936
Theres no way youd know dva is korean by looking at her. Nice try. Mercy is superior healer. Pharrah is splash damage.
Not shilling but youre seriously an idiot. This is why the beta wasnt given to every tom, dick, and jane. Bitching about a game theyve only played for 1 day.
>>336593414
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/49jabt/overwatch_servers_are_60_tick/
>>336593690
Mei
Ice wall
>>336593357
Junkrat's trap does way more damage than couple stickies and it also doesn't have an arm time, it can be blown up as soon as he throws it, and he doesn't take damage from it. His GL is also way better because it can fire much further with less of an arc and hold more ammo. The only way Junkrat is significantly inferior to the Demoman is in jumping, sticky jumps are way higher, further, faster, and more controllable than Junkrat's mine jumping.
>>336593690
Mei, keep Ice walling your own team.
>>336593483
dude, battlefield and and cod have beend running on 10 to 30hz tickrate for years now.
There are no reason for Overwatch to run at more than that.
Just.let.it.go.
>>336593594
>No overhealing
Why do you need that when you can revive the entire team?
>>336593929
>Junkrat's trap does way more damage than couple stickies
Nigga, why you lying?
>>336593729
no one wants to discuss persona shit dude. No one cares about your weaboo walking simulator.
You can stop bringing it up now.
>>336593929
Junkrats trap cooldown is insanely long compared to how easy it it to spam stickies
you can also deny a lot more area with sticky bombs than junkrat could ever hope to do
>>336593867
>"the server is sending these updates 20.9 times per second, or close to 20Hz."
you just rekted yourself.
>>336594081
junkrat is a corridor spammer and not much else. he can't deny an area like reinhardt or bastion can.
>>336587936
>the people are stupid
the irony
>>336585716
>racist
Commit suicide, nigger.
>>336594217
demoman does area denial as well as corridor spam
junkrat is shit compared to demoman
>>336594042
Its ok you can talk about your feelings here PCuck.
>>336594271
What are you talking about retard? I was just presenting facts.
>>336594198
>Not reading the whole thing
Time to stop.
