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What's the point of turn-based video games when they work
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What's the point of turn-based video games when they work exactly like their non-digital counterparts? The benefit of using computers is that everything can be real-time, but chess gains nothing by not being on a board.
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>Do you
>A: get sent to prison for murdering someone
>B: get sent to prison for murdering 5 people
>C: not get sent to prison at all because you didn't touch anything
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>>336499623
If you live in Europe, c is not an option
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being digital allows for more complicated turn systems that people wouldn't necessarily want to go about calculating by hand, more complicated turn orders decided by something like a speed stat etc. It also allows for more complicated things than a human gamekeeper would necessarily be able to keep track of in a timely fashion.
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>>336499427

MULTI
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>>336499623
You wouldn't go to prison for switching the tracks if you thought it would save more people
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>>336499427
Quicker set up times for complex games
Less storage space required
Less room for human error or blatant cheating
Online means you can play with people not in the same room (I mean you can with chess too as long as you understand all the QC4+ stuff, but still)
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>>336499427
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>>336499857

TRACK
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>>336499810
yeah what this guy said
also seems like fog of war type stuff would be easier to do on a computer
although I do wonder now how they handled that in those old timey war simulators
did they use two boards?
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what if I take option D and throw myself onto the tracks to derail the cart?
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I would make no choice, for I am Zen.
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>>336499974
DRIFTING
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>>336499974

DRIFTING
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>>336499427

heres a real conundrum
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>>336499895
>You wouldn't get sent to prison for murder
wew lady you're a dumb dumb
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>>336500136
>what is the jury system
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>>336499623
It all depends on where the trolley was originally heading, and making sure it takes the correct path to get there.
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>>336500114
I'd pull it 3dh
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>>336500175
>what is the law
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>>336500437
5 euros
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>>336500437
>A game and dlc costs $110
>The game costs $100
>How much is the DLC

oh shit I wonder.
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>>336500437

5 horse armors
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>better graphics
>no physical storage space required
>I don't have to clean the random garbage from my table to set up a board
>I don't have to get up at all
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>>336500437
110$
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>>336500540
>he mocked the problem and got it wrong
shouldn't you be studying for final exams?
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>>336500437
You dont even need math to do this.

A dipshit can start at $100, then do
y = $100 + ($ 100 - $100)
Then keep adding 1 to the first 2 $100s until he reaches an answer where y is $110
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>>336499748
the hell?
yes it is
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>>336500681
Can't tell if you're baiting, too.
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>>336499925
kek
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>>336499427
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>>336500405
>Police arrest you for fleeing white space after "killing" an innocent man
>If they continue to arrest you, you will eventually end up in court for homocide/manslaughter, a pretty serious offence. Your trial wont be over in 5 minuites
>you have 5 witnesses who will most likely vouch for you
>you have an entire jury who would have to be swayed that you did the wrong thing and are guilty
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>>336499846
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>>336500136
You're retarded and don't know anything about the law.
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>>336500668
>weapon has 1/3 chance to crit

>first option shows a weapon with 80% crit chance
>second option shows a weapon with 66% crit chance
>third shows a weapon with ~85% crit chance

it's literally none of them.
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Seriously what the fuck?
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>>336500668
first one
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>>336499427
Most people aren't going to take the time to create and play an extended tabletop strategy RPG campaign like you'd expect to find in any video game equivalent.
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>>336500907
>>336500828
>murder isn't illegal
Holy fuck this board.
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>>336501020
nice meme
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>>336499427
The answer is yes, surprisingly. The odds favor switching.
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>>336500668

1 = 1/3*2/3*1/3*1/3*1/3 = 2/243

2 = 2/3*1/3*2/3*1/3*1/3*1/3 = 4/729

3 = 2/3*1/3*1/3*1/3*1/3*1/3 = 2/729

1 is most likely
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>>336501020
Context is not irrelevant.
Murder yourself.
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>>336501254
5:1
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>>336501254
>you have a 20% crit chance
>What's your crit chance

20%
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>>336501254
67.232%
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>>336501346
nice reading comprehension
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>>336501254
The inverse of the odds of scoring no critical hits at all, 1-(0.2^5).
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>>336500540
The answer is 5, dumb-dumb.

5 + 105 = 110
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>>336501254
Oh fuck you it's too complicated to do calculate that only in my head just to post it on an anonymous imageboard.
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>>336501346
Reading it wrong

What are the chances you'll do a crit AT LEAST once

There's a 20% chance of doing it once, now add the chances you'd do it twice, thrice, quice and vice
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>>336501478
It'd be 1 - (4/5)^5 and thus 67.232%. .2 is the chance of scoring a critical hit, not failing to score one.
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>>336500921

>"Is most likely to have occurred."

Anon, if I have 99% to miss, it is possible to hit something five times in a row.
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>>336501478
Oh wait that's 1-(0.8^5), my bad.
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>>336499427
turn based makes sense.

ATB does not.
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>>336501556
Reading it wrong

>What are the chances you'll do a crit AT LEAST once

What are the chances you'll do a crit AT LEAST once PER ATTACK

20%
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>>336501346
per combo you illiterate motherfucker
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>>336501576
if you attack 5 times and you hit 5 times, your accuracy is 100%
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>>336500921
>sample case of 5 to 6 events
>it's going to be 1/3 because I don't know how probability works

Each hit is a single event and 5 to 6 hits isn't nearly enough to guarantee exactly one third will be crits.

If you flip a coin 5 times and it gives 4 tails and one heads it doesn't mean that that particular coin will have a 80% of giving tails on every coin flip.
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>>336501760
Sample accuracy, not population accuracy. l2stats
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>>336501687
Nigga take my bait son. Quice and vice probably arent words
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>>336501760
>If I flip a coin 5 times and get heads 5 times, the coin has a 100% chance of landing heads.
wew lad. That explains all those gamblers bringing dice that always roll 11 to casinos.
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>>336501254
100% because I run MNK/THF.
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>>336501687
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>>336500668
1.

2 has 1 inside its set, so any instance of 2 includes an instance of 1. 3 has more crits to hits than 1, so less likely
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>>336501254
fuckton
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This is an difficult problem made simple by basic math.

Pull the lever, then pull another lever again. That way, the trolley will be confused on why you broke the rules. Thanks for the extra 33% chance, by the way.
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>>336499427
>The benefit of using computers is that everything can be real-time, but chess gains nothing by not being on a board.
Sure it does. AI enemies and enemies in different locations.
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>>336499427
what does a fake lever do? someone still dies but what if the 5 people are niggers and i want the fake lever?
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>>336501879
>Vice
>Not a word
Oh I'm taking your bait you illiterate fucker.
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>>336499427
The problem statement does not properly explain the whole scenario. It didn't even begin to cover the people on the tracks.
Plus where are the video games?
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>>336499427
Always stick with your first choice when it comes to problems like this
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>>336500175
You won't go to prison for murder but you will be sued into another dimension from a civil court.
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>>336502454
A
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>>336502313
I'd counter-sue all parties for psychological damage.
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>>336502313
Would that be the government suing you or the victim's side?
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>>336502694
victims family and multiple victims family if you killed the 5
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>>336502639
Hey you didn't have to pull the lever. Not like the guy has a gun on you and said pull one.
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>>336499846
loss
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>>336502454
B. Portals ignore conservation of energy because placing them at different elevations means you can get free potential energy. (Old one over another trick lets you have infinite energy)
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>>336503005
Portals do however retain kinetic energy, which is what lets you harvest potential energy in the first place.
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>>336502773
Pretty good
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>>336502758
Could you not argue that you weren't charged with anything an therefor can't be blamed for it?
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>>336502454
A FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>336502454
We have to solve the problem in the portal engine. The test is moot to solve with conventional kinematics or kinetics because portals break the law of conservation of energy and momentum.
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>>336503108
Things go out as fast as they go in. So the slamming portal makes trolley go in fast. And go out just as fast. Thus B.
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>>336503353
>>336503108
Allow me to say that kinetic energy is based on velocity and mass, of which the first is not nessicarily conserved. Velocity is dependant of the directional vector as well as speed, and the direction traveling in a portal does not neccisarily have the same exit direction.
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>>336503353
>Things go out as fast as they go in.
No, things to out as fast as they are when going in.

Otherwise the cube would be ripped apart between its upper half going out fast and its lower half still standing on the platform when the portal is halfway over it.
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You should be able to solve this.
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>>336503501
Allow me to say that using big words doesn't make you smarter.

>Allow me to say that kinetic energy is based on velocity and mass, of which the first is not nessicarily conserved.
Yes, it is. If something were to leave faster than it goes in, it would rip apart.
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>>336503501
Portals conserve the speed something goes in. Just the scalar quantity of speed, and that speed is the speed something entered it.

A would break the object
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You ask for a hamburger, I give you a hamburger. You raise it to your lips and take a bite. Your eye twitches involuntarily. Across the street a father of three falls down the stairs. You swallow and look down at the hamburger in your hands. I give you a hamburger. You swallow and look down at the hamburger in your hands. You cannot swallow. There are children at the top of the stairs. A pickle shifts uneasily under the bun. I give you a hamburger. You look at my face, and I am pleading with you. The children are crying now. You raise the hamburger to your lips, tears stream down your face as you take a bite. I give you a hamburger. You are on your knees. You plead with me to go across the street. I hear only children's laughter. I give you a hamburger. You are screaming as you fall down the stairs. I am your child. You cannot see anything. You take a bite of the hamburger. The concrete rushes up to meet you. You awake with a start in your own bed. Your eye twitches involuntarily. I give you a hamburger. As you kill me, I do not make a sound. I give you a hamburger.
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>>336499427
best meme to come out of /lit/
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>>336503630
>>336503625
You guys aren't listening. Velocity is not the same as speed. Velocity is based on speed AND direction. Do portals enter and exit in the same direcrion?
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>>336503520
>Otherwise the cube would be ripped apart between its upper half going out fast and its lower half still standing on the platform when the portal is halfway over it.
Bruh, that would make entering a moving portal impossible, because you'd have chunk of you cease to exist.

Portals are a zero length tube, there are no "walls" to the inside.

It would be ripped apart if it didn't fly out as a middle portion disappears
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>>336503762
No, you aren't listening. The direction doesn't matter. If one half of something tries to move at a different speed than the other half, no matter in which direction, it'll rip apart. You cannot have different parts of the same object move at different speeds.
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>>336503762
>Velocity is based on speed AND direction
fuck are you trying to say, that speed has no direction?
OH HEY ANON LOOK AT THIS CAR GOING AT 100MPH SPEED OF STANDING STILL
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>>336500035
This is probably about the 10th time I've saved this image already
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>>336503873
>Bruh, that would make entering a moving portal impossible, because you'd have chunk of you cease to exist.
No, you don't get it.
In the case of it flying out, instead of falling out, the "out" half is moving at flying speed, while the other half is not moving. This isn't the same as using a portal normally, where both halfs of the object move at one constant speed.

A has the cube leave the portal fast, but its other half is still stuck being slow. This would rip the cube apart.
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>>336503143
Well you could try but you were never forced to pull a lever so by doing so you take full responsibility for your decision.
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>>336503954
Speed is a scalar quantity you retard.
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>>336499427
You're right about chess, but wrong about TBS games. They make up for it by adding complexity that would be impossible or annoying to maintain via a rulebook.
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>>336504045
Then you could sue the railway for allowing you to come across that scenario, and allowing someone to tie people onto the tracks
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>>336504193
He's also wrong about chess, because it allows comfortable long-distance games, as well as AI players.
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>>336503954
a car going 100 mph to the west has the same speed as a car going 100 mph to the east, but they have different velocities.
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What if all 5 people were begging you to save the one man's life in exchange for all 5 of theirs? Would you still pull the lever?
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>>336504241
just run over every retard that tries to cross its path, they will make less mistakes than human drivers so actually crossing roads right wouldn't be a problem
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>>336504241

No. If there are a bunch of faggots in the road then them being run down would be their own fault.
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>>336503543
Do nothing.
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>>336504568
What if the one man tells you to ignore them and sacrifices himself?
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Either I'm getting baited or either of you haven't taken a single physics class before.
>>336503885
Yes, the direction does matter. The velocity changes if they are traveling in different directions. Say cube A is traveling to the left at 2m/s, and the corresponding exit portal is facing right. If the cube is halfway through the portal, what direction is it traveling in?
>>336503954
>speed has no direction?
Yes, that is what I'm saying. Speed is Isa scalar, and scalars alone lack direction. Now velocity on the other hand is a vector. Vectors are scalars WITH direction.
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>>336504695
What if the guy driving the train tells you not to switch it?
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>>336504241
Or how about just decelerate. Those self driving cars can go to not fairly quickly
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>>336504757
>The velocity changes if they are traveling in different directions.
Which... doesn't matter.
> Say cube A is traveling to the left at 2m/s, and the corresponding exit portal is facing right. If the cube is halfway through the portal, what direction is it traveling in?
Half of it is travelling left, the other half is travelling right.

This is not a problem. You do this all the time in the game. No one cares about this. Shut up, dumbass.
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>>336504219
You could probably go after the guy who set it up for psychological issues but you wouldn't get nearly as much as the families who are out for your wallet's blood. The law doesn't really care about lesser sacrifices it just impacts how hard you get fucked for making the choice.
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>>336504241
This is kinda like I robot
I never want to ride in a self driving car.
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>>336504839

D is the only one not in danger of being shot as the guns are positioned
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>>336503520
>>336503873
>>336504028
Wouldn't the flying half of the cube just pull the stationary part of the cube through the portal with it
It would take an incredible amount of force to actually rip a box in half if it were steel or something
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>>336504772
What if the 5 men tell you to ignore the train drivers opinion, for he allowed the trolley to reach a speed where it could not be stopped and failing to see people on the track?
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>>336504839
D
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>>336504839
D no doubt.

who the fuck is A aiming at?
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>>336504839
The fuck is A even aiming at? The viewer?
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>>336504839
The answer is God
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>>336504839

The best answer is faggot anime high schoolers being "badass" while adults are boring and do nothing special #544459.
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>>336499427
>What's the point of turn-based video games when they work exactly like their non-digital counterparts?

It's easier to control the actions of an entire party of combatants in turn based time.
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>>336504757
Not him, but I didn't know velocity had a direction, I just assumed it was a scientific term for speed.
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>>336504930
What if the train driver tells you 2 out of the 5 people are lying and 3 of them are telling the truth?
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What if all 6 people are hitler?
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>>336504950
>>336504954
The viewer has a gun pointed at D.
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>>336504839
E has no guns pointed at her, and 2 guns
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>>336504839
D, dat sneak attack bonus
>>336504917
>Wouldn't the flying half of the cube just pull the stationary part of the cube through the portal with it
If we presume that the relative speed of the portal to the cube increases the cube speed, and we presume that the exiting cube pulls the rest of the cube, you get further acceleration (the pulled part of the cube is now even faster compared to the portal) and hence a feedback loop that leads to the cube exiting at almost the speed of light.
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>>336504757
from the perspective of the box, the velocity hasn't changed.
It's only changed from an outside perspective.

The box continues to travel along its straight path in its perspective
but you are right in saying that it wouldn't make sense to measure its velocity from the outside
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>>336505030
Then I follow the 5 men's decision as they are all of the same opinion

How do I know the train driver is not lying?
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>>336505042
>>336505050
D's still in cover though, she's got the upper hand
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TROUBLE WITH THE TROLLEY EH?
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This reminds me of a puzzle.
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>>336505195
It says best position which has D unarmed. E has two guns and nobody aiming at her.
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>>336504241
If the car kills its own passenger, nobody would want one, so it wouldnt exist, so people would still drive cars, and more people would be run over because of human mistakes. Kill the pedestrian.
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>>336505275
>E has two guns
And hence misses with both of them, because people can't really aim with two guns.
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>>336504858
You said the kinetic energy doesn't change, I'm just stating that's not nessicarily the case. If you are just talking about the speed, then yes I agree that is the same.
This problem is moot anyway because we can't prove what doesn't subscribe to our laws of physics by using said laws of physics.
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Rushing is shit. AIs always rush.

Strategy is best played either turn-based or "slowly" like Paradox games.
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>>336502454
A
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>>336499846
Kek, Took me a second
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>>336505275
E is a female and therefore shit at anything related to guns because she is probably a liberal. The male is the only one who probably has training.
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>>336505025
It's like, basic kinematics.
It literally is high school physics.
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>>336505409
>This problem is moot anyway because we can't prove what doesn't subscribe to our laws of physics by using said laws of physics.
It does. The only change in physics is that we can cheat space, by creating a zero-distance hole between to spots with nonzero distance.

Otherwise, physics remain the same. And both physics and basic logic require an object to have one single speed. You cannot have part of an object being faster than the rest of the object.
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>>336504241
>People jump in front of cars to sue the driver
>Now they can jump in front of cars with little fear of being injured and then loot the wreckage
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>>336499427
always switch
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>>336505275
D is not unarmed, and E is in the open, guns don't shoot only once
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>>336502773
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>>336505406
>point blank
>missing
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>>336503328
oh shit waddup
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>>336501254
1 - (.8^5)

Fuck you
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>>336505538
Velocity literally translates to speed in my language on Google.
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>>336505025
Glad to hear you learned something!
>>336505136
While that is very interesting how the perspective change could cause it to maintain velocity, wouldn't that then break some rule of relativity? I don't remember the definition, but I think there is a rule that one perspective has to equal the opposite perspective or something like that.
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>>336505570
>The only change in physics is that we can cheat space, by creating a zero-distance hole between to spots with nonzero distance.
That violates conservation of energy. The fact that the two portals can face different directions also violates conservation of momentum, so you basically just took down all of physics.
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>>336505570
which is why when you throw rope off a bridge the entire thing goes all at once?
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>>336504839
B is a pro gamer and therefore has a far better reaction time than the girls. So I'd say he's got this.
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>>336505151

Well, there are 5 people on the track, so isn't the probability of lying higher on their side?
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>>336499748
kek
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>>336499427
>no sick loop-de-loop
i'll pass
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>>336501254
1 - (0.8 ^ 5) = 0.67232 = 67.232%

this is early high school math, cmon
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>>336505776
Of course, any body can be stretched to the maximum of its expansion first. Yes, you can unravel a cord.
The cube is pretty fucking solid.
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>>336505570
But by this you are ethen creating and destroying potential energy from nothing, which breaks one of the fundamental rules of physics.
Try making a free body diagram, you'll see how weird our physics acts on it. Specifically any instant the cube is in the portal.
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>>336499427
> I have fun counting hundreds of tokens and managing twenty counters, all while juggling with eighteen different colour coded dice.
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>>336505936
But steel can be bent, why couldnt the bonds between the molecules its made of not stretch?
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>>336505829
The probability of 5 men lying to sacrifice themselves is pretty low

The probability of one man lying for his own agenda is much higher
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Well?
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>>336506032
Why does it matter? A moving portal would not bend the object going through.
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>>336506032
Not even the rope in your example could bend like this.

The rope can have different speeds (until fully unrolled) in its ends because you have distance between the ends, and the rope is flexible between those distances.

The cube has no distance between the parts moving at different speeds. You don't have a flexible area that you can expand, it's literally zero.
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>>336505425
how new are you that that "took you a second"?
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>>336506130
In the scheme of the argument, I have no idea for I was not following it
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>>336506117
>clusterfuck of thought experiments
This is goddamn hilarious

What's your favorite thought experiment and why is it the China Brain?
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>>336505097
Not true, we could measure the amount of force acting on the front of the box at each time frame and just add them together to get the total force
it's just a basic integral to determining total force and it's far from infinite
the force would be equal to an equation of x where x is how much of the box is through the portal
>>336505743
boxes already break some laws of physics, but only laws that normally function from an outside perspective like the one you are talking about
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>>336501020
>thinks law only cares about the actus reus
>not the mens rea

ayy lmao
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>>336502454
A
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>>336504241
Anyone dumb enough to jaywalk deserves death.
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>>336504241
it should brake
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>>336500035
>not the nigger jew edit
fuck off
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>>336506443
Because I wrote about it today in my philosophy exam regarding conciousness
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>>336502991
classic
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>>336506446
>boxes already break some laws of physics
Y-you mean portals, right? Or was there something about boxes I didn't learn in my undergrad study?
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>>336506504
What makes you think that?
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>>336506668
>brake
>assuming the car is driving up to the people and not they are walking out towards it
>assuming the driver hasn't tampered with the seatbelt and might be thrown out the window from the decelleration
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>>336506446
>Not true, we could measure the amount of force acting on the front of the box at each time frame and just add them together to get the total force
That is to imply that you have sufficiently time frames. Even working with planck time (10^-44 seconds), and hence permitting time "frames" in the first place, you're in deep shit.

If the portal moves at speed X, the cube flies out at speed X at first. It hence pulls the other half of the cube at speed X. The cube and portal now have relative speed 2x to each other.

The next part of the cube hence exits at speed 2x, pulling with 2x as well. So you add speed x every time a planck time frame has passed.

Your exit speed is deep in relativity.
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>>336506443
Maxwell's demon.
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>>336506960
Isn't that disgarded as measuring a molecules speed and opening the hatch causes more entropy than you save?
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>>336506853
You've never lived from the thrilling perspective of a box anon

but yeah, I meant portal
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>>336506853
holy shit is that fucking bionicle? I haven't seen them in years, the black one you posted a reaction image of was my first one back in the day.
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>>336506114

What I meant was at least one of them lying. Sure, they're all of the same opinion, but imagination if at least one or more had reservations about killing another man to save their own lives. Against their own moral judgment they do this anyway because the group decided on it.
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Friendly reminder that there is a 40% chance that we are living in a simulation.
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>>336507278
It was explained using information theory. The idea is that the act of deleting information increments entropy, and there is no such thing as infinite information storage so deletion would necesarily have to happen.
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>>336507632
And don't forget the most important stat of all, 87% of all statistics are made on the spot, including this one.
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>>336507632
It has been reported that some victims of torture, during the act, would retreat into a fantasy world from which they could not wake up. In this catatonic state, the victim lived in a world just like their normal one, except they weren’t being tortured. The only way that they realized they needed to wake up was a note they found in their fantasy world. It would tell them about their condition, and tell them to wake up. Even then, it would often take months until they were ready to discard their fantasy world and please wake up.
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>>336507770
>source nothing

good one anon
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>>336506497
>mens rea means you get to choose some people over others
you aren't allowed to insert yourself into a crime dipstick
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>>336506898
From the perspective of the box on the other side, it is moving at speed X past a stationary portal
From the perspective of the portal the box is moving at speed X past the box
At no one's perspective is anything moving at 2X, that actually would break physics

From the other portal, the outside perspective is that the platform is pushing the box towards the portal
which is why the box doesn't move until the portal hits the platform and why nothing travels at 2X
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>>336508085
>From the perspective of the portal the box is moving at speed X past the box
yes, but the portal is also still moving down.

Given that the relative speed of the portal towards the box caused the exit speed to begin with, you have to continue working with that, and the relative speed of the portal to the box is now both speeds added up, seeing how they have opposing vectors.
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>>336500437
DLC is 5 Euros.

Game is 105 Euros and is 100 Euros more expensive than the DLC. Together they cost 110 Euros.
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>>336508248
>you have to continue working with that
[citation needed]
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>>336508047
No judge, or jury, is going to punish you if you sacrifice the life of one for the life of five.

You might be found guilty of manslaughter, but you won't get jail time.
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>>336508415
what if the victim was steve jobs and the jury was the normal population?
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>>336508085
>which is why the box doesn't move until the portal hits the platform
That would cause the box to be infused with a large amount of kinetic energy out of nowhere. That's not going to happen. The outside part would get some massive acceleration.

The part that has already passed the portal would, if it has to wait for the portal to finish moving before it flies off, be at rest. If it had to start flying at constant speed the moment the portal finishes moving, it would need an infinite rate of acceleration.
>>336508361
You can't just change your logic in mid-thought. Consistency is important.
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>>336508507
Again, jury nullification or maybe a hung jury.
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>>336508509
The box is moving as it goes through the portal, it has speed but it doesn't leave the platform until the portal touches the platform

Think of it as though the centripetal force of the platform is what is pushing the box, because from the outside perspective, that is what's happening
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>>336499427
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>>336508792
>>336508248
Meant to reply to both

Also, vector analysis here is sketchy since vectors can entirely change direction with no added force in zero time with portals
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>>336508792
>it has speed but it doesn't leave the platform
How the fuck does that work
>Think of it as though the centripetal force of the platform is what is pushing the box, because from the outside perspective, that is what's happening
Yeah, nah, it's not. Which part is moving is very important in terms of energy.

If the portal is moving, and the box won't leave the platform until the portal has finished passing the whole box, then there is a period of time where part of the box has already passed through the portal, and is now hovering outside of the exit portal, not moving.

The whole discussion is moot. It's a hole in reality. The platform with the moving portal doesn't exert any force on the box. There's no connection between them. They literally don't interact at all. You're putting a ring over the box, and the other end of the ring just happens to be elsewhere.
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>>336503167
Why is this being ignored?
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>>336508908
What is the benefit of me grabbing Dr. Pavel?
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>>336509261

Getting the bomb made
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>>336509179
Because that's what happens when you confuse a physics engine with a case that was never intended by the devs to happen, which is why portals on moving objects normally just disappear.
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>>336509342
You never place a portal on 0K molecules which means it is always on a moving platform
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>>336508415
the only reason we don't punish for that, despite it being illegal, is because it is beyond the scope of the justice system, and so rare that it's irrelevant. We as a society refuse to pass concrete judgement such that we punish. It doesn't make it not wrong.

learn to Dudley and Stephens
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>>336509326
Is he particularly good at making bombs, or easily replaceable?
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>>336509545

It's an atom bomb, right? Haven't seen the movie in a while but I can only assume that's what it was. I imagine not many people are able to make one of those. I suppose Bane could just swipe another, but that might take a long time.

On the other hand, crashing the plane means CIA is eliminated. And he's a particularly important man to kill.
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>>336509963
I don't know, I never watched it
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>>336500540

It took me a while to get it too. The problem is in the wording.

If we do it your way:
>DLC costs $10
>Game costs $100 more than $10
>Thus game costs $110,equalling $120 total.

if the DLC is 5 dollars, the game is $105, totalling $110.
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>>336510013

Well, short story is, Bane forced him to make some sort of bomb that could turn Gotham into ashes.
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>>336506446
>boxes already break some laws of physics
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>>336506446
>boxes already break some laws of physics
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>>336506446
>boxes already break some laws of physics

fukken wot mang
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>>336500437
>>336500513
>>336500540
>>336500542
>>336500661
>>336500719
>>336508254
The question is
>How much does the DLC cost.

You can't buy the DLC without the game so it's $110.

How are you this dumb?
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>>336506446
>boxes already break some laws of physics, but only laws that normally function from an outside perspective like the one you are talking about
Clarify please
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>>336511025
>Layton logic
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>>336499846
There's a better, more subtle loss than this.
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>>336506446
>boxes already break some laws of physics, but only laws that normally function from an outside perspective
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>>336511025
Pretty sure you can still buy DLC without the game, you just can't use it
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>>336507770
>>336507841
>His joke
>Your head m8

Read the last sentence again
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>>336502454

I find it pretty funny that people always cite "conservation of momentum" when they see any variation of this image, despite the fact that portals in the game do not conserve momentum in general. And the argument of "it's stationary before and should be stationary afterwards" ignores the fact that it necessarily moves.

How does a trolley emerge from a stationary portal without moving?

Fact: It is initially stationary.
Fact: It then moves, at least a little.

These things are true in both scenarios. The only difference is that, in B, it moves more. So let's please stop pretending that the cube's momentum is zero at all times.

Scenario A is that the cube is stationary, gets spat out of the blue portal at a high speed (i.e., the speed with which the orange portal swallows it up), and then abruptly stops.

Scenario B is that the cube is stationary, gets spat out of the blue portal at a high speed (i.e., the speed with which the orange portal swallows it up), and then does not abruptly stop.

I'm sure some people have some arguments in favor of why it should abruptly stop, and that's fine. But it does need to gain momentum at some point.
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>>336507770
>out of all the fantasy worlds i could have retreated to i chose the one where i'm a depressed autist
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>>336511254
I see nowhere in the question where that is said.

However, total cost is stated. So by the question's justified rules both the DLC and game have been purchased for $110.

Therefore the DLC is $110.
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>>336511473
>How does a trolley emerge from a stationary portal without moving?
How does a trolley emerge from an iron ring pulled over it without moving?

The same way.
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>>336500437

When they cost 110 Euros in total, is that a package deal where you get a break on the price?
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>>336508908
Nothing! I do nothing!
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>>336511059
Explain how this box stays closed without breaking the laws of physics
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>>336509179
Because that's an unofficial recreation for Garry's Mod that uses none of the original code for the portal gun used in Portal.

Also, normally in Portal portals on moving objects disappear so this would never happen with the original gun.
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>>336511702
oh my fuck
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>>336511784
>normally in Portal portals on moving objects disappear
What about that part in Portal 2 where you cut a cable by placing a portal on a laser beam and the other portal on a moving platform
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>>336511540

You're comparing the orange portal to a moving ring. But if you move a ring, both sides of the ring move. Here, we have the orange side moving and the blue side not moving. You've constructed your analogy specifically to disregard the whole point of the thought experiment, which is precisely that the portals are not stationary with respect to each other. This is what differentiates this scenario from ones found in the game.

More importantly, I was talking about the blue portal. That portal is stationary. Imagine that your eyes are fixed on the blue portal as this happens. The blue portal is stationary in your field of vision. If an object comes out of it, that object must be moving. In general, an object must be moving with respect to the portal from which it emerges. Isn't that true?

I know there are plenty of good arguments in favor of "A" but yours isn't one of them.
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>>336503954
Underaged
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>>336511881
Well, shit. Alright then, I guess that argument's getting thrown out.
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>>336502454
How the fuck did black mesa get the government support over aperture?
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>>336509429
It's a good fucking thing that portal is a fucking videogame where molecules don't fucking exist and not real life fagnard.
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