What happened, Nintenbros?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IceMIN7wzAk
>>336490592
>Repeating jokes from last Star Fox video.
I don't even own a WiiU but that was weak.
>>336490592
It's as honest as it gets, Nintendo only released SFZ because the Wii U library was barren as fuck and they wanted tgo dump all the work they had done for the unreleased Wii version.
>>336491067
The did the same thing Nintendo did.
>>336490592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ-e-8ldVN8
I don't know sonybros you tell me.both these games are pretty good but that wont stop people from shitting on them.
>>336492032
>but that wont stop people from shitting on them.
R&C 2016 is generally praised tho :^)
Nintendo is creatively bankrupt. They have abandoned what made them successful in favor of gimmicks and stubbornly refuse to return to their old ways, insisting that their new attempts should be worshiped.
Jokes on you Nintendo, kids these days just want to watch youtubers play games now. That's what you get for making your games so fucking unfun.
So many asshurt people in the comments
>>336490592
>"Honest trailer"
>Completley dishonest
Whats with people shitting over good new ideas lately?
>>336492410
All they have to do is
>take game that was a success
>give it a different story
>change minor parts of the gameplay
>update the graphics a bit
litteraly what EVERY OTHER FUCKING DEVELOPER DOES THESE DAYS
but what do they do now?
>Take game that was a success
>give it a different story
>compelty change gameplay
>dont realy improve anything
Seriously, fuck Miyamoto
>>336492032
>b-but Sony
Every. Single. Time
>>336492892
it seems like nintendo listens to idiots screaming REHASH at everything and come up with an even dumber solution.
>>336492146
that's because sony has been around long enough for people to feel nostalgic for it, pretty much what people complained about nintendo fans.
>>336492410
>>336492892
guys, you do realise that the game could be a literal 10/10 and it would still be made to look bad in the video. That's the point, it's satire.
So why are you guys actually making serious suggestions here
Why are you making an entire thread just to post some literally who's youtube video?
???
>>336493138
>that's because sony has been around long enough for people to feel nostalgic for it, pretty much what people complained about nintendo fans.
Or its because R&C is a cheap and good game.
>>336490592
>casuals can't grasp the controls
What a surprise.
>>336492747
>good ideas
>forced motion controls
Pick one
>>336493156
because Star Fox is getting the Paper Mario treatment; changing huge chunks of the gameplay
noone talks about the video on the OP even anymore
>>336490592
e-celebs told the millennials it's cool to hate it. So now it's hated.
>>336492032
Who said anything about Sony?
>>>>>>Smosh games
>Constantly shitposting Nintendo whenever they mention it
>>>Using it for an argument
Also get gud with the controls
And don't ever say the word Bros you fucking falseflagger
>>336492892
Nintendo does change minor parts of the gameplay though. Gyro controls/motion controls aren't a drastic change at all. Star Fox Zero plays just like every other Star Fox game except with added precision via the gyro controls.
You have to be fucking stupid if you honestly think Nintendo has made any drastic changes to any of their core IPs at all in recent years.
>>336492892
>Don't improve anything
The gyro controls makes precise aiming that works when your not a little bitch
Also
>Ignoring how God tier All Range Landmaster is
>>336493303
If you honestly think either Paper Mario or Star Fox have has drastic changes to their core gameplay you must also breathe through your mouth.
>>336493303
>because Star Fox is getting the Paper Mario treatment; changing huge chunks of the gameplay
But that's fucking wrong.
Star Fox Zero is closer to the original core gameplay than its last few titles
>>336493303
>Changing huge chunks of the gameplay
What the fuck are you talking about
It's still a fucking Star Fox game with the same gameplay and same design
Your just controlling your fucking aiming with gyro
Aren't these made for pure entertainment? No reason to get mad
>>336490592
StarFox was never good. It was alive because some people enjoyed it and memed it enough to make it famous and kinda necessary for everyone to like. But now that there are more options, you can see how a bad game is a bad game without the need of some shills shilling a bad game.
Also, mainly furries like the franchise now (and all firries need to fucking die)
>>336493681
Where do you think we are?
>>336492032
>it's another anally devastated Nintendrone deflects to Sony episode
>>336493681
But this one in particular hits home for the nintendrones
DO A BARRER RORR
In all seriousness, i would get this game, but i can't waste 60 bucks for a 3 hours game.
>all those comments from butthurt Nintencucks
WILL THEY EVER RECOVER?!
>>336493414
>>336493581
>>336493615
>>336493643
>>336493671
The amount of fanboyism, holy shit.
I could explain my case some more but you faggots will just negate evrything while spouting subjective shit, because Nintendo cant do wrong.
Its like im at a Bernie rally, see a black person steal something and then shout "Oh my god, this black dude is stealing something!" where everyone as a result gives me the "UGH!! PROBLEMATIC ASSHOLE!" look.Sorry but food anologies are shit
>>336494023
this just in, thinking that Nintendo can only fuck up is just as bad as thinking it can do no wrong.
>>336494023
I guess i'm not allowed to like things anymore, lest I'm considered a fanboy
In that case, go back to /a/ weeb. If you like anime you are automatically a weeb.
>>336493815
>>336493375
>Nintendrone
>stating that R&C is a pretty good game and also liking SF0 make me a drone for nintendo now?
the Honest trailer for R&C shits on it for being an "outdated" platformer and how fps are so much better.
>Forced Motion control trash
>even remotely good
Are Nintenfriends that deprived from games that they will class this irredeemable 3 hour IOS tier trash as "good"?
this thread has gotten way out of hand for no real reason
>>336494372
Skyward Sword has the best sword combat because of it. Feel free to deny this as I'm convinced you will
>>336494023
>I could explain my argument
>but I won't because I have none
Great, saves me the time to argue with anonymous degenerates like yourself.
>>336494281
But the complaints against R&C and Star Fox are completely different and valid in both cases.
R&C is a huge rehash with mediocre platforming sections meant to segment the real meat of the gameplay, the weapons, but it's fun.
Star Fox DOES control like complete garbage and is another cash grab at Nintenkiddies Nostalgia with its laughable price>content ratio (as always with Nintendo games).
Both games received perfectly valid criticism, you just tried deflecting to Sony because you likely suspected a Sonygger to be behind this thread. You may or may not be right but you're still a butthurt Nintenyearold at the end of the day trying to deflect.
>>336494521
And Skyward Sword is largely seen as the worst mainline Zelda because of it.
>>336494565
He did argue his points, you just said "nope, fuck you and the majority, you're wrong". Stay mad, your game is shit, well sell shit and scored shit on top of being short as shit.
>>336493749
>Star Fox was never good
>muh furry menace
No
Nintendo's current state confuses me. I don't want any of the console manufacturers to flail around and be shitty because I'm idort and like them all (but don't own an Xbone yet because not enough games). But at the same time, /v/ Nintendo fanboys are so obnoxious and militant that I love to see them kicked when down. Further Nintendo failure would be glorious to see them squirm, but I'd hate it in terms of my own gaming pleasure. Of course in the case of this thread, it was ruined by memeposters taking a post out of context. Could it be anti-Nintendo shitposters or pro-Nintendo false flaggers due to the OP? Both could, but who cares.
It would be much more interesting to keep discussing the mechanics of Star Fox Zero in relation to the rest of the series, and what did/didn't work.
>>336494372
>>336493276
Motion controls are fantastic for aiming. No one who actually knows what they're talking would pretend that the right analog stick is better.
Nintendo only has 3 great series under their belt, and one of them isn't even really theirs. And no, SF isn't one of those series.
SF and the furries can go eat a load of shit
>>336494896
>Motion controls are fantastic
t. Nintencuck
>>336493965
Why is he kissing the hat?
>>336494896
Mouse and Keyboard are fantastic for aiming. Controllers and motion controls are clunky and awkward. I fucking hated the gimmicky aiming controls in games when playing on the Wii. In particular, it's what turned me off of Metroid Prime 3 compared to 1 and 2.
Why is that this game in particular brings the worst out of people?
I thought it was a lot of fun, even moreso than 64 but I don't prefer it structure-wise. Is it just because it is such an easy target for shitposts? Or is it just 64 purists? I don't understand.
>>336495259
3 hour game
Gamecube tier visuals
Forced motion controls
Mediocre reviews
Literally everything that there could be to shitpost about in a game, happened to Star Fox Zero
>>336491725
>>336494896
>Motion controls are fantastic for aiming. No one who actually knows what they're talking would pretend that the right analog stick is better.
This is Star Fox. The only thing I need to aim is a d-pad. Each successive Star Fox game since the original has been worse than the previous.
>>336490592
Are the controls really the only problem the game has?
>>336490592
Seems like whoever wrote the script didn't git gud?
I dunno, I've been enjoying SFZ.
>>336495259
>64 purists
Jesus christ, are we really at the age where Starfox gets its own "muh genwunners/FFVII is overrated guise!"
>>336495915
No there are a few other problems
>branching paths feel less developed than the main planets, making them feel like sidequests
>Lacking in content, really only having slightly more content than 64 but not as much replayability
>All-range mode is way too prevalent, there aren't enough on rails gameplay to balance this out
>Every boss is in all-range
Those are the general complaints, but I still think it's the 2nd best StarFox game
>>336496149
>implying starfox 64 isnt overrated
>>336496149
It's always been like that, more common after Adventures, Assault, and Command.
So which re-imaging is better 64, 3D, or Zero?or is it neither and the original on the SNES trumps them all?
>>336495915
>they could have prevented this by not forcing motion controls
>>336494592
Another Nintendo shill outing himself using reverse-shitposting
>>336490592
Welp it's been real bros.
http://www.destructoid.com/star-fox-zero-sales-off-to-a-series-worst-in-japan-359113.phtml
http://archive.is/5qvMT
>>336497773
>Wii U userbase smaller than the userbase for just about any other Nintendo platform
>Doesn't have blue tittyfox to appeal to Japan's chronic waifuism
Why are people surprised that it didn't sell well there again?
>remaking the game 3 times and adding a zero to it
>>336498025
There's nothing else out on the console this season. It should have sold at least as well as Star Fox 64 3D, and the 3DS was a new console that was selling badly when 64 3D came out.
No-one really seems to care about Zero. To the casual observer it looks very bland and dated, because it harkens back to an era of 3D graphics that were notorious for their muddy and low-fidelity visuals. It failed to excite old fans or make new fans.
>>336492032
>bringing Playstation into this
While we're on the topic, did you know that R&C for PS4 is the fastest selling game in the series? Nintendo should take note, as it seems Sony figured out the right way to remake an old game on a new system.
>Using Eceleb satire account to make a point
How pathetic are you people
>Nintenbros
Fuck off
>>336501052
Insomniac =/= Sony.
>>336501409
Sony works with good people. They could have farmed it out to Platinum Games to make it in less than a year, but they did it the right way.
I just wish they hadn't gone for so much "different" bullshit. I'm not going to sit here and say "hey at least they are trying to innovate" when that 'innovation' is pretty much the sole reason this game is "okay" for me instead of great.
This was the closest thing to just a pure railshooting Star Fox we've had since 64 and they still managed to mess with that. Fuck off with the chicken walker. Fuck off with the gyrocopter. Hell if you want transformation, why not just make it so the Arwing and Landmaster were one thing? Hell you even made it so the Landmaster can fly anyway.
And the controls aren't even an issue, in fact, they're great for rail shooting. You know what isn't great? The camera. Fuck off with this two screen bullshit. It works on DS and 3DS for some games - it doesn't work for a fast paced action game. I don't want two perspectives in my Star Fox, I want one, and I want to focus on flight and shooting in that one screen.
Zero isn't a bad game but for fucks sake Nintendo, stop thinking you need to push stupid fucking shit like using two screens with every new release of an old franchise that isn't fucking Mario. Just make a good fucking rail shooter. That's all I want. I just want a sequel to Star Fox 64, with no bullshit. Why can't you do that?
>>336491374
Pretty much. Every game that's going to come out for the Wii U from now on will be stuff that's easily shit out with mostly existing assets like Mario Tennis was.
>>336501543
Not him but the point doesn't really stand, since Insomniac have made near enough every R+C game/
>honest game trailer pattern
>nintendo
>nintendo
>nintendo
>Game hyped of the month
>nintendo
>nintendo
>nintendo
>nintendo
I wonder how much money it would cost to convince them to do an honest trailer ofSengoku Rance
>>336502267
>And the controls aren't even an issue, in fact, they're great for rail shooting. You know what isn't great? The camera. Fuck off with this two screen bullshit. It works on DS and 3DS for some games - it doesn't work for a fast paced action game. I don't want two perspectives in my Star Fox, I want one, and I want to focus on flight and shooting in that one screen.
Find some friends then. SFZ is most fun doing co-op. Me and my friends have been having a blast.
>>336495915
>>336496373
Whilst the controls certainly aren't the only problems, immediately implementing Starfox 64 style controls with zero use of the second screen would actually make the game enjoyable to play.
That and it needs shit like radar. Come the fuck on who's idea was it to remove radar and implement a lock-on system that fucks with your sense of orientation?
>>336502267
You now what gets me?
Splatoon doesn't need to have a dedicated button for resyncing the reticle but this game does.
I almost believe what some leaker said about the game being delayed into 2016 was due to the developers having playtesters giving them a hard time about the controls.
I can almost guarantee that they decided against changing them due to Miyamoto wanting to continue his "innovation" stuff since many people complained about having the useless gamepad.
IMO, Miyamoto should've taken a few tips from Splatoon devs after delaying the game into 2016 on how to get shooting controls right.
Another slight complaint I might add is that it has less planets than the previous entries in the SF Universe, meaning overall less variety and not as fun due to being able to go back to different routes by choice.
I suppose they did the second part for the modern generation however who can't sit down for a good hour to have fun with a game.
>>336490592
>Smosh games
People actually watch this garbage?
>>336502508
Even so, the franchise is clearly in much better hands than Star Fox is. Star Fox is basically Nintendo's bastard child and they've always been hesitant to do anything with it unless it was to sell a new gimmick.
>>336494896
Keyword being "forced". Even Splatoon, which had great motion controls, had the courtesy to ensure that you can just use the right stick alone if you wanted to.
a list of valid complaints
>a dedicated reticle recentering button
>less planets than previous entries, meaning less path deviation
>no radar
>not as much replayablity due to not too many rewards for medal collecting
>no local or online vs multiplayer (a staple in SF64)
>no online leader boards like most SHMUPs have nowadays
>Every boss is all-range mode
>too many all-range mode sections in the levels outweigh the on-rails sections
>>336490592
>FIghting gigarilla
>Playing in third person when gigarilla he shooting at him
Holy shit this is painful to watch, change the camera angle
The whole video was good outside of the complaints of the gameplay, you can actually watch him play wrong as he reviews it.
>>336503686
It's definitely a double whammy problem.
One is technical, the second is conceptual.
The gyro controls in Splatoon are very well executed, but they feel off in Starfox Zero somehow.
The aiming is truly fucked though, as you have to rely on looking at a separate game screen for a reliable first person aim in a game designed around third person shooting.
It's such a backward ass concept it shouldn't have happened.
I fucking hate that they say you should use the GamePad for precision aiming. It goes beyond precision, you need to use it for basic fucking accuracy because operating from the TV screen along is tantamount to shooting from the hip.
>>336504105
>>no online leader boards like most SHMUPs have nowadays
Nope, instead, post your scores to Miiverse! :DDDD
Where's that list of "games that are going to save the Wii U"?
>>336504218
True.
I think the fact that you're always moving forward creates the problem whereas in Splatoon you have much more freedom of control.
IMO the gyro controls should've been relegated to an on-foot mode and disabled when in flight, but I can see why they wanted to simulate "fighter pilot controls".
>>336490592
>Star Fucks Given: ZERO
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So genuine spoilers for a different game here.
I find it fucking hilarious thatKirby Planet Robobot's final boss is a better Star Fox game than Star Fox Zero
>>336504557
It's amazing and kinda sad at the same time
>This fucking thread
That video is funny.
SFZ is a good game, just short on content like every good game in the series.
Controls are not bad, they have a steep learning curve, like KI:U, that's it.
Guard is awesome.
Blaming Miyamoto for everything is just an easy scapegoat for simple minded people (see: idiots).
Yes, Platinum did work on the game, they didn't simply worked on some details.
StarFox Adventures is a shit game, no excuses.
Krystal is a shit character and Krystalfags are the worst fandom in the world.
>>336501052
>it seems Sony figured out the right way to remake an old game on a new system.
By removing half the content of the original game and also half of the framerate?
>>336492032
no star fox zero is not good. I dropped it after 5 minutes
>>336504156
It seems that most people who try Star Fox Zero are "playing it wrong," which means Nintendo probably designed it wrong.
>>336495160
>Mouse and Keyboard are fantastic for aiming.
You're a retard. Any self-respecting PC gamer would play a flightsim with a joystick.
>>336491725
>>336494023
Anon your replies aren't argueing over what's wrong with the game
They are argueing your fucking comparison to Paper Mario
Fucking Read you degenerate
>>336490592
Hiring Platinum. They won't make that mistake twice, I'm sure.
>>336494023
Anon I agree the game is garbage
But your comparison to Paper Mario is retarded, which is what your replies are telling you
You are Literaly using a straw man right now
>>336496076
>The dude=Nintendo
>The cocksucker=You
I wouldn't even pirate SF0 for free if the console was hacked. Well it's hacked, and I'm not touching that game. Who on earth wants a poorly controlled, gyro-based 4 hour rail shooter that looks like last gens turd. Fuck that.
There are better looking and better controlled and longer Nintendo games to choose from. Everything about SF0 is a fucking franchise cash grab, the gameplay had no value and it looks like ass.
>>336494732
It wasn't. I'm sorry that your boyfriend's game isn't good and you find it hard to accept.
>all those butthurt fanboys in the comments section
>"THE GAME IS GREAT EVERYONE IS JUST PLAYING IT WRONG!"
>"IF YOU WERE DISAPPOINTED IT'S BECAUSE YOU GOT TOO HYPED UP!"
>>336505925
Console is hacked nigga
Nothing really
Just gyro controls and retelling Andross
Fix those in a sequel and your good
>>336504997
>>336506272
Just like every other satire video from this channel anon
Every fanbase is the same
>>336504997
According to Metacritic's critical average, Adventures is better. According to the user average, Zero is about the same quality as Adventures.
It's pretty obvious Nintendo doesn't give a fucking shit about video games anymore
Wii U doesn't even have anything coming for it for the rest of this year
>>336505669
I don't think you know what degenerate means. You should educate yourself first before using buzzwords. You are looking like quite the retard
>>336505837
>Star Fox 0
>forced tilt controlls, complelty changing your gaming style, creating something noone wanted
>paper mario
>removed everything that made it an RPG, creating something noone wanted
true its not exactly the same but its close enough. Miyamoto is currently so high on "INNOVATIVE GAEMPLAI" that he changes everything in the wrong way.
>>336506540
Looked into some of the other videos, and nothing that I found really matches this rage.
>>336506793
I mean sure. If your definition of lazy is 'EA and Ubisoft fucked us over at the last minute so we have to create content for two platforms almost single-handedly so we don't go under'
It's no surprise that they are pumping out more 3ds games than Wii U games, they are just easier to make. Also thank god for Atlus helping fill the 3ds library. They are doing what they can in the position they were put in, as well as the one they put themselves into. Any other company would have gone under trying to do what they've been doing.
>>336493156
you don't know what satire means.
>>336506647
Not a fan of Zero but both are completely different genres and can't be compared.
>You'll live enough to see the death of Nintendo
Feels good man.
>>336508698
The Star Fox Zero Defense Force is constantly saying "Advntures is shit" while praising Zero so they are being compared wether you "can" or "can't." It's an apples and oranges comparison, but people are arguing over which one is rotten.
>>336508785
>>336506647
Sounds about right since they're both shit.
>>336508993
>The Nx w-w-will be g-good, guys
>>336509116
>N-Nintendo is d-d-d-doomed guise
30 years
30 years people have been calling for the death of this company
>>336490592
>taking HT seriously
It's a prank bro
>>336508940
Adventure is alright, it's a good adventure game. Too bad that slapping Star Fox onto it gives it a bad reputation.
If you want a bad true Star Fox game, try Command
>>336496149
It happened when 64fags couldn't stop shitting on the other titles because they weren't 64 and kept begging for 64.
>>336508993
Man, it's like poetry that Nintendo fans are living in the past rather than looking towards the future.
>>336509257
When has Nintendo ever had their sales drop 60% in a fiscal year and then had Nintendo follow that up by saying "we have no decent games planned for another year, pls buy our new system then!"
>neo-/v/ unironically linking clickbait videos
what the fuck is happening
>>336509602
>he thinks OP isn't being paid by Smosh
>streamer i follow makes a video saying why star fox innovated shit controls but is still just Star Fox 64: 5 electric boogaloo
>it gets linked on reddit
>tons of fucking butthurt comments of HE OBVIOUSLY WANTS THE SERIES TO DIE MIYAMOTO IS A GOD HE KNOWS BEST
>turns out other people are even shitting on the game too
why cant fucking nintendrones just accept that bad things are bad, almost as bad as sonycucks
>>336509602
/v/ has been shit for a long time senpai. If only the mods would do their fucking jobs and stop console war bullshit and constant shitposting.
>>336510110
I think Nintendofags are worse by now
I mean when the game released you literally couldn't give your opinion on the game unless you owned it also they backpedaled hard saying how scores don't matter when they are the ones who circlejerk over them the most
>shilling your jew shit normalfag videos on /v/
No. Go the fuck back to Facebook you mouth-breathing piece of shit.
>>336510434
well it probably isnt a fair comparison to say who is better or worse. its more of a different breed
sonyfags will get 0 games, or get an exclusive ported and try to claim the high ground. however they dont have a central figure to rally around. sony as a first party dev isnt exactly creating huge games and only a few exclusives are first party. so sonyfags are effectively roaming bandits who go thread to thread and shitpost at nintendrones and pcucks
nintendoniggers will defend any game made by instantly spewing MUH MIYAMOTO KNOWS BEST HE INNOVATE. even and especially if he never even worked on a game. they are obnoxious in the way that criticizing the game is met with arguments of stagnation, rehash or lack of innovation. ironically, games miyamoto never even touches get innovated the most
>>336510434
to be fair, this also happend when Bloodborne happend and when Fallout 4 happend.
Fanboys will ALWAYS defend their company of choice with their chips-stained fat fingers.
A shame idorts are a vocal minority, or else we would have so much better discussion here
>all those Nintendrone defence force in comment section
>"B-BUT YOU ARE JUST BAD AT THE GEAM!1!!!"
>>336510434
>I mean when the game released you literally couldn't give your opinion on the game unless you owned it
I know this concept is totally alien to the average /v/ user (which is also why the shitposting is off the charts), but you need to actually have played a game to make educated statements about it.
>honest trailers
fuck off normies
>>336495160
pc flight simulators use joysticks, Star Foz Zero is a game that is hated because instead of having simple controls, it turns the Wii U gamepad into a pc simulator flight stick.
also, aiming with the wii mote is the best way to simulate the act of shooting in a videogame.
>>336493276
>>336495050
what is splatoon?
>>336490592
the dual screen stuff is the only real problem here it should have been a third person game only
>>336503686
>>336504218
>Splatoon doesn't need to have a dedicated button for resyncing the reticle but this game does.
That's because Splatoon only has to stay synced with the aiming reticle perfectly centered with the camera on one screen at all times.
There's really no other graceful way to fix the problem SF0 has besides having a dedicated button, because when you unlock the reticle from either one of the camera, you're eventually going to get some inevitable desync.
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>>336490592
If only Mike Stoklasa/Mr. Plinkett could review video games.
This game would be pure shlock.
So to those of you who have actually played the game: is it actually trash, or is it worth playing? And is it as short as 64 is? I saw that tower defense game that comes with it, it gave me some concerns.
>>336515016
Shorter than 64, fewer planets, branching paths don't really branch at all, controls have some issues but the gyro isn't that much of a problem (especially if you make it only sync when you are firing), writing feels weaker overall although that could just be the poor voice acting. Overall I'd say it's worth playing, but you should pirate it.
>>336515016
I like it, as in, 8.5/10, but then, I have never had problem adapting to controls ever, Ecco the Dolphin is one of my favorite videogames.
It is a game with a high learning curve based around split screen and motion control aiming.
the gamepad is used not to control the ship as in a shmup, but as if you were in a cockpit
this is the kind of game that would benefit from a demo, or would have benefited from rentals in the 90s
>>336511631
ah yes I to laugh heartily at how Nintendo fans are the only ones that seem to be inteligent enough to point out legitimiment flaws in the critique. The ironic fact that Sony and Mircosoft fans have been reduced to such casuals is quite entertaining.
That's pretty spot-on.
>>336490592
Do you listen to everything your favorite youtubers say?
>>336493276
>Implying motion controls are a bad idea for aiming
You should try a Wii U, you might actually like it instead of talking shit about it and not knowing anything.
Its been a piss-poor gen all around for Nintendo. You know you're in trouble when MK8 is the best game your company can produce in 4+ years.
>>336508785
I would rather see them get bought out and go software-only than limp on with another failure like the Wii U. If the NX is another failure it will be Nintendo's last console.
>>336517458
They might as well have just called the system "Nintendo Mario Kart and Smash Bros. Box."
>>336517458
And that it's getting active complaints.
Isn't Bandai Namco responsible for a lot of this shit?
>>336490592
my only gripe is that the capital ships look like shit and all enemies look like shit
Star Fox Assault sucked but the ships look amazing
>>336517615
Not really. They collaborated on Smash 4 and Pokken, and those are pretty much the only two Nintendo-related things they've been involved with.
>>336517615
Bamco did major parts of MK8(like with DD) and made Smash by themselves.
And i think they worked on a lot more games.
Nintendo had a piss poor performance and i cant even think of a game they made themselves(core teams) that turned out good.
>>336518308
No.
They are literally the first thing mentioned in the MK8 credits.
>>336518387
>>336518512
>https://youtu.be/N_U6jtyFNiE?t=202
They're under special thanks, but do you have any that they were a major contributor?
