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WHO IS THE BEST JAP GAME CREATOR
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Out of these guys who are all still making games, which one makes the best games?

>Hidetaka Miyazaki
Souls series and Armored Core

>Katsura Hashino
SMT, Persona, Catherine

>Hideo Kojima
Metal Gear series

>Hideki Kamiya
Created stylish action genre: Bayonetta, DMC, TW101, Okami, etc

>Hideaki Itsuno
Perfected Kamiya's stylish action with DMC3 and DMC4, Dragon's Dogma

>Goichi Suda
No More Heroes, Killer7, Lollipop Chainsaw, Killer is Dead

>Shinji Mikami
Creator of Resident Evil, Vanquish, God Hand, Kamiya's mentor

>Yoko Taro
Creator of weird shit in video games: Drakengard, Nier

>Masahiro Sakurai
Smash Bros, Kid Icarus Uprising, Kirby

>Tetsuya Nomura
Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts

Feel free to suggest someone not on here
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>>336479703
Inafune obviously
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>>336479703
The best are
Swery
Taro
Kamiya
Itsuno
Kojima
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>>336479703
I don't recognize alot of the games listed, but the guy that made dark souls wins obviously
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>>336479703
ZUN>>>>KEKS AT DICE /BioWare >>> OP's LIST
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>>336480127
cancer
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The best developer in japan is probably some humble guy no one's ever heard of that gets his credit taken by one of the guys listed above.
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Kojima
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Pixel
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Hideki Kamiya.
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Kamiya is the best guy from the lot. That boi is down.
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some of the guys from team ICO should be on that list
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Which jap dev is the cutest?
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>>336481506
You're thinking of Ueda I believe. If TLG is good he deserves to be a contender for sure
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>>336480579

That picture my side
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>>336479703
Obvs Itagaki
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>>336480127
I like 2hu but you need to kill yourself real quick.
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>>336479703
Kamiya is pretty great, I like how he goes around a lot, making different games everytime.
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Itsuno, miyazaki and kojima
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>Torotoro
Monster Girl Quest
Monster Girl Quest: Paradox
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>>336479703
damn, they look terrible. did they stumble into this flower shop after a night of drinking or something?
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>Miyazaki
>Armored Core
He worked on, what, two of the games? Of which one went on to be the worst thing to have ever happened to the series.
I'mma say Kamiya.
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>>336482339
that's not a person that's a bunch of artists of varying quality but still i agree
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Tetsuya Takahashi

No other JRPG director compares
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I bet kojima is fun at parties
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junichi masuda pre-gen VI pokemon
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>weeb game creators

Holy shit, fuck off weebs
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For me, it's a tie between Miyazaki and Kamiya.

Miyazaki
>Gave up his well paying job to pursue his dream of making games
>Basically saved Demon's Souls from being a shitty TES clone and instead made it something fresh and unique
>Expanded the DeS template to make a series of games that were each very well received (fuck the niche of DS2 haters)
>Is now the president of his studio and is probably the sole reason why FROM has gotten any sort of recognition
>Is extremely humble and passionate, preferring to let the games speak for his skills rather than the other way around

He's just overall very inspirational. Probably one of my biggest influences in gamedev.

As for Kamiya
>Extremely passionate about video games
>Is not afraid to speak his opinion
>Super confident in his games and abilities

He's just awesome.

Kojima is close, but I feel he focuses too much on some needless details and making games too much like movies or TV. He's not bad in any sense though.
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>>336483147
slit your throat, cocksucker
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It's Miyazaki. DaS3 and BB are the highlights of this gen.
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>>336483147
did you know that the western/fantasy themed ARPG was first made by nips in 1984 with a game called dragon slayer? elder scrolls and witcher are basically weeb games
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Depends on who hasn't become a hack yet. Kojima and Nomura are both hacks and Kamiya is on his way to hackitude. I would say Sakurai is a hack for what eh did to Brawl but fuck me Uprising is a perfect game.
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>>336483197
>is probably the sole reason why FROM has gotten any sort of recognition
Fucking normies, man.

You forgot the part where he killed From's longest running and critically acclaimed series along the way. The pre-Miyazaki AC titles were easily the best console robot games available, and he brought an end to all that.

But hey, he made a half-decent series by balancing the combat in a title that was already almost feature-complete, and then rehashed 3 times, so now he's an "inspiration".


Then you go on to talk about how Kamiya is great because he shitposts on Twitter, and you think Kojima is even worth mentioning despite him blatantly being the Eastern David Cage.
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Hashino, Miyazaki, Suda, Nomura

I'd say Kojima but I'm still mad
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>>336479703
anyone who says kojima is a faggot who likes shit writing and movies over actual games.
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>>336483747
>long running
yes
>critically acclaimed
no

Quit being such a mad hipster, Tenchu and Otogi are both good games.
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>>336483904
Edgy
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>>336479703
Tetsuya Nomura is the character designer of Final Fantasy.

the developers of Final Fantasy are

Sagaguchi: (1-5), wrote 9
Kitase: 6-8, now producer
Toriyama: 10, 13 and subseries
Ito: 9, 12 (combat designer)
Yoshida: FF14 ARR
Tabata: FF15, Crisis Core FF7, Type-0


People that are part of Final Fantasy Quality committee:

Kitase
Toriyama
Yoshida
Tabata
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>>336479703
>Ctrl-F Miyamoto
>0 results
Seriously? Donkey Kong, Super Mario Bros., Zelda, Star Fox... come the fuck on, there's no contest.
>b-b-but muh neo-nintendo
Plenty of developers in OP's list have only made shit recently.
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>>336479703
I'd say Kojima but he's greatly declined in quality.
I'll go with Kamiya.
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>>336483747
My god man, chill the fuck out. Take your sperg medication or something.

FROM did make great games, but they weren't a household name until Dark Souls. They were super niche until then.
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>>336483747
Dark Souls alone sold more than all the AC games put together.
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>>336484294
SMB is the only stand out title Miyamoto has had any direct influence on.

It's a masterpiece, but you can't seriously rely on something perfected in the 80s for your entire career.
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>>336484294
>Plenty of developers in OP's list have only made shit recently.
which is the point of this thread you illiterate retard
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>>336479703
>Miyazaki even listed

Fromdrones are this delusional
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>>336483904
Faggot cocksucker. The MGS games are filled with great gameplay. Being a cocksucker probably obstructs seeing that.
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>>336484551
He is Japanese

He is a game creator

Kill yourself retard
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>>336479703
When it comes to the actual games: Itsuno, Kojima, and Mikami.
When it come to being fucking insane, but enjoyable: Taro

I miss Suda being insane.
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>>336484595
>great gameplay
Nope. They're fun, sure, but the gameplay is clearly never the focus, which is why it remained almost unchanged since the first game, where it was probably created by some underpaid team at Konami. Kojima fancies himself a writer, not a gameplay designer, which would be fine if the guy had any fucking clue how to write.
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>>336479703
>Souls series and Armored Core
Miyazaki created neither of those.
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>>336479703
>Circlejerking any one game creator/company
kys my man
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>>336484937
who did then, smart guy?
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>>336484758
Taro only has made decent game and an alright game (NEIR and Drakengard 3). The other 2 Drakengard games were shit and unplayable.

Compared to developers from Square Enxi like Motomu Toriyama, it's not a strong track record. FF10 and FF13 were decent, FF13-2 and FF10-2 were mediocre and LR was passable/okay.
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>>336484294
Miyamoto (and Platinum's incompetence) is pretty much the sole reason why the new StarFox is so terrible.

Instead of sticking to an established formula and expanding upon it (which is what all of the fans wanted), we got gimmicky motion and second screen controls that are tempermental as fuck because of Miyamoto's desire to make something new.

Miyamoto is washed up now. He's a great man who's made great games, but he's also responsible for ruining some of his own series of games (thanks StarFox Adventures and now Zero), and essentially killing others (goodbye F-Zero). He's really only good at making Mario games, which ironically enough, all used the same established formulas over and over again ad-nauseum.
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>>336479703
Top 3 for me in no particular order
Katsura Hashino
Kotaro Uchikoshi
Kazutaka Kodaka
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>>336480127
>it's a 2hu faggot episode
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>>336484937
We was director on 4 and FA.

And, he was directing DeS while directing FA, if I remember correctly.

Guy is fucking insane in a good way, and that's why I love him.
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>>336484669
Miyazaki is not a big name game director

He doesn't belong on that list
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>>336485182
>Miyazaki is not a big name game director
>Soulsfags still in denial of the fact that their game is mainstream

He's bigger and more relevant than the majority of that list right now.
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>>336484998
One was around a fucking decade before he joined the company, which he was then put in charge of. His game, AC4, is widely considered to be the absolute worst in the franchise by a large margin. The other game was mostly complete before Miyazaki was brought on board, and his contribution is unlikely to ever be fully evident.
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>>336484998
I don't know who created Demon Souls but it was in development before Miyazaki became involved.
And Miyazaki had absolutely nothing to do with the first Armored Core game.
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>>336485021
I adore Drakengard 1, and I agree that it's shit.

Drakengard 2 was abysmal garbage, but Taro had little to do with it.

NIER was pretty good and Drakengard 3's problems were its shitty shitty holy shit who programed this (?) framerate.
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>>336479703
Nagoshi obviously

>Yakuza series
>Daytona USA
>F-Zero GX
>Binary Domain
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>>336479703
ZUN
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>>336485021
3 was meh, and he didn't work on 2. 1 was great though.

None of the FF games are even worth playing.
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>>336485182
>Dark Souls
>Not a big name game series

Nigga, do you know how many copies the Souls series has sold overall? Shit is practically mainstream now.

Hell, DS1 sold so many copies during its original release period that it almost saved Bamco from going bankrupt just by itself.
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besides KG Inafune, Japanese developers tend to be the more honest regardless of whether you agree with them or not. They will do what they want to do.
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>>336484929
>which is why it remained almost unchanged since the first game
kys memelord
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OP's list lacks Sakaguchi, Igarashi, Ueda and the guy that worked on the Megaman Zero series
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>>336485398
A fantastic composer who makes simplistic, average games with cute girls for fapbait.

He's not really a game creator. He's never innovated in the field.
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Honestly, Itsuno might be one of my favourites. DMC3, 4 and DD. I like most of them though. I used to really like Sakurai but I think he either got lucky or lost his touch as Brawl and Sm4sh are weird as shit. He keeps throwing in random stuff nobody wants.
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>>336485472
Undertale sold a shit ton and got wide coverage.
Does that mean the dude who created it is now a big western video game creator?
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>>336479703
What is that dumb pose supposed to express?
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>>336485824
Blocked
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>>336485720
>Undertale sold a shit ton
It barely sold a million. Dark Souls sells 5 million copies per installment. Miyazaki is big. Stop deny that. And I don't know what the fuck you have to bring up Undertale you furry cocksucker.
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>>336485824
>tfw being held hostage by microsoft
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>>336485371

>Nagoshi

THIS

Beats the shit out of all these faggots >>336479703
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>>336485694
Honestly, Smash is the worst thing you can try from Sakurai
Did you try out Kid Icarus?
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>>336485472
>Miyazaki
>Anywhere near Kojima, Kamiya, Itsuno, Suda, Nomura or Sakurai in terms of units sold or reputation
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>>336485720
Has Toby Fox made a SERIES of games like Miyazaki has?

When he does, then yes. Toby Fox will be a big name indie dev.

Miyazaki is big because the Dark Souls series is big. Trying to pretend otherwise is just silly.

He's not as big as Kojima for obvious reasons, but I'd argue he's probably more well known now than Kamiya is.
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>>336479703
People started to hate Miyamoto since Color Splash because they are misinformed sheep who follow trends
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>>336485936
it's like you can't even read
the OP clearly is talking about people who still make games, not bums who sit on their spray tanned asses all day and do nothing
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>>336486015
Dark Souls 1 has sold more copies overall than most Platinum games combined.

He's pretty fucking big. The only reason why he doesn't seem as big as Kamiya is because he doesn't have a fucking loud mouth like Kamiya.
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>>336486075
>Has Toby Fox made a SERIES of games like Miyazaki has
Miyazaki didn't create the Souls series.

>Miyazaki is big because the Dark Souls series is big.
Miyazaki didn't create the Souls series.

>He's not as big as Kojima for obvious reasons, but I'd argue he's probably more well known now than Kamiya is.
I suppose the first is true, but people know Kamiya from twitter and I doubt many people outside of Dark Souls fans know who Miyazaki actually is.
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>>336484510
Dude, he also directed
>Fucking Donkey Kong (any game that has a documentary made out of its competitive community is a classic)
>SMB3
>The original LoZ
>Super Mario 64 (he invented QPUs)
>Ocarina of Time

Those are stand-out games. They're all often put way up in top vidya lists of all time. And he DIRECTED all of those. He didn't direct Sticker Star. He didn't direct SF0. Even if he had input on those games, it's the director's responsibility to either make those ideas fun or prove they're not good and discard them.
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>>336486015
Suda, Itsuno and Kamiya have never made a game that sold as much as Dark Souls. They are great directors but you're sorely misguided if you don't think Dark Souls is a huge success.
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>>336486156
But he's working on Yakuza 6 you dumbo
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>>336483747
>killed
Miyazaki already said that he's interested in reviving Armored Core.
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Since we're talking about directors, what happened to western directors? It's like they all vanished overnight.
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>>336486149
Was meant for this >>336484294
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>>336486149
Sagaguchi hasn't really made much. Last 'big' game he made was The Last Story. He really needs to

Motumo Toriyama should be higher like Average+ given how his games keep the series relevant and how people wanted more from said game.

Hajime Tabata should NOT be that high. He made the decent Crisis Core, Alright Type-0 and the shit The 3rd Birthday. And we don't know the quality of Final Fantasy XV.
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>>336486285
>Miyazaki didn't create the Souls series
>He was lead director on every Souls game besides DS2
>He was responsible for how the games played and the story was told

Nigga, what the fuck? Next you're going to tell me that Kojima didn't create Metal Gear, or Kamiya didn't make Bayonetta.
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>>336486430
feminism
and the obsession with film over all other mediums
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>>336486285
>Miyazaki didn't create the Souls series.
Except he did. There would be no Demon's Souls without him. Maybe, just maybe there would have been some other action RPG in its place, but it wouldn't be Demon's Souls.
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>>336486426
Actually, Miyazaki already said that if you want a new Armored Core game you'll have to ask Bandai Namco...
Because they own that now.

>>336486501
>He was responsible for how the games played
No he wasn't, the game was already in development.

>>336486552
>Except he did. There would be no Demon's Souls without him.
Demon Souls was already in development.
Fuck, its almost as if you people don't know what your talking about but what are the odds of that happening here.
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>>336486538
Also EA and Activision decided to fuck them all in the ass.
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>>336486149
Kojima needs to be knocked down a tier after TPP
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>>336486149
I'd put IGA and Itagaki in average
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>>336486646
>Demon Souls was already in development.
No, a game that became Demon's Souls after Miyazaki got involved was in development. A game that might have never even come out.
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>>336479703
I feel like Kamiya might be the objectively superior dev, even though I don't care for the games he's made, save for Okami (Which I didn't know about until now lol, and Viewtiful Joe if he made that) because his games are innovative in the genres he makes them for, but he seems like a bitch IRL but that's besides the point.

I'm super biased towards Kojima because I'm a big MGS fan and a fan of him in general because he's so lovable.

Super personally though, I'd probably say Sakurai because of Kirby and Melee alone.

That said, I like all of these developers even though I haven't played all of the games on this list. Some of them just obviously are good at making good and cool stuff.

Best unlisted dev is Amaya/Pixel
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>>336486149
>Ishiwatari
>Average
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>>336486646
>Demon Souls was already in development.
all this means is that Bamco was planning a fantasy game, the Demon Souls we got is thanks to Miyazaki, the only thing they had before him was the name "Demon Souls"
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>>336481751
Kamiya is pretty adorable ngl
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>>336486748
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were a part of the development team for Demon Souls.
At what point during development did Miyazaki come on again?
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>>336486646
Yes, and then he refocused the development of DeS to be more like how the Souls games are today, rather than the shitty TES clone it was originally supposed to be.

He's the reason why the Souls games play the way they do. In that sense, he essentially created the Souls formula, and thus created the Souls series from said formula.
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>>336486149
>Yasumi Matsuno
>Sakaguchi
>Irrelevant
It still hurts
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>No Kenichiro Takaki

It's almost like you guys DONT like titty ninjas
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>>336486851
>all this means is that Bamco was planning a fantasy game, the Demon Souls we got is thanks to Miyazaki
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were a part of the development team for Demon Souls.
At what point during development did Miyazaki come on again?
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>>336486802
GG and BB are great but come on, he can only make one genre. No, not even one genre, he can only make 2D anime street-fighter likes, which is more of a sub sub genre if not a single game with a few modifications
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Miyazaki, Nomura and Itsuno are the only directors worth a shit in your list.

Another very underrated director is Matsuzo Machida.
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Miyazaki by far.
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>>336486149
>ishiwatari
>average
>main composer and also programer
>not only that he also do the scriptboard, the story and the art

shit list
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>>336486286
>>>Fucking Donkey Kong (any game that has a documentary made out of its competitive community is a classic)
Completely meaningless point, and the game is trash. Pac-man and space invaders are still the kings of that era, no matter how much Americans want to believe in DK.
>>SMB3
Falls under SMB.
>>The original LoZ
Is not a good game. Neat at the time, but it doesn't hold up.
>>Super Mario 64 (he invented QPUs)
Babby's first 3D title, and it's a stinker. A completely flawed camera and multiple shitty stages make the game a chore to play. Loved by kids whose parents didn't love them enough to buy a Playstation, because they just didn't know any better.
>>Ocarina of Time
Eh, I'll give you that one.


The main issue is that his actual input on a lot of these games is very wishy-washy. Shit like "oh, I told the team to come up with something exciting" doesn't make him a good creator. And the higher he went in the company, the worse the games got. He's given far too much credit while not actually ever talking about the things he actually did while working on a lot of these games.
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Miyazaki has made the two best games this gen (BB/DaS3) so he's king of the hill as of now.

Bloodborne is pretty much art desu.
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>>336479801
THANK YOU CON MAN
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>>336486961
when it stopped being King's field 5
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>>336486851
Well, the name Demon's Souls, and a game that supposedly played like a shittier version of TES Oblivion.

While he technically didn't create the name/IP, he did reshape how the game played and essentially was responsible for the final product. He was also lead director of the Dark Souls series (which doesn't include DeS or BB) on both DS1 and DS3, so he is responsible for creating the Souls series.

I really don't know why this guy in insisting otherwise.
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>>336486996
So? We're discussing quality, not variety. He also worked on Overture and Hard Corps Uprising
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>>336486942
Dude, Motomu Toriyama's number title games keep the series relevant. Plus people actually ASK for the subseries (FF10-2, FF13-2, and therefore LR).

That's something that Matsuno can't do. At least Sagaguchi has the excuse of 'I'm in a lower budget studio'. Matsuno doesn't have jack shit to excuse himself.

He's a lackluster/irrelevant developer. This is the reason why Toriyama is part of the Final Fantasy quality control and Matsuno left after his mental breakdown.
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>>336487086
>>The original LoZ
>Is not a good game. Neat at the time, but it doesn't hold up.

you are high as hell
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Let's settle this
http://www.strawpoll.me/10128990
http://www.strawpoll.me/10128990
http://www.strawpoll.me/10128990
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>>336486883
Read the interviews, numbnuts. He clearly stated that the project had been a failure and didn't even have a decent prototype before he joined in.
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>>336479703
Koizumi
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>>336487176
The studio had decided it wouldn't be King's Field 5 before development started.
Miyazaki did not join until after development had already started.
Do your research, faglord.
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>>336487189
What the fuck are you even on about? Matsuno isn't even making games anymore. How the fuck can you whine he isn't making good games anymore when he quit the damn businesss a decade ago?
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>>336487086
>The main issue is that his actual input on a lot of these games is very wishy-washy.
I only listed the games he directed. Also I feel really sorry for your shit taste
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>>336487315
I want to see Koizumi spread his wings, and work on an original IP
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>>336479703
Shigeru Miyamoto

Kind of a has-been, but without him gaming wouldn't be what it is today. I don't think anyone in the OP has had quite the same impact on the industry.
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>>336487086
Regardless of whether you like it or not, SM64 was still a pioneer in 3d gaming. It's a massively innovative game.
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>>336487382
then why the fuck are high res king's field assets in the game?
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>>336487456
Then that kind of makes it worse. Instead of retiring, he just quit altogether. Hell, Sagaguchi still makes games and he is at a perfect age to retire.
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>>336487086
>MY OPINIONS ARE FACTS.shitpost.zip
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>>336487460
he doesn't make good games anymore

>starfox zero
>pikmin
>good
lel
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1.kamiya
2.miyazaki
3.hashino
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>>336487552
Because its common practice for developers to cut corners by reusing assets.
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>>336487559
>that makes it worse
What part of NOT MAKING GAMES ANYMORE don't you understand? Matsuno doesn't need a fucking excuse because he's not in the fucking business and hasn't been for a decade ago.
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>>336484294
Miyamoto is washed up. He lost his creative spark years ago. He's also a huge dick. Your post would be more agreeable years ago but not anymore now.
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>>336487552
Not him but it was probably just a reference 2bh. It was supposed to be a spiritual successor, not a sequel. Were there any others besides the snake men?
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>>336487382
But, DeS didn't even play like DeS until Miyazaki got on board.

He didn't create the series from its inception, but he did dictate how it would play and basically saved it from being an absolute failure.

As such, he essentially created the Souls formula, and created the Souls series.

I don't understand why you have to hate on Miyazaki so much. Did you want DeS to be a generic and shitty TES clone?
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>>336485304
>His game, AC4, is widely considered to be the absolute worst in the franchise by a large margin.
That's an odd way of spelling Ninebreaker.
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>>336479703
PAPA FRANKU?!
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>>336487742
Hello 9gag
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>>336487568
>implying he directed Star Fox Zero
>implying he directed Pikmin
>implying Pikmin is bad
da fuk
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>>336479703
Keiichiro Toyama
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>>336487730
>But, DeS didn't even play like DeS until Miyazaki got on board.
The gameplay for DeS is just an adaptation of the control scheme for Kuon, which Miyazaki had nothing to do with.
The only aspect of the game we know Miyazaki influenced is the online.

>As such, he essentially created the Souls formula, and created the Souls series.
No he didn't. The gameplay elements already existed in prior Fromsoft games.
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>>336487787
Don't talk shit about 9gag you fucking cunt we're the place you get all of your dank memes from you cum guzzling faggot. One more comment like that and my buddies at 9gag will all DDoXx you.
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>>336487459
The problem (it seems) in japanese business, is that the moment you become successful, you become a manager. Such a waste.
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>>336487638
That's a really dumb excuse because it's a new model of a King's Field enemy, not literally the same model from King's Field IV.
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>>336479703

My favorite genre is Fantasy RPG and I prefer ARPG over tactical, so Demon/Dark Souls and Dragons Dogma is my choice, ultimately Miyazaki though. Nier has potential in the future.

Regarding who is the best dev on paper,
Miyazaki, Kojima, Hashino, Itsuno and Nomura are all creators of something extremely unique and awesome. However Nomura has the best legacy thus far. He is the only one with two really respected franchises. If Miyazaki can continue making amazing games and not just SoulsXXVI, he will become the greatest. Kojima is dying as fast as Snake and if there is anyone else who seems to be making great games these days it is Kamiya who is relatively young. In his case, because he tend to abandon franchises, he needs to keep delivering with the various games he makes. If he can keep pulling out shit like Bayonetta with additions to his signature gameplay for the next decade, he will be huge.
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>>336487910
smg 2, which was based off of koizumi's idea and basic design you nigger. He didnt fuck that up at least but dont pretend like hes responsible for the series.
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>>336479703
Kamiya
The dude who made DMC3/4
Itagaki before he left Team Ninja
Daisuke the GG head dev
Mikami before he became a shmuck good for one solid game every two decades


Honestly probably Daisuke or Itsuno for me and i prefer Ninja Gaiden Black/2 to any other action games. Itagaki just doesn't have the overall track record Itsuno does and GG is my favorite fighter series of all time.

All the people on that list are great though. Also you forgot to mention Shadows of the Damned for Suda which is a rushed by fucking beautiful gem his best work imo.
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>>336487315
Came here to mention him. He's one of the unsung heroes of Nintendo. Everything he's directed has been pure gold, he's responsible for the scenarios of Link's Awakening and Majora's Mask (the two Zelda games most praised for story) and he was handpicked by Miyamoto himself to take over the 3D Mario games.

I think the big four right now would be Koizumi, Kojima, Ueda and Kamiya. They're all pretty much at the end of their careers, though.

I really want to see who's going to succeed them, especially with Mario.
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>>336488019
that's true for all business, everywhere
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>>336487721
but why demon's is the only one qith kings field enemies?. none of the other spiritual succesors have it
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>>336488064
>That's a really dumb excuse because it's a new model of a King's Field enemy, not literally the same model from King's Field IV.
Then they aren't King's Field assets, which is what YOU called them, you stupid fuck.
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>>336486295
>Suda, Itsuno and Kamiya have never made a game that sold as much as Dark Souls

>Kamiya
Resident Evil 2 sold 5 million copies

>Itsuno
Devil May Cry sold 3 million copies

Suda's games were always niche

Both vanilla Dark Souls 1 and the Prepare to Die edition only sold around 2 million copies and they only add up to 4-5 if you count both versions of the game as the same thing
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>>336487094
Don't work DMC5 is right over the hill Itsuno will reclaim it. And if the Nioh full game is anything like the Alpha but better whoever is heading that will claim a spot above Miya as well.

DaS3/BB are some of my top 5 games of this gen but i really hope they don't remain that way. Maybe the DLC of BB but otherwise i hope not they're good but nothing in the grand scheme of games we've gotten before.
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>>336488146
>but why demon's is the only one qith kings field enemies?
slimes are in king's field and slimes are in all the dark souls games
skeletons are in king's field and skeletons are in all the dark souls games
dragons are in king's field and dragons are in all the dark souls games
seath is from king's field and seath is in dark souls
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>>336488180
Dear god you're a fucking idiot. I'm not even him but you have to be literally braindead to not understand what he meant. It's the exact same enemy that's seen in King's Field IV, except with an HD model to fit the rest of the game.
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>>336479801
Idk a lot about him as a creator, but I will say Mega Man and Dead Rising are probably some of my favorite IPs of all time.
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>>336488180
so you didn't know what you were talking about?
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>>336488094
Actually Hayashida directed 2. Either way, my point stands. The problem is he's in management now. He has not DIRECTED a single bad game in his entire career, and he's been making games since the 80s if not the 70s. That's a feat no developer in OP can boast.
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>>336488146
Dark Souls 1 and 3 have snake men enemies similar to the King's Field IV ones
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>>336488372
No, you didn't. That's why you called them assets, like a fucking idiot.
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>>336479703
Kotaro Uchikoshi is pretty based

>Created the Infinity series
>Expanded upon the formula and created Zero Escape, one of the most critically acclaimed VN/Adventure game franchises of all time.
>Loves the Western fans, says their support is the reason ZTD is getting made
>Cried tears of joy when /v/ sent him a card
>Worked on Pepsiman
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>>336488240
DMC4 also solid around 2.3 million copies not counting SE copies.

If anything RE2 selling 5 million copies is the equal to GTA sales of its time. The population of people playing games back then weren't even 1/10th of what it is today. 5 million back then is easily atleast 1/2-1/3 people who played games in the USA atleast.
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>>336488138
Don't forget sakurai. They're all around the same age (~45) except kojima, so i think at LEAST another decade of prime age potential. At least those 5 seem really with it in terms of keeping up with the industry.
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>>336488240
Alright so DaS sold as much as RE2. That makes it a tie. I don't understand how this is more wrong than your first post claiming completely elsewise. Dark Souls is big. It's probably as big as a Japanese game can get these days. DaS3 is selling much faster than DaS and could very well end in the 6-7 million region at this pace.
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>>336481751
Kojima and Kamiya will forever be the apex adorable jap dev power couple.

Imagine the two of them having a night in trying to pick a movie to watch. Kamiya wants to watch something flashy with foxy babes, Kojima wants to watch something with impressive visuals and character drama. What do they settle on?

yes I ship kojima and kamiya what of it
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>>336488464
>Cried tears of joy when /v/ sent him a card
I missed that. Got any more you can tell me?
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>>336483197
You need to read up on Kamiya's past, that nigger loves video games. He got a job as a kid so he could afford all the platforms.
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>>336488002
>The gameplay for DeS is just an adaptation of the control scheme for Kuon

What the fuck? How?
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>>336488803
Have you played Kuon? The HUD is practically identical to the Souls games.
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>>336488495
They watch Sucker Punch
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>>336479703
Kojima, hands down.

Dude knows how to make solid game.
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>>336488742
https://twitter.com/Uchikoshi_Eng/status/434147533409882112
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>>336486247
You do know Kamiya was a CAPCOM employee and made several successful franchises there?
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>>336488884
Yes I have, it isn't and even if it was that's hardly what I would call "an adaptation of the control scheme"
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>>336489025
>almost
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Miyazaki directed the studio ghibli films and I like them a lot so I'm gonna go with him
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>>336489025
Reading his twitter, he seems to be humble as fuck. Take a note, spoiled fucking western devs.
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Kenichi Nishi

:(
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>>336489148
Close enough.
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>no Swery
>no Itagaki
>no Yu Suzuki
>no Matsuno
>no Takahashi
>no George Kamitani
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>>336489295
OP did say devs who are sitll making games. A few of those aren't making games anymore or making irrelevant ones.
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>>336489295
all shit
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>>336488490
this anon said it best >>336488465

Also Miyazaki is not as influential as Kamiya Kojima Mikami. You're comparing game industry legends who created entire genres to a young upcoming game designer who had a few good hits.
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>>336488458
yeah but you just followed around without knowing anything also >>336488351
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>>336488490
Is this actually a sales battle?
Then Sakurai wins followed by Nomura and Kojima
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>>336489295
Itagaki is the saddest case of them all. It took so much for him just to get Devils Third out a game that went against alot of his solid beliefs like having good fps and strong AI.

Itagaki with a budget is hands down the best action game dev. NG2 was rushed to shit and still a great game. Its sad we never got a true NG2B
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>>336483869
Kojima is great at times but has too much movie in him.
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>>336486015
Big M is above all those, sadly.

Or more accurate is that they went to shit.
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>>336489618
It's most definitely not a sales battle. But a guy did imply Dark Souls was niche compared to some other Japanese games.

>>336489442
Well that's because those devs were active during the Golden Age of the Japanese console industry and also a time where publishers allowed experimentation. Look, I'm not saying that those guys are bad. I was merely pointing out that in no way or form is Dark Souls niche. In fact, it's probably the biggest hit a Japanese publisher has had in a new IP in ages. Miyazaki clearly possess a talent to create games that hold a unique appeal.
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>>336489749
Kojima gets a few bonus points for trying to let movies inform and inspire his game development rather than just trying to emulate movies like David Cage does. Probably the one thing he got right with MGSV was retaining a cinematic feeling throughout the gameplay without filling the game with non-interactive cutscenes.

He wants video games to be their own medium instead of trying to hold them to another medium's standards. He seems to want to make video games that have a movie-like feeling to them without just being movies, kind of like how Gravity Rush was a game that felt like a comic book without straight-up just being one.
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>>336479703
Sakurai

I haven't been disappointed by any game he has made yet, meteos and KI:U were very fun, looking forward to his latest project.
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>>336490519
The whole "Kojima makes movies" line is an asspull by people who never learned to play MGS properly.

Come back and say that after you properly learn the depth and scope of the MGS3 control scheme. KojiPro clearly care about the gameplay. Even MGSV is one of the few open-world games with gameplay that isn't ass cancer. In fact, I'd say that gameplay is what saves MGSV. It sure as fuck isn't the story, even if some cutscenes have good direction.
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>>336489282
literally who
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>Fumito Ueda
ICO, SotC, The Last Guardian
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>>336492079
Not much of his stuff got translated, so anon you responded to must speak/read Japanese.

Nishi did Chibi Robo, Giftpia, Lack of Love, Moon: RPG Remix Adventure, and I think Captain Rainbow and some other stuff.

Dunno if he's still working though.
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>>336492859
>The Last Guardian
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1.Satoshi Tajiri
2.Shigeru Miyamoto
3.Ryozo Tsujimoto
4.Tetsuya Nomura
5.Yuji Horii
6.Hideo Kojima
7.Hidetaka Miyazaki

This is the correct order.
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>>336486149
>Tabata over Ishiwatari and Miyazaki
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Tetsuya Takahashi
>Chrono Trigger
>Final Fantasy 6
>Xenogears
>Xenosaga
>Xenoblade
>Xenoblade X
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>>336494974
Majora's Mask is the best one.

The planet thing isn't really innovative though.
It's basically just an aerial view.
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>>336485021
I believe all original Drakengard's praise is just because the soundtrack, which is fucking borderline majestic, to be honest.
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>>336486149
>Baba
>average

Put him in the abortion tier. Tales games are fucking dead because of him.
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>>336494652
>pokeshit
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>>336479703
Itsuno just creates mindless button mashers with no depth to them that only babbies can enjoy and I know this since I've put in over 300 hours into DMC4 just so I can say he is a terrible developer who doesn't deserve an ounce of praise and the fact that you even CONSIDERED putting him in the same list as Kamiya is both an insult of the HIGHEST order and a sign of shit taste.
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>>336497389
Itsuno has made the two best character action games of all time. 300 hours is nothing. I doubt you know DMC4 Dante well enough.
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>>336498386
Don't answer to bait
He didn't give an argument to the "mindless button mashers" part
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>>336498386
Nice try DMCuck, but I have beaten every difficulty in your autistic snooze fest and can say with confidence that they pale in comparison to the glory that is Bayo
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>>336479703
Shiggy
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