After thinking about it for a good amount of time i think i have finally been able to put into words my problem with Overwatch's design:
The game is painfully inoffensive. The cast of characters is composed of all kinds of races and nationalities, and the maps send you all across the globe. It all feels very carefully designed to cater to, well, everyone.
You'll never see any character banter in Overwatch. Characters talking to each other only happen if they are allies, and it's very generic joke-y stuff for the most part. There's no comments on enemies you just killed. There's no trash talk between characters. There isn't a single hint of black humour in this game, and it really makes it feel so painfully sterile and boring.
Overwatch isn't a game designed for children - It's a game designed to pander to EVERYONE. To the "safe space" demanding youth who think integration and representation is literally all that matters. It's an extremely cynical game hand-crafted to offend no one and try to sell as much as it can as a result.
>>336475364
I can't play as a real nigga in though
SCOTLAND IS NOT A REAL COUNTRY
YOU ARE AN ENGLISHMAN IN A DRESS
GO BACK TO YOUR CHESS GAME YOU COMMIE PINKO
I enjoy the gameplay and the class design, but you're right, the philosophy of the game, if you want to call it that, is far too 'safe'.
>There's no comments on enemies you just killed. There's no trash talk between characters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knD6CqI3t04
there's other instances of this occurring in the game but it's hard to find specific examples on youtube right now
>>336476119
WOW
THATS FUCKING NOTHING
"DEATH COMES"
NO SWEARING?
NO COMMENTS ABOUT HIS ETHNICITY?
NO COMMENTS ABOUT HIS WORK?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GeC51K6P94
>>336476119
That's very cute
I think OP is just a butthurt gamergatefag who is trying to force "SJW RUIN GAMES" bullshit.
Friendly reminder to sage and report this kind of threads
I don't see it OP, I think you just want to complain about something that isnt there.
If that were the case, Pharah wouldnt wear native american getup in one of her legendary outfits. Since she's egyptian, thats literally cultural appropriation, but no one is bitching about it. Same with Roadhog and his ploynesian outfit. Guy is a fat aussie.
There doesnt need to be black humor though
Well one of the devs explicitly stated just that. The game is intended for everyone. It's as cynical as game design can get. Every character is intended for a certain market. And Blizzshit shills are even shitting out SFM's on a consistent basis to sell the game to /v/.
>>336476363
>report a thread where OP explains thoroughly why Overwatch is bad
Nah go fuck yourself. The thread is fine. And he's completely right. This game is so safe it becomes boring.
anybody got a key for me ?
>>336476739
>He is this butthurt
My fucking sides
Everyone is a winner :-) The game
>>336476857
>says the fag desperately wanting the thread deleted
Since this is an Overwatch thread I have a different question about the game.
>Does anyone feel like there may be too many classes?
>Has Blizzard ever stated whether or not these classes will get some new weapons in the future?
>Also, how does /v/ feel about that "everyone is a winner" mentality the game has where you can just sneeze on someone and it still counts as a kill?
>>336475364
>and it's very generic joke-y stuff for the most part
There's a line Hanzo and 76 or someone about his (Hanzo's) brother, the implications are pretty dark actually and his reply is quite embittered.
But other that that, yeah. It's a hugbox in a game form, just about.
Also, there's no proper American City level yet. We've had British, Indian, Chinese, and japanese Cities, but nothing quite like the Bronx or anywhere else. Just Route 66, which is more dustbowl middle of nowhere.
>>336476857
>>336477114
>kids are fighting again
>>336477131
3rd is just shit
2nd is probably never gonna happen
We should start flood their forums with cultural appropiation complaints. Tell them you're Pajeet and offended by the shitskin represented. Works everytime.
>>336477114
Try to hide your butthurt better next time!
>>336475364
>caring about this shit
its a fucking game where you shoot people who cares
>>336475364
the game is for kids 13 year and older what did u expect racist jokes about blacks ????
>>336477214
>2nd probably never gonna happen
I feel like if it doesn't it may fuck up the longevity of Overwatch.
>>336477131
>Playing Symmetra
>Turret hits someone for about 5 HP
>They die to someone else
>Counts as my elimination.
>End of the game
>Have 30+ eliminations
I'm good at this game guys right?
I'm Brazilian. Brazilian people LOVE being pandered to. Whenever a random American artist says "You're the best audience in the world" everyone gets all giddy about it. I grew up on this kind of environement and as such i can't stand being pandered to, which is why i think this game is so repugnant to me. When i first heard about Lúcio all i could do was roll my eyes.
The game is a omnipandering hugbox. Combine it with the "everyone is a winner and special snowflake" design and it becomes a really disgusting experience.
>>336475364
If it's anything like dota I really won't give a fuck about that, all of that is just a backdrop.
>>336477389
>weapon dlc pack
its a blizz game afterall
they can get away with it
>>336475364
But is it fun?
>>336477419
>implying assist kill is necessary
it shows you how much damage you do, and people that are good will have more eliminations than you on their assault class
>>336477428
shut up br
>>336477131
>Too many classes
No, not really actually.
>New weapons for classes
0 statements, I doubt it since they're planning to add more classes.
>"everyone is a winner" mentality the game has
The part you mean specifically is kind of annoying, yeah. But it's specifically "If you dealt any direct damage (Or Heal/Buffing someone who dealt direct damage as Mercy) then you get an Elimination popup."
The thing is, the game still tracks actual "kills."
And it sometimes puts people on a card post-game for that, "X kills."
Whereas if you supplied auxiliary support to the kill, such as healing in most cases, via Zenyatta Harmony/Discord Orbs, or Lucio healing, you get an Assist, it's a much smaller marker in the lower center of your screen and feels really pointless.
But yeah, it's trying too hard to "make everyone a winner."
>>336477389
Maybe you should read some of the news about the game.
They add more characters instead of more weapons. It's a better system in all regards.
>>336477428
> Whenever a random American artist says "You're the best audience in the world" everyone gets all giddy about it.
the funny thing is they do this in every country and people just keep falling for it. humans are such sheep like animals sometimes
>>336477428
BR fans in esports are literally the worst.
>>336476857
You do realize that you posted something saying you were saging right?
That makes you a complete fucking faggot. Regardless of what anyone else did.
>REMEMBER TO DOWNVOTE errr SAGE GUYS xD
Fuck off
>>336475364
You're wrong about there not being verbal taunting between characters. They say glib things after killing each other all the time.
>>336477654
>such sheep like animals
but you arent? lmao
>>336477624
How is that a better system at all? We already have a ton of classes, some could've been combined into one in the first place.
>see thread about problems with Overwatch design
>expect a thoughtful critique of game mechanics or map design
>thread is boogieman SJW "so safe it's boring"
>forgot I was on 4chan
All that aside though, how is this even remotely valid criticism? "It plays it too safe" "it's trying to appeal to everyone" might be true when it comes to how the classes were designed, but there's absolutely no way you can say that about what the characters look like.
It literally doesn't matter what they look like, it matters how they play. This is the crux of every argument gamergate has ever used in defense of every white dude protagonist. "It doesn't matter what he looks like, it matters how the game plays!"
See how quickly that argument is dumped when it becomes inconvenient? lel
SHILL
>>336477428
>I'm Brazillian
post disregarded
>>336475364
Despite all, you can still hack in Overwatch and make it enjoyable. After lmaobox got detected I never touched TF2 again. Fuck Valve
>>336477880
>people complaining how characters look
>Its an FPS and you almost never see your character
>>336476119
This single video has convinced me to pre order this game, Tracer is awesome.
>>336475364
I've been really enjoying the game and I agree with you op, hope they put more work into voicelines and charater interactions, don't think they will do much cheeky banter and shit since blizzard became casul central after wc3
>>336478160
As far as I can see, Overwatch is gonna be a real waifu shooter
>>336477880
I think the general feeling is that when people play the game, they get this feeling in the back of their mind that "Something is missing."
And this thread is trying to define what that 'Something' is. And that 'Something' is deeper conflict. Character appearances aside, they have no conflict between each other. There is no conflict even inside the game itself. All of that is left up to the players to put in themselves -- hence the accusations that the game is 'Safe' or 'Lazy.'
>/v/ is suddenly against gamergate
wtf happened
>>336475364
>NOBALANCE: THEGAME
>>336478312
Hanzo and Genji hate each other
>>336478379
Tumblr invasion and the typical contrarianism.
>>336476119
>>There's no comments on enemies you just killed. There's no trash talk between characters.
Compared to TF2, that is neither good or particularly funny.
In general the script and VA is extremely forgettable in Overwatch.
TF2 for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX__swbUwag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFIrP5AvUxM
>>336478312
Nobody that I know has felt that way, but it's true that there doesn't actually seem to be real conflict. Tough to do that character wise when you can mix and match heroes despite what team you were on.
Overwatch excels at what it set out to do, which is to be a fun and casual-friendly, but still deep and potentially competitive objective based team shooter. I've had some of the most gaming fun the last couple days with friends than I've had in recent memory.
It's a great game to just shoot the shit on Skype, drink beers and have fun with.
sterile, yes
if I'd have to use a single word to describe OW that would be it
>>336478312
This I agree with. not that "muh sjw" shit. The problem is there are clearly evil characters like raodhog, reaper, widowmaker ect, but they fight on the same team as the good characters. It's a bit weird and it never seems like the teams are actually against each other in a justified battle.
For instance Counter Strike has terrorists and counter terrorists. they both have goals
>>336478379
People have been wanting Gamergate to get out of /v/ since it started, you guys were the worst and most obnoxious slacktivist movement I've ever had the displeasure of seeing.
>>336475364
Have to agree with this, in TF2 you've got good lines like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8mYfvwsG9U
You can look at any domination line video and be entertained.
In Overwatch there's nothing, all the characters are boring, they're either goody two shoes who can do no wrong or they're eeeeeeeevil like Reaper.
>>336477824
Weapon variety is a completely shit idea to add mechanics to a game.
Best case scenario, you create a slightly different playstyle for a class that could have easily been its own thing.
Worst case scenario you create a shitty version of the default weapon or a blatantly better version.
I'd prefer the gameplay to focus more on core mechanics on an individual character basis, rather than stuffing a hundred gimmicks into a single class, most of which are completely useless.
>>336478310
Does she mock anyone else? I love when a game is mature enough to make fun of its own characters.
>>336478563
Anything 'competitive' to come out of this game is going to be solely driven by Blizzards E-sport Money Printer. Just like they did with Hearthstone. Hearthstone professionals themselves identify the huge errors in the game yet continue to play because there's money behind it. Same thing is going to happen with Overwatch.
Fun and beer friendly? Definitely.
Actually good and 'deep?' Probably not.
>>336475364
Well the girls are sexy so we got that
>>336478312
I do get the feeling that "something is missing" when I play, and I haven't been able to really figure out what that is.
I don't think it's justifiable conflict though. I don't need a justification in any other shooter. For me, it's mostly the map design and objectives, and >>336476259 makes me want to hear the characters taunt each other and stuff. Looking at the voice commands, you have just a bunch of niceties, and none of the taunts are particularly enraging.
I think it's more like this game isn't made for neckbeards who think anything that isn't made to be offensive is an attack on male gamers
>>336479032
>you have just a bunch of niceties, and none of the taunts are particularly enraging.
It's because Blizzard try to make it impossible for you to upset anyone in all their games. Look at Hearthstone: you can only communicate with emotes, and any that can be used sarcastically get replaced. Look at Heroes of the Storm: you literally can't communicate with the enemy team, period.
>>336478312
If you look for flaws in ANY game you'll find them
When you start appreciating games for what they are, you'll enjoy them more.
>>336478546
I can't say I particularly care to play TF2 these days but I'll be damned if they didn't put a ton of work into things like this.
>>336478379
Gamergate brought the SJWs and a general increase in shitposting all around.
Reminds be of how Killing Floor 2 doesn't have an insult players options. People are too sensitive.
>>33647892
Are you kidding? From a competitive standpoint this game has more to offer than any of the shit that's been touted as the height of competitive gaming in the last 4 years.
>>336479195
This is how you think?
Wow that's a very sad mindset you have there SJW fee-fees babby.
Did you think that up in your safe space?
>>336479272
>Look at Heroes of the Storm: you literally can't communicate with the enemy team, period.
Is this true?
>>336479515
No, it's not.
If you say "GG" then the enemy team will be notified.
Otherwise, yeah, gospel.
>>336479467
except, you know, any semblance of balance to it.
>>336479515
>Is this true?
Yes.
>Americans so easily offended nowadays they can't even have jokes in their games
>>336479272
>you literally can't communicate with the enemy team, period.
All right dude that honestly doesn't sit well with me at all pisses me right the fuck off
The internet has given people the ability to revoke and permit the PRIVILEGE (because that is what it is now) to speak
In the modern, Western world, everyone has a "God Given" right to speak their mind. Somehow, though, on the internet, we've come to a place where it's somehow acceptable to completely remove any and all ability for communication.
That's not even remotely okay. Holy fuck.
>>336475364
>After thinking about it for a good amount of time i think i have finally been able to put into words my problem with Overwatch's design:
>fucking nothing about the gameplay
Do you even play video games
>>336478546
scout never ceases to make me laugh
Loving all the straight shota stories and lesbian analingus videos this game has caused. It makes me wish I was a writer and 3D modeler all at once.
>>336479662
I'm fine with the gameplay for the most part. It's not anything stellar but it's what it needs to be. It fits with it being extremely boring in every aspect.
>>336479647
>Look at the toxic cesspool that LoL and DoTA is
>Attempt to remedy that
>Bad idea
>>336479496
You see
You neckbeards are the polar opposite of SJWs
SJWs get offended by everything
You neckbeards think if it isn't offensive, then it's panders to SJWs
>>336479032
>>336479272
>>336479647
>waa waa i can't call other players niggers or annoy them to satisfy my childish need to enrage others thanks to the safety of the internet
literal manchildren.
just play the fucking game you autistic mongoloids.
I'd agree that the word 'safe' fits Overwatch but not in the same way the op does. I get the same feeling I did from Heroes of the Storm; Blizzard very specifically set out to make "popular thing, but easier to play" and jacked up the presentation values to compensate while removing anything that might make a player feel bad. I'm pretty much a huge normalfag when it comes to games and I play a lot of average shit, but nothing about this one enthuses me.
Also holy shit do I not care about their discount superhero universe. Yeah the character designs are top-notch but they're still attached to the ball-and-fucking-chain called 'Blizzard writing'.
>>336480146
>>336480043
As we can see here, people who advocate having their ability to speak removed are the same people who post outdated /b/ memes and Filthy Frank. Coincidence? Most likely not.
>>336475364
>It's an extremely cynical game hand-crafted to offend no one and
So, why is this a bad thing? I mean yeah, fuck the Jews, gas the niggers, all that jazz, but is making a game without the intent of offending someone a bad thing, or am I missing your point.
>>336479578
>Game has been in beta for like 3 months.
>Only people playing it are game journos and streamers.
>People think they can make claims about the games balance based on this.
I'm curious as to how you think a team game where everyone has access to the same characters is unbalanced.
>>336478610
that isn't really an argument, if the characters are interacting with each other it doesn't really matter what team they're on. i mean a soldier taunting a soldier after dominating him in tf2 is literally the same character with the only difference being the color of his uniform talking shit to himself.
>>336479284
you can enjoy a game and critique it at the same time, my favorite game series is monster hunter but i can tell you exactly why some people just cannot get into it.
>>336480146
Literally nothing in the game on my end stops me from using text or voice to call people niggers, that's not the fucking point here.
>>336480327
A friend to everyone is a friend to no one.
>>336477428
>I'm subhuman
Stopped reading right there, shitskin.
>>336480043
>>336480146
What a couple of fucking faggots. I never knew people like this existed.
Like what the fuck are you people even saying?
>>336480343
>I'm curious as to how you think a team game where everyone has access to the same characters is unbalanced.
I'm not sure you understand what "unbalanced" means. In this case it's not an example of advantages between players or teams, but a case of dominant strategy.
>>336478379
Ledditors.
>>336480146
Get a load of this piece of shit
>Overwatch isn't a game designed for children - It's a game designed to pander to EVERYONE
welcome to neo-blizzard
>>336480629
It's Blizzshit shills on /v/. They reply to every post that is critical of the game. They're literally only good for making SFM videos.
>>336475364
>ITS BAD BECAUSE IT DON MAKE NO FUNNY RACIST JOKES LIKE /pol/ !!
No, the real problems are that it is more shallow than COD. It is simplistic, casual, garbage that plays itself. And there is no cohesive logic to the game's design. The maps are all essentially real world locations, albeit embellished or slightly futuristic, yet the characters are things like a cyborg dwarf, an old West gunslinger, and a purple skinned spider lady. There's no internal logic to any of it, it's random and fucking stupid. There's no context or sense for the world they created, it just exists. It has no personality of its own on top of being a mind numbing, unoriginal borefest that is a shameless TF2 clone (maps and modes literally ripped from that game and reskinned, characters that play identically to classes in that, etc).
>the game is bad because it's too politically correct and safe
>not because the entire metagame is based on counterpicking repeatedly, being a moba disguised as an fps
>>336480146
Could you POSSIBLY spout any more memes while making yourself look THAT fucking stupid?
>>336475364
>The cast of characters is composed of all kinds of races and nationalities, and the maps send you all across the globe.
This is not a bad thing.
>You'll never see any character banter in Overwatch. Characters talking to each other only happen if they are allies, and it's very generic joke-y stuff for the most part. There's no comments on enemies you just killed. There's no trash talk between characters. There isn't a single hint of black humour in this game
This is.
I hate pandering as much as the next /v/irgin, but this game is set in like space or whatever, so having a black dude or a woman or whatever works. Racial pandering would be like inserting a strong black character who has a real profession in a WWI game or something.
Either way though, I can't understand why people are excited about this game.
>>336480664
I'd like to hear this dominant strategy.
This has Battlefront written all over it. And just like Battlefront, it's goal to be for EVERYONE will be why people will ignore it.
>>336480798
What map is a TF2 clone? I want to know because TF2 used to have pretty good map design while this is just bland.
It takes itself too serious. The game itself isn't bad but the heroes themselves are unremarkable and unmemorable.
It's like Blizzards take on the Incredibles, but without the wit and humor. Blizzard simply doesn't have the talent for writing so they just don't try.
You guys are really reaching now
I agree with the OP but I wouldn't say that is the main reason I have no interest in the game. It reminds me of your average business stock photo with the happy smiling people of different races all in suits and shaking hands.
The fact that it looks like a Pixar film is a massive turn off.
Main reason I'm not keeping up with it is that its just not my type of game though.
>>336480568
A friend to everyone is a friend to everyone, unless you care to explain otherwise.
You saying because I tolerate Jews, niggers everywhere aren't my friend by default?
Explain your shit more clearly if you want to be taken seriously.
>>336480798
The world is the product of careful focus testing.
>shit, MOBAs are big in Korea. I know, let's add a cute girl in a mecha. Koreans love that.
>shit, Tumblr is whining about us being sexists. I know, let's add some bull dyke to appease to them
>shit, we really need to go for that CoD money. I know let's add some edgy nothing personell characters
The reason why the world clashes so much is because it wasn't made with the intention of being consistent. It was made with the intention of maximizing market penetration in various regions of the world.
>>336481031
Except unlike Battlefront it's at least fun to play.
Yup, I feel you OP. You can just feel how every character was designed in a board room to hit every demographic and be as inoffensive as possible. For all its attempt at personality it feels dead as fuck, and that's just how blizzard games are going to be.
Warcraft titles manage to have a little charm simply because they sometimes draw on content pre modern blizzard.
I don't think witcher is the be all and end all but it's a good example. If you go from a bioware game to witcher you can feel the lack of sterility before you can actually figure out why. It doesn't just hurt character design, it permeates every facet, from world building to story.
Overwatch is actually pretty fun, but I can't imagine they are genuinely trying to go toe to toe with TF2 in terms of personality. I doubt blizzard doesn't know what they are doing but this all just doesn't seem very sustainable to me.
>>336481170
This game wishes it had even a fraction of the charm and graphical fidelity of Pixar and Disney.
>>336481172
You are friend with the jew that hates the nigger.
You are friend with the nigger that hates the jew.
Now comes the point where the nigger can't consider you a friend because you consider his enemy also a friend.
No, unlimited ammo is a much bigger problem.
Overwatch is ruined by the maps.
>Make a team shooter
>There's only ONE objective at any given time, meaning teams don't have to make tactical decisions like splitting up and it all just becomes a dumb clusterfuck of 12 people fighting on one spot, dying and running back for 10 minutes
How did Blizzard think this was a good idea?
You could simply have a fucking map with the same fucking objective, but twice
For example: Map with 2 points almost equally far away from each teams spawn point, if you capture one of the points your team gets points until the other team captures the point. You have that on both objectives and you craete a situation where players have to make tactical decisions of splitting up.
>Do we go there with all 6 of our players and maybe risk losing this objective?
>Do we send 3 players there, since only 3 of the enemies are here that maybe means we can win the team fight there while defending this point
etc.
The way it is now it's just two teams clashing on a single fucking spot that moves the entire game, constantly dying and counterpicking in hopes to get 3 more seconds of dominance in than the other team. It's boring. I don't know how people find that exciting
>>336475364
> game is painfully inoffensive
compated to TF2, which gave you a multicultural cast in locations all over the world.
>>336480146
Not everything is trashtalk. If it really is "just a game", why not let people talk to their opponents casually, like you would when playing a card or board game?
>>336481679
and then gave them some racial stereotypes and amazing banter between the characters.
>>336481369
No. Battlefront is a far better game than this pile of shit.
>>336481559
The unlimited ammo is seriously terrible. It just cements how much this is not a shooter at all. I mean, this is really a very new low in terms of casual games. Never in my life have I seen something so mindlessly easy. Devoid of anything resembling a need for skill or thought.
>>336481679
Well, multi-cultural, sure, but excluding pyro, all are male, 7/8 are white, and all are likely straight. Those are the big "diversity" targets that need to get picked on.
>>336480917
People are hype because blizz has been shilling hard. The entire closed beta was basically an ad campaign, sponsored by twitch streamers and youtube e-celebs.
>>336482021
*tend not need, fuck, I'm ready for finals to be over.
>>336475364
I agree with OP, the game feels like it was made for 8 year-olds.
Just look at the character dialogue, it's soo cliché and stupid. Everything the characters say is cringeworthy, nothing funny or clever at all, compared to TF2 which had amazing character personalities and dialogue.
I still enjoy the gameplay, but it's annoying having the characters talk like they're in a children's cartoon for 6 year olds.
It's neo-blizzard
Same thing as Diablo 3 with it's Power Rangers dialogue and story, And StarCraft 2's extremely dumbed-down story.
>it's too inoffensive
literally the polar opposite of SJWs jesus christ
go play Postal 2 or something, my word
it will fade into obscurity in a month or two like any other blizzard shit that is not warcraft
>>336482214
The thing is, even though there's no blood or gore in this, I probably wouldn't buy it for my kids if I had any. All the very overly sexualized female characters clash with the otherwise very cartoony aesthetic (reminds me of Looney Tunes more than Disney to be fair) and it sends a mixed message. It does feel "kid friendly" aside from that, so I know what you mean, but still.
>>336482592
haha yeah dude hearthstone hasnt outstayed its welcome by years now
>>336481536
and yet this doesn't relate to Overwatch in the least
>>336482856
hearthstone is warcraft though.
>>336480629
They're not saying anything, because they can't communicate with the enemy team.
>>336476119
>>336478546
valve is particularly good with this stuff - tf2, dota heck even new radio chatter commands in csgo.
http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/1/1c/Anti_magicuser_03.mp3
>>336475364
Can this really be a SJW game when its characters look like this?
>>336481050
It's TF2 without the good maps, LOL.
Literally every Overwatch map is a Dustbowl or Gold Rush clone.
I hope you like choke points
>>336475836
Soldier is hands down the best fucking character from any fps.
>>336479647
Its funny you chose that pic with your post, since Mr. Science Guy just recently stated he thinks anyone who speaks skeptically about climate change should be jailed.
>friend pre-ordered months ago and is hyped out of his mind for this shit
>gave me the buddy key they sent with his early access code
>he's played in every beta and still thinks this is the best game ever
>I've only played for 2 days and already completely bored of it
>he asks what I think of it and I give him the honest truth as someone who played TF2 for years, hates mobas, etc
>now he's all defensive and butthurt because I don't love this garbage and see it for what it really is
>>336481236
What demographic is Winston for then? And don't say furry; Winston would probably be female and fanservice-y if they wanted to pander to furries.
>>336483308
you just defined every fanboy ever
>>336482592
It has the staying power of Titanfall and Evolve. Actually feels A LOT like Evolve with the characters, unlimited ammo, etc. There's definitely no depth here. I'm sure people will play it throughout the summer for lack of any other games coming out after it besides No Man's Sky, but come September it will definitely be dead.
>>336483435
There are no black characters so....
>>336483661
ebin
>>336483547
nah Overwatch doesnt have the multiple dlcs that destroy/ fracture the playerbase.
>>336475364
>To the "safe space" demanding youth who think integration and representation is literally all that matters.
But that's exactly the case. Haven't looked out the window lately? There's hardly a branch of our society that isn't made to reinforce the identity of the user; that's literally all that matters now.
It's not who you are, or even who you know, it's who you can convince people you are- through facebook check ins, tweets, instagrams, selfies, you fill in the rest.
We live in the age of the self-staged identity. Nobody is real because nothing is real.
So it follows that something as unreal as videogames must pander to society's norm- it must reinforce the identity of the user. How can it do that if not everyone is represented? That's also the reason you find it 'inoffensive'- an attack on the avatar is the same as attacking the user; they are the same after all (a made up identity)
>>336483697
Those aren't what killed those games. This has the same lack of depth and content that caused people to lose interest in those after a few weeks. There's nothing here, the novelty will wear out very fast.
>>336475364
>safe space
How the hell you put an ass like this in front of me and pretend it's safe
I'm joking of course but seriously I have a boner
This game is like a FPS version of Street Fighter V
>>336475364
Game isn't le edgy enough for op so it sucks
>>336483883
this ass is too perfect, it feels lifeless, boner ded
>>336475614
You can use Winston to punch that like button for real nigga hours.
>>336477369
where do you think you are?
>>336483875
I've played the beta for 6 months and I'm not bored.
>Some other FPS was released and died quickly, therefore this is going to happen with any FPS i don't like
lmfao
>>336478546
God damn this makes me want to reinstall TF2.
>>336476259
I don't even play TF2 but damn those lines give the characters so much more life. Makes me want to check it out.
My only complaint is that they didn't add more communicable voice lines to your team
Sometimes you need abit more than "GroupUp/Acknowledged" especially when i don't feel like grabbing a headset and using voice.
i would love even afew more, hell tf2 has 3 menu's just dedicated to them
>>336481817
>No. Battlefront is a far better game than this pile of shit.
You can roll in Overwatch, so it's already better.
It's the first Blizzard game with a release date in Japan with it's western release. That's kind of odd.
>>336485695
Only one character can roll and it's on a cooldown. Nice try.
>>336486148
Still more rolls than Battlefront has.
>>336480798
you can't be more shallow than cod, this game has projectile based combat and long time to kill. nothing can be more shallow than dying in 1 second to a hitscan.
as far as the thematic design goes its consistently cybernetic and futuristic. All the cliche character archetypes are equipped with futuristic touches and each is a representative hero of their country because thats the basic lore of the overwatch program
i can't think of a single character that plays identical to a class in tf2, some of the gameplay direction is heavily inspired like mercy to medic and junkrat to demo but you honestly can't say they play the same way
Is the beta's content somewhat similar to the final release?
>>336487697
its basically the full game as far as i know
>>336475364
>You'll never see any character banter in Overwatch. Characters talking to each other only happen if they are allies, and it's very generic joke-y stuff for the most part. There's no comments on enemies you just killed. There's no trash talk between characters. There isn't a single hint of black humour in this game, and it really makes it feel so painfully sterile and boring.
to add on this, they game is being marketed as if their is a story or reason for the game to take place, however without any single campaign it all makes it meaningless when literally any former overwatch character is on the same side as widow. all these narrative driven trailers cause dissonance because at no point will the players feel like they made a difference in the world when all they did was complete an object and got a score and bliz drones will still fall for this "OMG SO EPIC" bullshit without remembering this a multiplayer only game
>tfw i was legitimately hype for the potential of watchmen Esq crime fighting shenanigans
>tfw i remembered this game is multiplayer on;y
>tfw all this narrative hype is meaningless
>not getting CLANKED as d.va
>>336477428
>I'm Brazilian
>Overwatch isn't a game designed for children - It's a game designed to pander to EVERYONE
Everyone but me, who hates FPS's and will lose if he tries.
>Liking TF2 over anything.
I haven't played Overwatch, but TF2 is literally a brainless RNG shit-fest with terrible fucking hitboxes and has one of the most cancerous online communities of underaged meme-spurgers ever.
>>336489161
Guess what? Overwatch sets the bar even lower.
>>336477428
Se mata
>>336475364
autism boys
>>336489218
I doubt it.
I haven't seen anything that implies it's fucked up hit boxes any harder than TF2, nor have I seen crits, ubers, or other forced-cancer.
Seems more like Overwatch is just another game that /v/ wants to hate for whatever fucking reason they can find, even when the reason doesn't fucking matter.
>>336478104
Obama, please stay as the president for 8 more years. We need you.
>>336487880
>Watchmen-esque crimefighting shenanigans
Woah, holy shit - I haven't watched any early videos about this because I wasn't interested, but I've seen some gameplay and... how. How were they depicting something like that? I believe you but the current state of the game I would never have guessed it had that sort of "story" or feel going for it.
>>336489161
but it'sfun
>>336489790
watch the cinematic trailers
>>336482938
but thats fuckign wrong you mongoloid, you can talk shit in alltalk chat, theres team chat, and alltalk chat for that reason, I kept ragging on some fucking cunt tracer today who I kept 2shotting with junkrat all game, 15 kills on tracer 1v1 and the fucking guy went full on autismo in the global chat and I had a real nice giggle.
There is banter between characters, when it's relevant. I play Genji, and occasionally, when I kill a Hanzo, I talk shit about being the better brother. Being composed of difference races and nationalities is half realism, half because it's interesting. Going around the world is cool because giant Buddhist temples on mountain summits are cool in a different way that the Mediterranean coast. Characters are simply more diverse as a result of that. To add to it, it gives it a very Justice League-y feel, which is what the game was going for.
As for taunting allies, that's also in game. It just has to be relevant. Reaper talks shit about Winston while they're waiting to go as attackers, and Winston fires right back. Reaper is, lore wise, one of his enemies. Reaper is the enemy of most of the Overwatch.
The voice lines are sparse so that they don't get old, and characters only shit talk when it makes sense to. The characters are designed as friendly and bright because being a super hero is equal parts fighting and PR, so naturally the most famous heroes would be the friendly ones.
>>336483435
Young children. Like, not even fucking around.
"The Big Beast-Man" is always a hit with kids around age 5-10. He's big, he's cool, he's a gorilla.
That's literally it.
>>336477131
1: only if they're unbalanced
2: if it gets new weapons blizz can totally get away with it
>WOW MAN NO ONE'S FORCING YOU TO BUY IT
3: cancer
>>336475364
>The game is painfully inoffensive. The cast of characters is composed of all kinds of races and nationalities, and the maps send you all across the globe. It all feels very carefully designed to cater to, well, everyone.
Nigga they are from all over the world you stupid shit.
The only shit talking done is to robots. Robots are the niggers of the Overwatch universe.
>>336490754
i bet u dont even main bastion fag
>>336483783
on-point, accurate analysis?
better fucking believe it has zero replies
>It's not who you are, or even who you know, it's who you can convince people you are- through facebook check ins, tweets, instagrams, selfies, you fill in the rest.
That is EXACTLY how I just went from a 45k a year job to 95. I had "impressive social media presence." You can not make this shit up.
>>336490870
>Maining Beep boop cuck bot
I want omniggers to leave.
>>336475364
Hmm okay sure, but its still pretty fun. My friend gave me a beta key, and I'm enjoying it so far.
>>336479272
>Look at Hearthstone: you can only communicate with emotes, and any that can be used sarcastically get replaced.
>Wow!
>Hello!
>Getting replaced.
Hello BM isby proxygood BM
>>336488412
D . V A
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V
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Can anyone tell me how to preload the free open beta? I have battlenet, and am clicking on the Overwatch icon, and apparently there should be a drop-down menu to select my region, but there's only links to buying it.
THE GAME WILL BE DEAD IN 5 MONTHS. SCREENCAP THIS.
>Characters talking to each other only happen if they are allies
>There's no trash talk between characters.
Hello, person who never played the game. I find your opinions incredibly valuable and will adjust my purchasing decision accordingly.
Also it's so fucking clearly going for a kiddy superhero cartoon theme that you may have brain damage if you can't see it, or if you think that makes it too safe and painfully inoffensive. Not everything needs to be edgy with all the characters at each others throats just because Zack Snyder thinks that's the future of heroes.
>>336491165
>A Blizzard game.
>Anything but a massive success.
Sure thing, kid.
I think it's the ultimates. The classes feel week until this "power spike" in which it's just an "I WIN" button on a CD. The power momentum has shifted.
Now it's sort of "Hope I can get the CP back once we all ult"
In TF2 the classes had a general strength the entire game that required you to pilot them to a certain degree to take care of their strength.
Overwatch allows you to stumble around until you can press Q and then feel like you did something cool.
>>336490870
>free kills on defense and guaranteed play of the game: the character
>>336491047
is a shit character
>an ex pro starcraft 2 player
holy fucking shit, could they autofellatio any harder?
>>336491052
you cant preload it
then watch the servers shit themselves on the first day or 2 because blizz is retarded
>>336491187
>TF2 is edgy
>>336491165
They will go f2p in 2 months anyway
>>336491239
hots was a massive success?
>>336483015
>That's an actual Anti-Mage line
Holy shit. Bonus points for the SJW's that'd complain about everything not having skill enough to last 10 minutes in DOTA2 so they can say WHATEVER
>try to sell as much as it can as a result.
>try to sell as much as it can as a result.
>try to sell as much as it can as a result.
>try to sell as much as it can as a result.
>try to sell as much as it can as a result.
wow, congratulations and that amazing breakthrough that no one else has ever thought of ever
>>336491297
>you cant preload it
Wew ok, I thought I read you could. Thanks
>>336491239
My fanatic friend got into closed beta. He played for few hours and stopped. He was shilling it to me for half a year.
>>336491348
It's a success in some way, since it still gets frequent content updates and tournaments.
>>336491239
>Anything but a massive success.
Take a look at the last Pay2Play Blizzard has made, which is Diablo 3.
>"0 Players are playing right now"
It has 20 players during peak times, shit is a ghostland.
>>336480343
3 words
>NO
>CHARACTER
>LIMITS
Team of MLG no-lives can just go all tracer and slaughter a team. Team of scubs vs bigger scrubs can have more than one Bastion, etc.
Nobalance
>>336490685
Kind of have to agree here....It makes complete sense to have a diverse cast. Its "international" same as xcom for example. It makes sense within the context. The opposite would be black guys in a european medival setting. Outside of very specific cases that would make no sense.
>>336475364
>There's no trash talk between characters. There isn't a single hint of black humour in this game
This is the only thing I really agree with.
I absolutely love the "globe-trotting superheroes" angle it's got going for it (the heroic music during PotG is pretty goddamn hype, even when it's just another Hanzo blind firing the ricochet arrow onto the objective), but it's still a competitive game.
I'd really like some more jokey/ribbing banter, even if it's silly stuff on the same level of Tracer offering Winston a banana.
>>336491261
I was excited for a game to come out that might rekindle the flame that SHADOWRUN attempted to light so long ago.
Sadly the characters feel too one dimensional for me. They all feel like PYRO from tf2.
W+M1
>>336491413
>You'll never see any character banter in Overwatch. Characters talking to each other only happen if they are allies, and it's very generic joke-y stuff for the most part. There's no comments on enemies you just killed. There's no trash talk between characters. There isn't a single hint of black humour in this game, and it really makes it feel so painfully sterile and boring.
Go play battleborn then you fucking cuck. Not everything has to be trash edgy millennial humor.
>>336491442
You can if you were eligible for the early start.
>>336491483
Oh yeah, I guess any game that makes money is good.
>>336480282
>outdated
The word is 'classic'
>>336491579
meant for
>>336475364
I am very fucking tired
>>336476259
>NO SWEARING?
well I've concluded that you're 14 years old and you think curse words suddenly make the game better.
As long as the porn keeps rolling in, I really don't give a shit about this game.
Uh duh?
This is from the same company that removed a "Sorry" emote from a virtual card game. Because people were getting offended by the word.
>>336480043
LoL is beyond help.
DOTA just needs IP bans/Region lock for ranked/normal games, and banlists/local IP filters for customs.
Done.
So your problem is that the game doesn't...swear enough? Or try to be gritty and edgy for the sake of it?
I mean if that's your only problem with it, it sounds like a fine game to me.
>>336491615
Being successful has nothing to do with being good.
>>336483435
>Implying the furfag menace isn't homo spiel
But yeah. >>336490571
Kids love the animals
>>336491664
You're also a fucking retard but you will never just admit it
WHY ARE THE MAPS SO FUCKING SMALL?
It's like fucking nuketown the game.
I knew anything activision/blizzard made would be casual shit.
>>336480407
In tf2 there is a long-time conflict between RED and BLU. The teams are actually teams and the characters are more like roles
>>336491701
Even Starcraft had Terrans saying words like 'shit.'
Get the fuck over yourself, you fucking fag.
>>336491348
>Constant stream of updates.
>Tournaments everywhere in collage settings, etc.
>Win a bunch of random fucking awards.
>Blizzard continues to make increasing profits every year.
Why don't you tell me?
>>336491459
>My friend
Don't lie anon.
>>336491496
>Take a look at the last Pay2Play Blizzard has made, which is Diablo 3.
You mean one of the fastest selling PC games of all time?
/v/'s "le ded game" meme doesn't actually work in reality. Especially if a game makes a company millions of dollars.
I realize everyone here is tsundere as fuck for Blizzard, but that doesn't mean their shit doesn't make a fuck-load of money, or isn't a success, no matter how much hyperbole you want to inject into your comments about it.
>have to play overwatch or CSGO
It hurts to be a fan of FPS
I am legitimately amazed that anyone on /v/ thinks Overwatch is going to flop. The worst thing is that the main reason people here think its going to flop is because it's too casual.
I was playing the beta the other day when I noticed my team was entirely female characters.
Not even one of those "MUH REPRESENTATION" types, but I thought that was kinda neat, considering the only character who feels at all pandering to the rainbow of inclusiveness is Heavy Tumblr Gal.
They made a roster the size of a fighting game for an FPS and everyone plays differently, has a unique backstory, and accomplishes their given task in a different way. There's guys and gals from all backgrounds and races, but it doesn't feel like forced diversity because it's a globally spanning GI Joe esque response team.
The diversity doesn't feel at all forced in the way of "we need to have a fat identifying demiplatonic girlboy in a hijaab who smashes the patriarchy", and I find that kinda refreshing nowadays.
It shows that you can be inclusive without straight-up pandering to the social justice crowd and still have your characters be memorable and likable. It's what more games that claim to want "diversity" should strive for, really.
>>336491831
>he posted incorrectly a few times
nigger i just woke up you fucking millenial faggot looking for nothing more than for a game to suck your cock because you pressed buttons
>omg I cant insult everyone through in game mechanics and the game isnt making me feel like im god because i just got a headshot
fucking go whine more you fucking trash faggot.
>>336491940
That doesn't make the game better in any way.
What does he say again?
>>336492000
Or because they are poorfags that hate fun
Why does the gameplay feel so weak?
>>336492069
fucking mumble dragon
>>336492004
I don't even play the game but seriously, memorable? likable? I don't think a single character design is memorable.
Off the top of my head they just have the cowboy, the ninja, the oriental archer dude, the knight, some fucking pig?, another aussie hillbilly, tumblr girl, ass girl, teleporting ass girl, turret robot, monk robot, call of duty guy, thicc asian girl, gorilla, and black man of music
how are any of those designs unique?
>>336492000
Exactly.
It can be a casual soulless popcorn shooter and still sell like mad. People aren´t realizing how calculated games like overwatch are.
![1074312-gamermacro_super[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/3DEB6Xs.gif "1074312-gamermacro_super[1].gif")
op, this is you
Can someone post some more Overwatch domination lines? I heard a few yesterday but can't remember them.
>>336492039
>having this kind of reaction
>this manner of speech
>not retarded
Sure thing pal.
>>336475364
>you will never be such a butthurt conservatard nationalist that you can't play a game because it is "too diverse"
Do you get triggered by the olympics as well?
>>336483173
That looks awful, its so god damn busy.
>>336492069
>Where do you keep your gold? It's not on your person!
>>336492049
No, it doesn't. No shit, Sherlock.
But it does provide a good indicator for the overall direction and tone of the game.
WHEN THE FUCK CAN US COMMONERS PLAY. LET ME IN RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>336492423
I found this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NTrwfySX_3bxr0Q_35zahf3OSD6htR4bIdcOCFYDgBo/edit#gid=1625744380
Tabs at the bottom for the heroes.
There's also this: http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-overwatch/
Mmm...
what?
>>336492603
Just under 3 hours left
>>336491945
>You mean one of the fastest selling PC games of all time?
How is that related to Diablo 3 being absolutely dead 4 months after release, until they sold RoP, at which point it died even faster 1 month after.
Picture related, from right now's peak time.
>>336478923
Idk how it going to be expected to be competitive without banning some characters from maps or something, the medic's ult is too strong for competitive play
>>336492269
In the TF2 sense, in that they're all immediately identifiable while playing.
They all have unique sillhouettes and there's never any question as to who you're fighting once you see them.
I guess identifiability is a better choice of words, they all stand out from one another.
Really they're memorable to me because I spent all day playing it yesterday.
>>336492428
>literally saying a game is shit because it doesn't have curse words and then complaining that someone else calls you a complete retard in a way you don't like.
Wow, it's like you are completely retarded. Like i said go play battleborn, it has everything you fucking want. That wasn't an insult to say go play battleborn, its a decent shit game that does everything you want. Thats the kind of humor you want so go play.
>>336478379
>4chan is suddenly against chanology
What the fuck happened? I thought we were legion?!
>>336492640
Yeah but after you whoop somebody in street fighter then your character will say something like "I fucked you just like I fucked your mother last night"
>>336492718
That's always been at zero. No idea how it works but I manage to find other people playing online despite it saying nobody is online.
>>336492004
If you think the character designs are good in overwatch you are literally retarded.
They are the most bland, generic, cliché crap ever. Every single line of dialogue is cringeworthy.
There is absolutely no subtlety, or nuance to them at all. They think their audience are morons, so they design characters with no personality, and the depth of a puddle of dog urine.
I like the gameplay, which is why the characters annoy me so much.
Compare them to the TF2 characters, the tf2 characters had tons of personality, great lines, lots of jokes, references, subtlety, They were amazing.
Overwatch characters dialogue literally sounds like it's pulled from a cartoon for 6 year olds.
>>336492718
>that 0
go to season, go to t1-10 adventure
gl
>>336475364
how do I into beta??
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