PC Buildan Thread.
Questions about something? Not sure about your parts?
Come on in!
I'll be using a trip so that others can identify my opinions/knowledge and correct me if I am wrong. As well as other Anons to identify who are they getting help with so that the support is consistent.
Alright son I'll give you some challenges i5 or i7 and why?
>>336461229
That depends entirely on the rest of your parts. Mostly the GPU.
You don't want to have a titan with a mid tier i5.
Otherwise you're going to get some bottleneck.
![amd-radeon-290x-fan-645x582[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZjpFYcv.jpg "amd-radeon-290x-fan-645x582[1].jpg")
I could use some ideas for keeping my GPU cool. I made the mistake of getting one with the crappy back vent and I don't have any extra mobo slots for one of those fan card things I've seen in stores.
I'm guessing the only solution is to take it apart and replace the cooling with something better but that feels risky.
>building your own PC when you can just buy an ASUS prebuilt with an i7 and 980 GTX for $1,000
I guess every penny counts when you're poor
i5 3570, is this the year to move up, or am i good for a bit longer?
>>336461176
So I'm a retard when it comes to picking parts. I'm wanting to build the best gaming pc possible but I have no clue where to start. I get stuck on the motherboard because I have no idea what fits what. Money isn't an issue for me what parts would I need for the absolute best gaming pc?
My GPU got a bad case of the coil whine, Cannot return, RMA postage costs $100. Are there any fixes to this besides the evil v-sync?
>>336461967
Money aside, it's good to build your own because you know where to look when something goes wrong.
Even if you don't care about paying stupid prices to get it fixed, you'd still have to wait days without your PC whilst store clerks leave it on a shelf, browse through all your personal stuff, install sponsorship software without your constant and eventually take the 5 minutes needed to actually fix the problem.
Having money doesn't excuse being a dumb shit.
>>336462404
https://pcpartpicker.com seems to be the go-to for slapping together a system and checking if it would work.
How much money do I need to build a good pc? I only plan to use my pc for mmos, gaming, and the internet at 1080p 144hz.
>>336462404
pcpartpicker.com/p/yz94yc
Might wanna buy some extra sata cables, swap 8.1 for win 10 if you want, OR wait for the new Nvidia 1080 card. THEN GET AN EVEN BETTER PC, *Drools*.
>>336461789
It's not that hard to replace the fans. If you can replace your cpu heatsink, you can do this one too.
>>336461967
I used to think the same but once you start building you have more control over your parts.
Ultimately if you really don't want to mess with parts a good prebuilt is a good option.
>>336462326
You're good for just a little bit longer, about a year I'd say.
>>336462404
That depends on how powerful you want it. Yes, money is not an issue, but performance is.
Do you want a gaming machine or an FBI server?
>>336463319
Somewhere between 700-100.
>>336463187
>>336463498
Thanks I'll check that site out
>>336463778
I want the best money can buy gaming pc like 4k 60fps gaming if that's even possible. Thing is I have no clue where to start or what to buy.
>>336463778
Yeah I was looking up a guide on replacing with with an 'Arctic's Accelero Xtreme III'. Looked a little finicky but something I could do.
>>336463498
I didn't notice you helped me build one thanks anon I was hoping to keep it under 3k too. Is that everything I need? If I order all that and put it together I'd be good to go? Will that run 60 fps at 4k or is that not possible with what's out right now?
>>336461229
depends on you and what you do
both are great for gaming
i7 is more for the person that will utilize his PC for more than just gaming more for those who are going to work using their PC than just use it for simple games and browsing even small time video editing.
many people will pull the trigger on a product that cost $100-$200 for 1-3 frames and this is a clear case of it.
>>336464331
>Will that run 60 fps at 4k
It all depends on what you play. What your settings are, there are no guarantees.
Just upgraded my power supply yesterday to a CX750M, I can finally use my R9 280.
should I just have two intake fans on the front and two exhaust fans on my N200 case?
>>336464609
So I guess the technology just isn't there to max out every game at 4k 60 fps? That should have no trouble running 1080p 60 fps maxed out games for the most part though right?
>>336464087
4K@60fps is kind of a beta thing right now. Or as others around here, a meme term.
The other Anon selected some parts for you.
And you can use this site to give you an idea of the cost you're looking for:
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
You'll basically have to go for the Monstruous category.
>>336463778
I just upgraded to a 960 (I know it's late, I'm poor) but my cpu is an old i5 750.
Right now I have an MSI indio motherboard with socket 1156 and 8gb DDR3 ram on 4 sticks. The motherboard has a single PCIe 1.0 slot.
My PSU is a corsair with 800w output, I bought it along with my old 570 5 years ago.
Using a 250gb ssd and 2 hdd of 1tb each.
For vidya, and basically just vidya, which cpu/mobo combo should I buy to replace my current one without going broke in the process?
>>336464173
PCBs are extremely durable. Not only that but they have some degree of flexibility before they can break. You should be fine.
>>336464926
>960
970*
>>336464771
That sounds about ideal.
2 front + 1 back is already optimal so having 2 and 2 should work the best.
>>336461229
i5 fags will scream there's no difference and games don't use hyperthreading, but the reality is, they do. They have been for a while now. If you can get an i7 on sale, do it.
Just recently my computer began to crash when I stressed the GPU (ran furmark, played a game). If my computer completely turns off then it's most likely an issue with my PSU and not my GPU right?
>>336464926
i5 6400 / 6500 / 6600 should work pretty well with your 970.
6500 is 200 dollars.
A good mobo would be anything with H170 and they're not that expensive.
You'd be looking around 250-300 depending on what you want to save on.
For example 6400 should go for 180. And a microATX would go for 60-80 dollars.
anyone know why gpu usage and framerate would both drop in a game? have a 970 and its performing severely under benchmarks
>>336465263
if the GPU/CPU crash you get a blue screen.
Going completely off can be anywhere from the PSU to any of the cables supplying power to the board. While cables are not necessarily a common issue it can happen.
Make sure everything goes completely off. If so, that's the PSU causing the problem.
>>336465479
What's your CPU and RAM?
>>336465479
3.5 TTTHHHRRRREEEEEE PPPOOOIIINNNTTTTT FFFFIIIIVVVVEEEE
>>336465653
cpu is an i5-6500
have ddr4 8gb single stick ram
>>336465982
I'm not running at 4k, its not that
>>336466040
Well that is weird. Your CPU matches your GPU. And you have good memory as well.
What manufacturer you bought that card from?
And the mobo while we're at it please.
Buy Polaris or wait for Vega because of HBM2?
>>336463853
To play them at ultra settings?
>>336466268
card is from EVGA
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-LGA1151-Intel-Motherboard-GA-H110M/dp/B0165YUDTM?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01
mobo
tried basically everything I can think of software related aside from a clean os reinstall
buying some new power cords for the card to see if that changes anything
>>336463319
800-1000 after sales
buy during sales never pay full price
Black friday is the best moment to buy parts but most of the sales during black friday are just the same sales from over the year
>>336466474
That's an H110 broski. That's why I always recommend H170 for non OC gaming.
Another issue could be your PSU, if it's trying to get more power than it can handle from your GPU.
>>336461967
A lot of people remember a time when taxes would fuck you right up on prebuilts.
>>336466343
These days I can't even tell what's what anymore. With some games calling their highest settings Epic or Ultra and stuff.
Let's assume you want the maximum possible settings.
The answer is yes.
Pseudo stable 60fps - 970
Stable 60 fps - 980
>>336466785
>>336466785
psu is a corsair cx430
what is wrong with the h110 compared to the h170?
>>336466341
Everyone is waiting on Pascal as well.
I'd say go for a low-mid tier Polaris and then swap it for a Vegas. You can always resell your other card.
If you can absolutely wait, then by all means do so.
>>336461176
How do I build a pc that will run bllodborne?
I got a fx-8350 and a gtx 770. Is the 970 a good upgrade?
>>336467157
>corsair cx430
430? I think I found the problem. I'd recommend to get a 550. The fact that is bronze means it consumes more power than the recommended. 80 doesn't mean it will work at 80% capacity. It's a common misconception.
For once, H110 can't do RST (rapid storage technology) which is useful if you want to speed up your HDD with a 64GB SSD.
I don't know the specifics by memory but it does have some data transfer limitations here and there.
Just bought an i7 6700K. Have a GTX 970. Need a new mobo. Have no idea which to get.
>>336467579
Just use this if you really want to see the game on your computer screen.
It works so well that it even looks like your actual computer is running the game, as in you can see pixels around textures and stuff.
Also, Bloodborne is really overrated around here. I played it and it's just a re skinned Dark Souls.
>>336467924
Having an K in the CPU means you have an OC processor.
Do you plan to overclock?
Yes? Get any board whose model has LGA 1151 Z170 on it.
No? Get an LGA 1151 H170
Recommended brands: AsRock, Asus, or Gigabyte
Do you plan on having a shit ton of PCIe slots used?
Yes? Get a full ATX
No? Get a micro ATX
>>336467632
Huh, the powerdraw of the computer looked low enough for the 430 on pcpartpicker
I guess I'll try another psu, wish I knew somebody with a gaming computer that I could swap a psu with to see if that actually is the issue.
what am I supposed to do with the old one, I still have the box but I doubt I'll be able to return it now since its been a couple months.
>>336468296
oh forgot to say that the the performance issue is only for certain games
Like I can run 99% usage on Rise of the Tomb Raider
but on Dark Souls 3 or Max Payne 3 its like the card throttles itself during any remotely heavy scene
>>336466680
So you're telling me I have to wait until November to every part to build a PC? That's a long time to be waiting for near the end of the year.
>>336467027
What if I want to play over 60 fps?
>>336468296
Let's see if I can explain why it's more than likely the problem.
You see, pcpartpicker is not necessarily always correct. There's a ton of variables here from the amount of fans you add to your GPU obviously.
Your GPU under load requires far more power.
With that in mind, the next variable is your rating, which is bronze 80.
For simplicity's sake, let's say you are using a 100 watt PSU.
If it's rated at 80% than you should only draw 80 watts, right? Wrong.
Your PSU will be draining 120 watts at full capacity, because it's only guaranteed to have a correct reading at 80%, or 80 watts in this case. so the other 20% will double.
This does not mean that at 79 watts you'll have 79 valid watts. The power will scale along with your raiting, so at 79 whats you should see about 105 or so.
Hope I didn't confused you more than how this shit actually is.
>>336468693
How many more fps are you looking for?
>>336468978
120 fps since 60 fps will soon become obsolete by gaming standards.
>>336468493
Some games are not well optimized and they might require more power from your GPU. Which in turn require a higher PSU.
At this point and by personal experience I'd definitely say it's the PSU.
>>336461229
Depends on your budget too. It's best to not cheap out on the CPU and buy an i7 or maybe even wait for Broadwell-E, but the i5 is still a decent choice.
>>336461229
i7 for 3D and video rendering not worth investing in one if you are going to game and browse only.
>>336469365
Then the original estimate no longer applies.
700-1000 is for 1080p @ 60fps
1500-2000 is for 1080p @ 100+ fps
I'm looking to get a new build started right now, picking up a Seasonic G550 Gold and an R9 380 and I'm wondering if 550w is enough for the GPU plus an i7 in an H170 build with the basics (hdd, ram, cd drive, etc.)?
>>336469860
That should be enough + Gold rating helps.
You're good to go.
>>336470052
Great thanks!
Anyone got good motherboard recommendations?
>>336470369
I usually go with Asus after I got recommended by my neighbor who's a retired computer engineer and they've never let me down. Very good performance and very sleek BIOS that works well for controlling temps and overclocking.
When are new intel cpus?
>>336470369
Depends on your setup.
As for brands, I recommend Asus, Gigabyte, or AsRock.
That order.
>>336470552
Late 2016 according to google.
>>336470526
I run with an Asus. It's a shitty one, I can't remember what specific one it is, all I know is that it's shit.
>>336470638
What are the problems you're having with it?
>>336470369
What kind of CPU were you looking to pair with it, that's usually the first determiner.
>>336470638
What's the model?
>>336470740
Not really strong enough for VR, GTA V or other recent games. I was able to run Phantom Pain on high. But then agian that shits hella optimized. Games like GTA V and Tower Unite fuck my shit up.
>>336470867
Post your build.
>>336470838
Lol you responded to both my posts.
Anyway, I just want something that can run with my 2 core processor until I upgrade and be able to run at least GTA V and most source games. I get about 50 frames in CSGO despite my GPU being strong enough for it.
>>336470867
Hold on, are we talking motherboards or gpus here?
Your mobo has little to do with game performance.
>>336471019
>Anyway, I just want something that can run with my 2 core processor
There's your likely problem, most new AAA games require 4 physical cores for best performance and are quite CPU intensive.
>>336471018
At work, can't sorry.
>>336471052
Mine holds shit back a lot on games.
I need to upgrade my piece of shit soon.
But ill do it part by part. GPU or CPU first?
>>336471116
Yeah like the other Anon said, posting your setup could probably tell us what's wrong with it.
If it's having problems running games I hardly say it's the mobo.
Unless it's an old generation running a new gen gpu.
As in, not having PCIe.
>>336464948
It's not so much fear of manhandling it but fucking it up in a way that blows a component months later.
I was watching a installation vid for the same type of card and one of the chips could only be half covered with a heatsink.
>>336467157
Speaking of bronze psus, is the corsair 750m thing that I got from best buy.
How is that compared to other psus?
>>336471304
You are going to bottleneck it by doing so. But the safest way is to go CPU first.
That way you won't lose GPU performance.
If you go GPU first, your GPU won't use its full potential.
>>336464786
It's there but it means you're gonna have to shell out closer to 5000 on the computer itself
>>336471713
You're paying a little too much if that price on the website is accurate. Specially for a bronze rated PSU.
Normally EVGA produces great results and is priced at reasonable prices.
>>336471730
>>336471304
With that said - upgrading your GPU first will give you a much bigger boost in performance, than what upgrading your CPU will do, so thats what you should start with.
Your build 100%
Your build with a new bottlenecked GPU 140%
Your build with a new CPU but old GPU 110%
Your build with new CPU+GPU 160%
Kind of like that.
>>336472261
Yeah, I know I paid far too much. Was an emergency situation thinking the psu was the problem, it wasnt.
What is odd to me is that my computer will refuse to post if I have a keyboard plugged in.
I think there are more underlying problems than I realize.
My gpu just died, i think, artifacts, driver crashes, bsods, I don't recall what mobo I got, but it was an axtu of some sort.
I'm unfortunately getting it checked at a pc shop, for free thankfully but man, you have any ideas here?
>>336461967
>buying shitty parts for the same price of good parts
I guess every dumb decision counts when you're retarded
What's the weakest link here? recently upgraded the ram but haven't noticed a great difference from 4GB.
I'm the guy with the shitty GPU cooling, mind. >>336461789
>>336465581
Not necessarily.
I just had to replace my mobo as my rig kept crashing and then stopped turning on altogether.
New mobo bought and new CPU too as 1155 socket no longer supported, solved the issue.
>>336472765
Brand on the mobo please?
GPU while we're at it.
And tell me a little bit more about the "original" problem.
Was it just the keyboard thing?
>>336473124
Yeah, just the keyboard thing, had a led post code on the box, I think Asus was the brand, had a v8 or v5 black heatsink on the mobo. Two USB 3.0 slots, etc etc.
Gpu was msi 560ti
What happened is I would have my kb plugged in and it would get to a b4 or b6 post code and hang. UnpluggING and restarting would let it post normally, plugging in again wored fine after post.
>>336473027
Is that card idling at 77?
>>336473039
He is right, forgot to take that into consideration.
Here is my PC. 4690k @4.2 ghz and a R9 290X and 16 gb ram.
Shame i mostly spend my time surfing the internet, playing so little games nowdays. Might as well replace it with a ok laptop. The reason for those cable ties is that otherwise my gpu will make a rattling noise over a certain fan speed.
>>336473449
Yup. When I play a game the fans go nuts and it can hang a bit, which I assume if it trying to keep cool.
>>336473428
Was the keyboard USB? Sounds like a mobo problem.
>>336461229
Get an i5 and spend the difference getting a better GPU. If you're already getting a 980ti and have the budget then sure, spring for the i7.
>>336474015
Yeah, my goal is a new mobo
>>336473953
Then your weakest link is your cooling.
A customer build with a 960 idles at 40, and during load at 71.
No liquid cooling either.
>fell for the AyyMD memes
Now I'm bulding a Skylake meme but it will use a Polaris GPU.
>>336473883
Yeah when you need those cables for rattling problems it's time to change.
I recommend dell laptops if you're wondering.
>>336474425
Outstanding CPU temp. Are you liquid cooling?
And what's wrong with your processor/mobo?
>>336474425
>12c
damn
Here's mine
>>336474732
It only happens on the gpu above 43 percent, it is a issue that happened with earlier versions of those coolers. So you could either fix it by taking the fan off, placing rubber between the fan and the plastic or doing what i did. So nothing is wrong with the GPU itself.
>>336474203
Theory: I think you bios was acting up to the keyboard which is why it was having trouble.
Have you tried updating bios or you have latest?
If you update and it goes bad then by all means it was the mobo.
>>336461967
i'm sure that has a quality motherboard, ram, hard drive and power supply.
>>336474954
Ah so it was an assembly problem. Yeah when some components are not well made you get these kind of problems.
>>336474873
>>336474954
>Actually believing fucking speccy for temps when they're that retarded
Come on.
>>336475186
It's the best cooler for that card, as well as the 390 gpus too. Just unfortunate i got one of the coolers that had that issue. But it's not a big deal since it could be fixed so easy. Getting a new gpu though when the new ones release sometime this summer hopefully. PSU was recently upgraded to a RM850X so at least im ready.
>>336475148
>Quality ram
You can buy any ram at any price and it will perform just the same on the same data range.
>>336475267
I am 100% sure that those temps are not accurate. But it does give you an idea of how hot it is. Even at 10+- error margin.
>>336475010
Had the latest as far as I was aware.
My next hope is that the HDD isn't fucked, hopefully the guys I dropped my computer off at know what the fuck they are doing and don't fuck me over.
Was hoping you can help me out, opee. I have I-5 4690k and an Asus 970 with 8 gb ddr3 ram. I was looking to upgrade to 1440p IPS monitor in a couple of months, thus I was wondering what else will I need to upgrade aside from the GPU? Looking at both 980ti and fury-x and having a hard time deciding as well.
>>336475426
>I am 100% sure that those temps are not accurate. But it does give you an idea of how hot it is. Even at 10+- error margin.
No it does not. It's not an error margin when they're that retarded, they're completely wrong if they're that off-base. It's either a few degrees off, or nobody knows how much, probably 100.
>>336475560
So if speccy tells me my CPU is at 34C or GPU at 43 that means that's completely wrong and CPU might actually be at 60c?
As far as computer parts go, I keep hearing Corsair is a good brand for most, if not all, computer parts they make.
Is that true, or would I be better off going with another brand? Or will it even matter at all?
>>336475619
No, not necessarily. 34°C for CPU and 43°C for GPU is actually pretty achievable even with "normal" CPU coolers. If you know it should be cooking in there, then you can assume they're completely wrong if they report such a low number.
>>336475463
Wish I could help you. Specific problems like this are harder to diagnose from text alone.
And yeah, be careful, in the IT World you're an idiot to them and they will charge you extra for shit you don't need or they didn't do.
>>336461176
Those two tubes are similar the the two tubes that are in my imaginary car I'm drawing.
>>336475832
Right. My CPU is clocked to 4.2ghz so depending on the game it might hit as high as 64-65 though that's only for some seconds usually. I find myself in most games being around at 55-58C.
>>336475560
It's no speccy's problem though. That depends on the thermocouple used on your mobo.
It's not like the software alone is measuring temps.
>>336475815
Short answer: No, it does not matter at all.
It's mostly about personal preference.
But I can vouch for them and agree that they make some of the best cases around.
>>336476042
>It's no speccy's problem though.
Eh, it pretty much is in those situations. It's Speccy reading the data incorrectly.
>That depends on the thermocouple used on your mobo.
I thought it was the one in your CPU.
>It's not like the software alone is measuring temps.
Well no, but it's not like the sensor is incorrectly sending data out. It's sending it out correctly according to the specs it's configured to. Assuming it's not some Chinese shit that can't even do that of course.
>>336475867
They tell me their diagnostic is "Free" so we will see.
If you know of this issue, let me know. Whenever I had Windows Update service running, it would eat up 25% of my CPU and cause "Hiccups" for a good 30 min to an hour on a clean boot. Hiccups meaning whenever I would move my mouse, it would freeze for a moment before working for another second or so and freeze again.
Anyways, thanks for the help, appreciated since it confirmed what I already knew: I'm going to need to spend 800 on a new build.
>>336475875
That looks pretty nice.
>>336476216
How can it read data incorrectly if it's displaying the exact same number your mobo is reporting?
Well obviously if we go part by part each one has a thermocouple obviously.
Thermocouples do have a margin of error, depending on what type you're using.
>>336476719
>How can it read data incorrectly if it's displaying the exact same number your mobo is reporting?
It doesn't display the exact same number. A mobo doesn't say "16°C", first of all it says it in bits and shit which can be converted wrong, and there are a lot more coding conventions that could be wrong. It could also report it in Fahrenheit or something stupid. It could also not use 0 as 0, and instead counting from another number. There are a lot of things that could be interpreted wrong. Also, it seems that Speccy does not read it directly from the mobo anyway, there are other layers that are between that which can also make mistakes.
Rest seems irrelevant to respond to.
>>336461176
I'm a dumbass with 2 grand for computar. What should I use?
>>336477262
Titan
>>336477008
I am not aware of this issue so I am going to do some research before spreading wrong information.
Not saying you are wrong. I just want to give margin errors and stuff if they indeed exist.
I also don't want other Anons to panic thinking their reading is wrong.
>>336477886
Dude, it's pretty common knowledge that temp programs can give incredibly off readings, speccy included. I can't believe you don't know about something so simple.
>>336477262
i7 skylake K series, 980ti, Z170-A Asus or better, liquid cooling, 256GB SSD along with standard HDD
>>336477886
>Titan
Fuck, that's some terrible advice. There are way better GPUs available.
I had a HD7870 that broke a couple weeks ago, the guy that took a look at it said it probably unweld because of temperature
Can it be fix? What would be a good replacement? Was thinking GTX970 or R9380
I have an fx6300 and a good mobo
>>336478000
I worked with thermocuoples before so I am well aware of that.
But you're acting as if it's a big deal and the readings are way off.
> incredibly off readings
See what I mean?
The guy that had 12C I asked if he was using liquid cooling. Obviously if he isn't then his readings are wrong.
It's not about the temp alone but loads and components as well.
And again, it's there to give you an idea. Not everyone has a laser thermometer lying around.
I'm so tired of my old, shitty, loud PC, but I'm too afraid to fuck up, and I've got no friends to help with that shit. Is there like a definitive video (written articles are fucking useless) that covers PC building, from parts-picking to actually slapping them together?
>>336461176
>Those fuckhuge ribbon cables connecting the graphic card to the motherboard
Does that really work properly? Looks like it should shit up the signals real good. "You approach your cellphone and the PC stops working" kind of shit.
>>336478432
>>336478000
But for fuck sake, speccy is accurate enough. Who cares if the temperatures at most is like 1 degree off.
>>336478204
>I'm a dumbass with 2 grand for computar. What should I use?
>I'm a dumbass
I thought you were being serious.
>>336461789
>one with the crappy back vent
What's that?
>>336478432
>I worked with thermocuoples before so I am well aware of that.
Then why even argue against it?
>and the readings are way off.
Fuck, are you aware of it or not? This isn't an issue with thermocouples specifically, it's just mobo talking to software. And I'm not acting like it's a big deal.
>See what I mean?
No, because that's just a fact that it can happen.
>The guy that had 12C I asked if he was using liquid cooling. Obviously if he isn't then his readings are wrong.
Liquid cooling isn't necessarily better either. Judging by the CPU and other specs, I doubt that it had a custom liquid cooling setup anyway. It requires a fucking lot to get it below room temperature man.
>It's not about the temp alone but loads and components as well.
What the fuck even?
Also, your reddit formatting is pretty fucking annoying.
>>336478730
That's not what this is about. It's probably like 50 degrees off, or anywhere between 0 and 50. Which makes it pretty useless.
>>336478730
Thank you, you resumed my point very well.
>>336478875
> And I'm not acting like it's a big deal.
> It's probably like 50 degrees off
You're right, it's a huge deal, actually.
Sorry for being rude but I am going to have to stop responding to you.
>>336478715
You won't find a super specific video.
You're going to have to look at least at 4-5 videos and then doing some research yourself.
I can help you if you get lost along the way.
>>336478824
Both air intake and exhaust are on the back plate. The fan just cycles air through the card's heatsinks. Needless to say, it's a shitty system.
>>336461967
>i7 and 980 for $1k
Prove it, then.
i7-4790K and R9 390 friend here
Just a few questions after building my first PC:
>I have 8gb RAM, do I really need more?
>I have two seperate 1TB hard drives, do I need an SSD?
>How do I connect two monitors to the R9 390 if there's only one HDMI port?
I'm not sure if my h100i isn't working properly, or it's just getting old.
My 4770k at stock was hitting 58c in overwatch. That's nuts to me. I've changed the fans, and everything. It's about 3 years old. Does the cooling degrade as time goes on?
Reply to this post if you fell for the nvidia meme too
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>>336479541
>I have 8gb RAM, do I really need more?
Not yet
>I have two seperate 1TB hard drives, do I need an SSD?
I couldn't bear having my OS on an HDD anymore. Everything is so much faster on an SSD and they're relatively cheap nowadays, just get a 128GB or something and install windows on it. You'll never go back.
>How do I connect two monitors to the R9 390 if there's only one HDMI port?
Isn't there an other port as well? DVI or something?
>>336479541
- No, not really
- You can get an SSD to install the OS in it or get an SSD in raid for RST which helps speed up the system (in case you don't want to do a fresh OS install)
- You can't. You have to use the other ports. It has 2 DVI so go for that, get an HDMI to DVI if necessary. Your sound comes out better from the audio port anyways.
![16-gb-ram[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ekckvrC.jpg "16-gb-ram[1].jpg")
>2016
>he STILL only has 8gb of ram
easiest way to spot a pleb
>>336479541
No
Yes
DVI to HDMI cable
>>336479585
In a way, yes. If the dust build up is high, it has impact on the air flow.
If you have a non OC gaming PC definitely go for an aftermarket cooler.
>>336479720
>15 15 15 35
is this bait?
>>336479713
Nvidia really fucked up huh? Hopefully they can pay off enough developers to ruin any advantage AMD get from dx12.
>>336479991
I could upgrade to 16GB RAM for like 30 euros, not really something to feel smug about. 8GB is just enough for the time being.
>>336480173
What's the problem with that?
>>336480262
i-i could do it, i j-just choose not to
poorfags ladies and gentlemen
>>336478723
If you check the original build log for that one, the builder did have problems with that originally till he ponied up for shielded cables.
>all this sperging over the fact that AMD cpu temps are read inaccurately until it starts to go over 40*c
>>336480406
>literally the cheapest component of a pc
>claiming superiority
>>336480262
casual. its not called 2016gb for nothing
>>336480453
I'm surprised that this was enough given the frequencies involved but good for him I guess. It does look pretty good.
>>336480406
Is your life such a failure that you try to feel superior because you have 30euros worth of RAM over me while at the same time you use a CPU from 2012 @1.9GHz?
>>336479991
Placebo effect. Look it up.
>>336479117
>> And I'm not acting like it's a big deal.
>
>> It's probably like 50 degrees off
>
>You're right, it's a huge deal, actually.
I thought that was about something else, but fair enough.
>>Sorry for being rude but I am going to have to stop responding to you.
Realized you were totally wrong I hope. Can't believe that you made a fucking thread for feedback when you don't even know basic shit like this. Smells like fucking reddit in here for real.
>>336481053
>>336481037
>>336480734
>they unironically only have 8 gb of ram
AHAHAHAHA YOU FUCKING PLEBS SORT YOUR LIVES OUT
>>336481283
32GB actually. And a better processor, unlike yours.
>>336481275
im not claiming it, i have it. i can tell you would give your left nut for an extra 8gb but you cant have it. maybe youll be able to afford it in 2030 or something
>>336481053
Moar ram is not placebo if you actually fill it.
>>336461229
Too add to this. As some one that uses his gaming pc for work which is the better i7, if money isn't an issue?
>>336482176
Work can mean a million different things - be specific on the software you use.
>>336482354
My bad, Adobe Premier Pro, Photoshop, Sony Vegas, are the programs we mostly use.
>>336481975
Unless you're running like 20 programs at a time I highly doubt it.
>>336461229
>>336465252
If you can afford the i7 without compromising on the gpu, get the i7
More and more games are utilizing the cpu now, and that will only increase with DX12
>>336482947
I7 would give you a boost in performance for those programs
>>336482947
If you're doing a lot of editing with those programs, X99 would be the way to go since it's mean for productivity that needs lots of horsepower
Not to mention Broadwell E is launching soon probably this month
Anyone ever have issues weigh the fan that came with a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO?
This fucker right here, since day 1 when I finished my build and pressed the power button would make an awful vibrating noise. When I would the fan flat while on, the noise stopped. As soon as I returned it to a vertical position as how it's attached to the heat sink and it immediately starts making the noise. Only got worse over time, for a while I just loosened the clips and had it at a 90 degree angle and that worked but eventually a clip broke and so I took it out all together.
I guess I just got unlucky because when I built a friends PC a month back his didn't have this issue.
I think 3 other fans in my PC but none actually attached to the heat sink, that should be adequate right? I'll replace the EVO's fan eventually.
Can I power on my pc with no ram? My new case came with a pwm hub so that all the fans can run off the cpu fan header, I just want to make sure I have all of them connected correctly and my sticks don't arrive till Friday.
650 watt power supply enough for a 980+6600k?
Pcpartpicker says my total pull will only be in the high 300s, but the manual from the gpu says 600.
Anyone after a new GPU, really advise getting the Nitro R9 390. Absolute beast of a card.
>>336484201
Psst, it comes with though sound dampeners to fit over the screw heads expllicitly to tackle vibrations.
>>336461176
That's not how you spell building you know lad
Go and give your head a wobble
I built my computer around six years ago. Not counting hard drives, I've only made one upgrade to it since I've first built it (changed the CPU when i was on sale for $50 at a Micro Center). I still love it, but it's starting to show its age, but I don't know how to proceed.
Would a video card upgrade be enough? I've used the XFX 5870 for the last six years and it's held up well. I've seen a debate between the 390 and 970. Any good reason why I should consider one over the other? Is there anything else I should consider changing, as in, am I better off building a new computer with new parts or can I manage with what I have which is something I would like to do if possible?
>>336484201
The 212 isn't heavy so weight shouldn't be an issue. The fan is kind of shitty so just get a better aftermarket one and slap it on
>>336484230
>Can I power on my pc with no ram?
no
>>336484396
>650 watt power supply enough for a 980+6600k?
Yes plenty. But Nvidia is announcing Pascal on Friday so you might want to wait
>>336484230
Yeah you can but you won't get the system running.
So my atx mobo from gigabyte is missing like, all of the stand off holes on the upper right half, should I be concerned?
>>336484642
That's fine, Just don't want to find out I have the cpu fan or something plugged in wrong and not find out about it till I'm installing my os or something.
>>336484230
If you can plug the hub into your psu you can jumper the mobo connection with a paperclip and power up anything connected to the psu.
>>336461967
>prebuilt
You need to be 18+ to post here.
>>336484613
Already got the card man, they kept delaying the damn thing to much for me. Plus While my monitor is great, it's not 4k and only 124hrz.
>>336483885
>>336484158
Thank you. How does the X99 hold up for gaming, I'm guessing it does well enough. Thanks again. I'm pretty out of the loop when it comes to pc hardware.
>>336484651
Wat, post pic.
>>336483501
>third gen vs sixth gen
>>336485906
Console fag detected. Also /g/ hates gaming based discussion, probably because their linux boxes can't run them.
>>336485737
Pick related, the mobo is advertised as atx, my case is atx, but only the middle most hole on the right half line up. Leaving the upper right corner free floating
>>336485714
Does just fine in gaming
>>336486116
That's some pretty weird shit.
Shouldn't be any problem though.
>>336486116
Sounds like you don't have it aligned properly
>>336483501
>A mid range 3 year old CPU performs worse in a game than a current-gen high range CPU in a game widely known to be CPU-intensive
>>336485762
>>336486314
>>336486276
All the other ones align properly, I/Olined up fine, pcies lined up with the slots, Cutout under the cpu socket is dead center. It's just those two right holes that don't line up with any of the stand offs.
>tfw fx6300 and gtx 760
is there anyway to upgrade this shit or should i just make a new build a few years down the line
Which card do I get for stable 60 FPS and 1440p for modern games at high-max settings?
>>336487143
the new gtx 1080 that's coming out soon will probably set you up for this for at least until the end of the decade
This is me. I'm thinking of upgrading CPU and motherboard. Should I?
Also, is there a way to migrate SSD? Reinstalling every program and stuff would be a hassle, but I want to get a bigger one.
>>336487143
Fury X or 980Ti if you don't want to wait, though some games don't get 60fps even with those I think.
>>336487143
I'm currently achieving that with two 7970's, so anything better than that I would suppose.
>>336487246
>This is me. I'm thinking of upgrading CPU and motherboard. Should I?
You're more likely to get bottlenecked by your GPU. And not only because of the 3.5 meme.
INTEL Core i3 3220 3,3GHz, 3MB, socket 1155, BOX
MSI H61M-P31 (G3)/ IntelH61/ LGA1155/ DDR3 1333MHz/ mATX
2 x 4GB TEAM DDR3 600MHz Elite (11-11-11-28)
GeForce GTX650 1GB DDR5/DVI/ HDMI
WD 1TB HDD SATA600/ Internal 3,5"/ 7200RPM/ 64MB
CHIEFTEC GPA-400S 400W, akt. PFC, 12cm fan
Is it worth buy upgrading this PC or should I just buy a PS4?
>>336487601
Uhhhh, neither? Just get a new compy mate.
>>336487143
I love these.
>>336486408
>Oh look, GTA V is being used as the example again
Thanks for proving half my point, at least.
>>336487868
>>336487986
That half is pretty stupid though. People buy more expensive CPUs to be able to play those kind of games comfortably. It's stupid to benchmark CPUs when there's literally no difference.
>>336487749
Literally no games I want to play that would require anything better than my current PC. Looks like PS4 it will be then.
Thanks for your answer
>>336488316
>ps4
OH NO!
Welp, that's $500 down the drain.
>>336488316
>should I upgrade my PC
>I don't need an upgrade
Why did you even fucking ask?
>>336489325
Well, what is the point for upgrading or buying new PC when PS4 gets literally everything I want to play? I just thought that I could upgrade my PC for cheaper price than PS4 and I'd buy PS4 at the end of life of console.
This is the best I could afford in my 3rd world shit hole while a reasonable price, most GPU are fucking overpriced here,a 970 cost around 470 American shekels.
I'm saving money to get better parts at the end of the year, what should I upgrade first? the mobo,GPU,CPU etc
>>336489815
Once again, what is the point of asking if you already knew the answer.
Also, you totally could upgrade your PC for less than a PS4?
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT FROM US.
>>336489815
>Well, what is the point for upgrading or buying new PC when PS4 gets literally everything I want to play?
Better framerate. Better resolution. More controller support. Better multitasking. Cheaper games.
>>336490026
>>336487749 told me I shouldn't upgrade, so I am not doing that.
>>336490146
>already playing on lower graphical quality than PS4
>playing literally everything with gamepad (even fucking The Secret World)
>implying I won't keep my PC
>implying I have to buy games for a full price
>>336490215
He was kinda telling you to upgrade, You just don't have much that's worth keeping, your PC is pretty toaster-tastic. like you MIGHT be able to reuse the motherboard and RAM, but your GPU and CPU are both pretty trash at this point. They have DDR4 RAM now, so if you want DDR4 RAM you also have to upgrade the Mobo and RAM, so really at that point all your keeping is the case.
>>336490484
You asked why upgrade, I gave you reasons. Don't apply them to your shitty PC. Those reasons are valid.
>>336490484
>Why should I upgrade
>so you can do these things
>but my computer sucks
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE UPGRADING YOU DENSE FAGGOT
You might as well just get the ps4 if you're this retarded, they are ultimately retard proof computers anyways.
>>336473027
I hope you are still here anon, open that shit and clean the dust men,you don't need new cooler system unless your fans don't work
>>336487465
>don't want to wait
I'm fine with waiting, what's coming?
>>336491565
Polaris from AMD which sounds terrific, and 1070/1080 from Nvidia which also sounds great.
So it's probably better to wait if you can.
I just bought SABERTOOTH Z170 S Im trying to hook up the STAT ports to my two old hard drives but im afraid that it i could fuck the bios or something if it chooses to prioritize the hard drive that doens't have the the OS. Do I need to worry?
>>336489839
You need to simultaneously update your mobo/cpu if you plan on upgrading to a newer generation.
>>336491902
Thanks.
>>336487143
AMD R9 390 is what I'm using and so far I've been able to run EVERYTHING I've played at max settings and 2560X1440p resolution with 60 fps or more in nearly every circumstance.
>>336487465
What? I have a 960 and it can run the new tomb raider and overwatch at 60fps on max settings.
TR sometimes drops to 50 but that's about it.
Surely those cards can handle the 60.
Cases don't generally go obsolete, right? I've had this thing since December while I save up dosh.
>>336487143
>1440p
There's that meme again
>>336492374
The case is something you should spend good money on if you plan on upgrading because it will never become obsolete. Also the power supply.
>>336461176
There are zeroes in my RAM timings.
I fucked up didn't I?
>>336461434
That's so gayward thinking. Most games dont really use CPU and those that do most definitely dont need an I7. The difference in money from i5 to i7 or even an am3+ could be well worth it for an H2O All in one cooler or some rad air cooling.
If money is no concern then why not donate money to make quantum computers for gaming <3
Otherwise youre a faggot who knows nothing of actual computers and how they work.....not even how to find an actual bottleneck.
>>336492424
>t. blind AnonIf I end up not caring about it I can always just play at 1080 and enjoy the sweet FPS boost.
>>336492320
I'm talking about the occasional game that isn't optimized very well, or that is particularly demanding. I don't think GTAV runs at 60 on max or high settings on that resolution.
>>336492052
So If I buy a 970 is going to bottleneck with that build? I was thinking of buying a 970+ PSU and next year upgrade the mobo/cpu
>>336492424
I've got a 1440p IPS 144hz monitor and couldn't be happier.
I've had this for about 3 years and I'm thinking about upgrading my 7950 to a Fury X and getting a 1000w PSU, is there anything else that'd be worth replacing at the same time?
>>336492904
No it won't. Your cpu is fine so it should match the card well.
I mentioned it because some Anons have upgraded their CPUs only to find out they don't match their mobo.
>>336493012
>1000W PSU
Sounds like total overkill. Whats your current PSU?
>>336493012
>9-9-9-24
>>336492498
>Also the power supply.
Jonnyguru's "death of a gutless wonder" articles are magical. Especially considering how many people cheap out on a psu without knowing how vitally important it is.
I'm waiting for my 960 to show up
>>336493301
It's also relatively cheap so why not.
>have
i5 2500k @ 3.30ghz
asus P8Z77I Deluxe
>want
r9 390
I dont know if Ill get bottleneck or not. I also need to find a good low-profile cooler for the i5 so i can crank up the clock
What GPU to get? Or better - should I get a GPU right now or WAIT for Polaris/Pascal thing?
>>336493390
>960
you might as well buy AMD if you're getting an Nvidia card at 970 or under. More bang for your buck.
>>336493207
850w, a bronze Corsair. I'm mainly considering since I've had some problems with my rig basically going to sleep and forcing me to do a hard restart. Which apparently could be due to the PSU.
>>336493238que
>>336492604
They do, though. You'd know if you monitored usage. Go play division and tell me where your bottleneck is. 20$ says it's your cpu if you're rocking a 970+. Go play a game whole hosting a server, or stream a game without a dedicated capture card. Not to mention if you're doing any kind of encoding. Let me guess, you're playing at 1080,60fps?
>>336493123
Ohh yes I know I need a new mobo if I buy a new gen CPU
