Fallout New Vegas
Dev: Obsidian
>makes dozens of concrete references to fallout 3 events
>sticks true to the lore set up by previous games
>Dev respects fan base and takes criticism gracefully
Fallout 4
Dev: Bethesda
>makes 2 concrete references to NV events
>makes up lore about shit that never happened and makes up own time line for past events.
>Dev mocks fan base when they are called out on messing up
Yet people still defend Bethesda.
>>336459625
>It's another obsidiot episode
Shit devs attract a shit fanbase
It's fitting
>>336459625
Bethesda knows not to mention a better game in it own shitty one.
It gets you thinking "why am I not playing new Vegas instead of this shit"
>>336459625
Anybody got that NV roll pic? I need some inspiration for my next run and I'm all out of ideas.
Fallout 3 is better than New,Vegas retard. We already settled this.
>>336460042
That's why fallout 4 referenced fallout 3 a lot. They're reminding you how shit 3 was in comparison to 4
>>336459625
This is what bothered me about 4. Even if New Vegas events hadn't happened yet, the place still exists and people loved New Vegas..
Bethesda are just trying to get Fallout 4 out the way so they can start with Elder Scrolls. It's so painfully obvious they don't care for Fallout now. Todd and that Twitter DCunt are so bitter people enjoyed NV more.
>>336460132
>we
>>336460194
3 outsold NV, so they couldn't care less if Obsidian fanboys enjoyed NV more you fucking retard.
>>336460294
recent cod games outsell the first ones.
>tfw we will never get another Obsidian Fallout game again.
They put out one of the best RPGs in years with only a year of development. How can they be so based?
>>336459625
NV > 4
That's just how it will always be
>>336459625
Also how they handled their DLC
Obsidians DLC was released in a good pace. Not all at once making an obvious cash grab like Bethesda
look at that happy smile
>>336459625
Mistook it for this when I looked at the thumbnail.
>>336460794
seriously how could a company dun goof so badly with DLC that was decent in 3 and NV..
what the fuck is Todd Howard actually doing? 4 was already missing content so obviously ripped from the game, and now they're just releasing shittily written boring Packs.
>>336459625
What were the NV references i never noticed any
>>336460863
He doesn't look human.
>>336460964
That made you play NV longer. After you beat one DLC you can move on for a month or two with another game and OH LOOK another DLC 3 months later, I think I'll buy it and play it.
Yeah Bethesda fucked it up.
>>336460184
I think they just want to establish as little connections to the rest of the series as possible.Fallout is their franchise now, 3 and 4 are the only things Bethesda wants you to ever aknowledge.
>>336461087
The only references were in Nick valentine's journal logs briefly mentioning the NC and conflict out west.
Not even spoken dialogue so I'm not surprised you missed it. So many people did
>>336461118
>>336461274
Its like he got surgery to look like the vault boy but it went horribly wrong.
>>336461118
He looks like 'The Twitch' event that was described in Fallout 4, when the synths first attacked Diamond City.
>>336460053
Try /vg/
>
I know what your talking about but I don't have it.
One thing every fan agrees is that the Power Armor modification was one of the best choices. I mean, it was just "lol late-game armor me is strong lol" when it had such story significance. It now justifies not breaking your neck when you wear the bulletproof helmet without armor. And not only that, but it's actually a badass thing for once. Although making deathclaws instakill un-power-armored people including you is just overkill
>>336461368
i laughed
>>336461424
That's the only thing I liked about fallout 4.
Fucking robot people are canon in Fallout now. I could believe it if they came from Big MT but instead they came from the East Coast which is just the stone age with laser guns.
>>336461274
This nigger is trying to make Bethesda Game Studios into the next Activision and is fucking failing.
Who are the big boys at Zenimax? Why don't they just fire Todd and this guy.
Imagine if they hired Chris Avellone and those other NV big boys and merged Obsidian with Bethesda?
>>336461424
Power Armour in 4 was cool.
But then there's 50000000 fusion cores you can find within an hour of playing, and by that time you've already found 500000 sets of Power Armour.
Also they let us walk under water with them, but there's literally fuck all in water. Not even some radiated sea monsters.
Lazy fucking cunnnntsssss
>>336461526
this made me hate fallout now.
the whole thing of surviving in a wasteland was cool, the 50s vibe of kitchen robots was believable and atmospheric still.
then you have all this bullshit synth stuff, it was hyped in fallout 3 and interesting with that rivet city quest (which was better than the whole 4 story) then you get to the institute and it's some low budget tiny factory. atleast go all fucking out with your shitty updated gamebryo engine and make it futuristic.
>>336461709
The idea of fusion cores was stupid considering Power Armor is supposed to be able to run on one core for 300 years. They could have implemented some other reason for you to not be in power armor 24/7 that was lore friendly but noooooo
>>336461709
God those fucking fusion cores.
But to be fare it made you less rely on the power armor and actually surviving without which I think Bethesda accidentally did. But some of the fucking monsters you couldn't beat without it you were screwed.
That was the only game mechanic that I liked but that's like putting whipped cream on a piece of shit
>>336461526
and now their shitty upcoming DLC pack Far Harbor is focusing on Synths ahahaha
literally he weakest part of the game in terms of story etc and they make another quest for it you pay for
>>336461123
Ya....I would even play the older DLC along with the new.
Honest Hearts was the best DLC
>>336461593
>fire Todd and this guy.
Do you hate money?
Normie coulnt give a single shit about anything as long as they get their linear survival base builder "rpg" fps with an interesting backdrop.
>>336462130
I fucking hate the idea of Synths in the first place. Its like their writers saw Blade Runner and thought
"How can we put this in a video game but make it shitty?"
Then Todd rolls by and says make it all about slavery and be as subtle as a kick to the face.
>>336459625
Fallout 4 made me love Fallout New Vegas even more.
Thanks Todd for making me realize this.
>>336460194
>Even if New Vegas events hadn't happened yet, the place still exists and people loved New Vegas..
Fallout 4 takes place after New Vegas anyway.
>>336460863
fuck you pete
>>336461253
yeah plus everyone should have known by the time fallout 3 or even skyrim at latest that Bethesda does not care about tiny insignificant lore details in their games and only really cares about the big stuff.
Its why stuff like Jet being prewar now and What power armour was the best changes
>>336460294
>3 outsold NV
Actually NV sold more than 3
>>336462257
No, it was good but Dead Money was the best.
It changed up the game play which was great.
>>336461274
Who would win?
>>336459625
Is it just me, or have Obsidianfags been getting really obnoxious these past few years?
What happened?
>>336461087
>>336461254
That doesn't even count, that's more of a Fallout 2 reference if anything.
>>336460863
Sadly this is becoming the industry norm with most developers.
If you want to see a strong start and a shit dinish, please see the Mass Effect series.
Obligatory
>>336462207
>>336462725
They're pissed people are still talking about new Vegas so Bethesda hired a bunch of viral marketers to defend fallout 4
>>336460478
>with only a year of development.
And it showed
>>336462850
Still irks me
>>336460863
legitimately retarded
he even has downy eyes
>"Psst Todd, I'm a huge fan, I really loved New Vegas!"
>>336462850
>>336462850
>lazily tries to refute argument
>realizes he's wrong
>lol it's just a silly game
>>336460478
They want to make an elders scrolls game so they shit out this game so they can have a "proof of concept" when they pitch the next game.
They essentially saying "So fuck fallout fans, here is a piece of shit that at least looks nice and keep in mind we're just using you to do another game."
>>336461087
http://imgur.com/a/X0CJT
>>336462850
Oh yeah, wasn't Jet invented by Myron in Fallout 2? I only recently played it.
>>336463391
Will the radial dialogue feature in the next ES?
Worse, will there be voiced protagonist in the next ES?
>>336459625
Fallout New Vegas
To join the BHoS you had to complete various branching missions that could end in several different outcomes and once you were in you got power armor training. This took several hours of fun game play. You could avoid the BHoS if you wanted until the very end.
Fallout 4:
You find power armour in 15 min of the game. Fuck even getting training. And you join the BHoS after 1 escort mission where you essentially were the person being escorted
Bethesda fans support this.
>>336463990
Didn't they pull a similar stunt in 3? Where you took on a behemoth with a Fat Man?
>>336459808
Kill yourself frogposter.Fallout 4 sucks dick and NV is good.
>>336464069
Yeah, but at least you didn't get to use power armor and it wasn't the first thing you do/see in the game.
>>336464241
Yeah I was trying to show that it's becoming a Bethesda hallmark to show off the end-game toys early on to make you feel like you're having fun.
>>336463990
You realise that power armour training was a bethesda invention right?
It wasn't in the original fallouts and was only in NV because people would have been pissed if it wasn't in the game even with how rare power armour is in it
>>336459625
No one defends bethesda, they're just one of the few companies that makes polished open world games.
If you like open world RPGs there's not a lot of choices you can make.
>>336464436
Wow, I actually didn't know that. Always assumed NV did it first because 4 never had the training pre-req
>>336463990
I love NV much more than 3 and 4, but the player in 4 was military vet I think so thats why he had training
>>336464683
And the female lawyer naturally had power armour training too lol
>>336460294
No it didn't, check the sales retard
>>336461981
Or. You know.
Actually make the damn suits rare. To prevent abuse, just have it so you need better and more items to fix higher tier armor.
It would make certain pieces of Power Armor more easy to maintain but shitty quality.
I shouldn't be able to repair a goddamn Proto power armor with some cans I found in a back alley.
Raider Power Armor would finally be useful AND make sense.
>>336464683
and ghouls, and crusty bitches of settlers also have power armor training
what really makes me giddy is the idea that I'm intelligent enough to build generators, have knowledge of gun components and can magically rip apart houses making them disappear
the game literally gets worse the more you use your brain, it's counter-intuitive to the older games and NV where being you know..SMART fucking helped you out
>>336464967
>you need a fusion reactor to build this teleportation machine
>or 4 windmills like whatevs
>>336459625
Properly modded NV is still one of the best playing and looking games ever made. You just need a GTX 980ti to smoothly run it with non shit ENB and new meshes and parallax textures
>>336465068
How about an AMD Radeon HD 7640G?
>>336464748
Ofcorse she sucked the training out of her husband.
Twice. Somtimes with a littel help of mister stick 3 times a day.
>>336464654
yeah Bethesda invented it for fallout 3 because of how easy it would have been to get power armour since it is supposed to be end game armour without it.
New vegas kept the training because Obsidian cares more about consistency about tiny details where as Bethesda will change that stuff as they please because they don't view it as important to keep whoever invented Jet or how long, power armour batteries are supposed to last.
>>336464534
>polished
>>336465058
kek
>>336459625
>makes up lore
You know they own the IP right? They are the lore. Besides, all fiction is 'made up' you dense motherfucker.
>want to do another playthrough of NV
>several modders have taken their mods down in protest of some thing
>can't get shit like a world of pain, 4gb updated, etc.
i just wanted to play vidya
>>336466162Fear and Loathing in New Vegas
>>336466162
Check again, they're all back up again and have been for a good while.
>>336461424
The Power Armor revamp was based on this mod.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37983/?
>>336459625
What are FO4's references to NV?
>>336466741
Someone said something about Valentines journal entries early in the thread.
>>336459808
>your argument is invalid because i call you silly names
>>336460294
New Vegas outsold 3
>>336462602
>>336464850
SHUT UP!!!
>>336467001
And probably outpirated as well.
>>336463538
Hm, the only clear reference seems to be the robot hacking attempt using House's voice. It's good to know that Bethesda at least recognizes the existance of NV.
>>336466741
guy who shoots nate/nora is from NCR territory
thats pretty much what I remember
>>336459625
wait when did FO4 reference NV?
>>336467164
NCR is not exclusively NV its Fallout 2
>>336467430
Well its like the only reference to the past games, other than 3
I still can't believe what a turd Fallout 3 was after 4+ years in developement. Bethesda forced Obsidian to push out New Vegas in 18 months, imagine what they could have done with a full year.
>>336467730
Please no, not this.
>>336466741
Mr. House went to CIT apparently
>>336459625
New vegas was too good bros, too good.
>>336462274
Normies even found 4 lacking, all over rebbit and shit. People bought the game because of the the word Fallout and Bethesda.
Now Bethesda have tarnished the franchise with 4, no doubt a lot less people will buy the next Fallout game.
>>336462524BUY MY FUCKING DLC FOR FALLOUT 4 TOO IT WILL MAKE YOU LOVE NV EVEN MORE
>>336462541
Really? That makes it even worse. They are so bitter that New Vegas was more praised from fan perspective it's hilarious. It's bad how they didn't take anything from New Vegas in terms of features and put it in 4 either.
Where's it implied this is after New Vegas? The date or something?
>>336462725
cool post
Fallout 4 showed that Obsidian were the better company.
>>336466026
>You know they own the IP right? They are the lore.
Maybe according to the law.
>>336462850
what an absolute cunt
>>336469861
>Where's it implied this is after New Vegas? The date or something?
Yep. NV was set 204 years after the bombs dropped, whereas Fallout 4 was 210 years after.
Just six years, but still.
>>336463965
There are several races in the ES universe, so there's still hope
>>336459625
Pete "Notgonnadiscussshitaboutgamewithtalkingmutantsandghouls" Hines
>>336462889
kek
>>336463965
Bethesda had a chance to redeem Fallout 4 with DLC. It's already shit out two pathetic packs and Far Harbor has little content just more landmass and is about synths.
No doubt a voiced protoganist will be in ES with the way they're going.
Furthermore, why the fuck did they hire a basically identical Nathan Drake voice actor? That was a fucking terrible descision, again.
>>336463965
I'm almost positive there will be voiced protags for the next TES.
Howdy pardner
i guess new vegas was ok, but definately not as good as fo4, i preordered that as fast as I could
Can't wait for more dlcs, right guys?
>>336470319
>Can't wait for more dlcs, right guys?
Unfortunately I think they run out of cut-out content.
>>336470319
Toddposting is one of my favorite /v/ memes
>>336470425
Excuse me?
I think anon is mistaken
We-I mean,Bethesda has the greatest creative minds in the business so I think anon is mistaken
one thing I realy fucking hated about 4, was that Bethesda, who knew they're games were massive with the role playing aspects, absolutely removed that with 4.
your literally man whose looking for his son the whole way through who talks in a monotone happy voice.
even when my guys a fucking drunkard hairy skinny mad max looking motherfucker who kills people who look at him.. suddenly I talk to someone and my guy is smiling in a cheery voice saying HEY NO PROBLEM HEHE HAVE A GOOD DAY..
fuck off. multiple playthroughs was destroyed.
Fallout 4 is a jrpg without the grinding
>>336470604
Another small touch was INT related dialogue. F4 main character with 1 INT will talk as eloquently as someone with 10 INT
>>336466854
which could have been easily references to fallout 2
>>336470723
I'm not arguing which way or the other (although I'd lean more towards it being NV because that's the one that's fresher in their player base).
>>336470063
wow and no references at all
it's painfully obvious that they are bitter
>FNV endings - Diverse endings relating to nearly every faction depending on how you worked with them
>F4 ending - "Boo hoo my son is an evil jackass the world sux but I'm strong and can deal with it."
>become big man at Insitute, can't even augment myself with cybernetic parts
>room in the Insitute that looks like a machine that would do this, no one goes into that room.. nothing
>walk into combat zone
>literally everyone immediately fires at you
>never reopens
they tried to make Borderlands and failed. Roll on Borderlands 3 for the real Fallout experience now.. fuck off Todd Howard
Hello, anons
I was wondering if one of you would like to share an adventure with me?
All you gotta do is buy Fallout 4 and all of the dlc's
>>336470604
this, it's literally impossible to roleplay
>>336471148
More like
>F4 ending - "huh war never changes, right guys? There was literally no war in this game but it never changes because thats the famous line that Ron Pearlman said but we didn't get him to voice act this game so listen to your player character talk about a bunch of bullshit you don't care about"
I fucking hate 4 more and more every time I think about it.
>>336470425
this, they've churned out two shitty packs and bethfags think they're going to get loads more DLC.
Bethesda will do one more after Far Harbor then call it quits, I guarenfuckingte it.
Stop right there
You know why I pulled you over?
We suspect that you didnt buy fallout 4 and all of its dlc's
I recommend that you change that immediately
>>336471527
It's okay officer, I bought New Vegas Ultimate Edition instead!
>>336471432
Ron was the news guy in the beginning.
I am honestly not sure if I hate that more than if he wasn't in it at all.
>>336471159
>go to robot race track
>get shot at
>robots attacks you
>never reopens
>kill a guy who was canning bad meat
>the fully functional canning factory stays closed
>Go to the wildcats
>they don't do anything
>they all have a bunch of power armor suits for some reason
>go to ship with foreign ghouls on it
>they shoot you on sight
>no quest to use your intelligence to sort things out or to find a translator or something
>just go and kill them all
>>336471643
NO
NOT NEW VEGAS
FALLOUT 4!
>>336459625
Fallout 4 is a hot pile of garbage on xbone. I got 5 hours in and realized I couldn't save and that the game hadn't quick saved at all. 5 hours of my time completely wasted on an already waste of time hobby. That's not to even mention the gay ass tower defense concept meta and them fucking up skill points and magazines, uninteresting locations, retarded power armor, grenade throwing, etc. The gameplay concept was already good in NV and 3 and I don't understand why they thought they had to change it. Factions are dumb too besides brotherhood. Why is this game so fucking bad? I still can't even get the motivation to finish it.
>inb4 pleb for playing on console
>>336471747
But New Vegas has so much content, I haven't seen everything yet! Just keeps me playing, sir!
>>336471747
I'm sorry, mister, but all my friends say that New Vegas is a more enjoyable and complete experience.
>try to make mass effect dialouge
>fail horribly
>try to make a borderlands map
>fail horribly
i also loathe how small the map feels with terrible locations, even the vaults were disgustingly bad. anyone else feel the map was unbelievably tiny?
they tried advertising it as Skyrim size with no mountains. Skyrim felt pretty big with mountains, this felt 100x smaller than Skyrim without mountains. How does that even make sense Bethesda?
i also hate how OP you and how fucking pointless companions are now.
>>336471831
>>336471872
WELL THEY ARE LYING
FALLOUT 4 IS THE BEST FALLOUT GAME OUT THERE
>>336471830
mate it's even shitter on PC
the graphics are better on consoles, you should see how shit it looks a computer.
>>336471937
>anyone else feel the map was unbelievably tiny?
Yes. After about 15 hours I had seen everything. Contrast that with 3 or New Vegas where I had explored the map fully after 60 hours or so
>>336472062
H-hold on a minute... are you... Todd Howard?
Just bought pic related.
Any tips, fundamentals, builds?
Should I play FO4 or BHoS for PS2?
can we all agree that they rushed Fallout 4 out so they can move on to make Elder Scrolls 6 on their updated as shitty gamebryo engine
it wouldn't surprise me at all if they already announce ES6 at E3.
GIVE ELDER SCROLLS TO ZENIMAX AND FALLOUT TO OBSIDIAN
>>336472206
N-no
Todd doesn't have a mustache,
I do
>>336472206
W-what? Are you blind? Todd Howard doesn't wear a mask!
>>336472345
They didn't rush it though. They were working on it and planning it since 2009.
I weep for Elder Scrolls fans because they shouldn't expect anything more than Skyrim 2: no skills edition
>>336472236
pro tip:return it
>>336472539
>2009
hope Todd Howard dies
>>336472236
Do not forget to equip new members of your squad with weapons and driving requires minimal skill points. also learn to hate the early raider missions because the game get's crazy easy after words.
bethfags will actually defend the Wasteland Workshop DLC
>>336472760was the one toddposting
It'll actually allow me to role play more as a mayor of a settlement
>every new citizen most prove their worth by killing a captured raider
>>336460184
fallout 3 was way better than fallout 4
>WE COMPLETELY REHAULED COMBAT GUYS
>ITS AMAZING NOW
>its a mediocre shooter now
>random critical hits are gone and you can only use them through VATS
>no choice for full explosive play styles
>melee combat blows
>you can't dual wield unarmed weapons
>weapon upgrades are arbitrary bullshit
>always use the same upgrades because enemies level scale and get stronger as you level up
>combat gets really repetitive and boring since you fight another enemy every 10 steps and every battle just turns into using VATS over and over for critical hits to kill the bullet sponge enemies faster so you can pick up more aluminum.
Never believe their lies.
>>336472982
yeah that's okay stuff, but it's literally that and concrete
the neon signs are shit and it's one kind of font lettering and one OPEN sign.
it's pretty disgusting how little they included in the pack
>>336473106
honestly, I was a bit of a millenial with Bethesda after Morrowind but some games were genuinely good and i would always purchase them release date, I mean they were consistent up until skyrim.
Whilst Skyrim was good you could see the similarities with 4. Especially unfinished cut content.
After 4 I will never buy a Bethesda game again.
>>336459625
Fallout New Vegas
>9 types of shotgun ammo alone
Fallout 4
>9 types of ammo total for all firearms in the game
>>336473485
Obsidian probably got all those types of shotgun ammo done in half a day too.
>>336473630
>implying Josh "Balance Man" Sawyer didn't spend lots of time figuring out how to make each ammo type ~meaningful~
>>336473630
Well that speaks volumes about how much Bethesda care.
It's the little things.
>>336473821
His balance was on in New Vegas.
He didn't went full Balance Man until Pillars.
>they put songs from 3 in 4
>somehow the radio is the shittest one in all three games
did Bethesda contract AIDS through the development or something
>>336460294
wrong idiot but what should we expect
>>336473943
Pillars is pretty good with 3.0 patch, though.
>>336464534
>polished
>>336472345
Do you know that when they started on Fallout 4, they ported Syrim to Xbox One for feasibility tests?
>>336472129
I've put something like 1000 hours on new vegas amd still find new stuff every now and then
fallout 4 was so shit it ain't even funny
>>336475764
top kek
>>336476186
i laugh and also get angry when I see comments on screbbit that people say they've put over 300 hours into Fallout 4 and have multiple characters
LOL NO
>>336477171
i enjoyed 3 and NV (loved 1 & 2) but 4 is an absolute fucking joke to the franchise.
brotherhood of steel is a legit better game in the universe.
>>336477171
I made multiple characters purely to see the different endings.
That and to exploit the SPECIAL glitch with one of them.
i seriously do not understand there thought process of a voiced protagonist, at all.
forget all the other stupid shit they did, that single handlely ruined the game for me from the get go and it destroyed the dialouge.
that and the fact they hired a guy who just fucking sounds like Nolan North or Troy Baker doing their normal voice. wtf
how is the voice actress?
>>336477845
I'm just guessing that they thought they could get more emotion out of the player with a voiced protag as opposed to a mute.
>>336477845
Mass Effect had a voiced protagonist so now we have to have one.
>>336462724
>nicest person you will ever meet
>Will you save Far Harbor and at what cost?
>Another case file for Valentine Agency
so not only is this overpriced land mass a one way quest with no alternative endings, it's also forcing you to become an agent for valentine, something I walked away from the first time he offered..
LOLOLOLIOOL
>>336459625
what are the most fun builds for NV?
>>336478592
Any build that focusses on energy weapons and critical hits. Go for the perk that causes chain reactions on critical hits and have a blast.
>>336478592
Shotgun build.
Hard mode: Reload all of your ammo and never buy any, only components for reloading.
>>336478592
Any build
>>336463176
It defiantly showed, but still stomped 3
>>336479872
they gave their shitty engine to a bunch of fallout fans who made a full length mod that beats 3 and 4 combined
I just started playing FO4. Who is best waifu?
>>336480507
Suicide.
>>336477845
>i seriously do not understand there thought process of a voiced protagonist, at all.
More fleshed-out than just leaving your character a static mute I guess. Your character feels on the same level as everybody else if done right.
If it seriously breaks your escapism that badly, then maybe at least have an option (or mods) to turn it off or on, otherwise so long as it doesn't force a limitation on races or dialogue options, there shouldn't necessarily be much wrong with it.
>>336480841
>so long as it doesn't force a limitation on races or dialogue options
Yeah, there's no way VA can place any limitation on dialogue options...
I cared more about the Vault-Tec Sales Rep than the SS or his stupid fucking family.
>>336481147
Not saying it can't, just if.
If it does put a limit to the point of people's darkest Skyrim 2 fears, then fuck it.
>>336482105
>If it does put a limit to the point of people's darkest Skyrim 2 fears, then fuck it.
It pretty much does already though.
>>336482105
I don't understand why people even fear for TES, it's not like the series are known for well written dialogues.
>>336482297
I think it's the same reason it didn't go down well with F4 i.e. roleplaying is killed
>>336482297
you didnt play morrowind did you?
>>336482819
I played like 7-12 hours, most people were wikipedia entries and the combat was the worst thing, like a landmark in terrible video game combat. Really cool world, though. It also leaked memory like crazy despite being a version with all DLCs.
>>336478592
Melee builds are pretty great for a game with a fuck ton of guns and ammo, but that also can be fun if you want to do pure gun builds.
>>336459625
People are oblivious to those facts, we need you to remind them, OP
>>336461274
He looks like and Edgar Costume from Men In Black
