When the fuck are Nintendo going to make a new one? There was so much to be improved, yet they keep shitting out the same Kirby game year after year. I like Kirby but fucking hell, it's getting stale.
>making the same Kirby game more than once
The Adventure/Dreamland/64 era is over Anon.
We're never getting a Kirby sequel again.
Well, there is new one for 3ds. It has new mechanics
>>336456936
Why notwish for it?
>>336457197
Return to Dreamland, Triple Deluxe and Planet Roboot are basically the same, with some slight alternations and gimmicks. Like I said, I don't really mind Kirby games being similar, but having so many in such a short amount of time leaves no room for interesting spin-offs. Rainbow Curse was good for what it was, but the concept was old and it didn't do anything new with it. It was just a more refined version of Canvas.
Air Ride was barely a finished game, but it was extremely fun. Revisiting the idea could yield an excellent game.
It was panned critically, with critics mentioning the lack of decent controls and depth, turning off a lot of players.Sounds kinda familiar, really
>>336456936
All the key people from HAL's golden age already retired, died or left the company.
I had fun with Air Ride, but I personally think its overrated by a lot of people.
The mechanics were too simple, the courses were often too narrow, and the vehicles were a bit imbalanced.
>>336457483
they're wrong about Kirby and right about Starfox.
HAL has mentioned its popularity in that anniversary collection art book so it could happen at some point
>>336457824
Pretty sure anybody who ever talked about Air Ride specifically referred to City Trial. Nobody remembers the races.
Anyway it wouldn't work, I can already see the posts.
>60$ for a fucking minigame
>LAAAAG
>Wow got the dart ending way to go Nintendo
>Warp Star is OP pls nerf
>>336457824
City Trial is where it gets all of it's praise from. I actually had a lot of fun with Top Ride too, it was pure chaotic fun. Air Ride, as you already mentioned, was pretty shit though.
>>336457824
>and the vehicles were a bit imbalanced.
Don't be silly anon, the vehicles were perfectly balanced.
>>336457824
That's why a sequel would be great. It would improve on those things and add to it's already great city trial mode
>>336458021
>Computer gets a Swerve Star in City Trial
Fucking nightmare.
>>336457483
>metacritic
>ever mattering
>>336458021
>Swerve Star
Don't.Pic related was the best anyway. Who /wagonstar/ here?
>>336458190
Wagon Star had great stat multiplier. Severely underrated machine.
>>336458119
We'd hawk loogies into the drinks of anyone who used the Swerve Star.
in our circle it was more of a crime than stealing someone's star or picking Oddjob.
>>336458021
Some vehicles were more balanced than others.
>>336457483
This is why I stopped reading reviews
>>336458282
Agreed. The thing was a godsend in Air Ride mode as well. It's always my go to star.
>>336458375
>tfw you will never play Kirby Air Ride with your friends after school again
Slick Star is my favorite, extremely fun and rewarding controls.
Anyone who uses Swerve Star is a piece of shit.
>Still no way to play Air Ride via Dolphin netplay
>All these hipster choices
Vroom vroom motherfuckers, got a delivery here from my cock to your ass
>>336457458
careful kirby fans are extremely autistic and can't accept the fact they are all the same
>He doesn't main Rocket Star
>Takes like 4 top speeds to reach acceptable racing speeds
>After that starts gaining massive amounts per top speed pick-up
>Same amount of charges to get a decently fast boost charge
>One boost will take you halfway through any course
>With decent boost pad awareness, there's barely any need to charge up
>Gets absolutely ridiculous speeds from drafting
You may laugh at the start, but I'll be ramming this speed dildo from hell up your ass faster than you can say ''poyo'' motherfucker.
>>336456936
>complaining about them making the same kirby games while asking for a rehash.
wew
>>336459741
Yes. I want a proper Air Ride game. The one we got was severely lacking in pretty much every aspect, but was fun. If they went back and actually fixed the issues, it would very much justify a rehash.
>>336456936
Isn't an anon working on a fan sequel to Air Ride? From the screenshots he shows, it looks breddy gud.
>>336459524BRRBRRBRRBRRBRRBRR
WEUWEUWEUWEUWEUWEUWEUWEUWEUWEU
>>336459451
How can they be the same if RTDL and every game before it was shit and the other two were amazing?
>>336460101
Watch your tongue, anon.
>>336458874
can't dolphin emulate the broadband adapter? then you could just use tunneling software to play LAN against someone and you'd be set for every mode but top ride
>>336459838
>If they went back and actually fixed the issues, it would very much justify a rehash.
Too bad that wouldn't happen. If Nintendo made a sequel today we'd have less features than the original and content locked behind amiibos.
>>336460175
No, fuck you, I played these games more than anyone else and I know my shit. Everything before encountering Whispy Woods in Triple Deluxe was a waste of time in the most literal sense.
>>336460101
>Shit
>Super Star
>Dreamland 3
>64
>Nightmare in Dreamland
>Amazing Mirror
(You)
>tfw mostly only had fun in kirby air ride since my brother and I would make up our own stories and games in city trial
I barely even remember if it was good, just that I had a lot of fun. What a shame that I will never experience that again.
>pretend that the nice cave under the volcano was my home
>brother comes in, makes me get stuck in that light square and takes off with my car
>mfw
>>336458874
I remember a thread a while ago where someone posted an online kirby air ride. Don't have any links or a name so you'll have to google it or check an archive though.
>>336459838
>complaining that every Kirby game is the same while actively trying to justify a blatant rehash
>>336460643
>Wanting a second game that actually improves upon its prequel and does things right instead of a 6th sequel that adds absolutely nothing new
>>336460392
>tfw mostly only had fun in Kirby Air Ride since my brother and I would make up our own stores and games in city trail
Wow anon, that's super autisticand me and my friends used to do the same thing. How cute.
Also, the online Air Ride you're referring is Air Ride Modoki if I'm not mistaken. It looks like shit and the netplay is ass since the server(s) are in Japan, but generally it's a pretty good recreation.
>>336460724
>adds absolutely nothing new
>he said while clamoring for LITERALLY THE SAME GAME BUT POLISHED MORE
Now I KNOW you're baiting
>>336460057
>fan sequel to Air Ride
>mfw im not the only one
>look online
>multiple others
>all shit
I wonder how many attempted fan sequels this game has.
Air Ride is the only good kirby game.
>>336457396
clearly, the only way we're getting KAR2 is by...
BLOWING UP POPSTAR!
>>336458874
the fuck are you talking about
KAR supports netplay IIRC
>>336459524
>it's a destruction derby episode
>>336461586
>It's the shitty checker stage
>>336460824
Yes? It's the second game in over 13 years.
>>336461731
>machine passage
This is when I miss my swerve star
>>336462371
Machine Passage with Slick Star is the most fun race possible in the game.
>>336456936
>tfw never did get to play this game
Played it all of once at a demo kiosk and it seemed like a lot of fun
>>336457483
They're not wrong.
The stars handle like ass, combat is haphazard at best, there aren't enough tracks nor a Story Mode, the City Trial map needs to either be bigger or be less of a clusterfuck, and WHY THE FUCK DOES THE WARP STAR HAVE UNFITTING ENGINESHIT?
That said, it's definitely got good bones as a concept. Much like Meteos and KI:U, it just lacks execution.
>>336461586
>Its Vs Dedede
No idea why they'd have one of the final events suddenly be co-op.
>>336463262
Meteos was god tier, the only thing wrong with it was that they fucked up every sequel to it and the first game was the only good one.
>>336463514
>Vs. Dedede
>can attack each other
>>336463708
>Vs Dedede
>Can't fucking win
I hate this mini-game.
>>336463692
>What is Brabbit?
But yes, it is God Tier in my book.
>>336456936
Reminder that HAL has expressed interest in making another
>>336463786
Oh, see, Vs. Dedede shows how unpolished the game is, because if you get Needle and just mash A, he's toast. Whereas nothing else even scratches him.
>>336460323
>Whispy Woods
>Triple Deluxe
Almost had me going there, anon.
>Triple Deluxe was the first Kirby game I played to completion
>started Robobot last night
>enjoying it but I find the mecha sections to not be as fun as Hypernova sections wereI played TD while incredibly high and really loved the game. Doing the same for Robobot and really digging this too although it seems that I'm moving through the game a lot faster.
>>336464515
>enjoying it but I find the mecha sections to not be as fun as Hypernova sections were
Hypernova was shit, you might want to get yourself mentally checked out-
>played TD while incredibly high
OK, that explains it.
>>336464705
To me, it felt that there was more going on during Hypernova and I felt a lot stronger, like I was a force of nature. Doesn't feel that way at all while in a mecha. I do really love that they implemented custom animations and designs for each Ability but maybe mecha-ing improves later on, or you do more with it. I'm guessing my first boss fight while in a mech suit will be spectacular.
>>336463786
>Destruction Derby
>Volcano Stage
>15+ Offense with Shadow Star or Hydra
Did anyone actually give a shit about the game outside of City Trial?
>>336457197
64/RTdL/TD/PR are all basically the same game with some gimmick placed over themand that's okay.
>>336457385
Why does Kirby always look more angry in the american releases?
>>336464985
I consider power mixing to be the "gimmick" of 64
The reason why nintendo won't make another is because nobody fucking likes it.
Nobody likes Kirby Air Ride, everyone is pretending. There's a fucking god-tier PC port of the game with 16 player online that can run on toasters and nobody fucking plays it. Why? Because nobody likes kirby air ride.
>>336465093
Yep, power mixing for 64, Hypernova for TD, the Robobot for PR, with RTdL being the straight example with no gimmicks.
>>336465172
>god tier pc port
You mean dolphin?
>>336465452
No. Dolphin only supports 4 players and can't run on toasters.
>>336465172
Are you retarded?
>>336465538
No. I'm mentally well, you people are the ones suffering from cognitive dissonance.
>>336465172
>god tier port
you aren't referring to Modoki are you?
surely you must be jestin'
>>336465506
How do I find the port?
>>336465796
Modoki is fantastic. It just looks bad.
>>336456936
The game didn't sell, only the 10 people in this thread had copy. Why would they make abothrr one?
>>336465860
it's alright but far from God tier
>>336460324
>zoom in one line is two lines not even close together
I am annoyed
>>336465373
Oh, I read the first post as "with the same gimmick" instead of "some gimmick" hurr durr hurr
>>336465172
>God-tier PC port
>16 player online that's only really enjoyable if you live in nipland
>No one plays it because it's obscure and looks like shit
>>336465028
Westerners don't want to play as the cute, soft voiced squishy pink ball.
They want to play as the cute, soft voiced squishy pink ball WITH ATTITUDE.
>>336466070
sold more then SF0 has/will
>>336465172
Yeah, I was completely faking having a great time when I 100%ed it.
My brother and i must have played city for hundreds of hours over the years
Mindlessly collecting upgrades just never gets old
The game got panned because they treated the racing part as the main game instead of the city trial. If you just do the race mode, the stars are imbalanced and there aren't too many tracks. The main attraction is city trial where there events other than races, making the stars a lot more balanced
Post best tracks. I'll start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si0lThmO5To
>>336457458
I'd argue that they are some of the most solid kirby games in years. Yeah they are similar, but their gimmicks are unique and cool. I mean, come on, kirby piloting a fucking mech? The coolest shit ever
>>336467620
such an odd song machine passage is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0-TRGMg9R8
>>336467785
Kirby did that in Epic Yarn.
>>336466309
Linkerino pls
>>336467620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVXnoanopzA
>>336467834
IIEEEEEEIEEEEEEIEEEEEIEEEEEYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHBest Air Mode track
Am i the only one who thinks of this piece of shit vacuum when i see or hear the word 'kirby'?
>>336467834
OEOEOEOEOEOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEO
>>336457936
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkqkDn8hw
>For last year's anniversary post, I talked about my favourite game in the main Kirby series, Kirby's Adventure. But if I were to pick a favourite game outside the main series, I'd have to choose Kirby Air Ride. The sense of speed as you hurtle along on an Air Ride Machine sets it apart from the other games, and it just feels really fresh. And my favourite course in that game is... Well, I might be biased, having designed it, but it's got to be the sunrise setting of Celestial Valley. As for my favourite Air Ride Machine, that would be the Winged Star, with its superb gliding ability. Soaring serenely through the valley on this machine lets you experience the true joy of flight! I'm sure Kirby's adventures will continue to take him outside the side-scrolling action of the main series, whether it be racing as in Kirby Air Ride, rolling like a ball, fighting, or moving to a funky beat. As he has since the first game, our bold young adventurer will continue to span different genres and voyage to faraway worlds."
t. Shinya Kumazaki, director at HAL labs
>>336468080
Not the same vacuum, but still.
>>336468080
Am i the only one who thinks of this piece of shit vacuum when i see or hear the word 'kirby'?
>>336467620
https://youtu.be/ETG1SZvZqDo
>>336467910
http://airmodo-en.wikidot.com/
It looks like there's some actual US servers up now. Not 100% sure though.
>>336468304
>>336468332
My fucking nigger, holy shit.
>>336468342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Kb8VPTc10
>>336468304
>>336468332
BLTmind
>>336467620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9P30IvtATM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msNQpoChcK8
Post stories/memories from City Trial:
We pretended Wagon Star was an ice cream truck.
Competitions on who could make the sickest jumps on the wheelie bike.
Upon finding the two hidden flowers we went mad searching for the third one.
Having some sort of pit fight where one person would hop on the hydra and everyone used ships in the underground to try and defeat the hydra played.
>>336468734
>BLT
can we mind meld again?
How many shmup sections are in Robobot?
>>336468972
>hidden flowers
What?
>>336469067
>He doesn't know
>>336469154
tell me
>>336468972
All I can say is that the game became way more fun when we decided to play it with no holds barrred.you're meant to be a dick in city trial just like Mario Party. but I will mention that
>Having some sort of pit fight where one person would hop on the hydra and everyone used ships in the underground to try and defeat the hydra played.
I did this too
>Staying in the air for 20 minutes as the dragoon
>>336468972
>Free mode
>Get on the Hydra
>Destroying the other player's star
>Ram into him, sending him flying to the corner of the map
>Now make a game out of keeping him out of the garage with the Hydra
This was fun as fuck.
>>336469067
There were two flowers, one on the very top of the city hall and one on the mountains next to the volcano.
>hit someone with the shadow star
>follow them around until they find another ride, then kill that
>city trial ends
>they're stuck with some shit like the swerve for the race
>lose___________
>in 4-2 of Robobot
>that part where you kill the poison boss and have to hit that bomb block to get the sticker and food
What do I need for that? Bomb ability then instead of poison?
>>336469540
>two flowers
anon...
>>336469564
>shit like the swerve
>shit
>>336468972
>3 players
>Friend and I are trying to murder each other because (this happened years ago, don't remember the exact reason)
>His favorite ability for murdering is Plasma
>None of us know that Plasma can be manually charged, so he always waits a long time
>During a chase, a figures out that you can charge it by moving the control stick like a madman
>"Oh shit nigger"
>Other friend is minding their own business and cruises in-between us
>Me being the scum bag nigger I am drive in front of them to bait Plasmafag's attack
>The attack fucking homes in on me, LOOPING AROUND baitfag
>"WHAT THE FUCK"
>We have to stop the session because my two friends are laughing so damn hard
>>336469259
Back then, we actually didn't fight each other at all, except for the Legendary Machine parts.
>>336469540
Oh, that was a secret. I didn't know.
>>336467620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbIaWOQklhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf7yYuH9D3U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh-Alss2r98
>>336469580
>another one up ahead
>bomb block surrounded by blocks I can't destroy
AHHHHH
HELP
>doing the flight game after a city trial where you pretend you're a dart flying towards a dart board
>someone manages to smack your ride in the almost infinite amount of space to fly
>hit the ground
>get a 0
>lose
>Memory card with save that had everything unlocked dies
>We couldn't be bothered doing it again except for some of the City Trial stuff
Thank fuck memory cards like that arealmostgone.
Is there even any counterplay for the hydra, besides for staying in the air?
>>336469580
Poison's gas attack travels with wind currents.
Also there is a mech hidden somewhere after the boss, which you need to get the 3rd cube.
>>336470448
You sure? I stood there and tried nearly everything in front of the fan but nothing got through. I'll try again though. Thanks.
>>336469564
Swerve is basically overpowered, especially for races. So of course you lost the race.
>>336470438
Get a cannon or projectile ability and just blast away at their ass. The cannon is especially useful because of the high knockback/hitstun.
>>336470438
dodging, because hydra can't fucking turn
>>336457483
Why the fuck?!
Air Ride was one of the most fun games I've ever played, and my favorite racing game ever! How the fuck can they pan it like this?!
>>336459524
It's a fucking superjump. It can't fly, you dumbass.
>>336470652
Video game critics are wrong more often than you'd expect.
>>336470808
Was that a Force Staff followed by a glitchy attack proc?
>>336470908
I wouldn't call it a glitch, she just attacked him while getting slid by the force staff.
>>336470053
>Sky Sands
>Can't stop hearing this https://youtu.be/KO2mPNNC4CM
It's fucking frustrating. I can't get rid of it and every time I hear either, the fucking thought borrows itself deeper in my brain.
>>336470965
Glitch-y.
>>336471164
Sure, why not.
>>336464829
TLDR:
DUDE WEED LMAO XDD
>tfw mastered the swerve star
>>336464958
Did you even bother playing the other two modes? Ignorant jackass.
>>336467620
Will Jun Ishikawa ever get the respect he deserves? the dude is seriously talented
>>336463262
>KI:U lacks execution
I will fight you
>>336468080
I fix vacuums for a living and I still think of the pink blob first unless I'm at work
>>336468080
Also they're not really pieces of shit. They're hilariously overpriced, heavy as fuck, and the attachments suck dick, but they have good airflow and the last FOR FUCKING EVER.
>>336470652
I remember one review bitching because you play the game with one "A button". Several times at that.
These are the negatives he put down.
- A-button!
- A-ggravating gameplay
- A-wkward design
>>336471883
Really fucking heavy too. I don't know how they sell these to soccer moms.
They are very solid though, yes. Basically industrial level quality and build.
>>336471961
Ugh, reminds me of the people railing on Sonic because "All you do is hold forward LOL".
>>336463262
>KI:U
>lacking execution
That game was well worth the money. Just the right balance of story and gameplay
>>336459036
so long as you have 0 glides you are golden with scooter.
>>336472389
>weight makes you fly less
>>336457483
Air Ride showed you don't need complex buttons to have fun.
>>336472529
Scooter was weird. Weight dropped your max height and distance but it multiplied top speed. If anything having 10/10 weight/speed gave you full advantage on races.
Why the fuck are there more videos of Starfox Assault than of this game?
>>336472717
that game's been out way longer?
>>336473176
Air Ride was a fucking launch title, dumbass.
>>336473285
It came out in 2003 you disgusting fatty.
>>336473285
oh, thought this was a different thread. too many tabs.
also fuck you cunt.
>>336473285
Air Ride was a N64 game before that
>>336473417
It's still earlier than Resident Evil 4, nut-sucking ball fancy.
>>336473480
RE4 sold better and continued to be released on different platforms you foot fisting jew.
>>336473579
Anal-spinning transgender.
>>336463262
>Much like Meteos and KI:U, it just lacks execution.
Fuck you, both of those games are fantastic, especially KI:U.
>>336471663
Bring it. Those controls suck, the weapons aren't balanced, the difficulty settings need tweaking, and the story needs to be rewritten to either have Dark Pit killed off or not used at all.
>>336475065
This goes to you two as well:
>>336474662
>>336472290
>>336475065
Git gud, balance is fine, weapons have different uses, difficulty options are fantastic, choke on your shit opinions
Gimme your address so we can box
>>336474662
Meteos has fewer issues than KI:U or Air Ride. Granted it is a comparatively simple puzzle game.
Still, the planets needed tighter rebalancing, and the settings needed to be more marketable.
>>336465373
RtDL had co-op and the ultra powers
>>336475160
I'm talking about weapon use for multiplayer (don't EVEN get me started on people being unable to use what they want in single player), and KI:U started that obnoxious betting and "auto-adjustment" that we unfortunately saw again in SSB4.
Women were the only good things to come from that game.
And Texas, I'll kick you into Jello.
>>336475065
Weapons aren't completely balanced but in a game where you have SO many options to choose from, that's not surprising. That said, there are still plenty of viable options to choose from anyway, so it's whatever.
Difficulty...Idk.
Story's fine.
Controls aren't optimal but honestly, they're completely fine.
>>336475313
It's also possible to cheese out Meteos by just mindlessly dragging blocks wherever.
And I never played Air Ride.
That said, I should play Meteos again, it's been years.
>people complain about RTDL, TD, PR
for being the same
>but they're totally okay with the boring dreamland games and the GBA, DS games being the same shit
>>336475065
>and the story needs to be rewritten to either have Dark Pit killed off or not used at all.
What's wrong with Dark Pit? He's suppose to be a parody based on the stereotypical rival. I also like how he was one of the few characters who called out the Gods in general.
Why was city trial so good :(
>>336468972
>get Dragoon, friend has Jet Star
>DRAG RACE 1
>veer through the copy roulette
>get wheel, which cuts my speed in half
>go into the next one
>get fucking wheel again
>friend beats me at the last fucking possible millisecond due to all the speed lost from getting wheel
>>336456936
Daily reminder the game sold like shit and had pretty bad reviews.
Daily reminder the same retards that shit on the Wii U's library now will be making threads like this on /v/ 10 years from now about Wonderful 101 or Star Fox Guard or Captain Toad.
>>336476000
>(don't EVEN get me started on people being unable to use what they want in single player)
Nigger what, you can use any weapon in single player
Texas is big, asshole, narrow it down
>>336477125
>Daily reminder the same retards that shit on the Wii U's library now will be making threads like this on /v/ 10 years from now about Wonderful 101
You talk like this is a bad thing.
>>336457483
There was depth, but it was stuff that you really need skills to pull off.
>>336456936
>Nintendo
Anyway, the next Kirby game will be an isometrical one.
I said the same thing years ago and got shat on. Thankfully, people are starting to see the light. Robobot is just Triple Deluxe 2, which was just Return to Dreamland-lite. When they do something new, it's either a one-off or just not good at all(Pic related). That 3D Kirby is sounding more and more appealing.
And to shit on RtDL even more, when I saw it wasn't this, I knew the game was gonna be underwhelming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy2l5BSBSL0
>>336478465
>just not good at all(Pic related).
Was that really bad? I was thinking about getting it, I loved Canvas Curse
>>336478465
>Thankfully, people are starting to see the light. Robobot is just Triple Deluxe 2, which was just Return to Dreamland-lite. When they do something new, it's either a one-off or just not good at all(Pic related).
So you don't like it when they stay consistent, but at the same time don't think what they do new is good or should be continued more?
>>336478465
I don't know how many times I watched this trailer. It looked so fucking hype.
>>336457483
>Critics pan Mario for trying new things
>We get NSMB forever
>Critics pan Paper Mario for being too much of the same
>We get SPM and Sticker Star
>Critics pan Kirby Air ride for bumfuck retarded reasons
>No more Kirby Air ride
I hate them so much
>>336478465
But I really liked TD and I'm enjoying PR.
>>336477125
Wonderful 101 definitely. Unique, fun, panned because it was complicated. Starfox is probably big enough that it will get sequels.
>>336478727
Nintendo fans don't know what the fuck they want. Just look at Zelda.
>WW
>It's too colourful and not like OoT
>TP
>It's too dark and too much like OoT
>SS
>It's too colourful and not like TP
Why are Nintendo games always praised in retrospect, but shat on upon release regardless of if they are good or not? Why doesn't this happen with any other company? This applies even to games that I still think are bad, they end up being praised years later anyway.
>>336460392
Air Ride Modoki
>>336479237
Wasn't Modoki advanced Chinese malware when it first came out, or some shit like that? I remember initial experiences being pretty bad.
>>336478465
I don't see how that would've been better than RtDL. The movement is way slower, Helpers aren't better than using another Kirby, Metaknight or Dedede. The mecha Dedede is pretty much the same as HR-D3 and it looks like shit with those washed out colors.
>>336478624
The controls, or lack of control is what killed the game for me.
>>336478656
>>336478752
Consistency isn't a bad thing, but slapping a gimmick on a game I already played and switching some textures and models isn't exactly innovative. I have no problem with Robobot but don't pretend it isn't the same game with a mech gimmick.
>>336479758
>>336479758
>Helpers aren't better than using another Kirby, Metaknight or Dedede
It's because the modern games only use those three and that glorified enemy that I have a problem with Return to Dreamland. It should have been called Kirby Super Star Wii instead, but that wouldn't be accurate, either. It's basically Kirby's Adventure Wii, which is the actual Japanese name. The faggot localizers had to tie in nostalgia to the US name. I'll take any opportunity to play as the helpers or animal friends again. Anyone but just those four we're stuck with.
>>336479758
Helpers were easier to make in a sprite based game because you could just palatte swap the enemy sprites. In a 3D game its easier to just palette swap Kirby or use a character with a set moveset that won't change if you add a new ability.
>>336480352
I can see animal friends returning since they are a gimmick like the Robobot, but Helpers are terrible if you compare them to using multiple Kirbys like AM or RtDL did since they don't have crippled movement like some of them had in SS/Ultra.
>>336476032
And I like options. Everyone likes options. Options are fantastic.
...until you want high performance of specific tasks and balance, then they become a problem.
Options are great in a game like Kirby, especially Milky Way Wishes, where task specificity aren't an issue. Task specificity killed KH2, Time Crisis 3 and 4, etc.
>>336468430
We should host something like a /v/kend or something for this
shit would be hilarious
>>336471520
>tfw mastering all stars
>>336471520
>tfw you only know how to use Wheelie Scooter and Swerve
>>336478465
That is beyond retarded, that GC trailer is just normal Kirby but with 3D graphics, which is also what RtDL did.
>>336458746
>tfw you still play Kirby Airride with your friends from school
feels good man
>>336485237
No, it's entirely different from what RtDL is. It looks less pastel-y and more realistic and it looks like the helpers were going to be more fleshed out.
>>336485975
It looks drab and ugly, yeah, doesn't matter to anyone beyond try-hards that think Kirby's aesthetics haven't always been cute. But that is FAR from being entirely different, the game still plays the same way.
Fleshed out I'll need to hear some proof on, because they don't look much smarter than the helpers in Kirby Super Star or it's Ultra remake.
I never got all 360 panels unlocked desu
We could get City Trial and Top Ride but the Air Ride challenges were killer. I might bust out the game to try again.
>>336478465
Only thing I'm sad about is that they still haven't brought back clean Kirby.
>>336486223
Well, no shit. It was a demo more than likely. I wouldn't put it past HAL or even Sakurai to attempt to expand on Super Star and improve on it. I want that build over what we got, and it's still possible to make the attempt.
>>336479198
It's almost as if different people in those groups have different opinions.
The only logical course of action is to make all of those things.
>>336485237
They're completely different games.
>>336478465
>imaginative Kirby 64 style level progression
>Super Star move sets
>tons of different playable characters that can all interact with Kirby, some uniquely
>tons of different playable characters that can all interact between each other
>fairies
>some characters that never saw the light of day
>Dedede's role is unknown, besides on robotic boss fight
>Adeleine's role is unknown
>Meta Knight's role is unknown
>clean
>elemental abilities that change your color
Why did Sakurai and Shimomura have to leave HAL before it was done ;_;
I hope an iso and extensive documentation leak some day
>>336488090
This. Even since the Gruesome Twosome left Hal, Kirby has been way less creative and cool.
>>336467620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhwE93eM17A
Best song in 64 too.
>>336488935
That's, once again, just a 2d Kirby game. The camera angle fools you but it's still clear there is only one direction of movement.
>>336491707
Okay? They're still completely different games. One was dynamic 2.5D and the other was flat 2.5D, they had most likely completely different levels, mechanics, characters, and plot developments between them. What was left of HAL left to pick up the pieces of GCN was unable to complete it, so they had to start from scratch and do it simpler.
