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Apologize.
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>>336452647

It's too late.
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Other M rocks
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>>336452647
For?

It's a shit game an no amount of whining is going to fix it
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I liked it.
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>>336452647
It was less shoehorned than prime.
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>>336453024
Power ups are still better than prime
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>>336452647
Sorry I liked it
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>>336452647
Oh shit, I'm sorry.
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>>336453024
All that is true but it's still fun tbqh
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>>336452874
>>336453050
>>336453479
>>336453784
>Taste this shit
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>>336452647
Here's a story that happened many times.
A designer has an idea for a game. He wants to do it right, so he decides to not be lazy. He's gotten an idea for one of his most beloved franchises to expand it for a broader audience and completely change its direction while staying true to its roots. The designer analyzes every piece, rethinking, imagining the game play out.
Finally a team was pieced together and the game starts production. He assembles the game like a jigsaw puzzle, each piece destined for a predetermined place as defined through his idea. Months pass. Progress is slow, but the designer has faith in his idea. Eventually, the game is released and other people in the public play the game for the first time. And that's where it all goes to hell.
Nothing plays out as expected. The hardest enemy falls to a simple, degenerate dodging strategy. The player groans at a tear-jerking story moment because it was forced in so predictably. He hates his companion character when he was supposed to be the most important character in the game.
And good things happen too. He discovers a new way to experience his old, beloved franchise. He falls in love with a secondary character. And now that the game is moving, the designer can (hopefully) see a hundred easy design opportunities. If he tweaked this character, a fascinating new strategy would appear. If he combined those story beats, the scripted story would be purer and more powerful. If he removed that resource cost, the pacing would obviously improve. It all seems so clear now.
The designer's in a bind. On the one hand, he has his idea, into which he poured so much love and time. On the other, he has the reality of the game in front of him- both the unexpected failures and the serendipitous discoveries. There is no good way forward from here. He must either trash his document or ignore his discoveries.

The designer's fundamental mistake is that he overplanned.
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>>336453926
What
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>>336453925
it might be the same shitposter
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The story is cringeworthy beyond belief, but the actual game is not so terrible.
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>>336454076
I stole it from a book on game design. The only real problem the game has was that Sakamoto overplanned the game and relied more on his own dream Metroid fanfic to work like he thinks it would than the people he was working with on the game.
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>>336452647
Fine
I'm sorry that Samus has such a perfect ass
I'm sorry that Sammy-chan has to wear a suit that accentuates her wonderful curves
I'm sorry Ms. Aran has to listen to the sounds of me jacking it to her
I'm sorry she loves it like the filthy slag she is
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>>336454454

>Sammy-chan
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Hey guys, Tanabe here. Sorry if you didn't like the game, it's generally meant for people with a higher intelligence quota which doesn't bode well with the general population. I tried to kill myself in shame but my wife stopped me, then she sucked me dick in a gorilla suit and said that she'll let me sleep with whomever I want if I make another Other M.

Be ready for this year's E3, because I assure you, Miyamoto's daughter's tight pussy sure isn't.
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>>336454821
>ten fucking years later
>still no rule34 of Gandrayda
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>>336454821
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>>336454082

I'm one of them. If it helps, I played it in Japanese so I didn't have bitch Samus.
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>>336453783
Sorry for what?

No, really. What are we apologizing for?
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>>336452647

I'm sorry you exist
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>>336452647
The frustrating thing about Other M is that we still have no idea what Nintendo thinks of the backlash it got.

One on hand Sakamoto has vanished from the face of the Earth and it seems like they were forced to re-evaluate the series.

On the other hand you have Other M stuff in Smash, Other M merchandise and they cross promote Other M with other games, Team Ninja got to work on Zelda.

Do they regret making it? Do they think it was fine and that we just didn't understand it?

We'll never know.
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>2008: I think we went to far with the story in Fusion. Zero Mission is the true Metroid experience
>goes on to make Other M

wtf happened
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>>336455821
Nintendo has no shame.
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>>336455821
Well, Sonic Team acknowledged Sonic 06 in Generations, so I guess it's kinda the same?

No fucking idea why they would, but eh
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>>336456227
They also responded to 06 by making games that were actually good, at least for a little bit.

Not the case with Metroid.
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>>336452647
You apologize first.
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>>336456227
Generations managed to make something good out of 06
Smash made that gravity suit trophy
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>>336456472
That's true.

And it hurts, fuck.

>>336456513
Where's my purple suit, Ninja Theory you fucking hacks!
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>>336456556
>Where's my purple suit, Ninja Theory you fucking hacks!
They did make the purple suit though
Sakamoto told them to fuck off and put the orange suit back
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>>336456997
>"But why is she purple?"
>"Mister Sakamoto, that's the color of the Gravity Suit. In every Metroid game."
>"It looks ridiculous. Take it out."
>"....."
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>>336457376
I wonder if the reason why there's no new Metroid game is because no 3rd party in their right mind would want to work with Sakamoto after seeing what happened to Team Ninja.
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>>336452647
>Other M is bad
If it wasn't a Metroid game there would literally be no complaints about it. The story is shite and the voice acting is terrible but it plays perfectly fine (if you ignore those bullshit 'search the screen' bits don't don't even work).
It's not that bad, if it weren't for the "I'll die if I don't use my weapons, but I have to wait for this man who isn't even my boss to give me permission first" stuff it'd be absolutely 6.8/10.
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>>336458535
I swear between his hate boner for Prime and Other M, it's like the man WANTS Metroid to die.
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>>336455821
One of the fundamental tenets of business is never admit a mistake. Even if it's shit, and everyone knows it's shit, and people loudly tell them it's shit, they will never say it's shit outright.
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>>336459253
It's a 3D game using the horizontal Wiimote. It was a shitty design choice and I have no clue who's awful idea it was.

There's a whole lot more wrong, but I won't get into it.
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>>336453272

They're a direct fucking rehash of fucking Super Metroid's powers, except that the gravity suit is purple fart gas instead of a purple power suit.
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>>336460934
>I have no clue who's awful idea it was.
Yes you do
Hint: It wasn't Team Ninja's
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>>336453783
It's alright.
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>>336460921
Most people haven't played Metroid 2, not least Other M's targeted audience. Some people don't even know Metroid 2 exists.
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>>336461516
Shame cause Metroid 2 is great. AM2R is also the best 2D Metroid.
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>>336459381
Sakamoto doesn't hate Prime. He even told Retro to make more.
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>>336461653

Hydro Station best theme: https://youtu.be/nCTHtVRYBpE?t=938
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>>336460934
It's more like an experimental 2.5D game and I am upset that there are people complaining about fresh ideas
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>>336462020
It should have played on a rail like Klonoa or Kirby 64 like planned.
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>>336454163
>I stole it from a book on game design.

I hope your stole the book too and didn't pay for it, that was some horrible writing.
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>>336462020
Other M was full of new ideas because everyone else knew better than to use them.
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>>336463128
Like all the new power ups
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>>336462020
But did it have to be horizontal wiimote? Nunchuck would've worked better, I think.
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>>336459253

It wasn't even about needing permission. She was just trying to show that she can play by their rules. She even goes on to use her abilities without him giving the go ahead and makes a remark about how annoying it is.
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>>336460940
Good thing I never played Super Metroid.
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>>336464518

>"Good thing I only play shitty games."

FTFY
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>>336453926
all that text. Thank you, not
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Fuck all of you who don't like the Gravity Suit change. Samus's orange Varia Suit is too iconic. I don't want to be purple for the last third of the game.

It's like if Link was forced to wear his Zora or Goron tunic after getting it, and you'll never see him in green again. The suit turning purple when it's power is actually being used is a great idea, regardless of Sakamoto. However, it should turn the actual suit purple, Other M's was too cloud like.
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>>336454821

Rundas and Gandrayda's boss battles should have been switched. It doesn't make sense that the one member of the new hunter trio who actually seemed level headed and most similar to Samus would be corrupted first.
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>>336452647
Where's the list of developers who ruined their waifu's games?

So far I've got
>Sakamoto
>Toriyama
>Sakurai

Who else?
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>>336465668
You know what they say about the quiet ones
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>>336465096

In OoT, I always keep Link in the Zora tunic once I have it unless I absolutely have to use the Goron tunic instead. You're a cunt and should die because you don't like the same things as me.

The Gravity Suit should be purple. And if we get a Metroid after Fusion, we should also get back the Chozo Power Suit and it's upgrades because fuck the Fusion Suit.
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>>336452647
To who? Other M to me? Apology not accepted.
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>>336465984

The Gravity Suit should be purple. Just like the Zora's Tunic should be blue. But in Zelda, you actually have the CHOICE to look how you want when you don't need the power.
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>>336465984

Not gonna happen famalam. The fusion suit IS the Chozo suit. Did you even play the game?
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>>336465668

It's implied they all became corrupted at roughly the same time. Rundas is just the first one Samus runs across. Rundas is also implied to be the only one actively fighting against the corruption.
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>>336454821
>there will never be another proper Prime
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>I'll die if I don't use my stuff
>I'll be weak and do as they say, that'll show them who's boss

Holy shit. Samus is dumb.
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>>336464380
>Samus uses a missile to open a door that couldn't be opened any other way
>Adam gives her a death glare and tells her that she can't use anything of her's without strict permission from him
>all of his troops can use whatever weapons they please whenever they want

Nah, it was about Samus being a mewling little daddy's girl who still hadn't matured since the time she wanted to save Adamn's little brother from being blown up and needed a strong man to tell her how to move and act.
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The controls were shit. Pixel hunting was fucking awful. There was no BGM for most of the game, and you can't explore until post game. There's a reason it was a 10 dollar bargain bin game after a couple months. I'm sorry I wasted the bandwidth to pirate it when it leaked before launch.

The Nightmare fight was kinda cool.
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>>336466243
>Dark Samus had to take direct control of Rundas to make him fight Samus
>Ghor and Gandrayda happily become corrupted
>Rundas' battle theme is deliberately sad so you feel bad having to kill him
>other two's themes are typical boss music

Rundas confirmed best bro, he needs to be in Smash 5.
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>>336466092

Okay. So you'll accept that the Gravity Suit should actually be purple. You're alright. Don't go die yet. From memory though, LttP and LBW force you to keep the new tunics on, yeah?

>>336466215

It's what's left of the suit after surgery. Now we have the Nacho Cheese Suit after Fusion. It looks like she has pieces of the power suit and then a vat of cheese dumped on her. I do not like that. I want sleek magic space bird metal armor with pointed shoulders, green lights, upgrades for big, round pauldrons . . . At least the Nacho Cheese Suit is better than the Alien Hangover Vomit Suit that was the Fusion Suit with the Varia upgrade.
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>>336460940
Fuck off, Matt. Nobody likes you.
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>>336459253
>it plays perfectly fine
>action game with one attack and infinitely spammable dodge
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>>336466732

If they add anyone else to the Smash roster from Metroid, you fucking know it's gonna be either a mechsuit Marine from FF or Remembuh Me.
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>>336465668
Actually yeah I'd never thought about that.

The whole sequence with Gandrayda was fucking cool though, going and rescusing the GFED trooper and shit.

Prime 3 may be more linear but it had loads of sweet moments.
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>>336467153
>A cool alien from a series about space
>or some fag

Oh Nintendo.
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>>336459253

>it plays perfectly fine

>Forced to use the sideways Wii-mote for basically everything
>Have to point controller at the screen to use missiles
>Forced slow-down segments that have nothing going on.
>Pixel Hunts
>Faggot ass infinite dodge coupled with auto-aim that made every combat scenario pointlessly easy.
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Can we appreciate how good Retro are with art design for a minute?

I mean Prime 1 may have slightly generic environments, but the fact that it looks so good with so many effects running at 60fps on the fucking Gamecube in '02 is amazing. Prime 3 has all the colour of 1 with way more creative and interesting environments too, the animations are really superb as well.

DKCR was a little bland looking, but then Tropical Freeze has shitloads of layers to each level with loads of shit in the background and whatnot. Apparently they helped with the Wii U Zelda tech demo as well but idk if that's true.

Having them work on an NX project is probably the only thing that will make me buy that console. They're great artists and techno wizards.
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>>336467381

Neither should be a Smash contender, they've never been in more than 1 game.
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>>336466243
Yeah but thematically coming across him first is kinda weird.

Gandrayda first would make more sense, especially because the fake soldier thing would be way more surprising.
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>>336467601
Dark Pit, Lucina, Robin, Corrin, Shulk
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Remember when it was announced? How could anything go wrong?

How naive we were....
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>>336467509
This always cracks me up for some reason
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>>336467656

I'll give you Dark Pit, but Fire Emblem has a new cast of characters every game, that's a little different than a series that has a canon across multiple games.
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>>336467691

It could've been great.
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>>336467691
Even the year after, E3 2010, was pretty sick.

I mean half the games turned out crap but just think, they had Kirby's Epic Yarn, Epic Mickey, Other M, Kid Icarus Uprising, Skyward Sword, DKCR.

Then 2015 has an Animal Crossing board game and Fedoration Force.
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>>336453783
Daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our dicks.
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>>336467778
REMEMBUH ME
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>>336467987
sometimes

i pull so hard

ah rip th'skin
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9cr8YoeNLs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWuYpTh-foM

>a load of cutscenes
>linear hallways
>cinematic kills

We should have seen the signs
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>>336464159
They were testing out ideas. Obviously those tests didn't do so well. I thought it was nifty and I reckon it could be implemented better, but it never will and we're all probably better off.
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>>336468206

The cinematic kills aren't really intrusive. It's just running into a downed enemy with a full charge.
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>>336468268
They weren't testing shit. Sakamoto wanted the control to be Wiimote only because he wanted players to feel like they were playing the original Metroid with the NES controller, and no one and nothing would make him change his mind.
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>>336460934
>It was a shitty design choice and I have no clue who's awful idea it was.
Sakamoto's. He said Metroid Other M was meant to be "a NES game using modern technology". So as an extension of that, he barred the developers from ever using the Nunchuk, even though he admitted it would've been easier to design the game with it. He wanted the player to use the sideways wiimote like a NES controller, and thought it was so clever that you could incorporate the wagglin feature by pointing at the screen to go into 1st person. That was also his way of 'incorporating' Metroid Prime style gameplay.

No, seriously, just read the Iwata Asks interviews about Other M, if you're prepared to lose a few braincells.

>(laughs)
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>>336468425
Should have been a sign of where the priorities for the gameplay were though
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>>336466373
Retro felt 3 amazing games in a row was good enough and moved on to making amazing DK games instead.

They're 2 for 2 on that and apparently on the verge of showing some new IP.
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It has only one fan as far as I can tell.
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>>336468206
No one was doubting Metroid after all those great games, if you said "Other M is going to be shit!" people would've just shitposted you to oblivion
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>>336468481
To be fair, it sounds like a good concept on paper for a Wii game. Too bad the game is garbage.
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>>336468929
>doesn't understand Transformers

They're giant alien robots who change into awesome vehicles and animals to beat/shoot the shit out of each other, how hard is it to understand that?
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>>336468929
>I love science but can't understand math

To bad they both go hand in hand.
What a fucking idiot
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>>336469159
not only is it NOT a good concept, but the devs struggled immensely due to the severe lack of buttons they had to work with. That's why so much of the game became automatic and effortless (like dodging)-- because they didn't have enough buttons for shit.

they thought having the game do cool shit on its own was "satisfying"
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>>336452647
For ruining the greatest female figure in all of gaming?
Yeah no. :p
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>>336468929
>Furries
what a shock that Dobson doesn't understand attraction to anything that doesn't rapidly increase in mass or volume
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>>336468435
Ah, well that's just silly then. If it was part of the idea of the game itself it'd be fine, but he actually made them do that just for the sake of it? That's sort of hilarious... It's still not as bad a game as people like to think, though. It's just not anything great.
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>>336469425
>:p
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>>336469516
;)
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>>336455821

They still have Sakamoto producing games. He was a producer or director or something for Splatoon.
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>>336469415
It's funny because Kid Icarus Uprising uses pretty much the same ammount of buttons yet the combat was the tits
Different concepts, i know, but still funny
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>>336469475
No, it's still bad.

>shit characters
>shit graphics
>shit levels
>shit fighting
>shit 2.5 hour cutscenes
>shit voice-acting
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>>336469757
Well a key difference is KI:U has an actual aiming system.
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>>336454163
>I stole it from a book on game design.
Who the fuck do you think you are, James Portnow?
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>FIFTEEN fucking years later

>still no rule34 of pic related
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You know, the last time we had an Other M thread, the OP actually said "Is there anything wrong with having shit taste when all it does is allow you to enjoy more games?". Did anyone manage to find a counter for that?
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>>336452647
The IWata Asks site isn't working for some stupid reason which is a shame, cuz one of my favorite quotes during the OM interview was their discussion of Samus and the Gravity Suit.

Maybe someone has an image of it.

Sakamoto saw gravity suit samus in a cutscene and was like "who is this purple person? that looks strange".

the devs (who were newer to the company and Metroid mind you) told Sakamoto it was obviously Samus wearing the grav suit, which in their "Metroid rulebook" that Sakamoto himself set in stone back in Super Metroid days, said Grav Samus HAS to be purple.

They were so desperate to adhere to that 'rule' about purple gravity suit, that they went back and forth with sakamoto constantly trying to get his approval on some shade of purple. But he kept saying the purple suit didn't look good in his "serious cutscenes" and that she must be orange. That's what led to the Samus having pink highlights and a purple aura. That was, literally, the only compromise that Sakamoto finally agreed to.

the entire game was full of retarded shit like this. all of it leading back to Sakamoto.

like, the very CONCEPT of the entire game was "exploring samus' emotions as a woman" which according to Sakamoto means crying like a five year old and pissing her pants in fear at a monster she should've killed like 3 times at that point in the story.

i think he just flat out forgot the entire lore of the series though since he managed to contradict every single previous game.
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>>336469415
I mean, the concept of develop something like a modern NES game is really good. He fucked up with what you've pointed though. Other M was a disaster, but Sakamoto gets crucified easily, when that man is full of interesting ideas. Is just that his blunder got the Metroid brand sadly.

Wii was not only a casual console, but a nostalgia milking machine with shit like DKCR, Goldeneye, New Mario and Virtual Console. That's why i think his concept was on track. The execution was god awful.
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>>336470326
Dude, one of the first posts in the thread is the copypasta. Anybody can read Korval's article and figure that all out themselves.
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>>336453272

The only decent powerup is a 3D speedbooster.
I wanted to see it, I saw it, and then they decided to cripple it by putting speedbumps everywhere.
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>>336455821
in the iwata asks interviews they are all laughing along with sakamoto recounting his embarrassing behavior during development. they don't care. everyone involved with OM a NoJ was very proud of it.

their storyboard guy Kitaura apparently spent six months JUST drawing storyboards for the game, because he thought sakamoto's vision for the game was so "ambitious" and that conveying "samus' feelings" was a big challenge just cuz "I don't know how women think"
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>>336470381
We have several "modern NES games" already, the NSMB series. And Sakamoto rightfully deserves being crucified because ALL of the bad decisions in MOM were his.
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>>336452647
the game was shit
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>>336471097
It's funny because people still blame Team Ninja because of Sakamoto's shitty decisions.
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>>336471198
Literally who still believes that? Every single person who ever talks about it save for fucking Croshaw acknowledges Team Ninja as ancillary.
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Fusion and Other M are my favorite metroid games.

Fight me.
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>>336471198
Because people are still angry at TN for being a company known for making sexy women, which is a very bad and evil thing don't'cha know.
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>>336467509
I have really weird feelings about this image's comparisons

While the concept art for the Prime games is great, it does seem a little superfluous compared to making some simpler concepts that better illustrate the object's role in the game. But at the same time, Prime didn't suffer from having the artists work too much on concept art at all.
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>>336456498


seems like paper mario would have gone to shit no matter what since the director was apparently eager to drop the RPG elements and character growth all along.

he cited fucking Tingle Rupeeland (where you solve problems with money) as his inspiration to remove XP/lvls for "gathering stronger stickers" instead.

nintendo's old guard going off their fucking rockers one by one
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>>336471491
1v1 me on Fightcade, Garou or KoF98
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>>336468929
Movie Bob also loves other M, in fact it seems that other M is a great indicator for objectively shit taste.
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>>336453024
Good image, but "hid" isn't a word. You're looking for "hidden"
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>>336471491
Fusion was good, though. Why do you like Other M?
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>>336471767
And Juan Ortiz was surprisingly generous for no good reason.

Really, why the fuck do we have his video in the copypasta? He doesn't add anything to the conversation.
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>>336452647
I'm still angry.

I will always be angry.
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>>336453024
Better version
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>>336471927

I thought it had good gameplay, controls, and had good meaningful characters.
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>>336471557
>Miyamoto hates story
>Miyamoto hates variety
>Miyamoto hates humor
>Miyamoto hates anything that's too "complex"

I love you, man, but it's time for you to retire and let the youngbloods take over. You've become too old and too stubborn.
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Has a developer ever apologized for fucking up a sequel and/or franchise?

Wait, I think whoever made Final Fantasy XVI did, but I can't come up with any other examples at the moment.
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I don't think I authorised you to make this thread, anon
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>>336472110
no man all you need is to beat the final boss at the end of the game and it still counts as an rpg. miyamoto's been making games for 30 years so he must be totally infallible :^)
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>>336472181
Remember when he gave you free missiles in the Zero Mission manga?
Those were good times
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>>336472101
>good gameplay
Come back when you've played Devil May Cry.

>controls

You're being forced to play a modern action game with a fucking NES controller.

>good meaningful characters

.............................I'm not even going to respond to that one. I'm sure any statement I make will be followed by a cringeworthy rebuttal.
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>>336471545
While superfluous there's an indication that they cared. All those sketches of Samus, especially the ones where it compares her in and out of the suit, show that they were bouncing off ideas, trying to make the suit work in a 3D enviroment.

Look at the Flaggrah and the Parasite Queen concept, they look amazing and were very well transplanted into the game.

Meanwhile in Other M you have
>yo
>monster that opens mouth really wide I guess
>BLACK MAN
>a blob
>re-rashed Super Metroid wall enemy
>furby
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>>336472171

Sacred 3
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>>336466373
You DO realize that they have been reminding everyone they have plans for the next Prime game for years, right? It's mentioned any time anyone whines about Fed Force.
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>>336472468

>hating sideways Wiimote
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>>336472728
>they have plans for the next Prime game for years
I'll believe that when I see it.
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>>336472101
At least try
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>>336472790

Sideways wiimote works OK for a 2D game.
Movement in 3D with a d-pad does not work.
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>>336472790
It's fine for a side-scroller. Imagine playing God of War or Devil May Cry with an NES controller.
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>>336472790
Well, excuuuuuuuuuse me for being "spoiled" by Metroid Prime's perfect functionality.
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>>336468929
>Samus can have emotions and still kick ass
BUT SHE DIDN'T KICK ASS. THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

SHe put herself in self harming, life threatening, stupid situations because some man didn't "authorize" her to kick ass. She saw Ridley and literally had a mental breakdown instead of kicking ass. She had to stop in the middle of combat and stand perfectly still while attempting to kick ass with missiles.
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>>336472818
Then there is no convincing you and you are literally whining about nothing.
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>>336472984
Ignoring for a second that that's Andrew fucking Dobson, I wouldn't say she had emotions, either. All she fucking did was act like a character from a bad fanfic: have no emotions in conversation or monologue, and cry whenever the author felt like it.
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>>336472984

She agreed to work with the federation and by their rules.

Her integrity to stick with it shows a strong will.

Also, Ridley is supposed to be dead and she just found out that they were being bred there. Anyone would freak out at the realization that there could be a ton of Ridleys out there now.
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>>336472728
We have to buy his new game fampais.
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>>336473225
>Her integrity to stick with it shows a strong will.
Being boiled alive because someone doesn't trust you to not be boiled alive isn't integrity, it's suicide and self loathing.

>Also, Ridley is supposed to be dead
He was supposed to be dead multiple times at that point.

>Anyone would freak out at the realization that there could be a ton of Ridleys out there now.
No. In any other game, Samus would have just been all the more resolved to finish the fucker.
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>>336473225
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13373815860B43920100&i_id=13378783790I03420200&p=9
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>>336473245
Good thing I have 5 friends that think the game looks like it could be fun. The 6 of us will have a good time, even if we're the only 6 who get the game.
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>>336473225
>She agreed to work with the federation and by their rules.

She was glared at by daddy and immediately turned back into a whimpering little girl so he wouldn't be angry at her.

>Her integrity to stick with it shows a strong will.

Being submissive to daddy =/= integrity.

>Also, Ridley is supposed to be dead and she just found out that they were being bred there. Anyone would freak out at the realization that there could be a ton of Ridleys out there now.

They didn't know that little bird thing was Ridley, and she's kicked his ass five times before MOM and was perfectly fine.
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>>336473517

I'll never understand why she would deactivate her suits. The whole issue was that her weapons could damage the ship and get them all killed. A cooling system isn't going to do that.
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>>336470323
If you're happy with a 4 then you cannot truly appreciate a 9.
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>>336473893
>>336473517
This 1000 times about the suits. The fact that Adam "didn't trust her" to have fully functional defenses shows how absolutely shitty the writing is.
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Samus was worse in Fusion than Other M
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Other M was the worst kind of bad because it gave people an easy way to feel smart.
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>>336474183

I don't think Adam even thought about her defensive capabilities when he made the order.

Samus was just being a woman and misunderstood.
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>>336472728
And Sakamoto said he still have plans for Metroid Fusion's sequel (which we still haven't seen), your point?
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I thought the phantoon fight was pretty cool
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>>336474354
Tanabe has actually talked about plot details and other people being on board, and he has spoken of it multiple times. Sakamoto just said "oh, yeah, totally gonna do that thing some day, just you wait," once when asked.
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>>336474473
It was a neat appearance, but the fight was, like all others, auto-dodge into instant charge shot x99.
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>>336474525
Sakamoto stated that personifying Samus important for future Metroid games.
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>>336474342
Adam told he she doesn't do ANYTHING without his say-so. No activating any of her systems until he deems it, no going anywhere until he tells her to, nothing. And since Samus in MOM is a daddy's girl desperately seeking his approval to atone for being a rebellious teen, she follows his orders without question.

Also, anyone else pissed that the "hurr Adam is her daddy" thing shits all over the Chozo, who were the ones who raised her to adulthood? Sakamoto can't even keep his own material in canon.
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>>336452647
Apologize to this 5
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>>336476125
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I'm sorry that this game put the franchise on life support.

Now let's see if Fed Force can put it out of its misery.
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>>336475215
So much for those plans. Samus will likely be a glorified multiplayer bot in Federation Force.
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>>336459253
Do you remember all those bland games released in 2010 that ended up in a bargain bin? Well, that's were Other M is right now, and it would be in a way worse position if it wasn't a Metroid game.
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>>336477440
Who ever said he was done with Metroid? Man may be taking a break from it doesn't mean he won't return to it.
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>>336475756

She was part of the federation.

You wouldn't last a week in a military environment.
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>>336478201
WAS. She WAS. Now she's a freelance bounty hunter, he had no control over her. She jumped under his dick because she didn't want daddy to be mad at her anymore when she saw how angry he was for showing up at the BOTTLE Ship..
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>>336478485

You realize they would have had to turn on her, and she would have become a criminal, right?
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>>336452647
It wasn't that bad desu senpai
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>>336452647
Not before Sakamoto does.
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>>336478562

Yes, they would've turned on a woman who is capable of destroying entire planets on her own and is probably the only person on the ship who couldn't be the traitor just because she decided to use heat shields during a volcanic section of the ship.

Actually, y'know what, I'm not even sad that most of them got killed by the deleter.
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>>336479185

She could have easily been the traitor, and the whole heat suit issue was her own fault. She could have at least called Adam and requested the use of it.
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>there's people who actually defend MOM
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>>336479287

You don't ask a S.O. for permission, you follow orders.
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>>336479842

In the field, if you need something, you make a request.
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>>336479287
If she asked him something, it would be like when she was begging and crying to him to let her rescue his brother, which she was very ashamed of.
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You know the GFed came off as noble if a bit overstretched in Prime 3. Why did Other M portray them as Weyland fucking Yutani?
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So did Samus and Adam's Brother fuck?
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>>336480523

Because Fusion did it.
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>>336480523
Because it's the prequel to Fusion,where the Federation was cloning Metroids as bioweapons... wait a minute.
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>tfw Metroid was my favorite franchise of all time
>tfw given up on it and moved onto star wars

>tfw finally happy and getting new quality content
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>>336480924
They weren't just cloning Metroids. They were cloning Mother Brain and her Space Pirates.
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>>336481087

>Space Pirates do nothing but screw themselves over with awful biological experimentation
>GFed clone Space Pirates AND Metroids
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>>336481205
Why would they clone space pirates?
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>>336481281
Shock Troops.
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>>336481205

Game where Pirates clone Federation soldiers, the Federation clones Pirates, and the Metroids clone themselves when?
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Honestly Samus looks good with Short Hair.
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>>336481480
Metroids already clone themselves
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>>336453926
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>>336476125
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>>336454454
Black High Cut Two Piece>Zero Suit.
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Post more Samus.
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metroid is a pretty cool guy desu
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>>336452647
Other M was good. It's just feminists that hate it because it actually gave Samus a cute personality instead of being one of the generic Strong Female Characters that they're trying to force everywhere.
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>>336482783
Heres your reply. I'm not sure if freezing with fear while Ridley is curbstomping your friend qualifies as cute.
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>>336467452
>Faggot ass infinite dodge coupled with auto-aim that made every combat scenario pointlessly easy.
>Have to point controller at the screen to use missiles
this is all a compromise due to the forced sideways wiimote not offering enough buttons
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Yes, an apology from Nintendo would be nice.
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>>336466656
Holy shit this.
>half of /v/ calling Other M garbage when it cokes out
>wonder how a Metroid game could possibly be shit and assume it's just shitposting because it's a Wii game
>pirate it just in case
I almost fucking dropped it at the first pixel hunt, and again when you had to look at the Birdie thing or whatever. I never did finish it. Maybe I'll get drunk and play it again one night.
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Samus was always supposed to be an anime waifu it's just that she's supposed to be an 80's anime waifu and not whatever the fuck Other M was going for.
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>>336483616
That doesn't make it good.
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>>336468929
>can't even wait patiently
is he like, five ?
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>>336485117
Nothing about OM was good, I'm just saying that because Sakamoto was adamant not to use the nunchuk, the controls had to be fucked with just to make the game playable at all.
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