What is the best weapon for 40 DEX? Currently using Uchigatana
Sharp Dark Sword.
Sharp Dark Sword.
sharp morning star
>>336443794
>>336443884
Am I being memed?
>>336443560
Poise is not coming back is it
Estoc
>>336444005
doubt it
>>336443794
>>336443884
It's pretty meta in here
>>336444035
Why not remove the stat entirely for players then. What's the point of it just being there and doing nothing?
sharp estoc, sharp Washing Pole (dat range)
Refined dark sword and get 40 strength too
>>336443560
just find a weapon that scales at a c with dex and make it sharp
you unimaginative cuck
Longsword, Darksword, Lothric Knight Sword, Irithyl Sword, Gotthard Twinswords, Estoc, Carthus Sword, Carthus Greatsword, Claymore, Hollowslayer Greatsword, Chaos Blade.
Apply Sharp infusion whenever needed.
>>336444124
I wish I could answer that
What's with all this sharp memeing?
>>336443560
Sunlight straight sword
Farron greatsword has A
It also has a spin2win attack which fucking murders gankers with my 500 base dmg
>>336443560
Hollow slayers great sword
>>336444223
>guy has 40 DEX
>sharp increases scaling with DEX
>apparently that's a meme
Sharp Longsword, though if you go for a quality build and also bump STR to 40 you'll get more out of the weapon with a Refined Infusion.
>>336444124
So the wolf ring can be in for lore
>>336444290
How much does it affect the scaling?
>>336444579
enough that it's always an improvement once your dex is over 30 (unless your strength is over 15 in which case Refined is probably better)
pretty much, if it is possible to infuse a weapon then it is always better to infuse it with something. There's no advantage to the normal path
>>336443560
Sharp Exile Greatsword.
With 24 str (min needed to wield 1 handed), 40 dex, it has 545 AR at +10.
Only downside is that it weighs a shit ton
>>336444676
>There's no advantage to the normal path
unless you want to infuse with raw above a certain point
>>336444579
> slightly lowers base damage
> lowers STR scaling
> hugely boosts DEX scaling
If you've got 40 Dex and not much STR it's the best infusion for a weapon, if you've got a bit over 20 STR though Refined usually comes out on top.
40/40 Refined [Your favourite weapon] is the best build in the game.
>>336444124
People claim it still affects super armor and rolling and potentially other stuff.
There is one particual application of poise that is not in game, but it hasn't been proven that it has no effect.
Of course whatever effect it does have is pretty minuscule.
>>336444783
You can infuse anything with anything (except twinkling and boss weapons), and changing an infusion keeps its upgrade level, so there's no downside whatsoever.
Making something Raw at the start of the game when you have low stats, and then making it Heavy/Sharp/Refined once you've gotten your STR/DEX up to a level where it is better than Raw is the optimal way to do damage. The game gives you so many Raw gems there's no reason not to do this.
>>336444861
It has been proven, it turns out the stuff affecting stagger recovery and roll-whatever was equip load. Poise does absolutely nothing.
Is there a place that can help me learn to make builds? I suck with the knowledge in this and get lost with everything
I upgraded Ricard's Rapier to +10, what should I infuse it with?
I haven't respec'd yet, so I can definitely do it. Right now I'm on a quality build, but I'd like to use this weapon for now.
>>336445187
>I'm on a quality build
>what should I infuse it with?
You don't even know where the term "quality build" comes from, yet you keep using it.
How much vitality's a good rule of thumb?
>>336445319
No, I'm saying that right now, I'm using a quality build, and have used weapons fit for that build.
I want to infuse it with something that will bring out it's full potential, and am willing to respec to do it. But by all means, keep the autist act going.
>>336445187
refined, or possibly bleed
I haven't tried it but presumably the rapid fire attack should build up a lot of bleed from all the hits
>>336445014
I wish I had taken notice of this. I went with old school way and avoided raw early on. The system looked like it was from DeS/DaS rather than DaS2 so I assumed you couldn't change the weapon path you chose.
Still wish there were more refined gems available. For a lot of weapons quality gets really good really fast, something like 15/15 which you might go for simply for some stat requirements.
>>336445412
Enough for your fashion.
Honestly armor doesn't do a lot for pvp this time, but you HAVE to fill every slot or you recieve extra damage.
>>336445412
between 10 and 15. Light metal armor like Knights Armor is useful, but the heavier stuff gives no real benefit.
Get your vigor up to 30 though
Sharp ghrus rotten curve sword
>>336444861
In havels and smough armour undead settlement mob still stunned me on hit
Are quality builds viable in DaS3 or am I better off going either STR/DEX?
>>336445674
Been considering this
Also, is there any real benefit to double downing on a status effect for a weapon? Like Bleed Warden Blades or Poison Rotten Curve Sword? What about if you cross them up, and infuse poison to a bleed weapon? Effective, or waste of time?
>>336445785
Yes, refined infusion is better for most weapons than heavy/sharp, except the heaviest ones.
>>336445835
>Also, is there any real benefit to double downing on a status effect for a weapon?
No, absolutely not. The bonus aux effect you get is pathetically low and it prevents the weapon from being enchanted.
Infuse with pure physical gems for max damage, and then apply bleed/poison resins to double the aux effect efficiency.
>>336445785
If your opposing stat is over 15, go refined because it gives the biggest benefit.
Otherwise, if you're going 40/10 or some shit, stick with whatever infusion boosts your build (heavy/sharp).
>>336445835
poison is completely fucking worthless because the damage is tiny
Bleed effect is great, but bleed infusion is bad because you can't use Carthus Rouge on a weapon with bleed infusion. Also, bleed infusion just increases bleed damage, it doesn't make bleed build up faster. It's generally a crap infusion.
If a weapon has innate bleed, it's better to make it a Hollow weapon, because bleed buildup is based on your Luck stat, and hollow weapons increase your luck stat.
>tfw no Frost infusion
why would you add a frost status effect and only use it on 4 weapons
>add a frost infusion
>add frozen pine resin
>add frost magic and cold pyromancies
is that so hard
>>336446089
also, if you're using a bleed weapon use Carthus Rouge all the time.
>>336445835
status infusions are worthless
just go heavy/sharp/refined/hollow for damage
>>336446183
DLC
L
C
>>336446226
Dumb question, does the lingering dragoncrest ring extend the duration?
Anyone knows any good chaos weapons? I know most straight swords, save for Astora's, scale B/B. But I don't want to be an R1 spamming shitter.
I keep reading about Great Sword of Astora, but the fucking thing has a terribke moveset and eats through my paltry stamina in two swings. I may go with Murakumo or the Hand Axe.
>>336446241
Bleed still has some value since the burst damage from the buildup can be dangerous.
Poison is worthless since it's not toxic, which even then still isn't as dangerous as I remember it being in Dark Souls 1.
>>336446315
I think so. It certainly works for Carthus flame arc.
![frostclump[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/StU9uFX.jpg "frostclump[1].jpg")
>>336446183
I felt the same way. Same for toxic, why can't players use toxic at all? Why is there an item for curing frost buildup when only a tiny amount of things use frost?
Then again, we're talking about a game where three rings are dedicated to increasing poise and a shield has a special effect of increasing poise but poise does literally nothing at all
If you use the sharp gem, can you still use the pine resins?
>>336446317
don't use a weapon and main Great Chaos Fire Orb.
>>336446395
Yes, only elemental infusions prevent using buffs I think
>>336446395
Yes
I like the Falchion
The Falchion doesn't like dropping, though
>>336446351
I'm doing a playthrough with a friend while dressing up as the Dancer, but using a bleed warden twinblade build. Any recommendations for a sl80 and sl120 build?
I'm at 25/10/25/20/20/10/8/10 so far, but it seems to do kinda underwhelming without hollow.
>>336446395
Yes.
Straight damage infusions generally will allow you to still buff your shit. Status or element infusions will ruin that for you.
Go raw/heavy/sharp/refined/hollow.
>>336446387
Don't poop clumps cause toxin
>>336446351
carthus rouge more than makes up the difference, and you dont sacrifice damage
>>336446486
>>336446463
>>336446459
thanks lads
Goddamn I need to get this game! Is DEX an actually respectable build choice? Or is it left in the dust?
>>336446476
>while dressing up as the Dancer
Absolutely disgusting.
>>336446467
Use the storm curved sword instead. It's basically a bigger falchion with an inescapable 3 hit combo.
>>336446387
Wait, are you saying literally nothing or nothing in PvP? My brother told me it has no impact in PvP so I've been putting all of these mentions in that context, but if it's absolutely nothing, then hoo boy will he be mad.
>>336445991
>>336445912
>15
Whoa, I didn't expect it to be that low.
>>336446476
start putting all of your level ups into Luck, get it Hollow as soon as possible but until then Refined is fine.
Use Carthus Rouge if you ever fight a strong enemy (you get 5 per level so be careful) and spam the spin weapon art. The full spin should proc bleed, maybe even a couple times.
>>336446541
Go quality or go gimmick, son.
The damage difference is too great.
>>336446584
Poise is currently disabled in DS3. Hyper armour is the only stagger resist, unless you count two-hits-then-you-can-roll.
I'm going to assume it applies to this thread but I've decided to restart Dark Souls 1 after only playing a bit of it years ago.
Are Dex builds any good? What about specifically the rapiers? I just love rapiers, but they are shit in a lot of games
>>336446541
Dex is top tier.
>>336446541
It's not as overpowered as in Dark Souls 1 but the bonus is that, since you can infuse mostly any weapon to sharp you can use very wide array of weapons even if they don't have a strong dex scaling from get go.
>>336446550
Fuck your shitty taste. I'm graceful, beautiful, and secretly jerky on the inside. It's everything anyone could ever hope for.
>>336446528
Yeah but you get the buildup too
>use a Heavy Greataxe
>pretty good damage
>heard that Yhorm's Great Machete is a better Great Axe
>it's not
>try Dragonslayer Greataxe now
>it shits out damage
now if only its skill was as OP as Morne's Greathammer
>>336446639
Estoc is considered to be in the top five PvP weapons. Katanas have retarded ghost range. Several dex leaning great and ultra great swords.
It's pretty neat.Quality builds only
>>336446640
YES! I love Dex builds. Especially fucking people over with the dual tracers in DS1.
too bad its the only DS game I got
>>336446317
onikiri and ubadachi
>>336446584
tell your brother to put on all of his heaviest gear with the best poise and see if he can attack through a hit from literally any enemy while swinging a longsword. Maybe a hollow or dog outside Firelink.
There is a form of poise; if a heavy weapon like a greatclub or greatsword is swung, then you can take a few hits without staggering, but this is completely unrelated to armor, you can do it naked.
The stat on your stat screen, "poise", does literally nothing at all. No stagger mechanic exists anywhere in the game that's different between a guy in full havels or a guy who's buck ass naked. All armor does in DS3 is reduce damage
>>336445106
Anyone?
>>336446627
what is gimmick?
>>336443794
>>336443884
In all seriousness, putting Sharp on a Dark Sword is absolutely useless, even for a quality build.
>>336446317
>Murakumo
Do not use that thing. The Exile Curved Greatsword is better than it in literally every way.
>>336446713
>Estoc is considered to be in the top five PvP weapons
I remember getting the estoc almost immediately at the beginning of the game and had no idea if it was good or not. Is it still considered good for PvE? Or just PvP?
>>336446590
Not everyone starts with at least 10 dex or so making it a bit higher requirement for some classes.
With weapons like Dark Sword it doesn't make any sense to go sharp though since the weapon requires 16 STR in the first place. Or maybe it does make sense to go sharp at 16/40, but at 16/18 refined was still better for me.
Recommend me a fun build for ng+ that's not quality or 60int. Oh I also already did dex/fth with lightning and dragonslayer sword spear, it's fun, try it
>>336446787
It's good for PvE, but it absolutely bugs the shit out of everyone in PvP because of its genuinely retarded ghost range. Anyone who's not a complete idiot will be able to parry you, but anyone else (and there are a lot of anyone elses) will just die to your insane range and 999999999999999999 pokes per stamina bar.
>>336446787
Not as good for pve, because some mobs in the game actually do have working poise, unlike players.
>>336446757
>fextralife
i got memed
>>336446846
Luck build.
>>336446387
Why aren't there frost urns, magic urns and dark urns only lightning urns and firebombs?
I mean the skeletons in Carthus throw dark bombs at you.
>>336446848
>>336446885
I want to reiterate that I'm starting up Dark Souls 1, not 3
Was poise a factor in 1?
>>336444005
Made me uninstall actually. It affects so many things in the game, it's not even funny.
Armor is basically useless.
Vit is a dumpstat.
Trash mobs stunlock you endlessly.
R1 spam is the most efficient pvp strategy.
Heavy weapons are a chore to use.
Etc.
>>336446963
Oh. Yes, Poise is THE factor in Dark Souls 1, full Havel's and you'll never be staggered again.
How good are sharp Drang Hammers for a dex build?
>>336446745
Here's your optimal Dark Souls 3 build guide:
Vigor: Always put this at 30 regardless of what build you are doing
Vit: level this until your preferred fashion statement keeps you below 70% equip load. Never level above 15
Endurance: put any leftover levels here up to 30
Str/Dex/int/faith/luck: If you're weapons scales with it, put it at 40, otherwise leave at the minimum
Luck: Keep at minimum
bam, done
>>336447020
>30 Vigor
You mean 27 for that sweet dead 1,000/1,300.
The scaling also dies after 27.
>>336447004
They're not. Maracas are exclusively quality or strength.
>>336447020
I get confused with gems, scaling etc
>>336445078
I've been tanking hits no problem. I noticed that poise does nothing when you're just standing, but I've never been stunned out of an attack with a UGS.
>>336446748
Generally means some super specialized build meant to do one thing really well. Mostly goofy as fuck, such as poison only or pyro/fisticuffs or some shit.
If you're going with 40 in one stat (Dex or Str), and your second stat hits 15, upgrading your weapon to be Refined will give you WAY more damage. Most people just go with refined because they need 15 (or more) of the second stat to wield their weapon of choice. Only go Heavy (Str) or Sharp (Dex) if your build is 40/14 or lower.
>>336446963
Fuck yes it was. There was a reason Giantdads and Flipping Havels were such problems/fun. Poise out the ass made it so they could literally walk into attacks and still get a swing off.
>>336447020
>Luck: Keep at minimum
You mean level to 40 if you are doing bleed build.
Also, dex and faith at 40 is fucking stupid. Need that shit to 60 if you want any damage from it.
Anyone try the dancer blades? What's a good build for those
If they're bad I'll make a moonlight sword character instead and hope that a Lothric Knight Sword will drop and tide me over until then.
>>336447020
>30
Why 30? Such an arbitrary point to stop at.
>>336447084
GS and UGS attacks have hyper armor
hyper armor is the only form of stagger resist in the game. You are not dealing with poise, it's a separate mechanic.
>>336447084
that's called hyper armor. It has fuck all to do with poise.
>>336447159
dancer blades are horribly bad. They're arguably the worst weapon in the game besides the broken straight sword
>>336443560
Why do you ask?
Are you gonna try a 1-hit bosses run?
If not, why don't you just choose a weapon with a moveset that you like?
I use the rapier, and it's probably just a short Estoc, but I picked it up randomly and fell in love with it.
>>336447174
Diminishing returns.
The difference between 29 and 30 points of vigor is larger than the difference between 30 and 31.
>>336447174
that's because I picked it arbitrarily
honestly I usually stop at 27 because 1000 hp is a nice round number
>>336447206
What are they like at 40/40/40/40?
>>336447141
>dex and faith
Welp, that was meant to be int and faith.
>>336447159
Dancer swords will work with anything, seeing as the have D scaling all-around. They require 20 dex tho
What is the funnest weapon?
>>336447185
>>336447203
Wasn't poise the thing that kept you from being staggered in DaS? It seems to me that the mechanic has simply been changed. My dex build also didn't get staggered in attacks with the wolf ring on, do dancers swords also have hyper armor?
>>336446743
>The stat on your stat screen, "poise", does literally nothing at all. No stagger mechanic exists anywhere in the game that's different between a guy in full havels or a guy who's buck ass naked. All armor does in DS3 is reduce damage
This is my first Souls game. How in the fuck does a game ship with such a glaring oversight like that? Did previous Souls have retardedly obvious flaws like this? I thought these were supposed to be top tier games
>>336447273
Horrible. The reason is that split damage works differently this time and as a result they're shit.
>>336447273
Shit.
triple damage type fucks them over bad.
Feel free to use them if you like them though. It is not like they are unusable.
>>336447337
Split damage is the same as always.
>>336447273
their scaling is D/D/D/D
even a Chaos Sellsword Twinblades is better since it's E/C/C/C
and your damage is being split 3 ways, which means it's going through damage absorption three times
>>336447321
Yes, it was. But poise hasn't been enabled since the last game. The mechanic has not been changed, hyper armor is confirmed a totally separate thing.
If the weapon class doesn't have "great" in it, it doesn't have hyper armor (excluding greatscythes)
>>336447263
By that logic you should stop at 26. There's no reason to stop at 30 specifically. Is it just because of your autistic need to stop on a multiple of ten?
>>336447302
Anything with a goofy as fuck weapon art or unique attack.
Tokyo drift sword, curved wolf sword, and carthis curved greatsword are a blast to catch people with.
You could also grab a mace and POISEKNIGHT your way to victory, same with using the ceastus (good luck with that), as they both have weapon arts that temporarily give you working poise. No one is really used to doing PvP against actual poise so you'll catch people by surprise.
>>336443560
>>rolling dex/pyro
>found the white hair talisman
>invade archdragon peak
>go to the wooden bridge
>force.png
>>336447419
>If the weapon class doesn't have "great" in it, it doesn't have hyper armor
Not true. The weapon art on warden twinblades for example has hyper armor.
>>336446351
I like infusing poison into weapons that already have bleed. Yeah it doesn't deal all that much damage but I mostly like it just to see how much damage I've done to an opponent. And if the fight draws out long enough, it could add up to an extra R1 or even 2.
>>336447419
I was using dancer armor and a wolf ring and never got staggered out of my L1 combos.
>>336447321
the only effect that Wolf Ring has on the game is using up one of your ring slots. A lot of random attacks have hyper armor, especially pretty much all Weapon Arts have some armor.
>>336447329
It's clear that it was a last minute decision to remove poise. They didn't have time to redesign and redo the art for the status screen or to deal with details like items that increase poise
at least weapon arts that grant poise still work
>>336447517
Like it's been said. Poise from armor or rings doesn't effect staggering, whether the weapon has attacks with hyper armor does.
>>336447517
some stuff has super armor attached to it (ie: Morne's Greathammer's skill has basically infinite super armor) which is totally separate from poise's super armor.
>>336443794
>>336443884
Utter scrubs
Sharp Estoc.
>>336447493
Right, okay.
A bunch of weapon skills in the game have hyper armor but it's a pain to list them all out. I really just wanna keep it to basic shit like r1 spam.
>>336446714
You're only missing out on Demon's Souls and maybe Bloodborne really.
>>336444223
>Sharp improves Dex scaling
>Lets you buff weapons with resins and shit
It's not just a meme if its legit good for damage you
I like using bleed twin daggers on my dex guy, i rush in, slice the shit out of them and roll away to regen stamina.
with a grass crest shield on my back and a cloranthy ring it makes for some fun rush down maneuvers
>>336447459
>Tokyo drift sword
?
>>336447836
The Farron Greatsword.
>Loved the Life Hunt Scythe in ds1
>Farmed for an hour to get the Corvan Scythe
>It's shit
God damnit ds3. Why is every fucking medium weapon trash in this game.
>>336447929
Scythes are especially horrifically bad compared to all other weapons. It's their low damage paired with some of the slowest attacks in the game, range be damned.
>>336447987
It also feels like it builds bleed slower than my other bleed weapons. So it doesn't even have that.
>>336447439
there's an autistic need to have around 1100 HP or slightly less if you intend to tank a single r1-r1 combo from an exile greatsword or something
>>336443560
>tfw you realized he is wearing the Elite Knight armor that got melted and warped from the flame
>>336447876
Thanks bruh.
I gotta remember this shit for my PVP character, right now I'm just trying to get all the trophies.I know, I know
>>336443560
>DEX
Buy a dildo while you're at it and sodomize yourself with it.
>>336446963
Poise is absolute in Dark Souls 1 but so are stunlocks. If you don't get staggered you only take damage, but if you do get staggered you can be easily stunlocked in place especially in PvP. Without toggleescape the PvP would be just stunlock rush.
The way it works is pretty simple, weapons like straight swords for example drain 20 poise per 1HR1, and if you have poise of 21 or higher you don't get staggered by that. After 1 second of not taking any hits, poise is instantly refilled.
It's generally recommended to have at least 31 poise for PvP but it mostly depends on what weapon your opponent is using.
>>336447987
not to mention they have a sweet spot for damage whereas other weapon classes do not.
>>336448129
>STRfags
>>336448129
Quality is the cancer this time around.
>>336447398
You could buff it in Dark Souls II so it was actually better than flat physical most of the time, especially since physical defense could be stacked so high.
>>336448202
how so?
>>336448129
taste my blade and die in hell!
*cuts open your throat and lets a spray of your blood paint the walls red*
pshh
>>336448247
Highest damage for the investment.
>>336448330
isnt that a good thing?
>>336448330
Well, yeah. That's always been how quality works.
If you think 40/40 should be weaker than 50/10 then you're a fucking moron.
>>336448247
>>336448330
it's more that vitality, faith, luck, attunement and intelligence are all dogshit stats outside specific meme builds. quality builds are outright the best at around SL95-120 range because everything else is garbage. at SL80, you can do other builds, like pumping vigor, end and dex and using a chaos blade and do well against quality builds.
quality builds haven't been good in the past because weapon buffs and other stuff has been better. but now magic and weapon buffs are dogshit so quality builds are good
>>336448380
>>336448405
Not highest damage, that's not the problem.
It just flat out gives more damage per level than other paths due to how high it brings the scaling, rendering other builds useless in relation.
see >>336446757 for example.
>Be PvE Co-op guy
>Use Estoc because it looks cool
>Can't kick
>MFW
Is there any point to that backstep-poke? If I want to get out of the way, I'll roll. If want to poke, I'll poke.
>>336448712
It's all right for the weapon to have some downsides, it's powerful as fuck even PvE-wise. You can just restun a lot of enemies and keep infinitely spamming at them with it.
Imagine if Dark Sword had Longsword's moveset for example.
>>336448579
>using the Dark Sword as an example of anything
The Dank Sword is OP as fuck. That's not an issue with quality, it's an issue with unbalanced bullshit weapons and cookie cutter tryhard builds.
Honestly the real problem is >>336448479. In terms of PvP there are like three or four stats that are actually worthwhile and the rest are shit. At least in DaS2 sorcery and hexes made intelligence and faith worth stat investments. In this game sorcery and miracles are garbage, meaning that the only viable PvP builds are quality since the only place that's worth pumping those points into is strength and dexterity.
Quality isn't stronger. Everything else is trash.
What's a good weapon to use once i'm near the end of Irithyll?
I've been using the Wolnir Holy Sword so far but i'm sure the boss weapons aren't the best stuff to be using right?
>>336448073
From what I've read, Bleed is tied to Luck in this game, making the more viable bleed builds require a weapon with innate bleed, Hollow infusion and 35~40 Luck
>>336448823
Yeah, but seeing that guy with that oh-so-kickable shield still bugs the hell out of me. I'll just have to pony up the titanite for a secondary.
>>336449030
It has innate bleed. It's the Life Hunt Scythe.
But why is a weapon that causes you to build bleed on yourself as well, weaker than weapons that doesn't. From fucked up bad with weapon balance in this game.
>>336448950
Are you going to claim that longsword is OP as fuck next?
Or do we just accept the fact that quality > dex/str in all situations?
>>336449124
they don't really expect you to use scythes and caestus and stuff like that i think. everyone at FROMsoft just uses katanas or straight swords
I got the Bloolust Katana for a fun build I wanna do, should I just pump points into Luck and Dex? How much into Luck do I go?
>>336448479
Why do people meta at such high levels anyway? I could do with level 70 in stats at best and still have all I wanted.
>>336449225
The best meta is at 60 anyway because then you get called to defend Aldrich.
>>336448950
It would be okay for how everything else is kinda weak now that players in PvP have HP closer to 1,000 than 2,000 like in DaS1 and DaS2. Nerfing quality would make PvE unnecessarily hard though, it already is on the tougher side.
>>336449164
Of course quality is better than dex/str in almost every circumstance. You are investing twice as many stat points. 30/30 quality is going to ne stronger than 50 str or dex due to how scaling works.
And longswords have always been tippity top tier. Are you going to claim that straight swords aren't fucking ridiculous? They've been that way since Demon's Souls.
>>336449225
End and Vig to 40 and pick two out of the Dex, int, str, fth to bring to 40 and that's basically it.
>>336446317
>Astora GS
>Terrible moveset
Its moveset is the best part. The weapon art if timed properly can punish everybody. Just don't spam it. The roll r1s have 100 bonus damage for some reason and are pretty fast. The roll r2s have good range, perfect for other ugs users. Other than that it has mostly the same zwei moveset. The attack rating is pretty good once you reach higher sl. The stamina usage is the same as any other ugs as far as I know.
>>336447987
Scythes were in such a good balance in DaS1, they had excellent damage and reach but they were easy enough to dodge but had a pretty well varied moveset to balance it out.
Fuck ENB and his "Best DEX weapon" trash. He also overstates how good BSS is, which was actually extremely balanced weapon.
More and more people are parry spamers, I need a good STR weapon that cannot be parried and doesn't require much of a investement in stats.
I've been using the Exile GCS, but it's only good when you have enough FP to meme spin2win and I pretty sure two-handed r1's can be parried
>>336449348
>You are investing twice as many stat points.
No you aren't. Refined gives higher damage at 16/40 than sharp at those same stats, even though refined is supposed to be the best once you really have put enough oomph into both stats instead of just one.
It's okay for a quality build to be better than dex build if you compare builds where you've put 50 points total into quality and 30 points total into dex, but refined already beats out a build that has 30 invested evenly vs 30 put into dex.
It's not "better if you invest more", it's just "better" whether you invest more or not.
>>336449562
Parry timing in pvp seems easier than ever in this game.
>>336449562
Great Club is always fun. It takes 28 str though.
If that's a bit too high you could go Large Club for 22 str and not give up much damage.
>>336449562
honestly i just use tears of denial for hornet memers and mash that r1 button. the chance of them getting a parry is pretty small. maybe don't do a third r1 after you catch them with an r1-r1 combo because that's when they always parry, instead do a r2 after your combos
>>336449702
Unless using a Great weapon class, parry is pretty mediocre.
You can survive at least two parries if someone is using a fast weapon.
Hornet ring changes everything and becomes one shot machine with any fuckhueg weapon
>>336449702
I liked parries in 1 the most. They were harder to whiff out and you really needed to be able to predict an attack for it to work but if you did read one coming very quickly you could punish it with a backstab yet it wasn't easy unless they were just spamming parry in place.
In 2, reactive parries on 1st hit are bit too easy, but so is just delaying your attack slightly and then catching the one trying to parry in a stun.
>>336449562
Here's a trick. If you know they're going to parry, sprint straight at them. As they parry, run around them and backstab them. For most shields you'll have just enough time to get the backstab off. Be aware that it doesn't work on fist parries though, at least as far as I'm aware.
Once you get this technique down it pretty much trivializes parry spammers.
>>336449968
Yea, almost everybody is using caestus to parry spam these days.
>>336449684
No it doesn't. That's not how scaling works.
If you have a weapon that's predominantly a dex weapon, such as a uchigatana, and you infuse it with refined, you're losing scaling on dexterity versus a sharp uchigatana. Refined is only worthwhile if you invest evenly into both.
Also, quality is inherently superior to str or dex due to the fact that scaling hits a softcap at 40. The rate at which you gain AR drops above 40 and then drops severely above 60. So, in that regard, 40/40 is the most effective build when it comes to raw damage but it comes at the price of substantially higher stat investment.
Do they not playtest their games? Every time they release with something so obviously superior to everything else it is baffling how it got through.
>>336450427
That is how you would think it should work, not how it actually works.
>>336450521
No, that is literally how it works.
If you are pure dex with minimal str then sharp is superior to refined. Period. End of story. This is how it works. If you invest significantly more into str than is necessary to wield a weapon then you're building quality and refined is a better choice.
>>336450427
That's how it's supposed to work, but no. Katanas used to have A/S scaling and were therefore great for dexterity only builds, but when even refined you only get B, having next to no STR scaling actually hurts you because you still need 11STR to even wield the weapon. It's better to go refined even here.
Starting to see the problem? C/C alone gives excellent damage output, it doesn't help that multiple refined weapons go up to B/B.
>>336443560
Chaos Blade if you're weeb enough.
>>336450702
That's not how it works in practice even though that's how it was in past games.
Sharp with 10/20 deals less damage than Refined at 15/15.
Chaos Blade is the only katana to have dex scaling above B but cannot be infused or buffed.
So what's this about hollow weapons and luck? Hollow weaps scale off it or it boosts luck?
By how much and is this shown in game or is it like a hidden mechanic,
>>336451097
Both. Hollow scales off luck and gives up to +5 luck(depending on upgrade level of the weapon) while above 15 hollowing.
>>336451097
If you're over 10 hollowing, then they boost luck depending on their +, at +10 it's 5 extra luck
They also get extra damage from luck
And yes, it's hidden
>>336450797
>>336451001
I see...
That's stupid as fuck.
When will we go to the east and slay onis
Why are there so few weapon with S scaling? STR only has FUGS and DEX weapons have like 2.
Then you have some random weapons with S scaling in Faith if you infuse it with lightning, like curved greatswords. I mean what?
>>336451184
>>336451189
Thanks.
So for farming is a hollow weapon best, or anris or the crystal sages sword?
>>336451273
>From adds a new DLC
>it's in the land of honorubu samurai
>katanas and ninjas literally everywhere
>fight through hordes of oni and tengu
>final boss is literally Sir Alonne 2.0
>the new arena is located in that DLC
>teleport to the arena to fight someone
>YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>336451491
Would play. Far East is a thing in DS so it won't even be so far fetched. Onislayer bow/arrows prove it.
>>336451491
Fighting japanese themed monsters would be pretty cool though I guess
>Tengu trying
>Kappas trying to drag you into the water
>Yuki-Onna using frost attacks
Okay literally you could just take Muramasa's enemies and do it
>>336451632
The East has always been referenced in Dark Souls. Onislayer shit however specifically references the kind of monsters they have.
>>336444223
You stupid af
>>336443560
I roll with sharp warden twinblades and sharp carthus shotel, sometimes with a bow or farrons for that sweet spin.
Buffing them with either rouge or flame arc.
This thread makes me wonder, assuming the same point investment, would quality be better?
>>336445014
I always figured raw gems were for casters who still need a weapon.
>>336452171
Basically, they're for people who only want to invest the very bare minimum stats to wield something and don't plan on putting any more.
Deep and Fire are for similar purposes as they also lack any scaling, but they have Dark and Chaos for those who want those elements but also scaling.
>>336451934
Depends. If your strength at 15 or above, you might as well make them refined.
>>336446183
>Cold pyromancies
>Cold
>pyromancies
>SORCERY
>O
>R
>C
>E
>R
>Y
>>336451632
>>336451769
Also in Bloodborne:
"Garb of a distant Eastern land, worn by Yamamura the Wanderer.
This Eastern warrior pursued a beast for honourable revenge, then became a hunter of the League. But when he stared straight into impurity, it drove him mad."
>>336452650
Cold is the absence of heat. Who's to say you can't suck up all the heat for yourself?
>>336452792
In DaS lore cold is an actual thing, like death and dark, and cold is covered by sorcery.
>>336452650
>crystal magic is cold
>>336453009
You don't see the super obvious lightning/ice/fire circle that every fucking Japanese game has?
So i just picked up an obviously hacked weapon. I am unable to drop or discard it though. Am i fucked?
>>336453095
>>336452650
>none of the sorceries cause frostbite
>none of the pyromancies cause burn effect on players
>none of the lightning miracles cause paralysis
why even bother giving them elements then?
>>336453945
Enemies have elemental weaknesses and strengths...
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1ikf0Ni8sqpWjzN6r4ZEymb1-wJm7UGJu1b0WOkD-VDM/viewform
Got 1 or 2 minutes to spare? Played Dark Souls 3?
Fill out this short questionnaire and we'll soon have cool infographics with the results and all that shit. Already got ~300 responses, want even more.
>>336454092
Where you uploading this shit later anon?
>>336454456
I'll try to make some cool infographic out of it and then post it in some ds3 threads on /v/ and in /dsg/
But I want to give everyone a chance to participate first, started it yesterday evening
>>336443560
/r/darksouls3/comments/4hspd4/beat_the_game_last_night_and_i_documented_every/
This shit is pretty autistic.
inb4
>>336454972
How do I use this link?
>>336454972
>300 deaths
>only in Irythil
Worse than DSP confirmed.
I wish the game recorded your death count though like 2 did.
>>336445319
Demon Souls
Has anyone got an Armour of Thorns set that they can trade me? Want to make a character using just that for damage from High wall onwards.
>>336446968
Good, we need less shitters in the community
>>336456002
>associating yourself with """"the dark souls community""""
are you subscribed to afro by any chance?
>>336455205
Add reddit adress
>>336454092
>>336454092
When will you be posting ? I want to know when to look for it.
