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Thoughts?
>>336435536
>2 smashes
>Only 1 street fighter
You just can't explain this site
>>336435821
Capcom wants sf5 the go to game.
Pokken and Xrd are the only ones remotely interesting.
>>336435821
Cus like it or not, smash is too popular. Though its exciting to watch too
>>336436260
>Though its exciting to watch too
No not really. Watching smash is the most boring thing in the world
Shit lineup. Will just watch side-tournies.And sunday finals, 'cause there's nothing else to watch.
>>336437723
Side tournies is like ST, 3rd Strike, CvS2, oldies like those right?
>>336436260
smash 4 isn't the greatest spectator sport
then again neither is marvel
Needs skullgirls. Hyped for pokken, it's way more legit then I thought it would be.
People whine about smash/melee and yeah it could probably be it's own event but whatever,
>>336435536
I see nothing wrong with this.
All of those games deserve to be there.
>>336437850
Oldies and less popular games like SC5, DOA5, Catherine and stuff.
>>336437723
This is gonna be me too I guess, but maybe I'll keep a watch on Tekken and KI. And maybe Gundam on Animevo
>>336437850
Is there a CVS2 side tourney this year?
>>336435536
SFV sucks, MKX sucks, Smash sucks, Pokken sucks.
Marvel is busted dead trash but its fun to watch.
KI and Tekken are gonna be fun and I hope Revelator isnt boring.
>>336437969
Switch the What you Expected and What you Got.
Pokken is an AWFUL specator game due to it's gameplay.
I love Smash but Sm4sh doesn't deserve a spot. Neither does pokken tournament. Guess Ninty money is good.
>>336438982
Pokken is the best thing on that list. Smash 4 is better than Melee.
>>336435821
Would you really want both SFV and SFIV at the same tourney? That aside, you have to understand that Melee exists in a vacuum of its own. Without any supporters, sponsors, or backing from any company including Nintendo they've somehow manage to organize their own events, host their own tourney's, and constantly fund their own prize pools. I hate Melee, but if that isn't "FGC" enough for you, I don't know what is. They've earned their spot. Only unfortunate thing was Nintendo pushing Smash 4 into EVO too.
>>336438907
Only if you have no idea how the phase system works
>>336438982
nintendo certainly bought pokken's spot but it actually deserves it.
SFV is gonna be boring as fucking shit. It's gonna be the exact same bullshit as every other year with the same 8 players playing the same fucking characters.
SFV hopefully has more characters when EVO gets here.
Melee deserves the spot, Smash4 doesn't.
Tekken will be a shitfest for non-jap players.
Mahvel is ok being there, same as melee. As long as the community supports it, then it's Ok. It's not like they have a new game to move to.
>>336439049
Good joke. That's like comparing a kiddie pool (smash 4) to the mariana trench (melee) in terms of gameplay depth.
Melee has so much tech, most of them stuff is not even able to be perfomed by humans consistently.
>>336435536
I hate how discussion is about what games they want to watch rather than what games they want to play on the big stage. Tbh I suck horribly with a camera on me, but it's good fun relishing in all of the anxiety with no real repercussions like failing an exam or fucking up a crucial meeting would have.
The mixture of anxiety and complete freedom to fuck up is a high I can only feel playing video games. I've clutched so hard my hands were shaking and my dick was twitching (no homo). I hope other competitors that haven't made this shut their day job feel the same way and I encourage everyone to at least try it. Even if you're ass there has been a huge jump in newbies that seem to not play a lot.
If you're really scared and just want an easy confindence booster before really competeing, some of the less popular, but "hyped" games will even have players who never show up so you can at least brag about going 2-2 in something like KOF without ever having to really fight.
>>336439212
It's more like comparing an olympic swimming pool to a vat of sludge. The pool may not be as deep, but at least it is enjoyable to be in, and offers a lot of competition. Meanwhile you have the same 10 people playing the same 5 characters doing the same two things for 15 years in Mele- er the sludge.
>>336439212
I don't play Smash, but the other week I fucked around with Bidou tech on my dusty copy. Easy to use
who's objectively the best at each of the games?
>>336439049
How is it a better game?
It's literally void of options.
You run up to someone in melee and you can.
>shield stop
>wavedash back
>wavedash in place
>wavedash forward
>SH waveland back or forward
>crouch cancel counter-attack
>tree-grab
>dash back
>JC grab/Usmash
>pivot attack
>roll
>spotdodge
And more depending on character the list goes on forever.
In smash 4 you can
>shield stop
>RAR aerial
>JC Usmash
>Perfect Pivot
>roll
>spotdodge
If you want me to be super gentle I'll even throw in Bidou tech.
>sliding spotdodge
And that's about it.
And this is just one situation example. I'm not even counting all the bullshit you can do in melee with platforms.
I like Smash 4 but how the fuck is it a better game than Melee with such barebones gameplay?
green is good
red is bad/why, the dollar sign is nintendo money
orange is meh, I get why they're here but I just don't play them. Will still watch some
Smoked a big ass bowl of dank memes and I'm here to meme this shit hole of a thread.
>>336439552
Nah. A better comparison is saying that melee is chess and smash 4 is rock paper scissors. It's not even good enough to be checkers, it's too simple.
>>336439212
Pokken has plenty of depth. It has juggles, cancels, reads, mixups, zoning/footsies, etc, same as any other fighter; the same block/attack/grab triangle any other fighter has plus a focus attack equivalent (as well as fadc); plus a stance subsystem and another layer of depth due to phase changes
>>336439668
see
>>336439175
>>336439745
I didn't say anything about pokken though?
>>336439668
Marvel will never die.
The very few that are still playing are addicted like crack whores. Addicted to Anchor Vergil. Addicted to Footdive and hidden missles. Addicted to tits.
You will never stop marvel.
Thoughts?
>>336439552
The melee meta keeps changing though, right now Jigglypuff is the demon trying to be overcomed.
Seriously there hasn't been a Fox ditto or Fox vs Falco in Grand Finals since forever. It's weird.
Falco as a character is now an endangered species even.
>>336439837
Hi /a/
>>336435536
>Pokken Tournament
I think this game literally exists to be a target to take the negative stigma away from competitive Smash.
>>336439837
Just happy to see some love for Gundam and Under Night.
I can't wait to also see the alleged Saber Mirrors in Nitro+ and or Sonico Cat Shenanigans.
I now also wonder what kind of bullshit there will be for Blade Arcus.
>>336439837
keep dreaming, fatty
>>336439634
Me at all of them
>>336439883
Westballz has been shitting the bed.
Mang0 dropped falco for marth.
PPMD is depressed.
Leffen hasn't touched falco in tournament for a long time. Also lol leffen.
Who the fuck else plays this character?
>>336439837
I wish XIII was there but I understand why it's not.
Anime games are always hype so I'm totally looking forward to Revelator.
>>336439975
>Mang0 dropped falco for marth.
That is so fucking bizarre. I still can't believe it.
No Marth will ever reach M2k though.
Marvel is an anime fighter. In theory.
>>336439947
But this is an actual event. No need to dream
http://animevo.moe/
>>336440047
>Woshige is now Capcom's Battle Director or something
At least he landed nicely somewhere.
>>336440078
M2k just needs to drop shiek and fox. He needs to finish what Ken started.
>>336440181
I don't know, people really underestimate how bad Marth/Jiggs is for Marth.
>>336436260
it's like watching ants fight
>>336439837
Interested in Arcana and Blazblue, but may watch a few others just for the hell of it.
I probably wouldn't watch without Marvel.
SF5 is so dumbed down to SF4/3 I don't think I could work up motivation to marathon EVO like the SF4 years.
I actually quite like watching KI though. MK not so much. Tekken's just boring, as is Sm4sh and pokken.
Kinda indifferent toward GG/Melee
>>336440083
It has the worst aspect of fast-paced chain fighters.
>literal comeback mechanics that scale with status, so it undoes every hard work you or your opponent has done playing fairly
>touch of death, loops and TAC glitches make sure there's virtually no such thing as footsies
>Okizeme in the form of character death into incoming setup that's at least 2 layers of mind games
It's like everything bad about anime fighters pumped to 11
>>336440675
But we love it anyway.
>>336435536
I'm thinking about trading in mkx to get sfv. Is it much better of a game?
>>336439819
Not saying this as an anti-Marvel person, but I honestly feel that this is Marvel's last year since KoFXIV is coming out. Unless Pokken ends up bombing super hardwhich I feel it willthen I don't know how KoF is going to be squeezed in unless they up the max amount of main stage games to 10. Keep in mind that KoFXIII was also mainstage for a while before it fell off.
>>336440816
Yes.
It's still not that good though.
>>336440816
It depends on what you like/hate about MKX. What made you stop playing it?
>>336440891
Marvel STILL gets huge views so if anything's getting pushed off mainstage it's a Nintendo game or one of the western piggus.
>>336440675
Honestly Marvel ourtside of the SS tiers is still fun as shit to watch, the mixups get so dirty and the pace is so ridiculous.
Aint nothing fun about watching lightning loops and Vergil though.
Yeeeaaahhh Tekken is gonna be sweet!
>>336441056
True, Vergil, Doom and Zero shells are fucking boring to watch, this is why even if KBR is an unsavory person, his team is a breath of fresh air
>>336435536
Man Pokken is gonna be a shit show. The devs don't even give a fuck about that game. Evo is pretty much their last chance.
>>336441056
Considering Tekken 7 still doesn't have a console release date, and if it doesn't by EVO next year, I could see KoFXIV taking Tekken 7's spot. As for the Western games, I unfortunately don't see MKX or KI leaving any time soon. Ed Boon is tweeting hints at more characters and KI is working on their season three stuff beginning next year.
>>336435821
But MvC is the Melee of Street Fighter
>>336437969
>Pokken
>mix ups
>depth
>>336441217
Even if it won't have a console release it will most likely have new characters and stages. I think that is good enough to keep it there.
The only thing that will save marvel is if a Wright Team gets top 3.
Remove tr4sh, pokken, mvc3. Replace with BB, USF4, p4u I guess? Anything but these pieces of shit
>>336440245
I though marth had a posited MU against puff just not as good as fox
>>336441230
MvC represents the vs series
No one really considers SF and Marvel to be the same game series because they are not
I'll just watch Melee, Xrd, and the Skullgirls side tourney if there's a stream
maybe MKX because I haven't kept up with it and I'm curious what it looks like
also, between Pokken, Tekken, SSB4, and SFV Evo has a ridiculous amount of unproven games this year. I remember when Evo used to have standards.
>>336436260
Except it ALWAYS goes into fucking overtime and takes up screen time for the other games
>>336441380
You can try all you want, but the FGC are never going to go back to SFIV. As someone who still plays that game, the online is as dead as Third Strike Online. That said, I wouldn't mind BB or Persona (if they could just make a new one or a PS4 port.)
>>336440083
it's basically a super janky ripoff of an arcsys game
>>336441848
I actually get matches faster in SFIV than V, it's stupid fucked.
>>336441848
Whatever, as long as the three games I listed get replaced
>>336441746
its good
I LOVE MVC
FUCK Marvel, Disney and Capcom. They need to create a new versus game if they won't fix their shit.
>Pokken
it's only there since Nintendo is forcing it right now. At least Smash 4 has some legitimacy and is popular with most people outside of the Melee community
>SFV
>Xrd
>KI
>Melee
bretty gud
>>336442208
i might get a xbone is it good ki
>>336442114
when's capcom vs capcom
>>336442326
KI's gotten really good.If you have a PC and don't mind or already running Windows 10 you can get it there too
>>336441473
and no one considers Melee and Sm4sh to be the same series because they are not
>>336442326
Ki is the only reason I would ever get an xbone. I play it on my friends xbone, it's great. Not as good as SF or Melee though, so use that as a gauge. Definitely better the MK/mvc3
>>336440891
If they can keep carrying the carcass of Melee because it brings views, another dead horse like MvC3 can still be around. It still brings a ton of views.
Pokken could get the axe depending on the results.
>>336441951
Oh yeah, the load times for SFV are awful and the fact that character select is casual-matches-only sucks dick, I agree. That said, Capcom released SFV to meet the needs of the FGC and so far it has succeeded. Would take something major for them to ever resort back to SFIV in place of SFV now.
>>336442114
>tfw new Avengers movie (Capt. America) is out
>New X-men film featuring most of the X-men from MvC2 coming out
>New Spider-Man being made
>Dead Pool recently released
>All this comic book/movie shit happening
>Disney/Marvel refuses to let MvC4 happen meaning the window of opportunity for MvC2-2 is quickly slipping away
>The perfect MvC game won't get made because Disney wants to make phone-shit and Skylanders
>>336435536
I'm pretty excited for KI. It's the only game that I can recall that every single character was used in the top 32 of a major tournament.
You don't get that with other games.
>>336442326
KI does SF style neutral game better than SFV does and that's sad.
Playing KI though I get a lot of feelings of VSav in there, it's kind of a spiritual spin-off of sorts.
>>336442470
Yeah. ok, anon
>>336442740
dumb emojiposter
>>336440891
>but I honestly feel that this is Marvel's last year since KoFXIV is coming out.
KoFXIII had to buy their way with shirts to get people to sign up and not play. KOF will never be popular enough to have any legitimate tournament staying.
>>336442546
The problem here is that the problems MvC has are exactly the problems Melee has in regards to the things that are going against it, but Melee isn't being affected those items:
>Both games are out of print
>Both games lack company backing (including finances, patches, etc.)
>Both suffer from "outside" flaws, namely Melee needing CRT TV's (this is a pretty big issue) and MvC having DLC characters you can no longer get
>Both lack functions to teach new players and regarding online, which Melee doesn't have, MvC sucks.
>Both have, despite growing, dwindled in terms of fresh faces and new blood to their scenes. They may get more viewers, but not more players.
Despite all this though, Melee is still somehow more "alive" considering things like viewership numbers, especially when it comes to regular, non-tournament streams. I got nothing against MvC, but I'm just calling it like I see it.
>>336442625
Yeah they balanced the game very well. I attribute the good balancing to the core mechanics of the game, really. The block-out and ways of countering makes everyone viable.
>>336443346
If we're talking about America, then I agree. There's still a shit ton of KoF events throughout Mexico, South America, Asia, and Europe tough. Makes me sad to think people won't give KoF a chance due to some weird allegiance to Capcom.
>>336443741
>There's still a shit ton of KoF events throughout Mexico, South America, Asia, and Europe tough.
They're all still pretty fucking small
>>336435536
>No BlazBlue
>Pokken
>MvC3 STILL THERE
>MKX and KI both
It just shows that there are not enough good fighting games around. I know some autists will get mad that I bashed MK and KI but they are both incredibly boring to watch in the same kind of way. And MvC is a shitshow that needs to disappear.
Pokken sounded cool when it was first revealed to be at EVO but now that I've played it for a while, I realized how shallow it is.
Next EVO is probably going to be better, there are going to be more and better fighting games around.
>>336435536
Why no Soul Calibur V?
Also 2 versions of Smash? Is this a new meme?
>>336444446
>to watch
>blazblue
>to watch
back to whatever stream service you came from
>>336444324
As are non-American MvC3 events are no? I mean, does any country still play MvC3 aside from America and a few South American countries? I know the Japanese consider it a piece of shit and have since dropped it a while ago. And that said, it's no shit they're small. KoF XIII is a five-year-old fighting game with strict tiers lists and even more strict demands when it comes to execution. Not exactly inviting to newbies.
>>336444612
We are talking about EVO faggot, of course it's important how fun a game is to watch.
Tell me this wasn't the most hype top 8 of 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alc3k7b03oA
And the finals were simply amazing
https://youtu.be/Alc3k7b03oA?t=7744
it's sad the only western fighting games are obviously paid by publishers and you have two super autism manchildren games
but hey at least normalfags don't get to watch the creepy pedogames like blazblue or melty blood am i rite
>>336444842
how good is Melty Blood anyways? I've just seen a bit of gameplay and thought it's just MvC levels of 100-0 bullshit, correct me if I'm wrong but if it's really like that, it should stay away from EVO.
>>336444842
Question is, what would you substitute that stuff with? EVO has nine mainstage slots, and if we got rid of the Western games + Smash, you'd have four empty slots left. Considering we can't have more than one game from the same franchise, (Smash is an exception to this), what could you replace it with, especially if you don't want anime games? I can only think of Soul Calibur and Virtua Fighter.
>>336444774
>As are non-American MvC3 events are no?
No, seeing how KVO has had nearly a 200-man UMvC3 tournament in Japan. Way bigger than most other Japanese games including KOFXIII.
>>336444842
>>336445179
>it's sad the only western fighting games are obviously paid by publishers
The only games actually paid by publishers were Atlus games. Why do people say NRS pays when their game gets more entrants than any anime game? MKX was the only other game than Smash and SF to break 1k entrants last year. Are weebs really that butthurt people play western games?
>>336445179
let's start with putting in liero since if super smash is allowed then liero should be too
>>336439654
Glitchfest vs skill.... Wow you sure told them anon
>>336435536
No thoughts. EVO has been shit for over a decade.
>>336445651
t. I've never ever been
>>336445383
Woah there, I never said NRS paid for anything. I was just asking what games that guy would pick considering he didn't want anime games in place of Western games and Smash. I got no hate for Western titles at EVO.
>>336445424
The problem with that is that this is EVO mainstage. There was competitive Catherine last year as a non-main-stage title and it got a good amount of participation. The thing with Melee is that its community is so large that they can't be ignored. You round up enough Liero players to start having $15k+ pool prizes, professional sponsorships, and teams playing on the regular, and I swear EVO would give Liero a shot too. Also, all the Smash people will buy tickets to attend EVO and the online-pass thing just to watch it. Too much easy money to ignore.
>no blazblue even though it's pretty active and getting new version, also hype.
Who is going to win SFV this year?
>>336435536
Party games such as Mortal Kombat need to go
>>336440078
He still used Falco vs m2k at EGLX
>>336447467
It's looking more and more likely to be infiltration I think.
>>336443416
People have completely downloaded Rico's Shadow Jago and he's switched back to Fulgore main and pocket Omen while the last KI Cup Qualifier final at PNW had a Kim-Wu/Cinder final. And they were considered terrible at the start of Season 3.
Going to be a crazy evo.
>>336447367
People would only care if the new version was released before EVO. It might get a mainstage spot next year depending on when it releases, but it might not. I would like to see both GG and BB at an EVO, but nine mainstage slots are starting to feel a bit little since they decided to add multiple smash games, pokken and keep forcing old games like MvC3.
>all this mvc3 hate
Yall niggas don't even play fighting games. MvC mind games are the best part of Evo. People still bring new teams to the top 16 every year.
>>336439837
>no 2hu
>>336448810
>footdive
>footdive
>footdive
>footdive
>>336451456
>Not one HIDDEN MISSILES or PLASMA RAY
Haha look at this scrub
>>336435536
pokken and marvel should have been dropped
you can't even buy jill/shuma anymore
dropping sf4 for sf5 in a major tournament like this was a mistake. it basically caused everyone to drop sf4 permanently but not everyone stuck with sf5. some people just moved on from fighting games to dark souls 3 or other genres in general.
