Does this prove once and for all that Neo-Nintendo does Not know how to make good games anymore?
>>336406519
Lol it has a score of 69. xD
But that's developed by Platinum
;^)
>>336406608
*Triggered* lol
>>336406519
Incoming Nintendo defense force
>B-but it's just like 64!
>Who cares if it's only 6 hours long, it's fun!
>>336406845
It's amazing how they failed to improve upon a 19 year old game.
How the fuck does Star Fox Zero have a metascore 6 points lower than Sticker Star?
>>336407202
Because Sticker Star had the decency to at least have good controls.
>>336407202
Because they're both trash and apparently everyone hates SFZ's controls
>>336406519
No.
>>336407334
>muh kiddieshit
You're acting like designing a Kirby game is hard to do.
>>336407267
Well I can already tell you never played SFZ for more than 5 minutes
>>336407334
>its a franchisethathasalmostnochangeorchallengeoutsideofthepostgamebossrushinover20years episode
>>336407334
I'm not sure why this wasn't a new IP
A lot of their stuff this gen has felt pretty sterile. Technically sound, tight controls, but uninspired like the staff is just going through the motions.
>>336408148
What about the new IPs like Splatoon?
>>336406519
in b4 20-year-old shitters who emulated most of their star fox games and have never been inside a proper arcade in their lives arrive to tell me this game is good because it's "arcade like" as if that means anything.
>>336407947
DSP did a full play through and hated the controls the whole fucking time, as did most reviewers.
Quit damage controlling forced gimmicks you fucking drone.
it proves critics are retarded and incapable of playing games requiring basic wrist movement
You shitposting degenerates are so desperate trying to get some new material you keep going for easy-ass targets that have been beaten to death at this point. Desperate for all those (you)s huh?
But I'm feeling generous today, so you can catch these (you)s and these numbers you double-chinned cuckolds.
>>336406519
I haven't played the game & I don't think it's doom for Nintendo... But I honestly wonder how this is going to change Miyamoto's thinking. It's the first big game of his that's been critically panned that I can ever remember.
And while I definitely can't imagine Nintendo demoting him or anything for it.. I would say they've gotta seriously be taking a look at why this failed so hard, since it seems they had such high expectations for this.
It'll be pretty interesting to see what they do going forward..
NINTENDOOMED?
>>336408224
I said a lot of their stuff, not all of it. I think Splatoon is a great example, though. Nintendo needs new stuff. That's a tough case to make when Mario is the icon of the franchise, but they need some new IPs to get their guys going.
>>336408321
>No Star Fox 1
>Lists SF Adventures as a n64 game
really cool graph, dum dum
>>336408507
Fair enough. I mean they do try to make more new IPs. They just end up not selling well like Codename Steam and Wonderful 101.
>>336408086
Because Nintendo thinks they must slap big franchises name and some cameos for good selling numbersIt worked #FE and Metroid Federation force right?
Truly Nintendo is facing dark times
>>336408390
>I would say they've gotta seriously be taking a look at why this failed so hard
They really don't need to look that hard
>Let's remake Star Fox again
>But let's not give it anywhere near the same level of content or quality as Star Fox 64
>>336408582
>They just end up not selling well like Codename Steam and Wonderful 101
Codename Steam and Wonderful 101 didn't get anywhere near the same level of advertisement that Splatoon did
>>336408086
>>336408606
Why should the new Kirby game be some new IP? The whole gameplay is Kirby.
>>336408639
It's better then SF64
>>336408224
Splatoon was a half-assed disappointment that only proves how far behind Nintendo is.
>>336408524
Thanks anon, I made it myself
>>336408745
Gamers have outgrown Kirby. We want our mature games
>>336408729
True.
>>336408813
How's it half assed? If anything it shows that the newer devs need to take over faster over the old guard like Miyamoto.
>>336408958
Because it doesn't have some of even the most basic features of online console games?
Eh, they still make good new games, as evidenced by Codename STEAM post-patch, Splatoon, Pushmo/Crashmo, Steel Divers (Subwars, not the retail release).
Their sequels can be hit (MK8, Sm4sh, Zelda ALBW) or miss (Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, Chibi Robo, Game & Wario).
Some of their 3rd party partnerships were pretty GOAT this Gen however..
>MH3U, MH4U, TW101, Bayonneta 2, Hyrule Warriors, Nintendo costumes in Tekken Tag 2 Wii U as well as Tekken Ball, all those GOAT 3rd party choices to add to Sm4sh, TMS#FE, likely more that I'm missing
Not too horrible I might say at all.
You know I wouldn't be surprised if they announced Skyward Sword HD for Holiday 2016 at this point in time since all we know really is Paper Mario for Wii U holiday 2016.
They need SOMETHING besides Ballad of the Goddesses and TPHD to celebrate the franchise's big 3-0 since apparently Zelda U won't be able to make it.
>>336408832
>"""""Gamers""""""
Is this you anon?
https://youtu.be/z1Ch6N8QT00
>>336406845
>6 hours long
By today's standards, that's pretty good, especially for a Star Fox game.
What are the biggest complaints people have about it anyways, why is it getting so much hate?
>>336409051
It didn't at first. Now it does.
>Release game on Wii U.
>It doesn't sell.
WOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW IT WOULDNT SELL
>>336407334
>Easy walk simulator
No thanks
>Only bad games are delayed, and bad games are bad forever
T. Miyamoto
>>336407334
The final boss was better Star Fox than any game has been since SF64.
>>336409149
>Why isn't Kirby hard?
Nobody wants hardcore Kirby
>>336407334
I want to fuck that robot on the top right.
Better than Assault.
>>336407749
>>336408000
>>336409149
>SF fags mad their games get constantly experimented on, unlike Kirby.
>>336409098
>By today's standards, that's pretty good,
Uh, not when you can easily get dozens of hours out of games like Witcher 3 or Dark Souls 3, that are actually good?
>>336408294
lol
>>336407334
>HAL are EAD
No.
>>336406519
Zero is a good game, but good isn't good enough when you're trying to recreate a great game from almost two decades ago. They could have made a HD remake of Starfox 64 and it would've sold more.
>>336408294
Is this an actual argument? A youtube lets player didnt like it?
I hope you're being ironic.
>>336407334
>this game was a better star fox than star fox
I feel happy and disappointed at the same time.14:24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7y6A8_Zpvc
>>336409345
What faggot hates Assault?
>>336409329
Don't.
She is literally worse than Hitler.
She will sell your dick in the black market.
>>336408294
>dsp hates video game controls
WOW
>>336409054
>hit
>TR4SH
yeah, fuck you too.
>>336409553
People with taste.
>much shitty unbalanced multiplayer
>>336409453
/v/ full on defends DSP till the end, unfortunately.Or he was baiting for (You)s
>>336409372
Yes, but two long games doesn't excuse the millions of 3 hour cinematic shorts.
>>336409356
>SF fags mad their games get constantly experimented on, unlike Kirby.
>Kirby games
>Not going through constant gimmick inspiration games
The fuck are you on about?
>>336406519
If anything, it proves that modern gaming culture is cancer
>>336409692
>3 hour cinematic shorts.
That's twice as long as SF0 is.
>>336408294
>DSP
>Hated the controls
Color me surprised.
>>336409386
That's like saying Intelligent Systems, etc aren't Nintendo. It's 2nd Party like them.
>>336409657
>Assault is shit because of multiplayer
Lol wtf
>>336409356
What the fuck nigga? If you knew jackshit about Kirby, you would know that he and Mario are the fucking labrats of Nintendo franchises
>Mass Attack
>Kirby's Rainbow and Canvas Curse
>Epic Yarn
>Air Ride
>Tilt N Tumble
>Pinball Land
>Dream Course
>Avalanche
If you never realized this, then you just might be retarded.
>>336409748
Oh fuck off. You can't seriously fucking defend Zero as a good game. The controls isn't even the biggest issue the game has
>>336409819
HAL isn't owned by Nintendo.
The Graphics-Gameplay trade off was most definitely not worth it imo.
>>336409871
What are the big issues then? I'll wait.
>>336409871
It's a good game
>>336409871
Why should I bother "defending" it? What do I gain from arguing you?
>>336409871
Are you seriously just going to regurgitate the opinions of 64 purists. If so, I already made a long-winded response to those arguments in the previous Star Fox thread and I'll do it again.
>>336406845
Is that 6h just to get to the end or to get 100%?
>>336409798
Wait, really? I've never actually played it, so I'm wondering WHY it's getting all the hate.
>>336406519
It's all about gimmicks and timing
>Gamecube was failure in terms of sales (which by the way there are a lot of good games there)
>Wii , the first gimmick console, made lotsa emone appealing wider audience
>WiiU, trying to appeal the more "hardcore" fans they "lost" , they feel so out of touch taking looong time to release a 720p game and making bad decisions and the console failed horribly
I'm pretty sure Nintendo can still make good games if they focus, but after the WiiU, Nintendo might as well focus again on making money appealing to casuals like the Wii era and it's already happening with Fire emblem fates and the mobile apps.
I'm actually sad about this but fuck this new Nintendo
>>336406519
Well, i dont even care about nintendo, but metascore is like imdb or rotten tomatos, it doesnt count for shit
>>336406845
>implying the game is even 6 hours long
I don't know man, Splatoon was pretty fun.
>>336410418
>Implying it's 3 hours long
>>336410364
Gen 7 was the awful turning point where the industry went to shit, but it was doubly bad for Nintendo. It's an almost decade-long gap where the entire company lost touch with the non-casual gaming market. Just think about it, most of Nintendo's middle management started their career during the Wii era.
>>336409372
>Dark souls 3
>Good
Literally its a Shittier Dark souls 1.
>>336410381
What the fuck is up with this gay "critics dont matter" meme? Good games get good reviews, most of the time. Good movies get good reviews too.
Just because not everyone is le video game conissoures like /v/ is, it doesn't mean that you hipster faggots can dictate whos opinions matter and why.
>>336409819
Even if HAL were owned by Nintendo, HAL being able to shit out another Kirby game says nothing of Nintendo's ability or inability to make engaging software.
>>336407749
>>336408000
>>336408086
>>336409149
>>336409386
>faggots mad Kirby did Star Fox better since after fucking SNES and 64
>they even took homages to the Andross 64 fight
>>336410648
what's a "hardcore" game anyway? A game with deep gameplay mechanics right. Well Nintendo still produces games like that here and there
>>336410761
>What the fuck is up with this gay "critics dont matter" meme?
Because they don't. They have shit taste and nothing worthwhile to say
> Good games get good reviews,
> Good movies get good reviews too.
Literally delusional
>>336409657
>>336409553
>>336409859
also trash and linear single player that was only okay for 2 levels
>>336406845
To be fair Undertale is about 6 hours and people eat that shit up
>>336410859
I'm not sure how you got the idea that my post implied I was mad about Star Fox being shit.
Star Fox was always shit. Panzer Dragoon is superior.
>>336410859
post eye lasers please
thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN-cXVqAkcQ
Matthew is kind of a manchild desu
>>336411023
Sin & Punishment is better then your furry shit nobody ever played
>>336411000
dub+trip confirm
>>336410761
Bad games also get good reviews. Especially when reviewers get literally paid by publishers for good scores.
Besides, "professional game reviewers" don't matter because they're an outdated concept. In a world where every fucktard can go online and shit out his opinions on the keyboard for everyone to see, there is no place for a "professional opinioner". Especially not in an industry as juvenile as video games, you don't even get the excuse that reviewers are those with insights that come from being experienced in the media, like you do in cinema or literature. It's fucking vidya, this ain't exactly high art here.
>>336411023
>>Star Fox was always shit. Panzer Dragoon is superior.
>>336411000
>Undertale is about 6 hours
Try 3. At best.
>>336411023
>Star Fox was always shit. Panzer Dragoon is superior.
Man I miss Sega consoles.
>>336411142
the irony of this post
I like Star Fox Zero so therefore everyone who hates it must be trying to troll me.
>>336410967
>Reviews only matter if I agree with them
Is this what you're saying? I wont deny that most critics are casuals with dumb taste but bad games get bad scores.
With the case of movies, why do professional critics' opinions don't matter but those of a faceless nobody like you shitposting on an anime website do?
>>336406519
So suddenly reviews matter?
>>336411268
>>336411023
Kid Icarus says fuck your shit
>>336411000
Undertale isnt $60.
>>336411320
>it doesn't matter when its nintendo
>>336406519
>metacritic
no, but it does prove that neo/v/ exist. which has fallen further Nintendo or 4chan, I'm going with that later.
>>336411302
>Is this what you're saying?
No,retard. Only idiots read reviews
>With the case of movies, why do professional critics' opinions don't matter but those of a faceless nobody like you shitposting on an anime website do?
because at least I don't have shit taste
>>336411482
Damage control.
>>336411426
Tone down your "I-its ok when Nintendo does it!" meming for 5 minutes. I always see threads from every side saying that reviews don't matter.
Why is it that they only matter when you can use it as ammo? Why doesn't /v/ worship the high rated AAA games that get released by the big name companies? Why doesn't /v/ praise hipster indie games?
>>336411084
MREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEO
>>336411561
/v/ isn't one person you fucking idiot
Trust videogames review sites and journalists when it justifies shitposting.
Shit on them when it...uhhh...justifies shitposting as well.
Either way you're shitposting. Fuck off retard. nobody cares about internet reviews.
>>336411526
> dick riding metacritic
why is it okay to shill metacritic now? I remember that when people talked shit about a game at least it was from their own experience with it.
>>336411489
>No,retard. Only idiots read reviews
>Just blindly buy the shitty game that is bombing commercially and critically so make an opinion for yourself!
So you can tell me that I'm wrong and that I should research games before I try them? Nah, I'm good. Your game is tanking, deal with it.
>because at least I don't have shit taste
Lmao what are your favorite movies and games, anon? Let's hear it
>>336411426
>It's okay when I'm a shitposter.
>>336411807
GOOD GAMES GET GOOD REVIEWS FAGGOT
>>336411364
>Kid *Arthritis: Uprising says just fuck up your fingers
fixed
>Shitposting is okay when /v/ does it.
>>336411841
Literally a mindless shill. What rag do you write for?
>>336411526
>>336411426
>>336411945
good goy
>>336411561
Reviews only matter when a game I'm looking forward to gets praised.
>>336411945
>Being this much of a liar.
It's okay when /v/ does it.
>>336411668
thanks m8
>>336412047
>instead of answering his questions ill just call him a name and meme out
Gee anon you really showed him huh
>>336411947
Get stronger fingers
>>336412059
fuck you, i liked Command
the touch screen controls and dramatic story telling were great!
i wanna fuck Kursed/Sauria
>>336412224
Here's your answer. Watch gameplay instead of riding IGN's cock
>>336412224
>Answering shitposting questions designed to get (you)'s
So now that the internet and social medias in general have determined that attention dependance has become almost as bad as drug dependance, when are we gonna get attention whore rehab so that we can send all the little shits like you to learn some self-esteem and humility?
>>336412254
have better controls
>>336412459
Stop blaming the game for your physical disabilities
>>336412416
Even better answer is PLAY THE FUCKING GAME!
>>336412254
t. Sakurainigger
>>336412531
stop defending trash controls when 643D exists
>>336411000
see
>>336411385
Actually Undertale feels more like a classic nintendo game than SFZ with all the hidden shit and lore
>>336412416
If we're still talking about Star Fox Zero Effort, I have. It looks like dogshit. It's bombing with both critics and sales, but you'll tell me my opinion doesn't matter at all because I haven't played it myself.
>>336412558
I'm sure Reggie would gladly tell you the same thing in reference to garbage like Fed Force and Color Splash.
HEY WOW GUYS WHY HAVEN'T YOU PLAYED THIS EXCELLENT GAME? IGN GAVE IT A GREAT SCORE AND EVEN SAID IT'S WHAT DEVIL MAY CRY NEEDED! BUGS? PFFFF THERE AIN'T NONE TO SPEAK OF! NEWS SITES AND REVIEWS SITES ARE INFALLIBLE! TAKE MY WORD FOR IT AND BUY THE GAME!
>>336412691
Undertale isn't shit like Mother and Paper Mario though
>>336410648
>most of Nintendo's middle management started their career during the Wii era
I am starting to wonder if Nintendo can make a comeback at all?
ABSOLUTELY BASED! THANK YOU METACRITIC FOR SUCH INSIGHT! ONCE AGAIN YOU HAVE MADE AN AMAZING GAME COME TO MY ATTENTION!
>Neo-Nintendo
>Not just calling them the shorter, and more catchy, Neotendo.
If you faggots are gonna keep having console wars, you might at least be a little more clever about it. Though I guess if you were all a little more clever you wouldn't have one system, and if you could only afford one system you wouldn't have made your one system a fucking console.
>>336409863
>Air Ride
Be right back. Going to Dimple Recorss
>>336412842
>cherrypicking
Now post the scores of your favorite game.
>>336413103
>calling companies nicknames at all
Also, for the record, Nintendo has always been mediocre. People were just more easily impressed by them back then.
>>336413103
>not nu-Nintendo
>not nutendo
>>336409345
>still using 72-point Zero review
Need to update that graph, friendo. It has dropped to 69 since then.
Also, it's hilarious that people like you still think it's "better" than Assault yet tote the "METACRITIC IS WRONG" mentality, when Assault's 8.2 user review still beats Zero's 7.7. In other words, critics AND users think you're wrong.
>>336406519
>im the only one on /v/ that likes this game and its controls
it hurts
But I can agree that nintendo is turning into garbage. Wii u is confirmed dead forever by nintendo them selves now, only holding on to 4 good games, and the 3ds is starting to get lazily spat out games that are just there for the money.
kirby robotic does look good though
>>336413103
>Buying a PC
its as if you enjoy being cucked.
ANOTHER GEM RIGHT THERE!
>>336413119
>Defending IGN
SPOTTED THE S̶H̶I̶L̶L̶ WISE AND CONSCIOUS CUSTOMER!
>>336413360
Great counterpoint
>>336406519
It more proves Miyamoto is a hack
>>336406519
Yes. I am completely done with Nintendo. I am now a Cruz Missile
>>336413443
I'm doing the exact same thing as OP, except that I post games with good scores and claim that they are good.
Where do you see a problem?
>>336412842
>>336413089
This is the core of all the shitposting. /v/ constantly demands that all reviews are bullshit, that they are written by casuals and the worst of the industry and should never be trusted, yet they use the bad scores to shitpost games they don't like, and good scores to defend games they do like.
/v/, you're more hypocritical than anything else in this industry.
>>336413278
I'm an Idort. And I fail to see how having a computer is the same as watching my wife get fucked by other men, which is what I assume console warring poorfags would resort to to have money to buy games if they could land a wife.
But they can't.
Because they're poor.
>>336406519
>WiiU is dead
>last fiscal year Playstation made triple revenue than Nintendo
>this year will potentially be a lot worse
CAN Nintendo be saved?
>>336413556
sorry he's a hack for not making Mario go into the direction 3D Sonic went. (see: 06)
>>336413613
shalom rato
Don't you Aussies have to go eat some vegimite somewhere?
>>336413716
>One bad game
Try again you fucking cuck
>>336413904
haha
>>336413904
Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric
Sonic Chronicles
pre-patched/DLC/port Sonic Lost World
any 3DS Sonic
>>336406519
>rehash a 20 year old game with shitty graphics and no online despite Command and guard having it
>railshoiter in 2016
>fill it with pointless gimmicks, shying off casuals and core fans
No shit this game sucks and bombed. Say goodbye to starfox for another 10 years or until miyamoto retires
>>336413638
This. /v/ is confirmation bias: the board
>>336406519
This proves once for all gaming jornalism is full of shit and people can't put themselves into learning something before trashing the game, the controls are fucking perfect once you gitgud. Took me 30 minutes to get used to everything and a full playthrough to master the game.
This fucker is GOTY material.
>>336414045
love the fact Miyamoto even advised Sonic Team to take notes on Galaxy's level design for Lost World, now look where it went.
sad the news is buried away deep in the internet, never undertstand why.
>>336413904
you seem upset
>>336414306
>no online
Why is Nintendo so fucking slow on this stuff? Is there any other Nintendo exclusive game with online other than Pokemon and Smash Bros?
>>336414478
Niggers who ever advise taking game reviews seriously, even when they're accurate are cancer.
>>336414689
Splatoon was pretty great and a bit of a big deal
You'd assume they'd have learned a lesson about online play and included an online dogfighting mode, though. Could have saved the game in the eyes of many.
>>336408000
>ihaventplayedtyripledeluxe.jpg
>Disregard three games worth of lore, character development and backstory
>Wonder why people don't like it.
>>336413241
user scores are trash too due to how anybody came come in fucking 2016 and throw in automatic 100.. 75s, and 0s in it with or without a review. especially when one of Zero's bad user reviews look /v/ shitposter as fuck and how most of them didn't even do one at all compare the good reviews.
just imagine an angry nintendrone group came in "downvote" 64's user score to hell just too prove Adventure was a better(non)Star Fox game.Assault's user score just went down by one recently today
>>336415468
>complaints are mostly lorecucks and people who thought Event Horizon is the best Star Fox game ever, not KI:U bitching 2.0.
also, you really wanna go back to Command?
Game reviews matter when:
>A game /v/ is excited for gets good reviews
>a game /v/ isn't excited for gets bad reviews
Game reviews don't matter when
>A game /v/ wants gets bad reviews
>a game /v/ doesn't want gets good reviews
>>336415835
>Game reviews matter when:
/v/ wants to shitpost
I'm disappointed because I wanted something more like the SNES game instead of 64. StarFox never felt better than the last area on Route 2 on the original.
>>336415835
>Everyone is a retarded shitposter
Congrats, you figured it out.
POST WOLF
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>>336416417
Why is A Fox in Space sogood?
>>336406519
>Does this prove once and for all that Neo-Platinum does Not know how to make good games anymore?
Fixed that for ya OP
>>336416528
cause it's got SOUL nigga
also wolfCAN'T LOSE
>>336406519
Didnt reviewers have trouble beating the first "puzzle" in Wonderful 101?
I dont know critics are cut out for games that isnt a hallway simulator.
If you wanna shit on Nintendo, shit on Amiibo Festival and Happy Home Design
fucking hell nintendo
>>336416660
>Neo-Platinum
more like nu-Clover Studios
we already gone past neo when PG started to exist.
>>336408281
So what are you, thirty? Stop typing like a teenager.
>>336408832
>We
kys
>>336407334
Not even Nintendo is dumb enough to fuck up a game like Kirby.
>>336406845
>6 hours long
Umm, about that...
>>336417565
Guy Fieri?
>>336409642
Just go ahead and shill project autismo 4free.
The fact people like the gay version of mugen better than a game crafted by real developers is disgusting on itself.
>But it is fast like my animes
Your life is gross.
>>336411841
>Trusting journopros with their game reviews
>Being an actual savvy consumer.
Pick one, retard.
>>336406519
shit that low? kinda want to get it now
>>336409642
>best game in the franchise
>somehow not a hit
???
>>336417931
>tr4shnigger cries boogeyman over a dead special Olympics-tier Brawl mod
topkek
I feel like the only problem is the controls. I personally got used to it but a lot of people can't because they're not good at video games.
>>336418196
>best game
lol >>336418228
>>336418452
You seem confused.
>>336418520
i'm thinking straight
or are you going cry "h-hackurai" like a little rosterfag cunt, anon? lemme here you scream like a bitch.
>>336410265
To play through all paths. Anyone who only does that shouldn't buy the game.
>>336406519
NoSage
>>336418636
You're typing words but they don't seem to have anything to do with the situation at hand. Are you quoting the wrong posts or something?
>>336411023
Never played Panzer Dragoon 1 or Zwei but judging from Orta, I wouldn't like the series that much.
>>336411142
Fucking good taste. S&P1 and 2 were always way better.
>>336417931
>something competely for free
>"shilling"
>a mod that's hold a unique clone engine limited to 7
>MUGEN worthy
>i never heard nor used Pikeset's BrawlEX (100-slot roster mod)
>what are custom builds
filthy newblood pls go
>>336419005
ah, so you're playing the "pretend to be retarded" card
gotcha, i'll leave you alone. but keep thinking tr4sh is the best game in the franchise for the same reasons brawl was and the new game "won't be" again, anon.
