What are the good sonic games?
>>336395171
First three & Knuckles are all objectively good. CD is subjectively good. Adventure 1&2 range from bad to okay. Heroes is the same. Unleashed is 50% good. Colours and Generations are good.
>>336395171
There's Sonic CD and then there's the rest.
1-3K
>>336395572
That ""HD"" sprite is shit.
The Genny Trilogy (tetralogy?)
Sonic Advance 1
Sonic Rush (though the music does most of the work)
Sonic Generations
I like Sonic Adventure 1 but I wouldn't call it good at all. SA2 just doubles down on all the problems with 1.
Shadow the Hedgehog is good for the purpose of seeing a franchise hit rock bottom
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Sonic CD
Sonic Adventure 1
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Colors
Sonic Generations
Sonic Rush
Sonic Rush Adventure
Sonic Advance 1
Sonic Advance 2
Sonic Advance 3
All-Stars Racing Transformed
>>336395435
This nails most of them. Though you forgot Lost World, which is pretty much on the same level as Adventure1/2/heroes.
>Rush is OK
>Rush adventure is slightly better with a little more replay value
>Advance trilogy is good
>Generations 3ds is boring as fuck
>Battle is good for a gba game
>>336395938
I forgot about the handheld Sonic games, but yeah.
They never stood out to me for some reason.
Sonic chaos, it's where things get strange.
>>336395923
Also consider Sonic Unleashed HD, maybe Sonic Heroes, Sonic Triple Trouble, and Knuckles Chaotix
>>336395938
Lost World is worse than Adventure and Heroes.
Shittier level design, butchered and sloppy controls and mechanics, awful art direction, absolutely shittastic writing and story, loaded with cringe, deadly six are some of the worst characters in the franchise.
>>336396958
I like the art direction and of course the music in Lost World. Plus it actually has difficulty unlike 99% of Sonic games.
>>336396136
>Triple Trouble
Fucking finally, first time I see it mentioned on /v/
>>336396136
You are the first person I have seen who calls it HD. It know it is HD but when I think of that one I just call it Unleashed while the wii one is just the wii version since that one came later.
>>336397091
Plus the free dlc levels were actually fun. Well the Yoshi and zelda stages were at least.
>>336397091
Difficulty for the wrong reasons. Sloppy controls and poor level design are not good difficulty.
The art direction looks like some retards made a bunch of shit in Flash at the last minute. It's a huge downgrade for the main series. Doesn't help that half the fucking game is pretty much variations of Green Hill Zone.
I legitimately don't remember Sonic Unleashed Wii/PS2 other than the fact of having more Werehog stages. (Which I thought were okay for a game made by Dimps, even though I wanted more speed levels.)
>>336397451
>Lost World gets DLC
>Meanwhile the only DLC Generations gets is a fucking pinball table
What a missed oppourtunity
>>336395923
>Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic 2, 3, half of K, Adventure 1, Adventure 2, Advance 1-3, Heroes, Rush, Rush Adventure, Unleashed HD, Colors, Generations
Spin offs: All stars racing, All stars racing transformed,3D Blast,Shadow the hedgehog, Sonic Battle
>>336397927
Yeah, would have loved to see more for generations. At least Generations on PC has some good mods.
>>336398516
>Shadow the hedgehog,
>Good
Surely you jestin
>>336395938
Rush Adventure was awful.
Stick with Rush 1. Better level design and none of that extra adventure crap.
>>336398516
Also forgot Sonic 4 episode 2 and Sonic lost world. Both are decent, 4 is more traditional while lost world is more of a mario game with sonic elements than a straight up sonic game.
>>336398836
For a spin off i think its good. The branching story paths is a great feature, there is lots of content and levels, music is decent, and it makes some improvements on heroes engine.
>>336398893
Rush adventure is a direct upgrade in every way to rush
>>336396136
I think people are kind of harsh on Knuckles Chaotix, it has some issues with the level design, but everything else is great. I'd at least put it in "good."
>>336398997
>. The branching story paths is a great feature, there is lots of content and levels, music is decent, and it makes some improvements on heroes engine.
The branching story paths are a good IDEA. But only in concept. In execution it makes you play the game 10 fucking times, and that'd be not as terrible if every mission that wasn't neutral wasn't absolute shit. The level designs themselves range from passable (Westopolis) to unbearably godawful (Lost Impact). The amount of content the game has doesn't mean shit if only 1/10 of it is actually worth 2 shits.
Sonic1-3+Knuckles
Adventure 1&2
Heroes
Sonic Advance 1 and 2.(3 is shit)
Sonic Rush (not adventure. Also shit)
That's basically it. These are the best. Some just okay. But anything other than this is garbage.
>>336398516
Half of K?
I'll give you Sandopolis and MAYYYBE Death Egg, but what else?
>>336398997
Too much filler and trashy gimmicks that just slow the game down. Level design also took a big hit.
>>336395171
2
3&K
CD
Adventure
Adventure 2
Advance Trilogy
Rush Trilogy
Battle
Racing
Racing Transformed
Generations
Unleashed Project for Generations
If we're counting fangames, then:
Before The Sequel
After The Sequel
Sonic Worlds (If you can get over the strange controls)
Sonic GDK
Sonic FGX
>>336398997
>Rush adventure is a direct upgrade in every way to rush
Yeah, nah. Worse music, unnecessary sailing mini games, and I personally preferred how the original Rush was stylised. Also, no Marine.
>>336395435
heroes is fucking trash, i defy anyone to go back and try to play it and have a good time
>>336395171
None
>>336399305
Ignore that cunt S&K is the best one.
>>336395938
Lost World was awful. it should have been good but they wasted the concept
>>336399367
>all those shit reasons
>doesn't mention the better bosses or level design
yeah alright
>>336399226
>>336399357
No Colors?
>>336395171
INDISPUTABLE SONIC GAMES LIST
MUST PLAY:
>sonic 1
>sonic 2
>sonic 3&K
SHOULD PLAY BECAUSE THEY'RE GREAT:
>sonic CD
>sonic colors
>sonic generations
I GUESS, I MEAN, THEY'RE FUN?
>Sonic Adventure
>Sonic Adventure 2
>sonic unleashed
CUP YOUR DICK NOW
>Sonic Heroes
STOP, DO NOT PLAY
>shadow the hedgehog
>sonic '06
>>336399624
Oh fuck. Colors. Yes. Colors. Yes. I'm a dumdum. Colors as well.
>>336399193
Then i guess well just have to disagree, because i liked a lot of the hero/dark missions and planning a path to take during a playthrough is a novel idea that i dont see often. Its like it was inspired by outrun which i love. There are a few bad levels like lost impact sure but i like a lot of them which balance speed and action well.
>>336399305
Flying battery, sandopolis, lava reef, act 2 of death egg. The only classic sonic shittier than knuckles is 1 and CD.
>>336399352
Filler? You mean fun mini games that pad the game out? Level design was a straight up improvement and levels had better flow, unless you actually liked hits such as altitude limit, mirage road, and huge crisis.
>>336399367
Rush music is some of the worst in the series and i already went over the mini games. I agree that rush had a better more vibrant sugary style that rush adventure lacked in game.
>>336399709
>he doesn't like flying battery zone
>>336399709
>Then i guess well just have to disagree, because i liked a lot of the hero/dark missions and planning a path to take during a playthrough is a novel idea that i dont see often. Its like it was inspired by outrun which i love. There are a few bad levels like lost impact sure but i like a lot of them which balance speed and action well.
Too bad it was absolute fucking garbage in execution. It's not like any of the paths even mattered because the Last Story is the actual canon ending so all that time you spent was fucking wasted. Most of the level design is completely uninteresting and blends together.
>>336399814
I really dont. Sonic 2 and 3 are the height of the classic series and thats about it
>>336395171
Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic 2
Sonic 3
Sonic & Knuckles
Sonic 2 with Sonic & Knuckles attachment
Sonic 3 with Sonic & Knuckles attachment
This thread makes me want a good new Sonic game. Generations was so long ago...
>>336398836
>>336398997
I think it bears the disclaimer that as a SONIC game it is garbage. way too edgy and stupid plot.
in it's own right as a game though, it is surprisingly solid with loads of content.
and for the time it was edgy because that was the trend
>>336399505
What was wrong with Rush Adventure's level design and bosses?
>>336400064
generations also wasnt enough. it was a greatest hits game, but way too short on levels for that kind of thing.
also had a shit final boss
>>336400078
>in it's own right as a game though, it is surprisingly solid with loads of content.
Again, the amount of content doesn't matter if the content itself is garbage. Shadow's core gameplay itself is fine and actually improved a lot of small things. But the game itself is designed like absolute shit. If the game had just been like the neutral path, just having you go to the goal ring, I would have very little problem with it. But the boring as fuck missions just kill the game for me, and forcing 10 complete playthroughs is downright retarded.
>>336400204
nothing
they were a complete improvement in every way. remember those trap rooms in rush. remember those endless bottomless pits? rush 1 is ok but the sequel is way better
>>336400263
>>336400064
this. we need a new big BUDGET sonic game. Unleashed was the last and it shows by far when looking at its scope of it vs colors, gens, lost world. just replace the werehog with knuckles and all will be good.
>>336400332
I think I remember 1 bottomless pit that annoyed me in Rush. That issue is really overblown.
Unleashed baby! Werehog levels kinda suck but the daytime levels are genius
>>336400597
Which is why Generations is the best modern Sonic since it only takes the Day time level gameplay.
>>336400671
>more 2D
>shorter
>slower
>camera is to zoomed in
>less fun exploits to use that open possibilities to go faster than the games limit
Nah. Generations modern is a total letdown from Unleashed day. Unleashed still stands as the best modern sonic game overall if looking at the sonic stages.
>>336400671
I honestly thought they were gonna throw a werehog section in there, seeing as they did a race car section for seaside and a skateboard section for city escape
Glad they opted not to
>>336400332
>>336400545
You guys should play Colors DS, since it's basically Rush 3.
>>336395171
>>336400874
Classic sonics rooftop run, the ending takes place in the same area as the werehogs level did. Going up the skyscraper and finishing on the aqueduct
>>336400930
Wisps and shitty story ruin any version of colors.
>>336401259
It's not like the Rush games had any decent plot.
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic CD
Sonic 3&K
Sonic Adventure 1
Sonic Advance 1
Sonic Heroes
Sonic Rush
Sonic Rush Adventure
Sonic Riders
Sonic Unleashed (ps3/x360 versions)
Sonic and the Black Knight
Sonic 4 episode 1 (its an ok game)
Sonic Generations
Sonic 4 episode 2 (better than ep 1)
Sonic Transformed
These are the ones i enjoyed the most the rest are boring the only real bad ones would be Shadow the Hedgehog, 06 and Secert Rings.
>>336395838
Mecha Sonic's design is shit.
>>336397091
I didn't like the music very much. Pretty bland and forgetful.
>>336401470
Better stories though for sure. I dont like any of the stories in the games since colors. Black knight was the last sonic story i enjoyed.
Sonic 1 - really good
Sonic 2 - great
Sonic CD - good
Sonic 3&K - immaculate
Sonic Adventure 1&2 - good/ok, mileage may vary
Advance 1-2 - really good
Rush - really good
Rush Adventure - good, mileage may vary
Unleashed - good, mileage may vary
Colors (Wii) - really good
Colors (DS) - good
Generations (HD) - great
As an aside, Chaotix, Heroes and Advance 3 are both awful to control and unplayable in comparison to the above. They are not as good as you remember them being, trust me on this. Shadow is Heroes but with guns instead of team switching and with branching paths, so if you can ignore the tryhard edgy, it's objectively a little better than Heroes because it has focus.
Sonic 4 (both episodes) is bland. It's possible to have a good time, but not better than the original Genesis games, by any means.
Anyone who thinks Sonic 06, Rise of Lyric, Unleashed on the Wii or the storybook series (Secret Rings/Black Knight) are good are almost definitely below the age of 13.
Anyone who thinks Mean Bean Machine is worth writing off are sub-human.
>>336398256
>l need e-celebs to tell me what to like !!
Sonic Adventure is the best Sonic game of all time.
ALL TIME.
>Good
-sonic 1
-sonic 2
-sonic & knuckles
-sonic 3 & knuckles
-sonic adventure 2 (dreamcast and gamecube)
-sonic generations
>Acceptable
-sonic 3
-sonic adventure (dreamcast)
-sonic unleashed (wii and 360)
-sonic colors
>Aspergers
-Sonic Heroes
-Sonic Spinball
>Shit
everything else
>Studied at autopsy
Sonic 06
>>336401717
>sonic 1 and cd better than unleashed and colors
lol
Where's the love for Pocket Adventure?
>>336401857
yep
>>336401857
Did I stutter?
Sorry, what I meant to imply was that Sonic 1 and Sonic CD are WAY better than Unleashed and Colors.
>>336399401
>heroes is fucking trash
I played Heroes last year for the first time. I like what it tries. The characters do kinda just shoot off crazily though, so it gets some time getting used to. I tend to think level design in Sonic Heroes deteriorates as you get further and further in the game.
People have said the same thing about Lost World as well, and I would agree. Controls are so weird.
>>336401905
Pocket Adventure is underrated loveliness.
Better than the Game Gear games, even.
>>336401797
Which one? this is some lousy stupid bait
go get hit by a car
>>336401995
>>336401941
lol
Sonic 1 is complete shit after green hill and the only notable level in cd is stardust speedway. Just because theyre 2D and from the 90s MUH CLASSIC SONIC doesnt make them good, fuckboy
>>336402147
>go get hit by a car
Thats some reddit tier insult right there. Why dont you go back?
>>336401838
>Sonic 3
>Acceptable
>Sonic Assventure 2
>Good
You can gtfo with that bs
>>336402381
>Why don't you go back?
>implying i hail from there
fuck that unreadable eyesore of a website
anyway are you going to tell me what e-celeb you're referring to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03z38HtZGsc
>tfw rewatching these and they arent nearly as funny as I used to find them
>>336402624
Oh fuck guys we got another classic sonic fanboy! Clear the way, we have a brand new opinion on the premises! Lets hear his undying love for momentum and hydrocity every body! Without rolling as a ball down a hill, sonic is fucking nothing!
>>336402781
>He likes Sonic 3 more than SA2
>He must be a Classic fanboy
>>336402241
Was that necessary?
Has nothing to be with being 2D. Sonic 4 is 2D, but that's pretty awful. It's about gameplay, consistency and focus. Colors and Unleashed are good, don't get me wrong, but they have a host of issues such as slippery controls, lack of cohesive worldbuilding and progression, and of course that ridiculous Werehog. Meanwhile, Sonic 1 is challenging platforming (which you can overcome most of it if you're actually good at the game) and CD has that awesome time travel mechanic that no game since has ever been able to top in terms of gimmicks that actually aid to the gameplay and exploration in a positive way. Yes, Wacky Workbench is frustrating, but the novelty more than makes up for it.
The platforming in Colors and Unleashed are not well integrated with Sonic's speed mechanics, and are very blocky and meticulous as a result. So that's why I place them a smidgen lower than those Genesis games. But I mean, hey, that's perfectly good reasons to insult someone.
Also, anyone who uses "BUT MUH" as an argument reveals their lack of intelligence. Get off the computer and do your chores, you have school tomorrow.
>>336401717
Unleashed Wii and storybooks games were ok. I'm 27.
Black Knight in particular was a strange case of everything in a game being really good, apart from the gameplay itself, which was still ok.
>>336395171
Spinball
That's it sorry
>>336399401
Nah. I like it. I actually do not understand why people don't like Sonic Heroes. I can understand playing the same shit 4 times and blah blah. But it's good.
>>336402923
Was that necessary?
Has nothing to be with being 3D. Sonic 06 is 3D, but that's pretty awful. It's about gameplay, consistency and focus. 1 and CD are good, don't get me wrong, but they have a host of issues such as slippery controls, lack of cohesive worldbuilding and progression, and of course that ridiculous level design in the form of junk like Marble, Labyrinth, Scrap Brain, Spring Yard, Collision Chaos, Tidal Tempest, Wacky Workbench, and Metallic Madness. Meanwhile, Sonic Unleashed is challenging platforming (which you can overcome most of it if you're actually good at the game) and Colors has that awesome wisp and amusement park mechanic that no game since has ever been able to top in terms of gimmicks that actually aid to the gameplay and exploration in a positive way. Yes, Eggmanland is frustrating, but the novelty more than makes up for it.
The platforming in 1 and CD are not well integrated with Sonic's speed and camera mechanics, and are very slow with tons of easy to hit obstacles and bad object placement as a result. So that's why I place them a smidgen lower than those 3D games. But I mean, hey, that's perfectly good reasons to insult someone.
Also, anyone who uses "BUT MUH" as an argument reveals their lack of intelligence. Get off the computer and do your chores, you have school tomorrow.
>>336403328
It's buggy as all hell, bro. And I played the GC version, which is supposedly the best.
>>336403328
Bad controls, characters don't shut up, team-based gameplay isn't interesting, too much stop-and-go and not enough flow, repetitive and stops being fun after Grand Metropolis, and it sinned against the novelty of a casino/pinball level by making the worst pinball physics ever.
>>336400671
>>336400848
Gentlemen, please. Can't we just agree that The Unleashed Project for Generations is the best of either of them?
>>336403605
Ive been playing heroes since january 5, 2004 and have encountered zero game breaking glitches and a few handfuls of collision and physics related glitches.
You holding backwards while going through a loop instead of forward doesnt mean the game is glitchy bro
>>336403580
I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or autism, because like.. 90% of this is factually wrong.
>>336403774
>collision and physics related glitches
Well, that's mostly what I meant. It just ruins the flow, which is one of the most important things in Sonic games. It was particularly bad in Special Stages.
>>336403580
lmao this is the most juvenile thing
>>336403786
Not as any wrong as yours. You criticize worldbuilding and cohesion, yet Unleashed by far has the best worldbuilding, quite literally so even, in the series. Sonic Colors has a gimmick that encourages exploration. Sonic Unleashed at day is pure speed and at night is a mix of interesting 3D platforming and combat. Sonic Colors novelty comes from its wacky zones, as does Unleasheds for its very strong attempt at recreating real world locations.
You dont like them because theyre A) they're 3D B) related to A, they're hated by most for being 3D C) its not what you grew up with D) you want to fit in with everyone else E) MUH PHYSICS SONIC CANT ROLL DOWN A HILL ANYMORE 0/10 BY DEFAULT
>>336403605
>buggy as hell
no.. no it isn't.. I have never encountered a "bug".
>>336403635
>bad controls
controls work fine. you learn them in a second.
>characters don't shut up
>shit rock eh!
so?
>team-based gameplay isn't interesting
i disagree, but that's really just your opinion.
>too much stop and go and not enough flow
but the game revolves around flying, strength, and speed? I'm speeding through as shadow in his section, then flow into strength crushing the enemies as i go, or I switch back to speed, and then the flying sections are the slowest but they aren't enough to break the 'flow'.
only thing i agree on is the last one. they could have done that better.
>>336403580
>>336403580
>actually implying that any recent Sonic game is better than Sonic CD
gr8 b8 m8
>>336404053
>>336404237
>>336404535
Clear the room everyone, more classic sonic fanboys rolling through! 2D and rolling ball physics = good by default!
>he fell for the Sonic CD meme
>he thinks it's good just because it's pretty and has high quality music
>he thinks the time traveling is a great way to "expand the gameplay" rather than a frustrating mechanic that slows down the levels and ultimately feels like an obstacle
Nothing after the genesis games is any better than ok.
Call me a nostalgia fag if you want, but that's honestly how the series pans out.
And no, Colors/Generations are not good.
>>336404146
Most of your rebuttal is "it's my opinion" and anecdotal evidence
lol
>>336404731
>If he disagrees with me he must be a classic Sonic fanboy
>>336404731
go back to the Adventure 3 facebook forums
>>336395171
Those I enjoy
Sonic 1,2,3&K
Sonic CD
Knuckles Chaotix
Sonic 1 (game gear)
Sonic Triple Trouble (game gear)
Sonic Riders
Sonic Generations
Sonic Advance 1,2,3
Sonic Rush
Sonic Rush Adventure
>>336404731
This is an 18+ board.
>>336404731
Actually correct, though
>>336404731
umad?
>>336404739
Yeah, I didn't dig CD either. All the time travelling shit was a cool idea on paper, but in practice I didn't like it. It definitely felt like a continuation of the vibe the first game had.
The Sonic titles I still enjoy to this day are:
- 2
- 3
- & Knuckles
- Advance 1
- Advance 3
- Colors
- Generations
Adventure 1 and 2 both gave me motion sickness when I returned to them.
>>336404798
The only opinion based things I have said were about the characters not shutting up and team based gameplay not being interesting. Which is what (you) have said before? So I'm replying to those? When I first stated how it was bad? And you gave those "muh opinion anecdotal evidence"?
??? Are you retarded??
>>336404848
>>336404932
>>336405028
>>336405059
Shit theyre hitting hard today guys!
I cant wait till all you oldfags fuck off and die already. Anytime someone wants to discuss 3D sonic, some classic sonic faggot always storms in and says lol play 2D sonic instead its better bro XD haha look the internet and ign agrees with me! Gonna be a great day
>>336405186
yes, I am and you just made me cry :,(
enjoy your steaming hot trash of a game
>>336405242
I like 3D Sonic games, though. I just think Sonic in 2D has been consistently better, and that Colors and Unleashed are, by their own merit, not up to snuff, even though they're pretty good.
>>336405242
>I can't refute their arguments so I'll call them a Classic fanboy, that'll show them!
>>336405242
>being this autistic
>>336405242
Is that anyway to treat your elders, Timmy?
>>336405272
i will enjoy 'sonic heroes'.
you enjoy being a steaming hot trash of a person.
>>336405648
kek
>>336405648
maaaaybe
>>336405410
And I think 3D sonic hasnt been as consistent but way more fun. I grew up with 3D sonic, tried 2D sonic, and found most of them are garbage except 2 and 3. Yet no one here can seriously think this is a real opinion. At least youre not as autistic as
>>336405412
>>336405515
>>336405648
and can still enjoy the 3D sonic games.
>>336405684
lmao this guy
>>336405802
>and can still enjoy the 3D sonic games.
Nigga I love both 2d and 3D Sonic games (Hell I'm probably one of the few people who will defend Black Knight [and Secret Rings to a lesser extent] ) , but your argument was pretty shit
>>336405885
>LMFAO
>LOL
>THAT GUY
>I CRY EVERYTEIM
shut the fuck up already brah
>>336395171
A bunch that aren't yet made.
>>336405802
It's funny how that works out, though. You grew up with 3D Sonic, I grew up with 2D Sonic. That does kind of shape our opinions. I still wanna keep it civil, though.
>>336405272
>>336405684
Neither of you are helping
>>336404739
>>336405954
Eat my shorts
>>336405998
this makes me sigh
>>336405908
There is no need to have an argument since anything you write up will be deconstructed and end with "2D sonic is way better any day of the week bro it just is, you can roll and...the music and the levels are fun and..."
>>336406012
Thats why I said I can't wait till the oldfags fuck off already so people that enjoy a broader range of sonic outside of 1991-1994 can talk about it without some faggot coming in and comparing the new ones to the old ones.
>>336406112
This is still the best thing Sonic Boom has ever produced
>>336395171
>>336405954
ayyy lmao this guy gets it
>>336395171
Anything other then 1,2,3, and K is good. Only the 3d ones are worth playing, people like to pretend 3d didn't evolve the series. Start with the dreamcast games, only gets better from there.
>>336406293
>>336406118
Lick the duck butter from under my nut sack.
>>336406012
The fuck did you just say to me bitch? I don't even know you, cunt. You want me to jump into your little shit fit? Okay.
So you grew up with 2D Sonic, the other guy grew up with 3D Sonic. Did you both have sex with him too?
Why don't you both suck each other's dicks? I grew up with both, because I like both. I lean towards 3D Sonic more,
>>336395171
First 3 are amazing. Sonic CD is my personal GOAT. Adventure 1/2 are good, but they made some massive fuck-ups and it's where the series began to lose what made it great. Heroes is pretty good overall, but would be the best 3D Sonic game with a few changes, namely NO FUCKING ENEMY HP, fix the method of accessing the final story, and especially the controls. Unleashed is good day, meh night. Colors is good. Generations is the best of the 3D games.
>>336406176
I mean, I guess, but this IS 4chan we're talking about. they're probably better without that anonymous filter haha. Better off discussing it at one of those Sonic forums or something.
Elder God Tier:
>Allstars Racing Transformed
Top Tier
>Sonic 3K
>Generations
You're Pretty Good Tier:
>Sonic 1
>Sonic 2
>Sonic CD
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Sonic Advance 1-3
>Sonic Colors
>Half of Unleashed
I've Seen Worse Tier:
>Most of the Master System/Game Gear titles
>Sonic Riders + Zero Gravity
>Sonic Rush + Rush Adventure
>Chaotix
>Sonic Heroes
>Sonic Battle
>Segasonic The Hedgehog
>Sonic The Fighters
Not So Good Tier:
>Secret Rings
>Black Knight
>Lost World
>3D Blast
>Olympics
Bad Tier:
>Shadow The Hedgehog
>Sonic 06
>Sonic 4
Oh Dear God Why Tier:
>Sonic Boom
>>336406429
>Better off discussing it at one of those Sonic forums or something.
You know the fucked up thing is that 4chan really is the only place worth discussing Sonic, and this is coming from someone who's dabbled in a good amount of Sonic-related forums
>>336406364
oh lawdy, such language! I definitely have to take you seriously kno- wait
>unironically likes Heroes
that explains it, yep
>>336406364
lol don't have a cow dude
>>336406429
Ive tried other forums. Sega forums, sonic retro, a bunch of other smaller fan sites. The general opinion and remarks are the SAME EVERYWHERE. Holy fuck you dont even realize. Being a bigger 3D sonic fan than 2D sonic fan is one of the hardest spots to be in in the gaming community because theres always someone who wants to get into a shitty scuffle over how much better genesis sonic was. I dont care for it at all and just want to talk 3D sonic in peace. You know the funniest part? From what i remember, the official sega forums sonic section had more people hating on sonic to fit in than people actually enjoying it.
And despite all that, this is still one of the better places for that, even though every sonic thread is 90% of the same posts regurgitated as "play 1-3k and cd, everything is literally 0/10 trash XD" I just need to fuck off the internet forever at this point, since i cant fit in anywhere
>>336406364
lol are you actually taking the bait
this is my best day ever
like I was kinda feelin for you with Heroes and everything at first but you're a pretty awful person after this
can we all agree though that sonic advance 1-3 were hands down good games despiite them each messing around with new mechanics they were all a solid game a piece?
>>336406592
>oh lawdy, such language!
>i definitely have to take you seriously
Haha, you're a enormous humongous gigantuan faggot. You seriously think I'm being serious with my cursing? You fucking soggy carton of milk?
Yes, I "unironically" like Sonic Heroes. My favorite Sonic game desu would have to be Sonic CD probably. There is nothing bad about Heroes, I already explained that, so stop licking around my cockhead to try and convince me otherwise.
>>336406717
lick my duck butter
>>336406793
Man, having shit taste must suck, sorry to hear that man.
>>336406921
I think Advance 2s boost mechanic was genius, and I'm one of those "oldfags" that keeps being called out
Oh and I like the 3D games too, just not Unleashed. I prefer Lost World and I don't care how "bad" it is compared to the Adventures. Generations is pretty gun tho.
>>336395171
CD > 3&K > Generations > Advance 3 > Advance 2 > Colors > Adventure > Adventure 2 > Heroes > 1 > Rush > 2 > Rest
>>336407051
Oh shit the classic sonic autist army is back!
>>336406951
Okay I was gonna do another 90s catch phrase to spice up the irony but what the holy giblet is "duck butter" supposed to mean.
>>336395171
Unpopular opinion: Sonic was NEVER good
I only liked it back then because the graphics were so dazzling, the gameplay was inherently flawed in it's design from day one.
>>336407214
>from urban dic
The combination of sweat from the ballsac and anus that creates a buttery film on the grundle and butthole. occuring usually from an unwashed scrotum creating a smelly odor that worsens in thickness and odor by the minute. Also known as DB or Deeb.
>>336407257
It's not easy to "get" the design language of the 2D Sonic games, but once you get the hang of it it's really fun. I love bouncing really fast across all the levels and skipping over platforming bits. It rewards you when you master the level and controls.
But opinions, I wont judge.
>>336407257
Fuck off.
>>336407181
Oh shit, the nugamer "grafix>gameplay" dumbfucks are back.
Gaming has been shit for the last 20 years. Get over it, kids.
mario is better
>>336407516
crash is better
>>336407428
I can get why people like them, I could just never get the hang of it and preferred to watch others
>>336407441
okay
So since I'm a nice guy, who wants a link to all relevant Sonic Soundtracks with a couple of rare ones? in FLAC? No bullshit. Just go to one, click flac, and download on right.
Recently played After the Sequel, pretty high tier fan game.
OST is fucking nice also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4soMg9oRamM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAdCwP1jByw
>>336401660
The hell?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwQQGicfI2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l1HUDuzyrk
>>336407549
>>336407516
bubsy is best
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
>>336407715
don't forget to show that retarded faggot this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8cLe9ZUh1w
>>336407770
bubsy a shit and a tranny.
mario best
>>336407857
I enjoy heroes, whats the problem?
>>336407909
3D Sonic-hating "oldfag" here (doesn't actually hate 3D Sonic, but strawmen are funny so I'll roll with it)
I love this one. Not sure it fits in a Sonic level, honestly, but I mean it's beautiful and it's great.
Lost World had some really cool ideas, it's just not as good as I thought it was going to be. I prefer Adventure 2, desu. (treasure hunting and all)
>>336407451
What the hell. 20 years? Youre not even an oldfag, you must be an ancientfag born in the 50s or 60s
>>336407857
Bruh. I didn't expect you to go and do that. You must be fucking bored, lmao.
Yes, I'll say it again. There. Is. Nothing. Bad. About. Sonic. Fucking. Heroes. Except. Fucking. Pinball.
If you don't like it, it's your opinion. But nobody has ever even given me any good reasons as to why it's bad.
>>336408031
I'd play a tranny Bubsy game
>>336408032
The problem is that Sonic Heroes is not good. Like, idk how many people have explained this to you.
>>336407857
Sounds like you're salty someone likes what you don't.
Wheres Unleashed-kun?
>>336408194
I think it's good.
>>336408108
>But nobody has ever even given me any good reasons as to why it's bad.
Bad collision detection. Repetitive gameplay. Nothing new, interesting or unique in the game design.
>>336408313
same.
>>336408108
Was gonna list it off but man I'm just not into it anymore. Life sucks for me right now. But yeah Heroes isn't awful, just not good. It's not flawless, and the controls are slippery. when they talk a lot, i'm talking about "we're not going there, are we!?" and "I'LL TAKE THE LEAD" and any soundbyte that plays. It's annoying and it sucks me out of the experience. Heroes coulda been really good but it's small choices like that which stack up.
but whatever. like, it's alright you like Heroes, sorry I made a macro in MS paint about it.
And yeah I'm... bored. with everything. life. whatever. bye.
>>336408508
lol did this fag just question his existence over Sonic
>>336408301
He was already here. Ranting and raving about how people are recommending competent games over Unleashed.
>>336408671
That wasnt the real unleashed-kun. Pretty sure he said colors sucks ass and the other guy here was saying colors is good. The real unleashed-kun says its the best game in the series.
And I dont know what youre smoking, but Unleashed is very competent
>>336408454
Ugh. Alright, I'll do it again.
>bad collision detection
Never experienced it. This isn't a fucking hockey game.
>Repetitive gameplay
Sure, there is repetitive gameplay between the four teams if you so desire to unlock the final ending, which I'm sure you went and did anyway, because you love and care about 100% completeion in Sonic games. However, I wouldn't make that a point, because the design was typically for people who wanted to go through which one they felt was good for them. Did you seriously go and complete it in one sitting? Repetitiveness isn't inherently bad. See, Sonic Advance.
Uhh, lets see here
>nothing new blah blah
team gameplay.
moving on
>>336408508
>controls are slippery
ah this one again. you mean when you move around in circles you feel that he keeps running a bit even after you stop? welcome to sonic.
im not even gonna bother replying to the rest. why dont you come here and lay your head on my lap, with my cock in your face? would that make you feel better anon? <3
>>336409203
>edit
>except for the pinball area, which I'm sure you already knew
>>336407051
bruh, i play all stars racing trasformed over s3k at any opportunity. also adventure 1 is more memorable than any genesis game.
>>336409203
>Never experienced it.
Nigga, I had my team stop dead in their tracks and face me in the middle of a special stage with no reason whatsoever. I don't care how many pairs of rose tinted glasses you're wearing, the collision detection in Heroes was bad.
>which I'm sure you went and did anyway
I completed the game with all four teams and collected all emeralds to get the true ending. Didn't get all A ranks to unlock hard more, because fuck that. I actually don't hate Heroes, and would normally even defend it, but it is seriously flawed.
>team gameplay.
Done before and better.
>you'll never raise chaos again
>you'll never get chao garden simulator the game
>>336409203
Did you actually make a new thread over this?
>tfw no sonic genesis game with sonic ova elements
it would be nice to see a metal robotnik boss fight like in the ova
>>336410084
>done before and better
not in sonic
I've never experienced any collision detection. If there is, it's very basic, and just like bugs, you could or could not experience them, so I wouldn't make it a point.
You call that serious flaws? What else?
>>336410216
the fuck are you talking about
unpopular opinion:the only 3d sonic game i hated to that point was 06, and a lesser extent. colors.
>>336408194
>You can't like something until your e-celeb memelords have given it their seal of approval first
this site is for people who are 18+, kiddo
>>336410387
>I've never experienced it.
But I HAVE experienced it, as has literally evergone else.
Let me guess, you never found a glitch in Sonic 06 either, hm?
Also, my bad on the thread comment. Bit someone made a Heroes thread less than 15 minutes ago. Maybe that kid who said he was going to to kill himself made it?
>>336410462
It is not that unpopular. Adventure games and even heroes were well received back then. I personally liked all them but heroes, and fucking secret rings, that was lame.
>>336410387
>You call that serious flaws? What else?
Well, I concede defeat. If you don't think that the lack of polish that apparently everyone else but you noticed, and the fact that the game is bland and doesn't try to differentiate itself from other platformers are "serious flaws," more power to you. I'm glad you're content with your game. Just don't act that surprised that others aren't.
>>336403328
I liked heros a lot i had fun i got best rank with all the characters and i was hyped as fuck fighting the hidden final boss. Possibly my favorite sonic game.
so whats up with people not liking sonic advance 3?
i even see posts now where people like sonic advance 2, which used to be universally disliked here
sonic boom
>>336411274
SONIC BOOM
>>336411115
Not that guy but
>everyone else noticed
>trying to belittle the point by generalizing everyone
>not recognizing others have different tastes and opinions to yourself
Speak for yourself.
It's time to stop posting, 'anon'
Heroes is alright, but I don't understand how people say there aren't any problems with it. It's slippery to control (unlike Adventures which are smooth and solid) and it's not got any flsense of momentum, just a bunch of stop and go.
>>336411149
Advance 3 is okay. The music and some of the level tropes are the only things I really like about it. Would be my favorite one if it had better level design.
>>336410896
sonic 06 is a different story. I experienced bugs here and there, but for sonic heroes nope. I may have been dashing one year, one day, trying to get that chaos emerald, and I stopped for a second, then continued to chase after said emerald. but no, "literally" nobody has experienced it, except for a few mockers on 4chan who just love to exaggerate and make things seem more worse than they are for literally everything.
probably. i haven't even switched tabs. i'm working on the hydrus client.
>>336411115
>apparently everyone else
again, only 4chinz. game is not bland, already said this. team gameplay is new to the sonic series, and i haven't found any other platformer that does exactly what this does, if there is, it is obscure, therefore it doesn't even matter whatever you are saying.
>lack of polish
alright, the pinball section as i've said before was bad, that could have been "polished" and i guess the developers could have waited a year or two to "polish" up the game so you could have never experienced that bug when you played as big the cat, or when you were chasing that emerald and trying to go around the entire tunnel and stopped...i guess they could have.
>just don't act surprised that others arent
I AM NOT SURPRISED ONE BIT. I think I am well aware what this entire "entity" called 4chan and it's collective sheeple think about every. fucking. game. I do. It's getting tiring having to come in here and see someone say stupid shit. But you know, gotta defend muh opinions.
>>336411134
last boss was pretty hype
>>336411149
The air momentum and inertia. It's awful. Something is off about how the characters move, and the level design doesn't match it. It's like Sonic was built to go really fast but the levels are designed to go slow half the time.
>>336395435
>CD is subjectively good
Bullshit
CD is the weakest out of the classics but it's definitely a good game
Unleashed,Generations and Colors suck
>>336411891
2 is the weakest of the classic games, take off your nostalgia goggles
>>336411149
Advanced 2 was my favorite of the Advances.
>That boss rush at the end.
>>336411149
If it can help you, I don't like that much both of them. They have some merits, like trying to do something different from the genesis games, unlike the first advance game, but they both fall short. Advance 2 became boring fast for me. After the emeralds, I felt no reason to replay it. 3 has the best team system in the franchise, but atrocious level design, wonky collisions and a general lack of polish. I remember that level on a moving platform in a corrupted angel island, nice setting but the level itself was at least bad as mirage road in rush.
>>336395171
Sonic 1,2,CD,3K and Advance 1 are the only good ones and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise because if they do they're full of shit
The Game Gear/Master System titles and Pocket Adventure are a fun diversion too but that's about it
Everything after Advance 1 is downright mediocre
>>336411965
>2 is the weakest of the classic games
No it isn't
3K>1>2>CD
You have to play CD a certain way(explore for robot generators and shit) to enjoy it at it's fullest potential because the levels aren't that fun if you just play them normally hence why it's the weakest
>>336412204
>It has more depht so it's the weakest
What kind of shitty logic is this?
>>336399709
>>336399917
Sonic 2 is objectively worse than 1 you fucking faggot with no taste
And you don't like Flying Battery and Lava Reef because you fucking suck at them git gud faggot
>>336401857
Kill yourself you fucking nigger
Unleashed and Colors are garbage and are nowhere even near the Master System Sonic Games let alone the main ones on the Genesis
Quick, post your favourite zone in the franchise
Hydrocity
>>336402241
git gud faggot
>>336402781
kys scum
>>336403656
Modern Seaside Hill shits on any Unleashed Level so no
>>336412942
Marble Garden or bust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXwkix0J4og
>>336405802
>I grew up with 3D sonic
that automatically makes your opinion irrelevant
>>336413218
Where were you when anons in sonic threads hated marble garden? I felt helpless.
>>336412942
I've always liked Spring Yard for its aesthetic and music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vp5aMPAUYQ
>>336412561
>It has more depht
No it doesn't
It's the most shallow one out of the classics and goes against the original sonic design mentality(which is to give freedom to the player to play how they want)
>>336413218
this
>>336413402
i frequently defend that zone from these faggots and in other sites too
that zone is a masterpiece in terms of level design and faggots just don't like it because it isn't "m-uh shiny eyecandy level"
frustrates the fuck out of me really how shallow people can be to not appreciate such genius
>>336413218
>those cringey vocals
plz stop advertising your shit vids here
>>336407697
Technology Tree stage song is pretty good
>>336395171
Sonic 1, 2, 3
Sonic Advance 1, 2, 3
Sonic Rush, Adventure
My favorite zones from each relevany game:
Sonic 1: Star Light Zone
Sonic 2: Casino Night Zone
Sonic CD: Quart Quadrant
Sonic 3: Hydro City Zone
Sonic & Knuckles: Lava Reef Zone
Sonic 3D Blast: Rusty Ruin Zone
Sonic Adventure: Windy Valley
Sonic Adventure 2: Metal Harbor
Sonic Advance: Casino Palace
Sonic Advance 2: Hot Crater
Sonic Heroes: ________
Shadow the Hedgehog: Circus Park
Sonic Unleashed: Savannah Citadel
Sonic Colors: Aquarium Park
Sonic 4: White Park Zone
Sonic Lost World: Windy Hill Zone
From the entire list, Hydro City Zone, if I had to pick just one.
Sonic Dreams Collection
Bump3D Sonic > 2D Sonic :)
>there are people who rank Boom below '06
>>336395435
Sonic 3 & Knuckles is the absolute undisputed pinnacle of the series. Maximum amount of quality content relative to negative content.
Sonic CD is the most patrician entry in the series. It requires finer taste to appreciate, and it's repulsive until finer taste is developed.
Sonic 2 is the most plebian entry in the series. Not a bad thing, it's just the most commonly remembered and accessible. Actually my all time favorite game.
Sonic 1 is patient zero, and thus earns a novelty all its own. Not as accessible, and not of as high a level of quality as the above three, but still solid in its own right once it is mastered.
Sonic Generations has the most solid gameplay assortment and quality control seen after 3K. It was also a love letter to the fanbase of the above four games, earning it extra points.
Tails Adventure is unique, in that it's more of a Metroidvania, and a good one at that. This one is best emulated, since the Game Gear is shit.
Sonic Advance is the next best thing if you're craving the classic gameplay style and physics. Pretty solid in its own right.
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle is controversial, but I think it introduced the best alternate gameplay mode. It involves deeper strategy and planning than other the side gameplay of other games. To the point where the intended main gameplay is consequently relegated to mini-games meant for complementing the Chao Raising. Also made for a solid multiplayer party game.
Sonic VR is a great rom hack. You're basically traversing difficult levels that require mastery over Sonic's physics and arsenal of tricks. Turns it into a solid puzzle game.
>>336402241
>Sonic 1 is complete shit after green hill and the only notable level in cd is stardust speedway.
>wahhh Sonic is only good when you're going fast!
holy shit stop
Chao Garden for best Sonic game.
>>336418543
Very high quality post for /v/, pic included.
You are a rare gem my friend.
