so /v/, tell me why elitist min-maxing faggots are ruining games?
Why would they do that?
People just want to have fun.
>>336392995
if you aren't crushing scrubs with the most optimal build, you aren't really having fun
>>336393187
but what is fun anon?
don't you derive fun from animations? gameplay itself? music? crafted world?
>>336393332
In any adversarial game mode, your objective is to win.
Most people try to make winning as easy as possible by streamlining their character.
Is this really difficult for you to comprehend?
>>336393567
>Is this really difficult for you to comprehend?
it is not, still going full tryhard homo and raging at others ruins the game for everyone
>>336393716
It's a game you faggot, you whining about someone else having a bigger virtual cock than you ACTUALLY ruins the game for everyone who really just wants to play the goddamn game.
>There are people who use guides to make sure they don't miss sidequests on their first playthrough
>>336394536
someone is getting upset :^)
Is that Twilight Sparkle from Equestria Girls?
Games with actual min maxing gets rid of the fun in games, when I want to compete I'll play a fighting or racing game.
>>336392995
>People just want to have fun.
Stopped reading there.
>>336395409
>Stopped reading there.
guess you are one of those tryhard faggots
>>336395346
Sauce? Google gives me too many results...
>>336392995
>People just want to have fun.
Most fun can be had when you're winning
>>336395346
What the fuck? I thought this was only in black and white?
>>336396679
The title I have it saved under is:
(C79) [Okina Keikaku (Shiwasu no Okina)] PANTY (Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt)(English)=Little White Butterflies=
Look it up on sadpanda or similar.
>Have friends A, B, and C
>Get game X and recommend it because I love it
>It's time for some motherfucking BRO-OP
>A and B are having fun
>C isn't
>C ragequits and disappears
>A, B, and I continue playing
>Dude where's C he's been gone for like a week
>C comes back and has been studying wikis like a fucking autist
>C comes in with a completely min/maxed character and steam rolls through the game
>Everybody just wanted to play to have fun but C had to make it all serious and awkward
>C is now the unquestioned master of this game, anything you say he can and will completely debunk with his now completely autistic obsession with making sure he is the best ever at this game
>Game X now isn't fun to play
>Game Y comes out
>Really having fun, introduce it to friends A, B, and C
>Rinse and repeat for about 15 years
If it's a co-op game with RPG elements or equipment of any kind, you can bet friend C has ruined it for all of us
Don't be that guy, /v/
>>336393567
it's more than that, people will do anything to avoid a fair fight
>>336395115
That's Stocking you fucking faggot.
>>336399546
Thanks but 4chan isn't your personal blog
>>336399724
Yes it is, you fuck off.
>>336399724
>Thread is about min/maxing faggots
>Talk about my experience with a min/maxing faggot
>HURR NICE BLOG
This is my favorite meme
You faggots are getting out of control with how much I see that shit getting posted these days
>>336392995
>>336393187
>Using P&S to shitpost
Should be a banable offence.
>>336399546
>mad because your friend is better at games than you
Sounds like you and your other friends are just a bunch of casuals.
But the only way I can have fun is by winning. Youre not like that as well?I bet you dont even play stall.
>>336399873
I wouldn't even complain if it wasn't the worst story ever told, like holy fuck its the most "who fucking cares" paragraph ever
>needing min-maxing to win
That shit is only relevant at top levels of gameplay, and I'm sure as hell no one in this thread is even close to that.
>>336399546
if it's tabletop the DM needs to slap his shit for power gaming
>>336393567
Winning with the most optimal set up is boring though, many people do not use the most optimum things or follow the "meta" so strictly, preferring instead to experiment and flex the limits of the game. These people, who are already good enough to follow the standard meta fully but forgo it, are often the ones that discover what in the future becomes the new meta. People see their crazy gimmicky shit doing so well and emulate, and suddenly the gimmicky shit is what all the people who only care about winning copy.
>>336399965
>Sounds like you and your other friends are just a bunch of casuals.
sounds like you are that one faggot who has to ruin it for X number of people so you can stroke your e-dick
>>336392995
Any game with builds as a potential modifier to win/lose conditions is basically competitve garbage. Don't worry OP, you're playing with people that can't hack it in actual PvP games, but you're still scrub-a-dub.
>>336392995
>People who think min-maxing is bad
>>336399546
I remember when Torchlight 2 first came out me and my friends co-oped through the whole game on release week. We all played it for the very first time together and chose different classes. Right when we spawned, one friends first instinct was to study our abilities and talents and shit. Everybody else's instinct was to FUCKING GO LETS FUCK SHIT UP FIGURE IT OUT LATER. We only.learned shit on the fly or during inventory management. It was fast paced and fun, since learning was incorporated into progression. This fucking autist though, he always insisted on staying in like one fucki g spot for 15 minutes at a time all throughout the campaign even when we took like half hour breaks to get food and the like. And his autism was so strong that he said "wait up for me guys I have something to do real quick" so we said alright sure whatever.
We started to talk and kinda forgot about moving through the game for a bit. Literally a fucking hour later we remembered we had a game to play, and turned to friend C to find out what the fuck up. It turned out that motherfucker was going back through all of the fucking map to 100% explore every inch of the maps we've been through after we agreed as long as we get the quests and dungeons we're not gonna waste our time. This motherfucker wasted all of our time because he wanted those maps 100% revealed. Not exactly like your situation but still a 'friend C' type thing to do.
DONT BE THAT FUCKING GUY, /v/.
>>336392995
It's their way of having fun: being strong and better at the game than other people. They are just playing according to the rules of the game, no more no less.
My personal way of having fun is being a contrarian hipster and optimizing unviable trash to the max, and then either taking great pride in winning against said tryhard optimizers or going full "w-well my build is just unconventional h-haha" if I lose.
People like different things, also the sky is blue.
>Alterac Valley
>why would I want a cool long lasting fight with different npc forces mixed in when I could win/lose as fast as possible to jump in the next one and maximize honor
I was glad when I could opt out of the shithole those people turned av into
>>336399965
Actually he fucking sucks at pretty much every game he touches, he only manages to get by when he uses guides or wikis. We can only play co-op games with him, because if we play multiplayer games against him we stomp his ass so hard he flies into a rage and starts breaking shit.
It's his tryhard/perfectionist attitude in every single fucking thing we've ever done as friends that drives us all up the wall. I blame him being a spoiled only child. I don't understand how a grown ass man can still act like he does.
>>336400225
Funny you mention that
When we play D&D we use pathfinder rules because none of us really know how to play, and we're trying to learn so we can ease into the big boy stuff
This fucking nigger strolls up with a character he made using D&D 4.0 rules so every time he takes a turn it takes an extra ten minutes for him to do all of his bullshit, we just stopped playing because we couldn't deal with it anymore
>>336400428
>Right when we spawned, one friends first instinct was to study our abilities and talents and shit. Everybody else's instinct was to FUCKING GO LETS FUCK SHIT UP FIGURE IT OUT LATER
>t turned out that motherfucker was going back through all of the fucking map to 100% explore every inch of the maps we've been through after we agreed as long as we get the quests and dungeons we're not gonna waste our time. This motherfucker wasted all of our time because he wanted those maps 100% revealed
Nailed it, that's him to a T
There's nothing wrong with min/maxing, wouldn't you want to be as effective as you can be? But then you also got raging faggots who can't remove their mouth from the meta's dick and insist you have to play THIS way.
Like fucking hell these same assholes somehow permeate co-op games against NPCs, it's ridiculous and just saps all the fun out of the games. Especially when things don't go their way.
>mfw lose 40 minutes of progress in Payday 2 'cause another player didn't pick up the bitch baby host first (two downed same spot)
>despite having 4 hostages to trade
>>336400417
>people who think min-maxing is good
>>336400698
>Scrubs who can't deal with a little more damage
>>336400459
>also the sky is blue.
holy shit, it really is. Thanks anon, i've been living a lie my whole life
>>336392995
>gf playing gw2
>join here from time to time because Jumping Puzzle are fun
>"there are new jp's. Let's do them anon. A friend will join too"
>"okay cool"
>friend joins Channel
>"okay before we start. I sent you a link to a Walkthrough so we don't miss any achievements"
Fuck you! I want to explore this together with my gf and don't care about your shit achievement s
>>336400945
but anon! my e-dick!
>>336399546
I bet C is also the guy who invites you to play MMOs but then;
>doesn't make a new character to play with you and wants to boost you straight to end game as possible
>makes a new character to play with you, with the same intention of getting you as fast to end game as possible
>doesn't make a new character and just dumps you to play on your own, despite begging for you to play with them
Pick one, two or three it's all C.
>>336400876
i like Panty and Stocking so i will let it slide
>>336401317
I read all three of your points and I can sum them all up as either Guild Wars 2 or Payday 2, both of which are games that fit all three of those that friend C has ruined for us.
>>336392995
What's with all this barney shit being posted lately? Is it all from Barneyfag?
>>336401479
>barney shit
do you even animu
>>336401479
I don't think it's from MLP, just the same style, or some kind of MLP spinoff. I think it might be from the same creator idk
>>336401479
>>336401678
>>336401531
Pretty sure it's equestria girls.
>>336401441
Yup I've experienced every single one, Payday 2 especially for the boosting holy goddamn shit what a fucking awful person.
Like I just started, I haven't even touched anything in the menus and the motherfucker drags me into fucking Deathwish, then rages at me for dying so easily and ragequits hosting when I get jailed. I removed that cunt, had enough of his shit that day, almost ruined the entire game for me.
>>336401479
OP is just a faggot so he posts Equestria Girls shit
>>336402175
>>336402239W-we're just pretending to be retarded, right?
>>336401479
>>336401678
>>336401986
>>336402175
>>336402239
Is this bait?
I dont even like anime and I know who it is just from browsing here.
>>336402239
thanks for dooming this thread posting this.
you fucking fag
>>336402239
i know this is bait but i'm gonna post this anyway
know your animu faggot.
you are on chinese image board
>>336402590
Third post was me baiting.
I am actually a shitposter.
>>336402614
Take your barney threads back to /mlp/ and maybe I won't shit them up then. this shit is just as bad as e-celebs and gamergate/sjw discussion
>>336402863
i can't tell anymore if you are just shitposting or actually retarded beyond this mortal plane :^)
>>336402568
>>336402590
>>336402792
This was all me just baiting. I'm shit posting mlp and I'm sorry
>>336402960
i don't really care cause i visit /mlp/ :^)
you're gonna get my thread deleted though bruh
not nice