http://www.eurogamer.it/articles/2016-05-03-news-videogiochi-insider-conferma-esistenza-di-xbox-next
>"I've got to read some slides from Microsoft and AMD about the new Xbox, and it is in effect a new model, not a remake of One. They should announce this year at a separate event from E3 2016, but still a few days before the fair. the announcement will be made this year but the release of the Xbox next is not expected before next spring, to read the roadmap. it will be open to change hardware, I did not understand if via upgrade or if they spoke of changes that will operate on the fly, before the release. it will be extremely powerful from the start, i think 5-6 times PS4 Neo, then something in the order of over 10 TFLOPS or so. "
>it will be extremely powerful from the start, i think 5-6 times PS4 Neo, then something in the order of over 10 TFLOPS or so
SONYGAF LITERALLY ON SUICIDE WATCH
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1214423
>>336368842
> i think 5-6 times PS4 Neo,
Will it also cost 5-6 the time of the PS4k?
Tfw got an xbone a few months ago
I truly hate short gen life spans.
>>336369058
7th gen was just unusually long, 8th gen is about as long as gen 1-6 were.
? This will be priced high, alienate the current Zero games Xbox One fanbase who are trying to do their best to enjoy the paperweight they own by praising Games with Gold and ultimately flop on its face
>>336368842
>Next console generation
>More powerful than the previous
WOW! YOU DON'T SAY!
>>336369160
The kind of tech that goes into game consoles is slowing down, budgets are going up, and the player base is contracting. Generations should be longer, not shorter.
>>336369287
They are saying it's most powerful than Sony's new console too idiot
this gen was literally filler to hold us off until 4k. cant believe nobody saw this shit coming. i knew something fucky was going on when xbox and shitstation 4 offered literally nothing.
Phil Spencer practically confirmed an upgradeable xbox one weeks before sony annouced ps4 with 4k resolution
So next gen console in Q4 2017? That would mean a 4 year cycle, 1 year being almost entirely simultaneous releases for 360/Xbox One ports.
Fuck that. This will alienate all console users.
>>336368842
>5-6 times PS4 Neo
Nope, not possible. Yep another trash rumor.
better not be out for a few more years if true
What's the upgrade deals looking like?
>>336369465
THAT'S RIGHT
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW OP
>>336368842
Yeah the NEXT PIECE OF SHIT
>>336369465
console development takes years
it could be true for the next gen starting around 2020
>>336369327
The current gen was woefully outdated from the get go, they're amending the problem with new iterations of the same consoles
This gen will last like 12 years
>>336368842
>Sonygaf so triggered that Xbox Next is 5-6 times more powerful than PS4Neo that they locked the thread so people don't discuss it there.
>>336368842
Didn't they say they plan to stay on the Xbox One for an estimated 10 years? What happened to that idea?
>>336368842
>5-6 times PS4 Neo
that sounds like a lie
>>336368842
>it will be extremely powerful from the start, i think 5-6 times PS4 Neo
sure
The fucking state of consoles
>>336369654
>What happened to that idea?
The bone flopped.
>>336369160
its only been two years
gen 5- 6 where like 6 years long each
>>336369058
You could try PC if you want to avoid generational transitions.
>thinking processing power = good gameplay
>being tricked by the virtual jew so hard that you think processing power means jack shit when it comes to fun gameplay
so, console gaming is like smartphones? you buy a new one every 2 years?
>>336369465
>PS4 NEO has ~R9 380X
>13310 3DMark Score
>times 5 = 66000
>980 Ti is just under 25000
Yeah, not happening.
>>336369782
Consoles are just budget PCs with "premium" branding now.
>>336369617
>woefully outdated from the get go
That's what happens when you finally wise up that selling consoles at a loss of hundreds of dollars to win a non-existent "battle of the living room" is a losing proposition.
>new iterations of the same consoles. This gen will last like 12 years
If you have to buy new hardware to play the games, the generation is over. The end.
>5-6 times PS4 Neo
dont be silly
Just like PS3 was 20 times more powerfull than 2.
You cucks believe everything you read like retards, 5 or 6 times more powerfull than a PS4 would imply it would be as powerfull as a 1000 dollars PC, that means it would be expensive as fuck, clearly not a very good move in the consoles market.
>>336369865
the xbone is three years old Today
this wont be out for years
>>336368842
Remember, if you are considering killing yourself because of the embarrassing state of the industry right now, all the old classic games haven't gone anywhere and you can still play them, instead of supporting this garbage or even thinking about it.
>>336369617
Jesus, what a sad state of affairs
>H-hey PCfags, it's 2025 and we just managed to squeeze 1080p60 onto our last, multi-billion dollar AAAA game squeezing the hardware to it's unacceptable limit, w-we're truly next gen, right?
>pcfags faces when
>>336369813
wrong. It was released in November 2013.
If the next one come in 2018, that will make it 5 years, the usual generation lifespan.
People tend to forget that this generation started with the Wii U at the end of 2012, too.
>>336369867
>r9 380x
I regret buying a ps4. should have stayed on pc
maybe they won't be fucking retards this time and make it backwards compatible from the start
So Xbone Next, PS4 Neo and NX will be gen 9?
>console owners
>>336370157
Xbox One/PS4 didn't have backwards compatibility because Xbox 360 was PowerPC architecture and PS3 was Cell.
PS4/Xbox One/Xbox Next/PSNeo are X86, if Neo/Next aren't backwards compatible, I'll be bitching alongside you guys.
>>336370129
It's actually better than the 380X by a little. 36 CUs vs the 380X's 32.
>>336370252
Nintendo is already doomed if they were aiming only to parallel the PS4 with the NX and not exceed it.
RIP Nintendo once again
>>336370115
November 2013, so if this thing come out in 2017 it would have only been 3 years
So it if have exclusive games that only play on the new one, its a big slap in the face to all those who bought an xbone
>>336368842
>5 - 6 times ps4 neo
Fuck no what the hell is microsoft doing? Everyone knows normies arent going to buy something so overpowered it might cost and arm and a leg.
This seems like a hot load of horseshit, but I kinda wish it was true because it would make this E3 interesting to say the least
>>336369865
>>336369813
8th gen started in 2012.
>>336370425
That doesn't really answer my question, kiddo.
Console gaming crash imminent
God i regret buying a console this gen so much
>>336368842
Why would they do something so immensely retarded when they just wasted all those resources making the Bone and PC crossplayable
>>336368842
>it will be extremely powerful from the start, i think 5-6 times PS4 Neo
Even as far as new console rumors go, that's a pretty absurd lie
well, hope console users learned their lesson. They got extremely full of themselves last gen when it lasted abnormally long. Now the systems you've just purchased that have only just recently started to begin justifying themselves are almost obsolete.
ALWAYS go PC + Consoles or PC exclusive. NEVER go console exclusive
itt: dumb fags
>i bought my console yesterday and now I'm mad
You bitches don't know you don't have to buy the upgraded consoles. The neo leaks said that the console will not have anything new other than the upscaled resolution. You buy ps4 neo and it will give you the choice of it being 1080p or 4k. You're just gonna download a 4k texture pack when you buy a game. There won't be any exclusive features, it's not a new console
>>336368842
ps4neo is supposed to have a 4,1 tflop gpu
>5 to 6 times as powerfull
24 tflop confirmed
>>336370092
name some classics anon i want to play them
>>336370441
you're forgetting normies also bought a new iPhone every year despite them costing like $600 each. more if you bought them from scalpers.
idiots will buy anything; the secret is simply to market them properly
>Microsoft upgrade to a new console
>Nintendo upgrade to a new console
>Sony half press their way into an upgrade
>>336368842
>it will be extremely powerful from the start, i think 5-6 times PS4 Neo
So it's going to be a $3000+ gaming PC?
This just looks like utter bullshit, sorry
>>336369861
I play on pcit's a oiece of shit but it runs most of the games I wanna playi have an xbone to play with friends and for some other games. I'm saving to move in with my girlfriend soon so I can't spend too much money on vidya. I'd have to wait for Christmas or not get a console/better pc at all. I was really enjoying the xbone too.
Oh well
>>336370641
The Neo was created because the harsh truth is the PS4 is not powerful enough to handle decently VR games. PS4 is literally Sony's way to avoid people being disappointed with Morpheus. And be sure regular PS4 owner will be pissed off when they will have to play VR games at 15 fps.
>>336368842
>it will be extremely powerful from the start, i think 5-6 times PS4 Neo
THAT'S LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE, DELETE THAT FUCKING LIE RIGHT NOW
>>336368842
>A console with anywhere near 10 TFLOPS
>costing less than $1000
>New Nintendo console
>New Microsoft console
>New Sony console
>People will still pretend this isn't a new gen
>>336370493
XBone and PS4 came out 2½ years ago. No one cares about DreamcastU
>>336370641
>game runs like ass on ps4
>"buy a neo if you're such a graphics whore"
its gonna happen
>>336370661
There's no that kind of GPU available
>>336370825
Maybe they shouldn't give a fuck about VR yet since it's shit
>>336369160
Really cause I could have sworn it's only been a couple years since the Xbone and PS4 came out.
>>336370943
Gens include both home console and handheld
3DS also was 2012, gens aren't about technology it's about time.
>>336371006
Agreed. They are going to lose a fuckton of money on this.
>>336370825
ps4 vr games have to run at least at 60 fps anon.
regular ps4 players will play their vr games at 60fps+ and shit resolution.
ps4 neo will play vr games at better fps and better res.
>>336370641
You do not understand what has already been released about these consoles. This image is the reality. Your schlock is the fantasy.
>>336371037
You are retarded.
So can someone spoonfeed me. If I own both Xbone and PS4 how fucked am I by this?
>>336371069
>ps4 vr games should run at least at 60 fps anon
Fixed. You are going to be terribly disappointed.
>>336371098
He is right though.
>>336370705
Streets of Rage 2
Chrono Trigger
Warcraft 2 / SC Brood War
Persona 3
Suikoden 2
Final Fantasy IX
Yoshi's Island SNES
Golden Axe
Super Ghosts n Goblins
Sonic & Knuckles
Gunspike
Jumpin Flash
Half Life 2
Tales of The Abyss / Vesperia
Tatsunoko vs Capcom
Ratchet & Clank 2 HD
any of those are guaranteed to provide more entertainment than a new xbox ever could.
>>336371037
And PS4 and bone have not been out for enough TIME for people to get use out of them
>>336370729
Microshit dumped so much money into marketing both kinect versions and that shit still flopped. So I doubt this would be better.
They created a market that has backfired and they have lost more than they had gained. It isn't the hardware, it is the expense and restrictions that drive consumers away most (the hardware too, but Joe average isn't looking at specs when he's thinking about buying a new consoles).
A ton of expenses and it doesn't even have true HD?
I have to pay for online?
Didn't I play this new game two years ago?
The market flounders. Next generation buyers can expect more of the same.
>>336370986
that's my point.
>>336370705
Half life 1 + 2
Deus Ex
Sonic 2
Megaman 1-3
Megaman X
Silent Hill
Serious Sam
Doom
Hitman blood money
RE 2 + 4
Revenge of Shinobi
Postal 2
Unreal
X-COM
Oddworld: Abes Odyssey
>>336371160
Gen 8 started in 2012
>buy a PC in 2010
>outlasts every console since
>yet I'm the one who has to "continually upgrade"
>>336371109
>If I own both Xbone and PS4
Why would anyone do that? It's like buying the same console twice. If they actually had worthwhile exclusives, you'd have a point. But that's not the case.
>>336370750
>Sony half press their way into an upgrade
So, you're saying that Sony upgraded while they were already pressing the A button.
>>336371109
I would say very. I own a PS4.
So glad I only buy consoles at the end of gen.
>>336371152
>He is right though.
It's not relevant wether he's right or wrong, he's still dumb as shit.
>>336371252
DELETE THIS
>>336371202
PS4bone gen started in late 2013. I'm demanding another 5 years out of these consoles
>>336371202
He said nothing about generations. One and PS4 came out in 2013.
>>336371098
Read a history book, WW2 didn't start when Americans joined in on the fun.
It began with Poland.
>>336368842
>5-6 times stronger than PS4 Neo
So it will be a pre-built PC? How will they make it a better option than an actual PC?
>>336371252
>outlasts every console since
You'll get some meaty (you) with that bait.
>>336371414
why?
he's right
>xbox one, wii u and ps4 come out
>like 5 games each
>nobody cares because not enough choice
>better start a new gen!
I don't need the market to crash to know that video games are dead.
The logistics of the speculated tech included don't make any sense unless Microsoft is planning to sell it at a huge loss.
>>336369454
>This will alienate all console users.
Console users are mouthbreathers anyway, they'll max out their credit cards on whatever they need to play Madden 2017 or FIFA 2017.
>>336371252
>Still gaming on a Core 2 Duo
>Still Gaming on a 4850 HD
>2016
They're making a new console when the current ones literally have no games?
>>336370089
>the xbone is three years old Today
No, it's not.
It didn't release until November 2013.
>>336371414
You think I'm kidding? Consoles still aren't capable of beating a 2007 PC that could run Crysis at 60 FPS. These guys are ten years behind.
All the best looking games this gen have come from ps4
>the order 1886
>driveclub
>uncharted 4
>ratchet and clank
Pcucks will get btfo when they see what sony's studios will be capable of with ps4 neo
>>336371392
And? 7th gen started in 2004 when DS and PSP came out yet 360 was 2005 and then PS3 and Wii were 2006, but 7th gen is counted as being 2004 to 2011
8th gen is 2012 to now, and it most likely finish by 2018 where we will be in 9th gen then
>>336371396
Get real. WW2 didn't matter until we got in. Nobody cares about Europe except how it messes with our economy. Your relevance died centuries ago.
>>336371450
No 2010 GPU can outlast the PS4
>>336371414
console fags in denial as usual
>>336368842
you fucking phil piece of shit. You just fucking said you weren't going to pull the same shitty trick
>>336371170
the kinect was doing sort of okay until MS announced it was a mandatory component of the Xbone. that's what changed it from a "better eyetoy" to "NSA spying device" in people's eyes
at the very least the kinect found modest success in the medical tech scene
>>336371568
Don't half of these run at 30fps or less with weird letterbox resolutions that render less than 720p
>>336371517
As opposed to PC Gamers who will max out their credit cards on whatever they need to play Witcher 3 and need to do it again in 6 months.
Anon this is disastrous for developers, in the past console use just a unique conf for every system, now they're going to make hard work for make it work in every system just like PC.
>Performance loose incoming
at least if this is true #ps4shaming become true again.
>>336369058
I got One at Christmas of last year. If it's going to be upgradeable by switching out parts then I'll gladly trade in or sell my console.
I enjoy my Xbox. I hate my PS4.
>>336371571
Are you retarded? Handhelds never factor into generations outside of their own.
>>336371568
>30 fps
I remain unimpressed.
>>336371571
And? When the generation started has nothing to do with the individual console release dates.
Xbone and PS4 came out less than three years ago.
>>336371607
>he believed what he was told
>>336371568
are you feeling ok?
>>336371152
Am i? you know i already tried the vr and fps was okay.
I didn't expect them to showcase shit though.
> You are going to be terribly disappointed.
90fps is the minimum sony demands for vr anon.
>>336370115
>Wii U
Who fucking cares? This gen started in Nov 2013. And it should last at least up to Nov 2018 with Nov 2019 the best case scenario for early adopters of the PS4/Xbone to buy a brand new PS5/Xbone 2.
But then we have this bullshit of PS4K and Xbone 1.5 that we still don't know how shit will work with tandem for the "old" current gen consoles.
>>336371413
>actually worthwhile exclusives
>>336371607
>Believing corporate PR cucks
>>336371712
Are you? Handhelds 100% factor into generations you fucking faggot.
>>336371720
What does that have to do with anything? 8th gen started in 2012, no one cares that PS4/Bone are 2 years old.
>>336368842
>then something in the order of over 10 FLOPS or so.
sounds about right!
>>336371862
>8th gen started in 2012
What does that have to do with anything?
>>336371862
>no one cares that PS4/Bone are 2 years old.
People who bought them care
>>336371597
Still running strong.
>>336371414
let's see, the latest Jewvidya card in 2010 is the GTX 580
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NNNtgKdhMg
oh, look, it does what the PS4 and Xbone, released years later, couldn't hope to achieve, more than double that (running GTAV on very high at 60, when PS4 and Xbone run it on the lowest settings possible at 30 iirc)
so yes, I think he's right and at best you've got... memes I guess?
>>336368842
This generation was the biggest fucked up. Only wiiu had the most and best exclusive, lol, and you mocked the wiiu.
>>336371862
You're a fucking retard. No one has ever counted handhelds as part of console generations except for you right now.
>>336371198
silent hill 1-3*
>>336368842
What are they gonna release for it? More games I can get on PC?
is 2800 enough for a high-end pc that will last a long time?
>>336368842
>Xbox Next
Why not just call it NeXtbox?
>about the new xbox
good
the xbone or the ps4 hardly have any games and they are releasing new consoles alreadynintendo doesn't count because they already have games and still follow the usual "a console every 5 years" not the shit of every 10 years
>>336369327
tell that to the mobile/tablet market
If developers can't do shit with current tech, why would giving them an upgrade do any good? It's like giving a flamethrower to a baby. Every game releases broken as hell with framerate drops and game breaking bugs just as an example.
>>336371994
FUCKING DELETE THIS
PS4 IS A S U P E R C H A R G E D PC YOU PKEKS FUCK YOU
I'd be interested to know how many retail games PS4 and Xbone currently have out.
>>336371862
>8th gen started in 2012
>tfw 2012 was 8 years ago
>>336371545
ok so 2.5 or some shit
doesnt change my point
>>336372006
Holy fuck you are beyond underage, everyone has always counted handhelds into generations because they have ALWAYS fucking factored in.
Who the fuck is going to buy these when there aren't any games using the tech
Did they not learn from the N3DS?
>>336371994
With Nvidia's Fermi gimping and your shit VRAM, nope you can't beat a PS4.
Not that the PS4 is strong, but the 480 is definitely weaker.
>>336368842
it would be hella funny if both nintendo and xbox release consoles side by side named NEXT or some variant of that
i also like the irony of calling it the "NEXT" like "here's our next attempt at a console"
>>336371997
That card costed two times the price of a ps4 when it launched though.
>>336368842
Just Wii U my lifespan up.
>>336369412
I like the idea of upgrading your console like a PC. I hope they allow steam DESU.
>>336371170
They had good marketing.... Until they started going no-veil money grab and everyone said fuck off. Each user had to buy separate games, no game sharing, no backwards compatibility, no offline gaming, PR director going on camera and saying a long interview of "go fuck yourself".
High xbox fan boy who refuse to buy xbox one and will never buy another.
>>336372242
But not by much, and its a 6 year old video card.
I fucking hate the state of the industry right now, I would have switched to PC long ago if it werent for the damn exclusives
>>336372289
there are more games worth playing on wii u than xbone so i don't get your joke.
wii u was also half the price of an xbone.
is it actually confirmed or is Eurogamer just b8ing?
why the fuck is this gen so short? It's only been 3 fucking years
>>336368842
glad i bought a ps4
that way i wont have to deal with microjew replacing my console every 2 years because they got butthurt
>>336372139
>9th gen comes in 2020
>yfw are just two month to wait
>>336368842
Makes me wonder what the fucking point is anymore
just put everything on pc already
>>336368842
won't killer instinct pro players be concerned this means the game will be abandoned by next spring?
>>336368842
>first gaf comment is butthurt as shit
Man i'm laughing
>>336372375
Because current consoles are using netbook processors and old graphics cards.
>>336371851
>they still run like shit because lolconsoles
>>336372362
name a wii u game you enjoy, I won't judge
>>336372275
who said anything about it being cheap?
and if you want to compare prices, compare a card that was released close to the PS4 and performs somewhat better (like the GTX 750ti), you can build a budget PC that'll outlast the PS4 and runs games way way better than it (and by proxy, the Xbone too since it's weaker than the PS4)
>Xbox Next
>not calling it NextBox
Are you even trying Microsoft?
>>336372210
Only an underage faggot would believe they factor in. None of the companies that even made the damn things called them part of the console generations.
They've literally never factored in.
Nintendo has never stood up there and gone, "well the DS is our 7th Generation hardware."
>>336372362
You're right. That was an unfair comparison.
The Xbone didn't sell THAT bad.
>>336372427
Not if it has BC. Reminder that 360 Bc on bone lets you play with 360 users.
>>336369654
The guy who launched it fucked shit up.
>PS4K
>Xbonext
>NX
so, 9th gen is here already?
>>336372358
>I would have switched to PC
How is PC any better? PC games are a race to shove the most technically intensive game on the market, and if you want to keep up then you're forced to make upgrade after upgrade, it ends up costing more for what? Holy shit, this fucking grass and those leaves ooh la la. I can run Witch of Duty 7 on Ultra settings and you can see people fart from across the map at 100 fps.
>>336371778
Why lie on the internet? The game is worth like 5$ brand new and 1$ used and it is on sale on PSN for 10$ or less quite often. Everyone already knows that the game actually looks quite well and not the bullshit you are posting, though the problems of the games come from everywhere else but their graphics.
>>336372493
MK8, Smash4, Pikmin 3, Tropical Freeze, Bayonetta 2, I can go on if you like.
>>336372509
Yes they do, good job just proving you are underage.
>>336372587
Pretty much. Companies will call it Gen 8.5, so they won't piss off those who bought a 6th gen console too late.
>>336368842
Sounds more expensive than xbone kinect.
>>336372467
so? I don't want to buy a console once every 3 fucking years, this is getting ridiculous.
>>336372595
>and if you want to keep up then you're forced to make upgrade after upgrade
You aren't forced to do anything. Graphics API's haven't changed since windows 7 released. My cards from 2013 still work just fine on new games.
even if this is true? so what
its not like microsoft 1st party has any worthwhile 90+ metacritic games
i was done with halo, forza and gears 5 years ago.
>>336372595
I have not upgraded in 5 years on an $1000 pc and run everything on ultra settings. Attila was only game that gave me any trouble so far. Try again.
>>336372528
nintendo also didn't spend billions on brainwashing people through targeted marketing, which MS absolutely did (and continues to do)
>>336368842
>5-6 times
Yeah right.
>>336372595
no no im not one of THAT fags, I would be happy to run things at medium-high setting with stable 30fps
>>336368842
>i think 5-6 times PS4 Neo, then something in the order of over 10 TFLOPS or so. "
Why do these rumors never consider the price of the console? A machine like this would cost at leat 600€ but actually probably more.
>>336370368
According to Phil the Xbox will be forwards and backwards compatible. Sony wants you to buy there old games.
>A new console already
This is getting stupid.
>>336372552
They did so badly with BC on Xbone there's no way it will somehow be more functional on a completely new machine.
>>336371568
I own a PS4 I I know that's one of the most retarded points ever. WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT GRAPHICS ITS LITERALLY THE LEAST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT A GAME. PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE REASON VIDEOGAMES ARE SUCH SHIT RIGHT NOW. CARING ABOUT THE MOST TRITE BULLSHIT. KILL YOUR SEEEEEELLLLLFFFFF.
>>336372769
>I have not upgraded in 5 years on an $1000 pc
Wow, 5 whole years? For $1k? Xbox 360 was alive for about 8 years wasn't it? And sold for less than half of that?
>>336368842
>10TF
>Loss leader
>Reads like fanfic
>Source is some dago Xbox fanboy
Yeah, I heard Silent Hills is going to be a launch title as well.
You fuckboys are desperate for anything.
>>336372828
The GPU alone would cost that much.
>>336372615
Nice, I was just curious
>>336372838
Well at least you won't have to buy currentgen.
>>336372595
Nobody is forcing you to be on the cutting edge and buy the highest-end stuff with each release. Older graphics cards still run fine and can run new games on high graphics.
>>336372587
at least the fucking NX makes sense
by the time it comes out it will have been 5 years, which is normal
but the PS4 and Xbox one are not even 3 years old yet
this is beyond terrible
>>336372615
And how are those different from Quantum Break, or Halo, or Sunset Overdrive?
>b-but they're good
That's an opinion. Nothing more.
>>336368842
>something on the order of 10 TFLOPS
>10 TFLOPS
>>336368842
>10tflops
nah
>starting price only 700 dollarydingos
>MS and Nintendo flop so hard they decide to kill their consoles and make new ones
>sony being the only successful one has no choice but to do a kind of upgrade due to their bullshit
I hope MS and nitendo goes bankrupt, sony are the only heroes left.
>>336372881
>They did so badly with BC on Xbone
They didn't. People love it and some went so far to question Sony why they didn't the same. People on bone still gladly play 360 games, especially the free ones coming with Gold.
>>336372956
>Quantum Break
It's exactly like Uncharted don't fucking deny it. The time shit doesn't even add to the gameplay. You still spend most of your time firing out of cover or sucking your thumb waiting for regen health.
>>336372992
More like 1000.
For reference, the new Nvidia Pascal Titan is 12tflops.
>>336372414
I'm predicting Sony/MS start only producing reference specifications for "consoles" that other manufacturers implement and pre-install with Playstation OS/Xbox OS within the next decade.
I heard it was actually 75 times PS4 Neo and would be cheaper than a Wii mini but not selling at a loss.
>>336372828
What if micros9ft want to be vr proof?If the rift and the like makes success this might turn the tides.
>buy a Bonext on lauch week, get a free rift!
>>336372950
No, it didn't make sense. We should be advancing in technology and common sense. That means we should be making consoles that last longer, not ones that'll just be replaced the next day.
>>336372891
>WOW PS4 SO POWERFUL LOOK AT THIS BULLSHOT OF UNCHARTED
>SEE HOW GREAT THAT IS? AMAZING GRAPHICS?
>check out this PC game, graphics amazing right?
>I NEVER GAVE A FUCK ABOUT GRAPHICS ITS ALL ABOUT THE GAMEPLAY ONLY FOOLS TALK ABOUT GRAPHICS THEY MEAN NOTHING
>>336372607
sorry i just dont think this looks impressive
>>336372972
> 8GB of GDDR5 RAM of which only 5.5GB are actually available for the game
> and it's shared
>>336371562
>>336371601
>>336371997
Why is it so important to you guys to lie? The PS4 is weak, we know that. But it's not anywhere near as weak as you're pretending.
The PS4 effectively has a 7850, with a 3DMark score of 6800.
The GTX 580 has a 3DMark score of 6590. It also only has 1.5GB of VRAM and Nvidia gimps it with drivers.
Stop being retarded "peesee master race XD!" idiots.
>>336373037
Sony is doing the same fucking thing you mongoloid
they're all doing it
only Nintendo at least waited the 5 fucking years before replacement
this is a goddamn shitshow
so it's going to be a gimped pc for the same price as one, with none of the features of pc?
why doesn't microsoft just stick with their windows 10 platform at this point?
oh, because steam is a better service.
ms really is just an overpriced gimped product no matter what they do. interesting.
>>336369883
Underrated post
>Nintendo passed up on announcing their product at E3
>Everyone else beating them to the punch
>>336368842
10 teraflops?
fuck me, thats 3x my pc, and like 5x your average pc users gpu
if its true this console will be a fucking beast
but i doubt it, no gpu card on the market is even clsoe to this fast. so its a lie obviously
>>336373137
>they gimp it with new drivers
so then install old drivers then you can still get 306.42
>>336373137
>it's not as weak
Then why can't it even run indie games at 60 FPS?
>>336373041
Uh, yes they did.
>People on bone still gladly play 360 games, especially the free ones coming with Gold.
then why was every /v/ thread regarding ""free"" Gold games (still gotta pay for gold so it's not not free at all) complaining that the free games were all shit that people didn't?
>>336372912
Well if you bought an 360 on release for $400 you would most likely replace it for a new one after your first RROD anyway.
>>336373102
Imagine being so butthurt at Microsoft surpassing Sony you have to pretend to be retarded and say something very silly .
>>336372912
And yet games will continue to be released on PC with no end in sight, making that 1000 dollars last even longer.
>>336373137
>The PS4 effectively has a 7850, with a 3DMark score of 6800.
a real 7850 out performs the shit the PS4 puts out, PS4 has nothing special about it and a majority of its games look and run worse than what a real 7850 can put out
Why, Phil?
Why did you betray us?
You were supposed to bring balance to the console wars.
>people here actually think it would be out within 5 years
fucking summertards i swear to kane
>>336373236
>then why was every /v/ thread regarding
So you use /v/ as a meter of judgement? Oh boy. Now I see where you got your distorted point of view.
>>336371657
Doesn't even make sense m8
Not including the paid online as well
>>336373126
Again you aren't using actual footage or pics from the game. You are trolling no one since the game is so garbage a lot of people bought it for small change and checked it already.
I bought it brand new for 5$ some weeks ago, it looks great but it suffers from gameplay isssues all over the place, no wonder the game has flopped so badly.
>>336372956
you can't seriously be comparing those with Bayo2 or MK8. you are leaving the realm of opinion and entering the realm of complete delusion.
Halo 5, QB and SO are thoroughly mediocre.
>>336373114
5 years is the standard
but I agree, this is beyond fucking stupid, I got an xbox last year and was planning on getting a PS4 soon, now I see no point as both are just going to be replaced.
>>336373316
How come nobody on Neogaf makes the same question to Kaz?
>>336371657
my video card that I got a few years ago for 200 dollars runs witcher 3 fine.
>there are literally people who would buy an xbox on /v/ RIGHT NOW
at least most of them only come out of the woodwork when false promises of exclusives or hardware come out
>>336369160
Most generations lasted 6 to 8 years. 7th gen was just longer.
2-4 years however is abnormally short.
>>336373330
That is where we are. Maybe you mistakenly posted here instead of NeoGAF or Reddit?
>>336372780
at 10 teraflop is 6x ps4 and 8x xbox one
>>336373141
>sony being the only successful one has no choice but to do a kind of upgrade due to their bullshit
>>336373429
daily reminder a 750ti plays witcher 3 better than a PS4
>>336370432
>November 2013, so if this thing come out in 2017 it would have only been 3 years
How bad at math are you. that will make it 4 years. And certainly not 2 years like stated there >>336369813
>>336371821
>This gen started in Nov 2013
Wrong 2012, like it or not.
>And it should last at least up to Nov 2018
in all likelyty, the NX will be delayed again, like the N64 was and will be released in the 3rd quarter of 2017.
The Next Xbox and the PS neo will come out in 2018.
>>336368842
So they're all being retarded because Nintendo threatened Sony with the NX and Sony threatened Microsoft with the Neo. What the fuck happened to this generation lasting 10 years? It's not even been 5.
>>336373126
>>336371778
Nice try.
Why don't you try posting the ones with lighting and shading?
http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/21/the-order-1886-fantastic-screenshots-and-renders-and-new-details-on-the-engine-emerge-from-gdc/
jesus christ man can consoles fall any fucking lower
>>336373141
We haven't reached the 4 years mark since the release of the Wii U. The NX is going to be released less than 9 months before the 5 year mark of the Wii U.
>>336373117
HE IS NOT THE SAME PERSON WHO SAID THAT HAHA EAT THE BRAIN
>>336368842
>stealing nintendo's name thunder this hard
>first ps4k, now this
You have to be retarded to be an early adopter for consoles nowadays.
>>336373520
>Nintendo threatened Sony with the NX and Sony threatened Microsoft with the Neo
You console warriors are so stupid. At least you give me a good giggle.
That's not how companies work.
>>336373545
>consoles announce they no longer use your internet and require a wireless contract now
>2-year upgrade cycle begins
That worse?
>>336373307
Nope. Match the settings and cap it at 30fps and performance will be the same, with the same fps drops.
>>336372950
I agree, this is normal Nintendo cycle
>WiiU is released in the normal cycle
>it gets plenty of Nintendo exclusives
>90% of the internet shits on it
>every Nintendo fan enjoying all those exclusives
>cycle goes on, it's time for the next Ninty console
>WOOOOOOOW ALREADY REALLY WOOOOOW NOGAMES
>Ninty fans with a new console and new exclusives
>people will shit on it again
>Pony and M$ shitting a new console after not even 3 years
this is hilarious
>>336373137
>the PS4 is not that weak
>muh 3DMark score
link us some benchmarks of VIDEOGAMES that are also on PS4, some games that run just as well on simmilar priced hardware of today's standards
we can pretend the PS4 is decent hardware, but not only is it a lie, but it benefits nobody (except for sonyfags with buyer's remorse)
bring some fucking proof, just google it, find any game that runs as well or better on the PS4, this thread will still be here and it doesn't take long to google (then agani, you'll never find a game performing that well on a PS4 as well as running poorly on a, say, 750ti, since this scenario doesn't exist)
>>336373117
WHAT IS THIS REPLY EVEN SUPPOSED TO PROVE YOU MONGOLOID???? PS4 OWNERS ARENT JUST ONE HIVEMIND YOU GIGANTIC FAGGOT. I TRULY DO NOT CARE ABOUT GRAPHICS, PC OR OTHERWISE.
>>336373384
Then what do you base this on? Popular opinion? Does that say that Bayo and MK8 are better than Halo?
Because the Ps4s current sales should tell you how worthless "popular opinion" is.
>>336373614
>companies don't pressure each other with PR and dick measuring contests to race in preceived "tech advances"
this is the dumbest post on this entire website right now.
>>336373614
Do you honestly think they did this without any outside influence whatsoever? Do you think they would have made this had Nintendo not announced the NX and Sony the Neo? Fuck off, retard.
>>336373691
>PS4 OWNERS ARENT JUST ONE HIVEMIND YOU GIGANTIC FAGGOT
dont lie
