JUST UNDER AN HOUR TO GO BEFORE UNTIL BASEBUILDING SHITTERS ARE COMPLETELY BLOWN OUT AND DAWN OF WAR II GETS THE SEQUEL IT DESERVES
>>336348213
Make Orkmerica Great Again
>>336348213
>BASEBUILDING SHITTERS ARE COMPLETELY BLOWN OUT
ORKZ areshit
>>336348228
>>336348228
>>336348228
>>336348228
ANSWER REEEEEEEE
Friendly reminder taufags are the worst.
>>336348213
>basebuilding autism
Tell me again, what exactly did it add to the game?
>BASEBUILDING SHITTERS ARE COMPLETELY BLOWN OUT
Why do people hate basebuilding so much now? I like it. I don't know why but those games are always more fun, DoW2 I can't remember enjoying at all.
>>336348348
why
nid masterrace reporting
Why isn't there a 40k version of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCbGrGvJhJY
>>336348390
I think it's more that 40k doesn't have base building than anyone not liking it in regular RTS games.
>dawn of war 2
>people think its DoW3
>people will moan no matter what the game involves
>people will claim they're ''''''''''''fans''''''''''''''' of 40k yet don't own books, novels or any modelling equipment, let alone the models themselves
>these people will then refuse to buy the game if it isn't perfect despite claiming to be 40k fans
This is going to fucking suck.
>>336348213
>Implying we'll get another pseudo-MOBA bullshit game in the series
>>336348518
FUCK OFF GEE DUBYA
>>336348390
basebuilding is just unnecessary clicking for the first 10 minutes till you get some action.
I never played Dawn of War 2, did it have proper research trees and different way to unlock and get troops and vehicles, or was it just "everything spawns at command point A whenever the fuck"
>>336348390
It pretty much never served a purpose in RTS games, for the most part. The only real exception is Supreme Commander.
Field improvements(Mines/sandbags/bunkers/tank traps/etc.) are the only construction that actually matters to gameplay.
It's not like the two seconds you spend telling a worker to plop down the same order of tech buildings every match actually meant anything.
>yfw it's just another DoW2 DLC
Okay, let's be real here for a moment.
1) DoW sold a lot better that DoW2.
2) The market is fully saturated with MOBAs and MOBA likes.
3) Despite "ded gaem" the latest Starcraft 2 expansion solid over 1 million copies in 24 hours.
4) The source material is much more fitting for LARGE battles than little squad based skirmishes.
In conclusion, they'd have to be retarded to not have basebuilding. Problem is that they very well might be retarded.
>>336348560
>if a strategy game doesn't have basebuilding then it's a MOBA
Kill yourself, my famalam
>>336348518
>have to import if I want models
>no one to play with anyway
pshhhh, if they don't add tau, sorry mate, no reason to buy it
hell, if they add tau but still have the same battlesuits from dow1, I still probably wont
>>336348515
>>336348390
Remember that time in the fluff that the Ultramarines landed on a planet and built factories, generators, barracks and other things before going off to destroy the enemies stuff?
Oh. Right. Yeah. Never happened. Space Marines are strike force dependent, they don't build bases. At best they build defences and that's only for autistic forces like IF.
>>336348518
>Shills already readying damage control and it's not even announced yet.
>>336348518
But anyone claiming they're a """""""fan""""""" of anything is always a bottom of the barrel tier annoying autist.
>>336348647
>DoW sold a lot better that DoW2.
source?
>>336348593
The later
>>336348662
>>336348662
>Ultra marines don't have support factories,barracks,etc.
>>336348568
>claim to be WHFB fans
>don't buy anything, even from 3rd party re-sellers which sell for up to 30% off
>be surprised when WHFB dies
>OMG WHY DID EVIL GEE DUBBYA TAKE AWAY BASED GAME :((( I MEAN I NEVER SUPPORTED IT I JUST READ 1D4CHAN AND LEXICANICUM AND WHFB WIKI :(( THAT MEANS I SUPPORTED IT :(((
eeeeend sccceeene.
>want to play battlefleet
>game has crashing issue in middle of mission
now i understand why its 75% score
>>336348647
I hope the DoWII expansion sales where enough to convince them that people don't want more DoWII.
>>336348647
Basebuilding would not change shit, it can still be skirmish tier battles even with buildings. Fucking retard
>>336348775
FUCK OFF GEE DUBYA
>>336348697
That include expansions or just base games?
>>336348518
>Abloobloobloo
Go be fat somewhere else.
>>336348647
>Muh arbitrary time-wasting gimmick of plopping down production structures at the start of the match
There's literally no reason for base building to exist other than the autism of repetition on meaningless tasks.
>>336348816
just give me a source for your statement.
>>336348662
Are you stupid? You just confirmed yourself for not knowing anything about the fluff at all.
WH40K: FORGED ALLIANCE WHEN?
IT'S FUCKING PERFECT.
![[removing intensifies].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bWdHKZY.jpg "[removing intensifies].jpg")
>>336348648
DoW II gameplay was still eerily similar to how typical MOBA gameplay is.
>>336348843
What aboutSTRATEGIC DEPTH, you mongoloid?
>>336348518
I mean besides DoW1 the 40k franchise has a pretty shitty track record in video games
>>336348745
They don't land on a enemy controlled planet and build fucking bases before going off to destroy something. They drop down and destroy the thing then fucking get out of there.
I'm sure the Blood Angels would have had all the time in the world to build bases, factories and barracks in the Cryptus system which had the largest tendril of Hive Fleet Leviathan in it. I'm sure they had time to build things.
Also, remember that time that the Raven Guard landed on a planet and recruited people then and there to join then? Yeah, it's not like that's not how Space Marines work :^)
>>336348662
>Every assault the SM launches is a quick fight
Some fights can last a fucking long time and there are always complications which mean you can't just shit drop pods full of supplies onto a planet.
WHEN THE FUCK IS SPACE HULK DEATHWING COMING
>>336348837
>Abloobloobloo
Go back to tumblr
>>336348648
Maybe if it wasn't just the base building, but you're controlling a bunch of small squad of dumbed down moba characters in a moba-like gameplay.
But it's cool, cover your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears so you don't have to think.
>>336348906
>Strategic depth
>Build a barracks
>Build a tech building after that
>Unlock and build the super-duper barracks that shits out vehicles.
Wew.
>>336348843
>strategic placement of buildings across the map for either, reinforcments or for blocking the enemy
>arbitrary time-wasting gimmick
I wish the scrubs that no nothing about rts would leave already...
>>336348518
>>>people will claim they're ''''''''''''fans''''''''''''''' of 40k yet don't own books, novels or any modelling equipment, let alone the models themselves
>not pirating the good (ie Dan Abnett's) books and reading them on your e-reader
>>336348918
what are Imperial Fists.
>>336348860
>DoW:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000:_Dawn_of_War
7+ million as of 2013
>DoWII:
http://steamspy.com/app/56400
1.5 million as of 2015
>>336348978
Cry more bitchnigga.
>>336348967
I hope they take their time to deliver a good game
>People actually WANT the game to be casualized because they are unable or unwilling to git gud.
>thinking that gamesworkshop franchises can have video games that aren't shit.
don't be delusional whatever this is it will suck dick and everyone will be disappointed.
>yfw the factions areThe Kroot, Malal, Techno Monkeys, Enslavers, and Squats
>>336348663
Not damage controlling anything.
>shills
Oh you're one of those. Forgot that's one of my list of 'immediately ignore this post' thing.
>>336348685
That's partly my point. I suspect the vast majority of people in here don't even touch the tabletop and then get mad when things don't go there way in vidya. Then they come slapping their 1d4chan gathered ''''lore'''' around like they know shit and get mad when you explain shit like base building in 40k is limited to certain 'races' and making a game around say, IG and Orks building bases and the others not is fucking stupid.
>>336348901
>>336349025
Yeah guys, you clearly know your shit
>Multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA), also known as action real-time strategy (ARTS), originated as a subgenre of the real-time strategy (RTS) genre of video games, in which a player controls a single character in one of two teams.
>The objective is to destroy the opposing team's main structure with the assistance of periodically spawned computer-controlled units that march forward along set paths.
Dawn of War II looked exactly like this!
>yfw its just another Spess Marine vs Tyranid/Ork/Insert Horde Faction meme game again
>>336348649
>boohoo muh favrits
DOW1 was GOAT and it only had 4 races.
>>336348518
You can be interested in 40K without getting involved in the tabletop.
>>336348647
>The source material is much more fitting for LARGE battles than little squad based skirmishes.
The scale of 40k "large" battles would have infantry in single pixels. Its far more interesting to have a squad-based game because you can focus on the characters that the narrative actually focuses on. The huge war is just a backdrop which nobody really wins.
>>336349074
Why would they announce it like 5 years before releasing it though? Anyway, it's Streum On and Cyanide, I don't expect a rushed game
>>336348901
I don't get this. The gameplay between 1 and 2 really isn't different at all. 2 just doesn't have pointless base building shit, and no relic capture points.
Both play almost identically, with the only major difference in combat being the retreat mechanic, and 1 let you reinforce in the field while 2 required you to retreat or have a halftrack nearby.
>>336348697
He doesn't have a source he'll never have a source. People claiming dow2 was bad are literal memers who want to bandwagon and use 'muh base building' as a catch all excuse about why dow2 was bad because they never actually played the game.
>>336348390
See above, ontop of that fact 40k has never had base building so people claiming to want it are just secondary fans who played a pirated DC with their buddies on lan and want their nostalgia.
>>336349129
Nobody said DoW2 was a MOBA or exactly like one.
>>336348390
I don't like how slowly the games start.
I wish you would start with your main building, barracks and two workers instead of just starting with literally one worker
>>336348867
Go on then, show me in the fluff that the Ultramarines, outside of Maccrage, building factories, barracks and generators and shit BEFORE striking an enemy force.
Because you building shit on your home world/system =! doing it when you go attack shit.
Fuck sake.
>Le gameplay has to be 100% accurate to the fluff
So that means the Spacemarine player only controls a space marine right? According to fluff they can kill a whole planet by taking a shit after all.
<spoiler> genestealer cults and hrud
>>336349037
You have no idea about RTS games, do you?
>>336349237
What? Who are you talking to?
>>336349263
Ctrl+S faget
The way I'd balance base building and lore accuracy is to let you pick out a full army before the match, but you only start with a few squads from that army. You can then spawn in the higher ranking units and more of the weaker ones by capturing and holding points or fulfilling other requisitions, like holding 3 or more points for 3 minutes or some inane shit like that. So you don't use resources you need to actually engage in combat to get access to better shit. You could have some light base building to support more than your spawning number of vehicles etc.
>>336349237
You don't know shit about the fluff.
>>336348949
They do, but nobody sticks around to build bases any more complex than defensive fortifications at key points. IG? Sure. Orks? Sure. Hell even Nids build 'home bases'. I suppose even Eldar could count. But Space Marines come in via Thunderhawk/Stormraven/DropPod. Do the job, then get out again to do it elsewhere.
Remember that time the White Scars built bases on Prefectia which was under Tau control? Me neither.
>>336349129
>Says it is similar to a MOBA
>Assume he means it's EXACTLY like a MOBA
Nice strawman famalam
>>336349042
>Across the map
>Base building
>I wish the scrubs that no nothing
>no nothing
>Retard doesn't know the difference between a base a field improvement.
>Retard doesn't know that 2 has field improvements anyway.
>>336348390
I'm an idiot who only plays the campaign, and basebuilding just means you turtle against the AI for 20 minutes until you have all your units built and upgraded
>>336348518
I figured a lot of these guys were from /tg/, but I guess not.
>>336349151
you wot, m8?
https://www.gog.com/game/final_liberation_warhammer_epic_40000
>>336349327
no, fuck your shitty cap points, fuck your buildings, your resources, fuck all of it!
I just want to start with an army of my choice, and battle some nigger with complex gameplay and terrain that isn't simplified to shit
2 MINUTES
where is the countdown timer?
Base building may be unnecessary, but we won't get tons of tanks, aircrafts and artillery without that. Another ten-soldiers-shooting-each-other game will be extremely lame.
>>336349431
>Large scale
>Same amount of units, even less than DoW
cool
>>336349431
Is this XCOM? Does it have overwatch spam likeSpace Hulk Ascension?
>>336349327
Or i could play a turn base game that fits the tabletop better instead of a RTS trying to imitate it.
>>336348390
I don't like base building because it turns the game into something economy-driven where you win/lose based on resource consumption strategies rather than unit tactics.
40k tabletop isn't about base building, it's about unit tactics.
DoW 2 had it the right way, they just fucked up a lot of other stuff, like balance.
>>336349063
And autistic force which builds defensive fortifications. If the Space Marines we play are IF, then I'm good with bases. But Space Marines don't build BASES TO TRAIN THEIR FORCES IN.
>>336349141
You can, but don't be surprised when shit changes on the tabletop because not enough shekels were going to GW.
>>336349237
Some bumfuck barbarism planet, sure. But this is suppose to be versus the actual enemies of 40k. So a big army is what people want to see. A single Space Marine could turn a fire-fight , a whole squad could turn a battle and an entire chapter a war.
WE SOAR ON WINGS OF FIRE
>>336349457
>3PM British Standard Time
>Time is 2 PM GMT
>>336349225
>>336349360
Bringing up MOBAs in a discussion about Dawn of War II at all is completely and utterly retarded because they're nothing alike. Using this fucking stupid logic, DoW1 is 'eerily similar' to a MOBA too because you could build and control hero characters
>>336349530
>40k tabletop isn't about base building, it's about unit tactics.
Depends if you mean modern tabletop or not.
The current meta actually includes buildings.
ZOG ME 1 HOUR
>>336349094
only imperium is wolfen
>>336349151
Warhammer 40k: Armageddon then.
>>336348518
As someone who has played 40k since 4th edition, has more than 10000 point of space marines not counting any upgrads, and the same for necrons, aproximatly 5000 points of Tzeentch daemons and tzeentch CSM, 8000 points of lizardmenRIP WHFB ;_;7AND 3000 points of 30k ultramarines, I'm proud to tell you this:
Yeah, nah, fuck off m8, you're a cunt.
>>336348893
Wargame: 40k when?
>ITT, starcraft babies falseflagging as 40k aficionados
Return to your dead game pls
>>336349067
DoW 2 was a GFWL game, it came later to Steamworks
PRAISE THE EMPEROR
>>336349564
You really have not played Dow1 did you?
In DoW1 they recall troops from orbit at the barracks, they don;t train them.
>>336349427
You're likely right in the sense we have shit loads of crossboarders at /tg/ and that's largely due to the whole goobergate thing pushing people out of /v/. So we got the backwash shit tier people who come in and fuck it up. Then we have reddit raiders, SA raiders, CWC raiders and a few other websites I forgot the name of raiders who force things off /tg/. Like /wst/ got pushed off and mods were too lazy to do anything.
>>336349623
>The current meta actually includes buildings
These are bunkers and walls, not unit factories.
>>336348893Never.Never ever.Never ever for-fucking-ever.
The world will never be ready for it.
>>336349671
I'm glad WHFB got removed, Age Of Sigmar is far superior, it's too bad nostalgic fantasy autists still clinge to their shitty game
>>336348518
>waaah I play with literal dolls and my doll stories are very important to the video games
Ahahaha, fuck off little baby. Go play with your toy soldiers like a five year old.
>>336348213
> Playing RTS
> 2016
kek
>yfw /v/ claims to have superior taste to "normies" but likes awful shit like this
laughable
>>336348213
>no basebuilding, no buy
Basebuilding is what made Down of War fun for a long time in every game mode. DoW 2 was freaking empty after 2 month, except for some hardcore fans.
>>336349678
Who are you quoting?
>>336349678
this famis go play Overshit.
>>336349671
>tfw only 2kdark angels
Ezekiel is my nigga, though.
>>336349690
>mycetic spores
>falling perfectly vertical
>into a massive pile
>those trillions of organisms getting crushed to death
its the throne of skulls with a purple filter to ruse us mark my words.
>>336349819
it was empty because GFWL
Spess Mehrine II and III when?
>>336349771
Didn't say they were, but you said base building.
Legitimate strategy for tabletop right now is to bring along a death fortress and build it at the beginning of the game.
>>336349754
Correct, the "bases" are glorified landing platforms and research buildings.
>>336349809
Company of Heroes 2 was nice but it feels dead.
>>336349815
>>336349819
yo what the fuck nic cage
>>336349819
>Basebuilding is what made Down of War fun for a long time in every game mode.
Compstomping high res turtling faggot detected.
>>336348213
You it's funny how DoW2 shitters try to defend their horrible game when the only alive community is the shitty last stand game, how "great" was the normal game, right?
And at the same time we have usually some DoW 1 thread.
Don't lie to yourself, DoW2 was shit.
>>336349802
Either Carnac or another GW shill.
Fuck off back to AoS general, battle at calth sold more than that shit sytem.
>>336349863
If they'd be as fucking terrible as the first game, hopefully never.
>>336349863
I thought that shitty MMO was Space Marine 2
>>336349608
Except you built bases in DoW1. By that logic literally every RTS with hero units is a fucking MOBA. That's not even what we fucking implied, you reading comprehension impaired fuckfart.
>>336349873
at least the balance is now better
>>336349841
>Nids
>Giving a single shit about being crushed to death
They're biomass, nigger.
>people suddenly don't like base building
did you shitters never play the GOAT RTS? Empires Dawn of the modern world?
>>336349759
At least /qst/ was an improvement. Jesus quest threads got so bad when you considered how many generals there were along side them, the first two pages would be nothing but anime shota quest #105 and Pathfinder general #3056
>>336349564
>But Space Marines don't build BASES TO TRAIN THEIR FORCES IN
That's not how it works in the games, either. They're basically homing beacons/landing pads made to direct the troops making landfall in the right place.
>>336349815
Pleb spotted, dawn of war is one of the greatest games ever made, if you disagree I'm genuinely sorry to inform you that you have an underdeveloped brain.
>>336349819
>the two seconds to plop down a barracks at the start of a match, followed by the tedium of repetitive build orders of the following structures.
>Fun
>>336349623
Re-read what I posted
Buildings in 40k tabletop don't produce units. They don't mine resources. They don't generate tech upgrades.
They are terrain pieces that are useful for enacting certain strategies/tactics, but you are still constrained to a certain size army with a certain number of points.
Base building doesn't belong in any 40k RTS. If you want that sort of thing, do it in a strategy layer like the total war games do. Tactics should focus on units and TACTICS, not fucking build orders and resource economy.
>>336349671
That's only what you have? Rofl. I have 15k of Lizardmen. 5k of DE. 5k of Empire and 5k of Dorfs. "RIP WHFB". Yeah.. If only they had just their names changed. Oh look, everybody has rules and fluff just like they did in WHFB.... Empire, the completely unprotectable name is renamed "Free People of Azyrheim". Huh. Look at that.
I have only 10k of Chaos (somewhere from 2nd edition, lost that shit when I moved I think) and bout 4k of AdMech.
And how am I a cunt for telling you that's how it is? You're an anomaly even in the TTG. So you being proud of that shit is irrelevant to the discussion. Unless, of course, you're telling me the 49 or more people in this thread have the same amount as you do, or I do?
Reinstalling DoW2. Don't think I have any DLC.
Is it still alive? What expansions are essential?
>>336349918
>If they'd be as fucking terrible as the first game, hopefully never.
KYS
>"Hey guys, let's make another DoW game!"
>"Yeah, cool. Should we make it like the one that sold millions and is still beloved to this day, or should we make it like the one that nobody gave a fuck about?"
...
>>336349937
they have enough smarts to coat a planet in gribblies not pile them into a single 1km square until they reach the stratosphere.
What does 'kys' even mean?
Let's spice up this thread with some fun grimdark.
>tfw you turn everyone on the planet into samefags
I just hope I can BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, regardless of what's announced.
>>336349819
DoW 2 community is still alive and well, what the fuck are you talking about ?
>>336350048
kiss your self
>>336350048
>kill yourself
>>336349979
The chaos one if you want to play more story campaign stuff.
>>336350048
>>336350048
it means Kiss Your Son
>>336349675
YES, by the Emperor yes
When will Focus and Eugen stop being fuck tards?
>>336349819
Dawn of War II died fast because you were forced to use games for windows live and the game's balance was fucking AWFUL.
And the balance problems never improved. Relic just went 'fuck it' and left it to modders to fix. The bad patch support, the absolutely shitty balancing; those were what killed Dawn of War 2.
>>336349995
2 has more people playing it than 1 right fucking now, though.
>>336349939
I did those are good base building games Relic is incapable of doing this.
>>336350048
KHORNE IS SAVAGE
>>336350112
lewd
No Orks, Crons, Chaos, Eldar, or IG, no buy.
>>336349836
Hey, we all got to start somewhere.
I remember when my blood ravens was only about 1000 points, though to be fair that was still a rather large amount during those earlier edtions.
Alot of that stuff wasn't bought until after I finished my masters and actually got a real job that pays really well, during college I only had about aproximatly 3000 points of space marines and necrons. Good times, good times.
So is there supposed to be a stream or some shit? It's supposedly time but there's nothing on their channel.
>Every computer game should be 1:1 as tabletop game.
Tell me retards, then why not go play the tabletop game?
>A videogame based on a movie should be the movie but with cg and zero gameplay.
That's what you guys sound.
DOW3 will have:
Space Marines
Eldar
Tyranids
Necrons
Mark my words.
WHAT'S IN THE BOOOOOX
>>336350061
Post more.
You can now COMPLETELY ERASE one major faction from existence (except the Inquisition) to bring back another faction to its FORMER GLORY
Well? What is it?
>>336349969
>>336349671
What the fuck are points, something to do with the tabletop game?
I just bouhgt my first set and some paints, but I'll never end up playing. Just painting. I really like some of the odd bits of lore I've seen though.
Quick Q: I'm pretty poor. Do the paints mix well or do I have to invest in a lighter colour? I was going to use White Scar to lighten a small amount of Pink Horror for highlighting when my paints arrive.
>>336350048
Kill yourself. It's a surefire way to tell someone is underage.
>>336350127
Focus has been pree based senpai, they have been publishing fucking any old 40k game, so there is an ever so slight chance a Wargame: 40k could happen.
>>336350134
Absolutely this the game never had a chance a good 30% of people couldn't even play online because GFWL fucked them, I couldn't play for a whole patch because of GFWL fucking THQ ruined the game before it was even released.
>>336350213
I would do nothing.
Everything fits and works of each other
>>336349979
>Is it still alive ?
Yes
>What expansions are essential
Both. Some would say that you can skip on Chaos Rising but it would be missing out imo.
>>336350213
Erase newcrons, get oldcrons
>>336349754
That's, again, not my point. Yes they land via the landers, but it's still not how it's done. Space Marines, if they needed reinforcements in a battle, would get them smack bang on their position via Drop Pods, or the flyby of Assault Squads dropping out of a Thunderhawk, or squads rappelling from a Stormraven or whatever unique one they have (bar GK and BA hahahaha suck it) or via teleportation.
They don't land at a base then trundle along. Even tanks are dropped INTO THE ACTION via Thunderhawk.
I want (and don't even care if I get) to land a force and have a limited amount to call on to reinforce, job to do X or Y. Blow up X or Y. Kill X or Y. With the limited shit I have.
Not build a base and have to memorise build orders to get out of it. I want to be in the action, not managing a base.
I don't even HATE DoW1, I love it. DoW2 has lots of good bits to (cover, graphics, experience system, loot). I'd accept 'base building' if each faction was more unique.
But there is no way a Space Marine force can build shit to then get it in the way they do.
>>336350213
Erase tyranids
Necrons return
>>336350181
surely it will have orks and chaos too. Space Marines, Chaos, Orks. Those are the 3 by defaults.
>>336350213
Remove Tau and bring back old crons.
>>336350213
Remove SM and give Kroot mercenaries the chance they deserve.
>>336350227
>taking commands to kill yourself seriously
kys lad
>>336349929
>By that logic literally every RTS with hero units is a fucking MOBA
We're going by your retarded logic, after all. Dawn of War II has no basebuilding and smaller squad sizes than the first game, but still has more in common with the first game than a MOBA, yet according to you, Dawn of War II's gameplay is 'eerily similar' to a MOBA even though none of its game modes, core gameplay mechanics or map layouts are reminiscent of a standard MOBA game.
Wargame has no focus on basebuilding either, guess it's a MOBA!
>>336350109
Kawai Yo Senpai
>>336350061
>>336350213
>ERASE:
Tau
>BRING BACK:
Squats
>>336350213
Kill space furries, bring back robots.
>yfw 30k not 40k
>>336350256
Chaos Rising has goat lines, Tarkus a best.
>>336348518
>paying thousands of dollars for plastic
>>336349969
>Unless, of course, you're telling me the 49 or more people in this thread have the same amount as you do, or I do?
Not saying that, just pointing out that assuming makes an ass our of you and me.
Also, how can you have 15k of lizardmen if you're playing AoS. Or did you forget that the AoS points system hasn't been released yet :^)
>>336349530
>DoW 2 had it the right way
dow 2 still had bases, they just sucked
and fuck the retreat system so much
DoW 3 should either have good base building (AoE/SupCom) or no basebuilding at all (that means no fucking dota fountain that takes up 1/10th of the map and ruins the map layout completely)
>>336350230
You're right Focus is alright but Eugen can go fuck itself
>>336350213
erase squats
oh wait
>>336350280
Space Marines and Chaos are the only true guaranteed. have have been used the last handful of times for the second fiddle bad guy but that could be swapped out for any other race at any point.
>>336350167
What would be the point in a DOW game if not even one of those is present?
>IQ will never have a increased population limit so we could rekt and get rekt with a huge amount amount of lasers o dead bodies everywhere
>>336348662
>guys i'm a lore expert
You're a fucking retard dude, do your research before posting crap like this next time.
>>336350342
>everyone thinks the issue with 1 v 2 is base building
>not the real issue, which is the fact the unit count was absolutely minuscule
>>336349940
Well, now it's gone, people can't moan about it being the reason /tg/ is shit. We have to accept /tg/ is shit due to the people on it, not due to the quests. Questers stuck to their quests. But it's the shitposters which are the problem. Look at /AoSG/, they're attacked every thread for "stop liking what I don't like". Why? Why can't they just do what they do? I have no investment in AoS really, but I do check on to see what's happening.... It's full of shitposters. Then we have them in 40kg. Then we have them elsewhere. It's unfortunately from certain parts of 4chan and /v/ is one of them.
>WH40k lore speaks about battles with thousands of units.
>Devs said they didn't add tyranids to the first game because the engine wasn't capable of showing the number of units to represent the tyranids as they should.
>DoW 2 is released.
>Tyranids are in.
>Fucking skirmish battles with 4 or 5 squads.
Bravo
>>336349690
post yfw when its battlefleet dlc
>>336350109
>tfw no more Rozen Maiden spam
>tfw no more gaki threads
>tfw no more aniki threads
I miss the old days
IT WILL BE A MOBA
>>336350195
>>336350217
>What the fuck are points, something to do with the tabletop game?
Unless we're talking about AoS, yes. Every game you play has a set point limit, and everything, the units, the upgrades, fortifications, etc. all cost points. You build your army list by spending those points on units and upgrades
>>336350181
>WH40k without Chaos
Unlikely unlesspre-order dlc
>>336350452
>>336350506
Hope so, modern DoW is shit and a good 40k moba would be fun.
>>336348327
Shut it fag boy
>>336350213
Erase Sister of battle
Bring backEnslavers
>>336350453
Yes, and look how amazing Ultimate Apocalypse turned out
>throw a million different units into the game for no other reason than for the sake of it to appease retards who just want to look at explosions and massive meatgrinders for two hours at a time
>game has no fucking balance at all
>>336348213
My hope: Dawn of War 1 with update Graphics, the same quality voice acting and some more units/maps.
What they probably will do: Dawn of War 2 MOBA Version with DAY 1 preorder bonus.
>>336349940
>less than 10% of the board was quests
>/qst/ ruined /tg/
/tg/ here
PLEASE NO BASE BUILDING
>>336350489
DOW is not connected to BFG:A at all
>>336350263
>>336350301
Good taste. Oldcrons were interesting due to their mysterious past and how scary they are.
>>336350452
Lobotomy best bionik muddifikayshun.
>>336348390
I think both 1 & 2 were alright, though 1's system was way better for multiplayer games.
Since I don't play a lot of MP I will be okay with both options.
>>336348518
I own a 3k Eldar army pal.
Fuck DoW2 it's shite because of the scale. Good game. Not a good 40k game.
I Would accept DoW2 with a larger scale though and more units.
>>336350526
What's stopping me from using my points to deploy only heroes?
I have never played the tabletop or even seen it played so forgive me if that's stupid
>>336350392
>act of aggression wasn't just wargame with basebuilding/worthwhile story
they had ONE fucking job
>>336350563
>>336350552
There are two extremes to any scale, jumping to the other doesnt prove anything.
2 was too small. Thats just a fact. 1 had a far better pop limit.
>>336350506
>>336350538
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF8Pt64dlXc
Already exists.
>>336350213
Erase Tau and bring back Oldcrons, now with some actual fluff
>>336350217
>What the fuck are points, something to do with the tabletop game?
Each unit/squad/special equipment is assigned a point value and points are used to determine how many points worth of models/gear you bring to the game. People can for example decide to play a 1000 point match and it's then up to the player does he want to bring a ton of weak units or few strong ones fully decked out in special equipment/abilities.
I want DOW1 style or Wargame style
>MUH MILLIONS AND BILLIONS AND TRILLIONS OF UNITS ON THE SCREEN XD
Even the tabletop doesn't do this.
Just shut the fuck up already, no one wants a game that has no gameplay because it's just vapid smashing of two blobs together.
>>336350487
>WH40k lore speaks about battles with thousands of units.
>when chapters are nearly dead
Sure there are big battle but only with imperial cucks
>>336350453
unit count wasn't an issue
individual units had enough abilities that it was difficult to micromanage what you did have
increasing the unit count further would've just made it a micromanagement clusterfuck.
That's not a big deal when you can just churn out more units to throw into a grinder without a thought or care for tactics, but when you're playing a tactics game, you need to micro stuff.
>>336349587
I miss the old Raptors with their bat/bird-like cybernetic legs.
At least you can take from Warp Talons the needed parts.
>>336350587
>Eldar
>has fag taste
Not a surprise here.
Are Space Marines all allies?
Are they all friends?
>>336350508
>>336350489
>pic clearly shows DAWNOFWAR
have you tried looking at the pic?
>>336350538
fuck you, go play the 40k moba that already exists
>>336350531
>>336350540
>ERASE one major faction
>major faction
>>336350653
>unit count wasn't an issue
Yes it was, because im saying it is one.
>>336349960
>Tactics should focus on units and TACTICS, not fucking build orders and resource economy.
This.
>>336350379
Same way as you have 10k of Lizardmen. By playing WHFB still. AoS isn't for me, friend. It's for kids. It's a gateway game. Also the term 'people' does not mean "everybody in this thread".
"the members of a particular nation, community, or ethnic group."
and that community is people who will drop games despite claiming to be fans, even before they're released. I don't need to point out Total War or Deathwing in the archives for you to know this.
>>336348518
I have two full shelves of 40K novels.
Warporn is best porn.
>>336350506
Please god no, DoW II was already too much like a MOBA, and the MOBA market itself is already too oversaturated as it is. We NEED a proper RTS game in the series, not another traditional RTS dev falling victim to the MOBA craze.
>>336350580
>periscope
>>336350352
It would be double-edged. Good background, but SM would be too proeminent.
>>336350612
/tg/ here again
FUCK ANIME POSTERS
>>336350213
Remove Tau, acquire unfucked newcrons with ruling C'tan, not pokemon.
>>336350623
It has been cancelled tho
>>336350576
I'm not a fan of the tomb king personality but what I hate the absolute most is that they lost their FTL and instead use stolen parts of the webway.
INSIDER HERE
BELIEVE ME OR NOT BUT FEEL FREE TO QUOTE THE SHIT OUT OF THIS POST LATER ONIT HAS BASEBUILDINGBUT IT'S NOT A "PURE" RTSYOU HAVE A MAIN SQUAD WITH A DETAILED TECH TREE AND SKILL THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MICRO AND FULLY CONTROL SIMILAR TO DOW2BUT YOU ALSO HAVE PRODUCTION FACILITIES THAT CONTINUOUSLY SPAWN AI CONTROLLED MINIONS THAT WILL ATTACK NONSTOPTAKING AND SECURING NODES ON THE MAP GIVES TO RESOURCES THAT YOU EITHER SPEND ON MAIN SQUAD UPGRADES OR MORE MINIONS
>>336350617
>2 was too small. Thats just a fact
Eh, no, it's just 'just a fact'. Dawn of War II's gameplay would fall apart with much higher population caps because the game is already ten times more micro-intensive at the core level than Dawn of War 1 ever was.
>>336350629
I never liked the idea of this system before I played battlefleet gothic, it's actually fucking perfect.
>>336350685
When the Dark Eldar aren't torturing people in creative ways, their shenanigans are amusing.
>>336350610
wargame wouldn't work with basebuilding
You don't seem to grasp the idea that basebuilding and unit tactics are polar opposites, you cannot have both.
>>336350280
As stated in the thread before, Chaos wasn't in vanilla DoW2.
>>336348518
I will openly admit that I am not a fan of Warhammer because it's extremley autistic and the company that owns it is a horrible joke. I like the Dawn of War games becuse they're fun games with a good self contained story.
On a side note, I have never met a Warhammer player who wasn't a complete sperglord.
>>336350708
>>336350747
>"guise i lurk in the 40k general!!"
>"listen to me!!"
>>336350774
>>336350774
Shut the fuck up
>>336350774
>BUT YOU ALSO HAVE PRODUCTION FACILITIES THAT CONTINUOUSLY SPAWN AI CONTROLLED MINIONS THAT WILL ATTACK NONSTOP
plsno
