Defend dark souls 3 pvp
>defend gank squads
You could throw out an acid cloud, you know
if you are going to invade to try and fuck up someone's run, don't be surprised if they cheese your ass to death.
red soapstone if you want honoburu duels.
>>336341971
its just one more shitty feature in a shitty game. Dont get hung up about it
>>336342061
>2 phantoms escorting them through the level
They're already fucking up their game much more than I would ever have.
>>336341971
Okay
*summons two righteous allies and then uses a dried finger to bring in a third shining knight of the sun*
>>336342230
So why do you bother invading at all then, just play the game alone, duh or lay summon soaptstones, like you know, the red one
you have NO RIGHT to complain. NONE
>>336341971
Defend your life cunt. There is like a hundred threads about this piece of shit.
>>336341971
>just watches
coward
six-man brawls are better than 1v1s
>>336343741
odds are he'd just kill his friend cus friendly fire
How the fuck do i git gud at pvp?
Been invading/getting invaded for around 10 hours now and its just full of bullshit.
I get stunlocked to death, while I can only hit another player twice then they can roll afterword.
Fight someone using the same weapon as me, they do double my damage unbuffed, even though mine is +10
Cant parry at all, though this is probably due to shit Australian internet.
>>336341971
Holy fuck, leave it to the french faggot to be a coward and just stay back while his bro gets fucked over by a ganksquad.
You swine.
>>336344126
>>336344126
>>I get stunlocked to death, while I can only hit another player twice then they can roll afterword.
did you ever try rolling?
>>336344126
play dark souls 2 instead, it's the only one with half decent pvp
>>336344460
I f*cking love this meme
>>336344521
prove me wrong
you can't
>>336341971
I love the games and all, but Souls' pvp is fucking garbage and it has remained that way since DeS
>>336341971
>playing pvp
lol what da fug
>>336341971
>he just stood there when his plunge could at least kill some of them
Anyone who cries about ganks is just shit at this game. It has by far easiest ganks in series, even easier than in BB.
>>336344460
yeah but the mobs have good tracking so i cant move right and backstab them for free like in ds1 so the game is bad and also made by the infamous "b-team"
>>336341971
Miyazaki can do no wrong.
so many goddamn foreigners in my souls now
>>336343741
He is french.
>>336342039
acid cloud does nothing, you need to stay for the full duration of like 5 of them to break your items
durability may as well not exist in DaS3
>>336344621
stupid ds2fag i bet you think there should be a blue eye orb too
>>336341971
Gank squads can be pretty easy and fun to deal with under the right circumstances. If you can't beat them head-on, you have to play smart. I like ti fall back using the obscuring ring and shoot them off ledges with the greatbow. Also, 90% of the time gank squads will get overconfident, since they have the numerical advantage they think it's a guaranteed win so they'll get sloppy and careless. Just find weaknesses and exploit them. That feeling when you do is mega satisfying.
>>336341971
Roll roll attack
>>336344434
Getting stun locked means if they hit you you cant perform any action at all, including rolling you stupid nigger.
>>336341971
baguette
>>336344732
nah killing thousands of silver knights is a much better way to level up a covenant
>this is what miyahacki drones actually believe
>>336344760
dumb fuck, uninstall
>>336344460
>gank squads not existing in daso2
There's more faggy fight clubs in that piece of shit than any other souls games
Never listen to memers, daso2 is the literal worst for balance
>b-but muh unbalanced straight sword!
daso2 has 10 times the bullshit with the added bonus of being constantly invaded throughout the entire game.
>>336341971
>everyone isnt aware of you
>everyone back is showing
>everyone is near cliff
holy shit, you nearly get an epic invasion if you do it right
>>336344718
This, literally the only thing that durability affects is weapons that lower it with certain moves like the MLGS does.
>>336344831
>want to play pvp
>complain about getting invaded
you feeling alright there son
>>336344760
figures you would call me a stupid nigger when you don't even know how the most basic game mechanics work in ds3
Shoulda thrown a firebomb and knocked them off the cliff
>>336344460
>broken arena matchmaking system
>no red/blue eye orbs
>broken hitboxes
Yeah no.
>>336342230
Why do you care about how other people are playing the game you super autist?
>>336344913
desperation for wanting to clear shit with no other way of stopping invasions besides just stopping all online content led to even more faggots cheating
it has the most cheaters out of all the souls games too
daso2 is the literal worst and there's honestly nothing you can say that can make it shine over the others
>>336341971
its horrible and the only ones defending it didnt play ds1 on release or hardcore
I just beat all bosses, tried different builds, different raids/invasion, sl 99 etc.
all under 30 hours of a save
im over it
fuck this game I should have bought street fighter v
>>336344980
>no blue eye orbs
I think you got your games confused there chum
>>336344718
They'll fix durability in a future patch, right? And by fix, I mean increase durability rates by at least 300%?
>>336344885
I thought the moved all the durability costs to FP?
>Joke invade the area at the final fight with my fists
>Manage to find a squad where one will box back
>Other phantoms circle around and clap as we exchange punches
>Another invader appears and they all rush him
>Back to boxing right after
>Parry him and go for the riposte
>Phantoms instantly jump up and rush us
>They just lean in and clap or cheer
Fuck legit invading this is way more fun
>>336345067
Nice blog, where can i subscribe?
Do you have a Patreon or whatever?
>>336345091
right after they fix poise :^)
>>336344460
What is supposedly so great about it anyway? Also there's more to these games than pvp.
Just play offline you niggers.
>>336345094
Weapon arts use FP, but the charged R2s of the MLGS still use durability for some reason.
>>336345049
You can actually punish rolls in 2 and there's no parry spamming faggotry. Just face the fact that even though you may not like it, and it's still flawed, it's leagues above any of the other entries.
>>336344460
lol none of the souls games have decent PVP
why don't people play a fighting game or something if they want 'honorable 1v1 duels'
>>336345176
better covenants
better rolling mechanics that allow you to actually punish rolls with weapons other than the estoc
slower estus recovery
better build variety
hollowed invasions
less ganksquads
>>336344581
It is funny how easy it is to punish shield turtles in this game and ds2 had it easy too.
I constantly see webms where enemies are destroyed by magic and then visceraled.
>>336345167
nice shit post you little faggot
I guarantee youve been posting here for less than 2-3 years
kill yourself
EST MORT
>>336345250
can't invade players in fighting games you gibbering mongoloid
>>336341971
Invaders lose fucking nothing when they invade everyone in this thread is a fucking bitch
>>336345215
>no parry spamming faggotry
>in 2
holy shit, the best shitpost I've seen today
you can continue arguing with someone else, you're clearly just either retarded or contrarian faggot.
>>336345264
>better rolling mechanics
>DS2
>>336345323
They lose all their souls you dumbass.
>>336341971
>didn't jump attack on the taunting phantom.
Should've at least taught that faggot a lesson. Maybe even give him a little heart attack.
>>336344707
>>336345331
>lol banana which was patched
cry more, there's literally nothing any of the other games do better than 2 in regards to pvp
>>336344930
>roll and dodge attacks perfectly
>suddenly hit once due to lag or phantom range
>now cant move at all
>die
Poise is turned off so unless you want to be a shieldfag and get guardbroken, you have to not get hit once to avoid stunlocked.
>>336341971
>Some guy invades
>UGS and Fist Weapon for parrying
>Dance around him, avoiding his attacks while slowly making him waste his estus
>Literally outplaying the shit
>Gets lucky parry when I try to hit him twice
>Instakills me
Do people honestly think parrying takes skill? It literally takes all the fun out of a duel. The fact that they also get to be invincible during the critical hit is just the fucking cherry on top.
There's nothing you can do, the damage is obscene and every faggot does it and thinks they're good at the game.
>>336341971
I can't because I don't enjoy it. I'd like to but the combination of not being that good and having invasions so stacked against me means it's just not fun.
>>336345372
Doesn't matter when you can go in with zero souls so my point still stands fag
>>336345294
With this level of salt in your body you're right, you should have bought SFV.
>>336345362
ADP is still better than this bullshit >>336344621
>N-not fair! Why can't I fuck unwilling people up with my pure PVP build and a stage full of enemies that ignore me.
Man. Those poor DaS2 ratfucks are pretty damn pathetic.
>>336345362
>havel/fap and a million end in 1 is good
>literally infinite chain rolling in 3 is good
2 is the least shit when it comes to rolling and punishing rolls, stop shitposting
>>336345415
roll after the second hit, dumb /v/ermin trash
>>336345067
how do I unlock ds1 hardcore?
>being proud of playing broken pieces of shit day 1
is that how?
>>336345372
I see this shit all the time, you get to choose when to invade.
What the fuck are you complaining about when you could have just spent the souls?
>>336344621
>>336345467
>being a slow weapons fag
There's your problem.
>>336344581
Straight sword greatshield faggots are the worst.
Extra points for Havel's armor because they don't know poise and defense does fuck all in the game and obviously minmaxing.
>>336345568
*tips chaos blade*
>>336345568
>lol just buff dexfags even more
fuck off
>>336345415
why don't you learn how to play the game before talking shit on a mongolian pancake board
There are two kinds of people in this world
people who are right
and people who claim dark souls 2 isn't shit
>>336345530
you cant retard. i smash that roll button but you wont get away from a fast weapon or rapier. for greatswords sure but that shit is easy to dodge.
>>336345265
greatshields are almost impossible to punish
>>336345491
>stage full of enemies that ignore me
I always have at least 3 seeds on me just in case I get invaded. Fuck that shit, if you're gonna invade me then you're gonna deal with the same shit I have to.
>that are right after pontiff sultan
>"just gonna run through real quick"
> not even halfway before aldritch faithful shows up
>FUCK
>young white branch, invader runs past me a few times
>finally notices me, we start fighting
>heals just as another invader pops in
>whatafag, 2v1 now
>fall back to the starting area and get a summon
>grapenigger out of nowhere
>escalates to a 3v3 with invaders coming and going
>killed at least 4
>finally die, it's been like 40 minutes fuck
I just wanted to get Anor Londo, fun as fuck though
>>336345743
more like people who aren't retards and people who fellate miyazaki endlessly
give me a single reason why powerstancing or the dual wield system in 2 isn't much better than the retardation in 3
>>336345769
stop posting shitbag
>pvp in Dark Souls 3
>>336345852
Fuck, i miss this dual wield from DS2...
I hope you guys don't use the Farron GS this way.
Also this wasn't a duel.
>>336345547
I wasn't complaining. But there is no point saying invaders don't lose anything when that's flat out false.
>>336345461
>hurrr durrr muh embers
You also get to chose when to get invaded, this isn't DS2.
Also, this game punishes you more if you invade and lose than DS1 by going all the way back to retrieve your souls.
>>336345852
Give me one reason why more moves is a bad thing. Weapon arts are less restrictive than powerstancing and adds more variety in attacks.
>>336345808
This.
You can't even break guard in 3 kicks.
All they have to do is lower it for a split second before the kicks and you can't ever break them.
Most weapons can't break them before you ran out of stamina.
The worst is when some faggot phantom white knights the host by doing nothing but standing in front of them with his greatshield up.
>>336345984
that's fucking great
>you can parry the spin slashes
Farron, too anime for it's own good
>>336345450
>lucky
>implying you weren't just R1 spamming, probably with an estoc or straight sword
L2 exists for a reason you know.
>>336341971
Defend this shit dark souls 2 babies.
>mfw the entire thread full of salt
>mfw most of these faggots are probably SS/Estoc/GS users
>mfw destroying people with Witch's lockes and being the biggest dick invader I possibly can
maybe you guys should go back to 2, you clearly just want broken weapons and spells so you can put little to no effort into everything, including your lives.
>>336345984
>He doesnt try to push you off the edge
>Doesnt even mix up an R1 for rusing
>Just spams multi-sword drfiting
>Actually uses the 3rd hit of the DDR combo that close
God damn
>>336346158
They won't, because the Dark Souls 2 apologists don't care about anything besides PvP.
So is Kiln the new pvp area?
>>336346228
I actually didn't expect that to hit. Just wanted to see if he'll really do the last slash. My fucking face when I saw that he really was going for it. I knew right then and there he's dead.
This franchise is never gonna be more than just a shitty console crawler.
Also the games fanboys ruined it as much as the slapped on pvp and blanket nerfs/buffs did.
>Prepare to die edition
From catered to the Souls shitters by not improving on their shitty ass series at all for the sake of being an unfair, clunky, inconsistent mess with insane controls and double mapping.
They are as much hacks as you faggots aren't gamers.
>>336346246
high wall first bonfire
>>336346413
I always thought pvp was a last second tag along but some faggots insist that it is an intended mechanic and that duels should be a thing.
>>336346413
Please do not falseflag with Dragon's Dogma content.
>>336346413
Can't argue with that.
>>336346543
it is
but there's nothing else to do after your first playthrough, especially in a game that railroads you like DaS3
>>336346246
Stray demon's bridge. Always plenty of red signs up there
>>336344581
>watching them all flail like idiots when you're clearly in a parry attack animation
>>336342061
/thread.
>>336346013
Give me one reason why you would want to block with a whip in your off hand.
>Don't let hosts summon more assistants while invaded, limit their summons to two, counting any that are already summoned when invasion hits
PVP fixed, duel clubs die
>it's another souls thread
[-]
>>336346413
>gamers
you were doing fine until that, kill yourself redditor
>>336346413
>Souls games
>clunky, inconsistent mess
>Dragon's Dogma webm
this is a bait
>invading as a grapist in Profaned Capital
>run around for five minutes looking for host
>a Blue Sentinel invades, starts bodyguarding with the host's butt buddy
>I notice them across the bridge
>I literally stand there and watch as the host backs up across the bridge being fighting a gargoyle
>about halfway across the Sentinel notices me
>does the shout, trying to get host to notice
>starts sprinting across the bridge
>it's far too late, host literally backs into me
>I crush him in two swings of my greatsword
>he never even knew that I was even there
>Sentinel watches, does the collapse gesture
Why does shit like this only happen when I'm a grapist? As a Finger it's literally nothing but gank squads.
>>336344014
>friendly fire
This and the Host getting unlimited Phantoms are what bother me the most.
The Host and his bodyguards can fuck you in a corner with no consequences but if you try do the same with your invader buddy you'll probably fucking kill each other
>>336344460
Yes, agreed. PVP in DS2 was best. Fuck the arenas though. Get the Agape ring early and hang out fighting at the bridge. Level up gear by guarding the bell towers and farming chunks. That was fun.
>>336345834
When you get invaded there's a very very high probability you have a phantom helping you. If you don't then you still get more estus and health.
But sure keep telling yourself you're evening the playing field.
>>336345808
This, kicks not breaking great shields is pretty bullshit. And trying to stamina drain them is literally impossible.
>>336346621
Problem is that it affects the normal game way too much. I forced myself to play through the game with all weapons and nothing is worthwhile. Heavy Weapons are so utterly gimped it's not even funny anymore. I bet they are fine in pvp tho, I wouldnt know I play offline and that's when you realize how fucked the game is and how good it could've been without the invasion bullshit.
so many dumb cunts that need to uninstall
>>336345848
>being invaded solo
Almost never happens. It happened to me ONCE in almost 50 hours.
>Stand there doing nothing while your bro dies
YOU'RE LITERALLY THERE TO HELP HIM. Webm related, it was me earlier.
That's where the balance is. If you invade and are by yourself, hide with the invisibility ring and wait for backup if you don't think you can chip them down or take them all at once.
Yes invaders are disadvantaged now. It actually makes it a lot more fun. You have to get good, and it makes actually getting the kill much more satisfying. I hated it at first but now I enjoy it.
>>336345984
Your lucky he missed the chameleon parry however
>>336341971
What a wasted opportunity
Fuck yourself OP
>>336345984
There's no right way to use the FGS it's just complete ass.
>>336347194
that's not because of pvp, that's because of bloodborne design spilling over making most enemies sanic fast and hyper aggressive
heavy weapons just can't handle that
>>336347303
Had the obscuring ring.
>>336344460
>no pvp
>decent pvp
>>336345808
bleed damage.
>>336347372
He still would have been able to see you when you got in lock on range however
>>336347248
>One of them rolls off at the beginning before you even get there
>Other one doesn't even try help his buddy as you anally annihilate him
Why are Sunbros and their hosts so fucking retarded now? I put my summon signs only in front of boss rooms to stop shit like this from happening. Even then I have fucking retarded hosts that stand there and wait for invaders or summon two other phantoms and walk in. So many fucking new players to the series that are braindead retarded.
>>336346413
Can't really argue. Fromsoft shouldn't make sequels. They never seem to learn from their mistakes and when they try to they just make things worse.
>>336346749
All they need to do is add an area where you can summon more for fight clubs in dlc and that would be the perfect solution.
They won't though. You should either get used to it or move on. I opted for the latter.
>>336346775
Bleh if that's your problem son, then I don't believe you.
It's what souls shitters try so hard to defend, their "right" to be gamers. That's why they are torturing themselves with a shitty game that didn't improve on it's horrible controls and camera since Demon's Souls.
They need this franchise to tell them they don't suck at video-games. That they are indeed real gamers.
As pathetic as this may sound, it's true.
>>336346953
That's another thing I'd not thought about. It just keeps getting worse.
>>336346794
How my underdeveloped little friend? DD pushed more boundaries than all souls games combined. Hell they didn't push anything. If DD had Souls success we would have glorious games instead of the same shitty game since demon's Souls. There is so much innovation in this one title it's lightyears ahead of any competition. Of course they bit more than they could chew, but you really can't blame them for what they tried to achieve. At least they fucken tried, and iin a lot of parts they succeeded.
>>336341971
duels can be ok if you play a quality build.
invasions are shite though
also,
anyone tried a Gargoyle Flame Spear at 40 STR, DEX, INT, and FAI? even with just 40 str and dex it gets about 500 AR and the damage is pretty great even if it's split. could probably get very strong with proper investment
>>336347587
Maybe people like it because it's fun?
>>336347819
Talk about retarded. Every time one of you weeb faggots posts some dumb anime gif or webm I'm reminded why I despise the entire convention.
>>336347819
Posting a webm from sword art isn't going to help your credibility.
I'd rather face nothing but 3 man ganja squads for the rest of my invades if it meant I'd never face a 2 handing havels shield ass wipe again. 40 endurance and that shield never breaks, even with the ring. Sure, their damage is piss poor, but it blocks while attacking and can't be parried. It's more cancer than estoc could ever be
>>336346245I liked Dark Souls 2 PvE.
>>336348005
Thank that pineapple faggot for that, he keeps inspiring shitty metas.
>>336348005
Gank*
Fucking phone
>>336347364
They would've if they even gave a damn. They would've had to put some effort in and, god forbid, improve on the combat and mechanics instead of copy pasting with minute changes here and there.
In 5 minutes I could make this games combat system at least 50% better.
Surely a seasoned developer studio should be able to in 3 years, right?
Truth is they don't give a crap. From software are complete hacks and all the talent is in the art and level design departments. And funnily enough you won't find a single japanese name in those. They are all chinese/Korean. Its funny look it up.
What's the best UGS or Club or whatever to smash through faggots?
>>336347819
>How my underdeveloped little friend?
no need to sound like a condescending shitwit
dd is a clunky as any other jap shit
japs cant make good rpgs that arent clunky as fuck simple as that this isnt even an arguement about which is better since both are clunky as fuck (with dd standing out when it comes to that imo)
>>336347819
The only watchable arc in that shit show.
>>336348058
It's not his fault the games d
Fucking broken to be fair.
>>336348161
I kind of enjoyed the first season. It was still kinda shitty though.
>>336348079
Black Knight Greataxe, Spiked Mace, Dragonslayer Greataxe, take your pick.
Spiked Mace scales best with Str, is fairly light, does Bleed and has a great WA that can wombo combo people.
BKGA is a monster and its WA is a buff changes your R2's. Buffed R2's can break Havels Shield if you're using the Knight Slayer Ring.
DSGA is heavy as fuck, hits roughly as hard as the BKGA and its L2's one-shot people, but its moveset is kinda garbage.
>>336347837
Of course some like it because its fun, but you can't with a straight face tell me that you are not furious with the controls and camera, which haven't improved one bit in 5 games. I played all of them and i know what I like about them, it's the art and level design, I hate everything else. I had the same complaints since Demons souls, the same.
And now the question is why is that allowed? Because it gets you killed because the "git gud" crowd that so desperately tries to entertain the illusion that they don't suck at video-games, excuse EVERYTHING. They don't even think about it for a second what a fucking mess this series is.
>>336348005
>get summoned in the Pontiff area
>faggot in full Smough armor using Havel's Greatshield
>take out my +10 Carthus Shotel and bleed him like a little piggy as he panic fat rolls around and wastes all of his estus
>he gives up and jumps off the edge
man I actually love this weapon, even for normal combat it's great and has solid combos and damage on top of the bleed
>>336347918
It's a random pick, but it's interesting that not the post but the image gives credibility to what people say.
Are you really that pathetic? How old are you son?
Viable pvp builds:
>straight Sword R1 spam
>BKGA parry spam
>yhorm's/dragonslayer axe hitbox abuse
>great shield
>>336347915
Fishing kids was never that easy. Kill yourself faggot~kun.
>summon some red sign guy
>dragonslayer swordspear
>never attacks
>only rolls around
>did the weapon art like 4 times
>finally hits the fourth hit
>lost 90% of health
>starts r1 spamming
>does a 180 spin and hits me with third stab
>>336347819
>If DD had Souls success
There's a reason it doesn't, most people I know never finished it because it's bland and uninteresting. I fell for the "it gets better once you reach BBI" meme and played for 120 hours trying to reach to that part where it gets better, even farmed BBI 2.0 for gear but I never really had fun. The only fun area was Soulflayer Canyon, because the level design doesn't suck ass like everywhere else.
>>336348494
I don't really care Im just letting you know why other people will ignore you.
cant defend 3v1
Literally no one understands that Poise is turned off for good because it gives you freedom in what armour you wear and not go for most OP build, because if there is one thing wrong with PvP it's the unbalanced weapons.
It's either the Dark Sword, or the Dual Wielding Swords you fight against and it gets boring. I want to fight a different variety of styles
Soulsbabbies have ego problems, thats why they need to go for the supposed man-o-war set
>>336348096
Oh come oooon, you really can't tell me that if you look at both games you can say they are the same.
The combat is fluid and the controls are perfect while maintaining way more abilities at the same time. How often have you kicked in Souls instead of a normal attack?
Besides DD had one PC port and that one was infinitely better than any PC port in the history of video-games. YOU CAN'T EVEN FUCKING MAP YOUR CONTROLS IN DS3.
This is why we can't have nice things, people are too stupid and kill good devs and praise shitty ones. I fucken hate this planet.
>>336348863
>I want to fight a different variety of styles
That's why people want poise. How good is Estos R1 spamming going to be if someone can just Poise through it and slap them with a Greatsword? DaS3 is extremely generous with iframes. Midrolling in DaS3 is equivalent to flip ring in DaS1, even if you haven't got a lot of Poise you have more than enough iframes to handle a poise tank with a heavy weapon if you play smart. The only people who lose out are r1 spammers.
>>336349051
Poise is just going to help them if anything.
Frankly I just think DaS pvp is inherently flawed. It's never going to be what we want it to be.
>>336349051
Maybe, but if you just adjust DPS on those weapons and you can evade after the second or first hit anyway, it's not like they are not able to overcome.
It's like they haven't tested the game properly and they need us to do it for them.
>>336349265
>>336349051
it kinda bothered me, i played pure knight and fucked up every enemy, even abyss watchers with my trusty broadsword.
When i switched to Claymore i felt a bit hindered, especially in some of those Chalice-like corridors.
>>336348806
I don't believe you, either way I don't give two shit's about "other people" that obviously don'T deserve a word I give them.
That's why I still hang out here. This board has gone to shit since 06 and today it's just 80% scum but it's still the only place left on the internet where status or ego don't validate you but the content of your post.
I'm in my late 30's now and it doesn't matter, I don't know if you are 12 or 40, and I don't care, I only care about what you have to say and judge that and only that.
You guys should really think about what you got in 4chan and why it should be preserved. It's the last bastion of free spirit and anarchy on this godforsaken rock.
>fighting gankers
>giving 2 phantoms a good fight
>see just sitting there thinking he's safe
>run to him and backstab the fucker
>he dies with a 800 backstabu
Best feel
>>336345331
You are another dumb ass.
>>336349430
I'm a faggot who actually enjoyed sword art enough to watch it in its entirety. It's bad but something appealed to me I guess.
I'm also just waiting to die.
I bought the PS4 version and i don't mind 1v4 fights but there's one problem.
the PS4 can't handle 5 players + enemies + smoke + spell particles so i end up fighting R1 spammers at 10-15 FPS in certain areas.
>>336348964
yeah the fault is people not that the game was garbage
i know a good number of people who got dragon's dogma, liked it at first and then it gone all quiet
>>336349264
How so? Two guys in full Havels, one R1 spamming a Dark Sword, another swinging a Zweihander. Zwei will break the first guys poise long before the Dark Sword can stunlock him
The problem with straight swords isn't that they have no counter but that the counter isn't fun either. Parries and the other 'criticals' are just not fun mechanics really.
is there any way to tell if you're softbanned or whatever? I got invaded by a hacker nigger and he did the thing where they give you thousands of souls with each hit and stunlock you with instant hits. and ever since that I feel like I've been getting significantly less summons for everything and seeing less signs and messages
>>336349782
>full havels
Because I'm talking about lower sl pvp where the person using the lighter weapon will be able to wear heavier armor.
I don't really care if the games balanced at sl200 or whatever.
>>336341971
>Defend dark souls 3 pvp
It's not as bad as DeS PvP, post-release DaS1 pvp or post-release DaS2 pvp.
There, DUTY FULFILLED.
>>336348863
And you'd see less Dark Swords if poise existed, since they're fast, strong, and cause stagger.
People act like the DaS1 poise system was bad when it wasn't, the problem was it was too easy to stack poise.
Now if you want to wear heavy armor, you're forced to either use up all your ring slots, or increase whatever the stat that increases carry weight is. It's literally impossible to reach high poise without sacrificing something, unlike in DaS1 where you just needed 3 pieces of armor to have enough to resist an UGS hit.
>>336349885
You will get a notification at the menu screen. Also softban in 3 doesn't work like in 2, you won't be able to co-op at all.
My PS+ expired. What am I missing?
>>336349942
>the problem was it was too easy to stack poise.
More that backstabs had no startup and poise allowed for you to fish a whole lot more effectively, but that's not an issue in 3 anyway.
>>336341971
Real talk, not fishing for bait, or anything:
Should I buy this game? I was disappointed with the PVP in DS2, which I played on release. So I've been holding out.
>>336350103
Wait until it's on sale. PvP is worse than in 2 and half the covenants are bunk. If you can get it for <$20 it's fine.
>>336350103
don't buy souls games for the pvp
>>336350103
I wouldn't buy any Souls game for pvp if I were you.
>>336350173
Oh, I know, I just didn't like how I played through DS2 twice and only ever met 2 invaders in NG+. It's not as if I was playing it 3 months after release, either.
>>336349051
>>336349051
>>336349942
Every weapon that needs poise has hyperarmour. All other weapons don't need poise. It's as simple as that. The lack of poise was a problem in DaS2 because the only weapon type that had hyperarmour frames were the UGS.
Adding poise would just shift the meta towards raw-infused straight swords and stacking VIT instead of Refined, and just fuck over low equipment load builds.
>>336350161
>PvP is worse than in 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TboX4CPGWHA
How new?
And that shit was not fixed till july/august 2014, if I recall correctly.
>>336350103
Some Boss designs are really interesting and the atmosphere in them is in my opinion really high and doesn't loose to other Soulsgames in that category
PvP and Overall it's a bit bland, some NPC Questlines are broken or cryptic too and what this guy said>>336350161
>>336344809
Yeah, this is honestly indefensible. Blue summoning should work better. Hell, remove way of the blue entirely if you have to and have blues just go anywhere invaders are.
>>336350003
alright cool, maybe the level ranges are just even more fucked now than I thought. takes ages to get Watchdogs summons on an SL 30 character and my 120 only get action in PvP hotspot areas
>>336350292
Invaders prioritize players who are accompanied by phantoms. You'll still get invaded solo, moreso than DaS2 at least
You also start with a dried finger this time.
>>336350292
I got invaded once in my entire playthrough, embered most of that time because the games incredibly easy for the most part.
>>336350337
>Every weapon that needs poise has hyperarmour
Except Greatswords. And Hyperarmour only works on the followthrough, it's completely useless against Estoc spam as it doesn't apply in the startup animation.
>>336350337
Greatswords need hyperarmor. They're in a shit spot right now. That's GS, not Ultra GS.
>>336350337
>Adding poise would just shift the meta towards raw-infused straight swords and stacking VIT instead of Refined
So, as I said, forcing players to sacrifice power for poise, and making straight sword spam more manageable. Sounds good to me senpai
>>336349908
I was just using an extreme example. The heavy weapon user wouldn't need as much armour anyway, just enough to tank a couple of hits from the lighter weapon. And for the record, I don't think the game is balanced at any level. From fucked the PvP hard in this one, and I'm not confidence they can fix it with patches or DLC.
>>336341971
I would've dropped down on the phantom that was standing there alone when the other two ran off, 1 down, 2 to go.
Also I don't really want to defend the PvP tho. It's just the way it is, in my NG+ I was constantly invaded since I was rushing through areas and constantly embered. 1on1 I fucked everyone up, players who are probably whining afterwards about crappy PvP. What's the big deal? You invade, sometimes you end up against more than one. You get invaded, sometimes you have multiple invaders. I actually enjoy 1vs>1 fights just to see if you can fuck them up in any kind of way, usually exploiting the environment.
The only real thing I have against PvP is the invincibility frames on players wielding a greatsword. They do a 3x swipe in which they are basically invincible and when they're finished they can roll, regain stamina and repeat. Fuck that.
>>336345127
Fight clubs are fun
>>336349758
The souls series only took of because of the git gud crowd. That's the only reason. Because so many people forced themselves to play it because they didn't want to admit that they either dont like it or in most cases fucken hated the games just because of "peer pressure".
From did nothing for that except roll with that. All they had to do was not improve on anything. They were lucky.
All in all it's an interesting showcase of how pop culture and society can go wrong.
>>336349942
>>336350081
That, and that Endurance did Equip burden as well as Stamina. Now, the guy fast rolling in Smoughs armour won't have enough stamina to stunlock you to death, or the guy constantly flailing his UGS won't be as manoeuvrable.
>>336350524
>And Hyperarmour only works on the followthrough
As it should be, in order to prevent retarded r1 mash to force trades.
>it's completely useless against Estoc spam as it doesn't apply in the startup animation.
Something something time your attacks better.
Ultraweapons are perfectly manageable, in my opinion.
>>336350597
Fair enough, although raw weapons are pretty decent this time round actually, and coupled with enhanced damage reduction they might end up out-perform Refined solely because of "fixed" poise.
>>336350586
>Except Greatswords.
>Greatswords need hyperarmor. They're in a shit spot right now.
Are you sure? I've used flamberge and 90% sure it has hyperarmour.
If no, then I agree, it's a legit complaint that gs don't have hyperarmour, they definitely should.
Still, game is a fucking godsend in terms of balance compared to previous games in their post-release state. I am sure in a couple of months things will improve drastically.
>>336350873
I don't think you're wrong. It's a shame honestly. Im glad they're looking at doing new things now.
>>336346006
Just pick your damn souls up. Whenever I invade, I clear the area I invade in my game, so that if I die I can pick up my souls without any problems, since even if you go in with zero, after like 10-15 invasions you will be sitting at like 40-50k souls from the kills. If you die, you just go through the empty level and pick them up. I literally costs you nothing to invade, you even get embers for the kills, I am sitting at almost 100 embers at the moment and that is including the fact that I gave away a bunch whenever I co-op with someone.
>>336351153
They might have some but it's notably less significant. I'm really not seeing any reason to use my Claymore over my Profaned.
>>336349730
Are those afro's legs?
>>336351153
>Are you sure? I've used flamberge and 90% sure it has hyperarmour.
Greatswords have Hyperarmour, but they haven't got enough to tank anything more than a light breeze.
>>336351153
Charged attacks should have some form of poise on them, they're completely useless for everything that isn't getting a hit after backstabbing an enemy in pve
>>336346928
>enter high wall
>summon grapist
>greet him
>he keeps trying to get behind me
>I already know how the covenants work so I keep my distance
>summon white phantom
>we all greet each other
>I go on ahead
>"Cooperator has died"
>Turn around to see grapist blocking the staircase
>backstabbed by a hollow
>proceed to get GRAPED
>>336351260
Indeed, he is such a kinky slut.
>>336350873
I have to admit that I'm one of the players you're referring to. I basically bought DaS3 to see what the fuzz was about and because I liked bloodborne which I got with my PS4 in a package. I do really enjoy DaS3 tho and I bought DaS2 when I finished NG to get more.
I fuckin hate DaS2 tho, so I wouldn't necessarily agree with the fact that they didn't make improvements. For me the combat in DaS2 feels really wonky because of the slower pace and the bossfights are boring as fuck. Also it's not at all harder than DaS3, I think it's actually easier since the enemies move so slow that I can grab a coffee between attacks. To balance that I guess they just put ganksquads everywhere so you're basically getting fucked from all sides and do have to actually figure out a way to easily dispose yourself of them.
Conclusion.
DaS3 is not easier than at least DaS2, I guess it just depends on the order you play them.
Combat in DaS3 is better than at least DaS2.
Bosses in DaS3 are better than at least DaS2.
How are these not improvements?
>>336347248
you won that because the host rolled off the ledge like an idiot, not because of anything else
You guys love DS2 pvp so much, link me some vids about how good it is.
I played it before they fixed shit, and I remember it being so bad which is the reason I never played invasions or pvp then.
It only got fixed a year after launch right?
>>336351609
You'd probably not like DaS either. It's more that you started with Bloodborne than anything. It's significant shift in design philosophy.
BB is probably my favourite to be honest but I'm struggling to like 3 even though it was good for a playthrough.
>>336341971
You don't defend Dark Souls 3 PvP! Dark Souls 3 PvP defends you?
>>336351609
>I basically bought DaS3 to see what the fuzz was about
Just like any other person with any other game? How else do you buy games? Do you somehow magically get knowledge about upcoming titles transmitted through space directly into your brain? Everyone buys games, films, because they heard somebody talking about it or saw a trailer that they like and so on. Like how fucking else would you buy them?
>>336341971
SPAM DAT PARRY BOYO
10/10 -IGNin it's current state it's retarded, but that's not the games fault, wish we found some techs soon
>>336351792
I guess, but I didn't want to generalize. I'm also not trying to bash the prequels, I just don't see how people can say DaS3 did not improve on previous DaS titles.
>>336345032
>playing games on ultra easy
Why even bother. It's literally zero effort when you have others play the game for you.
>>336351687
>you won that because the host rolled off the ledge like an idiot, not because of anything else
>I am legitimately retarded
White phantom ring makes you white troglodyte; not gold. The dude killed the host.
>>336352006
You can buy a game because it appeals to you when you bumped into a fuckin trailer or article or actually on an impulse you fuckin knobjockey. Do you buy all your games because everyone's taking about it on /v/? I'm sure I don't.
>>336342061
>red soapstone means no reward
Feels bad man
>>336344284
holy shit this.
Surprised no one else mentioned anything.
>>336352375
>fuckin trailer or article
Yeah and this not somebody else talking about a game?
>>336344621
Ok this is the only problem i've had with pvp.
Getting stuck in a corner and having to spam roll, especially when there's more than one.
It's straight rape at that point.
>>336351775
>>336351775
>link me some vids about how good it is.
>>336351687
>the host is a golden phantom
>>336352747
>fightclubs
>>336352260
>can't even answer the question
>>336341971
it's fun, balanced and has the highest skill cap of all the souls games
>>336343741
this, go for the plunge with a real weapon you pussy faggot
>>336352747
they look so cute
>>336345315
Oh so you WANT to invade people worlds and fuck up their progress? Well then you have to learn to deal with all the bullshit. What? Do you think that you're exempt for learning the game? The only way to invade successfully is to constantly invade the same area and learn it inside and out 100% completely. MASTER IT. Ever heard of practice and research? Fucking complaining little bitch.
>>336343643
>you have no right to complain
you are the reason this industry is shit.
>>336352867
wow you suck, git gud
>>336352867
lol fuckin noob. Could of just rolled away. You get so many i-frames when you warp in and roll it's ridiculous. I've never been hit post warp even while surrounded.
>>336352867
>That Blue Knight
Just look at that blue knight's reaction time to getting damaged, lmao.
>>336342061
red soapstones result in gank squads a majority of the time as well though.
>>336347819
>all those unnecessary flips
why do people watch this show?
>>336352747
>Avelyns
Got something that's not from the time of release?
>>336345032
The DS metagame fan base is not something you want to learn about. It'll make you hate games.
>>336352840
It's a dumb question. Why do I care about the speck on my wall? I just do.
>>336353007
WAHHHHHHH I CANT GANK PEOPLE ANYMORE
WAHHHHHHHHH I CANT VALIDATE MY TERRIBLE LIFE AND SMALL PENIS BY RUINING SOMEONE ELSES FUN
WAHHHHHHHH THEY ARENT DOING IT THE WAY I WANT THEM TO
WAHHHHHHHH I WANT TO GANK USING FUCKBOI TACTICS AND I CANT NOW WAHHHHH WAHHHH WAHHHHH WAHHHHH WAHHHH WAHHHHH WAHHHH WAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>336353201
Sort of false. Early on in a Souls release there are a lot more gank squads that summon red soapstones however they are easily trumped by the amount of duelers. Bad luck doesn't mean that most people are summoning reds for ganks. Gank squads will diminish with age.
>>336347325
nah it has potential. mixing r1 and l1 attacks keeps a good pressure, the different timing from those special attacks can get people offguard easy.
now, thinking this shit is devil may cry like that retard won't do at all.
>>336345491
>get invaded
>host tries to get me to follow him into a group of highly dangerous enemies
>use a seed of a tree of giants
>he crystals out
>>336352747
I want invasions. Not duels.
Is the longsword still the best all around practical weaponfu.
>>336353345
On what basis are you saying I'm incorrect? Your own experience? Why does yours matter more?
>>336341971
As an invader, you are supposed to be stronger than the average player. If you can't deal with unfair circumstances, you are on the wrong side of this fight.
Terrible invaders, please stop whining ffs, we've had enough of your kind in DS2.
>>336341971
>summon red sign soapstone cunts at Anor Londo, just before the area with dead giants
>kill them, but don't get much out of it
Good for PvP for PvP's sake, but garbage for item farming.
>>336353475
Been my favourite sidearm since the begining of the series, bot glad and sad that it is so good, on one hand my weaponfu is good, on the other it feels cheap using something so good.
No idea why people prefer the broadsword, the thrust of the longsword puts it ahead even if it does a bit less damage than the broadsword, the sheer utility of it is what makes it better.
>>336345984
it's satisfying seeing Farron GS users abused
>>336353998
it will probably be a while before I can play DS3, but the combat looks way faster than 1 and 2? More like what I have seen of Bloodborne?
