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Why are people hyped for this game again?
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Why are people hyped for this game again?
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name 1 person
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Beta was fun and I liked the other 3
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>>336340409
because todays audience are low IQ sheep that need their game on rails
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>>336340409
because they are not pcucks
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>>336340468
Salty PCuck.

This >>336340469
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Because I love Uncharted and it's multi player is fun as fuck too.

pc salt just permeates right through me since I'm too hyped for this.
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>>336340409
>not being hyped for this top budget game

Pc cucks have nothing to be excited about, so it's understandble that you have that view smdh
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>>336340431
Samuel Drake
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>>336340409
the singleplayer is a fun interactive indiana jones movie and the multiplayer is pretty good
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Because the last 3 were good.

>Salty pcuck detected because he can't play Indiana Jones
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>>336340660
>Uncharted 1 and 3 good.
Lmao
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>>336340660
>Clear water
>Dirty ass mud everywhere
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Fuck at least we've got games to look forward to on console.

They say ps4 has no games but what has pc had in it's pipeline, what has it released all year even?
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>>336340409
I really don't know, guessing above average acting with mcu style dialogue is enough to impress people for the whole package.
i was watching this video of journalists playing a demo of it and they ran out of things to talk about in like the first 2 minutes, all they could point out is how pretty it was and the TECHNOLOGY moments. Sam dies.
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>>336340696
Uncharted 2 is almost universally known as the best game of the last console generation next to Demon's Souls

Go back and play your MOBAs you cuck
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>>336340710
Is that a make or break point for you?

Jesus Christ. Pedantic little faggots.
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>>336340660
The attention to detail in this game seems to be pretty great
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>>336340738
you're thinking of red dead
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>>336340409
Because I own a PS4 and want a game other than Bloodborne.
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>>336340738
mobas are more fun than aiming with your stick
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>>336340409
pcuck be mad cause the closest thing to uncharted that his PowerPoint point machine will ever play is: Unearthed: Trail of Ibn Battuta jajajajajaj
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>>336340738
I never said Uncharted 2 was bad? Can you read?
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>>336340757
>Is that a make or break point for you?
Tip of the iceberg sonyfriend
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>>336340409
Because you can make tons of money from just about any product so long as you heavily market it correctly. Also doesn't help that the average age of the audience that plays video games is younger than most and therefore have lower mental capacities.
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>>336340785
People who actually played Red Dead thought it was pretty forgettable outside of the storyline

>>336340832
Shit, well Uncharted 3 was slightly below Uncharted 2 but still enjoyable
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Because they have different taste from you. The worst thing that ever happened to /v/ is the hivemind mentality.
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>>336340831
>the closest thing to uncharted
Rise of the tomb raider
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>>336340905
Make like the Titanic and crash into it then, gay boy,
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im hyped>>336340431
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I like Uncharted because it doesn't half-ass its presentation. Games these days try to be cinematic but you get the sense they're just doing it out of laziness or to mask the lack of gameplay. Uncharted did it because they wanted their game to feel like a movie and went the extra mile (like having the voice actors motion capture during line readings, so the character body language would match the tone of the delivery) to make it genuine.
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>>336340972
No thx I'll just avoid your shitty game
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>>336340515
Hello redd t
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>>336341027
Leave the thread then.
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>>336340968
>feminism
cuckmate :^)
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>>336341026
Fucking this,

When I watched the easter egg crash footage I beccame fully immersed because the animation and voice acting was so real even despite the incredibly compressed raw footage, I was brought into the world because of the quality and effort that went into making the characters feel real.

I guess knowing thats just one part of the game when an entire adventure awaits outside of that little segment is also quite exciting.
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>>336341026
Didn't MGSV do this and completely fail? Because this game looks exactly like it without the climbing.
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>>336341073
>confirmed for not playing the game
>it has a woman so it's a feminist game
>muh SJWs

I'm the biggest MRA gamergator faggot in the world and you're embarrassing.
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I'll never understand the hate these games get.

These threads consistently boil down to "stop liking what I don't like"

The sad thing is you people get all rattled up over the normans playing their normie games.

Do you think they get upset cause y'all are over here playing handicapped dating sims? Course not.
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>Cuck
>Salt
>Feminism
So... This is the power... Of movie games... Woah...
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>>336341124
MGSV failed because there was hardly any story and what little that was there was shit and not what the MGS fans wanted

All Kojima had to do is give us the story between Peace Walker and Metal Gear 1 and we would've been happy, but ~muh vocal parasites and twist~

>>336341150
this. if you don't like them, shut the fuck and move on, I love being able to play 15+ hour indiana jones movies
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>>336341124
The problem with MGSV was the game outside of the cutscene wasn't as good as the cutscenes themselves, the game was really devoid of content
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>if you dont want to play a cinematic rehash call of indy shooter your a pcuck
well i guess my bloodbornestation is collecting more dust
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>>336341142
>implying
gamer gator go, and stay go!
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>>336341232
>I love being able to play 15+ hour indiana jones movies
Nigga even on hard the average Uncharted game only takes like 8 hours, you must be legit retarded to take that long. But then again what should I expect from the typical Uncharted fan?
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>>336341232
>>336341246
How do we know that Uncharted 4 has more content than MGSV or that the story isn't shit?
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No idea, I bought the second game which is one of my worst buyer's remorses. All you did was go through linear areas while hugging walls, taking potshots and then hidding until your health would regenerate and then do the same shit over again.
Then there'd be a bunch cutscenes with some of the most clichéd shit ever and occasionally a god awful puzzle.
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>>336341251
You know, for all the "cinematic" shit that this game gets, there's like an hour and a half of cinematics and 10+ hours of actual gameplay and the weapon handling in 3/4 are great so I don't see what's the problem

Do you not like action games? Do you not like shooters?
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I like them because the combat is extremely mobile compared to all other third person cover shooters. You don't have to use much at all if you're good and combat flows extremely well.

Also the set pieces are extremely well-made, very high production values.
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>>336340468
*tips deodorant*
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>>336341367
Because people literally have the game and they've said that it's longer than Uncharted 3 and Uncharted 3 was 13-17 hours long.

>>336341390
if Uncharted 2 was your biggest buyers remorse, you must not play that many games so in that case, you totally belong on this shit board
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>>336341251
>cinematic rehash call of indy shooter
>bloodbornestation

Using buzzwords won't help you hide your jealousy
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>>336340660
Nice, now I'm hyped too.
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>>336340409
I don't know, because people like to play good games probably.
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>>336341494
Is it really 13 hours long? That's less hours than MGSV and most other videogames this gen.
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>>336341494
>if Uncharted 2 was your biggest buyers remorse,
I typed "one of," not the biggest.
>you must not play that many games so in that case, you totally belong on this shit board
I've played plenty.
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>>336340937
>talking about forgettable when uncharted is on the table
MUH train
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>>336341549
what jealousy, if i said you where jealous of PC exclusives would you say yes?
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>>336341826
>PC
>exclusives

Now, you are baiting.
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>>336341396
Not when the "action" consists of entering an arena filled with waist high cover and killing 50 dudes with N64-tier AI with no variation of enemy types. Not when the "platforming" consists of making unmissable jumps and snapping to ledges like I'm playing Smash 4. Not when the level design is as open as a level of Audiosurf. Not when the shooting has little variation between guns, and there is literally no reason to use anything other than the M9 and the AK and maybe the Grenade Launcher here and there. Not when the game treats cutscenes like rewards for playing and scatters them when the story is the only thing not mediocre about this game.
I have only played Uncharted 1 (recently, I might add, since I just got my PS4 about two months ago), and if it is any indication of what the series is about, I'll gladly stay away from this pile of dogshit series, and I very much regret giving neo-Naughty Dog a fucking cent of my money.

Not the guy you were replying to by the way.
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>>336340409
>why are people excited about things i don't like

go to bed kid.
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>>336341872
??
>inb4 'le ive never heard of them = indie game'
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>>336342024
>if i inb4 it it invalidates the statement

no fuck you

>indie shit and table top shitty rpgs
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>>336341950
This I played uncharted 2 and it was the most overrated shit I have ever played why do people like cinematic experiences so much thank god I actually jumped onto demon souls after it.
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>>336342024
>all that indie games
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>>336342024
>superhot
>a game that's actually only 30 minutes long

Man PC gaming sure is amazing.

Xcom 2 is good, mount and blade is although bannerlord looks too samey Divinity is cool and that's about it.
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>>336341661
A packed 13 hours versus shit empty open world with 20 minutes of cinematics explaining the awful story

These things are totally comparable anon :^)
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>>336342117
>Uncharted fan suddenly has a problem with Indyshit
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>>336342024
A list with actual PC exclusive would be better and doable
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>>336342141
>>336342179
>Xcom 2
>Bannerlord
>Divinity
>Rising Storm
>Warhammer

This is not indieshit.
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>>336342117
>>336342179
>Le indie games are bad
Suck my dick you fucking casuals, Shovel Knight was the best game of 2014
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>>336342318
Bannerlord and Divinity are, the definition of Indie is Independent/No Publisher, not amateur bullshit.
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>>336342208
Witcher 3 has over a hundred hours of content with a huge open world packed with sidequests and a storyline filled with tons of characters how is that for comparison.
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>>336342458
this is a new level of shitpost.

Comparing action 3rd person shooter games to open world rpgs.

Next level shitpost.
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>>336342458
And how many other games are out there like The Witcher 3?

That game goes far above the average. Witcher 3 is 15/10, Uncharted 2 is 9/10
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Where the fuck did this "UNCHARTED IS LE MOVIE" circlejerk come from anyway? I could understand saying that for TLoU considering how much the game railroads you into walking into shit that the characters spout off about but most of Uncharted is pure gameplay with a cinematic soundtrack accompanying it
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>>336342531
But uncharted isn't a videogame it's a cinematic experience.
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>>336342603
From the fact that the gameplay is barebones and only exists to get you from setpiece to setpiece.
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>>336342024
>kingdom come deliverance
>PC exclusive

First class bait
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>>336340409
are there any no commentary full let'splays already?
I will just watch it as a movie on youtube like I always do with their games.
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>>336342350
>you don't like obscure indie shit so you are casual

What the fuck?
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>>336342724
>gameplay is barebones
Fucking explain this shit, Telltale gives me games where gameplay is barebones
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>>336342724
There's swimming, there's driving cars/sea vehicles, there's on ground climbing/parkour/swinging/combat with a combo system


If that's basic, certainly pretty much everything outside of cRPGs is too
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>>336342724
Confirmed never played uncharted 2 or 3
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>>336342024
>all that westaboo shit
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>>336341232
>MGSV failed
Well, know who the try hard faggot is.
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Remember when Naughty Dog actually made videogames.
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>>336343065
MGSV is universally disliked for the story and loved for the sandbox it provided

>>336343086
Yes, I do, because their next one comes out next week.
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>>336341661
>MGSV average playthrough time is 80 hours
>80 hours

Well, I mean... yeah.
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>>336343086
They don't make videogames? Just played TLOU, along with multiplayer it has couple times more content and replaybility than Jak.
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>>336342869
>>336342885
>Swimming
And? You do nothing while swimming.
>Driving cars
In a straight line towards the next setpiece/getting driven around while blowing up cars by shooting them with a pistol
>On ground... Parkour
Autoplatforming garbage
>Combat with a combo system
HAHA X + X + Triangle is such a deep combo system, eh? It's basically Bayonetta at this point.

>>336342981
No, I'm >>336341950 and for some reason I doubt it gets better in 2 and 3.
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>>336343125
>universally disliked
No, it's not.

If you are going by /v/ then fucking every game is "universally disliked". Lucky for the entire fucking world, /v/ is a contained shithole.
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>>336343197
But tlou is a movie anon.
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>>336343086
Man, Jak always had a great story, but the gameplay was there to back it up, too. What the fuck happened to Naughty Dog?
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>>336343241
What? How so?
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>>336340409
So PS4 fans can brag about having one and half games.
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>Le naughty dog movie games
>KUABARA METAL GEAR THREAD best game ever!
>Every metal gear games has 5 1/2 hours of cutscenes at least not including all the codec calls
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>>336343125
is it now.
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>>336343303
Unlike PCucks who still waiting for one game.
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>>336343226
Are you serious? All my normie friends were disappointed that MGSV revolved around vocal parasites rather than "Big Boss becoming an evil dictator"

The general consensus is that the story is severely lacking and the sandbox would have been great if the world had more than a couple outposts

It's clear you're going to argue with me even when I'm right so there's no point in discussing this.
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>>336343197
What do you even do on multiple playthroughs of TLoU?
>Oh, I somehow missed this item last time because I'm such a casual I can't be bothered to explore instead of crouchwalking from waist-high cover to waist-high cover shooting retarded enemies/knifing deaf clickers
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>>336343086
Yeah man, Jak 3 was great with it's vehicle driving, platforming and shooting, it's such a shame that Uncharted 4 isn't a game with it's vehicle driving, platforming and shooting
Hey wait a second, something doesn't add up here
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>>336343437
Do you only ever do anything in life once?
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>>336343437
To beat game on higher difficulties, collect all itmes?
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>>336343339
>critic reviews
Oh, you mean the ones where they played the game in front of Konami representatives and didn't even finish the game?

I would give the game a 10/10 too if I hadn't gotten through act 1 thinking there were 2 more on the way

Look at the user reviews, they're giving it an 8.2 because what's there that isn't the main story is good. Sure, it's good, but it should have and could have been a masterpiece if it weren't for Kojima and his ~ruse~ and poor budgeting

80 million dollar budget, on FUCKING WHAT
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>>336343421
>e even when I'm right
No, you're a faggot. That's all you are.
>but but but my friends said
Total proof right there. Whatever this faggot's friends think is the definitive source.

this is /v/, everyone.
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>>336343320
I've only played MGS3, and the gameplay of it isn't even comparable to the 'gameplay' of any ND game Post-Jak 3. I wouldn't expect an ND fanboy to understand actual stealth in a game with enemies that don't have 1999-tier AI.
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>>336343086
>tfw crash 1,2,3
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>>336343456
>Uncharted
>Platforming
I'm legit mad holy fucking shit 10/10 bait anon
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I don't get how you can call this game a movie when it has online multiplayer.
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>>336343605
>Actual stealth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le23bsVURds
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Do you guys think after this cinematic movie meme ends that they will give us another crash game? .
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>>336343740
No, it has cutscenes and it's PlayStation exclusive. It's movie, not a video game.
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>>336343740
>Wanting Neo-Naughty Dog to ever touch Crash or Jak again
They're better off dead.
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>>336343437
>he found all of items on his first playtrough

Oh anon, you are such a hardcore. Can I be cool as you?
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>>336341494
Wow, i like Uncharted 2, especially for it's stunning visuals back then that i didnt thought this shitpiece of a PS3 could shit out, but you are hella overexxagaratting.

I played the Beta Online Multiplayer for 4, and it wasnt really a technical epitome of gaming or anything. Just another Cover Shooter, you're gonna eat up, with mildly better graphics than other games releasing on the same platform.

Get a grip, kid
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It's a fucking shame Sony took down some guy's leaked footage of chapter 12 showing off an entire section of being able to fully explore a group of islands with the boat, allowing you to dive into the water to search for treasures and leads into some good platforming that actually uses the grappling hook for puzzles
It shows off some really good game design but Sony would rather just advertise the set pieces, which removes tons of the impact they have when you play them
At least the Madagascar gameplay showed off the open linearity of being able to climb a tower to snipe from without the game requiring you climb it
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You haven't forgotten about me have you?
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I can't wait for shitstorm when U4 will get over 90 scores on metacritic and constant screaming how scores don't matter again.
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>>336343984
Best crash game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAXQt7TrjoY
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>>336343875
The only way to miss items in TLoU is if you're Naughty Dog's target audience: people that don't actually like video games so they just let the game railroad them to the next cutscene. The exploration options are so limited I'm amazed you people didn't find most of the items by accident.
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I saw an e-celeb play like a half an hour of it and it looks pretty fuckin' neato

I enjoyed the Uncharted trilogy, but I wouldn't say I'm a big fan.

However, when I saw that stealth was given a larger focus, and the openness of the world, I started getting hyped for U4.

The previous games are fun in their own right, but the bullet sponge enemies coupled with Drake's fragility make the combat segments tiring at times.
It also makes it a "stop and pop" situation, or whatever the devs called it.

So I'm down for mixing it up and letting me get the drop on enemies and even do an entire combat segment with just stealth.
Sounds fun as fuck.

>>336343740
/v/ is the only one perpetuating the movie meme.

Uncharted has a gameplay-cutscene ratio on par with the Jak games and nobody calls those movies.

>>336343982
Honestly I would have liked to have reached that part of the game and not seen it coming.

We all know there will be setpieces. It's Uncharted. Keeping the new and interesting stuff for the full game is fine by me.
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>>336344038
I can't wait to see /v/ collectively shit itself when Uncharted 4 takes home GOTY awards
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>>336343982
Don't worry, one week left to bombard smelly PC fats with webms of TECHNOLOGY
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>>336344058
This what I'm talking about, not every person is such a hardcure as you. I bet you also finished highest difficulty setting without upgrades and dying jerking off to Ellie with other hand.
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>>336343875
>being a collecting literal autist
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Where did naughty dog go so wrong why did they become so generic?
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>>336344073
>Uncharted has a gameplay-cutscene ratio on par with the Jak games and nobody calls those movies.
Because the gameplay is deeper than a puddle in the Jak games, there is real platforming, real challenge, great level design. You aren't given a straight fucking path to walk towards the next set piece, you're dropped into a world that you can explore to any depth you like because there IS a world to explore and there ARE well-hidden secrets to find. And no, the obligatory item "hidden" in the corner of an enemy arena isn't a well-hidden secret.
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>>336344251
Fuck my arse and call me a salty pc fat I can't wait to play this multi player all day. TLOU also had a GOAT online too.
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>>336344354
>Because the gameplay is deeper than a puddle in the Jak games
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>>336344321
lmao Crash Bandicoot was literally panned back in the day as being a generic platformer clone of Donkey Kong Country (except with 3D bits)

only saving grace was good graphics

nothing has changed except their games were a bit more interactive then
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Falseflagging and ironic shitposting, mostly
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>>336344354
>I don't like gameplay so it's movie.
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>>336344321
Mature games for mature gamers
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>>336344424
>Implying any Jak game isn't a million times deeper than any of the Uncharted movies
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>>336344525
>>336344424
>>336344354

>Fruits caring about deepness in video games.
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>>336344354
>the gameplay is deeper than a puddle in the Jak games
Nigga you and I both know that Jak is as deep as a wooden board.

Run and jump.
In Jak II and 3, run and jump and shoot.

>a straight fucking path
Like Crash? :^)

>Uncharted doesn't have real platforming
>Uncharted doesn't have great (or at least good) level design
>Uncharted doesn't have real challenge
I mean first of all you would do well to actually define "real platforming" and "real challenge."
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>>336344525
>implying any Uncharted game isn't a million times deeper than any of the Jak movies
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What happened?
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>>336344354
Dude, Jak don't even have multiplayer. Either never played those games or baiting.
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>>336344321
Is this post supposed to be ironic? Crash Bandicoot itself was generic when you consider the typical design of a platformer in the 90s
Yeah it was one of the first in the era of 3D, but the codename for Crash's 3D was "Sonic's Ass" as it was designed to play like a 2D platformer but from the perspective of being behind the character
Naughty Dog has been copying others for years, like turning J&D from a Banjo Kazooie styled platformer to a fucking GTA clone for sales, the biggest example being Way of the Warrior, a blatant clone of Mortal Kombat
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>>336344462
There should never have been any point where a game becomes less interective than Crash 1. Video games are, by definition, interactive.

>>336344321
The reason ND became generic is because all of its employees are film school washouts, thirsty for validation. It's easier to get an award for a video game than it is for a movie.
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>>336344642
instead of rehashing games for infinity they decided to make new IP's from time to time. This is what happaned.
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Do you think naughty dog will get the rights back and make crash great again instead of this movie meme?
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>>336344894
Apparently the Crash easter egg might confirm Sony getting Crash's rights back but Kike boy Druckmann and his hipster team had basically said they were too mature to make platformers
Until people told them to go fuck themselves and then damage controlled saying "W-W-WELL WE MIGHT DO ANOTHER AT SOME POINT"
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>>336340937
No, everyone I know who played it considers it an amazing game. Even the multiplayer was great
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Naughty Dog branched out from mascot platformers and I think it was a good thing which allowed them to grow as a studio and expand their skillset especially since the genre itself began to die shortly after. I think now is an excellent time for them to return to the genre especially after the huge success of ratchet and considering the hints Sony has dropping and the easter egg in U4 that just might become a reality.

I mean look at what happened with Insomniac who stuck with Ratchet for as long as they did, what else do they really know how to do now?

Either way, Uncharted 4 looks incredible and it seems they're putting everything they've learned and the skills they've acquired over the years into a single game and it's going to be great.

Here's hoping to a Crash reveal at E3, it'll steal the show. I'm hyped for U4 and I am optimistic about ND's future.
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>>336340937
>Red dead forgettable
LOL!
that multiplayer was GOAT
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>>336343205
Wow I can post the same autism
>platforming
Basically press one button to move forward
>attacking enemies
X wow, so depth

Here I described Jak and Dexter and Crash.
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>>336344570
>Run and jump and shoot
And it's done better than any of the gameplay in U1, since the platforming asks more of the player than "Can you point the analog stick in the direction you want to go?"

Crash had obstacles that impeded your progress. Oh, Uncharted does, too, in the form of waves of the same grunts (With the same level of AI as a Crash 1 enemy, too!) with guns in an arena filled with waist-high cover.

>Define real platforming
I'll tell you what it's not. It's not making jumps that are only possible to fuck up if you're trying to fuck them up. It's not snapping to ledges like they're made of magnets. Platforming in Crash, Jak, and Banjo is real platforming, stuff that assumes that you've played a fucking video game before and doesn't make it impossible for you to fuck up a few times. They don't have the story as the focal point of their games, so they aren't in a hurry for you to get to the next cutscene, they want you to get good at the gameplay.
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>>336345013
If the majority of people wanted less serious games, they'd make them.

You are in a minority and your grievances are ignored because you're chump change to these developers.
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>>336345365
Go ahead and play Crash and Jak that way, you won't make it past Level 1.
Meanwhile you can literally 100% Uncharted with this method.
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Because its one of the few AAA games that actually looks and feels like a high budget game. The animations and attention to detail really make the game. Also it's fun.
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>>336345486
And it will be forgotten like the other Uncharted games.
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>>336340409
>Thief's
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>>336345463
>since the platforming asks more of the player than "Can you point the analog stick in the direction you want to go?"
Let me break down the platforming in Jak and Uncharted for you.

In Jak, you point the left analog stick in the direction you want to go, and press X to instigate an action (jumping) to reach your destination.

In Uncharted, you press the analog stick in the direction you want to go, and press X to instigate and action (usually jumping) to reach your destination.

>Crash had obstacles that impeded your progress. Oh, Uncharted does, too
Good. That's all there is to it.

>It's not making jumps that are only possible to fuck up if you're trying to fuck them up.
So Super Mario Bros. 1-1 is not real platforming.

See, I was under the impression that platforming involved maneuvering the player character between platforms.

But I see I was incorrect. How could I have been so naïve?

>They don't have the story as the focal point of their games, so they aren't in a hurry for you to get to the next cutscene, they want you to get good at the gameplay.
I honestly have to ask if you have ever in your life once played an Uncharted game.

Your memes are too hot. The game you're describing is something akin to The Order 1886, not Uncharted. Not anything that Naughty Dog has ever produced.

>>336345863
English isn't your first language, huh.
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>>336345569
I did and finished whole game like this. Now try to play Uncharted like thisand you won't make past first area.
>>336345817
>Uncharted games
>forgotten
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>>336345817
Clearly they're fresh in your mind and the minds of all pc fats since the slightest hint of uncharted and you're all over it like flies on shit.

What games do you like that are 'remembered'?
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>Uncharted will drop next week
>It will be loved
>It'll be praised
>It'll win awards
>It'll sell millions
>ND will be held up as geniuses
>PC fats can do nothing to stop this

That's good enough for me.
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>>336346125
Bloodborne
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>>336342024
im a virgin and like a couple of them

ill support mandingo
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>>336345948
>In Jak, you point the left analog stick in the direction you want to go, and press X to instigate an action (jumping) to reach your destination.
And it's done well
>In Uncharted, you press the analog stick in the direction you want to go, and press X to instigate and action (usually jumping) to reach your destination.
And it's done poorly
>>Crash had obstacles that impeded your progress. Oh, Uncharted does, too
>Good. That's all there is to it.
Oh, no, you missed the part of my post where I pointed out the fact that the obstacles in Uncharted are terrible. See, throwing 50 dudes at you with Atari-level AI isn't a very good obstacle, as it provides little challenge and it happens so often with such little variation, you can see an area filled with waist high cover and instantly know that they're going to spawn a million enemies in there.
>>It's not making jumps that are only possible to fuck up if you're trying to fuck them up.
>So Super Mario Bros. 1-1 is not real platforming.
Super Mario Bros. 1-1 is not GOOD platforming, no, it's the tutorial level. Meanwhile all of Uncharted 1 is unmissable jumps that are designed with casuals such as yourself in mind, people that don't play video games and as such will stop playing a game if they don't make a jump on their first or second try.
>See, I was under the impression that platforming involved maneuvering the player character between platforms.
Oh, it does, but for some reason you're assuming that as long as a game HAS platforming it's good and you aren't looking at the quality of the platforming itself.
>But I see I was incorrect. How could I have been so naïve?
You are a modern Naughty Dog fan, after all.
>I honestly have to ask if you have ever in your life once played an Uncharted game.
Yep, pic related, blew 40 dollars on this shit when I could have seen an actual movie for 7.
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>>336346941
>And it's done poorly
Nobody EVER mentioned quality you fucking shitposter.

Literally all of this started over Uncharted's meme status as a movie.

So when proven fucking wrong, naturally you have to go
>B-but it's bad!
Because somehow that's a defense for the original standpoint.

Fuck you, I'm not even bothering with the rest of your post.
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>>336346941
I'm not the person you arguing with but whole your post is:
>Platforming in Jak is done well because... done well
>Platforming in Uncharted is done poorly because... done poorly
>Uncharted is terrible because... terrible
That's not how argumentation work

>complain about Uncharted AI while praising that one of Jak

That was my favorite part
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>>336346941
see >>336344487

If I don't like gameplay of Jak and prefer Uncharted opposite to you that makes Jak and Dextrer movie?
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>bloodborne
>ratchet & clank
>uncharted 4
>psvr

Holy shit everyone else btfo, once ps4.5 releases will there be any reason to own a pc?
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>>336346215
Feels goodman
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>>336347279
Stay angry, my friend, either Uncrated is a movie game or just a plain bad one, either way, it's shit.

>>336347374
I can see how you missed every point I made, modern ND fan, reading is for nerds, like video games!
Also I never praised J&D's online

>>336347448
I never said it's a movie because I don't like it, it's a movie because it puts it forgoes gameplay for storytelling.
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>>336347712
>online
AI, my bad
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>>336347712
You praised Crash and Mario though. Whole your autistic argument is "platforming is bad in Uncharted because!" I can use the same for every action game.
>because it puts it forgoes gameplay for storytelling.
Game has more gameplay than cutscenes and storytelling plus multiplayer. Objectively wrong.
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>>336340710
and isn't hard to make a depth layer to the water to make a mud effect
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>>336347712
>Either it's a meme, or my opinion!
I'd rather it be your opinion.

>modern ND fan
I loathe the smell of hipster in the morning

>it forgoes gameplay for storytelling
How? If you could actually expound upon this we could have a real discussion here rather than "JAK GOOD DRAKE BAD"

Because, and I only played these games on the Collection a few months ago, Uncharted does not skimp on the gameplay at all.
In fact I enjoyed the gameplay more than the story except for Drake's pitiful HP.
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>>336348023
I got similar discussion with similar autist who called TLOU movie. After proven wrong he went to "it's movie because I don't like gameplay, so gameplay is bad so it don't exist" exactly like him. He's just shitposting, don't bother.
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>>336340409
Whoa, buddy. You posted this on the wrong board. Lemme help you out.
>>>/tv/
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>>336348270
But tlou is a movie
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>>336348339
You are movie but at least I never said this to you until now.
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>>336342206
that's are 20 replay minutes more than uncharted 4
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>>336348536
>that's are

PCucks
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>>336342430
Then is funny how indie develop make better content and quality than a AAA company like Naughty Dog
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>>336340409
Name one other game that married animation and presentation as well as this to make you feel like you're playing a movie.
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>>336347913
No, my whole argument was "Platforming in Uncharted is bad because (reason), (fact), (reason), and (reason)" but you're so mad someone is talking shit about muh Naughty Dog, saviors of the industry, that you aren't reading my posts.
>But it has more gameplay than cutscenes
And the gameplay is not very good, we've been over this.

>>336348023
>Calling me a hipster for calling something popular bad
So, you like every CoD, Mario, and Halo game, right? Because if you don't think every new entry in these three franchises is great, you are a hipster.
>Could you actually expand upon this?
Oh, what, like I did here? >>336341950 or here? >>336343205 or here? >>336343437 or here? >>336344058 or here? >>336344354 or here? >>336345463 or here? >>336346941
Go ahead and tell me why none of these complaints are valid, why I'm just memeing, why Naughty Dog will cure cancer, yadda yadda yadda
This whole conversation reminds me of those NeoGAF posts saying shit like Skyrim is the best thing to have ever existed.

>>336348270
I'm sure that's exactly what happened and you are not skewing events to your benefit.
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>>336348270
If tlou isn't a movie then why is Ellen Page in it and why is she a lesbo?
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>>336348596
>make better content and quality than a AAA company like Naughty Dog

Name better rated indie shit than Naughty Dog games.
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>>336340409
I'm slightly hyped.

Haven't finished 3 yet though and probably won't because it sucked.
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>>336348584
No I'm spanish sorry but i have both systems and superhot looks more funny than uncharted 4.
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>>336348731
Undertale :^)
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I played U4 beta (The MP was the only good part of the last 2 games), and it just wasn't as fun as U2 or even U3's multiplayer. It seemed uninspired, especially the map design, and the lasso isnt as fun as just climbing around the map.
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>>336348731
Undertale
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>>336340409
they fell for the shills
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>>336348731
>Divinity
More gameplay, AI isn't stupid like TLOU (they promise me that this was fixed on remastered but nothing :( and some people still believe is the best game of the world)
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>>336348739
Its better than 2 though
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>>336348848
Couldn't disagree more
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>>336348731
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/shovel-knight

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/uncharted-the-nathan-drake-collection
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>>336348841
>thinking gameplay is the only thing that matters in a modern game
A good game is more than just gameplay, when will you idjits realize this?
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>>336348664
No, you never mentioned reason just said it's bad
>And the gameplay is not very good, we've been over this.
[citation needed] Unless we are talking about your shitty personal opinion here, but I still don't know how is this fact. Even if gameplay was shitty this is not what make game a movie. Notice how nobody call Uncharted movie other than few autists like you here on /v/. This pretty much sums it all.
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>>336340409
Uncharted is fun. It's extremely linear and it practically plays itself a lot of the time but it's still very fun. Also I'm invested in the characters and want to see how their story ends.
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>>336348810
>>336348774
>even undertale, the shallowest and most overrated of all RPGs ive played has better score than the saviour of PS4
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>>336341950
>I have only played Uncharted 1
there's your problem m8

the only good games are Uncharted 2 and Uncharted 3. UC1 was more like a tech demo. It was tedious and broken at higher difficulties. UC2 is basically twice the game UC1 is
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>>336348774
>>336348810
>>336348841
Worse scores than The Last of Us. Argument discarded.
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>>336348930
I agree, that's why ND should have stuck with making games with both good gameplay and story, like Jak and Daxter, instead of hiring Speilburg wannabes to make their games
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>>336348930
Go to >>>/tv/ if that's what you think.
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>>336348930
how is it a good GAME if the GAMEplay isn't good
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>>336348841
I played Divinity, gameplay is really shitty and casual. It's more movie than a game.
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>>336348664
>Calling me a hipster for calling something popular bad
No, I'm calling you a hipster because "new ND is bad" and "I liked ND when they were good"

It has nothing to do with popularity, you cock.

>every new entry in these franchises
Shame that Uncharted is not part of the Crash Bandicoot franchise or you might have had a point.

>Oh, what, like I did here?
You mean those posts that weren't replies to me? I mean of course I was going to read those.
Fucking hell m8, two of them AREN'T EVEN ABOUT UNCHARTED

You mean the posts that were replies to me, where you made unsubstantiated criticisms?
Yeah that's what I'm saying, you need to expand on your position.
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>>336349027
The last of us is a movie not a videogame.
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>>336348916
>a remaster collection is representative of a game's quality

Alright then, I suppose Silent Hill 2/3 are shit then.
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>>336348667
If Super Mario Bros the movie isn't the movie why it has Mario in it?
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>>336349026
I'll give U2 a chance if that's your genuine opinion, but I really fucking do not want to finish U1. I can't stand another fucking waist-high cover-filled arena.
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>>336348904
2 is very standard. Its not bad.

3 has the amazing bar scene, flashbacks, that titanic shit, the plane scene. Its so fucking good.
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>>336349163
So does your indie shit then
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>>336349254
There are no cinematic cutscenes in Undertale.
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>>336349254
I wonder why the "Pillars of Eternity is a movie" meme didn't take off when the "Uncharted is a movie" meme did, then? :^)
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>>336340660

WOW YOU GET TO MOVE A ROPE FROM POINT A TO POINT B WHEN PROMPTED AND YOU WILL NEVER DO THIS AGAIN IN THE ENTIRE GAME. I'M SO FUCKING HYPED FOR THIS HOLY SHIT TAKE MY MONEY AND USE MY BOY HOLES
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>>336349340
they are plenty, and gameplay isn't very good. They put story above gameplay by making it movie.
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>>336349375
I don't know why the fuck I said PoE I meant Divinity
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>>336349392
boy's soul*
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>>336349027
And do you think that Naughty Dog or sony haven't pay for that scores?
Well if you want discard games by score than PS4 just have: Bloodborne.
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>>336349375
Because not every person is desperate PC shitposter who have to resort to memes.
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>>336349174
Please tell me what problems the Uncharted remasters have that you'd be dumb enough to put it on the same level as the worst HD collection made.
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>>336349163

the last of us is everything wrong with the western gaming industry in one "game"
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>>336349441
You could not be any madder
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>>336349204
>but I really fucking do not want to finish U1
dont then. I love the series but I played U2 and U3 first, then I tried U1 and got pissed off at some fight in it halfway through and quit.
Since then I've replayed U2 and U3 again but still never bothered to go back to finish U1
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>>336349075
>>336349089
Because GAMEPLAY is only a part of what makes up the final product. It's like saying a book is the best in the world because it is grammatically correct. And the gameplay IS good. Yiu can argue that it isn't great, but it doesn't have to be, because all the parts of the whole are "good", which is enough to elevate the entire thing to "great." Some games have game plays that are "great," but they also suffer in other areas that prevents the entire thing as a whole from being great.
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>>336349486
>got btfo
>scores don't matter now, t-they were paid!

PCuck spotted
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>>336349529
Alright, anon, I'll give U2 a shot tonight/tomorrow when I'm off work.
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>>336349441
What the fuck are you even talking about Undertale is a videogame. TLOU is a movie with paid actors like Ellen Page.
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>>336349524
It's not me who call video game a movie
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>>336349503
I'm just saying compare the actual fucking releases to Shovel Knight instead of comparing Shovel Knight to a remaster collection.

>>336349204
I am a huge fan of the Uncharted series, and Uncharted 1 SUCKS BALLS. It's a wave shooter with a story behind it, the others are NOTHING like it.
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>>336349653
>What the fuck are you even talking about TLOU is a videogame. Undertale is a movie with paid memes
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>>336349126
I've played Dragon Commander and doesn't just have cinematics when i choose the mision.
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>>336349658
https://youtu.be/s94VB0dEfC0
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>>336349590

But you're wrong because gameplay is literally the most important part of the game. It's what makes the game a fucking game.

You can have a good game with no story or context as long as you have good gameplay.

You cannot have a good game with an excellent story and shitty gameplay. The closest you can get to that is Deadly Premonition but then everyone agrees that the gameplay sucks ass and that it's not a good game.
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>>336349592
>Caring about scores
>Just bloodborne IS the good score game of the platform
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>>336349768
Rayman 3 was so good
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>>336349864
>post Piss Sea games scores trying to defend scores argument
>got btfo
>w-why do you get about scores ;_;
>best rated PC game can be playable on tablet
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>>336349867
Better than Uncharted yeah
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If Uncharted isn't a movie then why does it have Nathan Fillion? checkmate retards.
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Uncharted 2 was seriously the only game I've enjoyed from the series.

The first one obviously had to start somewhere so the repetitivy was to be expected
but the third one tried too hard, maybe not even enough
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>>336349590
>Some games have game plays that are "great," but they also suffer in other areas that prevents the entire thing as a whole from being great.
Name fucking one.
Great gameplay would only be hindered by other elements if they're a direct hindrance to gameplay. Something like constant, unskippable cutscenes.
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>>336350038
I wasn't even part of your conversation, stop being so mad
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>>336349860
That was true in the past when limitations prevented us from marrying the two. But in the modern age, you can't expect to still slide with just good mechanics. If so, then what's even the point of all the tech advances we made throughout the years? As video games draw ever closer to "art", we have to realize that they are so much more than just clicking things and watching things happen. They are intricately designed experiences that offers a take on narratives that movies and books cannot. To say that only the gameplay matters is to hold back the very evolution of the medium.
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>>336350164
Oh, you're baiting.
Well, 9/10. You got me.
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>>336350154
Nobody is mad I'm just saying Rayman 3 is a better game than Uncharted
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>>336350030
>Still better game than ps4 catalogue
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>>336350279
If you go through life calling every dissenting opinion a bait, then you must lead a very sheltered life.
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>>336350319
source?
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>TLOU was a movie meme
Fuck off, TLOU was no more of a movie than RE4 was
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>>336340937
>likes uncharted 3
>doesn't like red dead

No you have the shit taste senpai. Uncharted 2 is the only good one.
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>>336350346
>Pixelated meme game that looks like from Atari
>better
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>>336350347
I'll give you another (You) for your efforts. You've earned it.
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I played through Uncharted 3 this weekend and really liked it. I am excited for Uncharted 4.
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>>336350125
I'll use Ninja Gaiden as an example. The gameplay was great, and the graphics were good, but the central narrative and the execution of the story was weak. If we were to judge the game based only on its gameplay, then it would be great, but we have to judge it as a whole, with its flaws bringing the whole thing down a few notches.
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>>336350125
From what I've heard, Max Payne 3 has that.
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>>336350164

The ironic part of your post is that the only games in our modern era that get called art are ones with very limited exposition and little to no dialogue (i.e. shadows of colossus, journey)

If you find yourself playing a game for the story and couldn't care less about the gameplay OR even more telling, you find the gameplay is actually annoying and getting in the way of the story, then you have a shitty game on your hands that would have been better suited as a movie or novel or cartoon, pretty much anything other than a game.
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>>336350431
>RE4
>Movie
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