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Can Guilty Gear save fighting games or did SF5 ruin it for everyone?
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Can Guilty Gear save fighting games or did SF5 ruin it for everyone?
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Not without Baiken it can't
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>>336325051
>RC slow down
>YRC
>Danger time
>SF babies can't even handle Xrd or even BB

No
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>>336325252
>SF babies can't even handle Xrd or even BB

That's why they created Kum. 4 hit combos. retard proof oki multiple invincible dps
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No one likes Guilty Garbage.
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Kinda sad GG is not that popular, it's such a fun game. But I guess some genres and games are always will be niche.
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>>336325051
Isn't the playerbase for GG pretty small?
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>>336326479
Can't speak for Steam, but on PSN it's still pretty active.
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Revelator for PC when?
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>>336325051
>Can Guilty Gear save fighting games
Doesn't need saving

or did SF5 ruin it for everyone?
SFV only ruined SF.
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>>336325051
jack os butt can
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>>336326995
her butt can do many things but it cant perform miracles
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>>336327130
it can get me to buy this game so thats good enough.
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>>336326989
Xrd can't even beat SFIV in arcades

>>336326556
It's dead as fuck unless it's prime time
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>>336327357
SF is meme game, GG is niche anime game.
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>>336325051
I don't know how people can complain about SFV's business model when they have to buy a new copy of Xrd because ASW won't digitally update it
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Street Fighter is to fighting games as Final Fantasy is to JRPGs. As long as it's doing bad, everything else in the genre is gonna do worse.
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>>336327394
GG is pretty meme. A whole lot of dickriding with no players, top players in Xrd getting memed by randoms online on SF after saying it's ez, Combofiend memeing to Top 8 when he vocally expressed he barely touches the game, top GG players maiming SF for nearly a decade now, etc.
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>>336327831
>GG is pretty meme
It was. Before ASW skipped whole gen without GG game. I still hope it'll get more popular eventually once most of the old cast will be back.
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>>336325051
Man I love this boxart. At first I thought it was a placeholder, but I'm so glad it wasn't. Despite Sign having Daisuke artwork on the cover as well, it was more of something you'd expect the cover to look, but they said fuck it and let the man do whatever he wants without standard conventions. Definitely going to get a physical copy of it.
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>>336327831
What top 8 had Combofiend? I never even knew he touched Guilty gear, let alone make it to the top 8 of anything not street fighter
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>>336328587
>want demo
>need to go digital
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Only UNIEL PC release can.
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>>336330618
You can cancel preorder later, senpai.
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>>336330775
>mfw getting to fuck up noobs as jewpuncher when it finally comes out
Just picture some smug ass anime babe here, I dont have any pics right now.
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>>336330386
Evo top 8 for I believe #R and top 8 in Xrd at NCR or SCR.
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https://youtu.be/TfW197MuLtg?t=490

Kum gives zero fucks
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>>336331406
>tfw Kum instead of Kliff
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>>336331645
dead people aren't allowed
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>>336331645
what about zato-1

check

mate
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>>336332423
Oh really?
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Raven looks fucking awesome. Now that's a proper GG character, not some fucking SF pandering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS5QBEb4Nkk
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>>336332803
>that raven theme
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Is slayer getting buffed in revelator?
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>>336333149
There won't be any balance changes before EVO. I guess we can expect balance patch around this fall.
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EU edition looks sick, but you gays are being really sad with the forced SF rivalry

I wish we could just have a new fighting game where the threads aren't just shitting on other games

>>336333149
I don't think there are any balance changes
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>>336333149
Maybe, Revelator isn't getting a balance patch just yet. It'll for sure happen sometime after Evo so it's pretty nice that right now outside of the few new system mechanics you'll be able to keep everything you practice. And that's not even mentioning the demo. Honestly I hope they don't change the balance too much cause I'm actually quite happy with how it is now, but a few tweaks to the characters will be fine and this is coming from a Slayer main.
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>>336333325
Fighting games need to change to stay fresh though.
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>>336325051
That's a pretty cool cover. But I'm hoping that ArcSys moves to a SF5 kind of model where they sell the base game and update for free while making their money from characters and cosmetics. I don't wanna pay for another ArcSys update when Capcom is doing things the way I've always wanted them to be done. I don't even have SF5. The game could suck for all I know. But for someone that just wants to play online with their main, that setup is killer.
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>>336333567
>SF
>made by Capcom, quite a big company
>with Sony's support
>very popular even among normies since it basically an origin of fighting games

>GG
>niche anime fighter
>made by small studio

I fucking wonder why ASW can't afford cheap updates.
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>>336333753
Honestly it's not my problem.
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How does Xrd perform on PS3? I don't see myself getting a PS4 for some time.
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>>336333415
Yes I agree and that change is still coming, just not at launch which is good because now the Japanese isn't going to have the new version where they are months ahead of everyone else cause arcades are dead everywhere else. It's a way to actually give everyone else a chance tournament scene wise. Anyway though it is important for it to change, only real reason I said that was hoping that the balance doesn't become worse than it is. As well as personally I'm stubborn and I'm just too used to the game as is and it's going to suck for me to relearn a lot of things if it is a major change for all the characters. Very hollow complaint I'm aware, but I know that's just the way things are and how they should go.
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>>336333567
You mean the model that requires a massive casual audience and is already failing for capcom because now they have a game with zero casuals and the committed players are getting every character for free?
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>>336333882
Absoulutely fine and looks good too. EVO2015 used PS3 for Xrd.
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>>336333948
Yeah that one.
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>>336325051
Lol, it looks gay. Why dont you play a real fighting game like Mortal Kombat XL?
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>>336333567
I'd at least take getting an online update at a discount price

>>336333753
It doesn't change that both models are profitable no mater what the size of the company is. Being a big company means you actually need/want to make more money off it so it isn't easier for a big company

>>336333948
>is already failing
The model is failing, when they aren't even selling anything for real money yet so we have no idea how it will do? I get it is cool to hate capcom but be reasonable
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>>336334084
PC users already have 1.6 million fight money from capcom fucking up with survival mode so badly and they have no way to stop them.
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>>336333882
It plays absolutely fine.

The actual models and textures are a bit more jaggy, and some stage backgrounds aren't as animated as they are on PS4, but no problems otherwise.
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Good riddance. Its a shit game that tries too hard. The only good thing about it is the music
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>>336334232
You have no idea how the system works or anything really. There is free and premium content, when the premium stuff comes out it will only be purchasable with real money. PC users are only a small fraction of the playerbase with only a small amount of them cheating survival mode

You are talking a lot of bollocks
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>>336334232
>1.6 million fight money
How much characters cost?
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>>336334416
100k each
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>>336334416
100 000 fight money or 600 Zenny (6 dollars).
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>>336334416
100k. And add to the fact that as long as the Real money system isn't implemented, all the new characters are free so people are getting even more fight money with them. So pretty much FUCKING LMAO
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>>336334392
>Over 150k players are a small fraction of the playerbase
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>>336333215
fortunately it's just /v/. nobody anywhere else gives a fuck, but cynical preteens on /v/ have to be edgy and start shit with people.
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>>336334848
Compare to the 670k+whatever digital sales on console? yes
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>>336334953
You know that's including the PC sales right?
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>>336334949
It's sad because I love both games but people force some stupid rivalry. The idea you can play multiple fighting games and enjoy yourself seems alien to them
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>>336325424
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>>336335014
no it doesn't
http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/69/playstation-4/
>Platform: PlayStation 4

And even if it did and that number included digital console sales which it doesn't, that would be 520k v 150k. Console is still significantly more

Now stop talking about shit you don't know and let this be a gg thread
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>>336335201
>Using vgchartz as an iron clad source
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>>336333567
SFV on launch had less characters than the Revelator demo. somehow that pisses me off more than paying full price for an updated rerelease
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>>336335201
>he still doesn't know about the vgchartz
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>>336335419
>>336335568
If you can present more accurate up to date numbers be my guest, but it really looks like you are out of any arguments

>>336335497
You have to preorder the digital edition for the demo so it isn't like it is an amazing deal. Plus revalator is the update, dam straight it should have more
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>>336335651
But the numbers you brought up were completely fictional.
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>>336335704
Nope and the ones you presented don't exist, as you are still yet to produce any up to date numbers for the console sales
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>>336335816
>>336335651
Don't have any sales numbers on me as I've never paid enough attention to look them up, but vgchartz doesn't cite their sources, among other things, making it unreliable to use for any raw data.
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>>336336329
vgchartz uses the sources they manage to get

in this case they used the sales numbers the devs themselves released, which included PC
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>>336336329
>Don't have any sales numbers
So you have nothing, meaning that while vgchartz isn't the best it is the most accurate we have no mater how many anime faces get posted

You can't claim anything as you have nothing to back yourself up with
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>>336336490
They don't update console hardware sales statistics to represent those what Microsoft and Sony have reported.

>>336336532
I wasn't even arguing towards the other anon's point, just bringing up that vgchartz isn't reliable.
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>>336336532
we actually have accurate (or at least with a stated grade of deviation) steam sales numbers though

by your logic since vgchartz is no longer the most accurate we should ignore it
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>>336325424
>she still broken as fuck
wew lad time for more KI
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>>336325051
What is there to save? Guilty Gear is its own thing and so is Street Fighter. People will be playing the one they enjoy. That goes for people who dislike both and prefer SFIV or those that only play poverty fighters like melty blood or jewpuncher.
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>>336336613
And I'm pointing out unless you have more accurate data for consoles sales they are the best we have to work off

>>336336638
Still haven't found shit to support that console sales were much less then?

>by your logic since vgchartz is no longer the most accurate we should ignore it
Man if you tried as hard to find numbers as you do to twist you'd have them by now. Vgchartz is the most accurate up to date consoles sales we have thus it is what we have to work off

You were wrong
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>>336336658
>broken
The fuck are you talking about? It was entirely Faust's faults and he even won that match in the end.
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>>336336974
>Still haven't found shit to support that console sales were much less then?

I'm not the other guy. Just calling out your fallacy. PC likely sold slightly less.
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>>336334949
>fortunately it's just /v/
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Raven looks way goofier than how I imagined him.
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Dizzy will save fighting games.
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>>336332532
Zato isn't dead famalamb.
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>>336337679
I can't wait to piss people off with three different projectiles at once
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>>336337731
He was dead though, kazokunii.
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>>336325051
You realize that this game is already 3 years old? If it didn't already save it then it never will.
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>Shitty waifu pandering characters being added only
Yeah, naw.
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>>336337626
Gameplay wise I think he looks alright. Not amazingly fun, but he might be interesting enough for me to consider subbing him.

>>336337679
>>336337804
She's bound to be the toppest of top tier.
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>>336337149

Forgot how Jiyuna used to be really fat
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>>336337731
how did he come back to life anyway? The lack of battles in story mode keeps deterring me from going through it
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>>336325051
>Can Guilty Gear save fighting games

Can it hell. The European publishing alone renders that impossible to even attempt realistically, it just has to be successful in the states and we all know that is not going to happen.

Tekken 7 has better chances of being not just more successful but a better game in general.
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>>336337896
Gamma Ray better have some 360 camera rotation if you land the weak lasers
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>>336337895

You say this when it was already waifu pandering, and trap faggot pandering to boot.

Regardless, people who complain about how the series isn't hardcore anymore because of the new characters are as bad as the people who only circle jerk because of the characters and lore. At the end of the day, of you don't play the game to a competent degree and promote a scene by attending casuals, your opinion won't mean anything.
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>>336337934
He was resurrected.
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>>336338039
and here I assumed I-No just grabbed him from the past or something. Who by?
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>>336337965

Europe has been the prime target of Revelator recently since EU got a legit publisher now. Pretty much an apology with what happened with Sign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS5QBEb4Nkk
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>>336337965
>tekken
Nah.
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>>336338072
Illuminati aka Conclave. Resurrection magic itself might be developed by Faust.
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>>336337965

Only Koreans and a niche amount of the nip player base care about getting gud in 7ekken, as it will always stave off Westerners and the rest of the world with its frame information autism
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>>336337965
I honestly believe Tekken can do well if they hide Lucky Chloe behind a mass of other characters and market it properly.
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>>336338182
huh. I wonder if he was able to bring back that little girl

or S-Ko for that matter. It'd be funny if S-Ko was revived but just kept stalking Zappa
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A-anyone wanna add me for matches? Steam ID and PSN ID are both Breaknoon.
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I think the real problem is lack of long term support. You want to keep giving people a reason to come back be it big sponsored events or new dlc out. Arcs seem to only do stuff in burst with a very short dlc plan and only barely any big sponsored events most of which are just in japan.

The game is beautiful so I see no reason if they got better at community support the game wouldn't just attract through looks

>>336338102
As someone who was super pissed around how the treated us with sign, they definitely have done a lot better with revelator

They really need to make sure they keep it up, they and atlus have a habit of throwing one bone to europe and then giving up. They need to build a base basically from the ground up
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>>336338361

LetsBringIt in both as well. Not sure if the netcode will be good, I live in South East asia
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>three new characters
>$60

Sweet meme
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>>336325051
>the only good fighter is KI
>after that SFV is okay
>Soon revelator
>Tekken 7 confirmed garbage
>MK A fucking joke
WAKE ME UP
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>>336338568
you can get more with DLC and some are even free with preorders
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>>336338651
>KI
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>>336338568
three new character, three old characters recreated for the 3d engine
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>>336338568

I don't get how people can shit on SF for DLC when Aksys fighters all run this fucking jew price gouging bullshit.
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The issue with anime games is that it takes almost a year for the console release to come state side and by then the japanese are are on a different level of play.
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>>336338568
>7 new characters
>gradual transition to patch based updates with the story patches
>habbo hotel online lobby with fishing mini games and hats
>somehow this is worse than paying 70 bucks for an unfinished game with barebones content and slow as fuck updates and questionable changes
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>>336338872

>new story slideshows and loading screen mini games are worth $60

Sad
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>>336338861
it makes it faster to learn. you just fight against them and learn their tricks
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>>336338872
>7 new characters

Games comes with 3 and the rest are DLC. Apparently one or two will be free for a limited time.
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>>336338962
and anytime there is a major with any japanese players good luck to american anime players.
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>>336338861

Please, that excuse is pretty stupid. Even if it were released at the same time, Japan would still win and US will still suck shit, look no further than SFV.

The US need to step up their game and not throw excuses every fucking time, and how they act about hoarding tech
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>>336338958

>I can't do reading comprehension

Sad
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>>336339037
at least there is a chance at top 8 or even top 16. The disparity of skill between anime NA and Japanese, hell asia for that matter is insane.
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>>336338568

Exactly why no one gives a shit about air dash fighters. No one bothers learning whatever's out while they're working on the next three updates
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>>336339141

They should put that time in playing the game and getting better, organizing and joining locals instead of perpetuating the cycle. At the end of the day it's whether or not people actually want to get better, with a side of prize money.
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>>336339312
you can only be as good as the people around you. This is why NA anime scene is fucking jokes. Good players don't come out of vacuums.
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>>336338538
I cant find you using the search anon.
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>>336339750

In steam? Let me try, gimme a sec
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>>336325051
Of course, SF, even if the game is shit, will always be the game with most players simply because it is sf.

I pre ordered the game in hope that i would have a better internet connection later this year.

At least i get 2 from the 3 dlc characters.
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>>336339750
>>336339869


Added you
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>>336339312
>They should put that time in playing the game and getting better, organizing and joining locals instead of perpetuating the cycle.
If Arcs wants to see this then they need to support the scene better.

Why spend all that time for a small game when SF gets you notoriety and you like playing both?
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>>336340124

They do support it, they offer pretty good prize money to events and other tournaments, now the problem is they just can't compete with Capcom, Netherrealms or Microsoft with the cash they throw up.
They're a small company who makes their profit primarily from arcades. It's the same deal with Tekken and KoF, the devs would rather put all that effort on making the game (which is the correct thing to do as devs after all). Marketing is expensive and all they can offer is a respectable prize pot
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>>336340316
Occasional pot boosts is not the way to go, that gets you a one time boost in notoriety at best. They just need to straight up steal the pro tour formula, you don't even need to give a real boost to pots with that as it's all about the points.

Plus if you are going to do little events, get others to help. The red bull kumite wasn't a a capcom event, they didn't pay anything. Get fucking GG up there cause red bull are super open to esports shit.

Spacing out DLC more and making a big hype for release isn't hard either buy for some reason they always seem to shit them out quickly at the start and then the rest of the year is fuck all support.

> the devs would rather put all that effort on making the game (which is the correct thing to do as devs after all
You say this like others don't and that's simply not true
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>>336339003
2 of them are free iof you pre order the digital version like i did, Dizzy will be payed and so will all others.
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I'm pretty sure at least one of characters will be unlockable ingame like Sin was.
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>>336340121
Thanks for the games anons. GGs
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>>336325051
>Can a full price expansion to a game nobody plays but says they do save fighting games?
Fuck no.
Your only hope is Capcom pulling major changes to SFV at the end of the year or KoF XIV somehow doing immensely well despite the memes going against it.

Basically, prepare for another dark age.
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>>336343862
>Basically, prepare for another dark age.
When SFV has 4,000 entrants at evo? And kumite was getting 70,000 views? And street fighter crash is getting bigger and is on korean tv?

Not really, it's everyone else that needs to pull their socks up
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>>336344051
First year hype and an appeal to the esports casuals.

It won't last.
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>>336344051
>SFV has 4,000 entrants at evo
I wonder how many there will be for Xrd. Last year it was about 1000 which is quite impressive for anime.
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>>336344164
Lets pretend it is, It got half the evo entrants next year, half the views and street fighter crash just became a smaller twitch show. That would still be doing well especially compared to other fighting games

>>336344348
I don't know if we've had any numbers for it yet, should keep around the same I hope. The only game that really needs to worry is KI as that was embarrassing last year
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>>336344461
No wonder considering Xbone exclusivity.
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>>336325051
When they bringing back best girl
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>>336344586
Unfortunately pc doesn't seem to have changed much. It's a shame that the game seems like it will never get much of a chance at this point, I don't really care for it but it certainly could have reached more people
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>>336344461
>>336344586

Coming from someone that never played KI it just seems really clunky and weird and huge after kill combos seem silly.
Now I am aube completely wrong but there are a lot of guys like me who think the same
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>>336344775
I think she's in the end of the list with Fanny and Paradigm. And we need our vets first anyway.
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>>336345045
Well, it's the same for me. I have absolutely no fucking idea what the hell is going on. It looks like some endless combos with breakers and tons of particle effects. I also don't give a single fuck about KI. But I heard from people who play it game is really good and even somewhat innovative for a genre.
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>>336345045
I just don't like combo breaker as a mechanic, it seems like a really shitty way to do burst. Also visually it is a very messy game that can be hard to follow
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>>336345045
You are wrong but share the opinion of many people who haven't played the game.

Combos are that long because the game is designed around the breaker system, baiting breakers and counter-counter breaker strategies are a big part of the metagame.
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>>336345243
So just like bursts?
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>>336346181
Kind of but a little more indepth when you add in shadow breaking (which needs you to break 3 times in one shadow attack and alerts your opponent), shadow counters and counter breakers.
Then you got characters like Hisako who can specifically vary their Auto Double timings to bait breakers.

The main point of breaking is to stop your opponent from ending their combo with a finisher which deals heavy damage and also removes white health so breaking needs to be a much more common mechanic than bursts.

The game is balanced around these concepts.
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bumping with background.
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>>336344348
>>336344461
GG got 968 entrants last year
http://shoryuken.com/2015/07/01/evo-2015s-final-registration-numbers-released-see-where-your-favorite-game-stands/
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Jack-O is fun.
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>>336347808
I'm jacking off now
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>>336326893
Hopefully about 2 months after the console release. More realistically about 6~8 months.

>>336337830
But Eddie wasn't. That's why he's called Eddie in X2 and Zato-1 in Xrd.
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>>336348979
It's canon that Eddie died in X2 Accent Core.
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>>336349273
He dies in an ending but the point is that he isn't dead while playable.
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>>336325597
Damn, he really has that? Now every idiot is going to main him like Leo.
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Will they make any more after Revelator or is it the final edition?
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>>336335038
This, what the fuck. Watching northwest majors while GG was up everyone in twitch chat was whining about how boring it was and they wanted to watch sf v.
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Mortal kombat did it
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Did they ever release the DLC/patches for Xrd in the EU? makes me hesitate to buy this regions version.
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>>336350642
No but they claimed they will not leave eu behind like that again.
but I cant find the source for it anymore
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>>336350361
to be fair non japanese GG play is boring
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>>336350361
Its the new crowd SFV attracted.
They're fucking awful.
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>>336338682
I will never understand the hate for KI.
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>>336338861
SFV busted this myth already.
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>>336350836
I think it's very fun to watch, I actually find SF V very boring to watch compared to SF 4 or literally any other fighting game actually. It's still pretty fun to play though.
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>>336350872
Western fighting games are bad meme.
To be fair though it was a true meme until KI fixed its shit.
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>>336330775
>tfw this game is gonna be deader than dead on PC but I'm still going to buy it and enjoy it
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>>336325424
Just blitz shield you fuck.
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Doesn't this come out soon in Japan where the fuck is Dizzy?
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>>336338861
The Asians are just better than us, it has nothing to do with release dates.

The only guy who might be able to put up a fight in a non-SFIV game against the Asians would be Justin Wong, who is Asian himself LMAO.
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>>336351121
Same.
I think the only games I dont have (that I want) are XX and AH.
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>Can game that is already doing what has killed the fighting game franchise save fighting games?

No.
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>>336351551
>Justin Wong
Get fucking real.
Justin's old and busted now.
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>>336350361
Yeah, that was annoying.
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Those gg characters are horrible weebs overdesigned shit, i prefer more human looking like kof sf mk
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>>336351172
He tried...
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>>336351912
Is Venom happy or not?
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>>336351978
idk
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>>336351673
GG isn't weebshit
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>sf4 revived it
>sf5 killed it

like POETRY
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So how long until we get a game with just Sol and his motorbike?
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>>336352950
>That Motorcycle from the trailer.
Bike Sol playable when?
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>>336353109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYDks8OKL4o

so you just want this?
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>>336332803
What is this shit? I expected some assassin *teleports behind you* shit not this stretchy arm extendo fingers shit. I guess I'll be sticking with Chipp
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>>336353242
Yes. Except he never gets off the bike.
https://youtu.be/0KdDfGHpl5M?t=1m40s
Basically this.
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>>336353242
>>336356260
Oh and give him a copyright safe-ish version of this for his theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GugsCdLHm-Q
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>>336356618
There's no need for copyrights seeing as how one of their songs is a literal copy of Magnolia Éclair.
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>>336325051

Just because you suck or fighting genre doesn't appeal to yo doesn't mean games are dead.
Quit being a fucking narcissist emo.
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>>336325051
Even though guilty gear is much easier to play now, there's still too much going on in it for it to grab the casual street fighter crowd.
It isn't the type of game where a beginner can randomly win now and then.
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>only fightan played is gg and p4u
>get my shit kicked in sf
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>>336332803
Raven looks goofy with those stretchy arms.
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>>336357963

>Dat IK bait
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>>336325051
How does guilty gear play? Like MKX, SF5? I never played guilty gear.
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>>336360934
Like MvC but slower
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>>336360934
Not, it has much more freedom in both movement and combo. And characters are much more unique and interesting.
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>>336361351
It's rare to see a post this wrong, this should be preserved in a museum
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>>336361504
If you had to compare it to another mainstream fighter, you don't have much to choose from. Slower MvC with single digit combos is closer than any variation of MK or SF
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>>336361717
>Guilty Gear
>single digit combos
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>>336325051
>SF5 ruin it for everyone
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>>336360934
Like KoF stripped of mechanics.
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>>336361845
Even if you can get a combo longer than 10 hits, by that point each hit you make does so little damage it's not worth it. It's all about stringing short combos together.
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>>336326893
probably this december
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>>336361717
anon I can reliably pull off a 25 hit FRC combo with Sol and I suck at the game
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>>336360684
how can this man be so based and cute at the same time?
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>>336333567
SFV's model failed as soon as it was released. Revelator's demo has more content than all of SFV.
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>>336361845
This
Small combos is the major thing guilty gear got right. Other anime games think combo freedom means you need to have long as fuck combos.
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I'm not the biggest fighting game person, but guilty gear's big gimmick is that you can spend meter to cancel animations, right?

That and Ishiwatari loving the 80's
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>>336363463
>mfw I never cancel or use blitz shield
I should really stop playing against the AI
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>>336363463
Yea pretty much, roman cancels and punishing defensive play are the big gimmicks
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>>336325119
This.
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>>336363463
I think GG was the first game to introduce a meter cancel and an extra block mechanic.
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>>336364301
No.
Stomp/Maxmode cancels in KoF '98 and parrying in samsho 2
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>>336360934
Unique character gimmicks all over the place

>>336364301
Oh right, the perfect defense thing.

Is Xrd worth the buy? Most of the little play I have is from XX
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>>336364845
Wait until Revelator comes out which is next month. No one is playing the current version anymore.
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That Man playable when?
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capcom ruin it long before sf5
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>>336363463
2 meter cancels, 2 or 3 additional ways to block, bursts, RISC, air tech, dead angle attack, negative penalty, the dust button and several weird fighting mechanics exclusive to its respective character.
There's also different defense scaling values for each character and a damage scaling system based on independent scaling values for each attack.
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>>336360934
Like MvC with shorter combos, slower and everyone has an air dash and unique gimmick.
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I feel like every time I buy a fighting game, the player base is down to like 30 mins to find games within 2 months without fail

do casuals just buy them, play arcade for a few hours and leave it on the shelf or what? because some of them sell pretty well and yet are inexplicably dead within a quarter
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>>336369679
That's basically what happens most of the time, and the other half just start playing whatever new fighting game that's released.

The exceptions would be SFV and Melty. SFV because it's basically the go-to fighter, Melty because it has an incredibly loyal fanbase already that started out on PC and is never going to move away from it. BBCPE also has a surprisingly active online scene, I can find games at any time of the day.
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>>336330980
われは雷神!
絶対腐敗なり!

Ausf Achse port when?
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>>336370010
KoF has a pretty loyal fanbase but it was somewhat splintered after XIII.
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>>336360684
Actually that IK was going to hit either way, that combo is burst safe. He might as well have tried to burst.
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