How do you think Anor Londo is in 3 if it is confirmed to take long after 2 which took long after 1, with 2 being heavily implied to be built on the same location, yet we never saw this in 2? My headcanon is that Lothric isn't the same place as Lordran, but a recreation and the place the gods went to after they left Lordran in 1.
The easier answer is that 2 doesn't take place in Lordran at all.
Its just soulless rehashing. No legit way Anor Londo could be in the same area and connected like that.
Yet /v/ accepts this and shits on DS2 for MUH ELEVATOR even though they are the same thing
>>336304081
>TIME IS CONVOLUTED
>>336304081
Solaire had sex with Weaponsmith Ornitfex. The orgasm released a huge supernova that caused time to be convoluted. Anor Londo's main cathedral was ripped apart and landed over in some particular Kingdom, many different places from different kingdoms landed in this place, this kingdom was named Lothric.
>>336304253
Every single visible thing in DS3 is explorable, and visible from all angles displayed at an accurate distance. I think they know what they are doing. Therefore, the location of Anor Londo in 3 must have some kind of purpose. They wouldnt create the game world that good then overlook something like that.
>>336304081
Fan service
it's fanservice, but if you want an explanation lothric is probably some fucked up place and all the other kingdoms were built around lordran.
>>336304081
Nowhere is it confirmed that DS2 takes place before DS3. In fact DS3 makes it almost impossible that these two games even exists in the same timeline.
>>336304081
Dark Souls 2 was retconned to be set in far away land of no-one-cares, so it can continue being canon, without actually mattering to the canon for a bit.
>>336306737
You're an idiot. Vendrick as well as his dragonriding knights are talked about having existed so far in the past in more than a few items. There is a painting of Nashandra, aswell as a painting of the Old Iron King's throne. You can find Laddermaster Gilligan's corpse.
>>336306737
Not sure if you are trolling or what. Did you even pay attention while playing Dark Souls 3?
>>336304221
Keep in mind the start of 2 has you going back in time to Drangleic. The story could very well start in post Dark Souls 3 land.
>>336307279
It's confirmation bias, people like him wanted 2 retconned so they will overlook references to 2 in the game.
>>336304081
Implications are not confirmations. Drangleic is not Lordran.
>>336306963
It's chronologically impossible for DS2 to occur after DS3. Simply because the way information is passed down within the game world and to the player.
All the kingdoms are long gone in DS2. Places like Carim are not even mentioned in DS2.
Catarina is described as being an ancient kingdom
Astora is the same way.
All the names of the "champions" of these places are unknown and lost.
Now in DS3 all the kingdoms including fucking Vinhiem are back including many of the people.
Lets look at Artorias Greatsword. In DS2 its described as a mystical sword thats been passed down generation after generation though its original purpose lost. Now we have Abyss Watchers are direct Heirs to Artorias and worship him as almost an elder.
DS2 is either after DS3 or in an alt timeline.
>>336306737
From Ornstein's armor:
>In the dragonless age, this knight, who long guarded the ruined cathedral, left the land in search of their nameless king.
However, 2 is not in Lordran. They are different places. The differences from 1 to 3 can mostly be attributed to time.
>>336306963
>>336306963
>Vendrick as well as his dragonriding knights are talked about having existed so far in the past in more than a few items.
but
>You can find Laddermaster Gilligan's corpse.
Time is convoluted?
>>336308136
Anor Londo has a cathedral. it's where you fight Smough and Ornstein's illusion as well as Aldrich.
>>336308340
It wasn't ruined, though. Cathedral of the Blue, on the other hand, was.
>>336306737
I'm pretty sure DaS2 is a spin off taking place in a dream or painting or something.
>>336308571
That was all an illusion as you know. I see what your saying, i do. Lets be real for a second. That fight was one of many shameless DS1 references made. It's Le Ornstein meme boss. Hardly considered canon.
>>336308709
Lol they basically say it in the beginning. "Perhaps you have seen it in a dream"
My head canon for 2 is that it takes place in parallel reality as 1 and 3 and since time is fucked up in the 1and verse, things from 2 bleed into 1 and 3 and vice versa.
Drangleic was never confirmed to be even near lordran. As of Ds3 we now know that it's really far away. End of story
>>336306737
>he actually thinks ds3 retconned ds2
>slav
that explains that
Why? Do people actually think that any videogame lore comes close to depth and narrative quality of /tg/ or literature fantasy?
>>336307990
>>336308116
All the item description in Dark Souls 3 suggest that Dark Souls 3 takes place several years after Dark Souls 2.
We don't know how far these kindgoms are from each other, Drangleic might be so far Carim/Vinheim to not even know their existence.
Lothric is definitely close to where Lordran was.
>>336309618
The thing people are confused about was that DS 2 heavily implied that it's around the same place as DS 1, but very very far in the future that most names from DS 1 days have been lost.
>>336309618
>All the item description in Dark Souls 3 suggest that Dark Souls 3 takes place several years after Dark Souls 2.
Which items?
>We don't know how far these kindgoms are from each other, Drangleic might be so far Carim/Vinheim to not even know their existence.
Nope. These kingdoms were far away from Lordran and not only are NPCs there but they are currently existing.
>Lothric is definitely close to where Lordran was.
It takes place in Lordran. Demon Ruins are below Farron and the Anor Londo cathedral has been maintained while Irithyll was build from what was once the city of Anor Londo.
>>336310261
Shield of Want
>>336310261
>A Hollow once fought valiantly with this mask, but feared the fading of her self, and implored a comrade remember her name.
>Perhaps that is why this gentleman's mask is named after a woman
>Shield of an ancient king who was cursed by an all-consuming thirst. In the end, he was no king.
>The residue of the king's lust still smolders within this shield, increasing the number of souls absorbed when enemies are defeated.
>>336304081
The kingdoms all run together because of the need to gather the Lords of Cinder. So there is no, before/after. The timelines all converge in Lothric.
>>336310261
Corpse of Laddersmith Gilligan in Profound Capital.
>>336309020
it's doctor who all over again then
I love these threads, but use the catalog first guys.
>>336311360
I did use the catalog, that thread did not exist when I made this.
>expecting anything cohesive in a from game
The games have minimal connections to each other besides references and pandering, from does self contained stories the best anyways, that's why DeS' lore is the clearest and most sensible in the series. I feel bad for people who expected Dark Souls' sequels to answer questions they had about the lore.
>>336304081
I remember reading a few descriptions that talk about the world shifting around and regions appearing and disappearing. This is the only one I could find though.
"Small banner held by Lothric messengers. Hold up outside the main castle gate to be greeted by an escort.
When the High Wall appeared, the path to the Undead Settlement was blocked, and messengers came bearing this banner. They were sent out with a duty, but had no way of returning."
>When the High Wall appeared
Is there a reason Iirythil knights walk on all 4's?
>>336314874
You mean the Outriders?
>Armor of an Irithyll outrider knight. Enveloped in a dimly cool air.
The knights were given the eyes of the Pontiff, but the eyes transformed them into savage, raving warriors who only knew how to serve as mindless guards.
>>336314756
The opening states that it's where the lands of the lords of cinder converge. And Cornyx of the Great Swamp mentions something about Izalith moving closer or some shit.
>>336315764
The dudes with the glowing blue eyes, yeah.
>Using the term Headcanon.
Fuck all of you faggots that use that stupid fucking word.
Dark Souls was made by some chink who used to he illiterate in English, so he would make retarded stories in his mind while poorly reading books. The same feeling is conveyed to the player, so go ahead and make your own stories and shit, but stop with the tumblr tier bullshit.
There's no set story in this universe. It's a setting with shared pieces of lore and characters holding it together, so that niggers like you can make up your own fanciful tale of heroism and shit.
And DS2 takes place before three, you God damn mongoloids. The games go in a sequence, why in the ever-loving name of fuck would they break it? Not to mention the Farran set being in the game, as well the fucking crown worn by the Firekeeper. Oh and fucking Lucatiel's shit and Nirrah being mentioned. Fuck you.
The timeline is based around the idea of enough time passing between each game for the world to change. Land masses move, oceans dry and rise up and shit like that. In two some faggots believed that time moved from zone to zone somehow, which still makes sense here.
But seriously, stop with your faggy shit
>>336316958
>Using the term Headcanon.
>Fuck all of you fa
Stopped reading.
>>336317161
Well goos for you, you fucking faggot. I bet you use that stupid fucking word and "fandom ."
Back in the day we used to run faggots like you out of town. Now this place is infested with cross-site posters and mongoloids who can't figure out something as simple as a game being a sequel to another one.
>>336316958
>so go ahead and make up your own headcanon
>STOP USING THE WORD HEADCANON
Are you actually retarded?
>>336317439
Shut the fuck up you uppity fool. Go fap and take a nap.
>>336307865
>Keep in mind the start of 2 has you going back in time to Drangleic
stop making shit up asshole
Wait so Aldrich is actually Smough and Ornstein is dead since forever.
Who was the Old Dragonslayer in DS2?
What is the Dragonslayer Armor?
I think chronologically, it goes DeS, DaS, DaS3, BB, DaS2.
>LE TIME IS LE CONVOLUTED
>why is it convoluted?
>IDK BUT IT IS xD
^ this is why I can't take lore speculators seriously, you can't use this an excuse and then never tell us why time is fucking convoluted or in what way. I fucking hate Loreposters so goddamn much.
>>336318519
>Putting DeS and BB into a chronology that they're not related to, let alone each other
>das2 after das3 for no reason
I've only skimmed through this thread but I'm 100% sure you're the most retarded person here.
>>336316958
>make up your own story
>DONT SAY HADCANON
Also
>3 takes place long after 2 which took place long after 1
>3 TOOK PLACE AFTER 2 GOD ARE YOU RETARDED HOW DO YOU NOT GET THIS
This post was completely ironic right?
>>336318519
Fuck you
It's Des,Das,Das2,Das3 BB has similar mechanics but theres no room for other lore shit in that universe I don't want no ays in my dark souls
