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The nioh demo made me want to try out more souls games. Playing
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The nioh demo made me want to try out more souls games. Playing bloodborne for the first time. Lets talk about it.

Is bloodtinge as shit as it sounds? I like firearms and it would be interesting to make a build around the stat.
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Yeah, it's pretty shit. Arcane is fun, but it doesn't get that way until the end of the game, so prioritize other stats first.
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>>336301672
There are a couple of DEX/BLT weapons. I've never really messed with bloodtinge, but there are some builds out there. Not sure I'd recommend it as a first time build though.

Also, get The Old Hunters. It's pretty damn good and has my favorite boss in the Souls/soulslike games.
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>>336301672
Bloodtinge is fun as fuck.
>Repeating pistol
>Blood bullets
>Bone marrow ash
>Parry enemy
>Visceral with chikage
Insane amounts of damage.
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Bloodtinge takes a heavy investment to become worth it, but it's definitely viable. Don't do it on your first playthrough though.
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so you know how the threaded cane has three scaling letter grades: E in strength, C in skill, and D in arcane, does that mean all three of the stats affects the damage output of the cane, or is skill the only stat governing it?

The threaded cane is the first weapon I chose but its dealing absolutely zero damage to the tree boss. Which by the way, this is pretty funny, I got to the tree boss before I got to the first bonfire / lamp. don't really know which route I took that I somehow managed to get to the boss that early, before I could even level up.

Which by the way, what triggers the doll to appear? After three deaths, the doll just appeared but I didn't really do anything I feel. It appeared after the boss though.
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Do you know much about the game? If not then you should probably avoid threads like this and looking shit up, it'll be worth it.
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>>336302645
>the tree boss
Did you accidentally play Dark Souls III?
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>>336302678
My friends are huge dark souls freaks so I know a good deal about the game, but I'm sure I'm in for a number of surprises. The story hasn't really clicked with me yet, I really only care about the gameplay at the moment -- the level design is 10/10 though, wish I had a map however, I get lost so easily.
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>>336302345
This. Bloodtinge can be good, but don't do a bloodtinge or arcane build for your first.
>>336302645
Seeing the boss gained you 1 insight, that's all it takes for the doll to come alive.
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>>336302645
Having 1+ insight causes the Doll to "come to life".

You gain your first insight by either using mad man's knowledge, or by fighting Cleric Beast.
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>>336302645
Unless a weapon does some kind of magic damage natively (Holy Moonlight Sword, Blades of Mercy, Logarius' Wheel, Burial Blade, and possibly some others?), only the strength and skill scaling will affect its damage. If you slot in a gem that gives it lightning or fire, it will then switch to the arcane scaling.
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>>336302962
Oh, I meant Cleric Beast I guess. He looked tree-like when I fought him, but he clearly isn't now that I see a still image of him. I think I was too scared to take a good look at him because he appeared so early on and out of nowhere.
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>>336302645
It scales decently in Skill, and shittily in Strength. So shitty that it's not worth noting. Arcane scaling is a special case, it only comes into play if you put elemental gems into your weapon, which isn't something you can do right now.

The Doll wakes up when you get your first point of Insight. You get Insight from seeing a boss, defeating a boss, co-op and PvP, or using Madman's Knowledge items. There is a second shop in the Dream on the balcony where you can spend insight, but there's probably not much you want there now. Shops get more stock as you progress.

Bloodborne doesn't really have lamps all over the place like the other Souls games, there's just one at the start of the area and one when you beat a boss. The game relies on shortcuts a lot.

>>336302852
Souls games aren't really about story, although I'll bet you'll come to appreciate the setting and atmosphere of it. I'm sure you'll appreciate the lack of a map too.
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>>336303012
Tonitrus and Boom Hammer for their bolt and fire damage.

And Amygdalan Arm in transformed mode has a small arcane split.
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>>336301672
Bloodtinge is the most fun build for me, up there with arcane

But I don't think it's viable unless you know where to go to get bloodtinge scaling weapons. You either get to an optional area where you need to fight a hard boss or you need to go to the DLC. Either way both options are open at the 1/3rd point of the game, before then you'll be suffering with no bloodtinge scaling weapons and probably wont upgrade whichever weapon you have because you want to focus on the others you're about to get.

For now go with a more safe build and on the second playthrough make a bloodtinge character.

Weapons are fun as fuck, it's just that getting to them requires previous knowledge
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>>336302264
If you do get the Old Hunters though, keep in mind it's pretty tough. So while you can access it right after beating Vicar Amelia, you might want to hold off and level up a bit first.
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>>336302852
>The story hasn't really clicked with me yet
It will, it will.

It's very subtle and very much a secondary feature to Bloodborne, but the story is absolutely fantastc.
You'll put more and more pieces of the story together as you progress. Things will get weird.
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I'm suprised you're not just bitching about the crowd of dudes at the beginning of the game
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>>336303875
Early game weapon availability hurts this game so much for me. I love replaying them, and I love Bloodborne, but I can only play it once in a great while.
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>>336304035
He came from the Nioh demo, he's more than prepared for hard.
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>>336304073
Why not just play NG+ with any weapon you like?
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>>336304073
That's what NG+ is for.
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>>336304073
this is why i'm glad i'll never get tired of the hunter axe and R2 spin 2 win.
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>>336304269
>>336304284
Doing that right now, I just prefer NG.
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>>336301672
Bloodtinge is the most powerful. It's why its one of the meta stats. Chikage and Evelyn are ez wins.
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>>336304035
Every enemy besides the cleric beast has been easy so far. Only enemy I simply cannot defeat is the executioner hidden behind those barrels.
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>>336304756
He's there just to stomp newbies who think they have to kill everything ever
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>>336304073
I replayed BB the most

DaS1's second half makes me want to vomit, I only played it twice and when I replay the game I stop once I get the Lordvessel

DaS2 is pure shit. nothing else to add.

DaS3 is too linear and I just found the game to be boring. All the pandering and fanservice makes me heavily dislike it. I've no reason to replay it since most weapons and armors are from previous games, which I've already experimented with so there's no point. They should have much, much more original content instead of rehashes to make it interesting for me.
Also the stat resets discourage me from caring about secondary characters, I can just reset and try a magic build out on the spot.

Bloodborne is perfect because it does NPC interactions and branching story paths the best. There's so much shit that can happen depending in the order you do it. I remember replaying it 3 times just to see how I could save the most NPCs.
I disagree with weapon variety, like I said you pretty much are able to unlock all weapons after Amelia and getting to her takes 1 hour once you know the game.
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So Im still playing around with weapons and still looking for my go to 2. Right now its narrowed to
>Church Pick
>Beast Cutter
>Rayuko
>Reiterpallasch
And though moonlight is cool to look at, I get the feeling EVERYONE uses that damn thing so which two should I go for?
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>>336304756
You don't get anything for killing him oddly, but it helps to learn how to parry him.
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>>336304880
This. That's something souls newbies struggle with, realizing that you can (and should) just run past enemies sometimes. Other games condition you to think every enemy presented must be beaten and if you can see it, you're ready to take it on.
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>>336304756
Are you still struggling with Cleric Beast?

If you pick up the Saw Spear from the corpse dangling above the sewers, use that for serrated damage against beast enemies. Untricked deals a particularly nice amount of damage.

Same goes for Saw Cleaver, though that loses serrated status when tricked.
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>>336305165
Not him but what exactly does the saw cleaver get when tricked, it seems a little useless
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>>336304886
I don't hate DaS's second half and it was my first so I replayed that an unhealthy amount. I also don't like 2, and I went back to Bloodborne after my first playthrough of 3 because I had no desire to replay. Bloodborne's good, I just wish I could get whatever weapon I want earlier. If I want the Chikage, Wheel, BoM, Burial Blade, etc. then I'm fucked.
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>>336304987

Rayuko is op so I use that if I'm tired. My favorite weapon is the Whirlgig Saw though, it's fun as hell
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>>336305090
yes you do, you get the sword hunter badge that allows you to buy the kirkhammer, repeating pistol, hunter chief emblem and some other stuff
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Is there some sort of hidden drawback to using the hip lantern? Im paranoid to equip that damn thing because Im afraid it fucks with stamina or something
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>>336305309
I was referring to the executioner.

>>336304987
BEAST CUTTAH
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So if we've had
four games with western high fantasy and 'soul' magic
one of victorian-ish gothic and blood 'magic'
can the next one be old-western with bone 'magic'?
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>>336305279
see
>>336304269
>>336304284
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>>336305382
oh, i feel dumb.
you can get very early blood gems from him, but it's not like you have the tool for it yet anyway.
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There's one gun that scales well with bloodtinge in the end game but you need at least 25 for it to be better than a standard pistol.
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>>336305232
Just a different moveset. It is a bit shit.

>>336305360
No. It used to slow damn stamina regen funnily, but they patched that out pretty early on. Seems like there was an obtuse equipment burden system in place when it launched, but they scrapped it.
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>>336305390

I want a sci fi souls game.
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>>336305360
It's not as bright, no fire damage.

And I think the light makes enemies notice you easier? Might be placebo
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>>336305515
We all do.
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>>336305515
yeah, i want to use a lightsaber greatsword
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>>336305382
>>336305305
Its funny, I was thinking of Rayuko and perhaps alternating between Beast Cutter and Church Pick. Im actually trying to get away from Reiterpallasch because I dont use the gun that often and I seldom use its default form
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>>336304987
Rakuyo is OP as fuck, but I love the Beast Cutter purely because of moveset and design. It's the STR version of the Threaded Cane and it fuckin' shows.
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>>336302645
The threaded cane in whip mode does 20% extra damage to beats due to the serration bonus some weapons have in their alt mode.

Saw cleaver has it when in short mode and saw spear has it in both modes.

If you're going for a dex build I recommend having a saw spear, the cane is cool and all but you really need something that hits beasts hard and fast and the whip is slow.
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>>336305515
I'm unsure how they'd pull it off, it feels like all the sorts of sci-fi out there have been milked too hard.

would it be like dark-space where everything is all industrial and it has 'generic weird flesh alien things'
or some phantasy star styled everything is glowy slashy lasers like >>336305610
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>>336301672
Am I the only person that truly started to appreciate BB on the second playthrough? Knowing my away around the areas after getting my balls busted by them on the first run felt... cathartic and relaxing.

Beating Gascoigne on my first try felt great too, since he killed me like seven times on my first run. Getting five viscerals in a row felt like a compensation for learning the mechanics.

It's almost like the game rewards you for investing effort. I haven't really felt like that with any other games in the franchise, at least not on this level.
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>>336305743
I never liked the Cane, but I took immediately to the Beast Cutter and now I like the Cane too.

I think I just got sick of starting with the Saw Cleaver or Spear too.
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>>336305892
Happened to me with Dark Souls and Demon's Souls as well. They're just deep games in the sense that you can always find something new to appreciate about them.
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Whats the best weapon to use early if I want to do a MLGS build

Also is there any way to cheese Ludwig so I can get it early
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OP here. A'ight so I killed the doll (always attack NPCs just to see if its okay then I reload, but this shit autosaved). How the fuck do I level up now?!
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Ive never played Dark Souls and during my playthrough of BB I managed to beat a good number of bosses first try. I was shocked when I beat Orphan of Kos too. But out of all the bosses for some reason I had the most trouble with Amygdala of all things. Fuck that multi armed asshole
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>>336306047
The game saves every 30 seconds, you can't attack an NPC and expect to reload that away.
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>>336306047
Don't do that.

Luckily the Doll will revive and act like it's her first time meeting you. Dumbass.
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>>336306039
Might be best to just ask someone here to help you, aka do it for you.
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>>336306047
You dont you fucking moron. Why in the holy fuck did you do that?! Shes innocent!
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>>336306047
She'll come back, don't worry.

Also, don't hurt the doll; she's for tender loving, not hurting. And don't hurt NPCs either.
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>>336306164
What level were you on Kos?
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>>336305897
One of the reasons I kinda lost interest in the game around the start Byrgenwerth was that I hadn't seen an alternative weapon and I was stuck with the Saw Spear.

Glad I stuck with it though and went back and did Cainhurst at that point. It was hard as balls since I was way underlevelled, but the Chikage was so much fun.
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>>336302645
I see you fell for the meme cane. I would suggest restarting with saw cleaver
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>>336306286
>not hitting the doll with your fists a few times to only to see her get stained in white and fapping to that
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>>336301672
It's a pvp stat
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>>336305515
>>336305610
Here you go.
https://youtu.be/vULGdh1ecU4
It's shit
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>>336306403
The cane isn't as bad as before the DLC, they doubled the speed of the whip almost.
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>>336306403
>restarting over a starter weapon
Wut?
Just get into the sewer, kill the pig, grab the badge and buy it.
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>>336306164
Amygdala was one of the four bosses that I got on my first try. Weird.

What weapon were you using?
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>>336306295
I cant remember off the top of my head but I started the dlc on NG+ and none of my stats are over 40. I dodged behind him and killed him with Reiterpallasch
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>>336306540
Or better yet get the saw spear, it has the same moves and slightly better range
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>>336306518
Oh. Maybe that's why I like it more now.
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i want to fuck the doll
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>>336306615
IIRC I was using saw spear and ludwigs sword at the time. I was trying to use the sword overhead to try and wack Amygdalas head because it was one of his few weak points
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>>336306775
The doll is for soft cuddles and warm hugs, not fucking.
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>>336301672
If you want to be a katanafag upgrade bloodtinge. There may be a weapon in the expansion that also uses bloodtinge, like the bow, but I'm not sure.
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>>336306775
I want to smooch the doll.
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>>336306615
I also got him on my first try, but it took ages because I didn't target his head. I stayed between his legs where it's safe, and kept whacking away at them despite the low damage until he was dead.
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>>336306901
Is her delicate body cold or warm?
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lore-wise, what does it mean that it takes one insight to see that the doll is "living"?
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Anyone for some cookies?
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>>336307080
warm, definitely
>>336307161
That you gotta be really fucking dumb not to realize that she loves you.
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>>336306840
>>336307050
Yeah, I was also using Ludwig's, and I also tried to hit him in the head by spamming L2; although I actually got him after realizing that you can cause more damage by hitting him in the arms.
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>>336301672
BT requires weapons that scale with it.

Aka, the Reiterplasch, Chikage, Simon's Bowblade, or the Bloodletter.

It's a niche build and not good for your first run because it requires a pretty specific load out.
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>>336307312
Ebrietas was another one that got me. I can deal with nearly everything except that damn charge attack
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>>336306403
I picked the cane for my first playthrough and beat Cleric and Gascoigne with it
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>>336307191
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>>336307460
That just has a fucked hitbox.
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>>336307080
Considering in the Childhood's Beginning ending, she asks "Are you cold?" and then picks you up, definitively warm.
>>336307161
Insight is essentially eldritch knowledge and being able to see past a mere human perception of the world into the supernatural planes of existence that the Great One's occupy. The doll clearly isn't just a normal doll, so you need a little bit of insight into things to see it properly.
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Only assholes hurt their doll
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>>336307527
About the only time in the game where I felt the death wasnt fair.
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Bloodborne has the worst stat balance out of any Souls game.

Bloodtinge is literally only there if you want to use Chikage.
Arcane is for gimmick builds and gimmick weapons only.
Endurance is as shit as Resistance was in DaS1 and is a complete waste of points

Vitality, Strength, and Dexterity are the only stats really worth a shit.
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>>336307460
Chalice Ebritetas is even worse.
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>>336307460
I took me like three tries just to figure out her moves. Turns out that you just have to stay behind her, but not lock on while you're getting there. She only has one attack that can hit you there, but she telegraphs it too much.

The charge attack is unfair though.
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>>336308202
Endurance is worth putting a few points into. But yeah, BB is definitely less of an RPG than DaS and DeS.
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I'm doing a skill build and I'm using blades of mercy +9
they are fun, but I can't beat this boss with them!
Also I finally got The Old Hunters DLC and I guess I'll start it once I beat the final boss but no Moon Presence.
Would you guys recommend me getting Buriel Blade?
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>>336308347
Maybe if you use certain weapons like Spin2Win, but the default starting End is more than enough to play the whole game because dodging and attacking doesn't cost any stamina.
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There's literally no reason to not just use Ludwigs holy sword
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>>336308351
I believe BB scales with Skill and Arcane just like the BoM, so you might as well get it since you're already specced for it. And it's not like you'll be able to pick up the game on NG and use the BB whenever you want, so take the opportunity now.
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>>336308459
You're fine with base End, but I feel the difference in how aggressive I can be after putting a few points in.
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>>336301672

Bloodtinge CAN be good, but please don't do a Bloodtinge build on your first playthrough. It's more of an expert-I-know-what-im-doing kind of thing. It's shit for a long time if you don't know EXACTLY where to go, what to get and what to upgrade
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Post Hunters and r8
>This character's on NG+2
>Had to make a new character just to go through the DLC
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>>336308468
I used it my first playthrough. I like some variety, though.

>>336308537
Yeah, I got 20 arcane and 25 skill.
Guess I'll just keep trucking until I get BB. Can someone help me with Ebrietas, though? It's like the one boss so far I can't beat with Blades of Mercy. I did it my 2nd try with Ludwig's sword on my first playthrough.
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Just beat Defiled Hotdog again. Am satisfied.
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>>336308645
Am the only one that likes to go all the way up to the soft cap at 40?
It's nice to be able to just keep whacking away at things.
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>>336308785
I like your outfit. I had to do the same thing also.
Trying out a skill build now. What weapon are you using in your pic?
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>>336308785
Previous Hoontah. Current one is a Maria clone since I tried the Rakuyo and fell in love.
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>>336308785
have you been nice to your doll?
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LEL Op here. I just beat Papa G on my first try and I haven't even gone back to the Cleric Beast yet. I got lost again and wandered into the grave where Papa G was I guess. The boss fight started and I accidentally beat him.
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>>336309226
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>beat this game no problem
>get Old Hunters
>try playing through again
>keep fucking losing to Blood-Starved Beast, someone I've never died to even once before

WHY
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>>336309169
Are you the pebbles-thrower?
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>>336309229
gud job man
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>>336308993
See
>>336308241
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>>336306403
Absolute scrub shitter detected.
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>>336309229
Might have missed an NPC because of that but maybe not. I'd explore a lot before killing any more bosses. A lot of events are tied to how many bosses you've killed/which bosses you've killed.

Either way, nice. Most people die a lot against him, he's the casual barrier.
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>>336302678
Unless I Have An Idea on What to Do I Get Bored Easily In A Souls Game. Not Sure Why. Probably Just Because I Hate Running Around Guessing Where I Need To Go Next For Hours
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>>336309547
Jayden?
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>>336309313
are you on ng+?
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Still pissed they havent added a respec item yet.

My first character feels so goddamn lonely with her misplaced stats, sitting in NG+ and barely able to kill anything.

My two new chars on the other hand shreds through things but I dont feel like going through Chalices on them.
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>>336309229
Here's pic for proof, though I wish I had more proof that I did indeed kill him on the first try.
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>>336308785
I don't have a picture, but my current guy is a beasthood hunter that uses beast's embrace rune + beast claw + brador's set. it's pretty fun.
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>>336309547
RIP this guy's shift button
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>>336309654
No. Had to start new character to do The Old Hunters.

I apparently just fucking suck after playing through DaS3.
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>>336309065
>Kind anon made this for me in Bloodborne General when I got my first Defiled Hotdog kill
>Still on Defiled Amy

>>336309138
Ludwig's Holy Blade, also known as the meme Blade.
Think I'm currently using the Whirligig Saw on my new character.
>Have like 3 character on NG+

>>336309226
Of course.
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>>336309547
If Our Mirrors Aren't Real, How Can Our Eyes Be Real?
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>>336309716
We believe you, pham.
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>>336309702
>make first guy
>35 Endurance because I will never be able to unlearn habits from DaS1
>same shit happened in DaS3

please help me
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>>336309817
Er, made THIS for me.
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>>336301672
Bloodtinge makes you a long range murder machine but you have to pump a lot of points into it to activate it. It used to be incredibly OP until it got nerfed.
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>>336309882

You can respec in DS3, so problem solved.
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Im currently helping a friend with his playthrough, though I wish he'd stop fucking killing every non aggressive NPC
>Ok so you just have to use make contact with the brain for-
>Killed it
>Alright.....well The Vileblood-
>Stabbed her too
>You didnt kill the Old Man at the Ward did you?
>..........
>OH COME ON!
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>>336309791
have fun with Ludwig
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Currently with 50 Bloodtinge and 50 Skill
I still dont get a good damage with two handed Chikage
What runes should i use for her?
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God bless you if you plan on going through Chalices OP.
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>>336309716
Not that big of an achievement bucko but we're still proud of you. Come back when its Ebrietas or something
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>>336309997
To be fair, the chapel dweller freaked me out and I killed him my first playthrough. Poor guy, he's about the only decent person in the whole damn game that shows any concern for others.
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>>336310103
How do I even begin chalices? Is it an online only mode?
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>>336301672
Dex tinge is the strongest build in the game pvp. Anyone that says otherwise has never tried it.
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>>336310103
Chalices ain't a thang.

>>336310203
You'll find them as you progress through the game, then you can use them on tombstones in the dream.
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>>336310263
But there is a shit load of chalices to go through. It's why I don't fucking PvP in BB.
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I WANT to play Bloodborne more than Dark Souls 3 but it's just too annoying to set up PVP characters in Bloodborne.

>have to min/max to perfection since there's no reallocating stats
>have to farm gems FOREVER every time you start a new char just to be relevant, no substitute for this
>way less players, have to wait 15+ minutes between fights whereas DS3 I put a soapstone down and get a kill every minute or so
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eh fuck it, I know you guys said not to make a bloodtinge build on your first playthrough, but im doing it.
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>>336310084
I mean Blood Gems
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>>336310721
It's fine, just make sure you're putting stats into other places too.
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>>336310961
I just put like 8 levels into bloodtinge. I was gonna max it out first.
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>>336311053
That's dumb.
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>>336311053
Just go up to 25. After that, you start seeing a drop-off anyway.
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>>336310263
>dat webm
MY ARM
MY ARM
MY ARM
CAN SUMMON UP THE POWER OF THE GOD HAND!
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>>336310721
You can level whatever you want alongside it. Honestly, anything other than Vitality past 25 isn't worth it. You can easily make a build that can use every type of weapon with similar damage at 10+ with relevant Blood Gems. Specific builds with 50 in a stat is a terrible thing.
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>>336310721
Hit the soft cap on vit and get 50 skill first. IIRC you only need like 20 end for pvp. Also if you don't want to farm end game gems. Winter lanterns in nightmare of mensis are the second best thing. This game is cool to play as a single player game but pvp is horrible in all aspects. Only thing I miss from BB is parryable heals.
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hey i just noticed that hitting enemies regenerates some health. Thats casual as fuck. Is there anyway to turn it off?
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>>336311930
No.
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>>336311930
It's to encourage you to play more aggressively, and a neat system that rewards a high risk play style because you have to make the decision to play it safe and back off and heal or to risk it and keep attacking.
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>>336311930
it's only if you've just taken damage
>casual as fuck
it encourages you to play more aggressively, so it's actually chemo
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>>336311930
You have a limited time after getting hit to strike back and recover health. Different weapons recover more or less and getting hit again removes the gray health. It's meant to encourage aggression.
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>>336311930
It's an important gameplay mechanic, you autist. A swift combo can save you when there isn't time for traditional healing.
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>>336311930
You should see the webms with people just mashing R1 on each other. It's fucking hilarious.
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>>336312364
You should see the webms from DS3 where one person R1 spams another and the victim can't do anything besides dying.
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Am I the only person on /v/ that owns a PS4 and hasn't played Bloodborne? It seems like it.
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>>336312685
Hopefully.
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>>336310624
nobody else can relate to this?
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>>336302280
This. I rek online like this
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>>336312685
No, normies and casuals stay away. For actual gamers, it's become THE game associated with the PS4 and the only reason to own one. For the time being.
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>>336312809
It's kind of a given, but nobody gives a shit about PvP anyway.
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Where do I find the screenshots I took from my game by PC? Log in to PSN's website?
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>he doesn't unleash the darkness of his souls by using the chikage
pshh
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>started my first character and leveled END up to 20
Shit, is END really that bad? Should I just start over?
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>>336313219
Nah, just keep it at 20.
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>>336313219
Any higher than 20 is a waste, depending on your weapon.
Big, heavy weapons like Kirkhammer, Whirlygig Saw and such benefit from having higher END but the reality is that good stamina management > raw numbers in Bloodborne.
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>>336313219
END is useful for heavier weapons. The Holy Blade L2 combo can only be fully performed with 20 - 25-ish END. Also, stop being a metafaggot. It's completely irrelevant in BB.
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>>336301672
Bloodtinge is shit until you get the chikage, it's trick mode has S bloodtinge scaling at +10 and it does insane damage
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>>336312809
bloodborne really fucked up balance by leaving all the viable gems to grinding out the most difficult chalices
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>>336313685
>getting the very best top-tier shit requires tackling the hardest dungeons
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>>336313685
That means scrubs aren't allowed in relevant PVP.
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>buy BB two weeks ago
>remember a cannon webm i saw on here
>first playthrough becomes Bloodtinge/STR build around this cannon
>see this thread full of people saying "dont go bloodtinge first."

I dont understand why you all are saying that.
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Doing my beginner playthrough as well and so far ive only invested in stamina just coz it makes it easier for me to move around. Im around lv20+ now and im still not sure which other stats should i invest in. suggestions? (w/o being too spoiler-y i guess)
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>>336313685
It just means that you need skill to have a top tier setup
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>>336314391
Cannon doesn't need BT anyway.
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>>336314528
considering it scales with BT, a build centered around that weapon does, I would say.
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>>336314421
Vit, of course. Don't worry about Strength or Skill until you've decided on a weapon, then put some points in Arcane when you're satisfied with that.
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>>336302953
Seconding this. Bloodtinge and Arcane can both be great (especially with the old hunters) but they're tougher to pull off than skill or strength builds.

I'd suggest going strength for your first go through, I found it the easiest.
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>>336314613
at +10 it's got D bloodtinge scaling
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>>336314421
>(w/o being too spoiler-y
Plain doll is a DOLL
Gherman is OLD
Hunters hunt BEASTS
Blood HEALS
All important spoilers
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So what can we expect in terms of setting/weapons for a sequel?
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>>336314613
Upgraded Cannon hits like a fucking truck at the base BLT requirement, though. Any more BLT is simply icing on the cake.
Character in this webm has the base BLT required for the Cannon.
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>>336314828
No sequel.
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>>336314828
there is no sequel.

>>336314732
shit youre right. oh well. werf.
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>>336314887
>>336314892
Youre shitting me. Well I guess quit while youre ahead
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>>336314759
>not Doll is A CUTE
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>>336314884
what weapon is that?
please be STR wep please say STR
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>>336315032
Beast Cutter, STR weapon from the DLC.
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>>336314978
She's a doll not your waifu! Better lay back on that insight brah.
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>>336315032
It's the Beast Cutter A.K.A the coolest fucking STR weapon in the entire game. Deals all blunt damage so you can buff it to INSANE levels with blunt gems, and the range on whip form is insane.
AND IT SOUNDS
SO
GOOD
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>>336312848
What do you mean by the spoiler? Nioh?
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>>336315102
SHE'S MY PRINCESS AND I'M GONNA MARRY HER!

AND YOU'RE ALL INVITED!
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>>336315149
https://youtu.be/a-Pi9TyoKT0?t=50s
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>>336306993
There's the blood letter, which IMO is just as strong as the chikage but it's a strength/blood weapon rather than a skill/blood weapon.
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>>336306403
>hating on the cane

tfw i have never used any weapon other than the cane, including dlc
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>>336315396
I'm calling Eileen you clearly lost your mind.
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>>336304987
Rayuko's moveset is fantastic and makes me flaccid whenever I think about how ds3 has no dual wield weapon with nearly as good a moveset.
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>>336306518
proof?
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>>336315437
It's like a symphony. Music to my ears.
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>>336301672
Bloodtinge isn't worth using unless you have the DLC, in which case it because pretty damn good.
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>>336315593
Maria's a big baby!
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>>336315583
A hoonter moost love their doll~!
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>>336315091
>>336315149
>>336315437

Bruh, how early can I get that weapon?
Like, could I buy DLC then travel to snab it real quick? Ive only killed like 4 bosses in the main game.
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>>336315934
Very early. As long as you know where to get it, you can step into the DLC, run past everything and snatch it up without fighting anything.
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>>336315934
It's one of the first weapons you can find in the DLC. It's just lying on the ground in zone 1.
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>>336315934
If you've killed Amelia then you can get it pretty quickly. If you've killed four but haven't killed her then she's your next one.
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>>336306286
>And don't hurt NPCs either
Except for the beggar. Always attack the beggar.
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>>336316036
>>336316053
Yusssss.
>muthafuckinbreadcrumbs.jpb

>>336316080
Yeah I killed her, the two witches, then skipped to Agmadala or h/w you spell her name.
Nightmare realm is a bitch.
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>>336316087
yeah fuck him
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>>336315614
Hearing that metallic clacking sound set to the tune of these insane fucks screaming "MORE BLOOD" as they sadistically tortured hordes of cowering beastmen was one of the highlights of the DLC for me.
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>>336316087
>attack the beggar
HAVE YOU GOT A SCREW LOOSE
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>>336305515

American FrontierSouls>Science FictionSouls
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>>336316036
This. As soon as you've killed Vicar Amelia you can go to the Hunter's Nightmare and it's so early in there that you can just run past stuff and grab it.
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>>336316087
>attack the beggar
YOU HUNTERS ARE ALL THE SAME
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Is there really any point to buying the lost/uncanny versions of weapons? I dont see what the big deal is about the bloodgem slots
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>>336316551
No, that's for serious min-maxing for PvP.
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>>336316267
YOU CALL ME A BEAST. A BEAST? WHAT WOULD YOU KNOW. I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS!
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>>336316748
I was not prepared for the chalice version after what a pushover the base game AB was.
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>>336316551
Waning bloodgems are trash so it's just a case of trying to get a weapon with two radials and a triangular if that's not the default.
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>>336316830
no one is
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>>336304886
I've been saying this for days dont waste your breath PCucks are super fuckijg salty about Bloodborne never ever coming to PC so they try to make DaS3 seem like hot shit except it still is worst then 1.
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>>336306286
except for Djura, massive faggot he is

BEASTS ARE INNOCENT DINDU NUFFIN KILL DARREN WILSON
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>>336316267
https://youtu.be/7e8udyfV91U?t=2m24s

I needed to hear it again.
All of the VA in this game is top-tier.
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Whats a good way to get ritual blood 4? Im trying to save up so I can enter the Lorian Chalice and grab the beast claw weapon
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>>336314421
Also, what stats to look for in attire? like on what criteria should i decide whether x is better than y
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>>336317053
Go through a depth 3 chalice and loot it. Make sure to kill any Snatchers.

>>336317076
Doesn't really matter, wear what you like unless you're looking for something specific like poison resistance.
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>>336316975
Yeah, he really needed to get knocked off that tower.
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Awooo
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>>336317076
just like Dark Souls 3, the defense stats do not fucking matter whatsoever.

Either wear shit for resistances to status effects or wear shit for fashion. the only remotely useful defensive stat is Lightning and that's for one fucking boss.
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>>336316975
Djura's whole arc is "I'm a guilt-ridden idiot please murder my face"

>>336317498
Well, two, if Loran Darkbeast counts.

That fucking horrible creature. Either stunlock to death or welcome to AOE City, punk.
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>>336317076
depends on what you're fighting

fire for hotdog, laurence, keeper of the old lords
bolt for abhorrent beast, loran darkbeast
blood for headless bloodletting beast, maria, queen yharnam
basically physical defense and arcane for every other boss
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I want to fuck the doll.
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>>336305770

I'd prefer the latter. We dont need another grimy and bleak adventure through another uninhabitable region. Dead space also exists already.
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I want to do things with Kos
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>>336317861

>fucking doll
>ever

BEAST! FOUL BEAST!
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>>336317460
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>>336316975
>>336317606

No, his whole point is that there has been enough killing in general over this retarded shit

Unknowingly he is the only NPC that goes against the Moon Presence who just wants the hunt to go on forever
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>>336315149
>>336315934
>>336316207
The beast cutter really isn't that good. It's terrible in pvp unless your opponents are retarded because even though it has huge range with it's whip form, it's slow as shit and incredibly easy to dodge. It's slightly decent in pve.
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I hope that twitter pic from awhile ago means more BB DLC.
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>>336318341
Fun as heck tho.
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>>336304880
>>336305119
>they didn't kill the executioner the first time they came across it
Casuals
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>Tfw DS3 weapons feel like a step back after experiencing the glory of trick weapons
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>>336318369
That's just not happening, dude.
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>>336317460
Worst fight in the game.
>go through his entire stupid gauntlet that takes 5 minutes
>drop down to fight the boss
>one shot by arcane AoE
>didn't git gud
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>>336311930
just stick to DS if you wanna transform every other From game into it
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>>336318507
I just found it weird the way they showed the cases
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>>336318557
Are you fucking retarded or something, that fight is incredible, it's one of the best fights in the entire series. It's the only fight like it in the entire series; you're not just getting a crazy monologue from an important NPC the entire time, but you've actually got to chase and hold the fucker down before he'll finally fight you
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>>336312556

You can ALWAYS roll out after the second hit. The problem is from idiots that try to spam r1 in retaliation.
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>>336318860
It's literally the Bed of Chaos of Bloodborne. Don't defend it.
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