Is it too late to save The Star Fox franchise?
>>336299379
Does it even need saving?
>>336299379
source?
It's too late to save Nintendo
>>336300021
Honestly looks like a recolor of Robin Hood
It already was saved.
>>336300021
It's just an edit of pic related.
>>336300283
so why's this getting such mediocre reviews? I haven't bought anything for my Wii U in a long time and I haven't been following anything coming out on it.
>>336300283
>middling reviews
>unimpressive sales
>>336299379
Is too late to save Nintendo in general.
>>336301072
See you in another 10 years space fox
>>336301151
Disney will buy them and then every Nintendo game will have GOTG / Reddit-tier humor.
>>336300580
>>336301072
Welcome to neo-nintendo.
It always get mediocre reviews, the games are still good.
Star Fox Zero just suffers from the same shit that fucked nintendo for the passed 10 years, peripheral based gameplay, its just unlike wagglan controls which sold mainly to parents for being a more 'active' gameplay style, tablet controls sells to no one.
Save it from what?
Zero, whether you like the gyro or not, is the true successor to 64 and shows that Star Fox can have a future
All we need a new game improving what Star Fox Zero did with more creativity
>>336300283
>We FINALLY get a return to form Star a Fox game
>It's actually pretty good, despite being a little too linear and heavily reliant on all-range mode(but I actually like All-range mode missions in this game so it's ok, bosses are fun as hell too)
>The StarFox universe is back at square one ready for a sequel
>It will never get a sequel because it has been critically panned by mainstream reviewers and ecelebs
>It will sell like shit because of these faggots
Just kill me already senpai
what about that new fan-made youtube series based on starfox? looks good, might stir up interest for the original franchise.
>>336301496
>Wagglin
People are real shit stains these days
The precise aiming is really helpful with the design that's built on accuracy but NOOOOOOO, they have to have a bitch fit because they don't want to try a different control scheme
>>336301692
People actually complained about All Range mode?
All range Landmaster was the best shit ever
All it needs is a sequel that's more creative and add some sort of handholding for the bitches that can't learn precise aiming
>>336303213
>All range Landmaster was the best shit ever
mah nigga
>>336301692
Nintendo should have made a better game.
>>336302876
It has more views than the official Star Fox Tue in cartoon, and in less time.
I think it's clear that the problem with Star Fox Is and always has been been Nintendo.
>>336304185
>Fan made animation
There was already hype built up for this thing long before the official animated short ever released. Vinny and a few other popular streamers were the reason why there was so much attention to this in the first place. The fan-made animation was bound to get more views in the first place because a lot of people were already aware that it was in development. I don't see what was the point of bringing it up in the first place to justify your already vague-as-hell argument.
>>336303620
Better how?
It's a safe put to see how people feel
As a Star Fox game, it's ducking fantastic
It's the controls and the fact that it's adross that people are whinning, and that's something that could easily be fixed in a sequel
And the controls aren't even bad, people fuckinng suck
>>336304185
>I think it's clear that the problem with Star Fox Is and always has been been Nintendo.
Star Fox was fine until Krystal turned up and filled the fanbase with furfags who only cared about their shitty donut steel.
>>336304185
Fanmade furbait fanfiction gets more views than official short
Oh geez I wonder why
>>336305259
>Star Fox was mediocre until Krystal turned up and filled the fanbase with furfags who only cared about their shitty donut steel.
Fixed
No wait
>Star Fox was mediocre before and after Krystal turned up and filled the fanbase with furfags who only cared about their shitty donut steel.
There we go.
>>336305442
>mediocre
The first two games were fantastic, everyone agrees on that. It wasn't until Krystal the sparkledog turned up when the series took a dive in quality.
>>336305442
t. gay furfag
>>336305259
Holy shit you're retarded, it always had furfags.
Why are people so autistic about fucking krystal?
>tfw I really like Star Fox Zero
All it really needs is a few more levels. A shame the story doesn't really go anywhere, too
>>336305259
Retard. Zero is a shit game, and Krystal's not in it, proving your scapegoat all wrong.
>ignoring the large gay furry following Star fox has, especially for fox and wolf, krystal being fox's love interest remainign the biggest reason they hate her since she BTFO their gay fanons of fox being gay
>mfw STILL getting triggered for over 10 years
>>336299516
fpbp
>>336299516
Fuck yeah.
The series kinda sucks.
>>336306454
>Zero is a shit game
Zero is the best Star Fox game since 64. Just because your autistic waifu isn't in it doesn't make it shit.
>>336300283
>3 hour mediocre game
>saved
Not very high hopes for the series, huh?
>>336306609
then what is worth saving if the series is shit?
>>336300283
>It was already saved.
>>336299379
You can't save what has always been shit.
Just play melee.
It's literally the sequel star fox deserves.
>>336300580
Nu Males can't into controls because they need a hand free to stroke their beards.
>>336306691
Oh please, Zero has a lot of problems and it has nothing to do with the lack of Krystal
>>336306792
But it's just as fast as 64, minus the gyrowing section.
And also the gamepad was used perfectly. People who don't like the gyro aiming need to choose a different platform, like the Casual Station 4. The gyro aiming was a perfect fit for Star Fox and Splatoon.
>>336307149
>Zero has a lot of problems
No, you have problems with Zero. There's a difference.
>>336305259
>being this retarded
>>336307203
I love it. People who like the game seem to be under the notion that people who don't found the controls too hard, and not just fucking annoying.
>>336307290
>MUH CONTROLS
Stay retarded. there are more problems to this game besides that
>>336305259
I feel like people say this just for the (You)'s, nobody is this retarded.
>>336306778
If these guys can do more episodes of this show then I will consider Star Fox at least partially saved, but no thanks to Nintendo.
>>336307665
>There are plenty of other issues
>but I won't even say any of them
Thanks anon, you've really know how to develop an argument.
>>336308185
Truly you are my nigga.
>>336308185
m..more please
>>336299379
Yeah. Unless they do a big reboot that changes everything that everyone likes.
>>336306792
Spot on. I feel like the game is fun in spite of that though.
>>336308185
Wow actual good krystal art, saved.
why must every fucking starfox thread turn into krystalfags whining and spamming fanart of her
>>336308185
post more krystal booty
>>336308146
>only one ending despite multiple routes
>no online despite command and Guard having it
>no pro controller support
>less levels than 64
>STILL fully priced
>chickenwalker and stealth robot ruins the pacing of the game
>arwing is too slow except one level
>too much tutorials
>shit graphics, and bad ground textures
>story is rehashed of 64
>all bosses are all-range
>Katt and bill are even more useless
>getting medals only unlocks sound test and amiibo arwings
There you go, asshole
>inb4 these don't count
>inb4 git gud
>>336308808
I guess you could say Starfox isKursed
>>336308808
pretty much literally all there is to talk about. i mean, if the game was so good why arnt people going "well, in this section, how did you xxxxx" "is there a better way to beat xxxxx" "where is this last unlock". but no ones actually playing it, or if they did, they finished it ages ago and havent touched it sense. so. thats all thats left. furry titties and ass.
but really. people are going to tell you "it was fun", but note WHAT part was fun is ever mentioned? because it was all just, really, average.
>>336308808
nothing left to talk about, so may as well jack off
>>336301072
So, you do believe in reviews?
>>336308808
Because no one can have a Star Fox thread without krystalfags kicking the door down, crying because she got retconned out of the series and flooding the thread with shitty furfag art.
>>336308053
That fox died
post more Krystal
>>336309183
This is one instance where I advocate usingTumblr
Iateacrayon has huge ass albums of really any fictional character.
Post moreslippy
>>336309348
doing god's work here, anon
>>336309434
>>336309350
I'm not a redditor or tumblrite you fag, you go there and get it
>>336309348
continue
>>336309941
dat's one nice butt
Have some lewd krystal. Not blue-board lewd, either. Some shitty art in there, but a lot of it is quite solid.Just like my dick
https://mega.nz/#!M8J1XABQ!Yt2liTWX_7CiSCzq0RMmDlZiGyK3tdNIs6uzk28zOUk
>>336310141
I aint downloading your dolphin porn, nigga
>>336310121
when she takes a shit does she have to cut out the fur that the shit has clumped around?
>>336310214
>Passing up quality Krystal porn in the rare event it's dolphin porn
>>336309168
Nah i'm pretty sure even when they don't show up the thread derails to one line ALL RANGE MODE avatarfag memes or gay starfox/starwolf crew lewds.
>>336309941
>>336308185
More like dis
>>336306792
I love how Assault babbies and GX babbies are cut from the same cloth
Here's hoping the next F-Zero is a throwback as well
I'm just here for the Krystal ass.
Post Wolf
>>336310321
>I love how Assault babbies and GX babbies are cut from the same cloth
Explain.
Reboot the series with a human cast. Get rid of the rails.
Fuck this degenerate furry trash.
A human cast is much more versatile and relatable. You can add love interests, the human face is more expressive, less jokey. Never having played star fox have I thought "hmm I wish I could see more of these animals". It's all about the arwings. How about make arwings upgradeable?
I can't even begin to comprehend how a society works where predatory animals like falcons and foxes work with non-predatory ones.
Talking animals aren't really memorable unless were talking about being "so fucking stupid" memorable. Good design and writing can make any human character memorable, and they have all the added benefits that I mentioned before.
>>336306792
you wanted a racing game?
cancer
>>336311025
Then it just becomes like every other sci-fi out there with snubfighter combat. SW, BSG, ST, etc.
>>336311153
Can't tell if you're joking or retarded.
>>336311025
>Reboot the series with a human cast. Get rid of the rails.
Why even call it Star Fox if you literally aren't going to have any of the things that makes it Star Fox? Go find your own game.
>>336311025
This is bait but in the off chance that you're serious, you sound like the average Kotaku/Polygon/Destructoid reviewer who has never played Star Fox in his life and doesn't get it.
The animals aren't supposed to be taken seriously and neither is most of the dialogue or the story, it's all hammy tongue-in cheek nonsense and all of your suggestions about how to improve the series reek of the stale homogenization that is infesting the modern games industry.
Enjoy your (You)
>>336311025
smashfags would kill themselves if the characters changed.
>>336311250
>wants racingshit
>calls others retarded
what a cuck
>>336310545
Both games are steps down from their predecessors, and yet are worshiped by kids who grew up on the Gamecube. It's the same for Sunshine/Double Dash fans as well.
>>336306609
It always kinda sucked.
Honestly, I think in the alternate universe where Starfox 2 was released, Starfox became a bigger Nintendo franchise.
Then again, Star Fox is a game you can beat in a couple hours, and has always been that way.
How do you save a series like that? Pad in an extra 60 more hours? Add fetch quests? Free-roam with no purpose?
I'm running out of Krystal butt picswhere she's wearing clothes
>>336311429
>gx was a step down
>>336310505
>krystal genderswaps about as rare as renamon ones
>never ever remotely close to the quality either
Posting Krystal
>>336311568
the problem is that nobody wants a quick arcade style shooter that's easy to play and hard to master, and they definitely don't want to shell out 60 bucks for a few hours of content like they would during the N64 days.
They want an open world game with forced romance options, fetch quests, dlc, affinity missions, and a shitty lifeless world to drive your uselessly upgraded spaceship around for hundreds of hours.
>>336300580
Its the Platinum Curse. Platinum makes really great games that almost always get mediocre reviews or just don't sell.
>>336311429
How is GX a step down in any conceivable way? It has more content, more racers while including every single one from before, much tighter controls, a hard-ass-balls single player story mode, graphics that hold up even today, and (arguably) better music. X is a great game, but GX improved on everything in a meaningful way. You'd have to be some sort of contrarian to think otherwise.
>>336311392
Thanks for the engaging buzz words.
>>336308926
these are the ones I agree with
>only one ending despite multiple routes
>no online
>less FULL levels than 64
>stealth robot ruin pacing (notice how I didn't say chickenwalker)
>all bosses are in all ranged
Rebuttal to your other arguments
>no pro controller support
The game is designed around the gamepad in mind, there's no way around this unless you're playing coop. I'm just going to assume you want traditional Starfox controls like in 64, but I'm going to counterargue by saying that if it did have traditional controls, the game would've felt a lot more bland since it is a cookie cutter Star Fox 64 game with enhanced visuals and nothing really unique to offer.
>STILL fully priced
I agree the game's lacking in content, but 64 was around $50 at launch and a single run lasted you less than an hour, at least 2 hours if you're doing every planet. Zero is also the same price, difference here is that Zero comes with another game, Star Fox Guard.
>>lol tower defense not a star fox gaem :^^^^)
You're getting a game that has arguably more replayability than Zero because of the online multiplayer, but I haven't even touched that game yet so I can't really prove much
>Chickenbot ruins pacing
Disagreed. It takes less than 2 seconds to transform into it and vice versa. Granted there are some stages that require you to be the chickenwalker like the Andross fight or the second level, but I wouldn't say it breaks the pacing at all. The Gyrowing doesn't deserve to exist tho.
>Arwing is too slow
I love it when people say this. I've been playing 64 and Zero back to back and they're nearly identical in speed. The difference is that ironically enough Zero is faster because you have a much less limited boost meter, so you could boost and somersault as much as you want. In 64, if you boost for more than 2 seconds, you have to wait an eternity just to wait for the boost meter to recover or even boost again.
(I've reached word limit, I'll continue in second post)
>>336311823
It's funny that you mention that. I streamed Rogue Squadron (PC version) recently, and finished the campaign in 3 hours. I couldn't believe it was that short--I always thought it was at least 10 to finish the campaign.
That said, most of the time I spent on it as a kid on the N64 was working towards unlocking more content by obtaining gold medals. The quick and dirty stream playthrough was almost all bronze and silver.
>>336312120
>Thanks for the engaging buzz words.
what did he mean by this?
>>336311025
I say reboot it and make it more like a rpg. Think Mass Effect but in the SF universe. Could be pretty cool.
>>336312143
I know it's only in 2 levels but Direct I really feels like Miyamoto's Jar Jar Binx.
>Nobody asked for it
>Nobody wanted it
>But fuck you let's make him the secret vehicle anyway
>>336299379
This pic is pretty autistic, but the cool kind of autistic, like Isaac Newton.
>>336311025
>the human face is more expressive, less jokey
This is false, more subjective than anything and I've seen this bait posted everywhere.
>I can't even begin to comprehend how a society works where predatory animals like falcons and foxes work with non-predatory ones.
>I can't comprehend fiction or fantasy. Fiction and fantasy must be bounded by logic of the real world.
>What is Anthropomorphism.
>Talking animals aren't really memorable unless were talking about being "so fucking stupid" memorable.
>M-m-muh opinions.
>>336311656
>>336312120
>destroys the aesthetic that made the first two games memorable
>takes the "gotta go fast" aspect way too far and turns the game into an exercise in exploiting physics quirks rather than knowing how to manage your speed in order to make turns and risky jumps
>shitty music
>>336312276
videogames are unfortunately moving away from that direction. the only short games you'll be seeing from now on after nintendo gets the message are movie games like the order.
I HAVE ONE PROBLEM WITH STAR FOX ZERO
WE CAN PLAY WITH THE RETRO ARWING
WE CAN PLAY WITH THE BLACK ARWING
WHY ARE WE NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY IN WOLFEN SHIPS WITH THEIR OWN ATTRIBUTES? OR EVEN SPECIAL MISSIONS AS STAR WOLF? ALL THE MODELS ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE GAME FULLY FUNCTIONAL
>>336306719
Star Fox 64 only takes about 90 minutes to beat, and nobody complained.
Why?
Because it's designed to be replayed for high scores and medals.
JUST LIKE STAR FOX ZERO.
Why are people complaining?
Zero looks bland as fuck. Does it have any of the weirdness that made 64 great?
>>336312476
nigga almost solved the mystery of alchemy with his autism
>>336311025
Tips for 370 hits on Corneria 2?
I once got what would've been enough hits, but my teammates bailed because I also went for the medal for breaking the Gigarilla's chest and hands. Now I can't get as many hits as I needed on the first phase. I'm pretty sure I'm killing just about everything.
>>336312478
reminds me of the highest downloaded skin for san andreas. a white cj skin. over 300,000 people were so buttflustered about playing a black guy in a gang banging sim, they couldnt play it till they had a white protag. heh.
>>336312626
It's 2016 and it costs $60.
No game at that price should be less than 10 hours long.
>make a kids videogame full of cutsey creatures
>put a note in the instruction manual that they had their legs removed to better suit the extreme g-forces of jet fighting
>>336312871
If you're willing to throw down $60 on it you should be willing to unlock every area and scenario in the game and work towards getting all the medals for them.
If you're the type of person to just beat a game once and toss it aside, especially a game like this, you're probably not avid enough to be spending $60 on any game in the first place.
>>336312871
the original starfox cost 104$ with inflation accounted for
>>336312871
Star Fox 64 cost $60 when it was new.
>>336312626
I can get a 12 hour AAA game on the PS4 with 10x better graphics and solid gameplay for $40
Or a 5 hour AAA game with sub PS3 graphics, annoying gimmick gameplay and controls for $60
It's called getting value for your money and not supporting fucking MORONIC business practice.
>>336312548
>destroys the aesthetic that made the first two games memorable
Could you elaborate? Because you realize F-Zero X's visuals were pure featureless, garbage that sacrificed almost everything on a technical level so that it could have 60 fps? Unless you're talking about the shit in the official art. In which case, I'm pretty sure that carried over just fine.
>turns the game into an exercise in exploiting physics quirks
I don't see how this doesn't apply to X, since it was equally rife with physics quirks. And as far as risky jumps go, that's something that really only applies to the original F-Zero and was abandoned when it went to 3D with X, but you've made a special point to pin it on GX.
>shitty music
shitty opinion
Corneria needs to spend more on defense. They can't rely on Fox to save them forever.
>>336312626
Star Fox 64 came with a rumble pak.
>>336313252
i can get a steak at a steak house, or the same amount of meat from macdonalds for a fraction of the cost. fuck classy restaurants. its all meat at the end.
>>336313349
Star Fox Zero came with a jimmy rustler, it seems.
>>336303620
>fanmade cartoon surpassed official one
LOL
>>336313409
>it's another shitty and idiotic food analogy on /v/
Oh boy...
>>336312785
>Searches up the skins
>Isn't lying
Holy fuck I'm dying. People were this ass blasted over the protag being black?
It's because Nintendo has forgotten the one fundamental basic for making stories interesting for kids.
You can show kids anything as long as it has a happy ending.
I mean fucking Yu Gi Oh is literally about people committing genocide using card games now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEpEZ2E8y-Q
>>336313559
yep. gotta make it easy to understand for the plebblings. sheer time played isnt the only indicator of a games worth, or morrowind would be 50,000$ and counter strike would be about 50 cents.
>>336308808
I know right, why can't we get some Miyu and Fay in here?
>too many tutorials
What tutorials, you mean the mandatory one at the very beginning of the game while the rest of them are optional and hidden away in training mode? This game has just as many mandatory tutorials as 64. Considering the unconventional control scheme, I'm surprised they didn't even make the training mode tutorials mandatory.
>shitty graphics and bad ground textures
Yeah the textures aren't really the best, but I really don't know what you were expecting from a Wii U game. The game looks pretty good desu senpai, but that's probably because I'm not some graphix whore.
>story is rehashed from 64
Last star fox game that tried to have a competent story was Command, we both know how that went right? I don't see the reason why a Star Fox game should have a grandiose story with a reimagining, story was never a selling point of Star fox in the first place.
>Katt and Bill are even more useless
I forgot to add this to the "I agree" list
>getting medals only unlock a sound test and amiibo arwings
The medals unlock the amiibo arwings AND a new title screen. You unlock sound test by beating arcade mode. I don't even know how you missed thisunless you didn't play the game and is just a shitposter regurgitating the opinions of 64 purists. 64 didn't have much of a completion bonus if we're going to be honest, you unlock a harder mode to complete and just play as Fox in shades? Just an aesthetic change, sounds a lot like Zero's amiibo unlocks, except those made a tiny bit more substantial difference. You also unlock access to some crappy on foot multiplayer that is inferior to the Landmaster and Arwing and therefore, fucking useless?
>>336313271
I love the feeling of isolation the first two games give you. GX is full of clutter and buildings and shit, and I get that it's more realistic and you're supposed to be in a racing tournament, but OG and X give this feeling that you're truly alone on the track, just you and the other racers. Also, those two games had a much more diverse color scheme than X did
>that's something that really only applies to the original F-Zero
And it's something I want to see come back
>shitty opinion
Give me some GX tracks that rival these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wckFsik_vU8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aujgCKftKq8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBuXfcFKAlo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5oXeWglbCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eklH1GxW36s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D3DzFKIffE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvbQcO1yA64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyWa1U6T1DY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3J6V0lCLg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4nzeEfill8
>>336314203
Continued here >>336312143
>>336299379
the game is good and you all fuckers + the reviewers scared the fuck out of me about it being an unplayable mess (it reached my country over a week after it was released in the USA, beat it this afternoon)
if Guard is also good it was worth it.
also, fuck furry shit, especially if it looks Disney made
>>336311568
>How do you save a series like that? Pad in an extra 60 more hours? Add fetch quests? Free-roam with no purpose?
Honestly? Yeah, you experiment. Maybe not exactly like this, but you gotta extend the game beyond its original design. Imagine if Mario never evolved beyond running up inclines and jumping over barrels, or if ANY of Nintendo's plethora of other IPs never progressed beyond being 2D platformers (Donkey Kong, Metroid, and Kirby all started out as such, and yet some of their most beloved games aren't 2D platformers).
Star Fox fans have this stupid tendency to disregard Nintendo's generations-old legacy of innovating their games and characters. Maybe the design choices don't always go over too well, but Nintendo's never going to NOT innovate, which is why Miyamoto gave everyone Star Fox 64.5 BUT shoved in his gamepad gimmicks. Spergs like to give a lot of shit to games like Assault, but it seriously was just Star Fox's natural progression to do on-foot stuff. Yeah, the execution was flawed, but the multiplayer was phenomenal (and it's obvious people like >>336311429 didn't have any friends during the GameCube era), and it just makes fucking sense that a game about mercenaries would eventually have the characters doing things outside of their cockpits.
You can still make great Star Fox games with on-rails Arwing action, but that can't be all there is to the game. We're eventually going to need different playable characters with different stats on their vehicles. We're going to need deeper exploration so Lylat's destinations aren't so oversimplified as just "The ____ Planet". We're going to need character arcs and development so you might actually be concerned that a character might actually die. We're going to need an antagonist that isn't Andross for the tenth fucking time. We're pretty much going to need Nintendo to stop listening to the "fans" who want to constantly keep shit stuck in the 90s. If I wanted to play 64 again, I would just do it.
Would you impregnate Krystal and take responsibility?
>>336313687
pretty much. im sure SOME of those downloads are for roleplaying or other various modding reason, and not just, "so hes not black", but otherwise...the vast majority was probably just exactly that. hilarious to think that some people are just so hilariously racist they cant enjoy it till its been changed in a singular detail
post more Krystal
If they do make a new one they should focus more on one on one dogfights. That fight with Wolf was fucking hype.
>>336314537Yes
>>336315163
No
I honestly did not play much, if any Star Fox when I was a kid. Is the new one worth checking out since I don't have a solid opinion on the series?
>>336301496
>>336303025
>force your customers to buy extra unnecessary shit because some old poisonous asshole forces everyone to 'innovate'
Its liberal logic. Keep changing shit regardless of how good it worked before. There was nothing wrong with Star Fox 64's control scheme.
Honestly, the big three are all pieces of shit but Nintendo is the one that barely releases any games for their hardware before moving on to the next gimmicky bullshit. Its what, one major Zelda per generation?
post krystal butt
>>336315716
You have no expectations whatsoever so you'll probably enjoy it a lot more and those who've played 64 before Zero. Just approach with an open mind if you do end up buying it. Even if you don't like the game, you get a cute little tower defense game that has just as much replay value as Zero.
>>336314258
>I love the feeling of isolation the first two games give you.
See image.
>Also, those two games had a much more diverse color scheme than X did.
I'm going to assume you meant to say GX, in which case, that is completely false. F-Zero GX is extremely colorful and has just as diverse settings as the original.
>Mute City
>Big Blue
>Port Town
>Lightning
>Aeropolis
>Casino
>Firefield
>Sand Ocean
>Green Plant
>Phantom Road
>All of the one-off themes from the AX tracks and story mode.
>music
I'm not going to bother linking specific tracks because your counter will be that you simply don't like them. Instead, I'd like to bring attention to the fact that F-Zero GX used music in an extremely satisfying manner with how it saves the final climactic verse of a music track for the final lap of a race. Not only that, but every one of the 40 characters has their own theme song that plays in the character viewer (just one of the many unnecessary extra features that pushes that game above and beyond)
I'd also like to readdress a point you made earlier about the gameplay.
>knowing how to manage your speed in order to make turns
That is bullshit. Every single F-Zero game can be beaten with out the need to slow down and is ideally done so.
>>336314203
Mario Kart looks amazing fuck this trash, SF64 was a technical achivement atleast graphically in the 90's, this one is just a nostalgia fueled bastardized trip down memory lane, hope it sells like shit so I can buy it for cheap in a few months
>>336316247
F-Zero X also had this sick Judge Dredd 2000AD aesthetic while GX was sterile and looked more like Space Channel Five.
>>336314203
Mario Kart looks amazing fuck this trash, SF64 was a technical achivement atleast graphically in the 90's, this one is just a nostalgia fueled bastardized trip down memory lane, hope it sells like shit so I can buy it for cheap in a few months, I dont ser myself replaying this like I did 64 and Assault (I enjoyed it but w.e)
sf as a franchise is a one trick pony
Don't mind me. Just posting the better 3D SHMUP.
>>336312143
Motion controls aren't new or revolutionary shits been going on since the dreamcast but really longer. The gamepad is a clunky turd that forces you to look off screen onto a shitter screen without any useful touch screen interaction
>>336315948
>tagged "Wolf and Leon discuss life"
Would be interesting to see that.
>>336316494
You're basing this completely on official art that's used only in the character select screen and title screen.
Meanwhile, F-Zero GX manages to
1.) Have a story mode that fleshes out what the world of F-Zero is actually like in the context of the actual game
2.) Have race tracks that represent the world it's supposed to take place in (the kind that you're arguing is inferior)
In any case, I'm not sure how GX ruins that Dredd image for you. We still see the same world that's filled with filth, crime and mutant freaks. It's much more representative of that old Captain Falcon comic than the previous games ever were.
>>336316471
>>336316572
Anon got so mad he had to reply twice. Also
>Assault
>Good graphics compared to Adventures
Every grafixwhore needs to be gassed.
As for your one trick pony statement Zero is exactly that, except it isn't technical prowess, it's on a more gimmick-ish side where it focuses asymmetric gameplay and utilizing the underutilized gamepad to the fullest.
>>336316594
This isn't panzer dragoon
>>336317062
>>336316594
Omega Boost motherfuckers.
>>336316948
The music only fire field Gx feels like judge dredd
Honestly Zero is damn good. The only thing that didn't really work was the gyrowing.
>>336314520
This anon speaks the truth.
>>336317276
I was unaware that Judge Dredd, a comic book and, at the time, one shitty movie, even had music that could be aesthetically linked to it.
>>336317425
Is it weird that I actually liked the gyrowing?
>>336299379
YIOFF IN HELL FUR FAG NIOGER! FGGO DROWN IN A FUCKING LAKE
>>336301692
It'll sell like shit because it's an on rails shooter in 2016. It's a niche, antiquated genre.
The only reason it's getting all of this attention is because of the series's longevity and popularity from decades ago while better rail shooters like S&P rot.
>>336317513
You know how you can read something and get a picture from it? You can also kinda imagine what kinda music would be playing in the story as well
>>336310505
It's just bro stuff you know?
>>336317974
You know, I had this feeling that your preferences for the previous F-Zero games were all based on strong attachment to your personal canon or what "F-Zero is SUPPOSED to be", and this kind of points in that direction really hard.
>>336317974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rVFi6qkPHE
Also Anthrax made several songs based on the comic.
>>336299379
Star Fox 69/100
Its getting popular again, there was recently a video put out summarizing the old canon in 3 minutes, its pretty neat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiTdcESlGbo
Nintendo probably already pulled the plug though because of shit sales for Zero
maybe if they port it to NX with regular controls it would fare better
>>336311025
you're such a fucking idiot. animals can be shown to be just as expressive as humans
>>336318261
Oh no I don't care either way, I was just kinda pointing out example of no more judge dredd feeling.
>>336318587
>f-zero
>judge dredd feeling
what
>>336318475
cat faces are much more similar to human faces than dog/wolf/fox faces, that is why cat reaction images are such a big meme.
>>336303025
You know what was cool? Playing video games by pushing buttons on a controller.
>>336314520
I agree with everything you're saying, but gyro controls were still an idiotic decision.
If you're going to experiment with your series, make sure it's a feature that can be replicated and expanded upon for the sequel, and not something that's going to be dumped when the next iteration of hardware inevitable drops the gimmick. Motion controls were something that just about the entire god damn game industry experimented with, and ultimately decided was a waste and moved on.
...Of course, if the NX could have motion controls for all we know, but god knows I'm not buying it if does.
>>336310505
but why?
>>336318270
>Fox pulled a John Lennon and put his girlfriend in the group
>The group falls apart soon after..
>>336317809
No. I just feel it didn't quite work. Wish they used the roadmaster instead.
Think Zero will do well enough to get a sequel?
>>336319494
No.
>>336302539
>this guy knows that command was one of the best entries
>>336319262
>Its the anon says krystal is yoko Ono in the another krystal thread for the millionth time episode.
>>336319494
Maybe.
>>336318462
And extra levels
>>336319494
I heard it bombed very badly in Japan, even W101 and KOWASHITAI sold better over there. Same with Europe. Don't know about the Us, but I don't see it selling all that well either
Supposedly Star Fox Zero is doing much better in the states financially than in Moonland. Which is actually fairly typical of Nintendo games.
>>336319494
You know that jumpsuit is dumb.
>>336316948
First off, you're now arguing with a completely different person now. I left after my last post to go take a shower and get something to eat.
Also, I'm not saying worldbuilding and detail = bad, I'm saying I don't like the claustrophobic feeling of GX. OG F-Zero has greatly detailed backgrounds that capture the feel of each world pretty fucking well.
Would you rather have tribal or jumpsuit Krystal?
So is Miyamoto a fan of Jim Henson's works and Thunderbirds or something?
>>336320527
I really like both.
>>336320394
>>336320527
>>336320527
Well the tribal outfit wouldn't be practical in the pilot of a stunt fighter.
>>336320538
Yeah, that's exactly the reason why the N64 ones have that janky mouth movement.. well, that's what Miyamoto stated anyway.
>>336320636
>dem tits
more
>>336300283
why is it called zero again?
>>336320527
Tribal because she's like 90% naked
>>336320723
>>336299379
It has bee, too late since a decade.
>>336320802
She belongs naked, I swear.
>>336320774
Because Miyamoto liked the look of the kanji for zero
>>336320802
>>336320864
Wonder how much different that game would have been if she had a bigger role
>>336320964
>Earl Grey
soo Krystal's a pleb?
>>336321025
I'd love to see her with bigger rolls, if you know what I mean.
>>336320948
does it go with the theme of the game as well?
>>336320802
one mentally retarded fetish is enough, but a foot fetish too?
>>336320964
>Earl Grey
>Not Breakfast tea.
>>336321251
word
If they do make a sequel, they really should make incorporate Miyu and Fay. Also more Dogfights. And bring back Katina and Aquas.
>>336321251
Assam is superior.
>>336311025
This man knows what he's talking about. Remove furries, focus on solid and interesting gameplay. Suddenly every single problem with Star Fox is fixed.
>>336321095
Welp folks, he asked for it.
>>336321212
It was the only SFW stuff of her I had sitting in the folder
>Those Dogfights with Star Wolf.
>That Attack Carrier Fight
>Taking down the Star Destroyer from the inside.
Not gonna lie, the game had some genuinely hype moments.
>>336321468
Stop. Post actual sexy naked krystal not this garbage
>>336321468
unf, just imagine what she could do to a toilet bowl.
>>336321884
>>336321468
Still don't know how to feel about this one (the game I mean)
>Guard is better than the main game.
>>336322207
>Event Horizon
We're were going we don't need eyes.
>>336320864
Those knocked out lizards look better than Krystal
>>336322661
Because furries can't make shit that's not suggestive
>>336322769
She has her foot right on his slit
You know the Arwing Walker mode should have looked more Robotech and less like poultry.
>>336322905
Or a fox, like how Star Wolf got wolves
>>336322905
It's been a chicken since Star Fox 2 though. it's not Nintendo's fault Platinum decided to throw a Bladewolf cameo in there.
>>336322905
>Robotech.
Whats the best boss battle in the series?
>>336318279
It won't be much longer before Star Fox Zero's critic score drops below Star Fox Assault's, and its user score drops below Star Fox Adventures'.
>>336323452
Honestly I think that Zero is better than Assault.
>>336319494
No. Maybe Star Fox will get another revival in 10 years, though.Unless Miyamoto croaks and the new creative director at Nintendo says he wants a Star Fox game right away and doesn't want any controller gimmicks this time.
>>336323518
The biggest point against Assault was the amount of damn land missions , and the very low amount of arwing stuff
Yep, it'll be what it is and Nintendo won't change it for anyone.
>>336320394
C'mon now familia, you know you want toworshipit.
>>336320527
The jumpsuit is more fitting for Krystal in a sci-fi setting, but the tribal costume is the Star Fox equivalent to Princess Leia's slave bikini. Both are great for different reasons and are best fit for different scenarios.
>>336323617
>Too much land missions
It was an even spilt, not even 50/50 because only 3 were pure land missions
>>336323778
Fuck.more
>>336321212
There's nothing wrong with seeing Krystal's feet in this context. She's wearing a swimsuit.
>>336321034
It's Picard's favorite though.
>>336323518
Assault had GOAT multiplayer and therefore much better longevity than Zero.
>>336324016
>>336320964
>>336320802
I wonder if they would make her not british in the new game
