I give up. It's too fucking hard.
I hate the Ninja Gaiden games and I hate Nioh.
You gotta be autistic to enjoy shit like this.
it's not even hard, just a bit of getting used to the basics at first then it's easy mode
soulsbabby/bloodbabby detected
entry level 'hard' games, all of them
>>336285358
>he's not autistic
>>336286440
Oh fuck off M8
Souls games are mostly solid games, and I like Ni-oh fine. There's even plenty of shit that makes it easier in souls in places, like how easy it is to stunlock bosses
>>336285358
>I hate it
This is fine
>It's too hard for me
This is fine
>I hate it because it's too hard for me
CASUAL PISSBABY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET OUT OF MY VIDYA GAMES YOU ARE THE REASON DEVS KEEP RUINING SHIT GO WATCH A MOVIE YOU FAGGOT
>it's to hard
>can stun lock almost every enemy
>>336286440
Kill yourself.
>>336287318
He's right though
let me guess
>runs into an enemy ambush
>dies
>didn't try to find/use the safer alternate route
>didn't try to lure/kill time from an advantageous position if sticking to the harder route
>didn't try to find shortcuts/shrines to make the harder battles easier to retry
>"it's too hard"
or did you give up after dying and punching the first enemy for 15 minutes?
>>336286616
You have to know how to play the game in order to successfully stunlock bosses though. That's the difference.
>>336285358
Ninja Gaiden stays bullshit, Nioh gets fairly easy if you figure out the rules.
>tfw symbol of conqueror
>>336287701
sup
>tfw can't stop running out of stamina
I don't even know what I'm doing wrong in particular, I just can't stop fucking up.
>>336287950
KI Pulse harder
what's that? the answers lies in your heart
>>336287483
Wtf lmao
>>336285358
DSP can beat it, what's your problem?
>>336287950
Press R1 after like every attack and youll be cool
>>336288189
The only thing he beat that night was his dick. He threw in the towel at Nue.
>>336288210
every combo end rather
>>336287950
Press R1 when the bar refill on your stamina gauge or when the blue particles surrounding you reach you
Guys. I need a favor. I'm going to be out of town for the next week so I can't play the demo, but I really want the mark of the conqueror. The furthest I got was to the big oni guy in the first house you can open the door to, and that was with about fifteen minutes of playtime, I'm fairly confident I can beat this game. But I can't play it. Can someone just log into my PSN and beat it for me?
I made it through Oni rape alley, but Nue is killing me. Any tips?
My shit is all broken, I am running around fighting other player's ghosts naked with two broken katanas because I donated literally everything to the shrine and didn't get any whetstones/glue.
It probably helps vs Nue because the lightning oneshots me no matter what I'm wearing.
>>336288595
You're just going to give your PSN info to some random chucklefuck on /v/?
>>336287594
I ended up mostly stunlocking the boat boss on my first run, took only one try.
I didn't read up on anything but did realize Sloth was handy, lightning swords were giving good results, and beating up stuff while they're out of Ki is instant win.
>>336288636
Stack two lightning charms and Reikan for lightning defense.
Play it safe.
Win.
>>336285358
its not really that hard once you realised the hammer can OHKO pretty much all the regular enemies
the only true unfair (ACTUALLY unfair, not 'lol git gud xD') is the part at the top of the stairs in the first area that forces you to take on 4 guys at once, which is literally impossible
>>336288747
I trust in the bond we all share as anons
>>336288841
baito, you can literally avoid like 90% of enemies just see any speed run
>>336288841
Only OHKOs the first bandits on the first stage, even 400 second-stage "endgame" damage isn't that much.
That one area:
>you can get the bow by that point
>even if you can't, as long as you don't attack the guy with his back to you you won't aggro the rest
>with corner peaking you can draw the rest of the guys 1 at a time
You're welcome laddy.
10x easier to just go the back way anyway.
>>336288841
Just use the bow nigger, anyone who rushes into the obvious trap deserves to die.
>>336288841
I thought that part was unfair as fuck, until I just went the other way and realised you later end up dropping behind that area and can pick the enemies there up one by one.
>>336288934
Well go ahead then, post it.
>burning area
>avoid flames because they're likely mortal danger that will instantly burn me to a crisp
>go all the way around through ladders, roof, and stuff
>finally reach the other side
>die
>see Spirit across the flames
>try to roll through
>passed just fine and just lost a bit of HP
>>336289532
So you agree to beat it for me?
>>336288841
I actually casually passed there quite a few times because I was too dumb to go find the alternate route you're supposed to take (found it only after I got the key)
not so bad if you just lure them one by one, I was actually shooting sloth at them just to get their attention and not waste my previous stones or arrow
>>336290472
Fuck it I have a few hours to kill. Wanna email it to me?
>>336290741
Okay, email me [email protected].
>>336290472
Why don't you just summon someone to help?
>>336290868
I'm out of town for work until the 7th
>>336291024
>work before vidya
You are not a conqueror.
>>336290868
Not that guy, but I only ever got three people summoned in level 1 after waiting ages and all 3 committed sudoku.
I don't get it the game is easier than the souls game and Bloodborne so whats the problem
>>336285358
>>336287701
Welcome to the master race
That cyclops shit is hilarious. Amrita requirements for level ups caps at 5 million and your cap for holding Amrita is 9.9 million. You can get so many levels off of those cyclops; that shit has to be fixed by the time the game comes out.
>>336291283
game plays differently and people will sooner say it's "too hard" than try to figure out how it works through a bit of playing
>>336291369
What's this?
>>336291369
it's a very ancient demo that was made for game journalists
it's probably already fixed in main game
>>336291514
Mini cyclops eat a percentage of your amrita to transform and when you kill them it gives you more amrita than taken. With amrita up gear and the lightning dog you can get shitloads of amrita off cyclops.
did you catch them all?
>>336291729
Yes
They were very easy to find
>>336291729
Yes. The most annoying one for me was the final yellow cup just because I didn't think to roll through those boxes.
>struggling in vain against the first boss
>always feels like these bosses are health sponges and I need to have perfect rolls constantly or die
>finally remember I can sprint
>running circles around the second form as I chip its health away, feeling of accomplishment soaring
>there's fucking more after
>those fucking ninjas
>that fucking cyclops
How is an alpha currently the best game of 2016?
Actually beaten Nue on the 3rd try, I can't believe how easy it was
>Nue appears
>Hit him as it stand on its hind leg
>immediately lose all it stamina
>wait wut
>quickly living weapon and start spamming square button
>Nue tried to stand on 2 leg and lost stamina again
>Living weapon finished
>Nue left about 5% of its health
>heavy attack 2 times to kill it
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>336285358
What's so hard about it, Anon? I never finished NG either, but I love this game. The difficulty is just fine, and you can level up pretty easily if you're not strong enough.
Actually, that's one of the things I really like about this game. Unlike Demon's Souls, it is actually a joy to grind amarita because of the combat system.
>>336292271
DUN DUN
>Parrying has always been the most effective way of dealing with high poise heavy hitters.
>IT DOESN'T WORK ON ONI
I'm all for Souls clones, but its like they tacked on Souls features without knowing what purpose they serve.
>>336292440
>parrying
it's not even worth the risk.
>>336289606
That's funny, because the oni don't seem to want to cross the flames at all, even if they are right across.
>>336292241
Just wait for SMTIV: Apocalypse, hoyboy.
>>336292440
Just because parries are used in a certain way in Souls doesn't mean they have to have the same function here.
>>336292440
>my magic bullet technique doesn't work on every enemy in this game therefore it's shit
It makes more sense that you can't parry oni attacks.
But where's the fucking Amrita armor
>>336292953
yeah, I never got the whole being able to parry some massive creature that's likely a hundred times stronger than you
great for those armored humans that tend to not care when you hit them
Why is spear so best?
>>336287483
>Pro tip: equip your sword
this can't be real
>>336293129
I found it nice to deal with groups (that mid stance horizontal is just great), but otherwise not too special
I can't fucking beat Nue, and I don't even know why. He seems relatively easy, with easy to dodge attacks and easy weakpoints, but I just can't get his health down before he gets mine down. Like when he shoots lightning from his mouth and you're meant to get his face, sometimes it just doesn't seem to register my hits, and I get hit by the beam first. Not blaming the game because I'll admit it's totally my fault, but fuck.
>>336293320
>and you're meant to get his face
Well you don't have to if you don't want to
>>336293320
>sometimes it just doesn't seem to register my hits,
If you think you can't hit the face just go to his side and wail on his flank. The lazer beam is a big opportunity to wail on him for a few hits whether you break his guard or not.
>>336293320
>Like when he shoots lightning from his mouth
just back away
Ni-Oh is piss easy compared to NGB and NG2.
Stay casual.
>>336293107
I mean, it's okay in some game like DMC3 or whatever where you are superhuman, but a game like Nioh seems to be a bit more down to earth.
Personally I just like the way it enhances the combat. It's a pretty good mix of reflexes and strategy, unlike DMC3 where you can literally parry every attack in the game if you have super austism reflex powers. Not that it's bad if you can do that though, I mean I always wanted to be one of those people.
>>336292440
Its almost as if you arent playing souls game
>>336293320
Just get to his left before he does the attack then hit him.
When he shakes he's about to do lightning strikes so run. He always does four lightning strikes.
If he stands up he's about to do a rolling attack. If your close hit him because you can stun lock him. If you're too far get out of the way and don't go behind him. His rolling attack leaves a trail of lightning attacks behind him. When his stamina goes in the red use your spirit animal and stun lock his ass.
Just keep your distance and be patient and you'll beat him.
>>336285358
>I didnt level heart, the post
its like you never played a souls game before
>>336293973
I didn't level heart either, and still didn't have issues
Every single criticism I see is
"This game is shit because it dont play like a souls game, therefore the mechanics are bugged and janky"
Is there a more cancerous fanbase than souls faggots?
>>336285358
>there are people on /v/ right now that summoned for the Nue and think they are tough shit
>it's a complete ripoff souls clone
>that doesn't play like souls
>>336293409
>>336293483
>>336293520
>>336293898
Beat him the first try after submitting that post. Thanks for the tips.
>>336294276
>Souls faggots go in expecting a clone
>Get their ass kicked because they are playing like shielddaggots of any souls game
>Proceed to call this game a shitty souls clone
Summed it up
Do spears scale with strength or skill?
I've played like an hour of Bloodborne, but no Souls.
This certainly feels similar to me. I like the athletics more, and the stance system is pretty cool. But I don't feel like I'm improving, really. I'm still getting rekt pretty hard all the time.
If I find all the Kodamas in the 1st level is it safe to proceed to 2nd level?
>>336294594
Body.
>>336294594
body
>>336294594
recall most I've seen scaled with Body
they're probably seen as defensive weapons or something, so you could go around with that huge health pool and still do damage
>>336294606
What's tripping you up? Once I got a grip on mid-attack stance switching and the reliability of sprinting compared to dodging, it got a lot more manageable.
>>336294675
>>336294682
>>336294594
So what stat scales with Katana? Skill right?
>>336294769
heart I think
>>336294769
main is heart
>>336294830
Ok...this is definitely not intuitive
>>336294769
skill usually influences it too, but Heart is the main stat and also increases your Ki making it one of the best for spamming and stunlocking
>>336294889
Look at the weapons, they show you what they scale with.
>>336293651
Nah, just comparing the default difficulties, Ni-oh is the most difficult of the three.
>>336294889
From my experience so far Skill is a stat that's important for being able to use a weapon (stat requirements on the weapon) but the weapons usually scale with something else.
>played Bloodborne
>loved it
>bought DS3, gets boring
>/v/ talking about Ni-oh
>download the demo
>having fun with it
THANK YOU /v/!!
I love the setting and the stance gameplay!
>>336294889
Usually a weapon needs to stats to use effectively and scales off three skills.
Raikiri is Heart(10) and skill(7) to use effectively and it scales off Heart, strength, and skill. Unsurprisingly the biggest influences to it's attack are heart and skill.
>>336295042
Speaking of Skill, it seem to increase "Ki Pulse" stat a lot (heart increases actual Ki, and Ki Pulse not that much), just what does that stat do exactly? I take it it's related to ki pulse but what.. how much you can regain or something?
>>336294192
to be fair the game does borrow so much from the souls series that expecting it to play like a souls game is sort of an expected outcome. I struggled with the game a bit a first because I made the same assumptions. Once I realized that's not how it was meant to be played, I started to enjoy it.
>>336295031
shut up lucifer
I want that Mark of the Conqueror, but I already know it's not happening. No way I'm beating this demo by Thursday with work full time. I am really, really terrible at this. Oh, well, I can always beat the full game, r-right guys?
>>336295243
>Affects the initial amount of Ki restored by a ki pulse
So I guess it could translate into how fast the bar fills up for a pulse or how far it could fill up.
>>336285358
You won't be missing anything. It's not very good regardless.
>>336295472
Totally
Wait what? The demo has time limit?
>>336285358
Why can't you just admit that the game isn't for you and you didn't enjoy your experience?
So you couldn't get enjoyment on vee's FOTM. What's the big deal? Go play some vidya you know you will enjoy.
>>336294769
C'mon slowbeef, read those item descriptions.
>>336295472
Just beat the fucking demo. If you don't have 4-7 hours (and that's pushing it) in the next couple of days to beat the boat boss then you need to prioritize a little better
>>336295472
it's short, you just need to do the first boss
once used to the basics you can get that done in like 30 minutes
getting used to it is the longest part which varies from people to people
>>336295609
Yeah, it goes offline on the 5th, iirc. You can play it as much as you want until then.
bad souls clone that dumb niggas will pretend to like because
>muh challenging games
>i beat all218624 bosses on first try
blow it large, fuckers
>>336291729
YES!Love those little bastards
>>336292241
Dude always lure ninjas one by one cause all it takes is 2 to gang bang you and ruin you playthrough.
>>336285358
>I hate the Ninja Gaiden games
Then this game isnt for you!
Ni-oh actually scratches the itch i have been having for a good challenging hack and slash for the last decade or so(since NG2. on x360)
>>336295609
It's a network alpha. This is for testing the online.
What did you put on the survey /v/?
I'm still finishing the second stage so i'm not fully ready to make complete judgement yet.
>>336285358
get good
I gave up at Nue.
Not buying it. The game was just tedious as fuck. I hated every single second I spent getting through it. I'm actually super glad the demo came out because I was buying this game day one before I got the chance to try it.
>>336296054
I told them that magic was OP and needed a nerf
>>336296054
Where is the survey?
>>336296231
everything is OP
enemies need buffing
>>336296259
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_us
>>336296259
It showed up on their twitter. Do a Google search for NIOH survey.
I don't understand I could get through the ninja gaiden games just fine, even the NES ones but this game is fucking impossible
>>336286440
Name me 5 games that are harder, no bullshit like "Ninja Gaiden, Ninja Gaiden 2". If it's only entry level surely you can easily do that.
>>336295864
You clearly haven't played it. It borrows the bonfire and bloodstain mechanics, but that is about it. The combat is completely different, and superior to the souls combat, especially the combat from DaS2 or DaS3.
>>336296229
I don't believe you.
>>336296231
Nah, magic seems fine. The living weapon needs to be less effective on bosses though.
How does the guardian spirit work? Do I have to activate it?
>>336296469
Silly trip fag no one cares what you think. How'd you get off my filter list anyway. Back you go!
>>336296469
Magic in general is fine. But Sloth just seems too good.
>>336296350
>>336296362
Thank you.
>>336296469
shut up lucifer
>>336292440
they want you to go full cruhazy but i agree that it shouldn't be the only way to fight them
>>336296469
I've been meaning to ask because I can't remember, but which /vg/ general are you from? Dragon's Dogma?
![itachis_shuriken_fire_against_bee_by_axeldavis-d8qizqi[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ube9gGF.jpg "itachis_shuriken_fire_against_bee_by_axeldavis-d8qizqi[1].jpg")
>>336292953
>my magic bullet
>>336296583
It's not just Sloth. The guardian spirits are actually extremely strong, mainly the one that boosts amrita and the one that gives you a map of the level. Fire shurikens + elemental weapons = perma stunlocked enemies. Living weapon by itself can make any boss into a joke. All of the magic in this game needs a big nerf or the game will be devoid of challenge as soon as you have enough points put into it
>>336296709
He's the worst tripfag of the souls and bloodborne generals
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SJgP4FE.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>336293651
>>336292440
There have been plenty of unparriable weapons or enemies in souls games.
>>336296709
Originally? I was from /co/. When /vg/ was first created I was primarily in the /dsg/ general. Dragons Dogma was also one of the many generals I posted in regularly.
![ulquiorra-heart-bleach-anime-22929779-1841-2560[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vstvhpi.jpg "ulquiorra-heart-bleach-anime-22929779-1841-2560[1].jpg")
>>336294769
So I beat the demo boss at level 18 dying a lot
Then I re-played the whole demo in like 40 minutes and beat him on second try (almost did it first try though)
After you get good equip and a good handle of the mechanics the game is ezpz
Idk if I'll buy it though
>>336297132
>not beating the second boss
>>336295031
No it isn't, perhaps you've played the dumbed down sigma babbies versions?
Ni-Oh plays like a slightly more difficult souls. It's nothing like NG.
>>336296469
>I don't believe you.
You should
>>336285358
>>336297186
Yeah the last boss I meant
Like, this one is the last one right?
Yeah, him.
>>336297361
No that's the first boss. There's another, much harder level with a bullshit boss at the end.
>>336297467
>Nue
>bullshit
Why not just use a bow?
>>336296553
Each spirit gives you a passive buff as long as you have enough stats in to Spirit.
Once the spirit gauge is full/pulsing, press triangle + O to get your spirit to embue your weapon with its element power for a limit time
>>336285358
conquered
>>336297198
I played the originals on the xboxs. The only thing that even came close to being difficult in the original was the black ninja, and only until you realized you could just block their shuriken then roll away from the follow up explosions.
Spamming Izuna Drop or the swallow attack (or whatever it was called), made the game ridiculously easy.
>>336297246
Even assuming that is your screen shot and not lifted from somewhere else, how does that prove you made it to Nue?
>>336297615
Did you beat both on Master Ninja mode?
Simply abusing izuna drop won't help you, especially on NG2.
>>336295472
Just coop it. I helped someone that used fist and guided him to all the kodama we reached the boat. He died in the boss room since I could not kill it fast enough.
>>336297863
I think I beat the original on all the settings. I think I only played through NG2 once because I didn't like it as much as the original.
However, we are talking about the default difficulties, so it doesn't really matter. And like I said, on the default difficulties, those two moves made the game a push over. I seem to recall flying swallow being OP even in the harder settings too.
Is the demon on the boat with the 2 big ass wrecking balls the boss you need to beat to get the dlc? Holy fuck is he an asshole.
>>336298554
Yes, you have to conquer him.
>>336298554
You only have to beat the first stage to get the DLC yeah.
Second stage is just for fun.
>>336298554
Yeah. He is actually pretty easy once you get his pattern memorized.
>>336298554
I hated him at first too but then I ended up wondering why I ever had trouble.
Not as bad as it seems.
>>336298667
>>336298626
Fuck. Pretty sure I'm under levelled, also nobody will join mt game. Whats a good strat against him if I use spears?
>>336298554
He is pretty fucking easy once you figure out that he can only do 2 attacks on his first phase and all you gotta do in his second phase is run
>>336298873
as far as I'm aware it's really just about dodging like a madman and hitting his ass regardless of the weapon -- while keeping that Ki up as much as possible
onmyo sloth and kekkai can help a lot
Why cant I replace every end combo in the game? I just want square triangle to be different than square square triangle
No matter what it turns out to be, The Mark of the Conqueror is significant.
Before I say why I need to divide the Souls community into two general groups - Conquerors and Conquered - and quickly define both.
Both have basically been around since Demon's Souls, but the very nature of the Conquered demands that the Conquerors come first. Why? Because Conquers beat the path and light the way. Afterward, like mold or a rot, the Conquered seep into the community, ever at the heels of the Conquerors.
How is that? Either by a lack of information upon release or due to a self-imposed restriction, the Conqueror goes in blind. Conquerors embrace the challenge From Software has extended with each release in their Souls/Bloodborne Series while the Conquered abhor it. While Conquerors scratched and clawed their way through levels and boss fights, the Conquered poured over FAQs, Strategy Guides, Wiki Articles, Google Search Results, Let's Plays and How to Videos.
Therefore the Conquered subsist by virtue of the illumination spread over From's games by the Conquerors, entirely dependent on it. Overtime they've let themselves forget this, fancying themselves old hands as they bring their borrowed knowledge and tactics to bear on each successive release.
And then here comes fucking Nioh, reminding the Conquered who they really are. And with little to no documentation in sight they hide behind shitposts so they can cling to that "gud" status they worked so hard to attain. Eventually they'll be back. Once the Conquerors have shown the way, that is.
And that's why The Mark of the Conqueror is significant. No matter how superficial, uselessly cosmetic or quickly outclassed it is, it stills says I'm not this nigga >>336285358
No, I'm a Conqueror.
>>336299087
probably just an alpha demo thing, I doubt it'll be like that in final
devs tend to not do configuration menus until last minutes since they use external configs, probably got rushed.. axe even got a wrong skill description
>Getting my ass kicked by the 30 man gank squads on the beach and up the hill a little bit
>Suddenly channel the spirit of ken-sama
>Make it all the way to the Nue without even trying
Once you get a few levels and some decent gear, game becomes really easy. Onis are about the only challenging enemy in the game and even they become trivial if you just use a sloth talisman on them.
I still have no idea what the point in other stances is though. One is strong but way too slow to really use, the other is fast but it's damage is so piss poor it's not worth it. I pretty much cut through everything with mid stance and never saw a need to change.
>>336298873
When he goes for a slam, dodge towards his opposite arm while being close to him. The one handed slams won't cross his body.
If he does the two-handed slam, then try to get under his arm pits or behind him.
Then hit him in the face. Breaking his horn will stun him and let you get big damage.
As for his spins, you can block the chains but not the balls. If you are up close block the first hit. Then back out of range.
Just keep poking him until his chains break then just play dodge ball with him and smack him when he misses a throw.
After you break his Ki Armor, activate your Living Weapon, and mash your way to victory.
>tfw you want to play more NiOh but also don't want to see more of the game before release
>>336299570
I ended up stopping after first boss because of that, still wanted to play but I'd rather leave it for final game.
>>336299719
That's stupid, to be honest. I understand wanting to play blind, but that doesn't really apply when you can be the one playing it. Playing it early isn't the same as watching someone else play it early.
>>336285358
So what reward do you get for killing the second boss? I killed the first and got mark of the conqueror
>>336300062
nothing, it's just for if you still want to play
>>336299986
If I play it now im going to have to play it again in the future, and it won't be nearly as fun
So instead of playing it twice, I just play it once
Im talking about the second stage of course
>>336299719
>>336299570
Just play the second level, it's fun and different from the first one. Plus the game won't be coming out for months anyway and will likely be tweaked before release anyway.
>>336300209
I can wait, plus I wasn't even intending to play it right now. I only did because it's on a timer and it can't wait for much longer.
>>336285358
>I hate the Ninja Gaiden games
How
they are the literal definition of perfect sword combat in video games?
>>336300134
You don't actually think it will be the same, do you? Plus, you get the added fun of getting to see the changes, and a lower chance of being spoiled on it later.
>>336300209
to be fairly honest the only reason I played the first stage was to get the mark of git gud since it was a limited thing
I would rather go completely blind
>>336300358
op hates being a literal ninja
I think durability was an issue but then the boss room jus gives you mats for durability so idk if that was intention or for alpha purpose.
>>336300698
There's a couple of mentions of a blacksmith, so it won't be an issue in the final game, you'd assume.
>>336300698
I liked just burning through katanas (lel japanese steel) and only used my good weapons when it matters
hope durability will be an issue
>>336300698
>durability
>an issue
By the time I crossed the town I had 6 whetstones and 9 glue's
And I was even using a 50 folds katana
Stuck on the Nue. Any tips /v/?
>>336300851
6 whetstones burn pretty fast if you fight a lot and aren't using dropped weapons
armor not an issue since you don't get hit as much as you hit things
>>336300698
I felt the same with the Whetstones being a, seemingly rare, random drop from Offerings.
If they were gonna take a fair amount of the mechanics from the Souls series I don't see how they missed Shrines(Bonfires) repairing equipment.
>>336288189
He got lucky and beat the Onryoki on the third time by a fluke. He gave up at the Nue.
This game, this fucking game man. It's only a demo but I'm having a blast with it.
Just beat Nue after countless retries, that shit was fucking intense. I missed getting my ass kicked at video games.
Also is it me or the level design completely shits over Souls level design? I mean you have fairly open areas with multiple paths and shortcuts, there are several way to go through them and running past every enemy won't allways suceed.
>>336299506
Haven't beat him yet but your advice did help get further than I did before. I really hope the community for this game continues to be helpful and not be reduced to souls level of shit.
>mfw DSP actually got the second bosses health down to 10% on his first try meanwhile i got 1hit ko'd when I went in there on my first try
>>336300889
Stack lightning defense (2 lightning charms + Reikan)
Keep close but don't wail on him. Watch for telegraphs and punish.
Sloth magic for EZ modo.
>>336286440
>>336286440
Really though what is a hard game, then? Every single fucking game gets called casual, I don't know a single one that hasn't been called such. I'm starting to think it might all just be shitposting.
>>336300976
>If they were gonna take a fair amount of the mechanics from the Souls series I don't see how they missed Shrines(Bonfires) repairing equipment.
See >>336300785
Pretty evident through the crazy amount of gold we're getting that there'll be other shit to spend it on beyond Kodama blessings.
>>336301020
I like how there seems to be always a good way to kill enemies smartly through using shortcuts
>>336300889
Stick to his side not the rear, makes it easier to dodge his attacks. When he rears up and his chest is all yellow, stab him in the chest and his Ki will be drained so you can stagger him and use your Guardian Spirit.
Use the Slow talismans on him and he's super easy. When he shoots his mouth laser, if you have time and won't take damage, you can stab his face and drain all his ki, opening him up again for staggering.
>>336301020
First level, sure. Second level is linear as a motherfucker.
>>336299506
hope this whole break/stagger/depleted-ki will be dampened in full game
this reminds me too much of toukiden and the like, which I didn't particularly want to see in this game
I'd rather be fighting normally the whole fight rather than finishing it by mashing at a staggered target
I want to play it so badly but I have too much going on with school. Why the fuck did they release it this close to finals?
>>336301361
it's a demo, it's not exactly time consuming unless you want to do absolutely everything it and start experimenting with stuff
>>336300963
I have been cooping with my best equips and always have 9 Whetstone/Glue. I always find a 10th Whetstone/Glue before my stuff reaches 50% durability so I never change equipment. I roll into all the boxes and pots and they appear quite frequently. Just use one since the max is 9 and grab the one you found.
>>336300976
I think wetstones are rare in the first area on purpose. I think they wanted to hammer home the idea that you are supposed to constantly swap weapons.
>>336301045
Glad to hear it. I think it will stay friendly, especially if the game stays exclusive to the PS4. The /dsg/ threads are pretty shitty and unhelpful, but the /bbg/ threads remained super friendly and helpful.
>>336301083
>got 1hit ko'd when I went in there on my first try
Armor matters in Nioh. Just equip armor and the guardian with lightning resistance. I went from being one shotted to shrugging off lightning bolts.
>>336301360
I beat Nue without using living weapon, and it was way more fun that way so I agree.
>>336301361
To raise difficulty?
>>336301361
It's 4-6 hours long depending on how good you are and thoroughly you explore, and it's up for another 2 and a half days, so you can do it!
>>336301460
It closes down on like the 5th, right? I should be free to play it after tomorrow. Maybe I'll try to sit down and finish it then in one or two sitdowns, if it'll allow for that.
>>336301361
I beat it in about 4-6 hours like >>336301552 said
You can do it , you can get your "gud" certificate
>>336288785
>MFW I JUST BEAT NUE ON MY SECOND TRY
Man, i am either overleved or some of you were underlevedl when you fought him.
He didnt even hit me once.
You can literallly run circles around nue and none of his attacks will ever hit you if you stay at the proper distance.
Didn't even need to use stamina dash except for when he bum rushes you and reveals his belly afterwards so you can hit it for full damage.
So far the best strategy in this game is to run around like a retard cause trying to fight all slow and methodically like some "way of the samurai" bullshit will only get you killed by groups or just take forever to kill one enmy!
All i ever did thru out the demo was use Triangle stance with samurai sword(almost fully upgraded of course)and just let enemies whiff attacks and then hit them with a heavy strike.
If they want us to play the game the proper way they would need to redesigng the game drastically cause hack and slash games are normally pretty fast paced and its better to treat Nioh as a fast paced action game than trying to play the way the developers probably intended.
>>336288841
Only if you damn near fully upgrade it ya mook casue i tried using it on the Nue stage and it didnt even do a lick of damage to the iron golems in the secret area with the extra shrine
>>336300889
Wait until Nue uses all of its ki and then activate living weapon. Hack away until dead.
>>336300889
hit his face stomach to stagger
>>336300889
I tried to beat him legit combo-ing his ass at every opportunity but after dying countless times when his lifebar was under 30% from an attack that came out of nowhere I played safe and it went smoothly.
Take some time to study his moveset. There is a small oppening when he uses his lightbeam, run quickly to his right, hut him and gtfo.
There is another opening when he jumps at you and lays down, you should be able to hit him a couple of times before he stands up.
Don't be greedy, keep your focus, the battle may take awhile if you play it safe so don't fuck up at the last moment, it's easy to mess up in this fight and Nue will punish you hard.
Anyone felt that wearing light armor is just not worth it?
I mean sure the agility is max and evading distances increase, it just leave almost zero margins of error if you fuck up the dodge and get punished with a OHKO
>>336291729
Hope they're harder to find in the main game
>>336285358
90% of human encounters amount to
>bait first attack
>dodge
>mid attack once
>kick
>mid attack once
>kick
If that hasn't depleted their ki yet, one more attack usually will. Once that's depleted and they're exhausted, finish with a grapple.
Now tell me, how is this game hard?
>still no nioh fanart
>>336301020
>Also is it me or the level design completely shits over Souls level design?
you people are trying way too hard to shit on Souls games at any cost
>>336301519
FUCKING CONQUERED. I see what everyone means by once you beat him you wonder how the fuck he gave you so much trouble. Thanks for the tips btw.
>>336291729
If you shoot an arrow into the shrine, they all hide under their hats.
>>336301903
low stance block
>getting hit with boss giant swings
should be ashamed that it isn't OHKO
>>336301903
Its actually the opposite
Heavy armor just makes you sluggish as fuck, all the best players don't use armor
>>336302009
Working on it.
>>336301903
I didn't see any reason to not use light armor, the defense is good enough to give you that margin of error
unless you need a margin that involves getting hit over and over and over again
>>336291729
I got 10/12 without going out of my way to find them. I never bothered looking for the last two.
>>336302015
Congrats, and happy to help.
>>336302230
>>336301903
I go with heavy armor unless it puts be over the weight limit. I don't mind shorter dodges. Actually, I prefer them most of the time.
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Defeating Onryoki was sorta anti-climactic.
>>336301689
You probably just got lucky.
>>336302725
>the 4 guys on top of the hill in the first level
I can get the first guy sitting down usually and sometimes the second one but these other niggers are giving me way too much trouble for some reason.
>>336303330
USE
THE
FUCKING
BOW
ONE HEADSHOT = ONE KILL against those mooks
Alternatively go around the forest/hills and get them from behind
>>336292638
I killed the first 2 Onis by going on a roof and throwing firebombs at them.
Maximum cheese.
>>336303330
Consider exploring the stage more
Man fuck big monster fights. You vs humanoid is where is at. Pic related is one of the best boss fights ever.
>>336303397Where is it?
>>336296463
Armored core 3 and the expansions. Of even argue 4, FA, V, and VD on the higher difficulties as well. They even required more strategy and thought than any souls game
>>336303442
Novelty is inherent to entertainment, and variety is inherent to novelty.
>>336297467
>There's another, much harder level with a bullshit boss at the end.
The oni boss was much harde to deal with than nue cause you fight him in an enclosed space.
Nue gives you a fucking arena sized area
>>336303580
Explore the stage, there's a second shrine before the lord's manor.
>>336301689
It took me 10 tries but when I did get it he only hit me once with the tail.
He had similar moves to the cat in the DS2 DLC, only slower.
What's his name again?
>>336303580
Consider exploring the stage more.
>>336303663
gorganzolla.
>>336303580
Maybe if you stopped playing like a souls retard you would discover that heading straight to the manor with the 4 guards straight from the beach is the worst thing to do
>>336302012
I know people are just trying to compare it to souls, but I am actually surprised at the level in this demo. It's not only big, it's also really well designed. If this is an indication of the rest of the levels in the game, it's going to blow the fuck out of Dark Souls in the level design department.
>>336303330
I had trouble for a while but then I started using the spear and learned to block/dash backwards. Once you get the hang of it mobs aren't really that bad anymore.
I think the BIGGEST thing that got me fucking up was Williams dodges don't provide invulnerability frames so I'd jus dodge into something thinking the frames would save me.
Finally able to realize this and the game got easier for me
>>336303114
No not really i played around with his moveset the first time and beat him the second.
I had more trouble with nameless king and pontiff than i ever had with Nue.
All his attacks are:
lightning storm makes those grey areas that mess with your ki
Lighning blast from mouth with short range
Bum rush that leaves weakness eposed
Venom tail where his tail spits acid
Claw swipes
The last 2 are only ever used if you are within melee range and the other 3 is what he will spam if you stay far away from him.
>>336303829
The level design in BB and DS3 is better. in fact the levels in this game seem pretty similar to BB, just less interesting and complex
>>336304059
Some do. It's affected by stance and I believe weapon and possibly weight as well. Also ki dodging gives more iframes.
>>336304079
To be fair, those are arguarbly the two hardest bosses in DS3(Or so i've been told).
We know basically nothing of Nioh Boss output.
>>336304079
>not listing spin to win, the snake biting you, or the somersault with lightning that he can combo off swipes
You almost had everything.
>>336304079
You're forgetting the short-range spin and the tail-jab that never hits anything ever.
He also has a bite attack that will OHKO you, if that's not what you meant by "bumrush" which I assume is the roly-poly attack.
>>336304059
There are no iframes, but if you go light on weight your dodge become so fast that its practically iframes unless you don't straight into a blade
>>336304318
The bite attack could be the bumrush, because if he misses you have a window to poke his tummy and break his guard.
>>336304203
This game has better shrine placement than DS3 though. One of the saddest parts of DS3 for me was having bonfires every 15 steps. It totally kills the tension.
For example: Kill the dancer, bonfire. Kill 5 enemies or so, bonfire. Kill another 7-10 enemies, bonfire. Then there's an actual area.
It would have been better with one or two bonfires spread throughout with shortcuts linking them.
Abundance of bonfires absolutely murders any sense of tension or danger.
>>336304318
>He also has a bite attack that will OHKO you
I suggest getting 8 spirit and using the shark. It will still do a shit ton but you won't die, assuming you are near full to full hp.
>>336304485
>tfw of relief when you find the second shrine at the mountains
I believe that once you get a foothold on the mountains the demo becomes much easier
