Can you think of any more?
Bait
monster hunter
>>336277308
It's only bait if all the games can't arguably have bad controls.
And they all do.
>Resident Evil 5
>good game
>>336277217
So what exactly is wrong with the controls?
>Trinity
>Five games shown
MGRR doesn't have bad controls.
Skyward Sword and Resident Evil 5 are not good games.
>>336277217
>trinity
Dark Souls
Sonic Generations
Scott Pilgrim
Mirror's Edge
Kirby Mass Attack
What kind of fucking idiot made this picture?
-Skyward Sword's controls work fine, it's just waggling shit is annoying and the game itself is shit.
-Revengeance is a fantastic game that doesn't explain one of it's main features super well. The controls otherwise are great.
-Resident Evil 5 controls well except for the menu in coop which is a bit clunky. Makes me with for RE4 style inventory management, or at the very least an upgrade to your inventory space to spend money on.
-Star Fox Zero's controls are fine, it's just that by the time you get used to them the game's already over.
Like holy shit, I wish you had a tripcode so I could filter you and never see your retarded posts again.
>>336277398
Do you know what a trinity is
>>336277217
>trinity
Will you people ever learn what a trinity is?
The fuck is wrong with MGR's controls?
Can't git gud at Zandatsu?
SFZ is average at best, and the controls bring it down from there
>>336277217
>Five games
Do you even know what the word trinity means?
>>336277217
Gothic 1 & 2
>>336277217
You firgot Kid Icarus Uprising.
>"Trinity" is correct because only three of those games are good.
Well done, anon.
Skyward Sword and MGR don't have bad controls though.
>>336277217
>holy trinity
>five games
kek
Learn to count newfag
More like the ultimate bait
>>336277217
Gothic 1 & 2 and Grim Fandango
Oh i get it, it was originally a trinity of good games with bad controls but then he put MGRR in there as bait because it doesn't have bad controls
>mgrr controls are bad
git gud
Dark Souls
>>336277217
>holy trinity
>Zelda, Starfox, Fear effect and RE5 are all the embodiment of MGR
What is going on in this picture
inb4
<--------OP
I honestly can't think of a good game with bad controls.
>bad controls
It's called git gud
Bad controls are a meme that started the homogenization of our favorite hobby
All controls are unique to the game and when mastered the game plays perfectly fine.
When the controls STILL don't function after you have mastered them the game is bad and doesn't need to be played anyways
Well, OP fucked up, but I take the chance to say that I fucking hate Mario Galaxy because of the controls (and the camera).
>>336277983
Resident Evil 5. Zombies running toward you in groups forces you to continue running, hoping the zombies become stuck behind obstacles, so you can fight them one on one. It wasn't designed to be played like that.
>>336277217
Ape Escape
>>336277217
>Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword
>Good Game
>>336277587
>Skyward Sword's controls work fine
I constantly had to realign aiming controls, and it's very difficult to get the game to distinguish between actually wanting to swing your sword and just wanting to move it around.
>>336278269
RE5 isn't a good game, and the controls are alright.
>shitty thread with terrible bait
>people still reply
>>336277465
I can't speak for all of these but MGR has clunky camera controls that make the game a pain in the ass to play sometimes.
No more heroes
>>336277217
>MGR
What?
>RE5 instead of RE4
If you're a casual who has problems with tanky controls then RE5 is better than RE4 in that regard
1. Isn't a trinity supposed to be three items?
2. The correct answer is Final Fantasy VII, Eternal Champions, and Deadly Premonition.
>all these people taking the bait/playing along with OP
Never change /v/
>>336278910
you underestimate the amount of underage retards on neo-/v/ who would make a chart like OPs unironically
>>336278194
thanks yui chan
>>336278209
I think Galaxy's controls are fine if you consider the game they're in. Sure, Mario feels slow and unresponsive if you're someone with experience playing SM64/Sunshine and are used to being to the crazy acrobatics you can pull in those games; but in Galaxy 1/2, the lack of these options doesn't really inhibit you from accomplishing anything because the game is so linear and the obstacles aren't challenging. There would be no added benefit to the mobility of SM64 or Sunshine.
>>336278883
>Final Fantasy 7
>a game that is mostly menus
>bad controls
I haven't played the other two so this is bait right?
>>336277217
The game is built around the controls for RE5 though.
>>336277592
Its a joke dummy
>No Kid Icarus
Glad someone else isn't a weak cripple who can't hold a 3DS.
>>336278194
>anime poster
>is 100% right for once
whoa
>>336277217
Don't tell me you think Splatoon has bad controls too.
>>336277217
>trinity
>good games
>bad controls
>those games
>>336277217
>trinity
>4 games shown
Retard.
What should the third game be?
>>336279306
The problem with Final Fantasy VII is that the entire game, while consisting mostly of menus, was the first major game to defy the 'X=Yes, O=Cancel' set up.
For most people, it was extremely frustrating because the X button (now and past) was always established as the 'yes/okay/accept' button, but now it was the cancel button. While the O button was the 'yes/okay/accept' button.
This was basically FF7's biggest problem at the time.
>>336277217
Oh shit. I just realized I still have both Fear effect games and hadn't played them yet.
>>336277512
that´s because bio means water, final fantasy started with 7 and halo invented FPS.
>No MGS1 through 3
those games are abysmally controlled. Who the fuck let Kojima implement pressure controls?
>>336277217
were is kid ikarus 3ds?
I'm lefty and fucking hate that game
>>336278209
I agree so fucking much. The camera angle as well.
>>336280484
>5 games are shown
>4 games are shown
>retard.
retard.
>>336281172
>shitting on the controls of MGS1-3
Get good. They're fucking fantastic once you master them.
>>336280759
Git gud the game of course.
>MGR
>bad controls
u wot m8
also I really hope you just don't like KI:U because "good game with bad controls" is literally how I'd define that shit. Only game I've ever been straight up unable to play because of the control scheme being so horrendous.
>all of these dumbasses saying RE5 is bad
It's a competent third person shooter and the mercenaries mode is much better than RE4's
>>336277217
>trinity
Darksouls was litterally this.
Problem is that it got popular and From never fixed the controls.
>>336277217
>bad controls
>MGR
>good games
>skyward sword and starfox zero
Literally what.
Not sure about Fear Effect though, only thing I remember was it getting hyped up b/c it had hot lesbians in it or something.
>MGR
>SFZ
>Bad controls
>>336280759
Games where people bitch about the controls but they work well and more or less perfectly suit the game?
Sin and Punishment, maybe?
System Shock?
>>336279372
A game should never be designed around bad camera angles
>>336281501
Kid Icarus: Uprising controls very well though. Aiming and camera movement is surprisingly fast and accurate for not-mouse.
>>336281659
What's the problem with Dark Souls' controls?
>>336277349
they dont have bad controls for the system theyre on
Skyward Sword is a bad game with good controls though.
>>336277217
RE5, MGR are bait
Skyward Sword and Starfox aren't good games
>>336282117
>What's the problem with Dark Souls' controls?
hmm I suppose it's not just that but the camera, the input delay, the stickyness of the character, that really subtle feeling of jank you get when you play their games.
It doesn't feel as smooth as any other action game, I mean it doesn't have to be easier just smoother. Honestly though I think the popularity stopped them from fine tuning it in fear that they'll ruin it.
>>336282039
the camera angles make the game
Resident Evil 5 has the same fucking controls as 4 you fucking retard.
>>336277217
>No Kid Icarus: Uprising.
You had one job OP
God hand should be on the list, but only because it takes a while to get used to the backwardness of the controls.
>>336277524
>>336277545
These.
>Hurrdurr Icarus controls are fine
Try to play it with an XL you retards.
>>336283247NOTthis
>>336277217
>MGR
>RE5
>bad controls
>>336280759
F-Zero GX
>>336277217
>Skyward Sword
SS was a bad game with good controls.
>>336282246
The controls work, they're functional, but only because the game was made bad to accommodate them.
>combat is slow games of Simon Says + waggle when an enemy is stunned
If they had made a good game, the motion detection probably wouldn't be fast and/or accurate enough to properly keep up with the action.
And the aiming being significantly worse than in Twilight Princess will never not irritate me.
>>336283328
Anon, that's the only way I've played the game. The controls are good.
It must be hard to be a one armed submarine pilot.
>>336280759
Splatoon, duh
> RE5
> being either better or having worse controls than ANY classic RE
Lol no. I mean, Lost in Nightmares was decent at least, I suppose.
>>336281789
OG Resident Evil.
>>336280759
Remove Star Fox, replace it with what >>336283456 posted.
>>336282117
KI:U essentially requires that circle pad accessory for left-handed plebians. Except even then it's not great because you're used to fine-control joysticking with the left hand, as all controllers put the main stick on the left.
>>336284067
RE5 was a blast to play and Lost in Nightmares was just nostalgia bait.
Not even good nostalgia bait because you fight one enemy type the whole way through.
>good games with bad controls
>revengeance doesn't have bad controls
>skyward sword isn't a good game
If you had trouble parrying in MGSR you're legitimately a slow learner or possibly just stupid.
It was very straightforward, they had a tutorial the whole shebang.
>>336277349
false
>>336284262
Left handed people can git gud too. I have a left handed friend who 101% the game with no circle pad pro.
>>336277217
SS is a shit game with okay controls, replace it with pic related.
>>336284262
>KI:U essentially requires that circle pad accessory for left-handed plebians
Maybe it's just because I'm ambidextrous, but I really, REALLY, doubt this is true.
>>336284313
We have polar opposite opinions on the matter, then. I was over mowing down waves of enemies halfway through the campaign and I wanted to kill myself by the time Desperate Escape was overwith. LiN was nostalgia bait but at least it was something other than killing waves of enemies.
>>336284471It really depends on the lefty. Some lefties are fairly ambidextrous. Luckily I am one of them so my statement didn't apply to me.A right handed person would fucking die trying to do that shit with their left hand. Right handed people suck at ambidexterity.
>>336277217
Kid Icarus Uprising
>>336284781
I liked RE5 because of the gun upgrades and the variety they offered you when you replay the missions, especially if you have infinite ammo.
Also really liked Mercenaries.
It's an action game so I treat it like one, no sense trying to impose survival horror standards on a game that clearly tries to do something different from its predecessors. RE6 was completely unfun, irredeemable garbage though.
>>336277217
Skyward Sword's controls were good though
Also this trinity meme is shit
>>336280759
>>336281789
Found the perfect fit.
>>336285404
I bought Gold Edition on a digital sale for $10 because I thought "Eh, at least Lost in Nightmares looks alright", and I got what I expected. I get that RE5 is an action game but that doesn't mean I have to like that. I found the story more enjoyable than the campaign because running through waves of enemies with a friend is not my idea of a good time. I actually liked the parts where it wasn't an action game more like the motorboat swamp part, the minor puzzles in the caves or the beginning of the lab leading up to the initial licker encounters. Compared to all that I found the action gameplay competent but mundane. I ultimately got what I wanted out of RE5 but I also very much got what I expected out of it as well. Only thing that surprised me was the cover mechanics - I did not know RE5 tried to be a cover shooter and that just made me roll my eyes.
>gyro
why i will never bother with splatoon or star fox. thanks nintendo, dumbfucks.
>>336277217
>MGR
>RE5
What's wrong with either of these?
I also found SFZ fine but that one I can at least understand the complaint.
>>336277217
>mgr;r
>bad controls
>RE5
>good game
>trinity
>5 games
This isn't even bait anymore. Even if you're only pretending, you're still retarded.
>>336286652
You can play Splatoon with dual sticks and turn off Gyro
If you want to be shit
>>336278194
I actually agree.
Way of the Samurai 4 felt fresher than a lot of other titles, since it's such an unorthodox game.
>>336286652
Gyro in Splatoon both works welll and is surprisingly intuitive. It only handles Y-axis camera control so aiming up and down is all you do with it. And even then you can go full analog stick control if you want.
>>336277217
>Skyward Sword
>Resident Evil 5
>bad controls
What's wrong with MGR controls? And RE5 surely controls much better than 4though I'll agree is a better game than 4.
>>336278194
Fucking this
>>336287249
> RE5 better than RE4
RE4 had the good sense to not shoehorn in multiplayer elements. That alone makes it better.
>>336277217
I'm pretty sure the only one that actually belongs there is fear effect.
>>336277217
Skyward Sword is a bad game with bad controls
RE5 Starfox and Rising are fine
This isn't even a trinity
You're a faggot.
>starfox zero
>good game
>mgr
>bad controls
>>336288024
>starfox zero
>good game
Yes.
>>336288380
it's garbage
>SS
>good
The controls were actually the only good part of it
>>336277217
>Trinity
>there's five fucking games
>>336288432
You haven't even played it.
I have.
It's a GREAT Star Fox game.
Fear Effect was a fine game, anti-tank control scum please leave
>>336288559
Timeshift Stones, man.
>>336277217
How is Dark Souls not on here?
The jumping alone is enough to put it on any list.
>>336288779
Because the thread would be drowned in GIT GUD.git gud
>>336288779
There's rarely any need to jump. Do you think it needs a dedicated button more than things you'll actually be doing often, or something?
>>336285996
It's perfect.
KIDS
HEY
KIDS
LISTEN
OK
IF A GAME HAS BAD CONTROLS
IT IS NOT A GOOD GAME
NO ARGUMENTS
NO "BUT..."
NO WHINING
SIMPLE, 100% TRUTH
NOW SHUT YOUR MOUTHS AND LEARN
>>336286652
M+KB > Gyro >>> twin stick
Deal with it.
>>336289443
Bad controls are subjective. Case in point, I don't think tank controls are bad.
>>336289508
FUCKING THIS
M+KB > Stylus aiming > Motion aiming >>> Twin stick
>>336289443
Bad controls are subjective, broken controls are the issue. >>336278194
>>336277217
>Skyward Sword
Didn't have bad controls. The only thing I'd actually call bad about it would be the harp segments.
Primary issue is that people went in expecting to be able to do whatever the fuck they wanted, then criticized the game for doing things that weren't what they wanted. It may have had angular slashing controls, but it was still a fucking wiimote games. There are limits to what it can do, and a lot of people, as with ANY game that doesn't use a fairly standard control scheme, blamed the controls for being bad rather than their lack of ability to understand the limitations and work within them. It's like being given a colouring book and scribbling fucking everywhere and saying it's the colouring book's fault for having bad pictures.
Some people may have had legitimately faulty or damaged controllers, or lived in geomagnetic fuck you zones, or on houses on hills or some other shit that fucked with the calibration and sensory capabilities of the controllers, but those aren't the game's fault. The fact that people can play the game perfectly fine without experiencing issues fucking proves that the game didn't have bad controls, and calling them bad when they're merely different is fucking pathetic.
Kid Icarus: Uprising also suffered from this.
On a different note, The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass didn't have bad controls per se, but it certainly had some extremely ill-advised controls. For shit like the tools and mapping it was fine, but basing character movement on touchscreen without some kind of digital slidepad and with the game on the same screen you're touching? That is not a good idea, unless you're playing fucking TWEWY.
>>336277217
>MGR and SF0
>Bad controls
Bullshit.
>>336278393
Move the controller more slowly.
>>336277587
Bait or either a bad troll.
>>336277217
Gunvalkyrie
Deadly Premonition on Xbox 3608bit Castlevanias
>>336278194
Sonic '06.
>>336290294
Fuck, I didn't read the last part of the post.
>>336290267
8bit Castlevanias had fine controls. What's weird with them is the physics like forced forward momentum when jumping in a direction or insane knockback while taking damage. That doesn't translate to bad controls, though.
>>336278194
Wrong.
All console FPS have bad controls (hence aim-assist).
MGR has fine controls, get fucking good.
>>336277217
Skyward sword is a bad game with good controls
>>336277524
The parry system is broken. Only neckbeard permavirgins can get past bladewolf
>>336277587
Someone who is fat but it's never their fault
>>336277217
Not one of those is good
A better choice is System Shock 1
>>336277217
I get the whole trinity thing, but it still triggers me to no end
>>336278342
It is a good game, you just need to move your fat arms
>>336291558
Literally press attack and toward the enemy, the only part that's remotely challenging is timing, and even then that's not hard.
>>336279850
Instead they're a weak cripple who can't hold a wiimote
>>336277217
>SS
>a good game
>MGR
>bad controls
All sorts of wrong here, OP.
>>336277217
Isn't kid Icarus one of those games?
>>336288664
>>336288380
Nah it was shit.
It had 1 good level. Everything else was barebones, it could have probably been awesome if they don't force motion controls
>People arguing Kid Icarus Uprising has good controls while MGR:R has bad controls
What's fucking wrong with you people??
>>336284356
Revengance has godawful controls and ss is the best of all the zeldas
>>336291558
I always hated how easy it was to parry. It was the most braindead shit to do. Even on very hard you could just kinda mash and get pretty good results.
>>336292119
>use analog to move
>press x to attack
ITS FUCKING SHIT
>>336284472
Just because you're too fat to appreciate ss doesn't mean 101 sales has to replace it
>>336291902
If your wrist is weak, yes.
The controls are the least of SS problems.
>>336287903
>hates ss
>likes star fox and re5
The trinity post is accurate you retard
>>336277217
I have serious issues with this, as TRINITY IMPLIES FUCKING 3
>>336277217
I don't think skyward sword ws a good game at all. Oh well at least newfags still get baited by the 4 trinity meme.
>>336291865
They're absolutely right, anon
>>336291558
I could parry but not in repetition because I thought you would hold RB and the just tap directions, and not press RB and a direction for each attack. Wasn't until monsoon that I figured this out.
These games were burdened by the wiimote's gimmick. If they both had NORMAL controls...
Monster Hunter before MH4
>>336292404
That makes you a newfag too, only newfags think their opinions matter
>>336277349
>tfw couldn't romance Dr. Chakwas in any of the 3 games, despite her always being present, having a "loyalty" subquest, and even getting drunk and flirting with Shepard if you do that subquest
>>336292580
How? It's like the opposite for me
>>336277217
Those are BAD games with DECENT controllers, scrub.
>>336292291
>he doesn't know how to mute the wiimote
>>336277217
>Skyward Sword
>Bad controls
Pick one because the two don't fit together.
Remember when back in the day you could make a game with clunky movement by design and no one would complain because people would understand that that was the creators intent
But nah every game nowadays has to have the smoothest butteriest movement that you may as well be a floating camera and nothing else
>>336293106
I sure do love the fact that the final boss is a slow, boring piece of shit that's literally just another Girahim fight because the controls don't allow for cool fights.
>>336277217
perfect dark
What about controls that are just hard but feel extremely smooth once you mastered them?
The world ends with you falls in this category too
I'd say the Galaxy games but they're not even that good.
>>336277217
The controls in RE5 wasn't the problem.
>>336291558
>Only neckbeard permavirgins can get past bladewolf
holy shit git gud it's not even hard
>>336296456
Its great to replay levels and see how much of a badass you've become in a few hours
>>336296456
>>336296835
>get shit on by cops every level
>couldn't even do a wall jump
>now can do the infinites on every stage and 100% the game cheevos
>RE5
>Skyward Sword
>MGR
>good games
>>336277349
>Monster Hunter
>good game
>>336277217
>Revengeance/RE5
>bad controls
>Skyward Sword
>good game
>Star Fox Zero
We all had to get used to N64 controls as kids, we can do the same for Wii U nowadays instead of shitposting about it. I bet none of you got a medal in SF64 on your first try.
>>336298606
>>336297316
>Skyward Sword
>bad game
>>336292559
...they would still be shit
>>336298815
Setting aside controls, however you feel about them, even the content is bad.
>lengthy high school drama intro
>mediocre story
>mediocre characters
>most of the main quest is basically doing meaningless chores to prove you're a hero (collect these notes, do this, do that)
>no difficulty
>Fi, and handholding in general, not allowing you to solve anything on your own, whole game feels like a tutorial
>reused boss fights
>3 areas that get reused over and over and over
>terrible hub world with almost no content outside of the main town
>minimal enemy variety compared to other Zeldas, mostly just bokoblins and slight variations thereof
>dungeons probably the shortest and most linear they've ever been in a Zelda game
>very few items, yet they still waste one of the item slots with the redundant fucking slingshot
>slow, shallow, and repetitive combat
>items have very limited use in combat, so most everything is fought with just your sword and shield
>graphics pretty poor in a lot of areas
>reminding you about literally every collectible every time you turn on the game
>etc. etc.
It's shit.
> no mention yet
The combat controls are fine, but God help you if you want to loot a specific box or want the horse to keep moving
>>336277217
>>trinity
>>336277217
System shock 1
Grim fandango
