What was his fucking problem?
>>336269016C4
>>336269016
He was pretty explosive
My guess was he had a superitority complex, but they're fucking vampires for shit sakes.
The Anarchs just wanted to live in peace and hold a fun time while never dying, at least what jack says.
The camarilla want the Anarchs to respect authority and have them live as underlings to the people, which didn't go well whatsoever.
He is a Ventrue. They are stuck up lie that. Also having a low generation Nagloper as you servant makes you a bit over-confident.
>>336269016
He was in a shit situation. A Prince is just a top-tier nobody in Kindred politics and to add insult to that, his Domain is in the middle of the Anarch Free State. At any given moment the Anarchs could toss his ass out and there's almost no chance that any other Elder in the Camarilla is going to risk their slice of night to help him.
So you do what you have to do. Act too nice and the Anarchs will think you're a bitch and all talk. Act too rough and they'll get in a tizzy about the MAN keeping them down.
>>336269665
>The camarilla want the Anarchs to respect authority
Not Authority. but elders. Camarilla are founded to defend vampiric traditions(in this case the gerontrocracy) whereas the Sabbat as a freedom and idealistic sect.
>>336269016
Chinese were taking over.
>>336270883
Pretty accurate.Jack knew he was desperate to "power up" so he made it look like a sarcophagus with an antediluvian headed into the city on a golden platter while spicing this meal up a little.
>>336269016
greed and hubris.
>>336271569
The Camarilla was founded because prior to it, there was no Masquerade and humanity got tired of Kindred shit and damn near exterminated them. So, since individual fuckup vampires are too stupid to not ruin immortality for everyone, they needed laws, rules and people to enforce them to keep everyone safe.
>>336269016
He was actually very intelligent, insightful and well spoken, you can see it from his opinions about power and politics or how he accepts his fate in the kuejin ending. It's just that he would suddenly become retarded when there was the slightest chance of abusing or acquiring power. After all, vampires inherit their antideluvian's vices.
Reminder that only morons think it's better to have a Paradox / Obsidian VtmB 2 than no VtmB 2 at all.
>>336271569
It's the same argument about government itself. Yes, governments are sucky and the puppets of the elites. But without them almost everyone except the strongest would be worse off. Yes, the Camarilla protects and serves the purposes of the Elders, but most Kindred are better off because of it despite the potential flaws and abuses.
>>336270634
How did he make him his bitch? I suppose even maxed dominate or presence wouldn't work on a low gen vampire.
>>336270883
>A Prince is just a top-tier nobody in Kindred politics
wat
>>336272532
A shitty entry in the series doesn't diminish the quality of existing good ones.
Pic related exists, and doesn't affect the quality of Bloodlines or Redemption. At worst, we have another shitty forgettable title. And at best, there's a chance that there's another great title that could possible reopen more in the future.
>>336272532
If it's shit I can ignore it, if it's by a tiny chance not shit I can enjoy it.
Homosexuality.
>>336272758
I don't know what you don't get about that. Prince is the highest rank of unimportant there is. Followed by Seneschal, Primogen Council, Sheriff and so on. The only people with genuine power in the Camarilla that aren't just straight hidden Inconnu sorts are folks like Justicars, Archons and the Inner Circle.
>>336272890
>>336272972
No. Here's what's going to happen.
It's going to be a humongous nostalgia bait that most consumers will bite at. It will be painfully mediocre at best and will pave the way for more shit shoveling Paradox is known for.
It will kill the franchise in the same way success of Human Revolution and Rhianna Raider killed Deus Ex and TR.
>>336273165
>kill the franchise
Where the fuck have you been? Vampire the Masquerade was canceled forever ago. They already did a remake, Vampire the Requiem. Then the whole company went out of business. This is a dead IP entirely.
So no, they can't kill it. At WORST they can just fail bringing it back to life.
>>336273352
If you bring it back to life and change everything good about the franchise it's worse than it staying dead.
>>336269016
He would of been a shit Prince in a good Cammie City. Let alone in the Anarch Free State with the Sabbat and the Kuejin also knocking on the doors of LA. The Justicar just threw him in like the sacrificial lamb he was.
>>336273506
No, you can always just ignore it. Old shit doesn't get retroactively ruined by new shit
>>336273352
>Where the fuck have you been?
Where the fuck have YOU been? They've already brought it back, the 20 years anniversary edition are a thing and new stuff for the line is supposed to be coming out soon. The shitty re-boot was side-lined into it's ow thing and now its called Chronicles of Darkness, while cWoD is back as just WoD.
>>336273795
Oh yes it does. If the new shit is successful it ensures no one wants to go back to what made old shit good in the first place.
>>336273847
The cWoD "revival" was nothing. Sure, they cashed in on nostalgia bux from me, you and losers like us, but they didn't bring anyone new into the franchise. Outside that overpriced core rules VtM book, which I understand now exists only in pdf form for sales, did they ever get around to releasing any other books?
>>336273795
He's just fishing for (You)'s. The dyke spam should've clued us all in.
WUHH WUHH WUHH DEM CAMMY LAWS KEEPING US DOWN FUCK THAT THEY CANT JUST TELL US WHAT TO DO WHY CANT WE JUST GO AROUND BREAKING THE MASQUERADE AND FUCKING OVER ALL KINDRED JUST LIKE LAST TIME BECAUSE FUCK RULES RIGHT
>>336269016
Opening it.
>>336274453
You're not wrong. The Anarchs are the niggers of the Vampire world. Right or wrong, the Sabbat and Camarilla have successful ideologies and clear-cut goals. The Anarchs never accomplish shit. If the game was trying to be a bit more accurate, it should've had another Anarch cell bash into the Last Round and stomp Damsel and Skelter while Nines was out then graffiti the place.
>>336273165
You are the worst type of fan. Enjoy sitting in your shit while the rest of us enjoy having another game to play.
>>336274835
(You)
>>336274057
They're just bandwagoners, duck em
>>336273506
Not really, this has been happening with the PnP for decades but people just stick with the edition they prefer and band with people who are of similar mind. Which looks like it's going to happen again with the new editions coming out.
Also Damsel best Bloodlines Waifu.
>>336275454
Forgotten to mention that new editions bring in new fans who are then educated by the big groups of people who prefer the old editions why the older ones are better.
>>336273165
>Human Revolution killed Deus Ex
u wot m8
>>336274835
Avatarfagging is against the rules anon
>>336275454
Damsel's middle of the pack at best.
Velvet Velour > Venus Dare > Therese/Jeanette > Damsel > Heather Poe > Pisha > Ming Xiao > That Old Lady from the Diner > Imalia the Nosferatu >>> Yukie
>>336273165
>same way success of Human Revolution killed Deus Ex
Wtf? Not being as good as original =/= killing a franchise
>>336274057
No it doesn't. When a new game in a franchise comes out and the old fanbase hates it, that same fanbase recognises why the previous game was much better, along with all the characteristics that make it good. If a newer fanbase prefers the newer game, well, that's a matter of perspective. Bottom line, the fanbase isn't just a hivemind, there are different opinions for every game.
>>336275454
>Also Damsel best Bloodlines Waifu.
This nigga knows what's up, both opinion wise and waifu wise. Listen to this man.
>>336269016
He was just grabbing for power. Even the Camarilla didn't like him.
VTMB had such a good plot that's still relevant today. I hope a good sequel is made, or a similar game but with the Technocracy.
>>336275691
It moved Deus Ex towards being a safe bet instead of a daring mess.
>>336276531
>Even the Camarilla didn't like him.
That's not known. The only opinion we have on it is Strauss, who wants his job. And that's sort of the whole point of the Camarilla.
The neonates want to be the ancillae who want to be the whip who want to be the primogen who want to be the prince who want to be the archons who want to be the justicars who want to be the inner circle who want to be inconnu who want to be antideluvians who want to be Caine.
>>336276071
>Putting Damsel ahead of 3 used whores as waifu material
You need to have a serious examine of your taste. Although if your list was of the best Slutfus then I'd agree with it.
>>336276963
Didn't Strauss communicate with other Camarilla who supported him supporting the PC to take out LaCroix at one point? Or was that another Tremere?
>>336277245
>road weary 1920's Depression leader
>seen some shit Vietnam vet
>literal high seas pirate
>college liberal bra-burning commietrash self-appointed "den mother"
Even the other Anarchs seem fed up with the bitch.
>>336277717
She's still young, her mind will change when she realises how and why the Anarchs/Comunism will never gain any ground. It's why a lot of Barons change to Princes over the years.
>>336278415
We don't know how old she is. She could be the oldest one in that Anarch cell. And Cainites aren't known for sudden shifts in their world views.
No, she'll be an insufferable commiecunt for centuries to come. Besides, who picks a waifu predicated on the hope that maybe someday down the road they stop being shit?
>>336278415
Nah, the curse of vampirism is that your world-view basically stays the same.
Minds never change. Insufferable cunt now, and she'll stay one forever.
>best path gets the worst ending
Fucking Jack ruined everything.
>>336278835
>>336278953
Fair points, but at least she isn't known for being with everyone in Hollywood like VV and Jeanette who are both just as annoying as Damsel. Which makes her the better Vampfu.
>>336279296
I tailor all my paths to the clan I'm playing.
Ventrue: Stick with the only other Ventrue in-game, LaCroix. We ride that casket to hell together like true Blueblood bros.
Brujah: Anarchs all day, erryday.
Tremere: Like the Ventrue, you have to side with the only other clanmate there is. Team Camarilla.
Toreador: All Toreador in-game are Anarchs, and one of them is even an Anarch Baron. I generally associate this clan with Camarilla, but fuckit, when in Rome. Anarchs.
Gangrel: No dog in this fight, Beckett's neutral, so I'm neutral. Real gratifying to flip off Nines and the Anarchs at the end.
Nosferatu: This is the only populated Camarilla clan in the game with a full five other Cammie Nossies. Go-Go Camarilla.
Malkavian: This is the only tough call. There WAS a Malkavian Primogen, but you never got to meet him. There IS a Malkavian Baron, but she's trying to join the Camarilla (or not, depending on personality). But there's no real pull one way or the other. I generally go independent just 'cause.
>>336279359
VV doesn't sleep with anyone. That's her shtick as a Toreador. Gets you ramped up and leaves you blue-balled. Only Jeanette is a full on vamp degenerate that actually has sex. And she only gets high mark placement because of Therese. Who has the body of Jeanette and that cold demeanor that says unless you're her sweaty father creeping into her bed at night, it's not for you. Patrician-class waifu.
>>336278415
Vampires don't tend to change, she might still continue as a commie, but this time a more knowledgeable and more bent on making it work(think of it as her changing from a left-com/libertarian to a more Marxist-Leninist stance). Older Brujah are known for being idealists and more pragmatic.
>>336275454
characters in this game had too little dialogue and interaction
people love damsel, but you barely get to talk to her at all.
>>336280376
Golden Gary said she was known as "Miss Would do anything for 300 dollars" in an email on the poster quest. She's been around.
>>336280870
Younger Brujah: DEM EVIL WHITIE CAMARILLA FUCKS BE KEEPIN US DOWN!
Older Brujah: YOU EVER HEAR OF CARTHAGE? WE WUZ KINGS N' SHIET. EVIL VENTRUE PRE-CAMARILLA FUCKS KEEPIN US DOWN EVEN BACK THEN!
And then both go and declare war on another Anarch cell because Brujah, and by extension the whole Anarch movement are a bunch of niggers.
>>336281205
You can blame Troile for Brujah being a bunch of easily excitable people. But many Brujah still prize intelectual discussion and might not just go the full "WE WUZ KINGS N SHIET".
It also should be noted that they, along with the assamites, where one of the clans most affected by the Baali.
>>336282109
Even the most reserved scholar is still at a 2 point higher difficulty to resist frenzy. They're the hedgenobles of the High Clans.
Ventrue = Tzimisce > Lasombra > Toreador > Cappadocian > Brujah
>>336282428
I would rank the Ventrue lower and the Lasombra higher. The shadow clan is probably one of the most powerful and if they weren't so interested in bickering among themselves they could certainly take the leadership among all cainites.
