Dark Souls III daily lore thread.
Please discuss lore.
Tell me more about the untended graves
also can I kill the shrine handmaid there with no consequence
>>336261720
is this an Ornstein thread?
Why did nameless king have dragon slayer armor?
is he Ornstein ???
Vaati pls
>>336262118
>Tell me more about the untended graves
As said by Ludleth himself the untended graves is the original firelink shrine that was swallowed by the abyss.
>also can I kill the shrine handmaid there with no consequence
I think she doesn't drop her ashes but I could be wrong.
Daily reminder that these people did absolutely nothing wrong
>Lorian and Lothric
>Aldritch
>Pontiff Suluvahn
>Eygon
>Patches
>>336262559
>Pontiff
>did nothing wrong
Motherfucker was the one who thought it was a good idea to feed Gods to Aldrich, he's also the reason why Profaned Capital became ruins.
>>336262559
Correct on the first but the rest are scum. Patches is at his worst in DaS3.
>Buy all if Irina's miracles
>made sure not to buy any dark ones (just gave them to Karla)
>she disappears
>can't find her
Where the fuck did you go, I need another level up waifu
I just beat abyss watchers, and have slowly explored what I could through the game. (didn't know the covenant blue lady can be killed and you can item summon the dancer lady, gotta go back and do that)
Anyways, How far along percentage wise am I? Once again I JUST beat abyss watchers, that was a fun fight. Had to summon an npc.
>>336263402
Check the 1st boss spot in firelink shrine
>>336263556
>(didn't know the covenant blue lady can be killed and you can item summon the dancer lady, gotta go back and do that)
You go there automatically once you progress far enough in the game
>>336263556
You're still pretty early, keep following into the catacombs of carthus. Also don't kill the lady to summon the Dancer this early, believe me you're not prepared.
Who sent Oscar to rescue CU?
>>336262691
>Motherfucker was the one who thought it was a good idea to feed Gods to Aldrich
Wrong.
>he's also the reason why Profaned Capital became ruins.
Also wrong.
Aldritch decided to eat gods on his own. Profaned Capital is the ruined city Sulyvahn found underneath the tundra.
Lemme tell you what Sulyvahn did:
>Captured/Controlled the Profaned Flame
>Founded and built Irithyll
>Took a royal envoy from Gwyn's family and made her dance lewdly for him
>Took that same dancer and gave her mind breaking rings and sent her off as an exile
>Took over the Church of the Darkmoon when Gwyndolin became sick and named himself Pope.
>>336261720
THE PROTAG WAS ACCTUALLY DEAD THE WHOLE TIME
>>336262559
REEE delete this
aldrich took my cutie gwyndolin ;__;
>>336262559
>Eygon
Treaded blind waifu like shit
>patches
Literally tries to kill you.
>>336263730
>>336263745
Ah thanks. I took a dip into the catacombs area and holy shit that one skeleton with that hat on just standing in the corner scared the shit out of me. Killed him and turns out he's the one controlling that fucking bone ball that wrecked my shit because I figured those things wouldn't travel UPHILL.
Vaati stop making ''secret'' episodes please and make more lore just steal some shit like you always do and pump out the videos
>>336261720
There are like 3 Bloodborne threads up, all saying DaS3 is inferior to it.
find a flaw
>>336264037
Encountering that first bone ball was one of my favorite moments in 3.
>see bolder rolling down a long flight of stairs
>oh good, this again
>let it roll past, run expecting another one to follow shortly
>instead nothing
>suddenly the fucking thing comes rolling back up the stairs and scares the shit out of me
>>336264247
Not mute, doesn't let me level up at a bonfire, isn't on fire, isn't a bonfire.
>>336264076
He can't, he's still waiting for someone here to figure shit out.
>>336262559
Is Aldrich the most evil and fucked up character in the entire series?
>>336263402
firelink tower where sword faggot is
>>336264247
Do gestures next to her and fall in love
What was the purpose of the champion gundyr fight?
You break a wall and go back in time, kill the champion before he becomes a hilt, and take the coiled fragment, blacksmith hammer, and fire keeper eyes...
I just dont get it. What am i missing...
Half the areas in the game seem unnecessary.
>>336263402
Check the tower that Sword Master was standing in front of.
>>336264418
Who else makes good lore videos? and has a decent voice
>>336264425
Not really.
You should be able to relate to him, really, you've been doing the same thing for 3 games in a row now, albeit maybe a little less gleefully.
>>336262338
So what does that make the current firelink? When I first got to the abyss firelink I freaked out a bit since something the handmaid said made me think it was all an elaborate hoax or something. Firelink is the only place you can't physically travel to. She mentions already being held captive or something to that effect so it just vaguely gives me the idea that the abyss ending might have already occurred and we were essentially playing an alternate timeline or an alternate dimension that just shows how unkillable the first flame is. Then the firkeeper mentions something about our grand betrayal and I'm even more confused.
>>336264684
I didn't know I had been slowly eating children alive for all this time
>>336264549
You got it backwards.
Your Firelink Shrine is back in time. Untended Graves is what it's like in the present.
>>336263895
And he corrupted my beautiful Dancer, I hate him too.
>>336264425
Pontiff
So I just want to say Company Captain Yorshka makes no fucking sense is a walking Retcon. She says she's a daughter of Gwyn, but not even vaguely referenced in Dark Souls 1. Somehow, she took over the Blades of the Darkmoon from Gwyndolin, doesn't even seem to care that Gwyndolin's dead. Come to think of it, why didn't she fight off Aldrich and Sulyvahn? And worst of all, she's partly dragon. Which makes the idea that she's related to Gwyn fucking laughable because Priscilla had to hide in the Painted World so Ornstein didn't kill her ass.
>>336264834
You've been absorbing other powerful people and creatures into yourself in order to fight off the spread of the abyss. Same concept, different methods.
>>336264761
That's because it is, the original firelink was swallowed by the abyss, in a last effort Ludleth linked the fire and changed the timeline so we're now sitting in a completely fine firelink. It's implied that the abyss ending happened during Ludleth cycle, but as Aldia said in DaS2 the flame never fades out entirely, even when the abyss consumes everything there will still be a a little left of the flame so that one day someone can link the fire again.
>>336264545
>>336264247
>>336262338
>swallowed by the abyss
>zero crazy bloated humanity crazed monsters, just errant hollow
That's no abyss, that's just the pure, untainted dark in absence of flame.
>>336264987
>>336264913
She doesn't say she's a daughter of Gwyn. She claims Gwyndolin is her elder brother. We don't know if it's true, and it doesn't necessarily mean Gwyn is her father.
>>336262337
Nameless King is pretty much confirmed to be Gwyn's firstborn based of his soul and weapon descriptions. He has dragon slayer armor because he was once a dragon slayer and was Ornstein's mentor. Ornstein's armor description in DaS3 implies Ornstein left Anor Londor in search of the firstborn/nameless king.
My own theory is that you find Ornstein's armor there because he went in search for Nameless and fought with Nameless to try to bring him back and got his shit fucked up
>>336264247
When she said I tend to the flame, and tend to thee.
i got a boner best waifu :3
>>336265079
>that's just the pure, untainted dark in absence of flame
Nigga that's literally what the abyss is, the absence of flame.
>>336264913
>She says she's a daughter of Gwyn
That doesn't mean sh'es being truthful.
> Somehow, she took over the Blades of the Darkmoon from Gwyndolin
She specifically was given that role by Gwyndolin
>Doesn't even seem to care that Gwyndolin's dead
Completely wrong.
> why didn't she fight off Aldrich and Sulyvahn?
She's hiding in a tower because she's literally a clueless naive and sheltered little baby
>. Which makes the idea that she's related to Gwyn fucking laughable because Priscilla had to hide in the Painted World so Ornstein didn't kill her ass.
Wow. Your understanding of lore is fucking GARBAGE. The Painted World is a land of exiles. She was exiled because of her Lifehunt ability.
Just fucking leave the thread. You hardly understand lore from 2010, there's no way you're gonna understand newer lore from 2016.
Gwyn is a cuck, his wife fucked a dragon
>>336265079
>That's no abyss, that's just the pure, untainted dark in absence of flame.
That's literally what the Abyss is
>zero crazy bloated humanity crazed monsters, just errant hollow
That only happened in Oolacile because of Manus. New Londo was completely fine until Gwyn got scared and flooded the place, so the Darkwraiths who were simply Undead got soaked for hundreds or thousands of years and fused to their armor.
>>336265225
>twin princes hid themselves away from their crazy dad and responsibilities
>the only thing in the room besides themselves is a giant bed
>they cuddle to power up
Jesus christ
>>336265225
Nah m8 the abyss is what happened to oolacile with all the creeping black shit sticking to sides of buildings and humanity sprites popping up. It's what happens when you fuck with napping Manus cause some serpent fucker told you so. The dark firelink is completely unlike that.
>>336265067
Thanks, I had already sacrificed Ludleth by the time I got there and forgot he could be a factor. This clears up alot.
Who was that voice at the end of the Aldritch boss fight?
>>336264247
She doesn't have a femininepenis :^)
I was thinking about the illusions in Anor Londo, with DaS3 showing us that Ornstein left to find the Nameless King, and that we probably fought an illusion of him.
If I recall correctly, there's nothing stopping you from killing Gwyndolin before getting to Gwynevere and getting the Lordvessel, right?
What happens if you do that?
>>336264921
It's actually completely different in concept too. i'm not feeding off the agony of small children, I'm eating "souls", whatever that is, of monsters and people that are already dead and can't feel anything
>>336262949
>secretly has a bff he cares for and goes out of his way to rescue
>gets upset about the giants being dead if you already killed them when he lowers you down
DaS3 Patches is the one iteration of him that makes it look like he has a heart you dork
>>336264247
whore
>>336261720
i'd champion her ass, if you know what i mean
>>336265637
rude
>>336265260
>That doesn't mean shes being truthful.
She's probably just wrong but believes it to be true. Everything she knows is probably fed to her by gwyndolin
>>336265486
You mean the old lady? It's the woman that gives you the banner before Vordt and dies at your feet after you kill the last of the 3 lords.
>>336265539
Time is convoluted m8, you could have killed Gwyndolin, but it doesn't mean he would be dead in every other timeline.
What the fuck is an Unkindled and how is it different from an Undead? I mean, it's the same but there seems to be no drawbacks for dying as an Unkindled, they're basically immortal.
>>336265539
Anor Londo goes dark after Gwynevere dies, not Gwyndolin.
So what's the story behind blade dancer?
>>336265539
Nothing. You just don't get the dialogue for destroying the illusion pretty sure.
>>336265871
I think the unkindled are the undead that get resurrected to drag the lords back to their thrones.
>>336263895
>yfw your vore fetish goes to far and you eat your trap bf whole
>>336265871
They're not people, they're just a pile of animated ash that thinks it's people.
>>336265871
I think you're just a normal human who died normally, never had any dark sign pop up on you long ago. But since the lords of cinder refuse to go link the flame the bell of awakening is going crazy waking up everyone and their mother to try and find someone capable of gathering enough souls to link it.
>>336265078
>360 NO EYES MLG PRO
>>336265871
>What the fuck is an Unkindled and how is it different from an Undead?
Wow. How the fuck are you having trouble with this idea?
Unkindled are piles of ash that are resurrected by the Bell of Awakening with the purpose of finding Lords of Cinder to fuel a linking of the flame. Each one was a real person at some point. It's not different from an Undead because Unkindled and Undead aren't mutually exclusive states. In general though, you can't become Unkindled, but you can become undead. Most Unkindled are also Undead.
>>336264835
Then why was the Gundyr you fight uncorrupted?
>>336264835
What are you, fucking retarded?
Daily Reminder that you are actually in the past when you go to Archdragon Peak.
Lothric castle isn't built yet if you look at Anor Londo and the castle walls off in the distance.
You're looking at the same setting from Dark Souls 1.
So that is now at least two instances of time travel, Untended Graves and the Peak.
>>336265260
Wow, you are quite passionate about this, aren't you? This shitshow you call lore is not complicated, your fucking headcanons and misinterpretations make it complicated
>The Painted World is a land of exiles. She was exiled because of her Lifehunt ability.
Just outside of that Painting was a city full of experienced Dragon Hunters. I sincerely doubt she was there just because of exile.
Is the profaned capital what's left of Drangleic?
>>336261720
This was my first souls game and I accidentally killed the onion dude when I saw him because I thought he was an enemy. Should I restart or is it not that big of a deal?
>>336264835
This doesn't make any sense at all
>Beat Dragonslayer armor
>Bonfire
>another bonfire LITERALLY in throwing distance
>Locked Door leading to the grand archives
>body holding the key is 5 feet away from the door
>>336264247
Can't find what isn't there
>>336266218
Because the anon you replied to is full of shit. Ludleth talks about the past when you give the eyes you find in dark Firelink.
>>336264247
Shitty Mib ripoff.
Barely any lines.
No personality.
Bland design.
>>336266151
Bro, when are you going to admit that this shit isn't as well thought out as you think. The very idea of an Unkindled is stupid as hell because how the fuck are you undead but unable to hollow unless you have sigils?
>>336266272
>>336264835
We star trek now XD up to the mothership !
>>336262338
The original Firelink from the first game, you mean? So why does it not look almost anything like it? That would have been an interesting twist if it did.
What causes equivalences between souls.
Like, why is a crestfallen knight's soul worth 20,000 regular souls?
Is it raw life energy of the inhabitant, or number of souls they've collected, or something else?
>>336266270
>>336266368
>>336266385
Coiled Sword Fragment
>Fragment of the coiled sword of a bonfire which served its purpose long ago.
The coiled sword is intact in your (past) Firelink Shrine. You find the fragment in Untended Graves.
>>336266318
>This shitshow you call lore is not complicated
Yet somehow you're too dumb to understand it.
>Just outside of that Painting was a city full of experienced Dragon Hunters. I sincerely doubt she was there just because of exile.
So, you're just going to ignore the official and canonical confirmation for why Priscilla was exiled?Are you forgetting how Seath ran his fucking research just up the hill from this city of Dragonslayers? Your logic is trash.
>>336266471
>how the fuck are you undead but unable to hollow unless you have sigils?
Because the nature of the curse and hollowing is different now. I bet the DLC will have some information on it.
>>336266370
>guy locks doors
>guy walks away
>guy gets killed
>guy is dead 5 feet from door
???
>>336266370
The bonfire thing is dumb but the key only spawns after 3 lords die incase you did the dancer skip
>>336266029
They were clearly people at some point, each class has a backstory as usual.
>>336262338
All she dropped for me was the ring. The red one that gives you bonus stats.
>>336266367
He has a pretty cool questline (which is easy to follow, unlike most questlines in this game), so I'd say yeah, you're really early in the game anyway.
>>336266537
Oh, Jesus Christ. Somebody post the video of the Shrine Handmaiden recognizing you if you spoke to her in the Dark Firelink first.
>>336265960
Some minor goddess who was made into a personal dancer for the Pontiff. Who was then exiled and corrupted with the gear he gave her to use and wear.
I mainly play games with cheats to enjoy the lore.
Is this game fun with cheats and is the lore good?
>>336266359
Eleum Loyce actually.
>"The Profaned Capital was consumed by fire after Yhorm the Giant became a Lord of Cinder. The fire, born of the sky, is said to have incinerated naught but human flesh. "- Profaned Flame Pyromancy
>"Lonely Yhorm became a Lord of Cinder to put the Profaned Flame to rest, knowing full well that those who spoke of him as lord were quite insincere." - Cinders of a Lord
>"Yhorm is the descendant of an ancient conqueror, but was asked by the very people once subjugated to lead them" - Souls of Yhorm the Giant
>"Yhorm the Giant once held two of these, but gave one to the humans that doubted him, and left the other to a dear friend before facing his fate as a Lord of Cinder." - Storm Ruler
>"The Profaned Flame was triggered by the curse of these women, relatives of a certain oracle, but despite their culpability, they went on living, without any cares." - Eleonora
>"The formal gold stitching suggests they may have also been oracles." Court Sorceror Robe
>"The court sorcerers used this scroll to claim heirship to Logan's legacy, though how that claim stands up to closer scrutiny is another story." - Logan's Scroll
>"Remnants of the fire that burned down the Profaned Capital, preserved in an icy skull." - Profaned Coal
>"The jailers were among the few survivors inhabiting the Profaned Capital, later serving under Pontiff Sulyvahn. Perhaps the screams emanating from the cells help them forget their old home." - Jailer Set
>"Long ago, when Sulyvahn was yet a young sorcerer, he discovered the Profaned Capital and an unfading flame below a distant tundra of Irithyll, and a burning ambition took root within him." - Profaned Greatsword
It's Eleum Loyce. Alsanna is the Oracle. The Profaned Flame was the Chaos Flame before it was cursed by Court Sorcerers. You find the Alonne Greatbow, Gilligan's corpse and the Greatshield of Glory. Alva the Seeker and Karla are in the dungeon.
>>336266537
The hand maiden will recognize you if you don't talk to her at all in firelink, talk in the intended graves first, then speak with her at firelink, recognizing you from the past
>>336266367
Hes kinda an iconic guy from souls games he gives you a few gestures and his armor + sword but his questline is hard to follow without a guide because you will miss him a few times screwing up the questline
so unless u want his armor and sword just keep going
>>336266272
seems legit
>>336266537
The coiled sword isn't in your Firelink, it's in Iudex Gundyr.
Try again.
>>336266537
There is fucking ton of coiled swords all around the world
Literally every single bonfire has one you dense fuck
>>336266579
Seath was specifically under Gwyn's protection. Without him they wouldn't have won the war.
>>336265078
goddam i'm in love
>>336266471
Your character doesn't have the darksign maybe. But then again I heard the whole unkindle thing came about, because people didn't like the fact that being hollowed penalized you so they made the penalized version the base and added kindling at the bonus.
>2 sequels later
>still don't know shit about the serpent's intentions despite them seemingly being a big part of the story
>still don't know shit about Velka
>still no real way to stop the flame from constantly dying and fucking shit up
How can anyone possibly be interested in this at this point? The only thing we can talk about is utterly uninteresting fluff.
>wait for le DLC!!!
At least you could fucking understand the story in BB without having to shell out for DLC months down the line.
>>336266435
sounds perfect
>>336265871
Not sure if I'm right here, but here's my few thoughts. In the first Dark Souls when you kindle a bonfire you're sacrificing humanity to increase the fire's strength. If the player is "unkindled" then they might not have any humanity to them (since the dark soul of manus where humanity originated as since faded/gone out). Basically an unkindled may be an undead without humanity.
>>336266735
>>336266870
Damn you guys have opposite opinions on his quest line lol.
I did get his armor as a drop after I killed him. I forget if I got the sword as well. Meh, I might as well restart since I kinda fucked up my build anyways when I had no clue what I was doing.
>>336266952
>Seath was specifically under Gwyn's protection
What and Priscilla wouldn't be? You're aware that she's probably directly related to Seath right? If they wanted her dead, they'd have killed her. Instead they just locked here away in a pocket dimension.
>>336266537
Coiled swords are literally every bonfire tho.... and isn't our coiled sword in the boss dude
>>336267061
You can respec later, but doing so will fail another one.
>>336267010
>still no real way to stop the flame from constantly dying and fucking shit up
That's the point, Linking the fire is just delaying the inevitable; it's the bad end.
>>336266905
Also the sky isn't red. It's normal here, further indicating its different.
>>336266272
>archdragon peak
>not literally a dream
read the dragon body stone description
>>336266525
probably something like soul level.
>>336267010
Sometimes stories are better when there's mystery and stuff is left to interpretation.
>>336266370
>body holding the key only appears after killing all other lords of cinder
Why would the game lock you out of the archives and Lothric prince like that? Fucking dumb.
>>336267010
>flame constantly dying
I think thats the point. No flame burns forever.
The purpose of fire is to bring warmth and light, if only for a short amount of time.
The fire was made, and it is the undead that wish to keep it alive, because it gives them warmth when they have none otherwise.
They struggle to keep it burning, but their attempts are met with meager results.
>>336266525
Raw life energy, which is a combination of other factors such as soul level, souls held, race, ect..
>>336267010
>still don't know shit about Velka
Why the fuck would we? We don't know anything about Lloyd or Flann either. She has absolutely no significance to anything, a bunch of lorefags just started circlejerking about her for no reason at some point.
SUP MAN.
NICE HEALTH.
NICE EMPTY BLEED STATUS.
NICE STAMINA.
NICE SOULS.
DON'T MIND ME, GONNA JUST RUSH AROUND THROWING KUKIRI AND BLEED-STACKING YOU WHILE I LEAP AND DODGE AND SWERVE YOUR ATTACKS.
WHAT'S THAT? DIDN'T COMBO ME DEAD? HO BOY! HOPE YOU LIKE TO DANCE MOTHERFUCKER.
OH, WE'RE IN SMOLDERING LAKE? LOOKS LIKE MY TWIN BROTHER IS COMIN! GET READY FOR RAPE MOTHERFUCKER.
Dark Souls 3 has some of the most frustrating enemies I've ever seen in any Souls game by far. The input reading and perfect attack-stagger tandem rats pull off is fucking ridiculous.
>>336267250
Eh, people have been linking the fire for thousands of years by DaS3. Seems to work just fine except for the moments when the fire begins to fade and needs to be kindled again.
>>336267010
That's exactly what dark souls is its like one of those old movies which never gives you a real ending and leave you in the dark to use your imgantion what happened
>>336265078
epitome of cute
>>336267010
The primordial serpents appear again in DaS3 in the form of statues all over Lothric. Oddly enough they have little angelic wings, which lead me to believe they're the angels referenced in the game.
>>336267516
Eh, they weren't so bad.
>>336267060
An unkindled is an undead who died again at the fucking fire.
How is this hard to understand
>>336267280
Does anybody else dislike the red sky when it appears?
None of the other areas baked lighting even changes. Its the same greenish / gray but with a red sky.
Kind of dumb.
>>336267250
May as well say that eating is pointless because you're just going to die eventually anyway.
>>336267516
i like how most enemies also hit you for half health or more unless its a little hollow soldier
explain that lorefags
Why does Yuria specifically want Orbeck dead? He's just a sorcerer chilling around the shrine that leaves after you buy all his shit
>>336267516
Come on son, those skeletons stagger easily and don't have that much health.
>>336267516
Not to mention some of them reanimate.
>>336267601
Was taken off guard by this.
>>336266370
The guy is one of the npcs you can summon for boss fight
And that sorcery merchant (Orbeck?) is found dead inside the Archive
Orbeck is found right before the first crystal Sage and there is a crystal Sage in the Archive
These all point to something but I dont know what it is
>>336267516
These weren't hard on my Knight STR build or Guts run, but holy fuck did they enrage me on my Pyro run.
I also get what you're saying. I'm pretty sure rats are programmed when in groups to start tandem-tapping your ass until you get staggered to death or until you roll out.
>>336267519
Thousands of years isn't that long in Darksouls, eventually the fire has to fade, best option is to find an alternative to bring in a new age.
Lothric did nothing wrong
>>336261720
>>336266841
I never played DS2's DLC so thanks for this!
>>336267323
>Gaining items in a dream
>>336267653
>None of the other areas baked lighting even changes. Its the same greenish / gray but with a red sky.
But that's wrong
>>336267776
2spooky
>>336267695
It's because you're a shitty Unkindled who hasn't gotten gud
>>336267653
It felt fairly out of place.
It made sense in Bloodborne, as we're experience one terrible night from beginning to end, but seeing the sky change in one or two areas in DaSIII (at the end of the game no less) just felt unnecessary.
>>336267776
>tfw you'll never cuddle forever with your waifu in everlasting darkness
>>336267776
>Think it's just the screen fading to black as usual
>It's actually the entire world being devoid of light and you're just there now, in complete darkness
Real fucking spooky.
>>336267776
>>336267849
It gives you WOOO
>>336264247
No ass.
Literally.
>>336266537
Can a person hage this low iq
>>336267516
Literally everything in Arch Dragon Peak is worse.
>dagger serpents that juke your attacks and lock you into a 4-5hit combo
>that neck swipe
>the huge 2h axe serpents that roll your shit like a fucking dung beatle
>the axe-tossers who aren't too bad
>the rolling stone lizards that are impossible to not get hit by
>fucking Ricard
>that stretch with every type of serpent enemy coming to you
>if you don't kill them quick enough you're fucked
Arch Dragon Peak almost broke me on my Pyromancer.
>>336267776
>people actually choose the bullying the fire keeper ending
if you did this ending you deserve to be cursed forever
>>336267897
you gained items from the dreams in dark souls 2
>videogames
>>336268168
Dem knees though.
>>336267653
Not true. The lighting changes slightly.
Not all for it though, it makes areas that otherwise looked pretty nice look really fucking ugly and garrish.
I personally hated how the world looks post-3 lord souls. The red sky ruins so many areas atmosphere.
>>336267667
comparison only works if you had an alternative to eating. If linking the fire was the only option then sure it's a fine choice; what's the harm in delaying the inevitable , but save for the atrocity that is darksouls 2 you always have a 2nd option.
>>336267828
except riding his brother
>>336268238
>/v/irgin triggered by people bullying his waifu
Plz
>>336267776
this ending spooked the fuck out of me
i dont know what i wanted, but i didnt want pitch black all encompassing fucking dark
>>336268068
You could still hear your ashen one's footsteps if you tried moving just before the last line.
N E A T
>Meet qt knightfu that loves me even though I look like beef jerky
>Yuria says Im gonna get married shortly
>Show up to my wedding, and its just a bed
>time2fugg.tif
>Stab my sword through her face
>Become even more beef jerky
>Have no qt wife
I dont understand the lore behind the usurping plotline... Can someone run it down for me?
>>336268207
Invading in archdragon peak is fun so many monsters so many dead ends its like 99% guaranteed win
>>336268274
>dark souls 2jk I'm playing it right now
>>336267396
Then why bother with sequels? Both DaS1 and 3 have almost the same fucking story. Both DaS2 and 3 show that individual events in each game don't matter and everything is part of an endless rehash cycle of the same souls constantly being thrown back out into the world. There's not much mystery when we know that pretty much nothing in DaS has any consequence or matters in any way.
>>336268451
Anri is royalty, gotta be a lord to usurp the flame cause reason. The marriage is solely to that end.
>>336268451
It's just a weird ceremony they came up with for no apparent reason. Anri is alive again during the ending cutscene, so whatever.
>>336268451
>Have no qt wife
But that's wrongAnri is beside Yuria when you become Lord of all Hollows
>>336268451
You Betray your waifus for political power.
The end
>>336268451
Anri is beef jerky inside the helmet too m8, look it up.
>>336268492
>invade at the Belfry Tower on my Guts character
>host runs off towards the twinkling dragon body shrine
>HO BOY
>start hiding behind all the enemies
>host tries fighting them
>run up and ravage his asshole
Felt like a dick, but it was pretty funny.
>>336261720
Why are all the burial gifts besides the ring of life comparatively useless/worthless? Why even include most of the others as options. Besides the extra souls option I don't see any other viable choice.
>>336268451
You're going to become a lord, lords need a spouse so you married your waifu.
What do you do when you get married where you're from? Not stick a sword through your wives face?
No impregnation ending?
DLC better add this.
>>336261720
Oh boy, the fanfic thread!
Friendly reminder to not use estus in a fair 1v1 duel when either person has put down their summon sign.
Fuck me how do some people still not get it.
>>336268207
Speaking of Archdragon Peak, why is Havel there?
>>336268702
Coins can be nice if you want something early on.
But yeah Gifts suck in this game
>>336268451
You need to be goddamn dick to become le Trump of Dark souls world
After you accumulate enough curse and dark holes you finllay become edge lord of Dark Souls after faggit fire fades away
>>336268851
Because dragons anon.
>>336264247
Just how old is she?
>>336268424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1kvgxgBexU
have a nice thread, nerds. bye
>>336268813
Reminder that the stairs leading down in the Pontiff PVP areas have gaps on either side, and if your summoner uses estus, just take a big fucking leap off
>>336268851
>>336268813
>opponent didn't bow before fight when summoning him from sign
aaaaaand disconnected
>>336268702
The only one that's actually useful isn't the ring of life, that thing is by far the most worthless. Young White Branch at least makes it so the giant never throws spears at you even if you don't talk to him.
>>336268851
Why does his gear appear on the asylum demon bridge for no reason when he dies?
>>336268851
Killing dragons for their teeth I presume.
>mfw the drakeblood summoner summoned a havel today
I was so confused. Not sure if bug or not.
>>336268851
I have a better question, why is that when you kill Havel his armor shows up in the other side of the world?
>>336268851
He went there with Ornstein.
>>336266435
this desu
no one will ever replace my welsh-fu
>>336265104
>Ornstein's mentor
You mean his father.
>>336268274
Fair enough.
Regardless of whether its a dream or not its still taking place in the past.
>>336266009
Does that mean Gwynevere is an illusion casting other illusions?
What if the entire world is just an illusion created by the first flame?
>>336269061
That's where he was hanging out doing the path of dragons gesture so he could get up all in archdragon peak and kill fire breathing lizards.
>>336269010
Considering you get his ring by transposing that demon's soul, it could be that the demon on the bridge was one of Havel's knights at some point.
He's also covered in rock, like Havel's shield lets you do, and none of the other demons are like that.
>>336268885
MAKE LOTHRIC GREAT AGAIN
>>336269020
It summoned havel the very first time I went there. Always confused me that it's never happened again across like 3 other characters.
>>336269010
>>336269061
Oh yeah, that was dumb. I guess there's a relation with the Stray Demon since his soul gives you Havel's ring, but I don't get it.
>>336262118
The Untended Graves isyour Firelink Shrine from a future where you choose to put out the fire. Notice how everything is its place, like Orbeck's books, Andre's stuff and his hammer, etc
>>336265630
he kills Greirat if you send him to Irithyll, dummy
>>336269256
The snake summons are random.
I got a drakeblood knight then Ricard then Havel.
>>336269293
Maybe the real Havel became the Stray Demon? And the Havel you fight in Archdragon Peak is just an impostor?
>>336268451
All I know is that instead of becoming fuel for the first flame, you absorb it into you instead due to your dark sigil. So you become something else.
Also the sun is still there but it's white behind the solar eclipse now.
Please fuck off.
No, please seriously fuck off. Take this self righteous circlejerking to to /vg/, please.
>>336268702
I picked the black fire bombs and killed the unchikatana faggot with them. Then I became a faggot myself.
>>336269020
I invaded a guy and he also had a havel in his game at in the first room and then he used seed of giant
good times in dragon peak
>>336266537
Time is convoluted. The past and Future merged in Dark Firelink.
What people do not realize is that the real and present Firelink is the version Kiln of the first flame.
Everything other person is a projection made by the first flame to act as a center for the linking ritual.
>>336269167
Thete are no suggestions that say this
If he is the son of Nameless king he would be royalty and in hloodline of Gwyn
But orstein is just a fucking knight like smough and other knight buddies
>killing Orbek
Serioulsy?
>>336269456>
>not parrying him off the cliff
>>336269526
Smough isn't and never was a knight
>>336269526
His ring states he's the son of the firstborn.
>>336269435
>self righteous circlejerking
I can't even imagine the world from your viewpoint
>>336268207
>roll your shit like a dung beetle
Nice
>>336264247
She is a submissive.
![Smough_Hammer[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/CU5hbRA.png "Smough_Hammer[1].png")
>>336269618
m8
>Twisted great Hammer associated with Smough, the last knight to remain at his post, guarding the ruined cathedral.
>>336269526
Wasn't smough a ''royal'' executioner and not a knight
>>336269618
He was A knight, he just wasn't one of Gwyn's knights (AKA The elite four)
>>336269646
No it doesn't.
>Ornstein was the first knight of the sun's eldest born, and his cross spear is said to have pierced scales made of stone.
>>336269369
It's the past you retard.
>Lore
>>336263759
Nah Suly totally burned Yorm's citt when he was away for the kindling
Total dick move Suly
>>336269432
But I don't see how he would become a demon. Only the witches of Izalith created/became demons, and Havel didn't have anything to do with them, he was a friend of Gwyn who was locked away.
>>336269369
Already disproven.
Bishop Havel was once a person in DS1 times, but eventually people in the villages started meme shitposting and eventually there were a bunch of followers who dressed like Havel.
Havel ended up becoming more of a title.
>>336269846
I would pickle pee in her pump a rum if you know what I mean
>>336270001
Please explain more
>>336269930
We never did find out how the other demons came to be. We know that Bed of Chaos/the Chaos Flame was the source of them, but it never says if they just showed up from it, or if it turned other people into them.
>>336269435
>one of the few places on /v/ that actually discusses vidya
>FUCK OFF
>>336269716
>>336269751
Great hammer from the soul of executioner Smough, who guards the cathedral in the forsaken city of Anor Londo. Smough loved his work, and ground the bones of his victims into his own feed, ruining his hopes of being ranked with the Four Knights.
>>336262118
>Tell me more about the untended graves
The theory I heard basically came down to Gundyr trying to link the flame but being too slow, so Lundelt somehow created a stable timeloop so Unkindled can rise and fulfill the duty the champion could not.
>also can I kill the shrine handmaid there with no consequence
She comes back, doesn't drop shit and raises all her prices by 20% every time you murder her.
>>336261720
Why are the abyss watchers fighting each other? What's the deal with the red eye abyss watcher watcher? Why does he attack the other two watchers?
>>336269930
I was under the impression the demons were once people that were transformed into demons somehow by the witches, no?
![UZyt8Bx[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/1O5Mnfn.png "UZyt8Bx[1].png")
>no Dragonslayer Armor Armor
>>336269515
>the real and present Firelink is the version Kiln of the first flame
This clicks with me.
With the flame dying, the current state of the world is the mess you see around the Kiln.
Getting the Lords of Cinder is just a ritual that takes you to different places and times that the Flame draws from the jumble
>>336269369
No, it's the Firelink Shrine from the "present", where the fire already faded away. It will spread to the rest of lothric if you don't link the fire.
The Firelink shrine that acts as the hub is actually from a different timeline. Note how it's not actually connected to the other areas, you only get there via teleporting.
>>336269935
>Already disproven.
Unless it was by From, which I doubt, it wasnt.
>>336266660
>but the key only spawns after 3 lords die incase you did the dancer skip
which is REALLY dumb
why even let us fight the dancer early if you're going to arbitrarily lock out the second half of the castel
>>336270179
>Why are the abyss watchers fighting each other
I assume it's a fight club
>>336264247
She isn't Emerald Herald.
>>336270094
Always got the impression demons were the literal descendants of the witch of izalith, given the state of ceaseless discharge and the spider sisters. Or maybe they were people who got mutated and fucked up by being too close to the epicenter of the chaos flame when it was created.
>>336268018
It sort of makes sense in this one too, since the first flame is burning out
>>336270179
What do you think happens to a bunch of murder-happy Artorias fanboys that hang around the abyss too long?
>>336270179
The red-eyed ones are infested by the abyss. I mean this isn't exactly subtle.
>>336269716
>DaS 1 thought smough was goddamn dick psychopath who didnt even make cut to the e4
>DaS 3 he was the last to stay in the post no matter how pointless it was
The feels
>>336270290
because from set out to make the most linear souls game ever
![Zombie_swordsman[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/h6nEKxP.jpg "Zombie_swordsman[1].jpg")
>>336270179
Red glowing eyes = hollow.
Abyss Watchers fight each other to hone their skills, since they can't die anyway.
>>336270307
>It's May 2nd
>Fighting with my abyss watchin homies, duking it out since we can respawn and shit.
>Almost about to come out on top.
>Some dickhead crashes the party.
>It ain't me starts playing.
>>336262118
Untended Graves is Firelink Shrine in Lothric's present.
It's hard to say exactly what that makes Firelink Shrine, but it is most likely in the future because the handmaiden is older there.
Someone somewhere is probably cheating the system.
>Fire is going out.
>No Lords of Cinder to rekindle it.
>Wake up an unkindled one.
>Fool it into going into the past and bringing those Lords of Cinder to the future, because the Champion of Ash (Champion Gundyr perhaps) from that age never suceeded.
>Fuck up all sorts of timelines.
>>336270094
>>336270184
I don't remember, but I guess people becoming demons is possible. It's interesting, it's another thing that was also in Berserk.
>>336270124
So he was probably on par with, or a higher rank than silver knights, since it says "last knight" etc to stand guard and "can't be one of the four knights"
>>336269563
He threatened to leave me. I dont approve of my family leaving me once they join.
Now he lives forever inside the maiden forever a part of my family.
>>336270386
>The hollows' veins look like tree roots
I noticed this only now
