ITT: Inexcusable and undefendable decisions by game companies.
>>336243448
>mfw it was another fucking sticker star
>>336243448
Between this and Federation Force I've come to accept never getting another F-Zero because I'd be afraid of what they'd do to it.
>>336244069
>mfw my friends are defending it and hushing me up when I try to voice my opinion on it
>Sticker Star sells like liquid gold
>They continue in the same direction
How exactly is this a bad decision?
Why the fuck did the go back to using the car mechanic!? Noone liked it in MP9, what the fuck.
>>336244472
It sounds good on paper I guess? But let's be honest, maybe 10 people actually didn't hate Nintendo's guts to do it.
>>336244472
>Sticker Star sells like liquid gold
It was literally $10 new at Gamestop at one point. It was Other M status as far as sales go; stores couldn't get rid of their copies.
>>336244374
You should get non-retard friends.
>>336244069
THERE IS STILL SOME HOPE LEFT!
>>336244606
I should but apart from their Nintensheep attitudes they're cool.
>>336244547
The developers are convinced that separate characters is a bad thing because they think people doing like "waiting around doing nothing" while other players take their turns.Guess who the certain producer at Nintendo pushing this is.
![[HorribleSubs] Netoge no Yome wa Onnanoko ja Nai to Omotta - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_08.26_[2016.04.29_12.16.35].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TFQDlSX.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Netoge no Yome wa Onnanoko ja Nai to Omotta - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_08.26_[2016.04.29_12.16.35].jpg")
I'm not gonna defend that.
But Sticker Star was NOT a bad game. It was a mediocre game. It's just that it disappointed a lot of people is all.
>>336244585
It has sold over 2 million copies lifetime. Check your facts next time.
>>336244444
>>336244770
>3ds
>2 million copies from a much anticipated game
son.
thats not a lot.
>>336244696
You should approach it in a less negative way.
For instance: "the game may be a huge improvement over Sticker Star, but from the flaws that it had they'd need to..."
Like 3D World over 3D Land.
>>336244704
people don't* like
>>336244732
No sticker star is mechanically a bad game.
It's an RPG that incentives you to actively avoid all random battles due to no exp or levels and limited stickers, bosses that require you to backtrack and find the maguffin to kill the boss removing any semblance of strategy, as bland a story as possible, no interesting characters, mediocre music, and cookie cutter NSMB garbage worlds.
There are no positives about the game. Every part is mediocre at best and trash at the worst.
>>336244472
>game sells under misconception (said misconception being that it would be like any previous PM game)
>fans are pissed
>"hey, we should do this again, it'll surely have the same result!"
It's a bad decision because fans are less likely to trust the series and buy on blind faith now. And if more people wait and see how the game is being received, and the game gets received like shit, they aren't going to buy it, and you aren't going to get two million sales.
>>336243448
Most Nintendo decisions ever since the wiiu release could fit the bill
>>336244896
It's about the same as TTYD's sales in ITS entire lifetime, which is now 12 years.
Something else to note is that Super Paper Mario sold less than 4 million despite the Wii's massive audience. I haven't calculated it but I'd say Sticker Star might have outperformed Super Paper Mario in sales to hardware ratio.
Face facts, Anon. Sticker Star was a success.
>>336244584
>It sounds good on paper
>>336245297
That doesn't mean it was good or well recieved
>>336245106
>I-it only sold because people thought it would be like a real Paper Mario game!
And how, pray tell, do you intend to prove that?
>>336244704
miyamoto?
>>336245480
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Mario:_Sticker_Star#Reception
>inb4 "But those don't count!"
>>336245663
Those don't count.
>Give Mario his basic hammer and jump attack.
>Make stickers the items,special moves, and pseudo badges all in one.
>Let you actually target enemies
I feel like that would improved things at least a little.
>>336245297
>3ds lieftime sales are currently at 70 million and not stopping
>gamecube lifetimes sales are at 20 ´million and stopped
face facts: you know shit about facts and bend the rules as long as they can be applied to you.
>>336245297
>TTYD
>2 millions on a 22 millions console
>SS
>2 millions on a 65 millions console, AFTER hitting bargain bin
>success
Nice try kid.
>>336245514
E-Reader was stupid but the Printer was a great idea, and entirely optional. It just never took off.
I have no idea what that other thing is.
>>336245095
The battle system isn't as flawed and unfun as you people make it out to be.
The only thing I found annoying was the difficulty spike. In my opinion, I didn't find the no exp that irritating. The character were mediocre, the music was great, and worlds weren't garbage tier, they were fine. I loved World 4.
>>336245501
not him but
With it's current trade in value
I mean JEEZ LOUIE ALBINO Mario games at least usually retain some value but apperantly Sticker star is flying out of peoples homes and BACK ON to shelves
You can get more for Dream Team these days and IT'S OLDER
>>336244704
This man?
>>336245663
>generally positive
>75%
in todays world, 75% means "nice try kiddo <smug anime girl>"
>>336245514
>printer
>bad idea
That shit was fucking amazing when I was 8, and had tons of fun with it.
The problem not having applications outside of the camera game
>>336243448
You're aware that the last two PM installments outsold the first two, right?
I mean, come on guys. A company making decisions based on what sold the most..? Oh the fucking humanity.
>>336245824
>Battle system
>not flawed
>Actively encourages you to avoid needless battle
wew lad
>>336245763
>>336245756
It hit two million in 2012, Anons. Long before the 3DS took off.
>>336245983
Don't tell me you don't want any coins.
>>336245763
That 2 million lifetime figure is from early 2013, when the 3DS was at 30 mil.
>>336245965
Pokemon GSC let you print pokedex files
>>336245979
Today, I shall remind them.
>>336246073
To buy more stickers I don't need because I don't need them because I'm not wasting them on battles I don't need to not waste my stickers?
>>336246073
I don't want any coins the game hands you far to many
>>336246008
Sorry, 2013 actually. Before Pokemon X and Y came out, though.
>>336246091
Really?
I was also retarded as an 8 year old, so I probably didn't realize a lot of what it could do. I think I might still have it somewhere in a closet or attic.
>>336244704
Waiting around doing nothing while other players take their turns is bad -- which is not to say the car is any better (I've never played 9/10) but there is room for improvement. It's not like anything interesting happens on someone else's turn 90% of the time and you can't plan (or have no reason to plan) what you're going to do on your turn.
>>336246130
They never uploaded an official trailer, they know the backlash is too big. But they're going to ignore it and release the game unaltered anyway
>>336246008
>when the 3DS already was at 47 million sales
you arent helping yourself here
>>336246130
How's that hashtivision playing out for you baldy
>>336246249
And it will still sell.
>>336246008
>>336246083
Nintendo releases updates of their best selling games every year. That's how we know how much Awakening sold.
Sticker Star hasn't appeared ever since.
>>336243448
This is the first time a favorite game series of mine has gone to shit
>>336246228
Nah don't worry you are still basically correct the only other thing i think you could print was your high score in Pkmn Yellow's Surfer mini game
>>336246306
yes, 1 million total, whihc does sound like a nice number for a 20 million userbase, but thats only because of the IP power Mario has.
>>336246240
The solution is easy as fuck:
Everyone uses the dices at the same time in split screen.
Events caused by this proceed in order.
>>336246345
And? A game dropping in sales after hitting it big is normal. It still doesn't change the fact that Sticker Star did incredibly well within a year of its release.
>>336246306
It will not even sell 1 million units, and that's terrible for a Mario game.
>>336246487
Screencapped.
>>336246456
It means that a FE game had far longer legs than a Mario one.
Do you realize how ridicolous it is?
SS must have sold little to nothing in the last 2 years.
>>336246240
>implying you shouldn't be thinking about what items to use, or what items anyone else is going to use
Step up.
>>336244584
>It sounds good on paper
>>336243448
While this is probably the case it's neither out nor have we seen anything about it
>>336246662
What does that matter?
The point is that Sticker Star actually did better than TTYD within a year.
>>336244584
>on Paper
>>336246893
On a platform with a bigger installbase.
And it did TERRIBLE lifetime on a platform with a much more big installbase.
>>336246361
It's just the first time for you? Lucky.
>>336245736
This would have made Sticker Star passable. next, they'd have to let Intelligent Systems work their magic and make a story as good as Super Paper Mario's.
but Miyamoto is a stubborn old man who refuses to acknowledge anything before the SNES for some reason.
>>336247178
As of March 31, 2013, Sticker Star sold 1.97 million while the 3DS was only at 31.09 million units.
>>336247730
Yeah, that's 9 millions more of what the GameCube ever sold.
>>336247934
Tell me the GameCube's sales as of March 31, 2005 and Thousand Year Door's sales at that point. This is what we are comparing. You are trying to compare 3DS in early 2013 to GaneCube LIFETIME. That is beyond stupid.
>>336248120
That would prove my point even more, are you stupid?
>>336248270
We're comparing sales per hardware unit for Thousand Year Door vs Sticker Star. I want to know how many units the GameCube sold as of March 31, 2005, and how many copies of Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door were sold by then. Is that so hard to comprehend?
>>336248659
Dig up those datas then.
I'm fine with knowing that TTYD has a sales to hardware ratio higher than what SS could ever dream of.
>>336249050
If you're so insistent that Thousand Year Door sold that much better, the burden of proof is on you.
>>336245824
>can't choose your target
>your attacks are predetermined by their order in the sticker book
It's the kind of shit you'd expect from an iPhone game, not a $40 Nintendo game
>>336245095
>mediocre music
Now this is shit taste
>>336245830
>You can get more for Dream Team these days and IT'S OLDER
Sticker Star was 2012
Dream Team was 2013
>>336251463
>sticker star is already 4 years old/going to be 4 years old
damn
