>angels are the bad guys
>>336242741
Makes sense, the plan "god" has may be different than the objectives of the protagonist. There is no reason to blindly follow him.
>>336242741
>the apocalypse is good
Fuck off Woxxy.
>>336242741
>Science is bad
>Magic is good
>Zipperhead game
>uses Christian themes
>You can't save her
>>336245080
No game does this. Not even Arcanum.
>>336245080
>Magic is made through science.
>Only one guy in the game realizes that calling it magic is wrong.
Why did they start calling it magic in the first place?
>>336245569
Pathologic does
The VN that that pic was based on kinda does
>>336245779
What VN?
>>336245814
Umineko
>>336245231
This actually has filthy heretics.
>>336242741
>Implying angels don't deserve a good spanking every now and then.
>>336242741
Well... they just follow orders. Illias was just so fucking jealous she turned crazy... So there's that.
Also, did you touch a fluffy tail today? You should.
>>336245779
that one were you manage an alchemy store too
>>336245914
BEATORICEEEEE
>>336243812
>There is no reason to blindly follow him.
Aside from being created by him, the fact you can be willed out of existence at any moment, and fighting him is absolutely futile?
>demons are good guys
What's the opposite of fallen angel?
>>336247046
Rising beast.
>>336246983
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT! BELIEVE IN YOUR OWN POWER, THE POWER TO CHANGE DESTINY!
>>336247139
>Changing destiny by defeating the being that not only created you but created the concept of destiny, life itself, everything that ever existed and will exist
This is a solid plan with no faults..
>>336242741
Hello Dean.
>Did you ever notice how in the Bible, when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel? Did you ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? A whole existence spent praising your God, but always with one wing dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?
>>336247281
Xenoblade Chronicles
>>336242741
#stopsaradomin
>>336247038
>Demon lord is the MC
>Demon lord is acts just like a normal rational dude
>Angels and heroes are psychotic bitches
>>336242741
Because it's edgy.
>>336242741
>Kingdom are the good guys
>Empire are the bad guys
>God is weak enough to be defeated by the protagonist
>He doesn't just will you out of existence
>>336242741
WORLD OF STRENGTH
>implying angels aren't just demons working for another boss
>>336247498
lucifer and his angels split from god because they were really angry and jealous at humans i think.
>>336245231
Deserved it
>>336247637
So when will Saradomin get killed?
>>336249769
Soon™
>>336242741
>Demons are the bad guys
>Angels are the bad guys
>Man pays the price for it
>>336246983
>fighting God is absolutely futile
>he's never played a JRPG in his life
>>336247046
Standing angel
Thanks to this thread I'd love to see a game where you fight yoyr way up t god only for him to just will you out of existence
>>336242741
>angels are the least fappable enemies in the series
>Idiots thinking God can just will people out of existence
Did you even pay attention in church?
Hell, if there's one thing in existence that can realistically kill god, it's humans.
>>336250941
God is literally omnipotent and exists outside of time and space, He created anything and everything that has, is, and will exist. You expect some humans with swords to be able to beat a being that not only created you but doesn't even neat to show himself to kill you where you stand? Hell, he turned an entire town into salt, including a woman who just looked at it in an instant.
>>336251356
The old testament is not canon. It's literally fanfiction.
And besides humans have the power of free will, which already puts us above angels and demons.
>>336246983
Fuck you. god is our bitch.
>>336252025
I hope to YHWH you're not implying the Old Testament is fanfiction but the New Testament isn't. Because it isn't opposites day.
>>336252025
>The old testament is not canon. It's literally fanfiction.
That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
>>336252302
Yes it is. The old testament is complete made-up fanfiction about God to scare people into submission.
The new testament is a book about the world's first hippie.
>>336247819
This is the shit that gets me. Shulk and his friends should be fucking DONE the moment you-know-who kills you-know-who.
>>336242741
>angels are the good guys
>angels are the good guys
>demons are the good guys
>humans are the bad guys
>>336247647
>>336247038
I really hate those scenarios
>>336242741
The nips really have something against God, don't they?
>>336253743
Buddhists still buttblasted Father Louis Frois won the debate against their leader and was buddies with Oda "The Buddhist Incinerator" Nobunaga.
>>336254152
What's his name again?
>>336246558
Ilias did nothing wrong you worthless fucking hedonist.
>>336254152
Why are Buddhists so shit?
>>336249562
She was the equivalent of an angry tin soldier. She never even fought the actual war
>>336254152
Was Nobunaga the first westaboo?
>>336245180
>SotN is bad
>>336252493
That is the one example you shouldn't use because he does not have that power even in-universe, in Xeno games the being that can normally be called a God isn't called so because of his omnipotence, he is normally just a high being from another dimension and in Xenoblade the actual God would have been Alvis and he couldn't do anything on his own, only take orders from the holder of the Monado.
While in Gears Deus isn't a god but a weapon made for planetary annihilation and the god himself could only act as a battery since he was locked into the Zohar.
in Saga the god was just a higher being who worked as a oberserver for the into our universe
And X we still don't really know what the fuck is wrong with the planet
>>336254583
Wasn't she just a messenger?
>>336251356
If god is all powerful why'd he have to destroy the tower of babel? He clearly fears humans.
>>336252445
According to who?
>>336246983
>implying you were created by him
>implying you can be willed out of existence at any moment
>implying fighting him is absolutely futile
I hate what the Abrahamic religions have done to people's perception of what a god is like. YHWH is like that annoying kid on the playground who immediatly resorts to using the everything-proof-shield, he's not a typical god by any means. In nearly every ancient religion the god's were powered by worshippers or acts in their name, only had power within their sphere of influence, and were fallible as fuck. They were just really powerful beings.
>>336254725
Yes and that also explains why he was so fucking effective, he was not afraid of arming his whole army with actual guns instead of just swords and bows
>>336255107
She was "The queens shadow". Basically Origa's personal body gaurd (Only training was being given a dagger and walk next to the queen at all times) who did the exact same job that custode does in "If the Emperor had a text to speech device."
So not only was she just a security blanket, but was also just the newspaper.
>>336255181
For shits and giggles, m8. That's what you do when you're omnipotent.
>implying all of creation isn't just a whim as random and inconsequential as a fart to a potentialy all-powerful intelligent creator
Probably willed himself high one day, created the universe, made up some physical rules to drive the inhabitants nuts, then sat back and jerked off to their struggling misery.
>>336245080
Is trick the canon ending or is it magic?
>>336245231
>tfw you feel personally cucked
>>336255181
Why destroy your own creation when you can just teach them a lesson? Did you father try to kill you everytime he saw your face?
>>336250183
that's pretty much darksiders too
>>336245080
>Magic is science
>Faith is magic
>>336250941
>hurr durr pay attention in Church
Christian churches and teachings are about as far from what mythological god are as you can get, especially when it comes to the god they're devoted to. Case-and-point the "God is all powerful" meme. The church will tell you God can't lose, the actually fucking Bible will tell you he lost twice; once to a pagan god named Chemosh, another to some guys in iron chariots. Church will also tell you their god is the true god while the Bible makes it clear as fuck that other god's exist (Exodus, read it) they are just weaker.
>>336252302
Oy vey, you tell him kike
>>336255570
Gee anon of course magic is
What kind of edgy psychopath would think that pic related is a mere trick instead of magic?
>>336255557
>For shits and giggles, m8. That's what you do when you're omnipotent.
>>336256036
>left hand empty
>opens her right hand
ryukishi you hack
>>336255181
he told Noah to go out and multiply and fill the earth, and they instead built a giant tower to survive a flood if God ever decided to fuck their shit up again.
God instead proceeded to blew up humanity's tower. Appreciating the irony, he decided not to murder them, and just confuse their languages so they were forced to split apart instead.
Do you think god lives in heaven because he's afraid of his own creations?
>>336254362
hey is that Iori's laugh?
>>336256326
You don't sleep in Legos do you?
>>336252025
holy shit, is starwars the space nerd bible?
>the EU is not canon. It's literally fanfiction
>>336255557
Except for the actual fucking passage where it's clear the angels are impressed by what humans will be able to do long term if they remain ubited politcally.
I believe exact words are "nothing will be inpossible for them". Both the King James and New imply in their phrasing that God was getting butthurt that humanity might show him up at some point in the future, hence the whole divide-and-conquer thing with the languages. Seriously, go back and read the Old Testament, it spits in the face of every religion built around it.
Reminder that Ezekiel 23:20 proves that Egyptians were black
Did Moses ever meet Jesus?
>>336256536
What are you talking about? It's more like if he was saying ONLY the EU was canon and the films were not.
>>336256836
not him but
wouldn't eden and all that shit still be canon, the rest isn't
>>336255030
I understand that, but I mean Zanza has the power to teleport Shulk and his friends, but just teleports them to him instead on into a place where they would die immediately. Also, he could have killed them right after killing Meyneth but is basically like "lol not right now"
It's like Saturday morning cartoon levels of villainy.
>>336256689
I dont even have to look this passage up to recognize it
Daily reminder that the Bible was guided by the hand of God, meaning that God found it vitally important that we read these words
>demons are always evil
>angels are mostly genocidal dicks
>only the gods of mortals can be trusted to protect mortals
>>336242741
>
>>336242741
>angel is really a demon
>>336256689
>donkey dicks and horse semen
What did God mean by this?
>>336257065
demons are brothers, they just chill and fuck most of the time, and maybe they are a little enthusiast with torture and punishment, stop buying angel's propaganda
>angels are actually the giant, alien, even grotesque monster-like beings they were originally described as instead of the winged supermodels artists changed them into
>>336242741
What if it's the Angel of Edge?
>>336257410
Nice try Satan
>>336257410
nice try Belial
>trusting external embodiments of light/dark law/chaos
>allowing mortals to be pawns in a cosmic game that spans eternity
>not freeing humanity from that eternal cycle of suffering
>god wants you to kill off his religion so that he doesnt have to deal with his followers bigotry.
>>336257410
t. lucifer
>>336254260
I bet you drink Pepsi you little shit
>>336257649
Why is Korra getting groped by her fellow cast members, a Metal Gear character, and a Klan member?
>>336242741
>Angles are the bad guys.
>It's a justice system is corrupt episode
>>336257772
Are you implying that's a bad thing cum nigger?
>>336255269
enjoy hell faglord
>>336256036
I'm still baffled that people don't get the point of umineko.
>It's a /v/ thinks that all Gods have to be omnipotent episode.
>>336258138
eternity = hell
No exceptions
Where do you plan to go that won't eventually be hell?
Only one third of the angels are bad.
>>336252025
>humans have the power of free will, which already puts us above angels and demons
If they don't have free will then how did god's favorite angel act on his jealousy of man and along with a fraction of the heavenly host go against him?
>>336247637
You realize this image got debunked ages ago right?
>>336256996
He didn't kill them during either time because they didn't have a Monado, no matter how much they struggled they would never have been able to do anything to him, he only saw the huge fuck up he made when he saw that Shulk still had a way to see the future and by that point it was already too late.
While Zanza is powerful as a god he still had a completely human mind with all the flaws that come with it, he didn't see how Alvis manipulated the whole thing to kill him, he didn't see that Dickson was already doubting the whole thing, Zanza just had a incredible amount of pwoer at his hands
>Kingdoms are good
>Empires are evil
>>336258397
Hey man, no one ever said this shit was written logically or consistently.
>>336258490
>Rebels and traitors are Good
>Soldiers and leaders are Evil
>you are the hero
>every path you take means jack shit in the end
>the pantsu are migratory birds
>Noblemen are good people
>>336258279
I understood the message but it still was poorly written
>>336258286
heaven
>>336258279
what was the message? I'm not quite sure I haven't read it in a long time
>>336258490
>Emperors are always corrupt
>Kings are always honorable and care about their subjects
>>336258909
Now extrapolate your experience there out to the scale of eternity
>>336258703
But that's the same for everyone, regardless of whether they're an insect, hero, or demon lord
>>336247038
>>336247647
Helck does itsomewhatright.
>>336259041
You're sent to hell to suffer for eternity, what the fuck do you think you are sent to heaven for? Are you retarded?
>>336258938
Some truths are not worth knowing
Some lies are harmless
That's about it really
>>336258452
This. Zanza is just a human given a huge amount of power. And he's a manchild.
>>336259041
Consistent pleasurable stimulation accompanied by memory loss at certain intervals
It's not realistic, but that'd probably be the closest one could get to a heaven
>>336247046
noble demon
but remember, angels are just demons that look good.
>>336258950
how is an emperor and a king different?
>>336248453
Lucifer was jealous that God's power levels were higher than his and tried to form a coup against him.
>>336259695
Demesne size :DDD
>>336259695
An empire can be composed of kingdoms
>>336247637
>Jmods come out and say the story Garlandia tells was innaccurate
>Guthix wasn't even in Naragun when it was attacked, bad witness
>Armadyl was literally his fuccboi for a while, also a naive idiot who can't understand having to do underhanded actions for the greater good.
>Bandos and Zarador are psychopaths to begin with, also fascists themselves. So it's pot callign the kettle black
>Zamorak is a loser butthurt cuck who can't win a single battle in the sixth age. Also ascended to power through an act of treachery himself, therefore making him a hypocrite.
>Sliske is Sliske
>Bilrach is insane and performed horrible experiments in Daemonheim
>Zaros can't be trusted after TLW
>Seren later came out after TLW and admit she liked Saradomin
>Sir Hugo at the time was serving a guy who wasn't even Saradominist. He was serving the dark elf clans.
>Sir Edward and General Hining were Saradominists that even fucking helped you in that same quest
>HAM has been disavowed by Saradomin and he destroyed their base.
>Saradominists such as Veliaf, Efaritay, and Akrisae have saved your life on multiple occasions.
So much misinformation packed into one image.
You also literally got this from reddit you faggot. Goes to show what kind of idiot made this image, I bet he's an r/atheism user who's mad at Saradomin only because he resembles the Christian god.
I literally made a reddit account to argue against this image and nobody replied to me, they only downvoted, I now see why you all have a problem with the site.
>Nobles are bad, selfish pricks
>Royalty is good people who only care about their people
>Presidents/Commoner elected officials are suspicious as hell but good at the end of the day
>enemy race that's been pillaging and killing MC's nation isn't bad
>game ends with MC's party having them living among humans
>>336259832
senpai, I didn't as what an empire is
>>336259940
An emperor rules over an empire, a king rules over a kingdom
I don't understand your question
>>336259868
>posting the old pic
>>336259752
>aware of God divinity and infinite power
>still betrays Him
Truly the ultimate fedora. He deserves all that's coming for him
>>336260057
so the same but different "conquered territory" size? ok
>>336255932
Moloch uprising fucking when?
>Machines are evil
>Flesh and blood creatures are good
>>336247921
>Straight Outta Deviantart
>>336253336
Disgaea, basically.
>>336260175
empires are generally (but not exclusively, fucking Napoleon) multi-ethnic
>Gods don't even exist, they were made up so that humans and other races would start wars against each other so that the big bad could slowly get stronger without worry and have the other races gradually weaken each other
>>336242741
Oh, buddy.
>Nazis are the bad guys
Where does this meme come from?
>aliens are peaceful
>evil guy is a "racist" human
fucking race traitors, ayy lmao fuckers
>>336260786
My feels, your tears.
>>336260871
poor guy
>>336261029
he fucked a subhuman instead of decapitating her, he deserves it
>>336258138
>calls someone faglord
Oh gee wiz Anon, better hope your omniscient god didn't see that one. You sure are a model Christian :^)
>God dies at the beginning of the game
>Once you go to heaven while traveling in the game, you discover that he basically had it coming the entire time, he was a huge dick and the final boss wasn't gonna take that shit from him anymore
>Once you finish the game and start going through post game dungeons you keep seeing this recurring bosses that have nonsensical dialogue
>You find out that God didn't actually die, rather he separated into multiple pieces being these bosses. They're basically pieces of his personality.
Guess the game, although I guess it should be obvious.
>>336261293
DQIX?
>>336261436
Yep that's the game. Was surprising to find out that Zenus didn't actually die.
>>336260884
>>336261293
>be a mercenary
>be hired and sent in a quest for the Holy Church of God to avoid the second coming of the Devil
>well into the game's plot find out God is dead
>the Church has been actually plotting the Devil's second coming all along
Which one is this?
>>336262049
I have seen this plot even on porn games
>>336262049
Kuroinu?
>>336262049
Devil May Cry 4?
>>336262330
>>336262298Grandia 2
Weird, thought /vee/ would know that one
>>336262049
Ar Tonelico?
>>336261179
homosexuality is a sin
>>336250817
>angels are just as fappable as demons
>>336262476
Like >>336262146 said, it shows up ALOT.
>>336262049
I am only 20 hours in but this could easily be Grandia 2
>>336255851
Sounds cool, what game?
>>336259502
Why not just binge drink?
>Game is actually unbeatable for the first play through, the antagonist succeeds in the end regardless of what you do
>to beat him you have to make a NG+ and go back with your endgame status to fight him in the beginning of the game
>>336257536
This. Benevolent eldritch beings are under used as fuck.
>>336257649
>Demons being Chaos.
Angels not being bastions of chaos pushing free will. Fucking Buddhists
>>336257536
Robot angels are pretty high tier though
>>336262530
>le purge the gaybois meme
Christ, Freddy, glad you could take a break from sucking Satans schlong to talk with us degenerates
>>336263016
What games have them?
>>336262857
Breakdown? Is not NG+ though
>Angels tell you demons are evil
>Demons convince you it's actually the angels that are evil and make you slaughter them
>Turns out the angels were actually good
>>336259203
How can time exist in a place where existence isn't measured by time?Let alone not exist?
>>336263298
DIO?!
>>336242741
>christian God and the creator of the universe are 2 different entities
>the Creator tasks you with kicking God's shit in for being a dick
>>336247046
Aren't all, or at least most, of the abrahamic beings angels, or a derivative of?
>>336242741
Is Sora no otoshimono even good?convince me with lewds
>>336262530
fags can be bros once you made pretty clear that you have no interest in fucking them, but I guess even fags in my country are more mainly that "mens" on other countries, specially when most things here are resolved on fist fights
>>336263807
it's fucking shit
>>336251356
>omnipotent
>rendered completely helpless by iron chariots
According to OT, average car >>>>> God.
>>336263749
Not really.
But many powerful ones, like Lucifer and the Goetian demons (even if it's fanfiction), are fallen angels.
>>336260092
Only if your Christian. Jews have him as God's cosmic chess pal. Judaism as has an angel older then God who handles death.
>>336242741
>the asshole that murderfucked your waifu becomes god
>>336263807
It's just awful
>>336263382
WellBravely Seconddoes it.
>>336263298
>>336264080
What game?Castlevania: Lament of Innocence?
>>336242741
You have a problem with that, asshole?
>>336264080
https://youtu.be/HNJRRR3jKcY
>>336251356
We're almost there if he wouldn't stop fucking with us.
>Humans create giant ring to smash particles into bits
>Almost find a way to manipulate the existence of mass and matter in the universe
>Tells a fucking rat to eat through a wire in this magnificent collective modern wonder of humanity.
>the church is secretly the villain
>every priest in the game was in on it and secretly evil
I'm about 80% sure that's not how conspiracies work. If everybody in the organization knew it was secretly evil, it wouldn't be a secret very long.
>female demons are bald
>>336264368
Xenoblade
>>336257536
>>336263016
The Bible explicitly mentions that the Cherubim guarding the garden of Eden has a flaming sword, so he has to be at least somewhat humanoid looking.
>>336259132
Just because those aren't angels,they are humans
>>336264674
Mumkhar isn't a god. He doesn't even have any impressive power.
>>336261620
>>336264648
>>336264806
Also demons aren't demons. The "demon world" is just an empire in the same physical world that encompases several non-human races. Hell, every other nation in the Helck world is made of non-humans and the human kingdom is so fucking tiny.
>>336251356
>not having a will bigger than god
>>336262569
Well God is the ultimate villain.
>Dark Souls 3
>Pretend that in life, my Unkindled One was a Way of the White paladin before he got cremated, possibly some time after the events of DS1.
>Wake up to find that your gods and church were overtaken by an Emperor Palpatine fanclub and some kind of lovecraftian abomination devoured the gods you swore your life to.
>The entire section between Cathedral of the Deep and Anor Londo becomes a vengeance driven murderquest against Aldrich and his minions.
Did anyone else do something similar?
>>336256036
>trick or magic
not
>trick or treat
>>336256036
Trick. Her left hand was empty, but nothing implied that her right hand was also empty.
>>336266121
Enjoy your bad end
>angels have a gender
>game lets you play as a regular warrior
>you can go up against elder gods, demons, and all sorts of fucked-up monsters as a guy armed with nothing but a sword and a headful of mad
>>336260546
desu there's no good definition of what an empire actually is.
