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>>336232159
300 CONFIRMED SILVER KNIGHT KILLS AND 3 CONCORDS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
so glad they kept these, Dark Souls 2 did have some really fun shit
>>336232159
How's it going ?
You don't wanna wait uh ? Come on, just try me, farming is so boring, you could have everything you want in just a few seconds.
Try meeeeeeeeee
x2
>>336232481
Yeah, that shit is weird.
Changing the amount of souls you got gets the Invalid Data warning, but changing the number of items, like firebombs and what nots, doesn't get detected.
How did they fuck up so badly?
>>336232159
Hoy
>>336232656
They didn't.
It's perfect that way, fuck covenants.
>>336232765
Yeah, but that way you can also edit upgrade items and the number you got of them. That's just stupid.
>>336232159
Literal fucking garbage that has no place being in the game.
I really didn't miss this farming garbage with BB
>>336232994
BB was a bitch to farm upgrade materials though.
And having to deal with the chalice dungeon bullshit for gems.
>>336233157
>upgrade materials
You mean the items you find lying around and can buy a fuckton with insight, something that is not even used for levelling unlike souls?
>having to deal with chalices
base game gems are perfectly fine, the difference isnt even that big
>>336233376
>can buy a fuckton with insight
>20 insight for one chunk
>takes 16 of them to go from +6 to +9
You can find enough materials to fully upgrade 2, maybe 3 weapons. After that you've got no choice but to farm for them.
DaS2/3 had the best system for upgrade materials where everything could be bought with souls aside from slabs once you beat the game.
![vertebra-shackle[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UhYXgdk.jpg "vertebra-shackle[1].jpg")
![wolfs_blood_swordgrass[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Hay4EWG.jpg "wolfs_blood_swordgrass[1].jpg")
Why do people farm it?
I hope it's not for achievements.
>>336233669
I have a good 100 of these lying around. Just invade a gank squad with Obscuring Ring and wait for them to kill some invaders.
>>336232159
I got summoned for my first time yesterday. FeelsGoodMan
>>336233748
The ring is the only 2 slot ring ingame. The miracle gives faith users a magic weapon doing magic damage
Darkmoon Blade.Which you need for the all miracles achievement
>>336233738
Only took me an hour or two farming just outside the Abyss Watchers bonfire. Also got the required Pale Tongues from the dickwraiths at the same time. Man-grub staff is somewhat okay, considering I rerolled 99 luck to farm these covenant items. Great Chaos Fire Orb +both pyro rings is just great, but does jack to the silver knights, so I've been using Great Heavy Soul Arrow +Bellowing. At 99 luck, it does just enough damage to two shot them, and if I use Hidden Body, I can get 4 kills with per Rusted Coin. Still have only found 14 in about 6 hours total farming. Fuck these ears.
>its an ear
>d2 reference
>>336235096
I should add that the reason for grinding is I've been keeping my upgrades at +4 (+2 scale/twinkling) so I don't get ganked by tryhards on my first playthrough.
>>336232159
u jelly amerilards?
>>336235280
lol your ps4 is glitching out, dat text
I get summoned loads in Archdragon Peak and Upper Lothric Castle.
I only need 20 more to get the Darkmoon Blade.
>>336233657
BB deals with that by having a much smaller number of weapons. While it would be nicer to max 3-4 weapons per cycle, the 2 (including DLC) aren't that bad.
>>336233669
these are easy toget
>>336232481
Nah, i'm not a scrub that uses cheats.
>>336232481
>tfw softbanned
>>336235280
>bragging about hours of grinding
>>336233738
>can invade the swamp like it's nobody's business
>equip wolf covenant
>absolutely nothing
I simply do not understand how they can manage to make half the covenants absolutely useless in this game.
>>336235759
At least he isn't a scrub that brags about cheating.
I don't get why people try to farm items with an abysimal droprate when there's a covenant mechanic in the game that makes getting them extremely easy. I'm not even level 60 yet but have finished Darkmoon Blade and Mound-Makers. Aldrich Faithful seems to be entirely doable with its frequent invites and Rosaria's Fingers is probably the easiest after Sunlight-guys.
Do so many people play the game offline that farming those items from NPCs comes up all the time? Are you all online-banned?
>>336235618
Enjoy 20 hours of grinding for 4 ears
Why did they make Darkmoons a Blue Sentinels clone?
Why are Blue Sentinels not just always active instead of only coming for the Way of the Blue?
Why did they fuck with the covenants so much?
>>336235982
>I'm not even level 60 yet but have finished Darkmoon Blade
You're lucky as fuck being thrown into the tiny pool of people who actually gets Darkmoon summons
The reason people farm it is because for a lot of people, these summons NEVER happen
>>336235994
took me "only" 4 hours with the crystal rapier, 99 luck and coins (that patches sells for 200 souls each) to get 30 concords
>>336235830
sl20-30 works fine with farron. i have a waiting time for about 1-3 minutes. i just need 10 more tokens and i can move on.
>>336235982
I had darkmoon on for the last 30 hours of my first playthrough and didn't get summoned once
>tfw no item that lets you record a voice message into then throw it
>>336236239
>wanting to be bombarded with epic memes everytime you co-op/invade
>>336232646
you forgot the shield / helm / legs / chest that you would also get with it to clutter your shit.
>>336236239
>tfw turning on voicechat in-game and they're talking with their buttbuddy phantom over skype and then yell when they get killed
>>336236148
I should've mentioned that I was NG+. I doubt I'll encounter the same issues at Aldritch Home Zone though.
>>336236395
Aldrich was the only auto-summon covenant that worked for me because that place is full of retarded fight clubbers. It's easy - I once left Dark Souls 3 running while going for dinner and the covenant item on and when I came back I had gained 5 dregs.
>>336236239
>invade ganksquad
>can't hear shit over memers using recordings of loud nigra
>>336236395
and i should have mentioned that i made a new char just for that. can be fun if you grab some early equip
>>336236025
They should've brought back indicting players so that Darkmoons could function how they originally did. That way Blue Sentinels could come to the rescue and Darkmoons can hunt down invaders. As it stands there is absolutely no drawback to just invading and it's such a shame.
>>336235280
i didn't know BR could afford ps4
>>336236592
>As it stands there is absolutely no drawback to just invading
There's way more drawbacks in this game to invading than ever
I'd love to actually GET invaded, though - and Blue Eye Orb helped with that, because it was based on sin.
>>336236589
Yeah, I figured it wouldn't be that bad to do it on a new character but I don't want to stop on my current one yet so it's a bummer knowing I'm essentially locked out of a covenant because From are retards.
>>336236634
now you know not only that, but also that a BR is better than you
B^)
>>336236698
I didn't mean while invading, but as for the consequences of invading. Sin was a mechanic that essentially punished invaders for the act of invading itself.
>tfw you get summoned into someone drawing aldritch faithful in and time it so that another invader comes in before the first one is killed
Concords fo days
>>336233738
I get these without trying. Now the proof? That's another story.
>>336232994
The game is so short I imagine they felt like they had to put in farming shit. That combined with Miyazaki not comprehending how badly blue covenants work in their games = horrifying farming.
Honestly, easiest thing to do on PC is just cheat shit in on a family share and then port it back to your account. Especially if you use multiple characters.
I fucking love the idea of a blue sentinel that rescues players, but holy shit do they not understand how to implement multiplayer in Japan. If a western company made a Souls game it would be terrible and rife with angry bald men, hollywood cinematics and warhammer armor, but shit like multiplayer and balance would be a high priority.
>>336236893
Oh yeah, absolutely. It worked well because those invading are generally interested in PvP anyway, so giving them a higher chance to get invaded was good.
>>336237103
>Honestly, easiest thing to do on PC is just cheat shit in on a family share and then port it back to your account.
Wait, how would this even work?
>>336235280
>>336235618
>game's online is fundamentally broken for a lot of people
>unless you want to grind for dozens of hours with in-game mobs
>>336237215
You don't even have to do that.
I literally got done testing, with a back-up save just in case I got a warning, if editing the value of how many Bloodgrass I have in my inventory would do anything, but it didn't.
So yeah. Instead of waiting over 2 hours and getting only 1 invasion as a Watchdog, I'm done with this shit right away.
>>336232159
Can someone explain the context of this post?
>Trying to get fap ring
>TWO fucking crocodiles let alone one
>They have attacks with fucky hitboxes and you can't get out of its grab
Fuck this shitty mob design. Le OHKO attacks seem like the staple of this game, which is lame.
>>336239515
Item that only drops in two ways in Dark Souls 3.
You can, theoretically, get summoned as a Blue Sentinel or Darkmoon to fight a Rosaria's Finger or Watchdog or Mound Maker, kill them and get that as a reward.
If the covenants are broken, however, like they are for so many people, then you have to farm Silver Knights in Anor Londo/Irythill, and even with maximum in-game Item Discovery numbers it's not a guaranteed drop, and the only thing guaranteed is that you're going to spend hours upon hours of farming enemies in the game for the slight chance of getting the item.
The item is needed to advance in the Darkmoon covenant, which offers you two rewards, one at 15 ears and the other at 30, without which you can't get two different achievements.
>>336239613
That's only an issue if you roll too early.
>>336239613
Stop rolling early you fucking scrub. You also dont have to fight both at the same tie.
>>336239613
You can fight them 1v1 if you aren't "Adventurer B"
>>336239773
so people are cheating, breaking the game and risking getting banned because they cant wait for a patch since they "need" to get these 2 rewards now? damn people here are retarded
>>336239613
Just pull out a bow, shoot an arrow at one of them and that's it.
There is literally no reason to fight both at the same time.
>>336232159
Hey.
>>336240471
>now
The covenants have been broken from the start.
I highly doubt From Software will correct the issue at all. They sure as fuck didn't for the first Dark Souls which also had a lot of issues with Darkmoon.
I bet it's a second-world issue and matchmaking servers realize someone lives in a country that has basically no viable infrastructure or playerbase and they therefore never get invites because they'd lag everyone to death.
>>336240571
has a patch been released yet? maybe they're working on it, due to the success of the game
>>336240750
Western Europe isn't second-world, and some people living close by are getting summoned perfectly fine
it seems to be completely random
>>336240750
Nah.
Four friends of mine have the same issue as well. One's from Texas, another is from Norway, third and fourth are from the UK, and I myself am from the Balkans. None of us have ever gotten a summoning as a Blue Sentinel or Darkmoon while playing the game, while invasions as a Watchdog have been extremely rare.
It's random as shit.
>>336240889
A patch was supposed to be released on the 28th.
No such thing happened.
Also, there is literally no guarantee that will help either.
>>336240889
>maybe they're working on it
Don't be stupid. They're not going to fix covenants, they're not going to fix their broken cheat detection, they're never going to fix magic sucking horse cocks (moonlight greatsword is shitty split damage now, REALLY?), and they sure as fuck aren't going to ever give us patch notes that actually mean anything. I'm STILL not sure what the fuck the patch on the 28th is supposed to do.
>>336240990
>>336241109
I guess you can think about it that way.
still, I dont get the point of an achievement that you get by cheating
>>336232285
How much luck?
>>336241126
>inbred alien
>qt
just
>>336241221
If somebody honestly used cheat engine to get 30 concords and didn't use it for anything else, I won't ever give a FUCK. There's no reason anyone should want to subject themselves to 6+ hours of covenant item grinding because Fromsoft refuses to just FIX THEIR SHIT.
>>336235096
Why would your farm in the Abyss Watcher bonfire instead of the Perimeter? Do you enjoy running?
>>336241221
>I guess you can think about it that way.
Think about it? Look, man, I'm just looking at From Software's past behavior to determine how they're going to act in the future.
They didn't fix shit in Dark Souls 1's Darkmoon covenant.
They sure as fuck won't fix this either.
I would LOVE to be proven wrong. Absolutely nothing better. I want the covenants to work. I want invasions and summonings to function as originally intended.
Instead, I sat for over 2h in Farron Keep and got 1 Watchdog invasion.
Meanwhile, Red Eye Orb invasion lets me invade every 30 seconds after each invasion is done.
>still, I dont get the point of an achievement that you get by cheating
I have no patience to farm enemy mobs for hours upon hours upon hours so that I could get an item which I would have gotten by that point if the online worked properly.
That's about it.
I used a trainer to get them
Not proud of that but neither I feel guilty
>>336233738
I'm thankful this covenant actually worked for me.
>>336241415
hey man, it's ok. go ahead and do it.
I really have no stake in the matter, I just wouldnt bother myself.
is that item so pivotal to the game? I havent playerd that game, tahts why im asking
>>336232285
>tfw 410 billion dead silver knights
>killed em all 1989
>5 concords
How the fuck do you deal with Aldrich and his gay tracking arrow rain bullshit
I dont know what you're talking about dude. I got 45 of those from doing sentinel work. It only seems to work for low levels though. While Darkmoons only work in lvl's 90+
>>336241646
Did you maxed out luck?
>>336241619
>is that item so pivotal to the game?
The ears and the bloodgrass? The thing is they net you Covenant-related rewards, some of which you either want for an achievement, or you just plain want them as an item.
I sure as fuck don't want to end up like pic related.
He got all that while farming for just 30 ears.
>>336241709
Wanna know how? Oh I tell you how.
Summon. Fuck the try hard and fuck you for not doing it.
>>336241751
Nah, but I'm out of coins now. I guess I am trash man.
>>336235280
>BR
>PS4
Negro are you retarded?
>>336241720
Nah, anon. It's just straight out broken for some people. It plain doesn't work.
I'm SL 30 with +2 weapons as Blue Sentinel/Watchdog and I got no summoning as BS and only a few invasions as Watchdog in 20h of game with this particular character.
>>336241709
You fucking haul ass
>>336241846
Buy more from Patches with all the souls you got killing knights. Wear the Symbol of Avarice.
>>336241709
Step 1: If you're already swinging a heavy weapon as he readies his bow, you're dead
Step 2: Sprint around a pillar
Step 3: The soul spears will probably miss
Step 4: Hit him once before he does it again.
>>336241786
Lol I still remember the first fashion souls threads with all those special snowflakes wearing silver knight sets.
>>336241887
you could build your own silver knight army.
>>336241709
first stage roll behind the arrows, second stage roll in a triange
>>336241984
>>336241992
You know what's infuriating as fuck?
The SK weapons aren't droppable in the game. They exist in the game's data, they're there in the game's files, but they simply don't drop as weapons for the players.
Is From jewing us for future DLC?
>farm those shackles and max out MM
>now have to do the passive-summon covenants
>fun is officially over
>>336241887
On the plus side, they sell for a decent amount.
>>336235280
The game has Portuguese on the PS4?
>>336232159
>>336235280
hi
>>336241709
>just spam roll
>you cant get hit even if you roll while your under the arrows
>>336241887
The peak of sentinel summons in my character was SL40 +3/4 Glaive at the Cathedral of the Deep and Catacombs of Cathus.
Drop rate wise, vertebra shackles seem to be just as rare as the concords, maybe slightly more common. Dregs, sword grass, pale tongues, and sunlight medals are all considerably more common.
The problem is you can get shekels pretty easily with red soapstone or invasions. Hell, you don't even need to kill the host. The issue with the concords is that you can't get summoned as a darkmoon fucking ever. Basically if you pass level 40 no one ever has way of blue on so you're hosed forever. Even when I wear it, I get invaded almost instantly when I'm embered in many places and I never get darkmoon/sentinel backup. I'm sure there are tons of people like me out there that have been blue sentinel/darkmoon for 40+ hours and never gotten summoned.
This is why concords are bullshit, because you basically have to farm them if you want any darkmoon rewards.
>Waiting all day to get summoned
>Finally get summoned
>Host with a White Phantom and me in the area after Pontiff
>We walk to the courtyard area where the dead giants are
>No enemies around, they're all dead, even the giants that are just pretending to be dead
>See 1 Red Phantom, 1 Sunbro Red Phantom, 1 Adlrich Faithful at the other end of the courtyard
>Everyone walks near the middle and we all fight 3v3
>Leave with 2 Proofs and 1 Well Proof
Easily worth the wait, that was a great fight. And even though I didn't land any killing blows, me and my Gundy's Halbard caused enough damage and panic that the invader phantoms got separated from each other.
>>336242171
He cant dodge the purple rain, so no, you can't expect him to pull that off.
>forward ports
>suddenly get summoned
Thanks for the shitty networking implementaiton, From.
>>336241786
I got 85 carthus swords and 84 shields farming for shackles.
I'll be SL500 by the time I'm done with these ears on NG. At least it'll make my next playthroughs easier I guess.
>>336241884
don't be jelly
>>336242123
>fun is officially over
You have no idea. I hope you enjoy waiting for long periods of time only to be summoned by a dumbass host that gets themselves killed. Its going to happen quite often.
>>336241950
Good thing I am born to die. I will buy lots
>>336232159
Reminder that you can find 2 proof of a concord kept every ng cycle so if you're an achievement faggot that's going to go through ng+2 to get all the rings you should only farm 24 not 30 proofs.
>>336235740
You don't know about the fix or loop-hole?
>>336235740
>Used it
>not softbanned
>>336243125
tell me
How the fuck do I make Patches appear? he wasn't at the Cathedral, he didn't appear at Firelink after I bought the tower key. Now I killed the Artorias cosplay legion and that faggot still hasn't shown up anywhere.
>Most Blue Sentinels and Blades of the Darkmoon are forced to farm Silvery Knights for days to get 30 Concords
>For a Miracle that is hardly better than a resin
How did From fuck up balance in literally every way with this game outside of Quality Build
>>336243514
>Artorias cosplay legion
>>336243243
Not him, but I think he's talking about creating another account and then family-sharing the game.
I get blue sentinel summons on a near constant basis even high level. I get it so much that it gets fucking annoying and I have to turn it off.
>>336243773
Pretty simple fix. Already had one account soft-banned, using another one. Using cheat engine is pretty fun, especially at Lothric. Pretty popular spot to find other people at low-level cosplaying as bosses from DS1 or from DS3, forming up ganksquads, and then waiting for invaders.
>>336243896
Is it based on what area you're in?
On a side note I dislike how your weapon level also factors into who you can invade.
>mfw i kill Dorkmoon faggots
>mfw i crystal out if i'm losing to a blue faggot
EARS
NEVER
EVER
>Be in Darkmoon covenant
>a summon happens after a bazillion hours of game
>OH BOY HERE WE GO
>3 seconds in, the phantom appears from one side and destroys me with the rapier R1 spam
>>336244554
>Finally get summoned after 3 hours of waiting
>Load in
>DUTY FULFILLED
>RETURNING TO YOUR WORLD
>No Proof
>Darkmoon
>SL20, +2 weapon
>Stand around at Undead Settlement bonfire
>No summons at all
Fuck this.
>>336243540
>How did From fuck up balance in literally every way with this game outside of Quality Build
>have 40/40
>swing my dark sword twice
>1/2 enemy health gone
>have 60 int and fully upgraded court sorcerer staff, with 4 ring slots dedicated to damage and dusk crown
>crystal soul spear motherfucker
>enemy just walks to the left and dodges it
>finally connect one
>1/3 of their health
>consumes all of my stamina and most of my pathetic FP because I had to invest everything into INT
>get R1'd to death
Thanks From!
>>336241389
It's even faster to farm at the Keep Ruins bonfire. There's three guys immediately after the bonfire. It's faster to just run back to the bonfire when you're done than to Homeward Bone/Coiled Sword Fragment back.
>>336244137
>invade a guy with a phantom
>walk up to host, wave
>blade of the darkmoon summoned
>don't even care, activate weapon art on BKGA
>the stomp stuns the darkmoon about to backstab me, immediately flow into an R2 and smash the host into the stone
I can't even imagine the tears.
>>336244660
I was lucky to get a pale tongue when the same thing happened to me once.
>>336244875
>N-NOOOOOOOOO MY EARS
>>336241887
>>336241786
Shit like this makes me wish armor drops were rare but one time ONLY. So you get a helm, but then later if you get something else, it 100% will never be another helm. It's not like you need two of the fucking things, and they just clutter up your inventory.
Plus if you're looking to get the whole set, you can end up with 10 gauntlets, 5 helms and 6 leggings but no chest piece. And not even realize it since only 1 listed all of a set together.
>>336244660
That has happened to me three times now.
>>336242474
which ones?
>want to do an Artorias cosplay
>his shield is locked behind 30 grass blades for the broken watchdog covenant
>Invade as a mad spirit near anor londo
>looking about for the guy, see he's got a phantom with him
>waiting for a chance to strike
>aldrich faithful invades
>second dark spirit invades
>alright boys we might be able to do something here
>I beckon the aldrich faithful over so we can go in together
>he immediately attacks me
Fucking why. You don't get anything out of doing it and now your job is even harder, you complete idiot.
>>336243514
I think you need to open up Rosaria's door for him to show up at the shrine.
NPC questlines are so fucked in this.
>>336246865
Oh come on
It's just around 2 hours of farm with just ring
Can't even compare it with ears
>>336244667
>Way of Blue
>SL 21, +0 weapon
>Red phantom appears
>bluefriend appears
>Red faggot eats grass, uses lightning resin
>Does half hp bar and 90% stamina bar in one swing of executioners greatsword
>Both of us only do chips off his bar
>When ever he gets low, chugs estus
>After 6 chugs he's still not out of estus
>Bluefriend falls off ledge
>One shotted crit by red thanks to sword dealing tons of stamina damage
Great balance, From.
>>336244660
Here if you need proof
>>336236749
>he thinks br isn't a third world shithole that nobody wants to touch
>>336247080
>trusting a grape
There is literally no reason not to gank up on other invaders with the host if your kill quota is just 1 phantom.
>>336247080
I've noticed, as an aldrich faithful that other phantoms will always attack you over the host. I've had multiple matches where the host and another invader worked together, ignoring each other in order to gank me. When I die, they bow and continue fighting. This isn't a fightclub, you cunts. Killing the host is the objective for all of us, why not focus on that?
WHY DID FROM TURN OFF POISE REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>336232315
Shame they removed fucking arenas and sin. Dark moons have shit to do but overall right now. They could have at least let them use RSS to get concorde like Purple or roses.
Honestly, have any of you ever been intentionally summoned as a purple?
>>336247690
Every weapon that needs poise has hyperarmour frames instead.
Yes, they don't activate during the first 1/3rd of the animation, but that's meaningful enough and ecourages you to time your attacks better instead of stacking up the meme stat and mindlessly mashing r1/poisestabbing everything into oblivion.
I'd rather have them slightly buff heavy armour to make it reduce more damage instead.
>>336232481
> playing shit PC full of hackers
>I play PS4 where I.have yet to meet a single cheater
>Make a magic build
>have to shit my pants and run every time someone invades because magic is fucking terrible in PVP
Why does FROM hate magic, miracles and pyromancy so much
>Magic is shit
>Covenants are shit
>NPC questlines are shit
Can we all agree that DS1 is still the best Souls game already? Even DS2 did balancing better than 3.
How did the last game in the series have by far the worst covenant system. I'm actually amazed at how badly From fucked up the covenants in this game.
Rosaria's Fingers
Mound Makers
Warriors of Sunlight
Those are your only options, everything else is busted.
>>336241887
BecAuse you're too low level you fucking tryhard clown. SL130-150+ gets most action
>>336248581
This
DaS3 has better areas and bosses but literally everything else is factually inferior to DaS2's version. Even DaS1 had better covenants and some of them were useless.
>>336248512
Miracles are STILL paying for second chance. Magic is just beyond me, they fucked everything to do with magic.
>need 60 int/fai and 4 ring slots to do as much damage as a quality weapon, while chewing up all of your no stamina because lol 60 int/fai and giving the enemy a year to interrupt it
>attunement gives slots at a snails pace, forcing you to invest a fuckton into it, also doesn't give as much FP as it should
>all of the good spells take up two slots
>moonlight greatsword has garbage-tier split damage
>faith has no good scaling weapons whatsoever, not that it actually matters because Str+Fai is borderline impossible this time around anyway
Only pyromancy is worth a damn, and even then it's not terribly impressive. Rapport is some funny shit though.
>Fighting the tough doggies down where you join Aldrich's cult
>Almost have the first one dead
>YOU ARE BEING SUMMONED
NO NO
>Hurry up and try to kill it
>Get teleported away rights as I wind up for the final swing
>You have been summoned to K***htNIGGERS world!
>Host of Embers has been defeated
>Respawn right in the aggro range of the two doggies
>Ded
THANKS BLUE SENTINELS
>>336242998
Only 10 per time.
>>336249013
A few weapons get S scaling in Faith when Lightning Infused, but literally no weapon has good innate Faith scaling.
>>336248813
>Mound Memers
Meme tier covenant. Would be actual wild card summons if they could kill bosses.
>Sunbros can invade with Red Eye Orb and get Sunlight Medals
>Somehow Dorkmoons can't
Why, From? Why?
>>336249119
Ahh, the world is a fuck.Come on man
>>336249140
The problem is the split damage. Dark Souls 2 had the defender greatsword, which is about as close as we'll ever get to a lightning version of the MLGS, but then it got nerfed along with every form of lightning spear because somebody at From realized they gave a nice thing to Faith and they freaked the fuck out.
>>336236634
What if he's from Portugal?
>>336248915
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
meta is 100-120
>>336248512
Well at least the great chaos ball is fun in PvP.
>>336249395
Which makes zero fucking sense. Who decided the meta, Dark Sword faggots? Because 120 isn't even feasible for casters.
>bluefag tears
>>336249325
With 45 Faith I get better results with my Lightning Infused Lothric Straight Sword +8 than any straight sword + Lightning Blade spell with a +8 talisman. In my build I can't really invest into Str or Dex passed 20 on each.
>>336232159
Hi
>>336248581
>>336248990
>covenants are shit
>implications
Lets have a rundown of DaS1 coveants shall we?
>non-functional piece of shit: black edition
>non-functional piece of shit: blue edition
>glorified shortcut
>obsolete dueling covenant which whole point is practically invalidated by the presence of red soapstone signs in the game
>not one
>not two
>but THREE co-op covenants with only difference being the rewards, and one of them being completely and utterly useless
And Dickwraiths with Forestfags, which were okay.
Even DaS3 covenants, as lackluster as they are, are better.
>magic is shit balance suxx muh straightswords!
You people seem to have forgotten how fucking abysmal the balance was during the early days of DaS1 and DaS2, and now are comparing the final builds of DaS1/2 and practically unpatched DaS3, which I dare say is not entirely fair.
Never forget body SMS or Quadrobuff Helixodons.
>>336249395
Meta is 130-170. Likely settle around 145 or 150.
SL120 is dark sword scrubs and estoc spammers.
>>336232159
It took me about 4 hours to get 30 of them, wanna know my secret?
>>336249601
I laugh when someone says the meta is anything below 100. Literally the only viable builds at Lvl 80 are Quality ones. Faith / Intelligence builds need to invest so much into stats just to keep up with Quality, it's not even funny how bad they are.
I'll never understand how DaS1 meta was always 120 when that game had less stats to manage, DaS3 has more stats to manage and suddenly the meta is lower?
>>336249140
What?
They got only A
>mfw I've been calling him Ludex Gundyr all this time
>>336250197
Because you are retarded?
>>336250089
120 for Dark Souls meant you could go 40 Vit, 40 End, 40/40 STR/DEX, and still have points leftover to put into attunement so you have two slots for pyromancy.
120 for Dark Souls 3 is fucking absurd. 150 is a much more reasonable meta level.
>>336250089
You don't need 40 stamina in DaS3.
Yoy HARDLY need 40 vigor in DaS3.
>>336235280
AHAHAHHAHA
>BR subhuman trash
>PS4
>Bragging about having spent HOURS grinding for ACHIEVEMENTS on a singleplayer game
HAHAHAHHA Holy shit you monkeys always make my day
>>336250139
Upgrade your weapon more family. Around +7 LKS and Astora Greatsword get S Faith scaling with Lightning
>>336250089
The fuck are quality builds?
>>336235280
Why is your PS4 in chinese?
>>336250467
Cool, didn't knew
I had faith spear that even with lighting had only B scaling
And all normal 2h swords got only A on +10
Will move on it
>>336250672
Canada is in North America iirc
>>336241646
>ground them all out in like 5 hours
World is a Fuck
>>336249985
yes
>>336250384
No, but you DO need 27 vigor, and at least 20 endurance.
A spellcaster needs to invest 50 points in their casting stat alone if they're a miracle or sorceryfag, and they need another 20 points in attunement so they can actually equip more than two spells. If you're a pyrofag, you need to invest a whopping 40/40 in your magic stats and 30 attunement. When you combine this with the mandatory 27 vigor, SOMETHING has to give.
Quality builds have to make no such sacrifices, and it's fucking stupid to have the meta at 120 when it clearly only benefits qualityfags.
>>336250662
In Demons Souls there was an upgrade path called "quality" that evened out strength and dexterity scaling on weapons. It was shit if you were only focusing on one stat or the other, but much more powerful if you had both. People just call 40/40 str/dex quality builds because of that.
>>336232481
Adding items gets bans. Only cheats that don't are infinite health/stam/mag or iframes.
>>336250384
Faith / Int builds need all they can get because the fucking RIDICULOUS stat investments they need to make into their respective stats to even get somewhat the same damage of a 40/40 Quality. How hard is this to understand.
The sub 100 meta is impossible if you want build variation in PVP, this is not up for debate.
>He didn't get the dark soul in 2nd week of release
lmao
I tried making it more fun by doing other strategies but then I just started parrying them and dying inside when I went back to the bonfire.
>>336242938
>summoned by Darkmoon covenant
>fucking_finally.jpg
>The guy enter the boss area
>Get summoned again
>Message pop saying "Duty fulfilled" but don't get any reward
Loading just finished and I'm back to another loading
Seriously, fuck off
>>336251078
You've got to be shitting me. There's no way that's the case considering Dark Souls 2 SoTFS would freak the fuck out and get you banned for SweetFX
>>336232481
I would literally rather castrate myself than cheat in dark souls.
not even slightly tempted.
>>336232159
I don't play Dark souls, what is this supposed to be and why is everyone pissed off at it? What does it do? It looks like a rare mushroom
>>336251607
It's a covenant item that you get for being in the Blue Sentinels and Blades of the Darkmoon. These covenants require someone to be in the Way of Blue covenant to get invaded by another player so you're automatically summoned. So the system is completely broken right now because hardly anyone at high level is in Way of Blue, meaning these two covenants hardly get summoned.
The only viable way for most people is to grind enemies for hours to get the item.
>>336250751I know, I live there ;_;
>>336251409
>Message pop saying "Duty fulfilled" but don't get any reward
Its weird how this is the only covenant that does this shit. Every time this happened in the Wolf's covenant, I got the reward just for showing up at the end.
>>336251607
idiots are too shit to play the game properly so they decide to farm a lot instead
>>336250662
Quality builds refers to having 40 Strength and 40 Dexterity to take advantage of weapon scaling, this build is even stronger now that Refined infusion is a thing. Where as someone who wants to use Sorceries / Miracles / Pyromancies need to invest at least 50 or 60 into their respective stat (perhaps even more) to even try and match the damage, then they need to level Attunement to get more spell slots and FP, all while also having to pump VIG / END (and also VIT if they want a hybrid build).
This meta needs to be 120 fucking minimum.
>>336232159
just got my 30th ear. No farming. only ear i got of an NPC i got just passing through on the way to Alb.
Thinking about shuffling my stats a little. little less hp, little more stam.
Also, i may start being a plumbro for shits and giggles.
>>336235280
>alma negra
DRAGON FLYZ
>>336252041
>idiots are too shit to play the game properly
You mean From is a shit developer and thought two covenants that completely rely on someone being in a single covenant was a good idea.
>>336251784
So you have to be a high level group or class or such and get summoned to help someone of a different class or group being attacked, but no one uses the needed summoner? I am assuming it's a rare RNG drop from enemies. Still can't figure out what it's supposed to be though.
>>336252041
And it's not working out so well?
>>336236584
>having mircophone active
>>336252041
Or there are a lot of player who instead of wearing the Way of Blue Covenant while going through a level put useless shit like Warriors of the sun because "XD Praise the sun!", while it doesn't even do anything for them
>>336252148
oops, forgot to include my stats
>>336251078
Stop spreading misinformation.
>>336252195
No, in fact the higher level you are the harder it is because only relatively low level players use the covenant needed to summon you. Also it's an ear.
Someone needs to be in the Way of Blue covenant and be invaded for a chance of the other two covenants to get summoned to help. High level players are rarely ever in this covenant. Even when you're lower level it's hard to get in, I made a new low level character with a +2 weapon and STILL couldn't get summoned.
>>336232159
Playing on PC. Got my concords relatively easily, You get alot of blue sentinel summons early game because lots of people are using the way of the blue covenant. By the time I was at anor londo I already had 28 or so concords. Man the darkmoon blade effect looks so gorgeous.
>>336236634
must be the richest person in the amazon
>>336251014
18 att for 3 slots.
24 for 4.
You don't really need more than that.
>50 + 18/24 is more than 40+40
Eh?
>>336251184
>implying low level meta does not benefit mages more
A decent amount of weapons don't even lose their scalings when you infuse them with Hollow, so at sl150 qualityfags would just go 40/40/40 and still outdamage magefags.
>>336252093
Hybrid builds have no right to exist when crystal/dark/chaos infusion exists.
Besides
>vit on casters
For what purpose?
>>336251784
i wasnt very interested in pvp on my first playthrough so i just equipped way of the blue more or less the whole time. was only invaded twice though, both times by faggots with katanas (died the first time because of those fucking crabs in road of sacrifice, 2nd time i schooled the little bitch in the grand archives).
blue guy got summoned in archives but the fight was over before he found us
>>336252369
How many times can you swing your heavy weapons with that much stamina?
>>336252454
>an ear
that's a nasty af looking ear.
So it also needs PvP to do? In addition to the rare "way of blue" thing and also added to a CHANCE to get summoned to get it? What does doing all this arduous crap even get you? Is it some weapon or such?
>>336252510
>tfw didnt kill sirris after joining rosaria to get the gesture
>mfw I have to wait till NG+ to get darkmoon blade
>>336252797
Yes, you can farm Silver Knights an an area to get the ears instead, and it's a much faster method than relying on being summoned. Even then the system is broken because I've had several friends say they are in Way of Blue and the Sentinels / Darkmoons never come, even after 10 minutes.
The summon system between these three covenants is beyond broken, and being in Way of Blue gets you no rewards if you summon a Sentinel or a Darkmoon and the invader is banished.
You get a pretty good ring and a not so good Miracle for it.
>>336252853
Fortunately NG+ is a cakewalk
I got able to kill the Dancer before Vordt on my first try
>you need 80 items to get 3rd rank
Suffering
Guess I max out only sun medals, tongues and grass
I think the worst part is that since there's not Poise, casting spells in PvP is a fucking death sentence since spells are easy as fuck to avoid and you're sitting there like a duck and even a gentle breeze can hit you out of your spell. Some are worse than others.
SOMEONE AT FROM THOUGHT WRATH OF THE GODS HAVING A LITERAL 5 SECOND START UP ANIMATION WAS A GOOD IDEA
>>336253124
What? You only need 30 of each respective covenant item to get everyone. Each covenant only has 2 ranks, one at 10 and one at 30, so you only need 30 total.
>>336253019
Wow. Either grind or wait for someone to need help. Would you say the ring is worth the hassle? What's a Miracle?
Is the Executioner Greatsword any good?
>>336252701
3 r1s and 1 roll
>>336253267
You don't get anything for maxing out, but you can
>>336252586
Not the guy, but att is not only for slots but FP. Which softcaps at 35. Also sorcery really need 60 investment not 50.
>>336252586
>4 slots
You do realize you have to actually play through the singleplayer too, right? Let's use the deprived as an example for a starting class. For a melee character you want 27+ vigor, 25+ endurance, at least 20 Vit, and of course your standard 40/40. That build right there is SL 108, but is about as good as a melee build can get with anything extra just being icing on the cake.
for casters you need to put in 50 points to your casting stat (60 if you're pyro), and another 14 points in attunement. Then of course you need physical stats because FP is not unlimited and some enemies will cockblock your main damage type, so then you have to go 16/16 for those. 27 vigor to avoid being one-shotted in PvP, at least 20 endurance so you have enough stamina to roll the fuck away after casting a spell, and 15 VIT. This puts you 1 SL (10 SL for pyro) ahead of the melee character, while being infinitely worse because your only option is fucking useless in PvP and marginally more useful in PvE. The difference is the magic character actually has to make sacrifices to their build, while the melee character gets to have their cake and eat it too.
On top of that, the caster needs to devote estus to ashen flasks, and if they're invading or being summoned they have HALF of their ashen and normal flask. So on top of being weaker, slower, less versatile, and relying on expendable resources, they're also expected to compete at a SL where they have to sacrifice a fuckton just to pretend they can actually play with the R1 brigade. A SL 140-150 meta would at least allow magic casters to branch out a little bit for backup options, whereas melee characters won't be getting a fuckton extra since they already have their bread and butter stats where they need them.
>>336253329
I've literally once waited 3 hours to be summoned and nothing happened. Left my PC on sitting in one spot while I played something on my Wii U, and didn't get one summon. The system is busted and From will likely never fix it because it needs a huge restructuring and re-haul.
The ring is good because it gives you two extra Attunement slots so it's a pretty much mandatory ring for any Miracle / Sorcery / Pyromancy user. The Miracle you get is pretty shit and it's barely better than buying a resin (which temporarily adds an element to your weapon) from an NPC and slapping that on your weapon instead.
>>336235280
>picture of a screen
>playing souls games on a console
>>336253436
Is that two handed or one handed?
>>336253578
>3 hours
>nothing
Damn. Now I see why this thing is being bitched about, they have good reason. Near mandatory equip for this bullshit quest seems awful. Good luck anon, thanks for the answer. Hopefully you'll have a sackful of ears soon.
>>336253554
This. Couldn't have said it better myself, SL meta needs to be 120 minimum.
>>336247549
Probably because you summon in an extremely annoying area.
>>336235280
t. adalberto barbosito
>>336232159
Fuck this so hard
I tried to get this crap with 2 friends and password/matchmaking. One friend being aldrich covenant to invade me. No problem. And the other friend darkmoon to appear/help. NEVER HAPPENED.
>>336251014
this, im doing a spellcaster run on ng and its utter hell. but my slvl 139 heavy darknut inspired knight is having a blast on ng+, made myself a blue setinell and my w/l rate is pretty good.
>>336253554
And this isnt the worst part of it. Sorcfags have to not only sacrifice stats, but they need equipment. So you want your spells to do damage, this is what you do.
2 magic rings - no biggie, can live with that. Thats 10% + 20% on spells
1 magic damage ring - shit, not only is this third ring, but it fucks your physical defense hard. Thats 15% on magic demage and - 10% on defense
crown of gay - 12% to spells and little to nothing to magic damage. - 30% on magic defense
magic candle of literal why - whooping 20% spell buff on an absolutely useless piece of shit item you would never ever want to have on you. I mean shit, this thing even blocks instead of parry as offhand weapon. What the fuck.
And now together with 60 int, your flahsword does comparable damage to unbuffed straight sword.
>>336253712
2h, 9/10 fights grasscrest shield on my back
>>336235280
WE WUZ TROPHYZ N SHIT
>>336235280
>30fps
>jelly
Fuck right off, kid.
>>336241646
Fuck off Matt
>>336247549
>Be a dickwraith looking to invade scrubs
>Cant want to kill all those embers and be useless piece of shit all day
>See a disgusting aldrich peasant. Fucking disgusting.
>Kill aldrich scum, celebrate with ember, kill ember
Whats wrong with you, serving that disgusting blob of shit?
>>336254086
Sorceries / Miracles / Pyromancies just need to be buffed across the board to not need such a fucking huge stat investment. They also need to make Attunement give you more FP per level, and give you an extra Attunement slots at 24 since all the good Miracles need 2 fucking slots for mediocre damage.
If someone suggest a SL meta below 120 you can bet their a katana / straight sword user.
>>336254148
Nice. I'm working my way up to that.
>>336254086
Oh yes, I forgot about that little tidbit. On top of having to pay more investment for much less return, you also need to devote 3/4 of your ring slots to damage, and in the sorc's case your head slot and one of your hands has to have that fucking candle out at all times. Then, and only then, can one of your soul spears hit as hard as some faggot with an estoc pressing R1 twice. On top of that, you can just walk to avoid soul spears, but the R1 spam will stunlock you for at least three hits, so really the estoc STILL does more damage all things considered.
Pure. Fucking. Cancer.
>>336254261
>30 FPS
>PS4
Try 23 FPS.
Why don't you guys get the ears the traditional way instead of farming enemies? Is the summon chance really that low?
Is there a way to make yourself completely invisible despite being up close to someone, or was that a glitch/hacks? He seemed to be playing normally other than being invisible.
>>336240418
>not being adventurer 3 all the time
