Why does Bethesda have such a hard time designing guns?
why does the US have such a hard time designing guns?
>>336187115
To be fair that gun is literally made out of whatever shit people could find lying around. Most of the people using them are on drugs.
>>336187115
Someone needs to find the guy at Bethesda who designed the pipe guns and shoot him so that he'll have a better understanding of how guns work.
>>336187115
Yeah I go a little crazy on the loading screens... I'm like HOW DOES THAT FUCKING WORK??
>>336187374
>Compact gun for pilots and paratroopers
>Bad
Shiggly diggly wiggly woo, I fell for this bait placed by you!
Bethesda sucks at designing pretty much everything.
>>336187115
That would work except for the weird pin that's supposed to hold the cylinder.
>>336187115
why wouldn't it work? teach me
t. non gunfag
>by the time fallout 4 takes place new firearms and ammunition have been manufactured for over a century
>dude pipe guns, its like mad max or some shit now lol
good job todd and pete
>>336187115
People make improvised guns IRL
They look nothing like this
Did Bethesda do ANY research?
>>336187374
>US
MP40 is German you faggot.
>>336188409
well they completely pissed all over hte lore. i don't get why the West coast is so mouch more advanced than the east even though in the lore the east coasters were warned about the nukes and had miore time to prepare
>>336187895
>Shiggly diggly wiggly woo
/v/ has reached new levels of autism, christ
>>336187729
Tbh senpai it's a post apocalyptic game in a fictional universe with zombies, androids and mutants in addition to whatever the fuck deathclaws are and two headed cows. I think we passed the point of realism ages ago.
>>336188510
shitty bait
>>336187115
Pipe weapons are fucking terrible
>Post war items like pipe guns in abandoned pre war buildings
Thanks Bethesda.
>>336188510
must be retard or bait
>>336187115
>Why does Bethesda have such a hard time designing guns?
*Why does Bethesda have such a hard time designing good games
>>336187543
For two hundred years.
>>336188232
its a gun made out of rusted lead pipes, possibly THE WORST material to make a gun out of. it also has no furniture, so you would get your hands burned and/or get your fingers fucked up by cylinder gap.
>>336188703
Quiet, Pete.
>>336188703
It's fine if the guns wouldn't actually work, that would be nitpicking, but they look so godawful and so incredibly unattached from any reality. The Fallout universe is not a universe where this would happen because save for the parts where they tell us their universe differs, we can reasonably expect that ours mirrors theirs. So when niggers are making full retard guns 200 years on when so many better options exist, you really do have to start asking questions.
I just want my fucking assault carbine back
>>336188626
west coast aside just look at fallout 3 which had the g3 style assault rifle, and the ak looking chinese assault rifle and then you had the scoped and suppressed rifles from the pitt. any way you slice it adding pipe rifles was boneheaded and made no sense.
>>336188812
I dont remember where I read about it but I think pipe guns are pre-war which is still just as stupid
>>336188918
>its a gun made out of rusted lead pipes
oh...omfg Todd
>it also has no furniture, so you would get your hands burned
god damn it Bethesda
>>336187543
>Unlock Expert Safe
>Filled with mentats, 4 stacks of pre-war money, and a makeshift pistol
>>336187115
how long would it take to find all the material for the pipe gun and build a gun
how long would it take to find a normal gun?
5 seconds?
I imagine when the workshop properly drops one of the first things that will happen will be a /k/ autismo remodeling all of the pipe weapons to actually appear functional.
Funny how every house has ammo in it
>just gunna store these ten .50 cal rounds in the nightstand honey
>honey we dont own a rifle
>But another set......
>>336188626
I think they were going with the entire water supply was poisoned so civilization couldn't rebuild thing from fallout 3. The story of the game is basically how much of a bitch it is just to get clean water
Intern
>Hey guys, remember that gun you use for the second level in Fallout 2? What if we made a low level weapon or two inspired by that?
Todd
>Sorry, I didn't play that game. Give me some more details.
Intern
>Well it's a makeshift weapon used by settlers who can't afford the newly manufactured guns from Pre-War schematics the Gun Runners sell
Todd
>Makeshift weapon... this could work. Let's give every junk mob in the game one.
Like seriously if you have the capabilities to manufacture these pipe weapons you could probably manufacture other weapons too, the whole idea is so dumb. It would be nice if at least there was some bandit "environmental storytelling" discussing the manufacture and trade of the guns but we get literally nothing.
>>336189238
It is set in the US
>>336188742
>>336188832
I just googled it retards the mp40 was in fact developed in nazi germany and used by the axis powers
checkmate
>>336187115
>Why does Bethesda have such a hard time making good games?
Fixed for you.
>>336189367
gun ownership in big cities and their surrounding boroughs and suburbs is much lower than in the countryside, especially on the east coast.
>>336189384
>oh shit nigga what are you doing.jpeg
lets all take a moment to give thanks to the fallout santa claus who left steamer trunks full of ammo, guns, and grenades at end of every cave, building, and structure. thanks santa!
>>336189363
You're forgetting
>And what if we make a really small arsenal?
>And have an LMG stand in for an assault rifle so it fits power armour!
>>336189384
That's an M3, literally a grease gun. This is an MP40.
>>336188703
/thread
>>336188703
There's a difference between realism and internal consistency
>>336189621
>what if we scale all upgrades so every weapon has only one optimal configuration?
>what if we tier weapons like TES weapons so earlier weapons become useless as you progress in the game
This is depressing me so I'm going to stop but damn they made a lot of horrible design decisions about weapons and armor in this game. Especially legendaries, which are retarded. The only good thing about legendaries is my Explosive Pipe machine gun, with all automatic and explosive perks it destroys everything at level 60+ survival difficulty (launch survival I haven't played the game since november). Same with the spray and pray but I prefer the aesthetics of that particular pipe gun config.
>>336189672
>Copy weapon design
>ITSA DIF'RUNT GUN GUISE
america everyone
It is literally impossible to find any ammo for guns other than the shit in OP without scrounger. Fuck.,
holy shit how fucked is FO4 guys? is it even worth buying?
>>336187374
We learned it from our dad.
>>336189238
The most common auto-explanetion is that they were left by other wanderers/traders/mercenaries as a "emergency supply", knowing that no one is that dumb of searching for resources in a monster infested wasteland
>>336191494
Pls do not bully Sten-chan
>>336191494
Fuck, I love the Sten so much. So pure, my Sten-chan.
>>336191805
>gee, thankfully I found my acorn stash of 3 shitty bullets, really needed these!
>>336191494
>What kind of gun do you want Slavszsazsalsachezvz?
>Just KURWA my shit up komrad
>>336190423
>build a completely different weapon
>it's the same gun guise
retards, everyone
>>336192232
You're right in that way
I've have to put a lot of imagination to try to fill those big holes that fallout 4 had
>>336188893
In a post-apocalyptic world. :|
>>336188893
Is literally Feudal Age with Laser guns and robots, people will be in that poor condition from probably another 200 hundred years before completaly being a stable society
>b-b-but new vegas and ncr
When Roman Empire falled down to shit, China, India and middle west had the most powerful empires and falled down later
>>336194539
>falled down
>falled
>>336187374
The difference is that submachine gun was smartly designed for soldiers like the Airborne that needed easily portable and lightweight weapons. It did its job efficiently.
The abomination in the OP that was made by an "art" student that has no experience or knowledge in practical design is more likely to give you tetanus than fire a bullet.
>>336194539
Except civilization was already on the upswing in Fallout 2 you stupid faggot.
>>336187115
200 YEARS AFTER THE WAR
>>336188703
fuck off Pete
>>336195601
Fucking hell this image pisses me off every goddamn time I see it.
No wonder the writing for the game sucked ass if one of the writers uses that handwave "BUHBUH ITS FANTASY" excuse that every fucking nerd uses to defend his favorite shit series
>post apocalyptic game
>you never find a hoarder's stash ever
>>336191338
nothing makes sense in that game
>That only persons making new weapons are the BoS and the Gun Runners
>Everyone else have their thumbs into their ass and use two centuries old guns
KeK
>>336189205
underrated post
>>336187115
>complaining about the ugly design of a gun that's literally supposed to be cobbled together shit that barely fires without falling apart
Really? You're looking at the Pipe weapons and complaining about the design? They're literally supposed to look like shit.
There's plenty of ugly shit in the game and you pick the thing that's supposed to be ugly.
>>336196310
they live in a city with a prestigious university. With plenty of old-world resources like machines and even books and instructions. ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME THAT FOR 200 FUCKING YEARS EVERYONE CHOSE TO BE THAT RETARDED GIVEN THAT PEOPLE ON THE WEST ARE THRIVING?
>>336189205
>how long would it take to find common household pipes
versus
>how long would it take to find a firearm
...I'd wager if you rummaged through someone's house, you'd find a shitload more pipes than firearms, you retarded faggot.
>>336187115
Bethesda has a hard time designing anything that is actually functional.
>>336187115
I presume they only have one "realistic" weapon designer and a couple other people for Energy weapons and such.
Also, I think it's fairly likely the "combat rifle" is not in fact, a pre-war relic, but rather something produced by raiders (in .45 AUTO) for close range combat.
They mostly seem to be using the variant without a stock and all the mods on survival mode.
>>336187729
it's not so much that it wouldn't work, it's just that the stock/grip would be so fucking uncomfortable
>>336187115
The 10mm pistol suppressed noise is great.
>>336187554
Agreed, they should be viable designs.
>>336188076
But it would work if there was spring tension trying to rotate the cylinder against that cylinder stop.
Would have to manually rotate the cylinder though, probably.
I doubt something that crude would have an arm to rotate it.
>>336187115
>open rust-sealed, locked pre-war safe
>has clearly not been disturbed in two centuries
>it's full of pipe weapons and post-war drugs
>>336196138
The Survivalist in New Vegas had lots of stashes with all sorts of ammo and good shit in his hideouts.
>you're now imaging firing a weapon and having all recoil force go into your shoulder through that shitty bolt at the end of the "stock"
>>336197034
Manually placing loot takes too much time noob. Actually, giving different container types different loot tables takes too much time as well. Containers are either bad, normal or good loot drops, deal with it.
>billions of years pass
>radiation scorched everything
>pre-war guns still exist
>pre-war chemicals are still usable
>>336196138
There is a basement in sanctuary with a preppers stash. Filled with gold and shit.
>>336188630
i dont think you know what that means.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ZbhYTn7.jpg "latest[1].png")
Because Bethesda knows dick all about weaponry.
They are the same fucks that gave us a "combat shotgun" made from a fucking PPSH.
Pic very related.
>>336197230
it really is fucking sad they just couldn't be bothered to do a 'pre war only' loot table
>>336197159
God damn, the Survivalist was one of the best characters in all of Fallout. I don't think I had a single moment as memorable as finding him with the rifle.
>>336197230
Heavens forbid that Bethesda put any ounce of craft in their shit shows, right?
Justify it any way you want, it's poor design, and they are a terrible company with an awful track record.
>>336196661
How long would it take to learn how to design and build a firearm? Would that knowledge even be available to common people?
>>336197034
>>has clearly not been disturbed in two centuries
It has been made to look that way. Pre-war safes would most likely only hold gold and other crap that nobody should need post apocalypse.
>>336197348
i wonder what all the space between the trigger group and the mag feed is used for?
>>336197020
That's actually relatively inventive.
![wattz1000laserpistol[1].jpg~original.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5BPbQwz.jpg "wattz1000laserpistol[1].jpg~original.jpg")
>>336187115
The worst part of it was that they tried to hype up The Institute and make them look smarter than they really are when all their shit looks like common household loot you can find regularly find anywhere in the original Fallout games.
I hate how they just throw already established companies under the bus. Wattz. West Tek. Man fuck Bethesda.
>>336197463
>people who survive when 99% of everyone else died
>common
>>336197348
>They are the same fucks that gave us a "combat shotgun" made from a fucking PPSH.
What's wrong with that?
>>336195441
I still can't fucking stand the fact that Bethesda actively retconned all of the energy weapons into being gigantic clunky pieces of shit instead of mass produced consumer grade weaponry.
Then they come around with the Institute finally having some actual futuristic looking energy weapons that are completely inferior to weapons made 200 years ago.
>>336197230
>Bethesda apologists
You could just make different loot tables for different objects like another poster said. Different categories of containers with different tables.
The game already has that, actually. There's a reason you don't find rifles in office desks.
You're fucking dumb as a rock, family.
>>336187115
>left handed bolt
>>336197653
you honestly couldn't pick up the sarcasm in that post you're replying to?
>>336188703
>>336188703
>>336189784
internal logic, retards
>>336197627
The ammo placement makes it not work.
Again, 'm a fan of the PPSH and shotguns, so i'm OK with this one
>>336197610
>200 years after the bombs fell
almost nobody alive actually survived the nukes, they're just descendants of the people who survived the nukes.
>>336197627
Look at the magazine
Now look at the ejection port
Now look back at the magazine
>>336197528
>gun has internal tube magazine
>attach external drum magazine
>it immediately shits like 6 rounds into the tube mag
>no one in the wastes is smart enough to load the tube so they all just use the drum
ezpz
>>336198050
it uses a teleporting bolt mechanism
>>336189059
Fallout 2 did pipe rifles right. It was a shitty gun that was generally your first firearm and you ditch it at the first opportunity. Now, they're a major focus of the game.
>>336195601
>BLUH ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE REALISTIC SO IT DOESNT NEED TO INTERNAL CONSISTENCY
Fuck this defense, it's writing-cancer.
>>336197348
this design is not very viable.
>>336197634
On survival mode the energy weapons are fucking GOAT.
>>336189238
You don't have a pile of .50BMG, 9mm, .45 Auto, and 5.56x45 laying around your house?
>>336187115
One more thing, if open-bolt select-fire weapons were legal on the US market (or at least possible to make new transferable ones), you could go to a gun shop and buy a Sten Mk2 for like $250 or $300 when the Glock next to it is $500.
If the nation is strapped for cash, lots of shit like that would be floating around, not quite as shitty and crude as some of the pipe weapons in the game though.
Hell, applying some fucking spray paint to the fucking things would make it almost realistic.
>>336198134
fo2 pipe rifle was p much this
>>336198050
Now back to the ejection port
Now back to me
DIAMONDS
>>336196772
>(in .45 AUTO)
>yfw .45 auto is now apparently an acceptable rifle round
>yfw when the fudds won
stoppin powah
>>336197348
I really liked that design though desu
>>336197874
You mean just in this case or is PPSH design inherently bad for shotguns?
>>336197348
Isn't that the Panic Attack from tf2?
>>336198315
it's literally a PPSH with the drum moved forward for no reason
>Survival mode update comes out with hunger, thirst, sleep, diseases and all that fun stuff.
>Enemies have miles of health
>Death claw from the opening quest literally one shots me at full health in power armor and I simply don't have enough Ammo to kill it even when I abuse its AI and bug it against a wall
Jesus fuck Bethesda.
Why are there so many goddamn super mutants on the east coast?
There are literally hordes upon hordes of them, with zero intelligent or central leadership and no possible way to make more of themselves.
I mean fuck, we already see that super mutant numbers are drastically reduced in NV while they apparently sprout from the fucking ground like Orks on the east coast.
>>336197348
how does it do it?
>>336198295
You just let the jews win you faggot.
>>336198357
the magazine is too far forward to feed the shells to the chamber
design is stupid
unless it maybe has a 3 inch barrel or something
>>336198357
The magazine should not be that far forward, the design doesn't make any sense.
>creation kit comes out
>someone decides to completely gut and rework the weapons system
>>336198392
it's moved forward so they could use the same animation rigs for all the guns duhhhh
>>336198474
Radioactive nanomachiness.
>>336198474
From /k/ AGES ago.
>>336198512
>all the ammo varieties
>>336198474
Magic is completely canon in Bethesda's Fallout games.
That is the only real explanation.
>>336198409
hmm I didn't play that mission yet
haven't even tried to kill a deathclaw yet, everything will fuck you up at low levels.
An Alpha mutated dog kicked my ass this morning, stronger than the average dogs.
>>336198581
that seems more like it would make the gun explode than send hte bullet back
>>336198474
better question; what the hell is this?
>>336198581
That looks like it would instantly jam after firing a single shot. And good fucking luck fixing that jam in a combat setting.
>>336198684
it would be stupid when you can use a fucking spring to feed the next round, there is a reason guns don't work that way
>>336198474
>>336197538
>they got some professional k-fags in a room together
>gave them materials & basic tools, told them to make various pipe-weapons
>port results into the game
sup guys
>>336198616
putting on a nice dress raises your charisma and gets you better prices, that seems pretty legit to me
>clothes that look flashy/good
>flash some tits for better prices
seems legit
>>336198453
OHH. you mean the orcs?
>>336198979
The one reason to join the Railroad.
>>336198835
on/off switch
>>336198835
Mag release I'd assume.
>>336198969
BUT WHY DIDN'T THEY PAINT THE FUCKING THING?
WHY IS IT RUSTY?
METAL SURFACE FINISH LIKE BLUING AND SPRAY PAINT DISAPPEARED TOO?
>>336198228
>One more thing, if open-bolt select-fire weapons were legal on the US market (or at least possible to make new transferable ones), you could go to a gun shop and buy a Sten Mk2 for like $250 or $300 when the Glock next to it is $500.
see, that's the thing: if you can build a pipe gun, you probably have access to the materials you need to make a sten or an m3, which are much better weapons, at the very least because they're far less likely to blow up in your face
>>336199012
what about tinker tom's special?
>>336187115
EVERYTHING WRONG WITH BETHESDA AND FALLOUT 4
http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=10267
>>336198835
peg keeping the stock in place? I mean the whole gun seems to be based around
>how fucking retarded can we make a gun?
so having your stock fly off mid firefight seems par for the course
>>336199085
it's just tactical camouflage senpai, everything else in the world is rusty and they want to blend in
>>336198979
oh man when the suppressed noise for that gun was a mouse fart it really pissed me off, especially after they did so well on the suppressed 10mm noise
the suppressed 10mm pistol noise sounds like a recording of someone shooting a suppressed pistol
>>336199085
>he spends more caps on pre-war paint than the gun itself
just need to remove the piss filter
>>336199085
It looks more badass that way.
It's probably intentionally rusted, like those pre-shredded pants
>>336199085
but if it wasn't rusty how could you tell it was post wa-
oh
>>336195601
Why are devs such butt hurt dicks? Instead off being a passive aggressive ass why not just say it was a mistake or retcon or something.
>>336199275
you don't need much to rust blue the fucking thing, some boiling water that isn't full of minerals
>>336199512
at least this explains why I find pipe guns in literally every pre-war safe and chest anywhere
>>336192603
sten gun was british, m80
made from pipes and scrap, cost a fraction of a percent of what the yanks were using at the time
there was a war on, had to be thrifty, wot wot
>>336199358
>>336198581
noguns as fuck here but how would you load the first shell? doesn't seem to be a way to manually push a shell into chamber
>>336199602
>he thinks junkie post-war raiders would know & care about this technique
>>336199643
there was the blyskawica and kurwa's own sten clones though. Although he probably just saw the filename
Atleast Bethesda doesn't randomly forget they're going for 50s retro-futurism and add guns like a fucking P90 to Fallout. Or an AR15 variant full of tacticool rails, or a Pancor Jackhammer, like we're playing Modern Warfare.
The Assault Rifle in FO4 looks out of place, but that's it.
>>336199770
Step 1: put barrel in mouth
Step 2: blow the barrel
Step 3: pull trigger
>>336199643
>Oi m8 wot kindo of roody pooty poin' shooty u want?
>Just FOIK meh shit up m8!
>Cheerio!
>>336199859
No, why didn't the pre-war people do it?
Paint the fucking thing at least.
>>336199512
>pipe guns are pre-war
this makes even less sense
>>336199870
>>336199643
>brits & slavs had to use literal trash
>amerifats parachute in with tommy guns
Is there a lore reason the g3 and ak guns are not in?
>>336200102
Well...
Probably they're like a hobby project for those interested, and apparently the street gangs of Detroit.
>>336200094
>why don't niggers take care of their guns, what are they stupid?
>pre-war pipe guns would last 200 fucking years
>>336200151
>that fucking stock
making junk guns in stanislav's basement the middle of nazi occupied poland but can't skip out on the sick lightning bolts
>>336199128
That's a really good write up.
>>336200206
Because Beth went full retard and dictated that time stopped in the 50's in Fallout 4. Even FO3 had AK variants at minimum.
Despite the fact that FO1 and 2 featured plenty of "modern" weaponry and 80's prototypes that never went into mass production in real life but were used in the Fallout universe such as H&K CAWS and Pancor Jackhammers.
They keep retconning and rewinding the clock in order to force their whacky 50's setting for branding purposes.
>>336199859
So you're saying each raider builds his own gun?
>>336200639
But of course. The lightning bolts are the most important feature.
>>336200984
Are you sure that's why?
Maybe Todd just didn't want to include scarry babby killing "ass-salt weaponss"?
>>336200861
Except it's wrong.
>>336196261
As expected from the minds that brought us FO3.
>>336190423
Fuck you, the M3 had two recoil springs and an entirely different ejection system. It was also insanely cheap to make at $3. If anything, M3 was a ripoff of ghe sten mk II in spirit. Our equivalent to the MP40 was the Thompson.
>>336201721
>>336201721
>buying an automatic firearm for $3
damn. If only
>>336196519
Real pipe weapons don't look ugly though, they're beautiful ducklings in their own way.
FO4 pipe weapons are neglected rusty pieces of shit, they would be better off with a fucking slingshot.
>>336201898
E-11 Blaster
>>336188630
>2011+5-5+5
>shiggy diggy doo wopwop doowow
>>336188630
you fucking newfag
>>336201898
The fuck is that stormtrooper silhouette actually?
>>336196261
^ I hope Todd reads this and decides to allow someone else to manage Bethesda, who then fires every woman on the design team, and demotes every SJW cuck.
Then we could have had nice things.
Who the fuck would make a game story about finding your lost son? No one gives a flying fuck about this imaginary character's family.
>>336202154
Sterling submachine gun.
>>336202104
Slingshot you say?
Well maybe I can interest you in a shoulder-fired catapult that launches magical tiny nukes. It even makes a quirky little bomb dropping sound if you fire it at a distance.
Would that be whacky enough for the setting?
>>336193895
There's litterally a faction thats able to mass produce prewar weapons in Fallout 1. Post apocalypse or not, it's possible.
>>336202265
oh duh, guess not seeing the mag threw me
>>336198897
>nearby jedi
>>336202419
Even in Bethesda's fallouts, I think they made weapons and ammunition in The Pitt, so there really shouldn't be any reason to have pipe guns that shitty on the east coast
>>336202343
Or maybe I can interest you in "Wasteland Ordnance".
nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11427/?
>>336202343
Pants on head retarded but in a fun way, beths fallout isn't the fun kind of pants on head retarded though.
>>336187115
https://archive.is/WVCxd
>>336202128
>I can only add and subtract
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?
Is picking up weapons to get their entire magazine worth of ammo still a thing in Fallout 4 or was that patched out?
Because I don't think many people noticed, but if you actually pick up an enemy's weapon, you'll get the full magazine's worth of ammo from it. Those wiseguys in the vault, 50 .45 rounds each. It solves ALL of the problems people had with running out of ammo but I can't even tell if it was intentional.
It's also fucking retarded, if it is intentional or not.
>>336198453
East coast settlers are pussies.
>>336202343
>you can't make a portable nuke launcher! that's retarded! nobody would ever make such a thing!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_%28nuclear_device%29
>>336198512
It's honestly not as bad on survival mode though.
.38 is viable for one or two shotting peasant enemies like humans without armor, and bugs.
>>336203014
Isn't that what STALKER did?
>>336203205
Did it? Because if so, then it's retarded there, too.
>>336201898
>>336201721
>>336202762
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11226/?
>>336203458
>no Glock 20
sheeeittt
bitches don't even be knowin' bout muh' 10mm
TODD!!!!!!!!!!
WHYYYYY??/
When will Millenia make those fucking mods?
>>336202343
>>336202792
>>336203123
>>336203660
>knows nothing about guns but is trying to make gun-like contraptions
Bethesda is dead to me.
>>336199930
>the guys who came up with the idea did it wrong
i bet you complain about the dwemer in the elder scrolls.
>>336203660
Couldn't they just make crossbows or something?
>>336203729
>knows nothing about ... but is trying to make ...
sums up Bethesda just fine to me.
Their motto should be: "We don't explain. YOU figure it out"
>>336201156
conspiritard pls go
>>336203660
are there any games with actually good makeshift guns?
>>336203728
god the literal NMA autism from this post
>>336203950
The Metro series have some pretty good ones
>>336203763
Then they would need trees with wood that has good spring to it.
You know, things too complicated for w'hacky 50's land.
>>336204009
i posted evidence and all you can say is "autism"?
that's not even an argument. at least try instead of shitposting.
>>336203660
I don't see anything wrong with this approach.
>>336203728
>completely negligent of the resource wars and canda yadda yadda
>you can tell this because of literally 5 minutes of morning routine
>there were literally no well off areas, america was one giant slum
NMA please go and stay go, I don't even like what beth did with the games but you're fucking autists.
>>336203660
Why are the ejection ports on the same side as the magazines? That seems like it would be harder to manufacture.
>>336203950
the pipe revolver in OP's picture is good, should not have been allowed to rust though.
I suppose w'hacky 50's people like handling rusty pipes now?
>>336204241
The problem is that the designers are unresourceful Neanderthals who know nothing about guns but are trying to make gun-like contraptions.
>>336204241
>Ghouls with knowledge from 200 years ago
>guns from 200 years ago
>people who aren't too retarded to learn
>expecting each raider to actually make his own firearm
>>336204197
You can use metal prods
>>336204247
>NMA
literally who?
fucking newfags
>>336204382
Bethesda hates ghouls and always forget to put them in the game
>>336204074
>bastard
that harmonica mag does things to me
>>336187374
>Garand
>1911
>anything John Moses Browning
>M16 and variants with proper maintenance which isn't as much as you think
>Remington 700, especially their earlier Model 514 .22s
>Winchester
I
Shiggy
>>336202883
>2016x1/1
>>336204392
There was an article from a 1950s Popular Mechanics that shows how to make a crossbow pretty much like that, and it would still be more believable than pipe bomb rifles.
>>336204247
>completely negligent of the resource wars and canda yadda yadda
my point was that the American government were just as evil as any other country and were trying to cover everything up. Citizens lived in fear and distrust of their government and their propaganda.
>you can tell this because of literally 5 minutes of morning routine
don't know what you're talking about
>there were literally no well off areas, america was one giant slum
of course there were. i don't know what you're talking about.
>>336204574
NOBODY READS IN BETHESDA'S FALLOUT GAMES. Everyone is retarded as fuck remember? They can't even pull up their pants without the protagonist's help.
>>336204382
>whole clans of skilled, talented neo-neanderthals
>ooga booga me build thunder stick cause old one broke apart
>straight outa compton music starts playing
>50s era
>has Thompson
>no M1 Garand
real tired of your shit Todd
>>336204335
>dat classic fallout weapons mod for fallout 3
its a GOAT mod, fo3 should have had that kind of variety.
There was fuck all interesting weapons in fo3 that mod did what bethesda should have done
>>336203123
>tripod-mounted, not man-portable
>poor accuracy
>no abort function
>would probably end up irradiating the team using it as well as the enemy
yeah no
>>336204702
How could I be so stupid! I forgot that books are only good for wiping
>>336204805
>his machine doesn't kill commies
oh right, that was by people that KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING
>>336204805
^ this is also valid criticism
There's quite a damn bit of it too.
If anyone other than Bethesda had been given the budget (and a couple of the people), what might they have accomplished?
>>336204805
it's not even 1950's era. It's 2070's era.
>>336204623
>fallout 4 puts you in a super 50's white picket fence pre-war houesehold that is completely negligent to all the bad shit that's been established to have been happening
what the fuck were you talking about if not the pre-war segment?
>my point was that the American government were just as evil as any other country and were trying to cover everything up. Citizens lived in fear and distrust of their government and their propaganda.
yes, and the game portrays this in plenty of places like, you know, fucking vaults, like the one you're thrown into right at the beginning of the game after watching us soldiers keep civilians from safety to die by nukes.
Nevermind, you're not an autist, you're just retarded
>>336199358
>suppressed revolver
>without a gas-seal
why doesn't this exist on the east coast?
Where was that thread on /k/ dissecting the Bastard from Metro?
>>336204805
They didn't even include the tommy because of the time period, they included it because
>lol gangsters
if it wasn't for their whole mob crime sub theme I can guaruntee you it wouldn't be in
>>336205110
that's not suppressed. it's just the "long barrel" variety
>>336205136
The close proximity to Bethesda's headquarters turned everyone on the east coast retarded.
>>336204335
>implying Fallout 2 is canon
>>336205110
That's just a barrel. Here's the suppressed revolver without a gas seal
>>336199930
>implying the overengineered and bulky look of the p90 and pancor jackhammer don't fit into a retro-futuristic setting
I'll give you the AR-15, though.
>>336205049
yes the prewar segment. Fallout 4 places you in a 1950's household shielded from the outside world despite all the military leaks and many invasions shown in the original games.
>yes, and the game portrays this in plenty of places like, you know, fucking vaults
I'm talking about even before the war. Everyone looked pretty damn content with everything that was happening. Also vaults were advertised way before the bombs fell and should have been all booked. But for some convenient reason the vault opens on the same day as the bombing and there is room. What a coincidence!
>thrown into right at the beginning of the game
there was no warning of the bombing. most people should have died. Also somehow looking at the nuclear explosion doesn't make you blind? Okay.
>Nevermind, you're not an autist, you're just retarded
maybe you should read the timelines. That should help.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLiEiAiQJA
>>336205209
>gangsters
oh c'mon. The only thing i saw they did is selling cheap price Jet Fuel to poor ass kid and try to look thug
>>336204410
not sure if bait
>>336205431
>oil filter suppressor
>bad
if anything the pipe rifles should be using improv wet cans like oil filters.
>>336202854
Sweet jesus Bethesda fans really are deluded.
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