Memes aside this game had horrible design
>>336175825
I enjoyed parts of it. There were a lot of sections that felt really tedious, but on the other hand there were parts that felt fun or unique, and collect-a-thons have always been a good time for me.
Fuck, sorry, I meant to post
HE
>>336175825
Yeah, it's the most ridiculous amount of padding I have ever seen in the game.
HE
>>336175825
Elaborate.
>>336176824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txRBHfCc0uU
Is DK the most cucked protagonist with a franchise centered around him? Constantly gets shown up by his friends, barely there in two games in the SNES trilogy.
>>336176962
holy fuck he is so 90% right
fuck DK64 but i still like the game
>>336176962
>good game design
>undertale
Next he'll make a bad game design of classic sonic
overly ambitious and like tooie has a wildly inconsistent framerate
>>336175825
Well, yeah.
But when I was younger I played the shit out of it. Anyone that was young did. Because when you're a kid, you don't know what bad design is.
>>336177064
he's still right
you just have hate for undertale like i did
>>336177178
An rpg where you have to save the creatures you fight is stupid
>>336177289
well the idea is stupid, but the enemies are just misunderstood?
they explain why they fight but its very original
>>336177262
>Donkey Kong Junior is Donkey Kongs Father
Wasn't he saving donkey kong in donkey kong junior?
>>336175825
>le dk64 had terrible design meme
Fresh from youtube I take it?
>>336177416
>but the enemies are just misunderstood
They're still trying to kill you like any other "misunderstood" monster so I shouldn't have to save them
>>336177495
that donkey kong was Cranky kong
you need to study up on your kong family history my man
>>336177610
i thought dk was cranky kongs son
isn't dk donkey kong jr?
>>336177604
wasnt it because they didnt know that humans are fragile?
like they do that all the time between each other so they believe its normal to beat each other
>>336177726
Cranky kong is the first donkey kong
Jr is Cranky's son
Present DK is Jr's son
>>336177726
No. Cranky was the DK Mario fought in DK Arcade. DK Jr. is current DK's father.
>>336175825
It started great but as it went on they just started padding it with shitty minigames. Also that framerate is barely playable
>>336177002
>joke side character of Mario spinoffs
>most spinoffs don't even have Diddy anymore
>only playable in 2/4 rare DK games, 2/5 if you count Diddy Kong Racing
>before being revived by retro, he was used for shovelware
>his series is grossly underrepresented in Smash 4 with no assist trophies, Jungle hijinks repeated 7 times and of course, the lack of K Rool/Lanky/Dixie/whatever DK character was voted for
>Candy's smash trophy mentions her catching the eyes of Funky Kong, making DK potentially an actual cuck
>both the cartoon and DK64 mock him for being an idiot
>>336175825
>I have never played a 3d mascot platformer other than super mario 64
>I suck its dick contently
I don't like=/=bad
>>336176962
that split-second pause to emphasize Dixie is better than Kiddie was great.
I'm a big Country fan but I could never get into this game
>>336175825
It's a fucking awfully made game but I still like it. You have to give them credit for making such a large world. The bosses were also really cool.
>>336175825
Was Chunky Kong homosexual with DK?
So, is there really any reason why they couldn't have just used Dixie, instead of creating a new "Kong that flies with hair?"
Considering the sudden additions of things like coconut guns and jetpacks, allowing Dixie to suddenly be able to shrink isn't too far fetched.
I have the same problem with Chunky being the strong character, when DK could have filled that role (instead of being the resident lever puller).
And don't get me started on DKC3, where they thought "We need a strong character. Do we use DK?" "Nah, let's make the most unlikable character possible instead"
Yeah but its not all bad. If you could just swap kongs anywhere except some restricted areas, it would be a lot more tolerable
>>336179282
I miss Dixie. At least she was in TF
>>336175825
Every Rare made game had bad design. I honestly never understood why the first Donkey Kong Country got popular aside from "wow 3D looking graphix!"
Here is everything wrong with DK64 in one picture.
>>336179476
Music
>>336177808
no normal human acts like people do in undertale
if it had been people instead of monster models it would have been completely evident for what it was at the start, and autistic furries fanfic
the concept is great but not exactly original fyi, game was written by a child and lauded as shakespeare
>>336179191
STYLE
>>336179282
There's nothing wrong with Kiddy
>>336179653
BANE???
>>336179476
hey, snake rattle n' roll was pretty g-
well, battletoads WAS pretty good
>>336177262
DEEPEST LORE
>>336177262
Isn't Lanky also Engarde?
>>336179487
Holy shit this is triggering me in ways I never thought I could be triggered.
Best
>>336177289
the thing is that you don't even need to save the creatures.
>>336179282
have no ill will towards Tiny despite putting Dixie on ice for 10 years. They're both cute munkeys.
>>336179282
Thanks doc
>>336177002
No, that's Fox. Half of the endings in Command consist of him getting cucked by Panther.
>>336180295
is it worth monkey aids to fuck her?
>>336180363
But the game promotes saving them as a "good ending"
It's lame
>>336179282
>And don't get me started on DKC3, where they thought "We need a strong character. Do we use DK?" "Nah, let's make the most unlikable character possible instead"
You have to consider that DKC3 is supposed to be Dixie's game, and having DK in a playable role would diminish her importance.
I think Kiddy is supposed to be kind of a gag. As in, the first game belongs to Donkey Kong, the second belongs to his sidekick Diddy and the third belongs to his sidekick Dixie, so I think the joke is that Kiddy isn't a character would get his own game.
>>336179282
This.
They could have had Dixie instead of Tiny.
If they wanted Chunky, just have a grown-up Kiddie Kong.
Now that leaves only Lanky being the new Kong, which is great, because he's the best new Kong of the Tiny/Chunky/Lanky.
It only got the typical problems that pretty much every early 3D game had.
>>336177002
>Worst character in every playable DK game appearance
>virtually worthless advantages over Diddy in first game
>kidnapped in both sequels
>shittiest character in DK64
>Gorilla Grab was the best Rare could think of
>Gorilla FUCKING Grab
>literally just pulling levers
>introduced as being bigger, faster, and stronger too
>game has characters that are bigger and stronger or faster
>every Retro character has additional abilities DK doesn't have
Being DK is suffering.
>>336179282
The game would have covered all grounds with DK, Diddy, and Dixie. DK with strength, Dixie with flight, and Diddy with speed. I don't understand why they introduced all those redundant kongs. Lanky is a different story since I don't know what his purpose is besides having no style, no grace, but a funny face.
>>336175825
Yeah, DK64 went way over the top with the collect-a-thon gameplay. Makes Tooie look tame in comparison
>>336182375
Fucking DK had a hard life.
>DONKEY KONG country
>only playable in one game of the SNES trilogy
>gets cucked by Mario in another game called DONKEY KONG
>>336179487
DELETE THIS
>>336182771
The ability to stretch his arms out could have been an interesting idea, but the only place it seems to have any use is the final boss.
What's Tiny Kong's favorite NES game?Battle Toes.
>>336177262
Is that fucking jimmy neutrons hair on donkey kong
>>336177262
>>336185083
I knew I wasn't the only one who noticed that.
![[HMMS EXTERNALLY].gif](https://i.imgur.com/utBuzhM.gif "[HMMS EXTERNALLY].gif")
>>336179476
>Banjo-Kazooie
>bad design
>>336181079
Does anyone have the picture by minus8 of dixie putting a condom on the viewer while warning about the dangers of HIV? Thanks.
>>336175825
I think the core design is fine but they went overboard with the collectibles, especially for a game with 5 characters
>>336177604
hating undertale because it gives you the option to do a non-lethal run is one of the most petty things I've seen all week.
You can spare enemies in MGS3 as well, and in fact it makes a certain segment easier if you do. But I bet that doesn't invalidate the game for you, because you've been conditioned to love MGS.
>>336186305
Yeah that's some of the strangest criticism I've seen of that game. I didn't care for Undertale and eventually uninstalled when I met the fat dinosaur, but the 'morality system', if you want to call it that, felt fairly fluid.
DK64 should have been a Banjo game.
>>336179476
They did a lot of decent stuff for the N64. DK64 just wasnt one of them.
Candy Kong used to make my peepee feel funny
>>336186817
why is he choking that lady!?
>>336186978
Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are what they're more remembered for. I honestly felt that while they were fun, they had glaring design issues even for their time. Which design is not just limited to the layout of the levels or how easy/hard the game is. Though both of those also had many flaws. Design also encompasses how well they utilize the hardware and software limitations. A game like Perfect Dark tried to push the limits of the N64 so much, it went past what the N64 was able to do. Leading to massive lag and a graphical mess in some areas.
>>336187106
Candy Kong was my first fap.
I didn't know what happened but I came.
Never went furry though.
I've always thought that cranky kong is in reality the donkey kong from arcade games era, and donkey kong JR is in fact our actual donkey kong, and that's why cranky call him Junior in DKC1.
I don't know how you can all like DK64, imo it's just a regression if you compare it to DKC, it actually try to look alike banjo games but with bad level conception and a shit ton of collectibles, yeah too much collectibles and too much backwarding and you are forced to do every stage with all kongs if you want to get the 100%
It's just a bad banjo's clone, and i probably have more respect for conkers than DK64.
>>336187297
I don't think monkeys count as furry
>>336187234
Jet Force Gemini was top tier too
>>336187327
bond burgered
>>336179282
Tiny and Kiddy were going to be in 64, but the designs changed so much, they made new characters. Same thing happened with Diddy originally being DK Jr. But kong war fan theories all say DK Jr. is DK's dad. Despite Diddy originally being DK Jr.
>>336187512
That game is still my favorite Rare game to date. But its a perfect example of a rushed game with so much wasted potential. If Rare didn't drop all their good members and then run off to Microsoft, it would have been nice to see a remake or sequel.
>>336181079
Doesn't AIDS comes from monkeys?
![vela___jet_force_gemini_by_cristianac-d5iqz84[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/spV4NIl.jpg "vela___jet_force_gemini_by_cristianac-d5iqz84[1].jpg")
>>336187861
Would you a Vela, though?
>>336188308
That's a theory. But no one really knows where it came from.
>>336179282
I give credit where credit is due; Dixie being the star of her own game(Two counting Land 3) was a ballsy move, and one done early on when DK got revived with DKC. Donkey, Diddy and Dixie were stars of their own games and were on equal footing, unlike Mario who hogs all the spotlight. That said, you're right about Chunky and Tiny. Lanky ironically is the only one that fills a niche and could stand alongside DK and Diddy with no problem. I hate that the other Kongs are regulated to powerups for DK. Next title needs to allow us to have whatever Kongs playable solo, with the option of having a buddy. And more animal buddies, too. Engaurde being left out of Tropical Freeze was the stupidest thing Retro did after letting Tanabe bully them out of using the Kremlings.
>>336189389
I don't know how Engaurde would even work in TF, since you're already way overpowered with the swimming controls in that game as it is. If they bring back Engaurde, they'd need to make the kongs useless again in the water like they were in the SNES games... not sure if I'd want that desu
but yeah they really need to bring back other animal buddies for sure like Squawks and Squitter.
>>336190067
Enguarde could take out enemies you couldn't, and could be used for time attack. It just seems barren with just Rambi. Another problem I have with Tropical Freeze, it played it safe in some areas. Even DKC1 had four animal buddies. I'm sure they could be worked into modern gaming.
>>336187532
>>336175825
I thought it was fine, most of his argument implies that you HAD to collect everything, when beating the game only requires like 20% of the shit to be collected.
I can see why it would be a nightmare for completionist, but I'm not one, so fuck it.
