http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-04-22-gearbox-confirms-that-borderlands-3-will-be-its-next-game
>Gearbox has officially confirmed at a PAX East panel attended by Eurogamer that it will be developing its third Borderlands game (the Pre-Sequel was created by 2K Australia) after it wraps up production on Battleborn and its DLC.
Who hype here? Also, Borderlands/Bordermemes/Memelands thread.
Dang I am still slowly playing the first one when I get drunk
>>336162673
FUCK OFF ANTHONY
Bretty hyped
Borderlands is a mediocre series, unless you play with friends, which makes it just barely palatable.
I played the first game to completion, but never beat any of the DLCs because the game is boring as fuck to play alone.
I went and bought 2, hoping that some people still played it, but alas that is dead as well.
>cucklands
>hype
go away burch
>>336162673
They need to add gun crafting
>>336162837
He's been fired for a while.
>>336163170
Really?
Game might actually be good then.
Staying tentatively hopeful.
>>336162837
>>336163075
He got fired.
How's B2 solo? My brothers and I were playing it but they got bored and we dropped it. Kinda feel like finishing it
>>336163170
>>336163264
Who gives a fuck, still shit thread, for a shit series, by a shit company
>>336163170
>>336163264
I thought he just left on his own to work on other projects. Did he really get sacked?
MAKE REVOLVERS GREAT AGAIN
i want to be hyped but 2 was just way too mmo grindy. as average as tps was one of the few thing tps got right was the grinder to recycle all the shitty purps you got. and of course you know they're going to nuts with nickel and dime dlc again and probably only do 2 actual add ons the rest will be skin packs and gun skins.
>>336163381
Entire series is only fun if with friends
Post things you want to see,Ill start
>Zer0 runs a "dojo" thats actually a bandit clan full of bandits pretending to know martial arts
>>336162673
wow, shock
1 was the only good one and now they pretend it doesn't exist, who cares.
>>336163381
You won't have fun.
>>336163138
And armour/vanity/skillcrafting
>>336163584
Tales season 2. Not even joking.
>>336163381
>How's B2 solo?
its fine. you can enjoy normal and tvhm by yourself and still have lots of fun. don't even bother with uvhm though, even with friends it gets super fucking boring farming the same shit over and over. this is where a lot of people will tell you game went to shit (which it did)
>>336163027
I never play with other people. Love Borderlands.
>>336164618
>Rhys and Lilith become the antagonists of BL3
This is what I want.
>>336163027
Ahh shut up with this shit they're good games. They're fun games. Who HIV s a fuck about writing.
>>336165851
mah nigga
>>336165851
(You)
They should take a page out of Hello Games' repertoire, and go fully procedural with their content.
The engine already supports a gorrilion guns. Might as well make it so that it generates a gorrillion planets and moons, across a galaxy. Then, make it so that each game successively unlocks more of the galaxy.
>Borderlands 3 introduces you to 250 parsecs of space or 1,000ly volume of space; where every star within it can be visited.
>you get a ship
>the ships you can get are procedural and therefore, they can get pretty crazy
>you're a vault hunter
>there's vaults across the known galaxy
>you can take bounty's across this 1k ly volume
>you can make money
>you can use this to buy armor and guns, eventually vehicles and ships
>every successive game unlocks another 1kly
>every successive game adds more content
>every successive major expansion DLC adds more features to the engine so more crazy shit can happen
>simultaneously, by doing this, they can create special areas similar to original borderland game within the 1k ly space that they intend to increase with each engine version.
>when the entire galaxy is unlocked, they announce that they're going to reset the galaxy and randomize all the spawn points
>suddenly the large community that had built up with the games, will all start a new and go about their adventure
Would be 10x more entertaining than No Man's Sky and Borderlands 3.
>>336165851
>guns become worthless in later levels
>massive amount of options trickles down into 10-15 guns
>fun games
I liked Handsome Jack but I doubt he'll be in this game since he's, you know, dead
Borderlands is such a boring series though.
>>336162673
I expect nothing and I will still be disappointed
>>336163027
>I went and bought 2, hoping that some people still played it, but alas that is dead as well.
It's got 8k people right now
>>336163584
tiny tiny is grown up more and she works with torgue making stuff that explodes. she no longer talks like a wigger and has a real voice actress and is one of the playable characters.
>>336162673
>no more burch
hopefully the weapon drops will be not shit and the enemies will be not shit!!!!!
>>336162837
Reminder that he is probably responsible forScooter's Death
>>336166748
Nah, the VA was losing his voice and wanted Scooter to die. He said so in an interview.
Cool. Hopefully we will get to see more planets and pandora will just be a tutorial. Would be nice to see the other planets and corporations. I'll play battleborn in the meantime to get my memes.
>>336166748
No scooter's VA aka lead writer for borderlands 1 went through a seizure or stroke or something and had to go through physical therapy to get his voice back so he wanted scooter to die so they wouldn't have to change VA's. My bet is he will come back in 3 as scooter's supposed illegitimate son.
As excited as we all are for BL3, can we also have some excitement for Battleborn? I mean, the article mentions it a couple times so it's only fair to let Battleborn have some hype.
>>336162673
Another memelands eh? They better update their databases and have cuck jokes, wew lads, Don't tread on me, and I wanna fuck that jokes.
Make Torgue guns fucking functional again
Remove Dahl guns shitty gimmick with burst fire
Remove the fuck out of Tediore shitty as fuck gimmicky ammo wasters
BRING BACK ATLAS
>>336162808
Jesus, I thought I was the only one. Just finished trechers landing, stopping fpr the night to watch some netflix.
>>336167428
Battleborn is often ignored because people think its just an overwatch clone
Looking forward to launch
>>336167069
>>336167421
Oh geez, I didn't know. But I understand and respect his decision. Still, its a damn shame. Scooter was a real cool guy, and I wish we could have gotten just a bit more of him. But what can you do?
>>336168502
>people think its just an overwatch clone
That's what saddens me the most. They think they're the same thing because they see multiple Heroes and FPS. I've heard that Battleborn is more MNC and Overwatch is more TF2, but I haven't tried Overwatch or MNC so I just have to take their word for it.
Free Overwatch beta coming up though, might try it out between some Battleborn matches.
Best vault hunter
>>336166573
>Boganella
>>336168224
>Remove Dahl guns
Shitty opinion you got there, fampai
>>336170001
Just burst fire. Normally their guns are great but the burst fire feels useless
>>336169416
thats not Wheilhelm
>>336163402
Nah he definitely got the boot.
>>336169416
I feel like she, Maya and Zer0 are the only non-useless vault hunters in 2
They did nerf the fuck out of soldier compared to first game
>>336170153
Burst fire is great if you can keep it trained on crit spots. The only time it doesn't work is at longer range or with snipers if the recoil is too high
I really don't know how it took this long. 3 years into this gen and they haven't made a Borderlands yet except for last-gen Pre-Sequel and ports.
Its an okay series, 3 7.5/8 out of 10 games. Quality is definitely all over the place in the games. I only play them one time through because the content is just boring as fuck and the weapons aren't fun to use.
BL2 especially had dull ass fucking abilities.
I'd like 4 characters, with 3 abilities each. Instead of 3 trees based off 1 ability, its 3 trees each tailored to 1 ability each.
More replayability and gameplay changes than any one weapon could do.
>>336170493
>As a former angry misogynist (about 10 yrs) I can attest to the fact that becoming a feminist made me WAY happier/more attractive to others
This reminds me about how I know a guy who was a young earth creationist and recently became a hardcore Dawkins enthusiast. Is there some sort of psychological word for this, being so embarrassed by your past you repress it by jumping to the other side of the fence?
will anthony be working on it? it might be a decent game if not
>>336163483
Is there even a fun gimmick?
>>336170527
>not krieg who literally one shots everything and gets stupid damage reduction and heals
Maya is useless solo
>>336166216
Pretty sure they just got past DX 9 with the presequel.
Quick!
You have three wishes for BL3, what do you do?
I'd say
>Minimal memes
>no stupid gun gimmicks like lolexplodingreload etc
>Bring back S&S
>>336171101
Mashers
Like Atlas/Jakobs shotguns but even better
>>336162673
>supporting Randy "Fuck cripples" Pitchford
>>336170493
>That New-U plot re-write
Holy shit, that would have been so fucking awesome. Especially the impact it has on the nature of life and death and Tina's breakdown, those were really well thought out, and the fact that Burch wrote BL2 instead of this guy is a cardinal sin.
>>336170849
>I'd like 4 characters, with 3 abilities each. Instead of 3 trees based off 1 ability, its 3 trees each tailored to 1 ability each.
I believe Battleborn might actually be a tech demo for this type of system.
Instead of just focusing on one ability, focus on one type of play style like WoW's early talent specs.
>>336171531
>guns that actually feel like guns and not shitty toys
>fix the level scaling
>at least one side-quest about Anthony Burch
>>336166216
>can't make a gorrilian guns interesting
>expecting progressive ship combat
>>336171531
Mobility
No random cone spread
Full gear (more than mod + shield; melee pickups)
>>336166216
But Anon, that would require butt tons of actual work! Done by talented people even! This just isn't feasible in our blockbuster GOTY(Game of the Year) AAA quality product that we wish for you to purchase and support with the additional purchase of DLC(Downloadable Content) with the first batch of timed exclusive content coming to the Xbox One™ platform.
>>336170849
>I only play them one time through because the content is just boring as fuck and the weapons aren't fun to use.
>BL2 especially had dull ass fucking abilities.
>7.5-8/10
..
>>336171531
Playable Loader with different abilities and attachments to emulate the various types of loaders seen in BL2, like TPS Claptrap but less likely to annoy other people
Torgue sniper rifles
More set items like Diablo 2 that add bonuses when they're all equippedClaptrap getting an actual moment of happiness instead of being shat on all the time
I'll have to see what they change/fix/break before I decide to care or not.
>>336172097
The games are about 20 hours long, full 4 player co-op and some quests or "dungeons" are okay.
>>336171974
Didn't fit "more than 1 ability", but that could replace "no random cone spread" with an overall "decent gameplay".
Terraria has better and more deep gameplay than BLands.
>>336163584
Playable Dr Zed.
Playable Captain Scarlett.
One uses shock, acid, and has boosts for melee and shotguns, for a mad surgeon feel, the other uses fire, explosives, boosts for pistols, grenades and rocket launchers so you can be a pirate bombardier.
>>336172247
Gameplay.
>>336172289
Is Scarlett alive? She just kinda disappeared after you killed Roscoe.
>>336163027
>>336163027
>that is dead as well.
haha no
I have bl2 since launch & all the dlcs, played it for a few hours few days ago, started uvhm2 with a Zero and got a 4 players party within minutes, same with a level 7 gaige.
bl2 and all its DLCs are easily one of the best things to get on steam for multiplayer unless you're allergic to the style or the 'memes' ( I play bl1 since launch and it never bothered me, I focus on the gameplay rather than the silly things ).
>>336172382
She escaped, she tells you not to steal her pistol that she dropped while escaping, but if you do she basically says it doesn't matter, she'd have done the same.
I'll buy it if my damage numbers aren't over 10k at max level
>>336172669
I see, well at least she was understanding of you taking her pistol. Now I really hope she comes back in some manner.
>tfw related to krieg voice actor
>>336172924
Krieg is the best Borderlands 2 character bro.
>>336170849
>BL2 especially
Roland was a turret that could only shoot 180º while Axton had two that shoot slag, could shoot from the other point of the map and exploded (that's without mentioning other personal buffs from him).
Mordecai could only be specialized into long and mid range while Zero could go both into sniper rifles and melee, or even mix both of them simultaneously.
Brick just hit shit with his fists. Krieg can kill people with a buzz-axe, turn into a bigger psycho, put himself on fire and make everyone around him explode.
Lilith just moved fast while regenarating health. Maya could pull a guy dealing elemental damage to him, attract other enemies to the former, making them fight amongst themselves and heal down party members with his skill.
You're fucking delusional if you think BL2 had worse skills than BL1.
>>336173042
It's not all of what it's supposed to seem like. Dropping a turret ever few minutes or whatever isn't the crux of modern gameplay.
>>336166216
You very obviously have no experience with programming or any technical aspects of electronics, instead prefering to think of a computer as some 'magic box' that can do anything.
>>336173042
It doesn't even fucking matter because literally every single skill at end game become useless due to enemy health scaling.
Axtons turrets dont kill. Zeros melee doesnt kill. Kreigs buzzaxe doesnt kill. Mayas ball thing doesnt kill. All skills, regardless of what they are, only ever wound or hurt a single enemy.
What it all came down to was whether or not you had a Double Penetrating Unkempt Harold and a Bee shield.
>>336173221
>Moving the goalpost.
Are you retarded? We're discussing the fact that you said BL2 had especially worse skills while they are miles better than the others and had more to them once you get to higher levels.
>>336173525
>"The skills are dull"
>Give comparition about why BL1 are worse
>"I-it doesn't even matter!"
You might have brain damage.
>>336173587
>you said
Anonymity.
>BL2 had especially worse skills
It says "BL2 has dull abilities".
The Gunzerker was especially awful. Cone spread is shitty gunplay.
>>336173820
>It says "BL2 has dull abilities".
>>336170849
>BL2 especially had dull ass fucking abilities.
Holy shit, you are retarded and can't read. Just kill yourself.
>>336172916
http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Captain_Scarlett
She's more than understanding apparently.
>During the mission Grandma Flexington's Story: Raid Difficulty, Grandma Flexington mentions running into Scarlett at some point. She mentions that the Captain is a very polite person, and holds no grudges against the Vault Hunters after what happened, and suggests that they hook up with her.
>>336173587
>>336173820
Also, it's not as if the abilities are even sorta interesting until later levels. There's no reason to restart the story for better gameplay if all it's going to be is mini-upgrades and getting OHKO'd every level.
>>336173042
>brings in Krieg because he knows Salvadore sucks shit compared to Brick
Also Roland could actually hit respectably hard with his own guns and was durable as fuck. Axton sucks shit on his own and dies in two hits towards the end of the game and subsequent playthroughs.
Roland uses his turret to compliment his own firepower and orovide cover. Axton uses his just to function.
One is more fun to play than the other.
>>336173525
Krieg can still kill m8
>>336173978
Maybe he liked roleplaying as a dude with a bird or something.
BL2 isn't the be-all of gameplay. If you can't rebut that statement, pls stop posting.
>>336172382
Mentioned again by Grandma Torgue in the thanksgiving headhunter thing. Shes busy lootin and plunderin nursing homes yarr.
>>336173042
>Lilith just moved fast while regenerating health.
All you needed.
>>336171531
dark humor again
scaling like 1
More weapon variety
>>336174037
I'm sure she plans on totally not betraying us if we ever run into her again, unless she means it this time.
>>336174207
Lillith was ultimate OP though. I missed playing her in bl2.
>>336174093
>>brings in Krieg because he knows Salvadore sucks shit compared to Brick
I was comparing melee characters, autismo lord.
>Also Roland could actually hit respectably hard with his own guns and was durable as fuck
We're talking about the skills themselves, nigger.
>Axton sucks shit on his own and dies in two hits towards the end of the game and subsequent playthroughs.
You realize there are countless of people that have beat raid bosses with him, right?
>Roland uses his turret to compliment his own firepower and orovide cover
Roland's turret did shit for damage and the cover was terrible though. Axton turret actually kills shit IF you put it in a safe spot instead of the middle of the fray.
>>336163584
>Ice and Laser weapons come back
>Grinder allows for more specific recipes to cut back on the loot grind
>Goes back to how BL1 did gun-components
>Tales from the Borderlands writers write the whole thing
>Athena and Gaige are playable
>Axton, Salvadore, the Huntress, and Krieg only get small mentions and aren't forced into the story despite having barely any personality and being boring as shit
>Claptrap finally fucking dies
>Maya/Lilith actually fucking interact with eachother and address the fact both are Sirens
>Level scaling is unfucked back to BLQ levels
>Jetpacks that work the same as O2 units in TPS get added
>Lilith remains the boss of the 'good' faction and is beloved by the other vault hunters, just to piss off the autists
>Player characters respond to eachother and NPCs like TPS, but with more lines
>Really just fucking make it more like BL1 but with the improvements from TPS (but better) in general
>>336174529
She did get fucked over the first time she tried it. Hell, that wouldn't even be an issue if she was playable, could probably get a few funny lines from her about betraying the party, or looking to replace her Rakk Hive with whatever vault guardian the players stumble across.
>>336171531
Better story and characters including great vault hunters that aren't lacking in personality like maya.
Tighter gunplay that feels more responsive and better guns to use.
Get back to the gearbox humor of 1. While I did like 2's humor as well it just wasn't as good and relied on lol randum a little too much for my tastes instead of the plain absurdity of 1.
>>336173042
Brick has easily the most broken support ability in the game, safeguard and could made to give the entire party upwards of a minute to get second wind. His rocket build also didn't have to deal the bullshit that was 2 on's ammo system for launchers.
Roland made ammo consumption irrelevant, and was easily the most helpful in keeping everyone alive and supplied.
Mordecai ignored shields and could gib most everything without relying on gimmicky grinding to get his sniper damage up
Lilith could be built up to be an insane dps machine, and her ability allows her to be everywhere to she needed to be to do.
2 had more variety and more interesting trees, but 1 had seriously broken skills and a scaling system that really allowed them to shine.
>>336174968
>Better story and characters including great vault hunters that aren't lacking in personality like gaige, krieg or TPS characters.
Fixed. Maya had barely any personality.
>>336174867
>Jetpacks
Pretty minimal.
>tfw the reason Gearbox is still alive is thanks to deluded borderlands fans
Do none of you remember Colonial Marines? Or Duke?I'm not blaming them for forever, that was 3D Realms fault almost completely, but moreso the bullshit they've been pulling lately with the IP
>>336175162
>2 had more variety and more interesting trees, but 1 had seriously broken skills and a scaling system that really allowed them to shine.
So, you are actually agreeing with me?
>>336174867
>>Tales from the Borderlands writers write the whole thing
Please no. I'm sick of burch shit.
>>336175238
They're literally the best new addition to the series since the first game and are the primary reason TPS has the best gameplay of them all.
If BL3 doesn't have jetpacks I'm probably not going to buy it tbqh
>>336175372
Burch only wrote like two scenes and you could obviously tell it was him.
>>336175474
Could be more.
>>336175335
In so much variety, yes.
Actual usefulness? No, 1 was way more broken shit. So it's half an agreement.
>>336175516
I want nothing to do with him or his stupid jokes, so I'm good on more tales shit.
>>336175582
>In so much variety, yes.
Which was my point. So yeah.
>>336175670
>not liking Tales' writing
I mean at the very least it's an order of magnitude better than anything else we got in BL1/2/TPS, excluding Burch's two scenes.
>>336175839
>I mean at the very least it's an order of magnitude better than anything else we got in BL1
I disagree strongly.
>>336175839
I personally liked both more or less the same. Didn't really gave damn about Scooter dying or the romance between the protagonist, so it evens out.
>>336174881
Wouldn't it have been the second time she tried it since she was working with Sandman before the dlc happened? Either way, a playable Scarlett would be super enjoyable.
>>336174867
>Krieg
>Boring as shit
Fuck you. I want to find out who fucked with Krieg and who he used to be
Rooting for a F2M trans siren, it's lore-friendly after all! :-)
>>336176024
LOL 3 BALLS! LIKE WOW, 3 BALLS!
>>336176054
Wasn't it kind of stated that Hyperion or Jack fucked with him in a similar manner to what happened with Tina's family?
>>336176191
So we're going to cherrypick 1's random humor to try and make wholesale arguments that it's inferior to tales? Okay
>>336163027
This Jesus Christ.
>>336176438
NED WITH A MUSTACHE! SO FUNNY GUYS ROLF!
>>336176054
He's an insane murderous and psycho, just like the thousands of other ones you kill throughout the game.
Literally the most boring, one dimensional vault hunter of the lot in terms of personality.
>>336176546
I found that funny, sue me fampai.
>>336162673
borderlands more like boredlands amirite
seriously who would find this game fun, it bored me to tear especially on solo.
>>336176546
But Ned was kinda funny, especially with the I'm totally not Zed dialogue
>All this shitposting
/v/ is so tsun it hurts.
>>336176024
Just to be clear, I ain't this >>336176191 autist.
I found BL1 had really dry, forgettable writing for the most part. Maybe it was due to the presentation of so much of it getting conveyed through unvoiced text summaries for Quests, or the sense of humour just not being for me, but besides a few notable moments and jokes I can barely remember most of the game's writing after three playthroughs because of how bland it was.
The DLC was better, though.
>>336176546
Keep cherrypicking those intro cards, that account for one line of text to pretend it's a showing of the entire game, faggot.
>>336171531
>lolexplodingreload
Nigger I loved those.
And the hyperion shotguns.
>>336177026
>Y-you're just cherrypicking!
Stay delusional.
>>336177053
With all the guns hyperion gimmick was absolute dogshit but somehow their shotguns were something else
>>336170001
>>336176939
The humor was largely dry, dark humor. Which I think is the best fit for the universe, since it's a dry, dark place. Or was anyway. It's hardly the misery squared it was originally made out to be, and has become some of kind of dangerously fun place to be instead. Whacky adventurous shenanigans to be had!
>>336177302
It actually worked fine on sniper rifles as long as you were moving your aim and twitch clicking.
It was first when you rested your aim it started swaying like you were drunk.
>>336177334
Thanks doc
>>336177183
Aw, did we run out of title cards to cherrypick because you don't remember any of the actual in-game humor? It's okay, I know as a tales fan you don't actually like playing games so I wasn't expecting effort from you anyway.
>>336177742
m8, as I said in my other post that autist isn't me. I'm the Tales fan.
>>336177505
Yeah, BL2 marked a really massive tonal shift and I'm still not sure it was a good thing despite liking TPS and Tales' writing more.
Funnily enough, BL2 is probably the game I best remember the writing of despite hating it the most. It's funny how that shit works, sometimes.
>>336162673
>people still looking forward to anything gearbox related after colonial marines and duke nukem forever
Gearbox is trash and so are their games. Borderlands is no exception
>>336178163
Borderlands has no bearing on Colonial Marines or DNF though. DNF isn't their fault either, nobody could have salvaged that mess.Duke was always trash compared to other shooters of the day
I thought the theme and artstyle of the series looked nice, and the gameplay seemed like it could be interesting, but any time I tried to watch anything on it it was just fucking memes.
And I'm not talking about the shitty LPers, I'm talking about the game itself.
Just fucking memes everywhere.
No real comedy.
>>336174867
Terrible all terrible
>>336177963
I stand by my statements if you think 1 having better humor than tales makes one "delusional". Especially when worded like "it's an order of magnitude better than anything else we got in BL1/BL2/TPS"
Trying to say everything in Tales was funnier than -everything- in the earlier games is a pretty fucking loaded statement. Even BL2, and TPS as poorly written as they were had some good jokes in there now and again. 1 definitely is the funniest, but Tales is okay too. It tries to salvage the shitshow of the new setting, and does an okay job considering what little it has to work with.
>>336178790
BL1 didn't really have any memes
>>336178573
Actually it does for Colonial Marines, since Gearbox embezzled money from Sega to help make Borderlands.
>>336171531
>Separate Pistols and Revolvers again
>More interesting skills
>Less fucked enemy HP/damage scaling
>>336178790
BL1 was funny.
>>336179075
Prove it.
>>336178573
Gearbox had control over many things that could have made DNF less shit. For example the two weapon limit they put in place. But instead they chose to roll with that dumb garbage they released instead of making the best out of it.
That plus Gearbox allegedly used Sega money for borderlands instead of putting it in Colonial Marines to make it better.
>>336179173
Tannis monologues about her initial stay on Pandora and her decent into madness and she admires her last overweight co-worker being crushed slowly to death before she smothers her.
>>336179173
Not him, but i almost pissed myself because of laughter in the DLCs, especially Ned and Knoxx shenanigans in the Claptrap dlcs.
wow TIL im really not familiar with all of this BL writing drama. I just play the games.
that being said, I'm one of the few who really enjoyed TPS, mostly for the Ice > Slag and Jetpacks > Relics. Also, Athena.
The main reason BL2 holds the tops spot is the diverse scenery. At the end of the day, all were doing is shooting shit so at least make the environment pretty. Or some more unique missions.
I generally just play the game cause to be social. It's not hard enough to stop you from cracking jokes with friends but challenging enough to keep it fun. I mute the fucking audio in both games because i hate the meme'y humor. once i saw that ICANHAZCHEEZBURGER shit in 3 i almost snapped the disc in half.
>>336178926
>I stand by my statements if you think 1 having better humor than tales makes one "delusional".
I never said it did.
>Trying to say everything in Tales was funnier than -everything- in the earlier games is a pretty fucking loaded statement.
I kinda worded that like shit, yeah. I meant that (imo) I personally consider Tales' writing far better (overall) than that of the first three BL games - not that literally even it's lowest points were higher than their best.
And I guess we're gonna have to just agree to disagree on TftB vs BL1, then, since I think we just have radically different taste in comedy.
Why hasn't gearbox gone bankrupt.
They have never made a good game before.
>>336162673
Just give me another playable Siren, that's all I want.
>>336179491
>"Wait, I'm back? Damn it."
>>336179034
>>336179034
Can this meme please stop? See, i actually remember the fucking source that bullshit popped up in and you know who spouted that? An anonymous blog post by a fucking QA of sega. Real source there Jim.
>>336179372
>Gearbox had control over many things that could have made DNF less shit. For example the two weapon limit they put in place
Too bad the game is designed around it and was done so by Broussard and Miller.
http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=26031903#itemanchor_26031903
>>336179697
The whole "emorrhoids wrapped in bacon" thing has scarred me for life.
I got laid one time because of that line.
>>336179573
Then don't reply to a post that says I'm delusional because i don't refute my argument someone posted two character cards.
Yes, humor is subjective.
>>336171531
>replace the Slag system and fixing enemy HP.
>make enemies more fun to fight and less annoying. difficult but not making me want to break my console from frustration.
>no fucking memes or entry level "i just found feminism" jokes. i dont have a problem with any social justice movement but the shit in 3 was so cringeworthy.
>>336179720
>Too bad the game is designed around it and was done so by Broussard and Miller.
And then Gearbox patched it in later so that Duke could hold 4. They had the ability all along and could have easily fixed the issue, but chose not to.
>Bring back S&S and Atlas.
>Move away from the shitty freedom fighting in 2 and go back to a rag tag bunch of treasure hunters exploring an inhospitable shithole looking for vaults.
>Scaling from 1.
>Weapon combinations from 1.
Would probably be a day 1 buy for me if this was the case.
>>336171531
Add separate loot for each player so we don't have to fight over weapons like retards.
>>336175195
I meant that maya is lacking personality anon. Probably should have put a comma somewhere in that sentence.
>>336171531
I have 2 main complaints about borderlands 2 for which I didn't even bother with TPS. Over level 50 slag is practically mandatory, and you have to choose a backup weapon to get your ass out of FFYL, that means two weapons out of four. Fucking hell let me use whatever the fuck I want or let me use more weapons at once.
Then the legendary gear never ever fucking dropped, almost on par with Diablo 3 at launch.
It just wasn't satisfying in any way above level cap.
>>336180157
>And then Gearbox patched it in later so that Duke could hold 4
And look how well that fares for the balance of the game. The game is littered with universal ammo boxes. The moment you get the devastator, the game is over.
Pic related. And i would have done damn i'm good if i bothered any more.
It's not an "issue" because it's not a broken element. It's just something you disagreed with. I also found it stupid but that doesn't mean the game doesn't work. I just gave you a link where Broussard DEFENDED the two weapon limit. This game wasn't gonna go through yet another redesign. It had been fourteen goddamn years. Let DNF go.
>>336177302
Hyperion shotguns were the shit. Also I always had hyperion guns in general since I played gaige and it corrected for her Anarchy stacks for a little bit.
>>336179720
Can you stop? No, it doesn't have an actual source besides common sense, since marines was so aggressively terrible and literally none of the money they were given looked like it went into the game at all. Meanwhile Borderlands was given tons of attention, and advertised aggressively. Where did the money go? The e3 build?
No, there isn't actually a court case I can point towards because Sega case is frivolous and Gearbox only had to get the game out but you have to be seriously fucking retarded to not think there isn't some underhanded shit going on there, especially considering Borderlands is FOUNDED on stolen art, and even in regards to borderlands 2 stole poster art to promote their game.
I want Anarchy SMGs back, fucking hate Gaige.
Give me back my revolvers, I want my 2-Shot Pestilent Defiler and mashersback you inept fucks.
Make scaling not total ass and don't do that "Overpower" shit again.
>>336180719
>No, it doesn't have an actual source besides common sense,
What common sense? The fact that shit games come out all the time? Woopety doo. Sega releases bad games all the damn time. Sonic Boom went to shit, where did the money for that go?
>Meanwhile Borderlands was given tons of attention, and advertised aggressively
You mean the publishers of fucking GRAND THEFT AUTO spent more money to advertise.their biggest release of the year than the publishers dumping an FPS in February? Eat a dick.
>No, there isn't actually a court case I can point towards because Sega case is frivolous and Gearbox only had to get the game out
Or, and hear me out on this one, Sega knew exactly what happened with the fact that the game switched developers because they endorsed it, didn't give a shit and rushed the game out the door regardless.
Sega releasing shit games is part of their MO. Gearbox's duplicitous acts regarding.plagiarism has NO bearing on Sega forcing the fucking Alien license focusing more on the shooter elements and changing developers without public knowledge.
Hey Slab!
>>336180681
You don't need a damn redesign to accommodate for four weapons, just some balancing, and there's numerous ways to go about this. Doesn't matter if the original designers thought this was OK, it was obviously a bad idea through and through, and Gearbox had the means to fix this easily. Gearbox simply doesn't care to make a good product, even when most of the work was already done for them.
>>336180457
But half of the pleasure I had with 2 was just running into someone's game during bossfight and stealing their fucking loot
When they kick you out it's already too late. Enjoy those whities faggot
>>336181471
>You don't need a damn redesign to accommodate for four weapons, just some balancing, and there's numerous ways to go about this.
Balancing? Is that your excuse? The devastator cuts through every goddamn enemy in the game and is almost necessary for the Octaking. That's the purpose of it.
But the real kicker? Is that fact that Dukes Enormous Tool is a busted piece of shit that eventually collapsed after the DLC was made.
You want to talk about rebalacing a game that barely worked to begin with? Good luck.
As far as gameplay goes, they just need to make the single player experience better. Games are always going to be fun with friends, make it so that there's more to the core game than just an endless grind.
Scaling and gear system needs an obvious overhaul so that lategame is more than just Sham/Fleet, Harold, Grog, Pimp, Bee, etc. etc.
Overhaul skill trees. Make all FFYL skills either like Strip the Flesh or Do Or Die. No useless shit like Optics. More active abilities- class specific ones, potentially even Badass Skills that all VHs can use, like dodge rolls or shit.
Overhaul melee. Melee weapons that have their own attack speeds, base damages, etc. Even shit like throwing knives/javelins would be sweet.
Also, fix all the damn glitches. Loot falling through the floor and terrain clipping has no excuse at this point.
>>336171632
I kind of just assumed there was some shit like that happening or that jack was so arrogant and confident he didn't even have himself uploaded to the new u station.
>>336171531
>leveling is less focuses on number increasing and more on game changing and customizing playstyle
>slightly randomized enemy placement and abilites, i don't care if they rip off RoR's colored monsters at least do SOMETHING with that
>no plot/option to turn off or skip all of dialogue
>>336170493
god are Borderlands fans this autistic? BL2 wasn't even that bad
>>336180693
>Using Hyperion guns with Gaige
>not Jakob's shotguns
It's like you're not even skilling into Close Enough
>>336171531
Dunno. Making enjoyable games is pretty easy if you make games you enjoy.
If the people making it aren't kosher, suggestions won't do anything to fix that.
I put about 450 hours into BL2 and it's DLC, so I imagine I'll enjoy it either way unless they do something drastically different.
Frankly, I enjoyed a lot of the outrageous guns. I'm someone who traded for a few versions of every legendary and tried them all, then modded the game to create some custom ones. Creating legendary grenades with multiple effects was very amusing.
>Launcher that creates a nuclear mushroom cloud in the shape of a skull
>sniper that has a line effect which radiates up from the point of impact, encouraging you to shoot enemies in the junk to deal headshot damage
>pistol that bounces off walls - starts as a single bullet, and shreds into a shotgun spray and deals mad damage if you can land the richochet
>pistol that one missileswhich slowly splits into an ongoing wave of smaller missiles
>Launcher that shoots missiles which fall to the floor and then bounce on the ground in a ridiculous path toward your target
You have to admit they had some good ideas.
If they don't go ham on the legendary weapons and come up with some new and silly things, I'll be very disappointed.
>>336182085
Only BL1 fans and /v/ memester that didn't even play the game and want to shitpost.
>>336181938
>OP gun is OP
>reduce ammo capacity
>reduce effectiveness against most enemies
>reduce ammo pickups with increased weapon capacity
Game may be broken, but it didn't have to be such a broken disappointing mess right from launch. Gearbox had full capability of making it better. Same with colonial marines. They simply chose not to.
>>336182818
>>reduce ammo capacity
69 shots on a double barrel automatic rocket launcher that chews through the ammo like candy? Are you nuts?
And as an fyi no weapon in the game has alot of ammo. Chaingun only carries 200 rounds. The sniper rifle? Twelve.
>reduce effectiveness against most enemies
Because the weapon designed to be THE MOST POWERFUL AND RAREST GUN IN THE GAME needs to be nerfed?
>reduce ammo pickups with increased weapon capacity
The game uses universal ammo boxes at certain points.
>Broken
The game is not broken. You just don't like the design. I disliked it as well but i didn't bitch about it. Especially when our asses were warned about half a year in advance. The game works within the boundaries and rules it presents. It's not the games fault you can't deal with it.
hope they at least fix the health and damage scaling in really late game stuff, would also like to see gun masteries return instead of those shitty badass ranks that carry across characters
>>336183641
Am I the only one that never had a problem with this? Get good guns, have a good build, and even the big enemies pop like balloons. Barring that, play online and find someone else who can do it for you.
I mean, some of the legendary guns can literally one shot the bosses before they're even done the intro animation.
>>336183369
Yes. Sounds fine to me if leaving it the way it is destroys the difficulty of the game.
You have to be absolutely delusional if you think Gearbox didn't have the ability to make the game better and polish out some of the negative aspects of design decisions before release. Same goes with colonial marines.
>>336183894
eh, it got really unbearable personally in NG++ or whatever the equivalent is called in 2, right around the revisit to Firestone, enemies were one-shotting me and I needed a full ammo count to take them down even with a fully kitted out character with legendaries and such. I only play solo as well so there's that. The 1st game's balance seemed a lot better imo, gear kept you going without having to grind for super weapons even in later playthroughs and it seemed a lot more consistant
>>336183894
Are you new? /v/ is terrible at vidya, especially FPS.
>>336183894
At OP8 it gets ridiculous, though. You can mob just fine, but it still takes a very specific setup to one-shot enemies consistently.
Hell, you need a specific GRENADE MOD at OP8 to have melee Zer0 work properly.
>>336168224
>>336163397
brothers in arms cuck detected
>>336184520
>tediore reloads
>ineffective
>>336183894
the scaling gets insane and the game becomes get better bee/unkempt harold/whatever every other level to stay relevant. Every level is worse than the last.
It's really grindy, and punishes you for just wanting to move on. TPS found a much better balance of exponential vs static growth. Of course there's subjectiveness at play here, but 2 is definitely a slog in its final levels unless constantly farm relevant gear.
>>336184752
Everything about the revive system is awful. A lot of the gun designs made it worse.
>Gearbox confirmed milking the only good series they ever made
Good job news team, next lets make a special investigation on what color the sky is.
They should bring Krieg back.
>>336184973
revive?
>>336184987
Imagine Krieg being a quest giver.
>get replacement parts for his meat bicycle
>murder stuff for no particular reason>help Krieg make a present for Maya
>>336162673
>no Brothers in Arms set in Bastogne
oh well.
>>336185272
I'd rather just play as him. They also need to fix melee centered classes overall since Zero was weak as fuck.
>>336171531
Slightly heavier feel, but balanced with a jetpack that allows lots of mobility, not just a more powerful jump
Make the guns feel powerful, most of them ended up feeling like toys. I want a slow but stupidly powerful shotgun rocket launcher
Minion master
>>336185537
Zer0 wasn't weak, he just required too much setup to be effective.
>slag enemies before going into Decepti0n
>apply Death Mark with kunai
>run behind target
>strip roid shield with Chain Lightning
>aim for crit spot to kill
>do the same thing within 3 seconds for the next target because Many Must Fall EXTENDS Decepti0n's duration rather than resetting it
he could still hit a billion damage on targets with one swing, but again, it just took a ridiculous amount of setup.
>>336167069
>Nah, the VA was losing his voice and wanted Scooter to die.
Why do all good VA's always get throat cancer or some sort of incurable Japanese cold that destroys their voice?
>>336163584
More backstory on the Eridians.
Leave Pandora. See Ocean Worlds.
I desire Female Bandits to shoot.
I just want an insane amount of gun variety. Like, hundreds of different reload animations and color choices that make sense. Armor customization would be cool, also more than one ability. Less memes, more good characters like Handsome Jack. Also have Mordecai and his new bird come back, I need some closure after Bloodwing died.
>>336186993
wow fucking this. not just female bandits, but if were still killing pandora bandits, i want a more in depth looking into their society beyond classes. we got a bit of that in 2 but i want to know more.
and please dont make their outfits different like typical games. i better not see any bandits wearing bikini gear.
>>336187218
>and please dont make their outfits different like typical games. i better not see any bandits wearing bikini gear.
I wouldn't mind it on the Psychos.
>>336187218
You got a little of it in BL2 like how the Firehawk dudes had nomad pyros
>>336187324
i feel like on a few psychos it makes sense but dont make an entire female class. have a variety of bandits skins. for simular classes, with half or a third of them women wearing a variety of shit.
i feel like i talk about aesthetics and narrative more than gameplay but that shit is important to me.
>>336187489
yeah and i loved that! i always desire more with different genders etc.
>>336187571
Speaking of narrative, I think there's a little justification as to why there's so little chicks on Pandora.
Pussy is a luxury and the bandits are convicted criminals after all...
>the lead writer from BL1 is writing BL3
nice, could be good. hopefully burch leaving will work out for the best
>>336163584
I want to be able to kill Lilith
>>336175839
What were his scenes
>>336187218
I'll go one farther, Female Prison Transport Ship crashes on Pandora/New Alien Hellscape. Various types of Criminals are introduced into the games ecosystem. Bandit/Convict children would be really interesting.
>>336188875
mann if we could get into the consequences of bandit children losing their parents (turns out they were just trying to make money to better their offspring's future) and the cycle of bandit..ism? would love to see some shit like that but its highly highly unlikely since bandits arent the focus of the game.
a man can dream :_;.
>TPS
>Guy gifts it to me
>Buy season pass after the dlc before the last one came out
>Turns out they just churned out like 2 characters and 2 dlcs and called it a day
What the fuck? I'd ask for a refund, but I regrettably purchased it a few months back.
>>336188574
I want her to OD on Eridium and turn into a monster so I can put down that dumb cunt
If Tales is canon now, and Rhys picking up the remainder of secret Atlas tech, will the revival of Atlas be possible?
>no details yet
Don't care until I see what direction they're going with this. I suspect an MMO, which I'm on the fence about.
>>336191803
If he doesn't go full on Jack, probably.
>>336191946
But which ending of Tales is canon? Killing Jack or keeping his AI?
>>336192041
Which one was more popular?
>>336192041
Which one tied up the most loose endings?
>Borderlands 3
Oh boy, who's ready for 200 terrible gamergate jokes?
>>336192134
I don't remember percentages. Probably killing Jack because moralfags.
>>336192297
>terrible
Go to bed Burch, you lost.
>>336192331
I would actually prefer Jack to stay dead.
He's been the main focus for three whole games, let's just move on already.
>>336192297
>encounter a new gang of enemies who call themselves the "Gamer Gators"
>depicted as misogynistic smelly basement-dwellers who hate women and wear helmets that look like fedoras
>jokes about ethics in vault hunting
>>336166243
Who needs guns when there are melee builds!?
>>336192770
You do, because melee builds mean nothing in these games.
How about some equippable melee weapons, then we'll talk.
>>336192331
I expected the same but you and I were both wrong, IIRC on PC 57% kept him alive
>>336192927
They'll pull an inFAMOUS and just go by statistics. Make whichever ending more people saw through to be the canon ending.
>>336192747
>gamer gators
have ability where theyre half as weak against female players until a headshot. then they get three times as angry screaming something about the friendzone.
>>336192927
>>336192331
>>336192134
>>336192041
Wasn't keeping Jack's AI just supposed to be a Fate Worse Than Death scenario? Rhys could kill him, or imprison him forever. If he kept him, I can't see Rhys ever releasing him from the eye implant.
BL2 did a lot of justice in terms of abilities and stuff but man, it did not have the same feeling as 1 did nor did its DLC.
I wonder what game they are going to run into the ground by stealing it's funding for borderlands 3
>>336168224
Unkempt Harold Says hi.
Although I do recognize the crapshoot functionality with their slow projectile speed and weird shotguns.
>>336185838
Sounds like all the crap shonen characters go through explaining how they threw a fucking punch.
>>336194661
it never got shonen-protag levels of bad, but it's still enough to keep melee Zer0 from being truly fun.
he's still mad fun in early levels, at least. slicing buzzards out of the sky is a fucking ride and a half.
>>336194661
>Great preparations
>Maximum output damage
>It's time, I will strike
>>336195325
>>336195149
Yup. That's kinda why I'm mostly building my Zero for Sniping/Bore damage. I saw that the Twister is great for that.
>>336195654
Twister's great for B0re and OSOK, yeah. It's just a strong weapon in general.
I just wish it wasn't such a colossal pain in the ass to obtain.
>>336171531
make enemies not take 5 million shots to die
make legendaries drop as frequently as they did in the first game
literally it
>>336195149
Gotta get Law and Order for melee Zer0, Pimpernel for B0re Zer0.
>>336196345
>Law and Order
Order doesn't go past 1 million roid damage at OP8. I'd love to, because they're actually fun to use and Law still does decent gun damage.
It's better to go Hide on melee builds because it has the highest roid damage in the game.
>>336196634
>actually playing OP mode
jesus dude why, the scaling is buttfucking awful as is
>>336196932because i've lost control of my life
Someone explain to me how they're still getting money from publishers when they dicked over Sega with Aliens CM?
>>336197174
dude i can't even imagine how bad OP mode is, the game is obnoxious enough if you don't have legendaries, even with legendaries it's still awful, I can't imagine how bad it is.
>>336199221
mobbing isn't that bad, raiding is still shit. Digi Peak is okay aside from bullshit like Dukino's Mom and Saturn.
i've been fucking around a lot recently with new gear on Axton- the Blockhead in particular is fucking amazing.
If they fix the level scaling and the drop rates I'll pick it up.
>>336162673
Please no
2 was bad enough
>>336164618
Tales was the best Telltales and Borderlands game.
