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How can we save Nintendo from total annihilation?
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zelda is all anyone cares about anyway
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stop wasting your time shitposting on an image board and do something with your life
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Somebody needs to teach Nintendo to make new games instead of relying on 30 year old franchises forever.
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>>336148757
>>336149712
It'll take 40? Or 50 more years of fuck ups before that happens, remember their war chest of money?

Also OP, this >>336149413
>>336149440
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>>336148757
if I recall, last year's E3, everyone was whining and crying because there was no zelda and a bunch of games nobody cared about...

so now Nintendo is just bringing zelda and leaving the other games behind... and some of those same people are now complaining about a lack of variety... lol
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>>336149991
That is a fake myth you moron.
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>>336149991
It only takes me 20 sec :^)
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A decent PR manager?
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>>336150152
It isn't, use google. Nintendo doesn't need saving because they got money and a drone of fucking idiots to support them all the time
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>>336148757
>8bit pixel indie shit topped Mario
>Dark Souls topped Zelda
>driving sims topped F-Zero
>Star Fox is dead
>Metroid is dead
>Animal Crossing is stagnating hard
Only Kirby is still somewhat alive, Nintendo better start stepping it up before they become permanent laughing stocks.
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>>336149413
No one cares about zelda any more.
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From the marketing perspective, they could've had one very mediocre or even subpar presentation on this E3 and only 'hype' or rather at this point even more annoy people for the next year and NX.
Instead they decided to fuck it completely, so that people get super mad and are like FUCK YOU.
NExt year, whatever they show, will thus seem not so bad or even good.
Either that or they have literally nothing.
Still no idea about NX not showing.
It's either not ready, thus possibly even to be released in Winter 2017, or it's another marketing trick, which almost equals to suicide so I doubt that.
Either way Nintendo fucked up royally and I can't understand how fanboys can keep up with this... I mean, I don't understand fanboyism for a fucking company anyway (becasue companies oh so love and care for their customers... pro tip: they don't, never, if you believe them, you are literally retarded) and in this case it's just amazing dedication on their part.
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>hey guys were releasing a new console in less than a years time
>and we haven't had an e3 presentation for 3 or 5 years now

This E3 was the perfect opportunity to build hype for the NX. Imagine how people would have reacted to Nintendo having a presentation this year.

but

lolnope fuckthat fuckyou
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>>336150343
Stop spreading fake shit.
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>>336148757
>1 game in E3
>no nx
Holy shit I didn't think I'd get to see Nintendo die so beautifully in my lifetime. What a time to be alive.
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>>336151354
It's well known in /v/ stop being butt hurt because your thread is shit. They don't need to be saved
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ZELDA WILL BE THE BEST GAME AT E3 AND NINTENDO JUST WANTS TO SHOWCASE IT AT ITS FULLEST

IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO OTHER GAMES

DELETE THIS
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>Sony show the Last Guardian
>people buy a PS3 for it
>Have to buy a PS4 after years

>Nintendo show the new Zelda
>people buy a Wii U for it
>Have to buy a NX after years

Can we stop?
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Why should we
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>>336151508
falseflagging aside, what besides Paper Mario Colour Splash do they have to even fucking show?
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>>336151621
Amiibos

Nintendo is basically a poor mans Disney at this point
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>>336150115
It's almost like people want a variety of new games.

Leave it to a drone though to create a strawman argument like this.
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>>336151508
>best game
Thats not Horizon Zero Dawn
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>>336148757
>Save
>Nintendo
She don't wanna be saved
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>>336150885
It's funny that people keep saying this yet every Zelda sells well
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>>336151621
possibly pikmin 4 but who knows
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We? The fuck can we do? Wii U is about dead, NX is something we know absolutely nothing about on top of that apparently they went back on their word about revealing the console at E3, and we have a new president and we still don't know what exactly is going to happen in the following years. I don't think they're going to die or be annihilation, but it's clear they're in some sort of transition period and still trying to figure out what they want and where they should go.
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>>336148757
They can only save themselves.
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>>336150885
I c-care
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>>336151494
It's not my thread, and /v/ believes any dumb shit (as you've demonstrated).
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>>336152218
Because it's the only thing that's being released at the time.
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>>336148757
Isn't the E3 thing only a rumour thus far? I know they announced NX next year but the only source I've seen for the E3 stuff was some tweets.

If it's true, I am assuming they instead plan on doing some direct outside of E3, though the question would be when they would do it.
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Whelp, thats what happens when relying on gimmicks rather than developing new IPs does
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>>336148757
Not showing the NX is so god damn stupid. When are they going to reveal it then?
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>>336153621
>Rumor
I see someone has been living under a rock, Nintendo statements pretty much said ''Yeah the Wii U is really dead guys but at least we are bringing you a Zelda and Color Trash.''
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>>336151778
tell that to all the metroid fans who are looking forward to federation force
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STOP PIRATING GAMES
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>no cute guys for nintendo treehouse

Is there even a nintendo treehouse happening this year?
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>>336154462
How does anything of what you said have anything to do with E3 and what they're going to show and not show? As far as I know, Nintendo has said nothing about E3 yet.
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>>336152218
No they don't
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What a terrible plan

Why even watch the E3 if no NX will be there?
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>>336154678
For Zelda and Paper Mario
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>>336148757
Don't worry, people will never stop buying Mario and Zelda games. They just have to sprinkle in something new every once in a while like Bayo to keep people hooked to their consoles.
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this is gonna bomb so hard. I'm gonna get comfy and sit back, while watching Nintendo crash and burn like the Hindenburg.
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>>336154756
Ignoring the Paper Mario since I don't really care, looking at E3 for Wii U Zelda is like lining up to see 32X Virtua Fighter. Sure, it's impressive to see running on your fancy hardware but it's still the inferior version that's going to be cast aside by history when people want to go back and play the game. It's a cheap appeasement move that will only hurt the game in the long run, they're only doing a Wii U version at all to save face with those people who only buy a Nintendo console to play Zelda games.
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>>336148757
nothing actually i just want to see nintendo go 3rd party right now the same way sega did
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>>336148757

We can't m8. They're gone.
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>>336154678

It's actually a pretty good plan. They're saving up as much resources as they can to make sure the NX has a good launch and good support afterwards. Wasting time on the Wii U at this point would only hurt them. I'm pretty sure this was the reason for their lackluster 2015 E3 as well.
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>>336154594
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were people this ass blasted when nintendo announced they were doing a digital event and not a live demonstration?

I know moving the NX back is bull shit, but I'd rather have that then WiiU 2.0 with no games for a full 2 years. And just because Zelda is the only game at E3 doesn't mean they won't showcase games in the Digital event, or even durring treehouse streams.

Yeah, it sucks that they aren't gonna be a big presence at E3, and the constant delay but literally every other company has done bull shit like this.

I just feel like people are blowing this shit way out of proportion.
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>>336154624
Anon don't make me bitchslap you
Here are Nintendoā€™s words in full:

E3: Nintendo changes its approach to the show every year. This June, Nintendo will focus its attentions on the upcoming game in The Legend of Zelda series. The Wii U version of the game will be playable for the first time on the E3 show floor, and it will be the only playable game Nintendo presents at the show, in order to provide attendees a complete immersion. Additional information about Nintendoā€™s E3 plans will be announced in the future.
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>>336149712
Why?
I come to Nintendo for Zelda and Metroid, and Pokemon
It's because of these poster titles why I even give a shit, even if it's as little as possible for nintendo.
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delete this already...
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>>336148757
Fuck Nintendo
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>>336148757
You can't. People have finally realized that anime is trash.
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>>336148757
>Fire Sakamoto
>Fire Aonuma if the new Zelda is shit, bring back OoT/MM level complexity
>make new teams for every IP
>Start churning out games (New Fzero, new metroid, a proper console luigi's mansion, new Mario, etc)
>Essentially start a Nintendo renaissance of games while continuing whats already successful (Fire Emblem, Monster Hunter, etc.)
>Make a console that Third Parties can actually get into
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>>336151557
>have to buy a NX
it's still coming to Wii U tho
Last Guardian isn't even coming to PS4 but PS4.5
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What the hell is Nintendo's game plan even? Because it appears like it's a whole lot of fucking nothing so far.
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>>336149712
All casuals care about is Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon.
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>>336148757
>no NX at E3
Bullshit. With all the news and "leaks" about it there is no way Nintendo would be stupid enough to not capitalize on the intrigue.
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>>336149712
Somebody needs to teach other companies to make new games instead of relying on fifa/cod and movies forever.
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My problem is not there being any other games
I'm just terrified they will spoiler the shit out of everything: Nintendo has made a habit in doing this the last years, going as far as spoiling Rosalina showing up in 3D World; and only showcasing ZelaWiiU is dangerous
After the conference I will tr my best avoiding any single discussion or piece of news regarding Zelda
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Is the rumor that the NX will be shown before or after E3?
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>>336158008
At most I'm expecting ''SMT x FE'' teasers of future NX games.
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Nintendo is going full cold war right now
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Just focus on mobile games and merchandising then position the NX as only a console for Nintendo diehards. Shit, they don't even need to make games, they could just milk their IPs dead through other means for years to come. They will never be able to win the normie market away from Sony, especially when the Neo and VR rolls out and overshadows it. Nintendo's target audience has always been the mass market, and unfortunately they are all playing games on smartphones. And I'm not saying they're not popular anymore, don't get me wrong, Nintendo has some of the most recognized characters and games out there, it's just their former market doesn't want to buy a console just to play some of their games.

At the end of the day though, it's their fault for having shitty marketing, considering how god tier some of the N64 and Gamecube ads were. Coming off the Wii, they should have not ended up in the position they are in now, they were literally Apple tier. If they just named it the Wii 2 and didn't cheap out on the hardware like they always do, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
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>>336158008

They know that the intrigue about the NX at this point is big enough that they'll be able to catch people's attention when they reveal it outside of E3, this way the NX won't be overshadowed by all the hype around the MS/Sony E3 announcements.
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>>336159108
This in circlejerking Nintendo groups, nobody gives a fuck outside that
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What if they announced a new bayonetta game for wiiu/nx?
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>>336148757
>wanting to save Nintendo from total annihilation
Their games are shit. They should sell all their IPs to other companies so they can do something worthwhile with them.
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>Underpowered hardware barely any more powerful than Xbox360 and PS3
>Region lock
>Shoehorned fisher price ipad that has 3 hours battery life on average
>No replaceable internal hard drive
>Doesn't come with regular controller
>constantly rehashes their IPs
>Tried to monopolise the early 90's industry and used aggressive business tactics to do so
>Shoehorned miiverse full of retarded kids and pedos
>Shitty account system, purchases tied to the individual consoles
>Poor online features (such as no first party games offering voice chat in-game between strangers)
>E-Shop is a barren wasteland more expensive than physical
>Third party support worse than the fucking N64
>Outdated architecture when literally all the competition PC included uses x86
>400x240 resolution on a handheld in 2015
>Charging a premium price for underpowered hardware
>Now doing DLC (Fire Emblem Awakening DLC all together now costs more than the base game itself) and Season Passes
>Limited fucking demo uses
>NEW 3ds pls buy again
>Forced cult of personality surrounding their execs
>Always trying to ride PC's coattails for legitimacy
>Contributed to reviving consoles from their crash, and ensured that they are relevant today
>In the process, killed Japan's infant PC industry causing their games to be held hostage by consoles
Why do people like, let alone feel the need to defend Nintendo again?
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>>336152729
at no point have they said they would reveal it at e3, they only ever said 2016 and people filled in the blanks with e3. not that i defend the decision, merely clarifying
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>>336158103
lets see here,
Uncharted 1: Drake and Sully search for the legendary El Dorado, while getting them selves involved with a rival
treasure hunter and stumbling upon a secret nazi facility.

Uncharted 2: Drake starts off searching for Marco Polo's lost fleet which then becomes race to reach the fabled Shambhala before a mercenary

Uncharted 3: Drake and company seek the remains of a lost city in the arabian desert first discovered by TE Lawrence

Killzone trilogy: 1 continuous story about a galactic civil war between 2 of earth's colonies


Every Main Mario game except 2: Beat Bowser, save the Princess/World

Most Zelda games: Beat Ganon/dorf save the Princess/World

Every Pokemon game: Beat 8 gyms, beat evil team, beat elite 4
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>>336161145
because muh nostalgia, muh childhood, and muh mario and zelda
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>>336162593
Changing the story doesn't make a game not a rehash m8

Every Mario game is a rehash, and every blockbuster FPS is a rehash.
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>>336148757
Keep complaining about Nintendo on 4chan.

That'll do the trick.
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>>336154594
Stop making exclusive shit.
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>>336162593
>Mario, Zelda and Pokemon's main point is the STORY
you're retarded anon. Could you do the same comparison but replacing story with gamepaly? that'd be fun.
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>>336149712

Does Splatoon count as new game?
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>>336151508

You forgot your hat anon.
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>>336163109

>Changing the story doesn't make a game not a rehash m8

So Star Wars Episode V was a Rehash of A new Hope?

Are you retarded?
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>>336163620
not him but zelda has several mechanics that are used since the first one to skyward sword

a big change that would be interesting is a real physics system the game was built around, nintendo has close to no games were physics are interesting.

btw the star wars argument is complete trash but since it was not made to made i wont answer it
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>>336148757
>the article is rated 1 1/2 stars
Is this nintendo fan's being assblasted or is there another reason? You got a link to the article?
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>>336163274
Mario: Jump on enemies, bosses take 3 jumps

Zelda: get 3 things, then get 8 things, final boss

Pokemon: pick 1 of 3, choose any number of pokemon in your party, grind, grind some more, and grind again

done
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>>336158765
>Just focus on mobile games and merchandising then position the NX as only a console for Nintendo diehards.

This. Having niche appeal isn't a financial death knell. Atlus and Platinum are still around and From Software found success without having to cater to the lowest common denominator.

Nintendo's higher ups are just too proud to admit this.
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>>336164161
Temple of Doom is a rehash of Raiders of the lost Ark
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>>336164474
oh also,
Mario: move right to progress, trial and error
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>>336149991
There is not a single company that can afford to fuck up for 40 years straight.
Why the fuck to people still spout this meme
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>>336164161
>not him but zelda has several mechanics that are used since the first one to skyward sword

and all remain unchanged game to game
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>>336164161
>it was not made to made

what? I don't understand this.
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>>336155791
>in order to provide attendees a complete immersion
Cracks me up every time. Any other large publisher would be eaten alive if they tried to show up at E3 with literally just one game.
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Every new Zelda game that comes out seems to be the fucking same, there are games that handle combat and puzzles better

Zelda games really need to step up and get a new identity, either go full Hack & Slash or be mostly puzzle but that hybrid formula that they have had for years is fucking boring at this point
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shhh

let it die
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>>336165153
Combat system has definitely to be more hack and slashy, but I don't want to see it becoming a beatem-up, keep it mostly 1 vs 1
Puzzles should be not actual puzzles, but just bringing the wonder of exploration in the dungeons and fucking up with how you percieve walls and things like that
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>>336159108
Instead it will be overshadowed by the sheer disinterest and the fact that it will miss the holiday season, meaning that all the parents/casuals who might have bought it for Christmas are now out of the picture.
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>>336148757
there is sure alot of people that dont care for nintendo look at all the replies in this thread.

you guys hate nintendo like a father is disappointed in his son but wants him to do better because he know he can, he's just lazy, you all hate nintendo but you arent indifferent towards them, and there is a thin line etween love and hate.
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>>336165153
agreed.

hate to say it, but dark souls was the best Zelda in ages.
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>>336165465
so, traps?
and yeah, those are still puzzles. puzzles doesn't always mean sliding colored blocks around.

also, riddles would be nice.
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>>336165153
>there are games that handle combat and puzzles better

Can you name some? I'm genuinely curious, I don't know any games that have the same types of environmental puzzles/simple combat mechanics as Zelda, other than Okami.
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Better puzzle solving and exploration than any "modern" Zelda
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>>336151508
We need a Link wojak in preparation for e3
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>>336165153
this

Twilight Princess was identical to Wind Waker, and Skyward Sword was the same as Twilight Princess with the exact same control scheme and battle mechanics.

have you ever even played a zelda game you fuckwit?
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>>336165153
Why do combat and puzzles have to be mutually exclusive?
Why can't the game improve in both aspects?
Make the combat more than "Hold up shield until the enemy is vulnerable" and the puzzles be more than "push this block on that button that needs to be held."...?

Because BOTH need to done, not one or the other. The problem isn't that it's a hybrid, the problem is that the game itself is too simple, removing puzzles or hack n slash only makes the problem worse.
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>>336149991
>implying they care about enough about making games that they'll rather go under than sell the company and salvage what's left.
They're bussinessmen, if they fuck up with the NX that's it, nintendo goes software only.
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>>336165956
plus better characters and environments too
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>>336154594
STOP CENSORING GAMES
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>>336149413
Zelda's popularity has diminished greatly due to Aonuma and Miyamoto.
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>>336166268

Nintendo will never go software only. They will either continue to release consoles on their own are partner with another Japanese company like DENA to release consoles.
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>>336166580

Stop with the bullshit.
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>>336166268
They got 14B in the bank, they can afford more fuckups
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>>336151557
>buying systems for games not yet released
HAHAHA
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what do zelda fans think of hyper light drifter? just found out about it and downloading right now
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>>336150832
>Dark Souls topped Zelda

Everything else you said is pretty accurate but what?
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>>336166586
And nintendo said theyĀ“d never develop for mobile, just you wait and see.

>>336166724
No, they canĀ“t. If the NX doesn't make a profit then that's it.
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>Hey guys, last E3 was a fucking disaster. How should we improve it?
>I've got it! We'll only focus on ONE GAME and not our upcoming console!

Does Nintendo's marketing department not exist or something?
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>>336166913
its not like zelda at all

what made you think that?
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>>336167025
>And nintendo said theyĀ“d never develop for mobile, just you wait and see.
Has nothing to do with anything they. There's no business incentive for going software only. Shit like Amiibos prove that and other companies would agree.
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>>336167246
damn first thing I read was zelda fans would love it
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>>336167025
>No, they canĀ“t. If the NX doesn't make a profit then that's it.
Says who? You?
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>>336167357
he probably means it doesnt fallow the stale Zelda formula of collecting 8 things from dungeons, it probably has the same gameplay mechanics as 2D Zeldas, but with some new additions sprinkled on
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>>336167021
If you can't see the overwhelming similarities or the strong influence TLoZ had on the Souls franchise's inception I can't help you.
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>>336149413
Zelda has been on a decline for quite a while though.
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>>336150885
Then why do people keep shitposting about it?
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>>336167616

Zelda has had a strong influence on a lot of games. That really doesn't mean anything.
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>>336167616

Souls
-Depressing dead shit everywhere
-emphasis on combat
-RPG
-hard inb4 >dark souls >hard

Zelda
-whimsical fairies and shit
-emphasis on puzzles
-not an RPG
-not hard
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>>336154594
>As is the case with any business or industry, when its products become available for free, the revenue stream supporting that industry is threatened
You mean the revenue stream that was OFFICIALLY DISCONFUCKINGTINUED FOR FUCKING DECADES WHEN THE FUCKING GAMES FUCKING WENT FUCKING OUT OF FUCKING PRINT FUCKING EVERY FUCKING TIME A FUCKING NEW FUCKING GENERATION OF FUCKING CONSOLES FUCKING STARTED?!?!

HOLY FUCKING MOTHER OF MOTHERFUCKING FUCK FUCKING READING THIS FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING BULLSHIT MAKES ME FUCKING ENRAGED FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
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>>336168132
>I've never played the original NES LoZ games
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>>336168668
>Two games out of a 20 games series
>Only one of which was an ARPG and with very basic stats
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>>336150885
Well now they will.
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>>336167375
Why would you throw money at a product that doesn't sell? If they don't get third parties on board they're doomed, it'll be the Wii U all over again. To do that the hardware needs to be easy to develop for, have zero shit gimmicks no one cares about, better and faster support for devs (they struggled when they had questions about the hardware). And if nintendo handles themselves like they are doing right now then devs will not go near the NX.

>>336167349
Amiibos are fucking cancer, worse than DLC, the fad will fade.
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>>336168668
Indulge me, what part of my post doesn't apply to Zelda 1 and 2?
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By banning mobile garbage sooner rather then later.
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>>336169075
>-not an RPG
>-not hard
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>>336167616

which souls game has the ability to pull yourself towards certain objects or grapple/swing on certain parts of the environment?

which souls game has you float across large chasms by carrying chickens, or by holding a leaf?

which souls game has all of its health upgrades/abilities hidden away in chests found in optional caves/dungeon rooms, or given as rewards for a variety of different sidequests, instead of just gaining stats/weapons through standard RPG grinding?

which souls game has puzzles where you transition back and forth between parallel worlds with slight differences between them in order to reach new areas?

which souls game has the ability to merge with the wall and move along the wall as a drawing?

I seriously want to know which game people are playing that apparently provides all the same gameplay elements that the Zelda series has... can anyone answer me please?
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>you will soon live in a world where Nintendo drops out of the console business and makes multiplat games

feels good lads
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>>336169142
>Zelda I was just like Zelda II
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>>336169142
How are either of them RPGs? Zelda 2 was a little hard, but Zelda 1 was not, especially relative to other games at the time.
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Ok its time to say some thing about it. this face is not funny. your witty post saying "THIS FANDOM IS BAD LET ME SHOW WITH THIS EPIC IRONIC RANT" is not funny. no body listen to what you have to say. stop
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>>336169413
>oh muh zelda 1 wasnt hard, i beat that with my eyes closed it was so easy
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>>336148757
>>336166268
>>336154950
>>336161145
>NINTENDOOMED
Gee when have I heard that before?
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>>336169427
Follow up: its not funny when you are joking about the ps4,pc,xbone or wii u its still not funny
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>>336169075
All of them aside from the whimsical fairies shit?
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>>336168989
>worse than DLC
Nope.
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Nintendo already showed Zelda last year, what the fuck lmao
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>>336169232
>Which souls has this one gimmick that I cherrypicked?

They're talking about core gameplay you nigger
Also,
>which souls game has all of its health upgrades/abilities hidden away in chests found in optional caves/dungeon rooms, or given as rewards for a variety of different sidequests, instead of just gaining stats/weapons through standard RPG grinding?
Boy you sure are a dumb fuck
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Not gonna read this thread, but you all are reading too much into it.

The game is probably finished right now. All this means is that the NX is getting pushed back. Did you ever think of that?

This is good news for Wii U owners, because Nintendo rescinding the release date SO soon, means they're responding to the backlash.

Which means that the game may yet come out this year on Wii U, with an NX-enhanced release later. I'm looking at a November 21st release.
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>>336169413
>he doesn't know about the second quest
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>>336149413
maybe 20 years ago
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>>336169232
>which souls game has you float across large chasms by carrying crows
Dark Souls 1
>which souls game has all of its health upgrades/abilities hidden away in chests found in optional caves/dungeon rooms,
Dark Souls 3.
>which souls game has puzzles where you transition back and forth between parallel worlds with slight differences between them in order to reach new areas?
Bloodborne
>which souls game has the ability to merge with the wall painting
Dark Souls 1

But seriously, the defining element of Souls games is the sense of exploration you get while adventuring through a massive, mysterious world. Having a guide tell you there's a 90% chance pushing a block into a socket will play a jingle that opens the only door you can progress through detracts from that.
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>>336169293
No.

What you're asking for would be fucking horrible. Nintendo has been responsible for almost all major console hardware innovations since the gaming console crash. Without them, none of Sony's, Microsoft's or Sega's consoles would exist as they do today, period. The directional pad, shoulder buttons, integrated analog stick that actually fucking works, gyroscopes, touchscreen integration etc... you wouldn't have your cherished Dual Shock without Nintendo.

Imagine if instead of innovating, console manufacturers just cloned the NES controller or the Atari joystick generation after generation. That's the kind of reality you're going to get if Nintendo goes out of the hardware business. You can just forget console gaming having a future outside of the same fucking recycled gameplay forever and ever, never evolving.

I don't want that, and neither should you.
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>>336169576
>N64 era being anywhere near comparable to Nintendo's current mess

Sega was once big enough to compete with Nintendo. Then they started going downhill, making stupid decisions over and over again. Now they're a third-rate dev that people barely care about anymore. It happened to Sega and it can happen to Nintendo.
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>>336162593
not to mention the gameplay is exactly the same.

some people think just because something is bright and colorful it's not insipid dreck.
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>>336170218
>Sega and Nintendo were ever comparable
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>>336170017
Souls game exploration is more akin to metroidvanias then Zeldas
A Zeldavania would be very shit
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I'm so conflicted. I want nintendo to die and be immortalized after their terrible performance the past decade, but I'm also still holding out for them to release another SNES because of terrible gaming is ATM.
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>>336170147
but Microsoft has been making great controllers since the 90s
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>>336170147
>Nintendo has been responsible for almost all major console hardware innovations since the gaming console crash.
so what? the buttons on the controller were inevitable, along with analogsticks/joysticks
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>>336168989
You can start laughing like a maniac when Nintendo enables amiibos to work with Nintendo mobile apps. Amiibos are the last tether for consoles, losing that is the sign of the end times
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>>336169293
they're way too stubborn.

especially with the new guy, who looks like a damn yakuza boss. can't imagine he'd go for that type of thing.
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>>336169807
>20+ dollars figurines for a dead console that devalue once used and will be obsolete once the NX comes out.

>>336169576
Except Nintendo really is doomed:
>Launching the NX on march
>Will have to compete with the PS4 and PS4.5, and already stablished consumer base.
>There's been comments about the "unique hardware" of the NX, this either means gimmicky shit or criptyc hardware hard to develop for.
>Wii U is dead
>Only Zelda is multiplat, hence it's gonna get dragged down by the Wii U.
>Only 1 game at E3
Nintendo better thread carefully
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>>336148757
Last year they brought SFZ and SMM, which people seemed to care about, and TFH and YWW (which no-one cared about)
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>>336149991
Thats retarded and obviously false, but thanks to amiibos, its not like they are losing money or anything.
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>>336170608
Great =/= original.

>>336170615
If it was inevitable that other companies would create them then why was it almost always Nitnendo time after time?
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>>336169293
I don't want Nintendo to become a third party publisher. They already censor the fuck out of shit on their own hardware, if they went 3rd party and start publishing like say Square Enix, then we will only get more censored shit.

Nintendo can just stay irrelevant on their handhelds and mobile shit.
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>Mario hasn't been interesting since SMB3
>Zelda's only POP was OOT, Everything else has been carbon copy
>DK hasnt been good since the GBA
>Wario hasnt been good since the GBC
>Pokemon has become stagnant as hell
>Metroid proper hasnt ever compared to castlevania, and prime died with 3.
>Starfox is literally the same story told three times.
>F-zero became Mario kart
>Kirby while still good will forever be the same shlock.
>Mother is over
>Chibi robo is dead
>Custom robo is dead
>Fire emblem is just plain wrong now.

Why am I a nintendo fan again?
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NINTENDO ON THE PS5
IT'S SO GONNA HAPPEN! LOL XD
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>>336148757
That one game will be better than everything else combined tho
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>>336170765
you are mistaken if you believe amiibo support is ever living Nintendo products
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>>336170901
>>DK hasnt been good since the GBA
fuck off. Tropical Freeze is excellent
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>>336170901
smash
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>>336148757
It's OK if Sony does this with bloodborne
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>>336163391
>Started as a mario IP
NOPE
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>>336170976
If it isn't then Nintendo will be a laughing stock.
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>>336170147
All you listed was modifications to controllers, hardly enough to say they're responsible for almost all major console hardware innovations.
And even then,
>What is the Dreamcast controller
>What is the dualshock controller
Every modern controller we have today is some sort of mix between the Dreamcast controller and the Dualshock controller
>Nintendo being the first to have an analog stick that "actually fucking works"
wew. I hope you aren't referring to that N64 analog stick.
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>>336171020
I said DK. not DKC. DKC is utter garbage.
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>>336148757
Nintendo has completely abandoned 2016.
No one could or should save them.
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>>336170998
TheyĀ“re not, Nintendo will sell amiibos 2.0, the ones you have are not gonna work with the NX lol.
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Why do people still defend Nintendo a lot?

>Censor games
>Shit online
>Region locked
>Memes in their games
>Underpowered consoles
>Selling toys (physical DLC)
>Only 1 shit game for E3
>Delaying games because again no games
>Mediocre exclusives like Mario Tenis, Amiibo Festival, etc
>Hookers in their marketing teams

And i can go on and on

I know that PlayStation and Xbox are shit too but Nintendo isn't any better at all.
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>>336170765
>Virtual Boy crashed and burned
>Ultra 64 to use cartridges
>Popular franchises like Final Fantasy and Mega Man to be made exclusively for Sony consoles
>Gimmicky, cryptic hardware with bizarre alien controller that no one is going to figure out how to or want to use
>Only Zelda is on at least a two-year delay
Yep, Nintendo certainly is doomed. Oh wait, they fucking weren't then and they fucking aren't now.
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>>336154594
Jesus...
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>>336169576
>This shit again

All those claims came at a very different time. I would agree with you that they are not necessarily doomed, but their choices as of the last few years have all been horrible. Terrible games, terrible systems, and the way they treated the WiiU. The 3DS might still be strong, but things dont look good, specially with this shit E3 in the horizon, and last years which was pathetic.
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>>336164474
>Video game: Pick up controller, press buttons, fight things, complete game, credits roll
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>>336170901

>f-zero became mario kart

Oh come on, f-zero is probably the purest franchise nintendo has. It likely would get turned to shit if they were to make another one in the present, though.
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>>336162593
Oh, you seem to be on the wrong board. We are talking about video games, not movies, comics or literature. The story is not important in the game, therefore, just the story being different is not enough to excuse the entire game being exactly the same in all other regards.

Nintendo: same story every time, extremely different gameplay

Everyone else: same gameplay every time, different story.

Sorry for your confusion.
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>>336170998
*leaving

>>336171230
I believe this because selling them like that is too much cash waiting to be grabbed
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>>336170901
>>Mario hasn't been interesting since SMB3
u w0t m8?
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>>336171264
>I know that PlayStation and Xbox are shit too but Nintendo isn't any better at all.
This here is the problem now, isn't it? where are you supposed to get your gaming fix if everyone is terrible?
pick your poison I guess
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>>336164474
Dark Souls: keep dying until you dont die

Metal Gear: Sneak around, fight some bosses

Sonic: Go right, go fast, collect rings

This is fun
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>>336158103
>Sony's games are in such high demand that they make multiple iteration on the same console
>All nintendo games over 20 year period

You lost the game
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>>336148757
So, people do realize that this is just saying "the only thing we'll have AT E3 is Zelda," not, "the only thing we'll be showing in June is Zelda," right?

Nintendo's probably still going to have their own Direct presentation around E3 where they'll likely show a bunch of new info and launch shit for the NX, it just won't be at E3 cause none of it is ready yet.
Nintendo's been giving E3 the finger for the past like 3 years or something. Surely people get this by now?
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>>336171602
>Metal Gear
>Fight some bosses
Not in V
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>>336149712
I think squid paint was the most original shit they've done in a while. but that one game doesn't make the Wii U worth buying, not by a long shot.
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>>336171474
Nintendo's idea of "different gameplay" is throwing garbage into an otherwise decent design, then simplifying that even further until every ounce of enjoyment has been removed. Star Fox Zero and later Paper Marios are awful.
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>>336171739
Haven't played 5.

Ok how about...

Resident evil: Shoot monsters, save the world?
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>>336170765
>20+ dollars figurines
where do you buy your amiibos? i can get
one for $12
one with a new game for $60
three for $30
a 3 pack of cards for $10

what are you on bruh
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>>336171194
>>What is the dualshock controller
A PSX controller (which was just the SNES controller with two extra buttons and handlebars) with the N64 stick pasted on it twice. Whoop-de-fuck.
>>336171194
>>What is the Dreamcast controller
A horrible piece of shit that did nothing good or original (N64 did the on-controller add-on thing first).
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>>336170901
Mario has had fucking great titles after SMB 3. Spin-offs and platformers.

Ocarina of Time was not the last good Zelda game. Sure they follow an overworld to dungeon to overworld formula, but they have an extremely large amount of variation between them. You can't tell me with a straight face that Link Between Worlds and Skyward Sword are too similar.

Donkey Kong has had some above average games.

While I agree with many of your points, you're definitely a nostalgiafag.
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>>336171713
They already said they aren't gonna talk about NX at E3

And even if they reveal few new games, most of them will be for 3DS

Wii U is dead, Tim.
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>>336154594
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>>336149712
They make a lot of new IPs. Their problem is that if it's not made by EAD they treat it like a red headed stepchild and make sure it never gets proper acknowledgement. Even Xenoblade was a freak case where they tried to bury it but it managed to do well enough to escape their basement.
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>>336171509
*cough*cought*pcmustardrace*cough*
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>>336171912
>Wii U is dead, Tim.

It's Jim dude. James T. Kirk. Come on.
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>>336165956
But the devs are pieces of shit
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>>336171304
>Virtual Boy crashed and burned
Not a main console, pulled out in time.

>Ultra 64 to use cartridges
ThereĀ“s no new media coming out, bluray is here to stay.

>Popular franchises like Final Fantasy and
Mega Man to be made exclusively for Sony consoles
Third party companies, nintendo has none now
.
>Gimmicky, cryptic hardware with bizarre alien controller that no one is going to figure out how to or want to use.
How many games make full use of the Wii U gamepad in unique and original way? Besides, the important thing here is the hardware of the console itself, the Wii U was underpowered and hard to develop for, devs were turned off and it wasnĀ“t worth their while.

>Only Zelda is on at least a two-year delay

Well, every main nintendo console had their exclusive Zelda, at least two. Sharing a delayed Zelda doesnĀ“t turn on your alarm lights on?
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>>336171304
Didnt they actually make a slight profit out of the VB?
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>>336154594
Welp, I'm convinced.
Fuck you, jk.
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>>336171878
Aren't people grabing them as soon as they are in stock and selling them at inflated prices?
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>>336172149
>bluray is here to stay.
>cassete tape is here to stay
THATS HOW YOU SOUND
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>>336171264
>Censor games
That's NoA, not Nintendo itself's fault.
>Shit online
I thought Splatoon's online was good? And I know their Monster Hunter online multiplayer stuff's pretty responsive. And free.
>Region locked
Yeah, that's kinda stupid nowadays.
>Memes in their games
Everyone does this.
>Underpowered consoles
Nintendo's always been about making the most out of their limited power though. That's why Nintendo games have a lot more varied styles (i.e. Windwaker).
>Selling toys (physical DLC)
You get a Toy + DLC centered around the character in some way + all future DLC from that toy. Seems like a pretty good thing for children and manchildren.
>Only 1 shit game for E3
There's still most likely going to be a full direct with new shit, especially some Sun/Moon news.
>Delaying games because again no games
What?
>Mediocre exclusives like Mario Tenis, Amiibo Festival, etc
Every console has shit exclusives. Wii U also got Bayonetta 2 and Splatoon as exclusives and those were great.
>Hookers in their marketing teams
Women that know how to get attention. Makes sense for marketing.
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>>336171885
>dualshock stick being anything remotely like the N64 stick
WEW
>Dreamcast controller doing nothing original
How about pressure sensitive shoulder buttons and the fucking VMU. The DC controller is one of the most original controllers out there.
So really, all nintendo has ever done was make a certain type of D-Pad (which nobody else uses) and put 4 buttons together. If this kind of shit impresses you then the stuff I listed above should blow your mind right?
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>>336172381
Who the fuck said cassettes were here to stay? Their quality was shit and they deteriorated really quickly.
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>>336172372
not anymore. they fixed their distributing issue. the only one i want and cant find is olimar
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>>336171474
>extremely different gameplay
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>>336172381
Well, i don't see games over 500GB anytime soon so, yeah, blu ray is here for a long time.
>>
this thread is hilarious
nintentoddlers sperging out is prime entertainment
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>>336171912
Shit comes out next March.
That's under a year from now.
I'm pretty sure they're going to say something about it during their Direct, it just won't be at E3.
And the Wii U's lineup is currently pretty empty. I'm sure they're gonna put up some NX crossplat stuff before it comes out and at least one Wii U swansong title.
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Wii U fag here! I bought the thing on launch and have 90% of the whole library.

It's. Not. Worth. It.

Go buy an Oculus Rift. It will make you feel like a kid again.
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If Nintendo starts making absurd ammounts of money with mobile would they stop making home consoles?
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>>336172149
>Well, every main nintendo console had their exclusive Zelda, at least two. Sharing a delayed Zelda doesnĀ“t turn on your alarm lights on?
If the NX is anything like the Wii on a commercial front then Nintendo definitely doesn't have anything to worry about.
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>>336153024
I care too. but only if it's good.
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>>336172459
>That's NoA, not Nintendo itself's fault.

No, even Nintendo Japan censored their games, look at #FE

>I thought Splatoon's online was good? And I know their Monster Hunter online multiplayer stuff's pretty responsive. And free.

Well, there aren't many games that use Wii U online and i know several people who has problems playing Smash (inb4 get good internet), at least it's free

>Everyone does this.

I can't remember memes in any recent Sony or Xbox game

>Nintendo's always been about making the most out of their limited power though. That's why Nintendo games have a lot more varied styles (i.e. Windwaker).

Actually Gamecube was pretty powerful, more than PS2
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>>336148757
>people actually thought NX was going to be at E3 this year.

You're all fucking retarded.
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>>336172680
Go play your faggot ass Uncharted.
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>>336148757

assassinate miyamoto, Aounuma and their protege
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>>336172691
Only thing this post is missing is "crying feels man with Mario hat"
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>>336172691
>buying shovelware
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>>336172789
hey, i'm a pc fag, i'm just lurkin while playing torchlight
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>>336172715
How? The PS4 has the market, with the PS4.5 thereĀ“s no need for a new generation in a long time.
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>>336172459
>Nintendo's always been about making the most out of their limited power though
Every single Nintendo console prior to the Wii was capable of competing in terms of power.
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>>336154594
it's as illegal as jaywalking
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>>336164474
You forget the most important in pokemon new pokegirls porn
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>>336164894
Sony shows up to E3 with zero games each year and they do just fine anon
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>>336171474
>story doesn't matter in video games
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>>336173178
Third party games are announced at the ass for PlayStation at every E3.
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>>336171474
jesus christ anon, stop
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>>336171505
still 20 years ago.

wow, such innovation!
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>>336171474
S-s-st-story... Doesn't matter?

Are you OUTTA YOUR FUCKING MIND?!
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>>336172506
literally every single media format was assumed to be the pinnacle. not satisfied with vcr? okay
>radio is here to stay
>records are here to stay
>8-tracks are here to stay
>magnetic tapes are here to stay
>dvds are here to stay
>telivision programming is here to stay
>corded phones are here to stay
kill yourself
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>>336173430
It still means he is wrong. SMS was interesting too, by the way. They didnt fuck up a 3d mario game until galaxy.
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>>336154594
At least they're retards that stand by their word.
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>>336170901
>F-zero became Mario kart
F-Zero fucking died. It didnt turn into anything, except ashes.
>>
Why would Nintendo show something at E3 when they can have an entire Nintendo Direct dedicated to the NX?
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>>336171264
>>Censor games
How's that North American release of DOAX3 going?
>>Shit online
Because people obviously play Nintendo games for non-local multiplayer
>>Memes in their games
The competition's flagship franchises are practically memes in and of themselves at this point.
>>Underpowered consoles
You mean like the SNES with its slow CPU, the N64 with its cartridges and the GCN with its mini discs? Totally fucking ruined those consoles and they were never able to make great games that people worldwide loved the fuck out of.
>>Only 1 shit game for E3
"That game that hasn't been completed and released in any way, shape or form? I totally played it and know exactly what it's like!"
>>Delaying games because again no games
I can't wait to play The Last Guardian on my Bloodborne machine!
>>Mediocre exclusives like Mario Tenis, Amiibo Festival, etc
Nintendo consoles are the only ones that have shovelware on them.
>>Hookers in their marketing teams
At least no one related to Nintendo can be connected to KILLING MICHAEL JACKSON.
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>>336173578
im not the idiot who said bluerays are here to stay, you dumbass. Anyone who thinks a specific format is here to stay is a retard.
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>>336157173
Who's Sakamoto and what has he done wrong?
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Blu-Ray actually ISN'T here to stay.

Digital is going to take down Blu-Ray entirely.
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>>336166913
not like zelda, but it's fun
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>>336173178
But they get third party deals. Doesn't matter if they aren't exclusive, people are going to remember it was at their conference and no one else's. Fuck, last year they got praise for showing up with a goddamned kickstarter. They could announce a game that's not even on Sony consoles and still get praise for it as long as the Sony logo is in the back when it happens.
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>>336166913
It's awesome. But it's not very similar to Zelda.
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>>336173749
the funny thing is you typed all that out but didn't disprove any of the points
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>>336172759
They're in serious fucking trouble at the moment. I was at least expecting some games
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>say anything eve slightly "not" positive about Nintendo
>"RRRRRREEEE STOP SHITPOSTING NINTENDO IS BEST RRRREEEE"

This board needs to be removed. Permanently.
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>>336171474
>extremely different gameplay
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>>336172759
It's not that far-fetched, considering how the one game they're showing off will be on the damn console.
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