Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 3 > Demons Souls > Bloodborne > Scholar of the First Sin > Dark Souls 2 Vanilla
>>336145728
Superior opinion coming through:
DS3 > SOTFS = BB > DS2 = DS1 > DeS
>>336146243
>SOTFS that high
It was an improvement over vanilla yes, but it is still a flawed game with 70% of the game being pure average garbage and poorly polished gameplay
>>336145728
DS3=DS1>SOTFS>>DS2>BB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DES
BB > DS1 > DS3 > DeS > SOTFS > DS2
>>336146404
I can understand BB not being your favorite but the fact that you rate both BB and DeS worse than DS2 shows you're a PCuck
SOTFS > DS3 > DS1 > DeS > BB
BB was objectively terrible and only Sonydrones will disagree since they dont know shit about vidya.
>>336146871
I can understand BB being your favorite but the fact that you rate both BB so high shows you're a Sonydrone
>>336145728
Go shitpost somewhere else, DaS babby.
>>336145728
This, except BB = DeS
>>336147341
>scholar of the first meme
>good
>splitting up dlc for rankings
kek
why not split every patch number
>>336147502
>Only game out of the DS-Series that actively looked at the game mechanics and improved every single one of them
>I DUN LIKE IT BCUZ MUH MEMES
Okay, Sonny.
no wonder this place hates sony friends so much, its 90% pcucks...
anyways, unbiased objective order:
BB > DeS > SotFS > DaS3 > DaS
say what you want about das2, but atleast it was a finished product, and not some rushed DeS clone...
>>336147673
>getting triggered this easily
Why don't you go play some Bloodborne? Oh wait.
I don't feel like DeS has aged well at all and I feel that me liking it is purely nostalgia. That being said I really enjoyed BB and ds2 did have some quality of life improvements I enjoyed. over souls 1 and DeS.
Haven't played ds3 yet.
DaS1>BB>DaS3>DeS>SoftS>DaS2i think i got the really shitty ending in BB tho.
>>336145728
DaS=Des>Ds2(co-op)>Ds3>BB
>>336147812
The only reason people hate sonyggers is because they literally shove it in your face constantly, and falseflag all the time. It's like any obnoxious fangroup really
We can all agree that DS3 is not the best in the series, but not the worst?
I'm currently playing through DaS1 on PC, previously beat it on ps3, I tried to play DS2 and it barely gripped me past the tutorial, but DS3 boss and armor design looks so pretty I want to get back into it, but I'm not sure I can run it with a GTX 650, why is DS2 rated so poorly?
>>336147812
>anything better than demons souls, especially from a sonyfag
no, that's the most blatantly obvious troll i've seen this month so far.
>>336145728
BB=DS>DS3>DES>DAS2
>>336147812
DS2 had every area and boss feeling unfinished, you just noticed it much clearer in 1 because every area was petty good and then suddenly Izalith.
You suck by the way
>>336147673
>Improved
In what ways? Like the convoluted shitty UI? The hub? The tons of stats? The bosses with multiple ennemies "so hard lmao" instead of trying to do good fights?
>bearer seek seek lest
>improvement
I mean it's an ok game but to say it improved in EVERY SINGLE WAY is a lie.
>>336148134
i have a 650, roll your drivers back to 314.22 and it's playable, you wont get 60fps thats for sure but it wont be low enough to kick you offline immediately as long as you have enough RAM and your CPU isnt utter dogshit. put all graphics settings low as fuck.
DS1=BB>Des>DS3>that other game
>>336148150
[including all dlc]
BB == DaS1 > DaS3 > DeS > Scholar >>>>>> DaS2
demons souls will always be best in series now that souls is done, simply because of item burden and world tendency. only a casual would hate either of those things.
>>336146402
>70% of the game being pure average garbage and poorly polished gameplay
>gameplay is actually the exact same shit it was in DaS
Soulsfags are the fucking worst.
SOFS is dark souls 2 + the 3 dlc? or is there something more?
>>336147673
more like
>Only game out of the DS-Series that actively looked at the game mechanics and made every single one of them worse
DaS3 = BB > DaS > DeS >>> DaS2
>>336148526
some tweaks to gameplay and different enemy placement
>people putting DaS so high
It's really not that great
>>336145728
Was Karla's outfit in games other than DS3? The clothing that red anime phantom is wearing looks identical
DaS1 > DeS >Nioh> DaS2 SotFS > DaS3
> DaS2 > Bloodborne
But it's like my opinion, man
>>336148526
It's Dark Souls 2 + DLC + all the changes they made (different enemies/items locations)
>>336148629
memers gotta have their meme games
>>336145728
Bloodborne and Demon's Souls come out on top for me now because Dark Souls 3 blatant fan service and referential nature has made me lose interest in the world to be honest.
At least Demon's Souls and Bloodborne are coherent.
>>336148748
this
>>336148629
DLC was cool as fuck imo
>>336148706
I mean so high in relation to other games in the series. It's a good game but most of the games are better than it
>''people'' putting rehash souls 2 and 3 anywhere but last
I guess the honeymoon period isn't over for some yet
>>336148269
>roll your drivers back to 314.22
I rather not even try to update them, the only times I did were to fix some strange textures in GTAV and The Witcher (Nvidia stuff like PhysX or whatever?) so rolling back sounds like it might fuck me in other games, what does that accomplish anyway?
There was a time where trying to upgrade drivers would give me errors and not even clean install would work (oh, but it did leave me without drivers, so a generic card until I fixed it, somehow), that was just stressful and I have a strong fear of fucking it up again
SOTFS=DaS3>BB>DaS1=DeS>DaS2
DaS3 will be king once the DLC is out.
Lords of the Fallen > DS2 Vanilla > DS2 Scholars > DeS > DS1 > Bloodborne > DS3
>>336148621
>>336148621
i'm reading on steam that on SOTFS the engine is 64bits and was 32 bits on the original ds2 release? o_O am i reading that wrong?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/335300/
>his is the enhanced 64-bit version, with updated graphics and added features. If you are looking for the 32-bit version bundle (with the original DARK SOULS™ II and DLC)
>>336148659
Yes, Karla is a Yuria the Witch knockoff. Just like a lot of other things in DaS3
>>336148509
>gameplay is the exact same it was in DaS
I like DaS2 Scholar of the First Shill, but no, that's not true at all.
>>336147812
Holy shit are you me?
>>336148887
well, before i rolled the drivers back i was literally getting 1 frame per second at the main menu. after, i could play the game.nvidia new drivers fuck over old cards
DeS>DaS>King's Field 4>KF2>>DaS3>KF3>KF>BB=DaS2
>>336149229
>DeS first
Your opinion is irrelevant
>>336149229
But King's Field is trash, anon
>>336149318
shut the fuck up, demons souls is unarguably best in series you absolute casual.
>>336149031
also Beatrice
>>336149229
>It's another one of those "The game is exclusive and I can't pirate it so it's shit" posts
DaS>DeS>DaS3>DaS2
Haven't played Bloodborne and Dark Souls 2 is garbage SOTFS or vanilla.
>>336145728
i am ok with this
>>336149379
KF2 is great
>>336148530
THIS NIGGA GETS IT
>>336149447
But DaS II is easily pirated
>>336149318
assmad jelly pcuck detected
>>336149390
Demons Souls threads were the best
>>336148629
Context motherfucker. Pacman ain't so great as well if you look at it in retrospective.
DaS1 > BB > DaS3 = SotFS > DeS > DaS2
if you think otherwise you're literally retarded
>>336149401
Beatrice has her own look
>>336148842
There is not a single thing DaS1 does better than 3 aside from having a more interconnected "spiderweb"-like world as opposed to DaS3's world that takes the form of a treebranch, but that is not enough to make a game superior.
DaS3 has
>better bosses with larger movesets
>more agressive regular mooks that have a bit more to them than being just backstab pillows
>larger levels that are more interconnected than individual DaS1 areas
>better weapons with better post-release balance
>more functional covenants despite blade of darkmoon/sentinels being the same aside from Host having a chance to summon both when invaded
>>336149571
yes, its really sad that the series went mainstream and now most people hate demons souls and call it garbage, some even say worst in the entire series. it's still the game i had the most fun with.
>>336148530
yo don't copy my objectively correct list.
>>336149509
Only played the one on the PS2 and it made me want to deep throat a 12 gauge
Dumb question
why does my PC look like a Hollow? Is it because I used an ember?
>>336149390
>it's another "it's the first one I played so it's the best" episode
Gameplay wise every other souls game is a vast improvement to DeS. Get those nostalgia goggles off.
BB > DaS3 > DaS1 > DaS2 = DeS
DaS3 = DaS = DeS = BB >> DaS2
>>336149835
ah yes, the classic meme opinion, complete with a meme image to round off the meme nicely
>>336149817
if you told the turtle guy Yoel or whatever to "Draw Out True Strength"he is hollowing the shit out of you, then eventually dies, having served his purpose, and someone else will come take his place.
>>336148748
this desu
DeS is not as good as Dark Souls as far as gameplay goes, Dark Souls is really just an improved Demon's Souls, although most endgame areas feel very unfinished, but i lost all interest in the Dark Souls universe because of Dark Souls 3. So the setting of Demon's Souls combined with the good gameplay, and good areas, even though they're not as good as Dark Souls gameplay overshadows Dark Souls in my opinion.
Same for Bloodborne although i burnt out of Bloodborne very quick because it's just dark, and dark, and dark, at least in the Demon's Souls universe there's some beauty every now and then, but Bloodborne really was exhaustingly dark in my opinion. After a while i just couldn't stand seeing all the bloody, tortured, horror environments anymore
tfw noones going to read this
>>336149707
That is because it's incredibly outdated compared to previous games and it's only merit is having much better atmosphere, muhlore and environments than Dark Souls. Mechanically, it's a lot weaker.
>>336149707
I miss those days anon...
>>336145728
subjectively you are correct.
I still think Bloodborne is my favorite of the series though, then Demons, then Dark 1, then Dark 3, and fuck Dark 2, that game can go eat a dick.
>>336149936
well, shit. Is there any way to reverse it? It's not terrible but still
>>336149971
>previous games
Fuck I had a brain fart and meant to say "subsequent".
>>336149826
>gameplay wise
no, not a single other game has ITEM burden or world tendency. Bloodborne was also the easiest souls game for me, the only boss that killed me across the entire game, DLC, and all chalice content up to fucking Queen Yharnam wasOrphan of Koswhereas i still get wrecked by false king allant on subsequent playthroughs to this day.
sorry pal, but as a fellow sonyfag i don't really like bloodborne at all. Demon's is best.
>>336150051
I hope you like grinding out fucktons of souls, anon
>>336149993
this was legit one of my greatest fears running around in the hub
>>336150051give the fire keeper soul from the very top of firelink shrine to the fire keeper and she will reverse it.
this breaks two different endings
>>336150121
>item burden
>world tendency
>good things
>>336149826
not them but DeS was the most consistent in quality throughout and I liked that weapon choice actually mattered for different areas. Exploiting weaknesses actually felt important. As the games went on that factor quickly became diluted.
I also liked DeS bosses the most in the series. Had the most variety.
>>336150137
Well shit, I should have guessed
>>336150237>this breaks two different endings
fuck me. I guess I can live with being spooky
>>336147341
You have put SOTFS the first, who doesn't not shit about vidya again?
>>336150051
3 ways:
Purging Stones
Firekeeper can cure you after you give her a specific Soul
A Ring can make you appear human even if hollowed
>>336145728
>SotFS better than Vanilla
It only has graphics, and gedosato still looks prettier than SotFS.
SotfS has retarded enemy placement, casualized Belltowers/Undead Crypt/Amana and gets you banned for using any kind of side mods/programms.
It's a shit, A SHIT.
>>336150121
>Bloodborne was also the easiest souls game for me
So Demon Souls ,the first souls game you played was the hardest.
And Bloodborne, the last souls game you played was the easiest.
And you also played DaS and DaS2 in-between them.
Can you think of a possible reason for this predicament?
>>336150245
yes, they were great things that made the game unique. god forbid you have to actually plan what items you are going to bring to an area and not be able to shove them into your fucking bag of holding.
Anyone who hates either of those mechanics is just a casual.
>>336150171
Can you actually kill the npcs by falling on them?
>Give Blood Borne a try
>Not only do I get capped on health potions Estus style, but I STILL have to go out of my way and grind them Grass style
>No matter what weapon or build, gameplay was always centered around pokes and roll dodging. Literally everything felt like a dex build to me.
>Because the moon phase is shared between zones, all the colors are largely the same. All the zones just felt samey save for Cainhurst castle.
>Never really found any secrets or illusionary walls to speak of beyond glaringly obvious stuff. I don't know maybe I just missed it
>The super cool Chalice dungeons that everyone was excited for were total shit. You could never be summoned for them and they all felt the same despite supposedly being 'random'
>Yet, people tell me I never played it if I have anything negative to say about them.
Demons > DS1 > DS3 > DS2 > BB
>>336150394
>n-no, c-c-c-casuals!!!
fuck off. it was nothing but pointless, awkward tedium
>>336150363
>Vanilla better than SotFS
>SotfS has retarded enemy placement
>using any kind of side mods/programms
As usual PCucks have the most terrible opinions.
>>336149835
>DaS3
What exactly did people see in this game? It wasn't bad, it was a fine game, but it felt so soulless ironically enough. Nothing from the game sticks with me, it's not like DeS or DaS to me, just zero emotional attachment. The lore is hardly anything to write home about, but it's certainly not as offensive as the lore of DaS2. The gameplay was alright, but the levels and boss fights for the most part were kinda forgettable. I made my way through the game with my friend next to me, took me sixty hours, and I still have difficulty remembering a lot of it.
>>336145728
Nice, just make the same thread again with the same topic.
>>336137628
Kill yourselves
>>336150438
in DeS it's not about killing them, it's that a single hit can aggro them to you
>>336150370
the last souls game i played was dark souls 3, which i am still currently playing, and bloodborne is still easier.
when i go back to replay demons souls like i do multiple times a year, it's harder than bloodborne. so no, the fact that i have beaten all king's field and souls games, and bloodborne has nothing to do with it. it's how the game is designed, it's the fact that BB dashing has higher iframes than anything else in the series except for ADP-stackers in DkS2. it's the fact that blood vials are faster to use with the smallest recovery window out of any other game in the series. the game itself is just easy at its core.
>>336149182
I played for a bit and I got 15-30 on low, someone told me it's unoptimized so I thought I would wait and see if they release a patch, if not I'll try bringing the resolution down, even though I'm not that invested in the series, I feel it might be a pity to miss out on 3, just stable 30 would be alright for mePlease, don't redpill me on how greedy companies are, it will only go downhill from here right?
>>336150594
>tedium
keep digging that grave, casual. we used to permaban your kind around here until moot got soft.
>>336150603
You don't seem to invested so i think hardly any argument will convince you otherwise. You described how i feel about Zelda and sport games. No argument will change that.
>>336149967
I read it buddy. And I agree. One thing I've been enjoying in DaS3 is seeing the Bloodborne engine be used for something not gothic horror. But the amount of references have gotten to me. I love this series but the amount of call backs is starting to frustrate me. I wanted something at least a little new. I figured gameplay would be more or less the same so I was looking for a new world and story to dissect. I'm a little disappointed on that end but overall I still like it.
dark souls 3 pvp is the best
>>336148509
>gameplay is actually the exact same shit it was in DaS
what do you think you are proving my blatantly lying
we all know this isn't fucking true
>>336150767
>unironically calling people casuals
>unironically pulling the oldfag card
don't you have some Giantdad videos to go jerk off to?
Objectively:
DaS3 > DaS1 > BB > SOTFS > DeS > DaS2
>>336151025
>demons souls fag jerking off to giantdad videos
sorry pal, demons souls was before you epic memesters showed up. Umbasa.
>>336150924
>editing solaire's sun to be angry
nice touch
So, it's archdragon peak completely optional? I mean, is it at least hinted somewhere that I must do the path of the dragon gesture in that godforbidden place? I mean, I understand that you find the chest stone and everything, but what if I did oceiros after the dungeons (like everyone who doesn't kill emma)?
I mean, I understand that it must be a secret and all that jazz, but the only thing I managed to find about gestures is that the maiden responds to you. Who thought an entire zone hidden behind a gesture, that's itself hidden behind a boss, was a good idea?
>>336151037
I can agree to this
>>336151037
Do people actually think this?
>>336151169
>throwing the bow over your shoulder like that
way to ruin the string
>>336150648
I once accidentally fell on somebody in the nexus but didn't aggro him even though I took three quarters of his health off
>>336150923
Yeah gameplay wise i totally enjoyed Dark Souls 3, and i think it's better than the other games in that department. But with all those characters that are just 1:1 copys of characters from Demon's Souls and Dark Souls, it felt so shallow. And then when i picked up the fucking Storm Ruler i couldn't help but roll my eyes.
>>336149916
>well-done atmospheric pixel art is just a meme
>meanwhile these are acceptable and only prove how much superior DeS community is
>>336149993 >>336149707 >>336149390
and they say this isn't a case of rose-tinted glasses
Dark Souls 1 > Bloodborne > Demon Souls > Dark Souls 2 SoTFS > Dark Souls 3 >>>>> Dark Souls 2 Vanilla
DaS1 > DaS3 = Bloodborne > SOTFS > DeS >DaS2
>>336150394
Item burden was fine. I agree that having equipment management is better, and taking only a certain amount of things before embarking on an adventure makes more sense than just always carrying around everything. Although maybe I'd tweak a certait amount of thing's about it.
World Tendency, despite being a decent idea on paper, did not make a whole lot of sense and forced you to commit rather retarded actions like intentionally killing yourself.
>>336150595
>SotfS did not have retarded enemy placement
Rider-less executioner chariot in Drangleic Castle says hello.
Main problem with SotFS enemy placement is that it's a lot more homogenized than the main game and you face a lot of enemies out of their regular environment, making areas feel less unique when they don't have mob types exclusive to those areas and those areas only. The only good thing that came out of "enhanced" enemy placment is Pursuer actually pursuing you.
And what they've done to Amana is just too sad to describe with words. Absolutely castrated.
>>336151254
What's wrong with it?
>>336147673
If you put sprinkles on top of a pile of shit, it's still a pile of shit.
>>336145728
DS1, DS3, DS0, BB.
>>336151460
Demon's Souls is also a meme, not surprised there's so many meme pictures depicting it
>>336150812
It's unfortunate, I know it's a good game, but I just couldn't really get into it like I did Dark Souls and Demon's. Perhaps I'm burned out on the Souls games, or maybe it's because of my recent, newfound hatred towards From and especially Bandai Namco.
>>336151448
With Bloodborne everything felt nice and fresh with the characters and atmosphere so that may have spoiled me a little. Still the amount of copied characters in DaS3 honestly hurts my head.
>>336150121
>only died to orphan
This is just a straight up lie and it's funny, I got past the dragons at the end of demons souls on my second attempt and beat Allant on my first. The only boss that really gave me trouble was man eaters and one of the times I fought them they actually glitches out and I had to save and quit. One of them somehow got stuck underneath the bridge and couldn't get back up, it bothered me that a glitch like that actually made it into the game.
>>336150924
>muh first souls game release
>>336151130
It was angry in the original comic, which is also shit, don't even dare look it up.
>>336151639
Somehow you put dark souls 3 over dark souls, BB and DeS and on top of that SOFTS over DeS. I guess it was a typo or something.
Never played DeS but I agree with OP
Ds1>Ds3>BB=SOTFS> Ds2 Van.
>>336151875
>someone is better than me at a video game, it's clearly a lie
Pathetic. note that i never said i didn't get hit, i said i didn't DIE.
>>336151898
?
>don't even dare look it up
you understimate my power
>>336151873
They ruined Andre in 3, idk wtf they were thinking.
BB = DS > DS 3 > DES >>>>>>>> DS2
It's hard to fault DES since it was their first stab at this formula though. None are bad by any means (besides DS2 shit was awful)
>>336149647
Most of the bosses have practically unavoidable attacks and combos that come out ridiculously fast, this means that for your first fight you always have to play passively and memorize all their moves, while every single boss in DaS1 could be dodged on reaction, and if you're using anything bigger than a longsword it's literally impossible to hit them without trading damage, with the boss always winning of course, unless you spend 5 minutes just spamming infinite stamina rolls until he does that one slow, punishable attack and back to rolling. What does that remind me of?
Most designs are copypasted form the other games, mainly bloodborne, not a single new interesting enemy in the entire game, and they're still easy as fuck to trivialize with either straight sword r1 spam or backstabs.
Too bad there bonfires every 2 feet and teleporting right from the start so there's never any sense of exploration or danger, after the first few levels I could literally predict when I was going find the next bonfire 90% of the time. You'd think since they've given up on making a coherent interconnected world, that at least the levels themselves would be better.
Lmao, most weapon movesets are straight up lifted from DaS, with the few new ones being total shit, except in this one the slow DaS1 moveset that all heavy weapons have (except the farron memesword, that one seems to suddenly weight as much as a straight sword when doing the L1 attack, great animation C team) doesn't work due to poise not existing, and enemies are so fast that they can literally hit you in between your R1 attacks. So now there's like 3 optimal weapons out of 200.
Blue Sentinels and Darkmoons are useless because there's no sin system, I can forgive the 1st game in the series to have covenants for them to not be perfect, but not the fucking 4th one.
>>336148509
>DS2 gameplay is the same as DS1 gameplay
Here's a (You), kiddo. You earned it.
>>336151873
I thought Bloodborne did a rather poor job at handling NPCs to be honest.
>>336152219
I'm not sure how exactly they ruined Andre when he does fuckall in the whole game.
>>336152165
Sorry, I just don't believe you especially when you say that Allant still kills you. The only way you got through the chalices up to Yharnam without dying is if you looked up the strategies beforehand.
DaS3 > DeS > DaS1 > Bloodborne > DaS2
Everything about DaS2 felt like it was some weird Chinese rip off game.
Webm not related, just wanted to post it. But it does show how awful the game looked
>>336152264
>Most of the bosses have practically unavoidable attacks
way to invalidate your whole post
DeS>DS3>BB>DS1>SOTFS>DS2
>>336148984
>o_O
>>336152264
Crystal Sage is the best designed boss in the entire series
Yes, i know he's easy, but the way you can run over the crystals to make less copies appear, and how you can tell them apart by the color of their spells, it was just well designed. Basically Pin Wheel/Fools Idol concept in good.
I know people will probably give me shit for saying this
>>336145728
DaS1 = Bloodborne > DaS3 > DeS > DaS2
>>336152331
That's fair I suppose. There weren't a lot of them and for the most part they didn't do a whole lot. I just liked them and the way they existed in the world. Each NPC felt like they had their own shit going on. Namely Eileen and Alfred.
>>336152331
No shit, it did a god awful job, even with the crow waifu. Niggas didn't even try.
>>336152386
again, you seem to have a real problem believing someone beat ONE video game only dying once to one boss.
i just used an easy, retarded build: quality ludwig's, cainhurst armor, with enough arcane to use old hunter's bone.
>>336152373
By having him in there in the first place, but that applies to all NPCs that are just copies of NPCs from previous games.
Literally giving the Fire Keeper almost the same exact lines as Maiden In Black? Having Siegward have the EXACT SAME PERSONALITY as Siegmeyer?
I mean come on Miyazaki, what the fuck?
>>336152110
Nah, you just have bad taste.
DaS>DaS3>BB>DeS>SotFS>Das2
>>336152373
Exactly, they brought back a great NPC from 1 and gave no reason for him being there except obvious fan service and not wanting to create a new blacksmith. If they were going to be so lazy about it i would've rather they used Leningrad or whatever so I could at least say "ok I don't give a fuck about this guy anyway" but they chose to use Andre, one of the most memorable npcs and the franchise, and do nothing with him.
>>336152794that's not andre, it's an illusion.
>>336152753
Here, a (you)
On the house
Probably ds3=BB then ds1 then ds2
I have never played demon souls since no ps3, so no rating
>>336152856
Doesn't make it any better
>>336151460
We had comics for early Dark Souls as well.
It wasn't until it went mainstream that the community stopped being a tight nit little group.
>>336145728
>includes sotfs
>not ptde
DeS>DaS>DaS2>DaS3>BB
>>336152794
>one of the most memorable NPCs
I won't deny that his being there was horribly done and just shitty blatant fan service, but in what way is he "one of the most memorable NPCs?" The only thing really memorable about him is that fucking INFURIATING banging.
DaS>BB>DeS>DaS3>DaS2
BB is my number one, personally, because of the setting and aesthetic. Really surprised me, since I'm more of a Sword and Fantasy type person.
That said, I'm enjoying DaS3 and I'm confident the dlc will make the game even better.
DaS2 doesn't even exist imo.
>>336153094
>that fucking INFURIATING banging.
Could this be the reason they didn't place him in Firelink Shrine in the first place? (In Dark Souls)
>>336152746
>Having Siegward have the EXACT SAME PERSONALITY as Siegmeyer?
excuse me but Siegward shares his personality with Biorr the jolly insomniac badass, not Siegmeyer who's a sad sag failure.
>>336153094
>be careful out there
>neither of us want to see ya go hollow
He was one of the only NPCs that helped you out, actually gave a shit about your well being and never betrayed you or went hollow. Sure, there were other nice NPCs but they were nice to you after you save their asses, Andre was just nice because he's awesome.
>>336153295
Jesus
>>336152773
I agree with Egyptian eye lasers god.
>>336153150
>the slow, escalating descent into madness that is progressing through BB
>the absolute insanity that is it's late game, DLC, and deep chalice dungeons
is there a SINGLE game, that isn't a direct adaptation of Lovecraft's work, that "gets" Cosmic Horror as well as Bloodborne did?
>>336151378
How else do medieval faggots holster bows ?
DaS > DeS >= DaS3 > DaS2
Didn't play BB.
>>336153450
I don't see how he's anything like Biorr except that he fights a big thing in the end.
When do you reckon we'll get info on the DLC?
>>336153295
what spell is that
>>336153329
I'm pretty sure it was just for pacing, so you couldn't show up to Taurus with a +5 weapon and make him your bitch. Granted, you get the resin, but it's more satisfying because nobody tells you he's weak to lightning, it'd be different if you could just but titanite and upgrade at the beginnings with the obvious damage bonus.
>>336153471
I guess he's a cool guy, but he's not by any means as memorable as Solaire (as a character that is, not as a meme), Siegmeyer, or even Lautrec.
>>336153673
they take the string off the bow and store it in a well-insulated container, since it's so important and (relatively) fragile. you can carry the wood like a walking stick, but the string must be treated with care.
they re-string it before each engagement
>>336153710
Perhaps you're a simpleton?
>>336153623
Darkest Dungeon had some neat stuff but other than that no not really. BB pretty much nailed it
>>336153742
Mid-late summer maybe?
>>336153623
Right? I was blown away by it. So many things in that game just fucked me up, visually and gameplay-wise. I loved it.
>>336153890
Well, you could also go down to the blacksmith in New Londo.
>>336153908
To each their own I guess, on my first play through he struck me the most and he's been my favorite ever since.
>>336146402
>it is still a flawed game with 70% of the game being pure average garbage and poorly polished gameplay
You just described every Souls game.
>>336153742
>>336154031
He doesn't sell titanite though iirc
>>336153921
That's slow and not something the undead would want to do, especially when the bonfire repairs everything anyways
>>336145728
let me guess. You played Dark Souls 1 first.
>>336153471
>Andre was the only one who cared about you
AHEM
>Now, go. Whatever you do, do not crack and go hollow. Lest my time spent on you, be wasted...
>ahh, there you are. to tell the truth, I had gotten a bit worried about you. Let us begin...
>when I gave you a part of that flame, I gave you a part of myself. please take good care of it.
>Good bye, then. Be safe, friend. Don't you dare go hollow.
>>336148984
Je suis bien content de pas avoir lu ces bouquins en français tiens.
>Mer grelotte
>Le Neufdon
M D R
>>336154096
I guess, he's not a bad character at all, he just doesn't really do enough for my liking. He's clearly a huge badass, and he even has a unique moveset. Would have been nice for him to help you out in a fight, maybe he could've helped with the titanite demon just a room over.
>>336154247
you're not going to be switching off that shield to use the bow anyway, it's not like you can magically affix the shield to your back in any kind of convenient timeframe like you do in-game
DeS is literally my favorite game of all time.
DaS is an ambitious game which improved many things from DeS but it was also rushed and not all of it is great,
DaS 2 was a mistake.
BB is a masterpiece and probably the best objectively, but chalice dungeons drag it down quite a bit.
DaS 3 is a great game but also feels very safe and uninspired, both in visuals and gameplay.
DeS = DaS = BB > DaS3 > DaS 2 is the correct ranking
>>336154271
This.
Laurentius was on the same level of husbando/bro as Solaire.
>>336149826
>Gameplay wise every other souls game is a vast improvement to DeS.
Dark Souls 1 literally just copy-pasted the gameplay of DeS, and then made a couple minor changes like plunging attacks, changing shove to kick, removing mana, and a retarded poise system. After that all the series added was dual-wielding and weapon arts. Meanwhile, DeS still has the best atmpsphere, lore, enemy design, and NPCs.
>>336154221
You can farm it from the hollows around the aqueduct
>>336154561
Quelana best DaS1 waifu
Laurentius best DaS1 husbando
Pyromancy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all other magic schools
just because of the teachers
>>336154271
>quelana is kind of using you to further her own ends
>you save laurentius's ass
They're great, but again you don't have to do anything for Andre in order for him to he nice to you, he's just friendly from the get go and asks for nothing aside from souls for his services.
Also Laurentius can end up going hollow and trying to kill you
>>336145728
BB>DaS3>DeS>DaS1>DaS2
Although DaS2 easily had the best PvP and the DLC was fantastic.
>>336154541
Honestly, the only ranking that feels right to me.
>>336152264
>Most of the bosses have practically unavoidable attacks and combos that come out ridiculously fast, this means that for your first fight you always have to play passively and memorize all their moves, while every single boss in DaS1 could be dodged on reaction, and if you're using anything bigger than a longsword it's literally impossible to hit them without trading damage, with the boss always winning of course, unless you spend 5 minutes just spamming infinite stamina rolls until he does that one slow, punishable attack and back to rolling.
This is going to sound trivial, but stop being so trash? Bloodborne greatweapons are not faster than DaS3 greatweapons, and same applies to faster weapons as well. In fact, if you look it up, you will see that the regular longsword is even a tiny bit faster than the untransformed Saw Spear/Cleaver.
>b-but good hunter has dashing instead of rolling and is much much faster!
Not by a huge margin. Dashing has the benefit of having less wakeup animation frames, but other than that they're not that drastically different, not to the point of making DaS3 "literally unplayable artificial difficulty thatnks c-team"-tier.
And how does this
>while every single boss in DaS1 could be dodged on reaction
compliment DaS1? If anything, you're just proving my point of DaS1 bosses being ridiculously easy.
>Most designs are copypasted form the other games, mainly bloodborne
>everything remotely morbid-looking or beast-like is bloodborne now
What examples of "literally buttborne" enemies do you even have aside from crocodogs (which look perfectly fine and fit in the style of the game) and cursed dogspiders?
>Too bad there bonfires every 2 feet
That an overexaggeration but fair enough, I can get behind the idea of disliking this, but it's a minor detail and hardly enough to make DaS1 iherently superior.
>and teleporting right from the start
Not objectively a bad thing.
>>336154704
i restarted my entire game when i found out what happened to Laurentius after telling him about my pyromancy.
>>336154764
>quelana is using you
>laurentius is only nice to you because you saved him
wew lad
>>336154764
You can't really give Laurentius shit for attacking you while hollowed, he doesn't know. Hell, even Siegmeyer attacks Sieglinde after hollowing in Ash Lake.
>>336155005
>>336152264
>so there's never any sense of exploration
How exactly does that invalidate the feel of exploration?
>or danger
Never have I felt like I was in danger in any of the souls game. If you mean Blighttown/Tomb shenanigans, they are perfectly manageable.
>Lmao, most weapon movesets are straight up lifted from DaS
And improved via the addition of weapon arts, yes.
>with the few new ones being total shit
Paired weapons are great desu.
>except the farron memesword, that one seems to suddenly weight as much as a straight sword when doing the L1 attack, great animation C team
What about arty's sword from the original game? Or is it okay when A-team does that?
>except in this one the slow DaS1 moveset that all heavy weapons have doesn't work due to poise not existing
All weapon that need poise in DaS3 have hyperarmour frames instead, it just requires you to adapt and time your attacks better, something I guess you have problems with. Adding poise to the game would just shift the already uneven balance equilibrium even more in favour of lighter weapons.
>Blue Sentinels and Darkmoons are useless because there's no sin system
Not having the Sin system is a legit complaint, I can agree, however it also worked like shit in DaS1.
>I can forgive the 1st game in the series to have covenants for them to not be perfect, but not the fucking 4th one.
At least DaS3 doesn't have 2 broken covenants, a glorified shortcut and 3 sunmeme coop covenants. Already makes it a better game in that regard. It's not the game's fault it didn't quite live up to your expectations.
>>336145728
DaS = SOTFS = DS3 > DeS > BB > DS2
I honestly think DeS would be the best game in the series if it had the healing mechanics of Dark Souls instead of the farmable grass.
It was also so weird how they took a step back from Dark Souls healing mechanics in Dark Souls 2 and introduced lifegems.
>>336154541
This is true honestly, basically what it boils down to is that the ones Miyazaki gave a fuck about and made with A-team are the best, while the ones he was forced to do with b-team weren't as great. It always surprises me that Miyazaki said he doesn't like sequels and yet people still fail to see how that shows in the franchise.
>>336147812
>having the absolute worst taste on an entire board
i commend you
>>336155038
I mean she sort of is to "save" her sisters, sure it's a good cause but she isn't solely helping you out of her own kindness.
>>336155046
I know, but one of my original points was that Andre never goes hollow and tries to fuck you up, just reinforcing how badass he is.
I mean dark souls has so many great NPCs and it's all subjective I'm just a big fan of Andre and was dissapointed by his use in 3. At least your favorite NPCs weren't bastardized into worthless fan service
>>336154541
>>336154806
>>336155215
>das2 was a mistake
It had a bunch of great mechanical concepts that I miss in DaS3 desu.
>spices for more precise build tuning
>powerstancing
>being able to fully utilize the moveset of your left weapon instead of blocking with it like a retard
>abyss invasions which were later re-imagined as one of the aspects of moundmakers
Rat Covenant was also a good idea on paper, just poorly implemented, like Gaylords.
Opinion:
BB>DaS>DeS>DaS3>>>>>DaS2
Objective:
BB=DaS=DeS>DaS3>>>>>DaS2
Dark Souls 3 is great, feels great to play, and is very well-made but it loses a lot of points for just how little new stuff there is. Like 90% of the memorable things in it (dragonslayer armor, nameless king, soul of cinder, patches, seigward) are all stuff from past games, same with armor sets. I loved stuff like DA, NK and SoC, but there still weren't quite enough totally new awesome guys like Lothric Twins.
>>336155793
Hey now, I'm not one of those "DaS2 0/10" guys, it's a good game with some good moments, but ultimately it doesn't reach the heights of the main 3 imo. Same thing with DaS3 even tho I think it's a bit better than 2.
OCELOTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>336155859
This is me exactly, minus the extra ">"'s before DaS2
>>336145728
BB > DS2 > DS3 > DeS > DS1
DS1 has some cool bosses but has my least favorite environments in the series. The second half of the game is also not that great.
>>336149826
I played DeS first and like DkS better but..
>Vast improvement over DeS
>Any other souls game
Pick one
>>336155859
fuck that looks amazing, i think i'll play some of it again tonight. feeling burnt out on my third DaS3 character
>PvE
BB = DaS > DaS3 > DaS2
>PvP
DaS3 > DaS2 > DaS > BB
>>336155859
I dunno, I feel like DaS3 does a pretty good job in following up on the concepts established in DaS1, and the new stuff introduced in DaS2.
storywise, DaS3's most important job was reconciling DaS1 with the clusterfuck that was DaS2, and I think it succeeded
>>336155859
>nameless
>das1
How so? You don't even get to know he's the Firstborn until you beat him.
>>336156143
Those never made sense to me.
It's like adding emotion to a purely mathematical symbol.
>>336156376
>that PvP ranking
How can you possibly think this? DaS3 does not have very good PvP whereas BB has the best. Being able to parry healing is genius, whereas healing in dark souls 3 is so fast you can't even punish it, people can literally just walk out of backstabs
>>336148472
Near best opinion, change to des=ds3 and were good
>>336145728
ds1 > ds3 = bb > des > ds2
>>336156376
>PvE
>DaS equal to BB
ds1 is slow and clunky as shit compared to bb/ds3, its BB = DaS3 >>>>> DS1 > DS2.
>>336156631
>you don't know he's firstborn til after
True, but his whole thing is "holy shit is that Gwyn on a dragon?!"
>>336145728
DaS1 sucked. Couldn't play it after I played SOTFS
I still think DeS was the best one. The design philosophy from DS1 onward became much more concerned with selling a formula than a game.
>>336156631
>It's like adding emotion to a purely mathematical symbol
We are emotional creatures. A math symbol wasn't enough.
>>336156631
Nameless was awesome but while fighting him I thought it was gwyn on a dragon because essentially, that's what it is. He looks like Gwyn in battle armor and throws lightning at you. The fight is totally different from gwyn's but it's still a DaS 1 callback, which isn't bad by itself but it just happened a bit too frequently.
>>336155159
I feel like this is the truth, although I legitimately enjoyed DaSII (Scholar, whatever) more than DaSIII so far.
I'm sure that list will be exactly what I feel once the DLC comes out, although part of me feels ashamed for thinking in such a way. What a world when we have to look forward to DLC fixing a game we already bought. Oh well.
>>336155859
I agree, but this is also III's strength. The entire Irithyll/ anor londo area is fucking brilliant, for example.
>>336157518
Have you played BB and DeS?
Who would win in a 1v1 fight between Gandalf and the Witch-King?
I wonder for those who keep putting SotFS into your rankings, why you ignore TOH for BB, but still include BB.
Werewolves a best
>>336157657
No. Which is why I didn't make any definitive comment regarding them.
Why?
>>336145728
Talk about an objectively shit opinion.
BB > DeS = DaS3 > DaS1 >>>>> DaS2
Any other opinion is objectively wrong.
>>336157793
>Logarius vs Shadows
Gandalf easy
>>336147812
Reverse that and you'd be correct
>>336157902
Just curious about your opinion on them
Where do I go after Deacons of the Deep? I'm lost and I've been wandering around this shitty swamp for hours
>>336157908
This is the only correct order
>>336158082
Go beyond abyss watchers into the catacombs, then to irithyll of borreal valley
>>336158082
>put the lights out
>fight abyss watchers
>spooky skeleton time
it's like a straight line man
>>336158082
fight the Abyss Watchers
look for the 3 towers of fire and extinguish them
pay attention to Hawkwood's dialogue
>>336158004
Well in that case, sorry.
I've dabbled in DeS and BB, so I know a bit about them. For one, I'm fascinated by BB's story and its ideas. I think that would make me incredibly biased if I were to play it, and I'd likely throw it up there with DaS as my favorite. And I immensely appreciate DeS for its settings, and for its legacy.
But as much as I'd like to, I just can't justify the coin for a PS3/4.
>>336158082
have you been extinguishing the flames you should be running into? they're on altars. Look for the giant pillars with fire ontop if you look above the trees
>>336145728
DeS > DS3 > DS1/Bloodborne > DS2
>>336158082
Find the big archway in the swamp guarded by two NPCs, then go through
>>336155027
You are not alone.
>>336158284
Understandable, if only more posters could be so civil
>>336158284
it's all a question of how much time you would put into them. measure it like an investment -- how many $/hour of entertainment would buying the ps4 and BB net you? is it an acceptable going rate?
>>336158294
>look above the trees
I'm an idiot, that's what I was missing. Thanks
