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Do you agree with these scores?
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>>336137628
>Dark Souls ended
>BB has forever the highest score

WE DID IT, LADS.
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Metashitic is bad and therefore often discarded
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>>336137628
I can't wait for all of this emotion for DaS3 to expire
There's like 30 threads a day
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>>336137895
keep crying
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>BB is the best one
>DaS is the worst

Yes.
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Swap DaS with DaS2 and its about accurate.
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>>336137628
>Bloodborned will be forever the hightest rated Souls game
In your fucking face PCucks.
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Swithc DaS with DaSII and it's perfect
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>>336137628
They are all 10/10 not even kidding, ds 2 was the best game of it's year.
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>>336137628
Souls babies blown the fuck out
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>>336137628
drop all those scores by about fifteen points and that's roughly my opinion
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>>336137628
DS3 > DS2 > BB > DS > DeS
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>>336138120
No

DaS is overrated shit

Ds3 is better in every way
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>>336137628
BLOODBORNE SUPERIORITY CONFIRMED
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>>336137895
Until it gets to your nintendo games, right? THEN it matters.
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>Bloodborne
Sure, it's a fucking great game. 9/10 is perfectly deserved.
>DaS 2
No, it's heavily flawed in such a manber that I didn't enjoy it at all. Literally forced myself to beat it. 3/10 at best.
>DeS
At the time of its release I'd have given it a 10/10 but looking back now it's more flawed than I thought at the time, with DaS and BB in particular showing elements of it could be done much better. After replaying it last year and finding a lot of it pretty clunky and annoying I'd give it a 7/10, maybe.
>DaS 3
Fucking great game, would put it on par with BB easily. 9/10 easily.
>DaS
Still kinda rough, but a big step up from DeS. Easily an 8/10.

Series as a whole is great but DaS 2 and DeS should drag the average down a fair bit from a 9/10
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>>336138725
>would put it on par with BB easily
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>>336138725
>DaS 3
>9/10 easily.
People and their shitty taste on this board. What exactly is DaS 3 doing right? I never lost so quickly interest in a souls game before.
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>>336138961
>>336138830

You have horrible taste
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>>336138961
>>336138830
I like that the combat is more similar to BB, and the boss/world design is better than DaS imo.

I also have never given a single fuck about pvp or summoned another player, though. Played each game after DeS fully offline to avoid getting anything spoiled for me too.
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>>336139138
>I like that the combat is more similar to BB
In what way? That the character responses better than in the previous games? Other than that it's nothing like BB.
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>>336138961
What are you on about? They borrowed so much from BB, from combat, to atmosphere...
Why are you children so irrational?
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>>336139243
Pretty much, yeah.

I'm really not sure how to describe it, but the game just feels a bit more aggressive and quick than DaS or DeS or DaS II did for me - and it sorta reminds me of BB.
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>>336139279
>atmosphere
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>>336139279
>DaS 3 and BB share the same atmosphere
You've got to be kidding. What exactly did they burrow from BBs combat? Fast responses? What else?
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>Dark Souls II that high
Wow, reviewers really are bandwagoning hacks, huh?
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>>336139359
Fast combat doesn't mean that the combat is the same. What the fuck.
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>>336139359
>it's aggressive and fast so it's like Bloodborne

Does that make it like DMC4 as well?
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BB > DaS1 > DeS > DaS3 >DaS2
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ds3: best area design, best bosses, most conistent quality

DS: by far and away the best and most realised world design

DS2: the best pvp

BB: the smoothest gameplay, at the expense of performance and variety (inb4 memers forget about utility and general function term variety)

Overall:

DS3: 9/10
DS1: 8/10
DS2: 6.5/10
BB: 8/10
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>>336137628
Bring Dark souls 2 to 80 or below and I'm good

Jesus fuck Dark 2 was horrible
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Is there a word for liking what you experienced first? Because I enjoyed the fuck out of Dark Souls, and none of the other games gave me the same feel as DS did.
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>>336137628
Bloodborne was definitely the most complete experience, the other Souls games all have some problems which should be taken into account in the scoring

Demon's Souls was a pretty low-budget game and had a lot of flaws, it was more experimental during it's release.

DaS1 PC was a horrible port with lots of problems and some of the areas were obviously rushed

DaS2 was much worse than other Souls games in terms of level design, music and bosses

DaS3 felt less like it's own thing and recycled tons of ideas all the way from Demon's Souls to Bloodborne and it also had some pretty bad problems during it's launch which took them over two weeks to fix.
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>>336139607
Never said it was the same, just that it was a bit more like it - and that I liked it.
>>336139695
Well, no.

DaS and BB have fairly similar combat systems, with the major differences between them being mostly due to the fact BB has a few mechanics meant to encourage speed and aggression far more than DaS.

DaS III feels a bit faster and more aggressive to me, meaning it feels a bit more like BB than DaS did.

DMC4 is extremely different to all three.
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>>336138630
>Presuming this guy likes Nintendo
wewlad
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>>336138961
Not my fault you have ADD, anon.
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Overall I'd have to say that the bosses of DaS3 are the best of the series
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>>336139879
What do you mean by "variety"? If it's weapon bitching again than you're wrong.

Bloodborne also performs fine unless you're unlucky. Also what about DeS? didn't play it?
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>>336140087
Bloodborne had better bosses desu.
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>>336138961
DaS3 has excellent level design from start to finish, bosses that start off fair, before getting progressively more interesting and challenging, a large variety in enemy, locale, weapon and armour design, no soul memory, branching and interwining npc storylines, actual story dependant npc's, nameless king is the most visually satisfying boss in the series, soul of cinder is the most versatile boss, twin princes are arguably the best realisation of "dual character" boss battles, dancer, dragonslayer armour, old demon king, pontiff sulayahn, aldrich, champion gundyr, abyss watchers and oceiros are all really good.

The game is just generally really high quality for a base content release.
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>>336140087
>best of the series
It's not opposite day. No boss comes close to Kalameet or Artorias.
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>>336140261
>DaS3 has excellent level design from start to finish
In terms of looks? Maybe but they aren't tough. Shortcuts everywhere, no deadly traps at all. It's complete fucking utter baby mode.
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>>336140265
>implying Gehrman, Ludwig, Orphan, and Gascoigne don't destroy those two
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>>336140265
This makes me hopeful for the DLC bosses as they seem to be great no matter which game it is.
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>>336137628

Dark Souls 3 is a solid 8.5 at best.

The formula is repetitive at this point (yes, historical context matters, which is why DeS will be remembered as the better game, for its time), most weapon arts are dogshit, the game is extremely linear and certain enemies are simply damage sponges that makes even running past them a chore.

The only people desperately pushing for DS3's superiority are PC Friends still pissed off about the Bloodborne fiasco.
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>>336140123
Variety in the sense of armour design, function, ring function (which is heavily superior to runes), magic utility and offense variety (hunters tools come literally nowhere near as close and the arcane stat in general is heavily underdeveloped).

And to adress the final point, while bloodborne's weapons are indeeed well developed, they still don't come close to the varity provided in dark souls, where tons of weapons account for various different needs, like bleed, different thrusts/movements, heavy and lesser varieties of weapons like the various greatswords, heavy scimitars vs normal ones, large clubs vs normal ones etc, the large amount of catalysts, bows, greatbows, the different functioning and numerous boss weapons and spells, the variety in DaS games is definitely higher than BB.

>>336140230
OH had two arguably better bosses, orphan of kos and ludwig, but the base games bosses don't even come close to Dark Souls 3's level of great boss content.
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They're too close together, and DS2 is too high.

Bloodborne: 97
Dark Souls 3: 93*
Dark Souls 1: 91
Demon's Souls: 88
Dark Souls 2: 84

*Though, DS3 feels more like a greatest hits compilation than it's own game.
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>>336140457
Anon, I think that BB bosses completely shit on the Souls bosses but he said series. I don't consider BB to be part of the souls series.
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>>336137628
except for ds2 yeah, as a SP experience from a reviewer's standpoint BB is still their best game with the best lore and setting

if you're into the MP(I was, thought DS2 had more staying power for the multiplayer) BB takes a backseat to Dark Souls
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As a sequel to Dark Souls 1 and 2, 3 is terrible, it barely makes any strive to do anything new and is just more of the same. It also makes far too many unsubtle references to previous stuff.

2 actually tried to do new things, so it's a better sequel than 3.
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>>336137628
>Bloodborne and demons souls are better than ds1 and ds3
PKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH ONCE AGAIN
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>>336140625
There's plenty of variety to Armor design.

Function what?

Ring function I'll agree with.

Also what are you smoking? Bloodborne weapon variety doesn't come close? Bloodborne essentially has 27 unique qeapon types (not counting the DLC). Every single weapon has a different moveset with a variety of swing speeds, damage outputs, special effects, and range. vs a bunch of copy paste weapons which all feel the same? Somehow that is less weapon variety?
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>>336140893
3 tried many new things too. Like completely destroying invasions. Didn't really turn out that good.
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>>336140457
soul of cinder, pontiff sulayvahn, abyss watchers, lothric twins, nameless king and champion gundyr are better than Gehrman and gascoigne, I'd personally rate them alongside ludwig, but not orphan.

This is in terms of difficulty, atmosphere and memorability.
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>>336137628
I agree that BB, DaS1, DeS and DaS3 are all easily awesome af games.

DaS2 however is nowhere near a 91. That score makes me think that most reviewers are in fact just idiots that were parroting it was a good game just because they were scared to say otherwise. To be clear DaS2 wasn't bad, but nowhere fucking near a 90. I'd give it a 7/10 which is extremely disappointing based on its pedigree.
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>>336140969
NG+ is 3 is also terrible as all it does is add new rings.
And because of the inherent overall linearity of the game and the fact that nothing is really that different in NG+, it makes things awfully bland and terrible. There's no replay value at all, especially since the only really viable build is a straight sword R1 mashing-fest.
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>>336140352
You're gonna tell me Cleansing Chapel didn't feel good when you opened it up fully?
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>>336139924
how is 80 horrible? 80 seems about right but its far from horrible. its a good game just a bit of a disappointment
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>>336140983
>soul of cinder
Literally nostalgia rehash cash in. Do you not care about originality at all?

>Pontiff
Decent fight but the whole presentation was awful, not even a cutscene for such an important character and a gimmick 2nd phase

>abyss watchers
worse version of Maria, boss fight ends way too quickly too

>Nameless King
Great fight but it happens to be in one of the shittiest B-team areas in the game which takes away from the build-up.

>Lothric
Probably my favorite fight in the game and one of the few bosses in the game that have any character, this is probably my biggest complaint about DS3

>Gundyr
Also lovely to play

I will say that they really got the whole Spooky vibe right with the Dancer, that is the fight Mergo should have been.
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>>336141315
No, why? What was the treat? All monsters are low tier and the golems don't even try to hit you when you stand under their feet.
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>>336140568
Bloodborne fiasco?
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>>336140954
There really isn't anywhere near the sheer variety in clothing styles and the level of memorable and visually striking armour sets that are found within any souls game.

While a lot of bloodborne weapons are very unique from another, that's not to say that some of them, especially a few of the ones at launch didn't have absolutely redundant transformation modes that were very similar, there were several weapons that fell within the longsword moveset.

And I only bring that up because it leads to the copy paste argument, which is really not very useful, as dark souls has traditionally given you tons of weapons that fall within similar roles, but give just enough difference to make them useful and different from eachother, I saw a thread several days ago that claimed that every dark souls 3 weapon class was just copy pasted, that "all blunt weapons" are the same, etc, and that's just ridiculous, it doesn't account for different weapon weight classes like heavy clubs, hammers, greathamers, greatclubs etc, all of which usually have at least 1-3 defining moves from eachother, and claiming that all of the straight sword weapons were copy pasted, without accounting for weapons like the dark sword, or thrusting swords like estoc, which is also a slashing weapon, and ricards rapier.

That's not even mentioning dark souls 3's dual weapon classes, a downgrade from dual weilding in dark souls 2 no doubt, but still enough to get away from the "no variety, everything is copy pasted" argument.

This isn't even accounting for boss weapons like artorias's greatsword or farrons ultra greatsword, of which have their own wacky movesets.
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>>336137628
>DeS > DaS

pcucks BTFO
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I wish more PC friends had gotten to play Bloodborne. It really is deserving of the top spot here, just for the base game alone.
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>pckeks on suicide watch
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>DeS has a better score than Dark Souls
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>A score efectsmy enjoyment
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>>336141903
The game's biggest problems are also the result of it being a ps4 exclusive. Imagine that shit with a smooth framerate and sensible load times.

I realize that the game wouldn't exist without Sony but man, what a shame.
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>>336141903
I wish BB was on PC just so people would stop shitposting every other thread to death. Also if it were it would probably get its deserved status as the best game in the franchise.
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>>336141495
>gimmick second phase
You shouldn't use words you don't know the meaning of.
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Bloodborne was he best and second is Demons Souls. DS1 was decent, DS2 I skipped and DS3 was okay but enemies and bosses felt lacking.
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>>336142237
Who gives a fuck when all of that is subjective either way?
Oh, wait. For one second I forgot that you were shitposting.
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>>336142237
this desu
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>>336138183
This. Reviewers are just salty that they can't breeze through the game and From didn't bribe then
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>>336141495
>Soul of Cinder

This fight is reliant on nostalgia in the sense that it closes the series by referencing the actions that take place upto and forward from dark souls 1, it needed to happen.

The fight is unique however mainly because of the first phase, you can't claim this boss is unoriginal when it has such a ridiculously large moveset and random phase orders after the first attempt, it can be using pyromancies, miracles and sorceries all within the space of around 20 seconds, it can be ninja flipping, healing, using wrath of gods, using fast spinning scimitar attacks relentlessly, casting soul stream or soul greatsword, casting a toxic mist, thrusting with the spear or doing a spin2win mode attack, or just a standoff with the basic longsword mode.

It really is a fantastic fight, and I couldn't have hoped for anything better, definitely the best final boss in the series.

>Pontiff

The presentation for this fight was fantastic though, did you want a Dark Souls 2 tier esque custscene followed by a red aggro effect?

No the way you just come in to his arena as he's facing away from you, the large angelic statues encircling him, the icy music beginning with the choir coming in, as he then turns around, the fight was presented fantastically.

The fight's second stage was similarly, really fun, the music kick in as you know shit is about to go down, the way the clone phantoms his attacks in a way that is both threatening and useful, and the sheer visual satisfaction of the fight's more flaming movesets.

Very fun fight.

>Abyss watchers

I'll have to disagree here, I liked how the fight began with a very unique way of approaching the battle, whether you're relying on the third watcher, or baiting the backstabs, it felt like there were a lot of options here, and the gimmick made it feel unique.

Still better than gascoigne and gehrman though.
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>>336141971
>implying it isn't better
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>>336137628

>DaS2
>Better than anything on that list

nah.
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>>336137628
>The lower the score the better the game
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>>336141707
Yes, But I counted those redudant transformations. The only one which is really redundant is Tonitrus, because the only thing that changes is it's special effect. I took the base modes of the Cleavers and the Church Weapons into account as well. The weapon variety in Bloodborne almost doubles when you take the DLC into consideration.
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I'll never u derstand the praise for bloodborne. Got a shitty PS4 for 150 bucks and bloodborne for 30 and beat the entire game and all the bosses in less than a week. You're given so many retarded things it's almost impossible to die, gameplay is the biggest R1 spam fest I've ever seen and the PvP is just laughable. Not to mention the PS2 environment textures, lack of AA, chromatic abberstion, bloom and blur to hide how ugly the game is.
I guess if it was your first type of souls game I could see you thinking it was difficult or the best or something but it failed to be harder than ninja gaiden on the normal difficulty.
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>>336142356
It's not subjective. BB is the most refined and complete game in the serious with the best weapon move sets and balance, most original and diverse set of bosses, world design second only to DS1, and most importantly a fresh and exciting narrative for a series that had gotten kind of stale (looking at DS3 in particular, I really like the game but the story and atmosphere are really lacking).
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>>336142438
This nigga gets it.
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>>336142236
The load times are fine and the framerate is good most of the time with some minor drops.

Most of the issues people had with the game literally got patched within a month after release.
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>>336142237
>Also if it were it would probably get its deserved status as the best game in the franchise.

It already has this, anon.
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>>336142715
Woah, did you know how fast you were memeing?
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>>336142715
None of the souls games are hard and you could apply the criticisms of yours to pretty much every other title. BB PvP was gimped by poor design but if you are into honor duels it has the best due to the incredible weapon variety. It certainly has the most balanced and strategic fights.
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>>336142732
>Diverse bosses
>Either humanoid or some giant beast
The only really cool bosses that even made me consider gettings this game some time in the future, because believe me I really want to play it.
Were Ludwig and Ebrietas.
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>>336142453
>implying that is
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>>336137628
>DaS2 higher score than DeS and DaS
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>>336139879
>DS2 magic oneshots and katana crazy phantom range
>best pvp
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>>336142960
>I watched the game once, I definitely know what I'm talking about
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>>336142960
>>Either humanoid or some giant beast

That complaint works for every single fucking game that FromSoft had made in the last decade. Why do you think it's something that only pertains to BB?
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>>336142732
>>336142960
Also
>Story and atmosphere are really lacking.
I disagree, for me atleast the atmosphere was alot better than in DS1. The only real atmospheric moments in DS1 was reaching anal rodeo and Oolacile.
>best balance
From what i've seen pvp was completely broken for a while since you could just straight up one shot people with the canon for example.
Another broken weapon until fixed was the shotgun spear.
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>>336142237
It already is the best game in the series.

Why do you need mustards to validate it?
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>tried to play ds1
>played like shit but was interesting
>gave up after 10 hours
>get ds2
>aw hell yeah
>play that shit for over 200 hours
>ds3 comes out
>mfw it's ds1 with good graphics
Thanks for beta testing etc.
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DeS>DaS3>BB>DaS>DaS2

So yes, I disagree with that image.
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>>336138725
Is there anyone more delusional
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>>336138223
>BB>DeS>DaS>DaS3>DaS2
the only correct answer
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>>336143132
I've seen all the bosses and their movesets.
So yes, that is enough to tell how diverse they are, and they do not excel from any particular souls game except DS2.
That was the whole point you mongoloid.
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>>336143309
Agreed
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>>336142998
>>336142913
>different opinion
>you're a memer!
The bloodborne fanboys are real
>>336142941
I know it can apply to those as well. And by the way people were kissing their pants on this board especially over the optional bosses I thought it was going to be more difficult. The old armored core games had more variety, required more strategy and were much more difficult. I guess I expected something that wasnt there from all the hype on here, or shills at this point I cant even tell.
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Bloodborne is the only game that i didnt finish because i started getting bored

stopped after amygdala
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>>336140983
>soul of cinder

This was such a shit fight. It's one of two final Soulsborne bosses I beat first attempt (the other being the awful Nashandra) and the whole fight is, mechanically, very comparable to the fucking NPC Old Monk fight from DeS with a Gwyn second phase. He's predictable as fuck and can easily be beaten simply by turtling him with a shield. Huge disappointment.

>pontiff sulayvahn

A semi-decent fight mechanically but absolutely nowhere near Gehman or Gascoigne. Strafe left and he'll miss most of his attacks.

>abyss watchers

Shitty add fight in the first half. Less interesting Maria in the second.

>lothric twins

Way too fucking easy. Another boss you can easily tank with a shield.

Nameless King and Champ are the only decent boss fights in DaS3 and neither of them are as good as Ludwig.
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yes those scores are 100% objectively correct. inb4 sotfs meme haters
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Dark souls 2 sucks and players who like it more than anything else in the series should punch themselves in the nuts until they die
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>mfw want a ps3 for demons souls
>mfw want a ps4 for bb, das3
wtf do I choose
i dont even like video games, just the souls games
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>>336143328
>I've watched someone else eat a steak dinner in a movie, I can tell you exactly what it tastes like, the texture, the subtleties of the meal
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>>336137628
Yes.
Dark Souls 1 an overrated.
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>>336140004
Did you not know this is Nintendogaf?
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>>336137628
who cares about metacritic scores?
they actually give different weights to critic scores depending on how popular they are. pretty shit system.
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>>336143309
So long as we can agree that DS2 was a blight and all those who has defended it have garbage taste, you are my nigga
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>>336143223
Dark souls 2 is the easiest in the series, of course you had more hours in and quit when it's hard
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>>336137628
No.
I do not believe a complex opinion of a game can be rated numerically/mathematically
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>>336143458
>Mergo's Wet Nurse
>Top Tier
>Pthumerian Descendant/Ebrietas/ Paarl/ not top tier
>Micolash not god tier
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>>336143458
A shitty list made by shitty players with shitty opinions

really a shining example of why you shouldnt listen to anything anyone tells you on this board
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>>336143495
Then tell me, how are they more diverse?
Oh, I forgot.
You fucking can't.
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>>336143637
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>>336143738
I love Wet Nurse and it annoys me it doesn't put up more of a fight because it's design and mechanics are top tier.
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>>336143440
There was 1 good dark souls 2 DLC and that was only good because it has 2 decent bosses in it. The entirety of dark souls 2 was an uninspired and forgettable mess with zero effort put into it. You can call the people that hate it meme lovers or whatever you want but it doesn't change that dark souls 2 and sotfs was a trite piece of dog poop.
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>>336143102
>I never learned how to roll
>I don't know what a hitbox is
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DS1 certainly had the most memorable bosses, which is why its always rated so high. Looking back on it, you cant help but have fond memories due to the bosses.

But, it had the worst pretty much everything else.
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>>336138223
DeS will forever stay my favorite Souls game because it was my first. Such a blast and unique experience, nothing after come close to it. Bloodborne but because it was different to Souls games.
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>>336143845
gomen anon, I don't argue with cucks
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>>336143637
undertale can't even beat minecraft
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>>336143875
>I play DS2

FAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOT
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>>336143984
Speak for yourself. I remember more DeS bosses than I do DaS bosses. The only DaS bosses I remember by name are Seeth, Gwyndolin, Priscilla, and Gwyn.
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>>336137628
>using pc meta scores
Lel
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>>336137628

Considering that they're all within 5 points of each other - reflecting the relatively equivalent level of quality between the games - I'd say it's pretty accurate
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>>336143996
>loses argument
>c-cuck
See yourself out you massive cockgarglesnozzle.
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>>336143637
>Bloodborne - 92 (100 critics)
>Undermeme - 92 (42 Critics)

Top kek
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>>336143309
>DeS that high
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>>336139879
Actually I don't even see Bloodborne as an action RPG like DS and DaS. More like an action game with RPG elements. And as an action game it's almost perfect.
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>>336144140
You spent hours of your life watching someone else play a video game so you could pretend to be an armchair critic on /v/. You are the ultimate cuck
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No because it implies Dark Souls 2 is better than Demons and almost on par with Bloodborne, and that's just plain fucking wrong
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>>336141625
Bloodborne being console only
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I'd give a bit more to DeS and a bit less to BB.
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>>336137628
Des 9
Dark 1 8
Dark 2 7
BB 8
Dark 3 8

This is fact.
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>>336144209
>>336144209
Demon's Souls is the best. Stay mad, faggot.
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>>336144308
DS2 is a lot more replayable I think.
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>>336144276
Mainly checked out vaatis lore videos on bosses.
Mainly because I want to find out if it's worth buying a console for one game
And you still lost the argument so fuck off.
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>>336143379
>zero specifics
>vague criticisms that are often seen in mustard threads

you are the worst kind of person
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>>336137628
BB - Slightly overrated
DaS2 - Overrated
DaS - Just right
DaS3 - Slightly underrated
DeS - Slightly underrated
The series - About right
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>>336137628
all this shows is that ds2 is where all the cashuls realized they had to like souls games to be cool. before then they could get clicks by saying it's crap why would anyone like hard games as evidenced by the best in the series being the lowest rated
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>>336138223

>putting DS2 above any other souls game

wew lads
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>>336137628

Dark Souls 3 is multiple times better than 2, it isn't even a fucking contest.

Dark Souls - 8/10
Dark Souls 2 - 6/10 (only saved cause it is a souls game)
Dark Souls 3 - 9/10
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they should go back to making Armored Core, these games suck ass
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>>336144523
>vaatis lore videos
just stop posting already
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>>336144639
I fully agree with these scores.
I would give Demon's Souls and Bloodborne both 8/10
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>>336137628
I kinda wish they were all a little higher, especially dark souls 1. These were all incredibly enjoyable games for action RPG fans, actually amazingly so.
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>>336143309
Wrong order, my friend, you got it all inverted.
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>>336144687
Your autism is showing, friend.
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>>336144836
>he thinks DaSII is the best
>he thinks it's better than literally anything
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>>336144881
You are the one who watches other people play video games and keeps replying to my memes... so maybe you should look in the mirror?
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>>336143583
I dont remember 90% of those bosses what the fuck
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I generally don't ever come sultry with and rarer still "agree" with metacritic
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>>336137628
>DaS2
>91
>taking these shitters seriously
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>>336144639
serious question guys. why do people hate DS2 when compared to 1 and 3?
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>>336143458
>Vicar Amelia
>high tier

Amelia is the only fight I hate replaying on a new game or NG+
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>>336144523
>le PS4 only has one game meme
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>>336144948
>he knows DaSII is the best

Fixed that for you ;)
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>>336143583
Literally who?
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>>336145025
>my memes
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>>336137628
>Das2

Fuck no. That game was a step down from Dark Souls in almost every which way where it mattered.
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>>336145169
DLC?
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>>336145294
It only has one game that I care about
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>>336144639
>72 hours
>last achievement is dancer

You're really stopping to smell the roses, huh?

Also if you haven't beaten the game how can you rate it
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>>336145201
2 was too easy, flawed, little variety on builds, only 2 bosses are memorable (Alonne and fume knight) and Covenants are boresome.
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>>336145294
No, but Bloodborne and Nioh are the only ones that interest me.
Maybe i'll get the ps4k.
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>>336145391
>it was a step down in disappointment
>it was a step down in shitiness

Sounds about right.
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>>336145391
No it wasnt. In some regards yes but das2 improved some things from das including the combat. It was more fluid.
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DeS - 6.5/10
DaS - 7/10
DaS2 - 5.5/10
DaS3 - 6/10
BB - 7.5/10

Any rating outside of this is pure inflation at best and obvious fanboyism.
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>>336138234
Can you read?
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Objectively correct. Memers say DaS2 is bad, but with the addition of the DLCs easily puts above DeS, DaS, and DaS3. BB of course is superior to all.
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>>336145521
Do we even know if this 4k thing is real yet? all the leaks say conflicting things about it so I'm skeptical.
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>>336145739
Why do you even care about 4K anyway?
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>>336143458
>no DLC bosses
>Rapehorse, Orphan and Maria straight into God tier
>First Vicar good tier
>ayylmao 2.0 in bad tier
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>>336145659
Sir, is your brain damaged?
With those statements of yours, you´re making me think that it is.
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>>336145490

Is this better, phamilium? If there's something else, don't be shy and ask, I take requests.
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>>336145856
I don't. I'm just interested in this whole leak about a supposed $k. I have no interest in buying the thing, but I have my doubts.
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>>336145985
n-no further questions
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>>336145864
>Living Failures
>bad

Also that image was made before the DLC was even announced.
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>>336137628
Bloodborne and Dark Souls 2 should be somewhere in the 70s.

Otherwise accurate.
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>>336146208
>Bloodborne
>Not at least a 90
Keep dreaming.
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>>336137628
Add 5 to each and it's right but I agree
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>>336145201
Personally
>screwed up the superior Estus healing system from DaS; now reliant on life gems and miracles to supplement it
>knight class doesn't start with a shield, but warrior does
>earliest shields are garbage with less than 100% dmg reduction
>leveling has to be done with an NPC that talks through four text boxes every time (but DeS and DaS3 are guilty of this too)
>absolutely pathetic jumping
>movement feels much worse, just unnatural and as another anon put it "stilted"
>excessive and obnoxious critical hit animation

And I've only fought Dragonrider and The Last Giant
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>>336146208

Spot the mustard
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>>336146290
>>336146773
Post a picture of your PS4 with Bloodbourne and a 100% complete screen on your TV with a timestamp or your argument is invalid
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>Dark Souls 2
>above anything

Nah
>>
DaS3=DaS>BB=DeS>>>>DaS2
I only very marginally like DaS3 and DaS more than BB. Its mainly due to me just preferring High Fantasy to Victorian Lovecraft
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>>336146439
>leveling has to be done with an NPC that talks through four text boxes every time (but DeS and DaS3 are guilty of this too)

No, DeS and DaS3 did it much better
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DaS3 >= BB > DaS > DeS > DaS2

They're all fantastic and these are very minute differences in rating.
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>>336144274
This is a pretty fair assesment. Over about the last 10 years as tech has advanced a lot of what were once pretty bold lines drawn between genres have been getting quite blurry, and we are starting to see good ideas from a lot of different games make their way into others.
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>>336146973
You are in such a hurry to defend Bloodborne that you didn't even read those posts properly. Either that or you have the reading comprehension of a ten year old.

lmao
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>>336146439
>screwed up the superior Estus healing system from DaS; now reliant on life gems and miracles to supplement it
I've never played that much into DaS, but I've never needed more than estus flasks in DaS2. Just how fucking OP are the estus flasks in DaS?
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>>336143458
Just how much am I missing by not bothering with the chalice dungeons? I always play them for a bit but get bored of the same dank setting and repetitive beat. Haven't even fought a chunk of those bosses.
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>>336147372
drinking it is faster, you can carry alot more and it heals you instantly.

DaS2 however is the complete opposite
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>>336147075

Weapons and armors set it apart for me. I just love collecting them, upgrading them, trying them and switching it up my builds. Some gripes like how gems and purchasable items don't stay upgrade in NG+ or how the mechanic to change specs is deep into the game and not readily available.

Bloodborne just doesn't have the same number of weapons despite their modes. FROM does amazing DLC though, Bloodborne didn't really become great until we got the DLC.

When Dark Souls 3 gets its DLC then we'll be sure if it was just equal or better.
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>>336147178
You're right, I forgot DeS does her incantation while you level up. The main point was needing an NPC to level up instead of any available bonfire. BB does this too so I'm sad it's the norm when the bonfire level up was much smoother.

How much better was DaS 3 with leveling up? I've only rented it and remember it was pretty close to how DaS II and Blooborne had some text boxes before the menu popped up.
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>>336137628
Demon's deserved more, but petty reviewers who couldn't get past 1-1 gave it low scores.
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I won't lie, I enjoyed the shit out of Dark Souls II in terms of everything. It is the game that screams maximum comfy in everything. Everything feels like a genuine adventure without DaS' need to make you feel like you're trapped in a goddamn medieval horror movie.

Sure, the enemy placement is convoluted as fuck but the charm of DaSII is its world. Everything is a maximum fuckton of random stuff clumped together. Lots of weapons and builds to choose from, and every play through feels like I'm rolling a different guy for real. DaSII is the definition of git gud, and DaSIII can't even come close. The covenants, the invasions, the PvP, it really does the walk for me.

DaS however had a very excellent interconnectivity between areas that it is actually fun and challenging to suicide run for a particular gear. Enemies are challenging and literally set the bar high for souls games.

DaSIII can't even come close to these two. Linear and not even challenging as fuck.
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:^)
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>>336140457
>Gascoigne, Orphan better than Artorias, Kalameet
'no'
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>>336146973
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>>336147372
New bonfires give you five uses of Estus, except Firelink which gives ten by default. You can spend a humanity at bonfires to increase how much Estus they give (up to 10 before needing the Rite of Enkindling to kindle further.) You can give Fire Keeper souls to a fire keeper to strengthen the Estus flask and how much you recover with each use.

I'm not very knowledgeable about DaS II's as I've only found one Estus shard shard to give me two uses per bonfire trip, but I really don't like the changes so far. Maybe it gets better further on.
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>>336147817
make one showing Bloodborne and Witcher 3 please
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>>336147414
Did you ever reach Depth 4 chalices? They get really long and a lot harder by that point. Hell, Even Depth 3 chalices start to fit that bill.
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>>336137628
I see Soulsfags have their own kind of Zelda cycle bullshit.

>Gameplay
DaS3 > DaS2 = DaS

>Replayability
DaS2 > DaS > DaS3

>Builds available
DaS2 > DaS > DaS3

>World/ Level Design
DaS3 > DaS > DaS2

>Story
DaS > DaS2 = DaS3

>Boss Quality
DaS = DaS2 = DaS3
No winner here, all had their nice bosses and their shit/gimmick bosses.

>Covenants
DaS > DaS2 = DaS3

DaS3 has this "lmao lets duplicate the same covenant" thing, but mound-makers is a neat idea, poorly executed though.

>PVP
DaS2 >= DaS3 > DaS2
They just had to drop Soul Memory bullshit in DaS2 to make its pvp good.

Note: DaS2 and DaS scores include DLC. I don't include BB because it's not a souls game, it''s a spinoff that does it's own, unique thing. About DeS, I never played it so it's not included.
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>>336147414
>Just how much am I missing by not bothering with the chalice dungeons
A lot.
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>>336147872
>Craig Bond Collection

Opinion invalidated.
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>>336147476
Okay so DaS2 did estus better. Its nice when these games actually have a minute amount of difficulty that everyone likes to claim they have. Hell, even fucking Kingdom Hearts makes you think more about when you heal. Monster Hunter will blow you the fuck out if you don't learn to heal at the right time. My experience with DaS games so far has been that healing is a luxury.
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>>336137628
>DS2 second highest/highest multi-plat
Nice b8 m8
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>>336137628
>A bunch of 9/10 games
Yeah, I agree.
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>>336148014
>Dark souls 2
>replayable
>implying i didnt uninstall that trash the minute i finished it
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>muh metacritic scores
I suppose The Last of Us is better than the whole series?
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>>336147872
>Craig
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>>336148303
Sonyggers actually think it is, yes.
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>>336148014
>Replayability
>DaS2 > DaS
They both have equally awful PvE replayability.
>Boss Quality
>DaS = DaS2
DaS2 has some great ones but overall DaS2 boss cast is significantly worse.
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>>336148303
Most of them, yes
>>
They all are 9/10 games besides DaS2 who is 8.
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>>336145201
>movement feels weird
>game looks washed out
>lacks the atmosphere that the other souls games have
>b-team wants to make the game difficult by adding tons of enemies
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>>336148418
Kill yourself
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>>336148353
>think the PS4 offers better games than the other 2 consoles
>get called a sonygger
>think TLoU is a steaming pile of shit
>get told I must think TLoU is the best thing ever if I'm a sonygger
God damn it. Which one is it? Am I a sonygger or not?
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>>336146439
>excessive and obnoxious critical hit animation
i would rather slip halberds into people
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>>336146973
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>>336148014
You what? DaS 3 has the best bosses by far.
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>>336148495
>b-team wants to make the game difficult by adding tons of enemies
isnt ds3 at fault too?
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>>336148656
>taking a shitty picture of the screen
>not screenshotting it
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>>336148656
>>336146973
BTFO
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>>336148597
>think TLoU is a steaming pile of shit
Nah, you're good. I don't use the term sonygger lightly since I think platform wars are stupid. I just hate people eating that shit up because it's a massively shilled exclusive.
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>>336148104
>>336148323
CraigBond is fucking great, fuck off /tv/.
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>>336148829
>screenshot
>with a physical timestamp
Did you miss the point anon?
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>>336148829
But then it would be missing the timestamp
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>>336148829

Wasn't worth any more effort desu.
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Is it just me, or it feels like some enemies in DS3 fit Bloodborne more than a souls game?
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>>336137628
Personally

DaS3 >= DeS > DaS > DaS2

Didn't put enough time into BB for it to start being good, so I'm leaving it off. Planning on picking it up again after I'm done with 3 though. Any beginners tips for someone who's defensive in DaS?
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>>336143309
This is literally the god opinion.
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>>336146973

It's been a good while since I have seen some one this anally REKT'D. Stay there anon, don't move. I'll go buy you an ice pad for that rectal ravaging.
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>>336149090
Nah that game will destroy you if you don't learn the basics of parrying.

Just skip it if you are a shieldfag
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>>336148374
>DaS
>awful replayability
You what?
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>>336149090
Start practicing dodging as soon as you start the game
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>>336148945
>because it's a massively shilled exclusive
Fuck, I don't even see how it manages to get shilled so much. The story is horrible with no character development outside the 2, and they barely develop. The gameplay is laughably easy, and removes any fear of dying once you get the flamethrower. Also, the graphics doesn't look like the best graphics on the PS3 from what I can remember, but maybe that is just me. Even if it was the best graphics, it should be so much better than every other game that I shouldn't remember other games having better graphics, since it supposedly has graphics that blows everything else out of the water.
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>>336149090
You can heal yourself if you attack quickly enough after taking damage. Dodges work better than rolling so just substitute raising your shield with one, you have more i-frames than in Souls games too.

Don't listen to people acting like it's so much harder than any of the Souls games, it just plays differently for the most part.
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>>336149262
Not skipping it again. I'll just have to git gud then. I use a shield a lot, but I also only hold it up in case I fuck up a dodge
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>>336149090
Bloodblorne is meant to blow defense fags the fuck out
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>>336144639
Dark Souls 2 gets too much shit. I liked 1 and 3 over it as well, but it's not too bad. I enjoyed it.
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>>336138223
DS3 =DS>DS2> DeS
FTFY, Chief.
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>>336149262
>Nah that game will destroy you if you don't learn the basics of parrying.
I 100% both the main game and the DLC, and I still can't parry. I never even managed to parry Gascoigne a single god damn time... Probably the only things I've ever parried in the game is the fatties and the hipsters in cathedral ward.
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>>336148374
>They both have equally awful PvE replayability.
DaS3 also has shitty PvE replayability, nigga. Literally no reason to play it more than once unless you want to see the other endings.

>DaS2 has some great ones but overall DaS2 boss cast is significantly worse.
Hence why the score is the same for all.

>>336148660
Nameless King, The Princes or Aldritch being pretty good bosses aren't excuses to ignore Wyvern, Old Demon King, Yhorm, Oceiros, etc. Abyss Watchers were plain mediocre. Etc. Same as above, all games have pretty nice bosses but the quantity and quality of the others even their scores.
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>>336148656
The 5th of January was months ago you silly billy.
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>DaS2 above an 80
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