So, Nexus is dead right?
https://youtu.be/hdGr8MH4pPU
Bethesda net has taken over fallout mods.
No, Bethesda is dead for betraying it's fanbase.
>>336135814
How so?
>>336135927
Allowing Valve to try and implement paid mods in the first place.
>>336136975
I don't care for paid mods to be honest, If i create content for a game let's say TF2 workshop and its a new weapon.
Should valve pay me? Or should they make money off my work?
>>336137197
I sincerely doubt your particular weapon is bringing in the money for Valve
>>336135532
I think that Bethesda.net will only be used by console players while the majority of PC players will still use Nexus. Or I hope at least.
>>336135532
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
>>336137197
Or perhaps try killing yourself nigger
>>336137293
Maybe, Maybe not but you do earn a bit of money from it.
And valve takes a bigger cut, so naturally they are probably getting more.
>Paris Nourmohammadi
Allah akbar
i look forward to pirating every paid mod i see and telling /v/ about it to make valve and bethesda fanboys bleed profusely from their manginas.
No, Nexus will be for everything that consoles can't do or that can't be done simply by basic implementation. This Bethnet stuff is Workshop 2.0, no one will use it because its shit.
>>336137761
>Maybe, Maybe not but you do earn a bit of money from it.
No, no maybe
No one is going to hear "there's a really good weapon in TF2 made by xXFaggotXx" and go "I didn't want to play TF2, but since xXFaggotXx made a weapon, now I will"
You could argue that overhaul mods like Long War for XCOM:EU do, but you'd be hard pressed to find a single mod like that in the workshop
>>336135532
>paid mods
what?! I thought that was a joke
no company could be this greedy
>>336137868
more like Paris pour Mohammad am i rite
>>336135532
Where are you gonna get nude and sex mods?
>>336135532
Yeah, just like how Nexus died after the Skyrim Steam Workshop.
Oh, wait.
>>336137197
If you can't understand why the way Valve and Bethesda are doing paid mods, you simply have not been around long enough to see how amateur content creators can be scummy, we already have enough bad shit from AAA developers, publsihers and indie developers, having modders steal other people's work to make 5 bucks on steam would be the least of our worries..
Most of the TF2 items are fan-made, mind you, but the fans only make the models and textures, valve does everything else, as in the stats and how the item works in game. The creator of the item probably gets some form of compensation, but I can't say for sure.
>>336138019
companies are greedy by extension. even the ones you think are "based" don't give a shit about you and would fuck you over at any opportunity. video game developers aren't a charity. the sooner you realize this the better.
>>336135532
>Horse Armor
>>336135532
So wait, the Creation Kit is going to be pay to use? I don't get it
Can mods make this a passable game? Like turn it back into an RPG, for instance, instead of a CoD clone.
>>336135532
it doesn't even have big female ass mods yet.
>>336138287
No.
>>336138386
They've been around for months, mate.
>>336138327
Yes, you'd be surprised what they have been able to change without the CT
It's going to take a lot of time but it is possible
>>336138386
not on b.net is what I meant.
>>336138327
Mods can't fix the shitty writing without making it an entirely different game.
>>336135532
They're doing this just to bring mods to consoles. Most mods on PC (for previous bethesda games) requires script extensions and custom dlls, so Nexus will likely remain the main source of mods.
Not to mention all the adult mods that will obviously be rejected on the official platform.
>>336138170
Yes, people who submit and have items approved for in-game in TF2 do get a portion of every sale. I knew a guy who had several, though I forget the exact number - it's somewhere around 5%-10% of the sales from Valve's shop. The guy I knew made a couple grand per item.
>>336138934
Thanks for clearing that up.
>>336135532
Modding as we knew it is dead. Instead of modders making shit for themselves & their community out of enthusiasm for the game, with the devs facilitating this by releasing the creation kit and reaping the benefits of free content improving their game and boosting its reputation & sales, we'll have a bunch of greedy jews trying to make a quick buck so the devs can get a few more free shekels out of the deal.
They fucked up when they let their greed get the better of them.
>>336138679
Mods make that writing less important.
>>336138327
You'd need to write and possibly record new dialogue and create new scenarios if you want a passable RPG.
>>336139194
Writing for an RPG will always be important.
>>336139292
Good thing Fallout 4 isn't an RPG
>>336138019
>>336135532
>Horse armor
Apex kek
>>336135532
This requires you do have plug and play modding, something none of the TES/Fallout games are known for.
You would have to ensure that you don't have to run anything externally, no workarounds, and it worked perfectly. For most modders, thats a lot of fucking effort.
Probably see some token offerings on there, but nothing niche or difficult, or really stretching the game.
>>336138213
fuck off, todd
>>336135532
How has it taken over? I still launch and use mods the same as before, even if they fucked every UI mod on the release of survival
it kinda made me half sad/half mad seeing todd so casually mention morrowind like that. bethesda is a shell of what it used to be. they're not the studio that made morrowind anymore
>>336139343
So it's the physical manifestation of the raping of a series, that makes it ok now I guess.
>>336139343
It's an action RPG.
>>336135532
Lol, no, bethesda own modding community and consoles player won't get script extender, which is what every good mod is based on.
>>336139292
Go back to Planescape, fag. Some of us want games, not visual novel shit.
>>336135532
Shill or just retarded?
>all these people ignoring that they specifically mention Xbox and PS in the video
It's for consolefags. Simmer down
>>336138170
Well. That's kinda wrong.
You have to model, texture and compile for source.
Valve simply adds it to a list of weapons and gives it stats.
>>336139731
How much do they pay you for shitposting on the internet?
>>336139731
You're not fooling anyone.
>>336139240
Can't they just remove the MC voice and do it like fallout 3 and new vegas?
>>336139731
>tfw you're 26 and find visual novels and books more enjoyable to true video games these days
i thought i was immune to getting old
>>336135532
Good riddance. Nexus was always cancer, now we finally have quality control.
>>336135532
Do you have any idea how much momentum the Nexus network has in the modding community? If Valve fucking Software couldn't kill it, then Bethesda most certainly can't.
>>336135532
Does that mean pc players will get the GECK and be able to make better mods?
>>336139959
The nexus community IS quality control.
>>336140102
>Does that mean pc players will get the GECK and be able to make better mods?
durrr
hurrr
durrr
derp a dee hurr
>>336139929
Maybe you're depressed.
I'm 28 and still love videogames.
>>336135532
Bethesnet
>paid mods
>under 5 gigabyte limit meaning no extensive big mods like nexus can handle because consoles gimp it
>no moderation
>tfw i've already uploaded a file to delete peoples game save files
Wew lad.
>>336140181
>>336140102
How can you be this stupid?
>>336140408
>i've already uploaded a file to delete peoples game save files
That's fucking hilarious, have you been caught yet?
>>336139929
Steins;Gate 0 localization when?
>>336140539
Nope. I have over 20 downloads and people wondering what the mod does in the comments because I put, "might delete save files".
Good god its hilarious. Don't know if it works for consoles though.
Unless Bethesda is happy to host porn mods, Nexus will always exist.
And unless Bethesda is happy to host pregnancy/bestiality/loli mods, Loverslab will always exist.
>>336139894
I guess they could, but i think it would also look pretty awkward unless someone makes a mod that never cuts to the protagonist's face during dialogue.
At that point, you'd also need a mod that displays the actual dialogue choice, but I'm pretty sure a few of those exist
>>336140408
>5 gigabyte limit
You're fucking with me, there's no way they think that's a good ideaBetter than Starcraft 2's data limit, I guess.
>>336135532
What the fuck is wrong with Todd's pupils? How fucking high is he?
>>336140710
>unless someone makes a mod that never cuts to the protagonist's face during dialogue.
you don't need a mod for that, it's been an option in the game menu since day 1.
Just turn off "dynamic camera" or whatever it's called and it won't switch during dialogue.
>>336140704
Nexus doesn't host porn mods, dummy.
>>336140349
nah, i was depressed a few years ago when my parents died and i seriously considered killing myself almost every day for a few months. i pulled myself out of that through therapy, a promotion at work, and help from friends and am now generally happy. my interests just changed. i'd rather spend my lazy sunday marathoning something on netflix than playing a video game for 12 hours straight
>>336140569
back a few years ago i was friends with the TL (reading steiner) for all of the sciadv VNs through some mutual friends in random IRC channels i frequented. i wish i was still in touch with them so i could answer you because i'm sure he's working on it
good luck getting your nude mods from bethesda's site, nexus isn't going anywhere m8
>console-kids think they're getting a single mod that is worthwhile
>>336140838
They host nude models and sex mods like animated prostitution.
You just have to go to Loverslab for the non-pleb shit.
>>336137197
it shouldn't be sold in the first place
this is why nobody likes valve anymore either
except literal autists who actually spend a paycheck for 3 cents worth of skins AKA content withheld behind paywalls
>>336136975
The mods are free, fucking genius.
>>336140838
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69448/?
So lads, how long do you think it will be before someone gets a team together and recreates new vegas full conversion mod in fallout 4's engine?
>>336140710
Yeah, that is what I was thinking, remove the voice and the pause between the dialogue so when you select a reply that person immediately replies, and make two different versions which will either freeze the game during the conversation (also add a goodbye option) or if you want to be like in vanilla.
>>336140820
Really? Shit, I guess I never saw it.
>>336141002
Hopefully never
>>336140949
>nobody likes valve anymore either
keep believing that
>>336141095
it's over once the fat man dies and the half life meme dies with him
>>336140949
>Has a steam account
>>336135532
What are you faggots on about? Bethesda has said literally nothing about the mods being paid.
>>336140710
>you'd also need a mod that displays the actual dialogue choice
You mean this? http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/?
I hope you youngfag neo-PC le ebin mustards are happy. It's solely YOUR FAULT that modding is monopolized and in billion dollar company hands.
I fucking hate you all.
>>336140867
Okay but why are you still here then?
Get out.
I doubt it. Steam workshop always felt worse than nexus. Certainly won't be much better when integrated into the game itself. I don't know what it is about nexus (probably the potential for recognition and elitism, or maybe it's just older and so better established) but it has the best mods.
why are 41k people still playing this POS on steam? There is absolutely nothing to the game. it is even shallower than a puddle
>>336141357
because i still play video games, and i still love certain video games. i'm ridiculously excited for zero time dilemma
>>336141175
Honestly, this reality hurts to think of.
>gabe could die and half life 3 would die with it
>valve a gaming titan would be reduced to resigning with microsoft
>steam would die along with valve
>we'd all be forced to go to green man games as game devs try to re program their games to NOT run on steam
>>336139352
The amount they paid for a mod worked on and completed by typically less than two people was insanely low. It couldn't really constitute a working wage in the least. It was a small percentage of total revenue from a mod that would only be paid once Bethesda had made a certain amount of money from the mod, first.
>>336135532
It will kill Nexus as much as the Steam Work Shop.
Absolutely fuckin' savage
>>336135532
More like bethesda has consolfied mods.
Likely everything on bethesda net will have to be compatible with xbox and ps4s.
So all the bigger mods that would brick consoles, will only be avaliable on nexus. Or lovers lab. Or whatever.
Bethesda.net is the hub that allows people to upload mods with the intention of allowing Xbox/PS4 players to use them.
It does not interfere with the Nexus which is where all the better mods that rely on F4SE will be, stop being paranoid.
>tfw Fallout 4 destroyed what little modders were left on LL for skyrim.
Now we'll never see what sex-mods we could've gotten. ;_;
>>336135532
Whatever. I only care about the porn mods anyway and that's what loverslab or the jap loli sites are for.
>>336142701
huh?
>>336135532
Nah, nexus isn't dead.
When your making mods you can save them locally and then upload them to sites like Nexus and what not.
Also most mods needs some kind of extension mod to run the good ones in the first place which I'm pretty sure the console mod menu won't let you upload or even see like Script Extender or something like that
>>336142768
Have you seen LL lately? The skyrim section is dead.
>>336135532
But will there be a mod that makes it into a good game?
>>336142703
This. Porn mods are the only good thing about Bethesda games.
>>336142936
Nigger if the wads of Skyrim porn mod content isn't enough for you then you should lay off the game before you rip your dick off.
Modding as we knew it is dead. Steam and Bethesda planted the idea into the heads of modders that they should get paid for something that was just a fun hobby. Or something to do in your spare time, or to improve a game you were very passionate for the game they love. Notice how money comes up much more now and how Nexus has modders / communities having a banner of "Always free!" like this is some very good trait. It's only a matter of time before things like Script Extenders are forced on you to be paid for to make other mods work. If that happens and you need to pirate these things I'll just find a new hobby. I've picked up making music as it stands at the moment anyway.
>>336141002
>fallout 4's engine is good
Ha, good one.
>>336135532
>nexus
>dead
Nigger you have no fucking idea how big nexus modding is
>>336140569
Apparently june or july
>>336143504
Better than NV's shitty potato engine that nobody wants to play.
>>336143931
How the fuck is Civ 5 always so high?
>>336143931
>more people playing New Vegas than KF2
HAHAHA
GET
FUCKED
TRIPWIRE
>>336143931
How the fuck is TF2 still in the top 5 on that. I know this is a discussion about Fallout 4 modding but goddamn. How? Why? What conceivable reason? I thought the game died when it went Free to play.
>>336144097
it died in terms of losing it's original fanbase, but it made it up with all the BRs and kidlets.
>>336144097
>I thought the game died when it went Free to play.
>I thought the game died when it was opened up to thousands of new players.
Uh.
>>336144097
Trading, money,fun maybeand fooling idiots to make even more money
>>336144050
Ledditors.
>>336140887
if you use nude mods you should kill yourself 2bh
>>336142362
what?
>>336143341
Shut the fuck up nigger - there's tons of unfinished mods and generally defunct mods.
I'd wager that about 70% of the mods on LL aren't even functioning.
>>336143931
>20k people playing football manager
What the fuck is steam's lists.
>>336144218
To the people who bought it or played during the beta. TF2 going F2P opened the floodgates to rampant hacking and abuse. All we got was a shitty hat and years of hell. Before valve implemented fixes that didn't come years later you had to deal with. I quit during the first launch of the MVM update because I just sick of it.
>People not playing but idling in servers with a script
>empty servers because people were too busy being on idle servers
>new weapons tied to achievements. No one would play the game since they were to busy farming the new weapons on server or achievement servers.
>bronies and furfaggotry on every community
But since this is about modding I'll put in my two cents on that. Why does this only seem to be a problem with Bethesda based games? Why don't we see this with weapon skins and other shit? DOTA 2 and CS:GO proved that to be a cashcow (maybe not entirely with skins) so why haven't they been actively trying to get the community in on that with creation contests and shit like what TF2 did a long time ago?
>>336144764
>unfinished
No shit. Almost no semi-elaborate mod in existence is ever finished, since you can just keep adding content forever. Doesn't mean they aren't perfectly usable
>70% of the mods on LL aren't even functioning.
>70%
Lmao what. 1st day modding?
>Fallout 4 have the same kind of performance issues than Arkham Knight. It does not get shit on because of that, since Bethesda always get a free pass from normal fags because of 'Muh buggy Bethesda games' experience.
>>336143931
>people play the game for the engine
More like people play the game because they have no taste, majority of players are redditors and normies.
>>336145597
Fallout 4 never dropped to 5fps, it rarely drops below 40. That's a big difference to AK.
>>336145680
>Normies
When will this meme stop
>>336141192
That's part of the problem. You either pirate or use Steam for most major releases, most of the time there's no other option that's not uplay or origin.
Can i use the CK to remove all RPG elements?
>>336145749
Fallout 4's game speed and engine physics are linked to your fps and frame limit. If you get constant dips to 40 fps (which even happen on GTX 980 ti indoors) The game feels slow like walking through molasses. It's fucking unacceptable when the game engine is 15 + years old and an updated version of an updated version of an updated version.
