Fuck, my 1.5 years old 970 memecard is now a potato
So legit, if I was thinking of upgrading sometime after those came out, would it be worth waiting for some kind of 1080ti?
>you need win10
Looking forward to some next gen goyimworks desu senpai
>>336119172
AMD will save you :)
Some of you guys are alright
Don't update your drivers in May
>>336119172
No you won't.
>>336119172
Is this true? If so fuck Microsoft
>>336119326
Kek
>>336119342
>>336119172
what's your current OS?
>>336119406
windows me
>>336118939
>GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5
More like 7GB VRAM amirite
>>336119326
What did he mean by this?
I'm curious to see how powerful Polaris is. Might just buy a new AMD card to save cash, especially if it's on par or above a 980.
>>336119328
You will if you want DX12, which every game will gradually start being over the next couple of years.
>>336119524
That shit will take years and then some. DX11 conversion took ages.
>>336119524
Valve is using Vulkan
>>336119524
>inb4 botnet shitposters
how is this video games without some sort of yield in the area for price and gaming
>>336119437
7GB is plenty to max out all games you stupid AMDcuck
>$1200
kek
>>336119602
t. pajeet
>goyvidia
who cares?
>>336119507
Polaris is said to be going after the mainstream market. So if you're looking for high end performance, Polaris is not it.
The question I face is - how much would that cost?
I mean, I have GTX 660 right now and I was planning to replace my whole machine (i5-750, 8gb RAM, P55M-UD2 mobo). Parts would probably be imported, upper budget is around 920$.
At first I wanted to get 960, but now I hear that those 1070/1080 are coming in June. That makes me think if I should wait for June to get 970. Or I should actually aim for this 1070?
As for CPU, aimed i7-6700K, by the way.
>980tis will drop to like 200 bucks
nice
i'll finally get around to building a PC.
>>336119326
Underated post desu familia
>>336119654
Fuck off, console cuck
After what happened to my 780 I'm never buying nvidia again
Please AMD
for the love of god
don't fuck it up
>>336119524
I will play all the games that existed before dx12 before I think about installing nsadows 10
>>336119721
I thought I read the other day that preliminary numbers were showing a $300 range Polaris was outperforming a GTX 980 quite well. Maybe Im just losing my mind lol
>>336119669
Sure, sure. Call me an AMDcuck and everything will be alright.
I'll keep laughing at anyone who buys an intentionally crippled design.
Goodbye, 280X.
Man I can't fucking wait for the 1080
>>336119586
>That shit will take years
It has already started, there are several games already that use DX12. Deus Ex MD is going to have full DX12 support and there are other games in development that will also have DX12 support.
In a year or two every game will have DX12 and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a DX12 only game within a year.
>>336119601
Valve cane use whatever they want, doesn't mean everyone else will use it. The majority of games will use Direct X just like they always have.
Meh, 1080 will probably be equivalent to my 980ti, call me when the 1080ti is out so I can jump on dat 16nm bandwagon.
>>336119745
>buying nvidia
what you should do is slap yourself in the face
>>336119172
I'm already using Windows 10. Linux cucks don't deserve to play video games as higher settings.
>>336119745
Get 1070. 970 is going out of stock anyways. Also if you want to stay on budget, then i7 is overkill. i5 will do really. Keep the RAM from your old PC.
>>336119692
>t.
Do you ever wonder why no one replies to you?
>>336120014
>DX12 only games
Won't happen so long as current-gen consoles are standard. You'll only see that in jewy MS games that want to promote W10.
>>336119745
get an i7, don't listen to >>336120050, there's really no reason to NOT get one. Everyone multitasks on PC, it's an inevitability, the hyperthreading is useful for a variety of things on win10 so that whole "literally nothing uses hyperthreading" shit isn't, and hasn't been true for a few years.
>>336120125
Except it has, and did happen. The middle of gen 7 was rampant with dx10 only games, but ps3/360 didn't support dx10. just cause 2 is a good example.
>>336119816
>he thinks Windows 10 is the only OS that mines data
>too stupid (or unwilling) to admit that whatever OS he is using at the moment is mining just as much data as windows 10 would be
Btw what browser and OS do you use on your smartphone dipshit-kun?
>tfw step up program
wew
>>336120192
>there's really no reason to NOT get one
For $100 more? You're better off getting a good GPU first. That has far more performance for your money than an i7.
>>336119172
>Making shit up without a source
>>336120125
AAA PC exclusives are resurfacing, XCOM 2 and total war warhammer for example
Total war is also confirmed for 64 bit and DX12, although DX12 will come post launch
>>336119172
>he doesn't use Win10
Good job holding everyone else back.
>>336119524
>he thinks devs will stop supporting dx11 suddenly
How much do they pay you to shill Windows 10 senpai?
>>336120271
Especially considering DX 12 will stop the CPU being the bottleneck and instead make the GPU more important of a choice
>>336120019
The 1070 will be on par with the 980ti. This has been the case with the 970 and the 780ti, not to mention the 2 year gap we are currently experiencing and the die shrink.
>>336120216
not him but cyanogenmod, and opera.
>>336120024
I got Radeon once. ONCE.
Never again. Frequent drivers problems, games running worse than on PCs with Nvidia cards from same class (most devs clearly optimize their games for Nvidia cards) and such.
>>336120050
I always tend to get more powerful CPU than needed, so it will last for longer. My i5-750 have like 5 or 6 years, cant really recall - and only recently it slowly start to be not enough. I exepct that i7 to last for similar time.
But what is the most possible price for 1070? 300$? 350$?
>>336119454
You are late on the cripple train.
NVDIA is suspected to cripple their older cards with the latest drivers. The reason is suspected so you will buy the new ones.
Benchmarks show that Kepler cards (the gen before maxwell) perform poorly with NVDIA Gameworks BUT performs great in games NOT using Gameworks similarly to AMD cards.
>>336119601
That company that never makes games anymore?
>>336120216
custom android and naked browser
fuck off microshill
>>336120347
You mean like how they kept supporting 9 when 10 came out? Or like how they kept supporting 10 when 11 came out?
>>336120347
Don't make fun of Pajeet. He finally landed his dream job at MS shill HQ.
>>336120090
I get plenty of (You)s kiddo.
>>336120391
So still being data mined.
It happens to everyone, whether we use a specific OS or not.
>>336119721
Thats the target, but AMD would be crazy not to target the audience with the most disposable income
>>336120508
lel, no, it doesn't. Feel better about your poor choices but i'm 100% certain of what data is being stored and sent away. If you aren't, well, that's a personal problem.
>>336120447
There is literally no evidence of this.
>>336120463
"I'm a hipster with le customized phone! I'm not being data mined, you s-s-shill!"
>>336120395
>But what is the most possible price for 1070? 300$? 350$?
Something like that. But that anon earlier also considered getting a 970 instead. I adviced him going i5/1070 over i7/970 due to GPU being a bigger gain in performance than CPU.
>>336120385
No, the 970 was equivalent with the 780, not the ti. The new shrink may make it closer to a 980ti, but we have to see, because last I read the current die is about 322mm squared, which is nowhere near what I would look at in a flagship GPU, since the die size of a 980ti is 601mm square, and the 980 398mm square.
>>336119896
>intentionally crippled
Why is it crippled you autistic fuck?
>>336118939
nigga... your 970 was potato from day 1. There was never a reason for getting a cucked card by nvidia when the 390 was the same price and does everything better.
>>336120271
I can easily replace the GPU when needed - it is only matter of buying new one, putting it in right place and installing drivers.
When I need to replace CPU, I usually have to replace the mobo as well, not only because of different socket.
I must think ahead, especially since games wont be my only use for my main PC.
>>336120368
I dont expect people to suddenly drop Dx11 support.
Hell, a lot of devs still cling to Dx9.
>>336120563
Refer to
>>336120598
>>336120669
This is a fair argument. Changing CPU is a hassle.
>>336120395
>Never again. Frequent drivers problems, games running worse than on PCs with Nvidia cards from same class (most devs clearly optimize their games for Nvidia cards) and such.
except what you just described is nvidia cards
and it's your fault for running the superfluous jewworks features
Oh boy, can't wait to spend 1000 bucks on a new graphics card and have my light bill go up so I can play some console ports that look .5 percent better
Epin for the win.
Gamers are the most retarded idiots on the face of the planet, pc gamers are even more retarded
>>336120192
>Everyone multitasks on PC, it's an inevitability, the hyperthreading is useful for a variety of things on win10
B U L L S H I T
U
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S
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>>336119524
Because every modern game uses Dx11
Oh wait they dont, faggot.
I'm alright with my 970, but I think I might just do AMD next time. There hasn't been a single game that used an Nvidia exclusive tech that wasn't unoptimized as shit. I thought a 970 at 1080p would be able to handle them even when unoptimized, but I was wrong.
Have to turn hairworks down in TW3, have to turn Flex off in KF2 (though I am usually playing on a modded server with more abundant monsters)
Literally what games do you play on this thing? Aside from gta 5 I can't think of anything that needs it
>>336120608
I-I am n-not that anon, anon?
Bought a 3,5GB cripple last november since it was an ok deal (270€ instead of 350€), but I'm definitely going to sell it by summer and get one of the new cards, preferably AMD.
But nothing is set in stone, so who knows.
>>336120582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hImoox6qyzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKk63TajS6M
15 fps loss
>it's a "nvidia users can't tone down the tessellation to improve performance" episode
how does it feel to be cucked so hard?
>>336118939
i still got a gtx 460 son
And yet all these graphics cards do is fight poor optimization
PC is in a shitty place at the moment
>buying the first cards of a new archetecture
Whatever happened to that rumored card with 32 Gbs?
>>336120598
this backpedaling is spectacular
>>336120824
>A GTS 450 runs like shit in a modern game
Wow amazing
>>336120014
>In a year or two every game will have DX12 and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a DX12 only game within a year.
Win 10 exclusive shit from MS only.
Guys, remember than Polaris 10 is the 480 and 470. It's not going Ti offer 980 Ti performance.
AMD is just better, why would you willingly fall for another on of Nvidia's scams?
>>336118939
>tfw I'm still running a 660ti
I don't have a face. I can't remember the last time my PC had trouble running anything at 60fps.
>>336120889
kill yourself
will prices drop then?
I was thinking about getting a gtx960, should I wait for the price drop and get something better?
>>336120873
Why not? It's just going to be efficiency improvements in the 2nd gen and onward.
>>336119524
>every game
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support#Upcoming_games_or_upcoming_support_of_DX12
Windows 10 for DirectX 12 is a meme
>>336120465
>he thinks dx10 isn't supported
>>336120950
The 960 is attrocious for the performance you get.
>>336120824
>hotfix
If they're crippling old cards intentionally, why would they hotfix them?
>First gen cards of a new architecture and die size
Not in a million years, see you at the 1180.
>>336120761
The majority do, when are you trying to make out it wont be the same for DX12?
It is how it has always been, the new replaces the old. DX12 will replace DX11 for the majority of game, especially AAA games.
You can post your epic shill memes all you want but it wont stop it from happening.
>>336120949
No thanks. Educate yourself.
>>336120932
>660ti
Same here, got it years ago, and this card keeps surprising me. I wouldn't expect to play GTA5 on very high with it, but it just works. The only game that gave it a real trouble was TW:Attila, and it still runs decent.
>>336121023
Actually, why? Please explain.
is this polaris?
when is HBM?
>>336120950
>I was thinking about getting a gtx960
STOP
>>336120995
why? i get gtx 960 Asus 4gb and it works well
i'm not AAA game player though, the only game that count as one was GTA V and it works wonders
>>336120990
>Not getting 10 for that sweet sweet DX12 emulation improvements
>>336121064
Polaris is AMD, Nvidias is Pascal
>>336120824
Nvidia dropped 4xx series support ages ago.
Why do you expect them to support 6 year old cards?
>>336120040
The fuck are you on with "linux cucks"?
Do you really think that upgrading to 10 from 7,8,8.1 Is a thing everyone want to do?
>>336120950
>nvidia
>prices drop
Besides if you're poor you buy an AMD card that's kind of the rule.
>>336121075
960 is pretty darn good, it runs alot of today's games amazingly. Hefty upgrade from my 580.
>>336121064
HBM is on neither Pascal nor Polaris this year, it's all GDDR5X.
Pascal's titan equivalent may get it next year, same with a new Fury X equivalent.
HBM was too much of a power hog (mandatory water cooling on the Fury X) to use again for the mainstream cards and HBM2 is having yield issues right now, so you don't be seeing it on cards for a while.
>>336120776
>Have to turn hairworks down in TW3
You fucking wot? I'm >>336120739 and I played Witcher 3 effortlessly with goyworks all the way up. The only thing you should do on ANY build when playing witcher is drop down folliage visibility from Ultra to High (makes literally no visual difference but you gain like 5~10 fps) and dial Shadows all the way to Low (again, literally no difference whatsoever except you gain almost 5~10 fps as well). Solid 60 all the way through.
You're not using some stock reference POS version of it, are you? Also, overclock your card.
$300 490 when?
>>336118939
>mfw my 3 year old 770 4gb still going stronk
fuck nvidia drivers lately though.
>>336121102
It's shit for the money.
>>336120994
It often isn't. Believe me ;_;/
>>336121075
Why everyone react like that to 960?
I was thinking about getting it too, in order to save money (970 cost 1.5x more, at least for me).
>still have my 7950 GTX
>still have my 8800
>Still have my 9800
>nvidia went to the XXX style to avoid XXXXX
>nvidia has now gone full circle and is releasing a XXXX
So... the fuck happens when it gets to the 4-5-6 series. Like, in 5 years when the nvidia 6080 comes out, do we call it the nvidia 6000 series 2021? or do we call the old 6000 series 6000 classic.
>>336120869
More like ENABLE poorer optimization.
>hey everyone is upgrading their hardware
>thanks god, now we don't have to optimize for shit anymore
This is literaly the thought that goes on the mind of modern devs.
>not HBM2
WHAT YOU GONNA DO, WHEN AMD LAYS THE SMACKDOWN AND GIVES YOU A HBM2 12GB CARD WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF A GTX 980TI FOR $299. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>336121121
P L A N N E D O B S O L E S C E N C E
>>336120889
>>336121121
>nvidia cucks literally trying to deny proof that nvidia gimps older cards with shit drivers
is there a more sad and delusional group?
>>336121185
>fuck nvidia drivers lately though.
And another idiot doesn't know the simple fix.
Only one driver was fucked, the WHQL flag was incorrect and windows overwrote half the inf files with standard windows VGA files. These drivers cannot be removed with a non-administrator account. The following drivers are all fine, so long as you either didn't install the busted driver, or you did a safe mode DDU to remove the windows ones.
Kind of a slap to the face for, just ordered duel gtx980s
>>336120990
Are you retarded? That is now, over the next year more and more games will use DX12, in two years time the majority of them will be DX12.
>>336120994
It isn't DX11 took over from 10. Most games are now DX11, no one uses 10 anymore.
>>336120873
They need to be the first ones to put their shiny new card specs in their forum sigs, Anon.
>>336121286
lol all my old gpu's shat themselves
guess i just gamed too hard
>>336121134
if they don't they're idiots, literally only benefits for upgrading.
>>336121345
>in two years time the majority of them will be DX12
>imfuckingplying
Just how fucking new are you?
>>336121302
>AND GIVES YOU A HBM2 12GB CARD WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF A GTX 980TI FOR $299.
Wake up from AMDrone delusions.
>>336121302
No HBM2 until next year though
I just hope they don't drop Maxwell driver support in like 2 months. Dammit Nvidia, stop being such assholes!
>>336121310
Step 1: Provide legitimate proof.
>>336121221
i got it for like 220$ or something
kinda want 970 but the gap is fucking huge
also
>updating drivers
i never updated my driver since i read tons of horror stories about it
as long as the game i currently play works fine i dont give a shit
>>336121260
Not him but I own one, i'd only suggest it if you've already got an old card, before this I had a 550ti.
>>336121310
>card is shit by modern standards
>you expect to run modern games on it
Blame PS1 for not being able to play PS3 games, too.
>>336121465
>I just hope they don't drop Maxwell driver support in like 2 months.
When has this ever happened?
My ancient laptop with a 230M in it just got a driver update a couple weeks ago.
>>336121178
>HBM is on neither Pascal nor Polaris this year, it's all GDDR5X
HMB will be in Polaris, just not all their cards because "it's expensive"
>>336121286
>mfw we're literally going back to using the GTX 9800 in a few years
Feels good
>>336121310
They don't support 4xx series cards anymore.
The drivers aren't optimized for them anymore.
Maybe you should stop being a poorfag that is still using a 6 year old low end card expecting it to run modern games we.
>irredeemable poorfag
>just replaced myGT240with 960
I am an idiot and fuck this life.
Well, at least I would be able to play Overwatch and DaS3 until summer.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-8oaC4-MIHgcHhIa1BKY0JNU00/view
>>336120873
>>336121347
So, when can we expect an optimized version to come out? I'm new to the world of high-end GPUs and need an upgrade sometime this year.
>>336121474
retard
>>336121493
>I don't update my drivers
Are you retarded?
>>336120932
>>336121054
I have 770 and I can't play Batman:AK, Just Cause 3 and Quantum Break without fps going full CINEMATIC 24fps.
>>336121331
>using latest drivers on older cards
WEW look at this nvidiot
they keep nerfing their older cards performance.
>>336121286
They're just gonna start naming cards abstract concepts.
So 10 years later we're gonna get the Nvidia Forgiveness
>>336121515
If you're going to discuss PC hardware, keep up with the news. As of March 25th AMD has 0 orders for HBM2 from either Samsung or Hynix, they are not releasing a card this year with HBM2.
>>336119524
>bf devs and valve are shilling vulkan, as are ios, android and macfags and linuxfags
no, goy, buy windows 10, we won't steal your info and your baby's foreskin
>>336121493
>kinda want 970
Why?
Nobody wants that card anymore.
>mfw bought GTX 770 3 weeks before the 970 released.
hey, at least I wasn't cuck by the 3.5gb meme. 8GB HERE I COME.
>>336121302
You do know that nvidia has laid their hands on hbm 2 first, right?
Also,
>300 dollars
lmao, with 300 dollars you barely even get a 390 and you expect them to sell brand new expensive tech for this? AMD drones more delusional than nintendrones, holy shit
>gddr5
wow its fucking nothing
>>336121403
How new are you?
When DX10 came out the majority of games within a year were DX10.
When DX11 came out within a year most games were DX11 and still are.
Tell me again how DX12 is somehow different?
So, to sum up - if Im about to buy new PC around summer, should I get:
a) 960
b) 970
c) 1070
d) Some AMD card, but I dont follow their naming code, so have no idea which one have proper performance to price ratio
>>336121565
>State facts
>HURR NVIDIOT LMAO SHILL
As much as a monopoly will hurt, I smile every time I see your 18% and shrinkign market share, I can't wait for you AMD cultists to off yourself when they finally go bust.
>>336121559
i only update driver if the game i played have problems, otherwise i dont want the problem risking wasting time troubleshooting it because nvidia fucks up
and considering the game i play is shit like neptunia games, i never have problem
Don't forget, if you have Kepler card - don't update drivers.
>>336121534
dont worry i got rid of a 290 because it was a unreliable artifact housefire with no drivers and replaced it with a770 4gb ocjust before the 970 came out
>>336121501
>>336121531
not even him, but are you guys serious or just pretending to be retarded?
if a card runs a game fine and then loses 30 fps after a driver update, there's nothing to discuss. it's planned obsolescence.
>>336121653
Yea
hey guys pc noob here. i have a question
if i buy R9 Fury X right now, can i crossfire it with new one? (polaris something idk)
>>336121338
>duel gtx 980s
DUAL
IT'S
DUAL
D U A L
D U A L
U
A
L
WITH AN A
NOT A FUCKING E
D U A L
U
A
L
WHY IS IT THAT EVERY FUCKING IDIOT WHO FALLS FOR THE MULTI-GPU MEME CAN'T EVEN FUCKING SPELL THIS RIGHT EVERYTIME
>nvidia has hbm2 ready
>let's just rebrand gddr5 but with an X on it ;)
JUST
>>336121636
Are you me?
>>336121659
who cares ill probably get a hmb2 card next year from nvidia if they drop the prices.
>>336121647
No one used Dx10.
>>336121632
because 970's base is 4gb while 960 is 2gb, i decided to go with 960 4gb route though
i'm glad i did it because GTA V eat tons of it
>all that vram
>not a single developer will properly use it
back to /g/
>>336121710
Yea for what option?
>>336121632
It's a great card for the dough.
But there is no reason to get one with the new series coming up.
>>336121676
>Nvidia fucks up
>Trouble shooting
They fucked up the drivers once or maybe twice, personally i've never had problems.
And troubleshooting? You can just revert your drivers to an older version you retard.
>>336121647
Holy shit you are a gigantic fucking idiot.
DX 10 never even took off you fucking retard. Nobody gave a fucking shit about it and people went straight from 9 to 11.
Conversion to 11 took fucking ages and we STILL have a crapload of dx9 games even to this very day, like every single fucking mmo in existence for example.
Mcfucking kill yourself you retarded millennial baby.
>>336121565
There is literally no evidence of this
>>336121653
I bought a 960 recently, it runs fine. I don't really care about maxing out graphics though.
>>336121715
>>336121712
>Crossfire
AMD is going to drop crossfire soon apparently but even if they dont i would not bother if u was you
>4gb hmb1
>duh i dont need that much
enjoy not been able to run max textures at 1080p or above
>GGDR5
JUST FUCK MY GPU UP
>>336121681
>2fps
oh holy shit it's a conspiracy someone call CNN.
nigga if he opened minesweeper before that test it could have dropped it 2fps.
>>336120882
You're still being data mined it doesn't matter what faggy OS you're using, but keep trying to act like the NSA only targets le windows 10 meme. You sperglord children are insatiable.
>>336120892
quantum break (shit game i know) but is dx12 only. And i think even Killer Instinct is dx12 only
Is there an estimated price range?
>>336121792
Get off, /g/ will tell everyone to get back to /v/, because ">games".
I tried asking /g/ myself about building PC, I know.
>>336121786
That's what I thought when I got 770 with 2 gigs of vram. And then a ton of unoptimised shit from consoles, that have a shitton of memory, came out.
>>336121698
>if a card runs a game fine and then loses 30 fps after a driver update
How retarded are you?
What part of Nvidia not supporting 4xx cards anymore do you not understand?
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-to-end-driver-support-for-legacy-products-up-to-dx10.html
Performance drops because the drivers are no longer optimized for 4xx cards.
>>336121396
>literally only benefits for upgrading
Are you joking or do you actually think that?
>>336121748
>I'll pretend Nvidia did this despite AMD also having GDDRX because I'm a good little AMDrone.
>>336121782
>970's base is 4gb
More like 3,2GB. My fucking card starts stuttering at around 3,3GB because I got my HDTV hooked up that also eats around 300MB.
>>336121807
>It's a great card for the dough.
It's a terrible card for the standard price of 350€. Same goes for the R9 390, in case you want to call me an AMDshitter or something like that.
Neither is worth that much money, but the 970 even less so.
>>336121748
>>nvidia has hbm2 ready
>Shield Yields
>Ready
Look at this keplercuck
>>336121856
>Not having GDDR5XXX
>>336121869
Like I said, there is literally no evidence
>>336121861
nice mlp picture faggot
did microsoft provide you with it?
So complete newfag at this.
When is AMD's new line of cards coming out, and are they looking better or worse than Nvidia's new line of cards?
>ITT: Enlightened gamers that won't fall for my hot, power hungry, inefficient AMD hardware because they understand Nvidia is the way it's meant to be played
NOOOO! JUST BUY A FURY!
MY MARKETSHARE!
>>336121868
Why are replying to me with that?
>>336121748
GDDR5X is an invention of JEDEC and AMD is using it too you fucking retard.
>>336121647
>When DX10 came out the majority of games within a year were DX10.
>When DX11 came out within a year most games were DX11 and still are.
Why are you stating things you know literally nothing about? Why do people do this? I don't understand.
>>336121872
Probably the same as 980ti and 970.
>>336121818
>DX 10 never even took off
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_10_support
>>336121859
This is why they get away with it, retards like you don't care about 1-2 fps being slowly taken from you with each update.
>>336121807
>They fucked up the drivers once or maybe twice
Holy shit, look at this retard and laugh. IF THE GAME YOU PLAY WORKS, DON'T UPDATE NVIDIA DRIVERS. Ever.
>>336122052
Or maybe "retards like him" understand the concept of margin of error because he passed 4th grade, unlike you.
>>336121997
>MY MARKETSHARE!
One thing that always cracks me up is that amd has like, 15% and declining market share now? Yet whenever a game comes out the steamforums get outrageously FLOODED by people crying with a plethora of issues and they have an amd card every single time, despite the marketshare.
Speaks loads about the quality of this crap.
>>336121969
>being this assblasted
>>336121974
AMD is shit for poorfags, you get what you pay for - shit hardware, overheating, loud, no drivers, just shit through and through, it's no wonder NVIDIA holds almost all of the gpu market
there are A LOT of AMD shills on 4chan though, especially on v and g, it's hilarious, they will tell you shit like
>hurrr it's your fault you play gameworks games(literally all of them)
>hurrr amd drivers are great
>muh polaris
>>336121893
How retarded are you? AMD cards always work the same or better after you update your drivers.
NVIDIA on the other hand either runs worse or literally explodes your card. The fact that you're even attempting to defend it is mind boggling.
http://www.lazygamer.net/gaming-news/pc-gaming/be-warnednvidias-latest-driver-is-destroying-some-graphics-cards/
>>336122025
So like 350$ or were the prices higher on launch
>>336121893
Why not stop shilling, it's not just the 4xx series, even newer cards are getting gimped.
>inb4 proof
If you want proof go and google it, it's actually very easy to find it.
>inb4 amd shill
No, I'm not shilling for amd, I have a 750ti and I've always bought nvidia, until now, since I find out r9 390x beats a fucking titan in cycles and that nvidia gimps its cards. I'm waiting for the new amd cards to come and the old ones prices to drop and I'll buy a r9 390.
>>336122095
It seems you just passed it. Welcome to the 5th grade, retard.
>>336121930
It's the best card for the money. The rest of the world disagrees.
>>336122075
I've never had a problem. Ever.
Are you fucking retarded?
>>336122112
yes yes! it's the bad hardware! not our gameworks software built into the game! AMD is bad! yes! buy nvidia!
>>336122052
2 FPS from 44 is a 4% variance, in a game without a fully scripted 100% repeatable testing methodology for consistency, and in fact has many atmospheric variables alone that can play on performance between averages taken from identical locations. This falls well under the definition of margin of error.
Stop being so prideful in your stupidity.
>>336120336
Using Linux. Awaiting Mantle
>I still have my nvidia MX lying around
>>336122037
>it was totally a standard guyze! There were a total of 40 games that used it!
Thanks for proving my point.
>>336122160
>AMD is shit for poorfags
how did this meme started? all gpus cost exactly the same from both teams
>>336121974
Probably before nvidia's
they dont have yield issues and are due out early next month
>>336122037
DX12 is barely out and has tonnes of support
Will be alot of games out this year and next
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support
>>336122174
A 980ti goes for 6-800 and a 970 for 3-400.
Something in that range is usually the norm.
Two choices:
>update to new cards
>update to win10
>lost ability to play many games, especially older titles
or
>stay with pre-1000 gen cards
>stay with pre-Win10
>still be able to play every game other than a few win10 exclusives
Wew hard choice. Eventually even the 900 series cards will be so old we'll have to update and get win10, but that's still 4-6 years away. There's no reason to lose the ability to play so many game and software that's fundamentally incompatible with windows 10 just for a 1000 series card.
>>336122037
>not even 50 games
Hahahah, holy fuck.
>some games like Lost Planet 2 support only 9 and 11
I'm dead.
>>336121681
Your ggraph also shows drivers increasing the FPS as well, really hurts your argument.
>>336122298
>lost ability to play many games, especially older titles
Are you retarded?
>>336122242
Go home nvidia marketer shill your drunk
>>336122197
>It's the best card for the money.
Absolutely not.
There is only one good price-performance card in the current lineup of both companies and that is the R9 380. 380X if you can get it cheap.
>>336122271
no, they don't
>>336122197
Fine I'll spoonfeed your retarded ass
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/38733-The-Witcher-3-Kepler-GPU
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/402403-did-nvidia-purposely-gimp-700-series-cards-with-the-last-few-drivers/
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/831639/geforce-700-600-series/nvidia-is-deliberately-downgrading-kepler-gpus-performance-in-favor-of-maxwell-
They can't even keep this shit off their own forums.
>>336122236
>i-it's nvidia's fault they didn't do amd's homework for them!
Premium KEK.
Amd is literally the DINDU NUFFIN of brands.
>>336122298
>new cards won't be compatible with older OS
>I won't be able to just have Windows 7 as my main OS with a partition just for Windows 10 exclusive games
>>336122167
HOLY SHIT IT IS LIKE YOU ARE ACTUALLY IGNORING THE FACT THAT THE DRIVERS ARE NO LONGER MADE TO SUPPORT 4XX CARDS THEREFORE RESULTING IN WORSE PERFORMANCE THAN DRIVERS THAT WERE RELEASED BEFORE SUPPORT WAS DROPPED
>>336121331
Which driver had this problem?
>>336121286
8800GT master race 4 lyf, 2007 was the only year to upgrade
>>336121681
>Standing in game in a field, using a single screenshot of a fraps counter instead of averaging a period of gameplay using fraps own FPS graph tool
>In a game where cloud weather patterns alone can knock a couple FPS off your performance
You cannot seriously be this retarded.
What is the limiting factor on GPUs now days?
Memory bandwidth? Memory capacity? Or is it just straight up transistor density?
>>336122298
>>lost ability to play many games, especially older titles
Why? I play all my old games much better compatability than 7
Where did this meme come from?
>Stay win pre 10
have fun having no DX12+ support EVER
maybe vulkan will get ports idk but judging from how little ogl and mantle games there are currently dont bet on it
>>336122249
Mantle died, Vulkan is where AMD put their interest. And so did a ton of companies.
>>336122370
yes, they do
390-970 =300
980-390x= 400
980ti-furyx=600
>>336122426
364.47
If you ever installed it, every single driver you ever install from now on will have the same issues because the isntaller can't overwrite the default VGA driver inf files left over from this broken version.
If you did install it, use DDU from safe mode to wipe it clean.
>>336119524
Good job, Rakesh!
0.1 USD (500,0000 Rupees) have been deposited into your bank account!
>>336122236
yeah there's no way that amd, a poorer company with a way smaller R&D and manufacturing department, would make an inferior product.
it just doesn't make sense.
>>336122409
Yet, you can get better performance out of a 9800GT, an older card with even older drivers. Do you think the GPU just suddenly stops working when new games come out?
>>336122451
>What is the limiting factor on GPUs now days?
Console ports
>>336122354
>>336122471
There's a lot of games that just don't run with windows 10, graphics issues. Just run through some of GOG's forums and you'll find so many game stickies about win10 issues. I'm sure eventually the problems will be worked out, but until then, why bother? It's not imperative to switch to win10 right now.
>>336122379
There isn't a single shred of evidence on any of these posts.
0/10
>>336122451
>What is the limiting factor on GPUs now days?
Thermal envelope
its why the Fury's come with watercoolers stock
We are hitting the limits of modern silicone.
I guess after this gen they can either go dual-quad core on the same die fully native or come up with something else.
>>336122521
but nvidia with a larger R&D Department fuck up everytime!
HAHAHAHAH!
>>336122471
>have fun having no DX12+ support EVER
Enjoy :^D
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-8oaC4-MIHgcHhIa1BKY0JNU00/view
>>336122298
every time someone mentions not being able to play old games on w10 but not once has someone named a single game that doesn't work.
>>336122619
>We are hitting the limits of modern silicone.
First of all
>Silicone
Second of all, we're not even push to pushing silicon on GPUs, they're miles behind the issues CPUs are having.
>mfw winslaves
Damn it feels good to be PS4 master race
>>336122052
I'm pretty sure 2fps falls well within the margin of error.
>>336122585
I don't even see a point of switching to win10, except "exclusivity" for games.
I wish I could go back to winxp, but many softwares I use don't support it anymore, fuck microshit for making this supposedly new releases.
>>336121712
>crossfire or SLI
When will people stop falling for this shit?
>>336122610
EXCEPT FOR EVERY FUCKING BENCHMARK THEY POST YOU STUPID FUCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imhpe5KNIW0
was literally the first thing in the first link.
>>336122639
>Le epic registry hack
>It actually doesn't enable DX12, it just spoofs your DX version and allows DX12 games to run (broken) on Windows 7
>>336122689
Top keke my fellow redditor, loving the pepe meme!
>>336120824
So I should get older drivers for my GTX 770?
Why would everyone suggest that you should update your drivers often then?
