Dark Souls lore thread!
what is this? a comic prequel?
>Solaire being anything but an eccentric nobody
>>336109163
Yes, strong and independent female knight is main character
>american story telling and lore building
top kek
>>336109237
Most of you fags already play a female character so you should have no problems with that.
>>336109468
>wanting to stare at a mans ass
>>336109468
I do
But my cute cleric never complains about misogyny of others characters and just tried her best to link the flame and save the world
>>336109572
Why are you staring at his ass, anon?
>>336109572
>he spends all his time, staring at his character's ass
I'm sure you do bud, especially in DaS.
>>336109672
because they haven't invented 2nd person gaming yet
>>336109468
a female lead in a comic is 99% of the time a good reason to not read it since it's pretty much guaranteed to have bad writing
>2016
>not being a ripped af STR character on your first playthrough
>>336109572
>I can't stop staring at dudes asses if they are presented anywhere on the screen
>I like to dress up cute girls
>I like to roleplay as cute girls
Do you have something to tell us, anon?
>>336109841
nice projection. got any das3 lore to share that you've headcanoned into true facts?
>>336109468
do I get popcorn to enjoy with that projection?
>>336109841
Hey anon, just saying that I think he's a fag and don't appreciate you lumping him in with those who enjoy playing dress-up with cute girls.
>>336109907
>le projection meme
I can't seem to find your argument, cyber transexual.
>>336109907
That's not what projecting is, anon
>>336109572
Are you gay or somethin?
>>336109112
>lore
>>336109240
Yhorm did a thing and when he became a Lord of Cinder for some reason the Profane flame happened and only burns human flesh.
It's more like Izalith but it has no clear origin like the witch of izalith trying to recreate the first flame which went chaotic and spawned demons.
![Mignola+Wonder+Con+1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vG1eejO.jpg "Mignola+Wonder+Con+1[1].jpg")
>>336109112
>you know realize that this comic could theoretically have been written and drawn by Mignola instead
Truly, the darkest timeline.
>>336110389
The problem was that he wasn't human. Just like gwyn his underlings got burned by the first flame. Only they weren't badass knights and ended up semi-molten.
>A strange weapon found among malformed inhabitants of the Profaned Capital.
>The Profaned Flame was triggered by the curse of these women, relatives of a certain oracle, but despite their culpability, they went on living, without any cares.
Opinions?
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Eleonora
>>336109112
>that fucking dialog
>mid-battle
>in what is ostensibly a Dark Souls product
Holy fuck I hate it when westerners adapt japanese shit.
>>336109112
this is shit, Murrica cant make decent comic to save their ass since they swim in their capeshit for too long
I rather have some manga artist, better pacing, better fight scene, moods, world building etc
>>336110823
>>336110883
At least it triggered you weebs, so we got something good out of it.
reminder that this will be DLC
reminder that this is post-firelink after all the black shit drained out of the sun
notice the winged serpents as well.
>>336110790
Whether the "women" the item talks about are the Handmaidens or the hand-ogres is iffy. If they're the Hand-Ogres, then they must be Daughters of Manus - note the resemblence to his hand, and it calls them "relatives of a certain oracle" - the only oracle in dark souls being Alsanna.
>>336111162
Or maybe it's just concept art that was used to advertise the game.
>>336111162
Looks like a good excuse for a Guts build
>>336111162
>notice the winged serpents as well.
Those a mosquitos anon.
>>336109572
I'm typically not staring at my character's ass when I'm playing, I'm looking at the game. I don't need to wank at the thought of my character at every given opportunity. I have the internet for that.
It's okay if you want to play dress up, anon. It is 2016 after all.
>>336111292
You're literally ignoring the point they're trying to refute.
Lords of Cinder are not confirmed for having linked the fire, they're just kindling as you said.
"Ahhh, another one, roused from the sleep of death?
Well, you're not alone. We Unkindled are worthless. Can't even die right. Gives me Conniptions.
And they'd have us seek the Lords of Cinder, and return them to their moulding thrones.
But we're talking true legends with the mettle to link the fire. We're not fit to lick their boots.
Don't you think?" - Hawkwood
>legends with the mettle to link the fire
Find me one reference where it confirms the Lords linked the fire. Just one. Nobody has managed to provide that yet.
Can someone please tell me why there is a snarling, wheezing growl noise where yoel is. I tried hitting all the walls and none were illusions. What's back there?
Even after yoel died it's still there
>>336111759
ludleth linked the flame at the very laest
>>336111759
>The Lords of Cinder linked the First Flame, and this Greatsword was wielded by their deific manifestation. This coiled sword, found thrust in the bonfire, existed long before the throneless lords themselves.
>The Lords of Cinder linked the First Flame
>The Lords of Cinder linked the First Flame
>The Lords of Cinder linked the First Flame
Now fuck off with your headcanon
>>336111882
Pretty sure it's just the hollows outside.
>>336111759
>"Oh, thou’rt unkindled, and a seeker of Lords. I am Ludleth of Courland. Look not in bewilderment as I say… I linked the fire long ago, becoming a Lord of Cinder. If substantiation be thy want, set thine eyes upon my charred corse. This sad cadav’r. No need to be coy, have a closer look."
>>336112008
I killed them too, and it's also present in dark firelink.
>>336110823
Have you read manga?
There's a fuck ton of dialogue mid combat.
The recent Captain America movie even made fun that comics have lots of mid combat dialogue
>>336111990
JESUS CHRIST THANK YOU
Watch people go through mental gymnastics explaining "b-but that doesn't mean X linked it!!!"
>>336111990
It's different lords of cinder
>>336112132
the only lord that's confirmed that didn't actually link or even try was lothric
>>336109112
So, is it decent or is this just ironic shitposting?
>>336109112
Can anybody explain why paneling like this in most manga?
The only time I see something like this is from Hentai and doujins.
As in some actions and objects "leak" past their panel.
>>336112186
Yeah but him not linking it is a major plot point.
Everyone else did link it
>>336109112
Is that chick undead?
Is this canon?
So undead can give birth?
>>336112186
He never was a lord in the first place
Even Emma in the church tell you to persuade him to BECOME Lord of Cinder, meaning he isn't one yet
>>336112083
well if it's in dark firelink too then it must of been there for a long time
>>336112083
Could be a bug or Yoel might be haunting your game bro
Can someone explain what the Pus of Man or whatever the Las Plagas things are?
>>336112403
Who?
>>336112403
>Pus of Man
the what now
>>336111882
There's an undead dog outside.
>>336112403
>>336112471
the enemies that just explode with 'humanity rats' out of their bodies and shit like Iudex.
You'd think they're important but then, nah
The soul of cinder is a combination of previous fire linkers so why didn't the soul have any of the lords of cinder as his moveset?
>>336112445
>>336112471
It's the name the wiki (yes, I know) uses to describe the black serpent things that pop out of some enemies. What are those things? is there anything in the game at all that gives any insight as to what they are? I still find them to be really weird and don't fit into the game at all.
>>336110823
If it were a manga instead she'd be screaming the names of her battle arts mid-fight
>>336111162
probably just concept art, anon
>>336112558
>>336112582
Signs of so called "age of men", in the lord of hollows ending everyone will be like this
Even dragons are corrupted by it
Basically abyss outbreak
>>336110823
>>336110883
>>336110983
Western adaptations of Japanese shit is fucking hilarious and so out of place.
It could be more absurd though, like that fucking comic of Saya no Uta. Christ knows what they were thinking with that thing.
>>336112682
Where's that western not-Jojo when I need it
>>336112682
Doesn't help that original saya no uta already was garbage
>>336112564
Can you imagine fighting the same 4 bosses AGAIN for the final boss of the series?
>>336112681
>Even dragons are corrupted by it
No, there are Dragon parts coming out of the regular Pus.
They're how the Dragons were made.
>>336112730
this thing
>>336112582
Abyss corruption looks like it.
>>336112732
I never read it, but the concept alone for the adaptation is bizarre.
>Let's adapt this loli-orientated visual novel into a comic for normal western audiences
What the actual fuck was the thought process? Seriously, I'd like to know.
>>336109836
I did STR build with a qt on my first playthrough. Astora GS is amazing with its range.
>>336112806
>>336112806
kek
>>336112806
>>336112890
This is amazing
>>336112806
>>336112890
This is both fantastic and terrible at the same time. Why does it even exist?
>>336109206
>Solaire
>not Gwyns firstborn in disguise
Epic, simply epic
>>336112403
Humanity starting to go wild like it did with Manus.
Reminder that the age of Dark is a Serpent lie and a shithole.
Reminder that the age of Fire is a broken mess that should have ended years ago.
Reminder that hollows and giants becoming trees is the world's way of telling us that the age of ancient should start anew.
Dragons dindu nuffin wrong, do the right choice, make Lordran great again. A land of grey crags, archtrees and everlasting Dragons is a paradise.
>>336113037
Aldia please stop posting and go back to searching for a cure
>>336112790
>They're how the Dragons were made.
That has to be the most retarded thing I've read in a long time.
>>336112681
The blue cleric armor says that the coverings on their backs are meant to avoid becoming seedbeds for the coming dark, which seems to be the thing that infested Gundyr. Not sure what that all.means lore-wise, since they dropped those kind of enemies and tone after a while. Would that the dregs of humanity were somehow involved.
Also, am I the only one that assumed that 'Belated Champion Gundyr' was the champion who came too late for the fire keeper, and spawned the story mentioned in the Fire Keeper Soul item?
>>336110389
Be willing to be my next paycheck that Yhorm tried to extinguish the Profaned Flame by burning it in the Kiln as fuel for Linking the Fire. Only, it didn't work, and the Fire returned to the city and destroyed it.
>>336113004
I've not got around to playing DSIII yet, but did they add anything to Andre's character? He was originally supposed to be Gwyn's Firstborn during the early design stages of DSI, wasn't he? Did they actually go ahead with that at all?
>>336113037
Don't forget the skull and bullying Seath. Shit's important.
>>336112942
>>336112912
It's something.
>>336113148
>Did they actually go ahead with that at all?
All scrapped. Just a Blacksmith. Maybe an old dude but nothing particularly special.
>>336113148
Andre is just a blacksmith now.
>>336112564
It would have been neat if he summoned a spectral Yhorm's hand as an attack.
Maybe he could have used Aldricht's arrow attack and other shit too.
>>336113037
>make Lordran great again
You can't
Only fire can keep abyss away, without it everything will be lovecraftian shithole, not cute and light lovecraftian shithole like bloodborne, but actual lovecraftian shithole
And you can't eradicate abyss without giving literally every, even smallest parts of the dark soul to the flame
Maybe if you find something else that can keep await abyss
Why do the pilgrims have turtle shells?
>>336113037
What about the age of deep sea
what about whatever age is ushered in the Usurping ending
>>336113202
>>336113209
Fair enough. Probably for the best, really.
>>336112681
>age of man
>Abyss monstrosities consuming the world
Anon stop
>>336113148
Andre is just a blacksmith.
Solairefags got BTFO because it turns out that Gwyn's firstborn had a boner for dragon pussy so he said fuck this and became king of dragons with is dick.
Andre is just a good blacksmith and Solaire was a literally who
>>336113195
>black guy has a fire stand
This fucking comic
>>336113132
>Would that the dregs of humanity were somehow involved.
Dregs are just ritual things for deep believers, like ears for the darkmoon
They are heaviest parts of human body so they reach deep faster in the water, something like this
>>336113202
Being fair he seems to be the same exact Andre from Dark Souls 1, judging by his comment when you bring the giant's coal. That's something in his favor, at least. Still unsure why there was the petrified version of him near Moonlight Butterfly though.
>>336113362
miyazaki literally said they have no lore, they're just placeholders for the embers since they couldn't make a better model in time.
>>336113362
Maybe Andre is a golem or something. Somebody just wanted to mass produce blacksmiths.
>>336113362
>Still unsure why there was the petrified version of him near Moonlight Butterfly though.
Devs confirmed that was more of an in-world hint of where to take the Ember. A bad hint at that. Literally nothing.
>>336113289
Well yes, guess who can travel in the abyss freely without being fucked by it? Right, serpents!
Who wants age of man to come faster? Right, serpents!
What a funny coincidence
>>336113460
>Well yes, guess who can travel in the abyss freely without being fucked by it?
Anyone with a nice new ring?
>>336112806
Row Row! Fight the powa!!
>>336113362
>Still unsure why there was the petrified version of him near Moonlight Butterfly though.
That probably really was just lazy asset re-use. They needed a 'blacksmith' model to hold the ember. Why it needed to be a statue is pretty weird. Reminds me of Plague's insane rambling about the Moonlight Butterfly -> Seath -> Cursed breath and all the other stuff.
>>336113424
>>336113437
Oh. Fair enough.
>>336112806
ENEMY STAND
>>336113098
I can 99% confirm I am not Aldia
>>336113230
eradicate fire
eradicate dark
use giant fire breathing immortal lizards to eradicate the abyss
purge the serpents
>>336113259
>believing Yuria "I fuck filthy serpents" of Londor's lies
>believing a pile of Goo that can't even distinguish the abyss and the sea and wants a waterworld dystopia
>>336113595
wtf is the DEEP
>>336113667
either another way of calling the abyss or a face of it, or a fourth different possible era.
>>336113230
The age of dark is not the Abyss.
Darkness =/= the Abyss. Not every shadow is wild humanity, and the Abyss doesn't temporarily consume the world every night when the sun sets. The Age of Dark is simply a world without fire, where darkness is the rule of the age. You get a taste of such a place when you visit the Untended Graves. Does the darkness there INSTANTLY kill you like the Abyss does in DaS1? No, because it's not the Abyss, it's simply what the world looks like in the absence of light.
Peoples humanity doesn't go wild naturally, it had to be provoked. Manus was a normal-ass man until he was corrupted and resurrected be outrageous Oolacile rituals. The Pus of Man in DaS3 is highly linked to the bullshit experiments of Oceiros and the Lothric Scholars, since you don't find them anywhere else except downtown Lothric, they're concentrated in Ocerios' garden, and they are reanimating whole dragons with that shit.
The Abyss is like a dark counterpart to the Chaos Flame, it has to be provoked via artificial means and it then proceeds to hideously mutate everything near it. It's probably located underneath Londor, since Kaathe hangs out there, but according to DaS2, after manus died shards splintered off of the main body and bits of the Abyss can be found all over the world
>>336113667
The lore
Primordial Serpent Genocide DLC when?
It's about time those fuckers get what's coming to them
>>336113604
I'm not saying I'm on board with the whole Usurpation ending, but it does do something different to the world
>End of fire endings
>Pitch black
>Usurpation ending
>The (red-orange) solar eclipse becomes white
Unsurpation is different because you don't let the fire go out, you take it for yourself.
>>336113757
kek
>>336113460
>Kaathe
>wanting the Abyss
"They all failed me. Every single lady one of them. I am sure that you will be different." -- Kaathe, talking about Oolacile and New Londo.
The Abyss was a mistake
>>336109237
what's the deal with solaire in that?
>>336113667
Abyss or something entire new
Dark was fucked over by Manus and abyss was created
So maybe dark created something new from itself to keep abyss away, than letting fire go one day wouldn't be such a shitty option
>have to beat the game 4 times to get all the endings
y tho
>>336113765
Anon, stealing the fire and taking it for yourself was what happened in the "bully the Firekeeper" ending. The Usurpation end is distinct from that
>>336109112
>female protagonist
guess I won´t be reading this trash
>>336113750
This is because abyss never reached this place
Dark isn't bad
Abyss is, and fire is the only thing that keeps it away
>be outrageous Oolacile rituals.
Oh, so you are retarded
Oolacile magic always was described as one of the most gentle things in the world, what rituals?
>>336111162
>instead of being an image of a bleak as fuck world it's actually that of a world that has been born anew with the first flame fully rejuvenated
I like it
>>336113667
global warming, hint to the next FROM game. Set completely underwater and you play as a scuba diver searching for ancient cities that turn out to be from the souls games.
>>336113758
Primordial serpents will be bosses in the DLC
Gimmick bosses
>attack the flesh mustache for massive damage!
>>336114003
The rituals they used to resurrect a man from the dead you idiot. Necromancy is some hardcore shit
>>336113765
>Unsurpation is different
different =/= good
Kaathe wanted this
Kaathe is a lying serpent
don't believe serpent's lies
>>336113964
in both endings you take the fire for yourself, in one you just take it and keep it a la gollum with the ring, in the other you use it to be the boss of useless city. Neither is good.
>>336114042
Will be another Iron King fight
>>336114042
>they have a grab attack with their mustache
>it's borderline tentacle hentai
>>336113667
It's all up for debate right now.
Some people will argue it's just the abyss, others say it's just some shit that Aldrich saw that didn't mean anything, but there is evidence supporting otherwise.
>Deep Gem, which is a separate infusion to Dark
>Item description says that "There is a darkness that lies beyond human ken" meaning, A darkness beyond humanity and the dark soul
>Human Dregs are a seperate thing from humanity
>are the heaviest part of the human body
>Followers of the deep look like drowned corpses
Other shit:
>Deep Protection
>The deep was originally a peaceful and sacred place, but became the final rest for many abhorrent things. This tale of the Deep offers protection for those who worship amidst those horrors.
>Deep Ring
>In the Cathedral slumber things most terrible, and as such, the deacons require a grand narrative, to ensure they do not falter in their duty. A philosophy, to ward away the madness beckoned by the grotesqueries at hand.
>Deep Soul
>Souls which swell from the deep pursue their target, drawn towards life.
>Great Deep Soul
>Archdeacon McDonnell, a sorcerer himself, delighted in the cathedral's stagnating souls. For him, they represented the glorious bedrock of this world
>>336114042
>Primordial serpents will be bosses in the DLC
this and few infos on Aldia is all I ask.
>>336111934
Not necessarily. He could always be lying and is actually the Soulfeeder mentioned in the ring he drops, which would also explain why he has nightmares of being burned as the soulfeeder was burned as an alternative to being nightmares of being burned while linking the fire.
>>336114097
>The rituals they used to resurrect a man from the dead
literally never happened, Manus was never said to be dead
>>336113964
Betrayal has you holding the fire. Usurpation has you taking the fire into your body as you begin to ignite.
Betrayal also has the sun lighting back up so it may be you pussing out and linking the flame anyways
>>336114107
>take the ending where you usurp the flame for yourself
>no unique soul/item or even exorbitant amount of souls
Is DeS the only game that did this right?
>kill maiden and partner with old one
>get it's soul after the ending
>let maiden put it to sleep
>get her soul after the ending
>>336109112
man comics must be really invested with sjw if even the offical dark souls comic has to feature a "strong wyman"
>>336114157
>Some people will argue it's just the abyss
anyone arguing this didn't pay attention to anything and is to be disregarded. things can be up for debate, but it's very clear in about a billion ways that "deep" refers to bloodborne type eldritch magic associated with the deep sea.
the DLC will focus on the deep, and the deep will be a major storyline component when dark souls comes back in 3-4 years.
>>336114274
>implying it's not just a dude wearing female's armor
>>336113667
Both the Deep and the Profaned Flame are concept that may be other ways of calling the Abyss or the Chaos Flame, some forms of them, or entirely different things.
The problem is, quite simply, we don't have enough informations about either of them to really identify them.
>>336113964
In the End of Fire(and the alternative version) you let the Firekeeper extinguish the flame though, you don't take it. No such a thing happens in the Usurpation ending.
>>336113949
Is the "smack the firekeeper" ending really different from the one where you just let it fade to black?
>>336114209
>Not necessarily
he fucking burns up on his throne bro.
>>336114283
all I want is a transformation that isn't complete ass.and preferrably has a large ass
>>336114339
yeah, as soon as she dies you step on her face and grab the flame and the narrator calls you a bitch that can't even link the flame
Where is Gwyn? If he linked the fire why didn't he come back like the other Lords?
>>336114338
in the betrayal version you kill the firekeeper, take the flame and hold it up to the sun.
>>336114214
>they AWOKE that [primeval aka original human] themselves, and drove it mad -- Gough
Unless you think that this unimaginably old human was "just sleeping" after uncounted years past a normal lifespan, he was dead
Is the first Dark Soul still populated?
I just feel like going back to it.
>>336114462
PRAISE THE SUN
>>336114283
>it's very clear in about a billion ways that "deep" refers to bloodborne type eldritch magic associated with the deep sea
no it's not. this is all pure speculation, you may be right, but both your theory and the abyss=deep one are based on like, 3 descriptions. They are not clear at all and are too few. Maybe the DLC will tell us something more.
>>336114312
nope the only male good male character is a wimp that runs around half naked since in feminist love to be full being sexist towards men
http://view-comic.com/dark-souls-001-2016/
>>336114339
You get a new cutscene.
No achievements/trophies for getting that ending though, even From knows it's the worst of all 4.
>>336114479
they killed online support afaik
>>336114431
he didas the final bosshis body didn't though because it's probably been thousands of years and completely disappeared
>>336114523
Cool, not going to bother with it then
>>336114530
>afaik
why say anything when you don't actually know at all? just curious.
if "as far as I know" means you know nothing, why speak?
>>336114530
Oh well, fuck that then.
>>336114238
Yeah, but it lights back up Dark. Probably a reflection that the new vessel for the First Flame has a whopping 8 Dark Sigils in it. Also, the bonfire is relit in the background
In the waifukilling ending, you don't absorb the flame, you just cradle it while it dies, instead of the firekeeper
>>336114334
Profaned Flame is what happens when you mix the Abyss and Chaos together
>>336114479
same question, im ng+2 on DeS now and going to move back onto DaS.
>they killed online support
I doubt it as the DeS servers are still up, not that summons are easy to find now.
>>336114462
You just take that small ember, probably to give your character some comfort before the age of dark begins in full force.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W7HiXhaQCI
Now see the Usurpation one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffnl7QL2h54
You put the First Flame inside your body in the Usurpation ending.
>>336112846
>loli-orientated visual novel
don't bother typing about something you know nothing about.
>>336114710
I'm not convinced. It seems more a different thing completely.
>>336114803
it is. small minds cannot reason that a thing is not directly another thing. people have always done that with this game
>DEMON OF SONG IS GWYNEVERE
>>336114431
he got his ass beat by the chosen undead who then absorbed his soul before linking the flame himself
>>336114283
>3 whole gamed about the dichotomy between light and dark, and the conflict between the factions supporting them
>conflict over whether or not to let nature take its course and let the Dark set in, or continue to roll with fire
>an eternal conflict propped up by yin/yang concepts and the basic properties of fire
>game 3
>DUDE LMAO THERE IS ALSO THIS 3RD MYSTERIOUS OCEAN, GUYS! NOT LIGHT OR DARK, BUT WATER!!! IT WAS THERE THE W H O L E TIME, JUST WAITING FOR ITS CHANCE!!!!!!
No
>>336113667Mario lore
>>336114917
anon what's the opposite of fire
water
>>336114917
>aldrichs soul directly refers to the "Coming age of the deep" meaning there is a new power which can challenge the power of flame directly
Sorry you didn't understand.
>>336114883
>Dragonslayer armor is Ornstein
>Nameless King is Ornstein
>Stormdrake is Ornstein
>Corpse where you find the set is Ornstein
where is Ornstein poster gone?
>>336113949
>tfw beat it 7 times already
send help
>>336114917
>3 whole gamed about the dichotomy between light and dark, and the conflict between the factions supporting them
Stop it
Even in the first game the only reason why dark was bad, it's because abyss will go unchecked
So there already 3 sides
>>336114987
What if you are Ornstein?
>>336112264
i assume she gave birth before becoming hollowed
>>336109112
This is fucking awful, pls make it not be a thing.
>>336114987
What if Oskar from the first game was Ornstein?
>nameless king on the north
>undead jail was on the north
He just mistook one place for another!
>>336115058
>the entire Souls trilogy was just the imagination of an insane Ornstein, bored to death of guarding Anor Londo for countless years
>>336115058
And then anon was Ornstein.
>>336114803
>Eleonora and Handmaidens dagger make it clear that the Profaned Flame is a type of cursed fire
>Yhorms cinders show that the Curse is that the Flame actively seeks out and exclusively burns human flesh, nothing else
>Profaned Coal shows that the Profaned Flame is associated with the Abyss/humanity, since it allows for dark and hollow infusions
>the handmaidens who created the Flame were "relatives of a certain oracle"
>the only named oracle in the series is Alsanna, the Silent Oracle
>which would make the Profaned Capital Eleum Loyce, which is supported by how it is buried under a sheet of ice
>Eleum Loyce was hiding Chaos underneath it
>logical conclusion: the fire that was cursed with the Abyss was Eleum Loyces chaos flame
Seems pretty clear to me
>>336114917
There's several sides here
>Refresh the fire (age of fire)
>Extinguish the fire (age of dark)
>Aldrich's something something (age of deep water)
>take the fire for yourself (age of something)
>>336109112
>Solaire is suddenly a complete asshole
>shitty shoehorned "muh misogyny evil man" dialogue
>extensive dialogue at all
>>336114963
Opposite of fire is darkness, they tell you this in the intro to DaS1
>>336115226
opposite of light is darkness
>>336115212
It's an illusion, bro
a twisted image of him
>>336114987
yeah thats exactly what i was talking about
>>336109112
:OO
ITS THE MEME MAN \o/
PRAISE LE SUN \o/
>>336115184
Eleum Loyce is a continent away from Anor Londo/Irithyll though.
>>336115226
>Opposite of fire is darkness
heat and cold
life and death
And of course
Light and dark
>>336115184
>long ass linkage of a bunch of inferences and references to dark souls 2 which is retconned/non-canon
>"seems pretty clear"
Yeah, of course, the profaned capital IS Eleum Loyce
remember guys, everything always directly IS something else :))
>deep gems and dark gems both infuse with dark
>deep tome and Londor tome both contain Dark miracles -- just ask Irina
>buying Deep protection is enough to kick her off her Fire keeper ending, just the same as if you had bought Dark Blade
>Deep Soul and Great Deep Soul both deal Dark damage
>the Deacons of the Deep, who all fell to the Deep, have the red eyes that are elsewhere associated with Abyss possession
Explain this, "deep =/= Abyss" nerds
>>336115329
Says who?
>>336115382
>DaS2 is non-canon
You_tried.jpg
>>336114987
>>Corpse where you find the set is Ornstein
But there is no corpse by Ornstein's set. I'm not putting it passed FROM to throw our favorite Dragonslayer in as a major DLC boss like they did with Artorias.
I get the feeling that if this really is going to be the last Souls, then the final boss of the DLCs will be something just as nostalgia-baiting as Soul of Cinder.
Demon's Souls had you fighting the "true king" in a glorified QTE
Dark Souls had you fighting the Father of the Abyss as its final test.
Dark Souls 2 gave you Aldia, who was the missing piece of much of DaS2's lore puzzle.
Bloodborne showed you the healing churches first sin with Orphan of Kos.
Stands to reason that the last boss of the last DLC for Dark Souls 3 will be just as important as every other expansion end boss.
>>336115404
deep has no scaling, dark has scaling
Question, since I don't want to make another Dark Souls thread, is there a way to cure the hollowing effect without losing the Dark Sigils? I think you can use purging stones and I know there's a ring for it, but, does the former cause you to not be able to get that ending? Thanks in advance.
>>336115456
>not made by series director
>not made by real team
>enemies that were retained in name were changed in design, except for one thing, the fucking bug
>no hard references to names, locations, anything else, despite countless hard references to DaS1
It's non canon buddy, deal with it. Miyazaki clearly doesn't have much taste for the pile of trash that was 2.
Did Lorian actually want to be cursed bby Lothric? I thought he was the more powerful of the two brothers?
Why is Gwynevere so much larger than the rest of her family by such a huge margin?
Did Gwyndolin and Gwynevere know about the Nameless King?
Finally, who would win in a fight, Nameless King or Soul of Cinder?
>>336115501
Oh wow, that clearly changes the fact that both types of infusions infect your weapon with the Dark
>>336114283
I think as we're getting 2 Expansion DLCs, that we'll get The Deep
And Londor
>>336115464
>But there is no corpse by Ornstein's set. I'm not putting it passed FROM to throw our favorite Dragonslayer in as a major DLC boss like they did with Artorias.
They're not going to put in him as a DLC boss after Dragonslayer Armor.
>>336115527
You can use all the purging stones you like and still get Usurpation of Fire
>>336115579
one is for when you want elemental damage without having to invest in magic stats, the other for when you DO want to invest in those stats
>>336115581
I just want to wear the dragonslayer armor's armor
Art style reminds me of those old painted Chinese historical comics. It's nice.
Main character talks too much. I hate when writers add a "voice" to silent protags, they sound edgy as fuck. Anyway, I'm guessing this is a false illusion of Solaire
>>336115537
Not him, but take your headcanon somewhere.
>>336113102
Actually it kind of makes sense if you assume the Age of Ancients is actually part of the cycle. As we've already seen, Giants, or at least SOME giants, become trees over time when they die. And now we have humans becoming those Pilgrim Butterflies we see flying around in Lothric Castle, which look like flying dragon nervous systems. What if the Age of Light happens, then the Age of Dark, during which people become dragons and giants become archtrees, thus eventually leading back to the Age of Ancients?
Dark Souls 1 Pursuers:
>Sorcery of Manus, Father of the Abyss. Grant a fleeting will to the Dark of humanity, and volley the result.
>The will feels envy, or perhaps love, and despite the inevitably trite and tragic ending,
the will sees no alternative, and is driven madly toward its target.
Dark Souls 3 Deep Soul
>Sorcery of Archdeacon Royce and his deacons, said to have been imparted to them by McDonnell of the Boreal Valley.
>Fires dark soul dregs. Souls which swell from the deep pursue their target, drawn towards life.
A universal trait of all Abyss magic (that is, magic formed from Humanity) is that it 'pursues' its target, because Humanity naturally seeks other Humanity. This trait is seen in both Abyss spells and 'Deep' spells. Thus, 'Deep' spells are composed of Humanity. Thus, 'Deep' spells are essentially Abyss spells.
Dark Souls 3 Sacred Oath
>Miracle of those chosen by the Sunlight covenant. Temporarily boosts attack and damage absorbtion for self and those in vicinity.
>This is the tale of the Sun's firstborn, his faithful first knight, and the brave dragonslayer who served them both.
Sun's firstborn = Nameless King
Faithful First Knight = Ornstein
Brave Dragonslayer who served them both = A character we were not aware existed, and who is almost definitely the owner of the 'Dragonslayer Armor'. This explains many inconsistencies and confusion concerning Ornstein and his armor.
>>336115537
>Vendrick and Drangleic are explicitly referenced -- and they go so far as to call him a punk bitch
>Mirrah is explicitly referenced
>Forrossa is explicitly referenced
>Way of Blue and the Blue Sentinels exist
>anusface giants and Giant Seeds are still around
Stay delusional
>>336115714
maybe you should look up "explicitly" in the dictionary, since you don't know what the word means
>a covenant existing from a previous game or a design element taken from a previous game mean anything
>>336115627
Yeah, but they're both Abyss infusions, just different types
>>336115581
But Dragonslayer Armor doesn't look like Ornstein, or have his weapon and moveset. And it uses a greatshield. About all it has in common was the name "Dragonslayer."
And we know the set of Ornstien's armor you pick up after Nameless King isn't real becauseit has no plume
>>336115689
>>336115689
it makes sense to me
>dragon human things get tired of flying around
>ash eventually covers them in countless layers and becoming inexplicably hard after thousands of years
>first flame eventually sparks up again
>hollows that didn't transform find the fire
So can you actually see Firelink from the High Wall?
I've tried, but never managed it.
>>336115795
Maybe you should stop blindly following the hatewagon for ds2.
>>336115698
>being an idiot
Sun's firstborn = Nameless King
Faithful First Knight = Solaire or someone we've never met
Dragonslayer = Ornstein
>>336113004
>>336113314
Solaire may be the Carthus Worm down in the Smouldering Lake. Considering that place is part Izalith and that worm has lightning magic, the Sunlight Maggot may have grown or something. Or not. But it's possible.
>>336113259
I took the "deep sea" to mean the next Age of Ancients. Looking back at Ash Lake, 360 degrees of pitch black ocean as far as you can see. S'a pretty deep sea, anon.
>>336115824
Read this.
>>336115698
>>336115329
Doesn't matter, since landmasses are shifting to converge around Lothric and the Kiln
>>336115852
no, it's way behind lothric castle. Specifically designed so you can never actually see the rest of the world from it, and you can never see it from the rest of the world.
>>336109112
What you guys thing, will Miyazaki refer to SotfS in DS3 DLC? Or will he pretend that DS2 never happened?
Another thing, this ruins in Kiln of the First Flame in DS3, isn't that Drangleic castle?
>>336115824
>But Dragonslayer Armor doesn't look like Ornstein
Yes he does.
> or have his weapon
The greataxe is mounted on a broken cross-spear.
>About all it has in common was the name "Dragonslayer."
He's the requisite Ornstein fight. That's it. They aren't going ot put in him again.
>>336115627
Fire = Deep
Chaos = Dark
If you want to include infusions its fair to say those links also hold true.
>>336115885
Ornstein is explicitly identified as the first knight of Gwyn's firstborn in item descriptions.
Leo Ring
>Ornstein was the first knight of the sun's eldest born, and his cross spear is said to have pierced scales made of stone.
TRY
AGAIN
FAGGOT
>>336115527
Purging stones and the statue in the tunnels near the Dilapidated Bridge bonfire. Both still let you get the usurpation ending.
A LIE WILL REMAIN A LIE
L
I
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>>336115404
they're dark in different ways.
Deep Gem says that there is a darkness that lies beyond humanity.
>>336115937
Read this.
>>336115698
>>336115940
Also Lightning and Blessed.
>>336115552
it's weird brotherly stuff i can't explain
the gwynevere you see in DS1 is an illusion, the real deal is smaller than that
probably, they just don't talk about him since daddy doesn't like him
nameless king was the bigger bitch to fight, so i'm betting on him
>>336109572
>I stare at man's asses when presented on screen.
Why so insecure about your sexuality, anon? it's the 21st century. Just get out of the closet and be happy.
>>336116016
Beyond human ken (ken means knowledge). Not beyond humanity. Most humans don't know shit about the abyss.
Deep magic is very clearly humanity-based magic as well. Go read.
>>336115928
From Soul Stream:
>Sorcery imparted by the first of the Scholars, when Lothric and the Grand Archives were but young.
>Fires a torrential volley of souls.
>The first of the Scholars doubted the linking of the fire, and was alleged to be a private mentor to the Royal Prince.
The japanese for Soul Stream is identical to what Soul Geyser was in DaS2, and Soul Geyser was explicitly Aldia's spell.
>>336116021
>Also Lightning and Blessed.
Nobody has any confusion about lightning and Blessed though.
>>336113195
The fuck, isn't that Jojo's Bizzare Adventure?
This is what Aldrich, the guy who ate your waifu(male) looks like according to the comic
>>336116021
>Also Lightning and Blessed.
This ones are totally different
One deals lighting attack, another normal that increases by faith
One came from gods, another(lighting) always was part of theworld
>>336115928
lore says that Lothric was convinced by "the first of the scholars" to not link the fire.
This isn't the last time we see of Aldia, that's for sure
>>336116107
People are saying Deep must be different from Dark because they have different infusions.
Lightning and Blessed both come from the Gods. Same exact source.
>>336115926
I made a shitty map to represent the locations, not 100% accurate
green = undead settlement
red = firelink
>>336116016
Kin =/= Ken, they are two different concepts
Kin == humans, things related to you, family, etc.
Ken == human understanding and knowledge
"There is a darkness that is darker than your wildest dreams" -- Deep Gem
>>336115212
Its clearly not Solaire, dumbass. Why is context so hard for you people? You just want a reason to hate it.
>>336116123
>Poppet
L O N D O R
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>>336116143
fuck forgot it
>>336115940
I don't even care about the whole "dark=deep" and whatever discussion,but the fire infusion with scaling is literally called "chaos infusion"
>>336116123
Is there a link to the full version if this?
>Age of Deep Sea
Clearly we know what Aldrich saw
>>336116190
OHH, OUR GRACIOUS, LORD...
>>336111162
this concept art is way cooler and interesting than the entire game
>>336116123
>Aldrich in the lore is a cleric hardass motherfucker who gives zero fucks
>comic turns him into a caveman bitch who receives orders from a literally who
>>336115962
>>336115698
Shit that actually does make sense
>>336116123
Also here's Aldrich, Devourer of Gods being a fedora tipper getting pushed around by a strong independent womyn
>>336116274
I downloaded it from kickass
>>336116298
#MLWA
>>336116123
>Aldrich
>some shitty sandnigger shaman
>ingame he was described as a holy cleric of the church before turning into the thing
was this made before the release of ds3 and they only had names to go on?
>>336115404
Deep and Dark (Humanity) are different concepts just like Fire and Chaos are.
>>336116325
>from a literally who
She was second in command after Solaire!
>>336116347
>>336116123
Can you post the comic please?
>>336116140
And Fire is different from Chaos, have different infusions and have parallels to Deep/Dark infusions with the non-scaling/scaling.
I have no problem with using infusions as a basis.
>>336116241
Yes, that was the point that post was making.
If Chaos is Fire with scaling, the same can be said of Deep/Dark.
If Chaos is Fire+, then Dark is Deep+
>>336116395
Different concepts, same source, just like Lightning and Blessed.
>>336116278
>Great volumes of water serve as a bulwark that guards sleep, and an Augur of the Eldrich Truth. Overcome this limitation, and seek what is yours.
This is such a cool phrase. Bloodborne REALLY understood Cosmic Horror, I was very, very impressed by it
>>336116347
Only volume 1 is out for now correct?
>>336116278
Wait a fucking minute.
>The shape of that rune
That's like all those symbols in the Cathedral of the Deep
