Is there a comfier horror game than Bloodborne? The victorian aesthetics just make it feel so cozy and refined.
I really wish I could live in that world (save for all the horrible stuff that goes on).
>bloodborne
>horror
>horror
console owners
>architecture is an art form
>beautiful, well-planned cities
>in reality you live in a shit-tier world full of shitty advertisements for shitty products
It's a pretty fucked up world so no.
>>336102524
I dunno man, all those dead bodies fused into the walls that looked like they were screaming and begging for help was pretty horrific. And those bloated head guys and that fishing village.
>>336102524
>>336102582
Horror doesn't necessarily mean modern-day survival horror, friendly anons.
>>336102627
>bloated head guys
>horrific
DON'T TALK SMACK ABOUT MISTER PLIP-PLOP AND HIS FRIENDS!
>>336102675
>>336102627
>>336102626
It is an INTENSELY Lovecraftian game. Basically there's a big crazy universe out there filled with things so powerful that all of human existence is meaningless to. And it's also full of things that the human mind is incapable of understanding.
>>336102970
do we get another bloodborne game?
>>336103163
No. Since Undertale won more awards, I think we'll never see another Bloodborne.
Horror needs jumpscares, hallways, shitty controlls and it has to be first person.
How come there's no sexy lingerie option for the doll?
>>336103163
no, FROM is gonna spend the next 5-7 making robot games and trying new IP's.
In his own words, at least five years from now, someone on FROM would have to beg to make a new soulsborne game, and would have to demonstrate a strong creative vision for the project rather than being another one for the sake of making another one
Why did she exist in two different places?
>>336103163
Bloodborne is literally funded by Sony as an exclusive IP. So yes, we're getting another fucking game, it just won't be churned out like Dark Souls.
>>336103163
I don't know man, I'd love some more BB but I don't want this game to get the Dark Souls treatment. I'd be very happy with another DLC.
>>336104819
same here
WITH A DRESSUP GAME for our doll.
>>336105061
No lewd outfits.
>>336105083
Only nice outfits.
-french maid
-wedding gown
-nurse
-pajama
what else?
>>336102524
Bloodborne is more horror than just about every other game advertised as "survival horror."
>>336105198
>wedding gown
>pajamas
Stop, my heart is too weak for this.
>>336105246
It also handles horror a lot better than any of those games, introducing it slowly and suddenly going full Lovecraft after Rom. That was great.
>>336102970
>Lovecraftian
When will this meme die? Bloodborne has literally nothing to do with Lovecraft other than a reddit tier understanding of Lovecraft as nothing more than LOL TENTACLES AND CRAZY PEOPLE. Even the mechanics that try to bring in lovecraft like shit boil down to little more than losing alot of health.
>>336105258
Yes. A nice pajama for our sleepy doll.
>>336105382
Based contrarian smacking down teh facts.
>>336102435
Comfy Lady Maria is cute. CUTE!
>>336105198
>>336105258
>ywn play qt dress ups with Doll
S-stop it, anon
>>336102435
Why give her this face?
>>336105382
Lovecraftian horror is about piecing together mysteries that have horrible implications. And seeing how most of the story is left in the open and is only told through vague descriptions and clues, I'd say Bloodborne is pretty fucking lovecraftian. Also there's the usual themes of racial degeneracy, lost civilizations, knowledge leading to madness, impregnation by aliens, and body horror.
Too bad your understanding of lovecraftian horror is too reddit to pick up on that.
>>336105382
This. Bloodborne is one of my favorite games of all time, but it's understanding of Lovecraftian /lit/ and concepts is very small; Ebrietas grieving over Rom, for example, goes against the way in which the Old Ones behave in Lovecraft's works.
>>336102435
The answer is no. Bloodborne is the comfiest :3
>>336105481
>>336105258
>>336105198
XIXth century bathing suit
shepherdess outfit
fairy princess dress (with wings and magic wand)
>>336105785
Just because it deviates from Lovecraft doesn't mean it doesn't understand it. On the very contrary
>>336105703
And at this point, alien gods having good intents is weirder and more interesting than just having them be out to destroy everything and spread chaos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EISe-WdZYE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf-sLzzPiAU
Which one, /v/?
>>336106153
Melody, it's comfier and more soothing, just like Doll.
>>336106062
Likewise, I can easily say that its understanding of his literature is perhaps not small, but still very basic. I love the fact that it handles the insatiable need for wisdom that humans have so well, but some aspects of the behavior of the Great Ones trigger me a bit. And I mean, there have been many collaborators on Lovecraftian /lit/; yet, none of them have ever deviated from the "rules" established by Niggerman.
Not saying that the deviation in BB is a bad thing, but I do perceive it as a bit fanfic-tier. Huntersquid is another fuck-up as well, even if I love that ending.
>>336106434
>none of them have ever deviated from the "rules"
You don't know shit, the only rules he ever mentioned concerned how to make good use of your time when writing a horror story. And even then, the notion of somewhat benevolent alien gods with emotions already existed in his works.
>a bit fanfic tier
the things that make it fanfic-tier, like it or not, are actually the more overt and superficial references to Lovecraft, such as the fishing village. Without them, Bloodborne would really be its own thing that happens to share themes with lovecraftian horror.
>Huntersquid is another fuck up
How so? several of Lovecraft's stories revolve around the protagonist turning into a monster. The fact that for once it's presented as a good thing is not a "fuck-up", it's simply a deviation that has its own appeals.
>>336105967
>XIXth century bathing suit
>fairy princess dress (with wings and magic wandSTOP IT ANON MY HEART CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE
Post more cute Doll
>>336106434
>>336107128
Where should I start reading Lovecraft, bros?
>>336107697
>>336103885
Ghostly apparitions don't have to play by the rules.
>>336107128
>You don't know shit, the only rules he ever mentioned concerned how to make good use of your time when writkng a horror story
Yeah, that's why I said "rules". Thing is, that's a very basic "rule" in his lore. It's not a rule per se, rather, a guideline of sorts. For example, if you were to write a story inspired by Evangelion you wouldn't trivialize the Evas, would you? Or you wouldn't make the Angels beings with feelings, right? That's what I'm trying to convey by saying "rules".
>the notion of somewhat benevolent alien gods with emotions already existed in hiw works
The only Great One with human-like emotions is Nyarly, though. And even then, he only wants to cause ruin and panic. Yog-Sothoth, Shub-Niggurath, and the like have never been portrayed as being with benevolent feelings.
>Hos so? several of Lovecraft's stories revolve around the protagonisy turning into a monster
A monster, not a Great One. Ironically, they usually become a monster because they try to comprehend concepts that only beings such as the Great Ones can assimilate; I actually loved Master Willem because of that.
I'm not saying that it's bad, but BB still has some mistakes in its portrayal of Lovecraftian lore, but then again, this isn't adaptation of his works, so it gets a pass. I still love it, and appreciate that it has its own lore.
>>336107697
The Dunwich Horror and Others is a great place to start. It's a pretty fucking good introduction to his lore and his themes, too.
>>336107697
It depends, if you want spooky horror lovecraft start with Dagon, the Colour out of Space, and The Shadow over Innsmouth.
If you want the eerie fairytale Lovecraft start with The White Ship, The Other Gods, The Doom that Came to Sarnath and all his early 1920s stories all the way up to the Dream-quest, which is absolutely wonderful.
And if you want gothic horror lovecraft read stuff like The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, Herbert West: Reanimator, and his earliest works like The Hound, The Loving Dead
>>336103508
The doll is not for sexual
>>336108231
>spooky horror lovecraft
>not recommending Rats in the Walls
C'mon anon.
>>336102435
Suck my dick ho
>>336106434
>niggerman
Since when did his cat make the rules.
>>336108167
>BB still has some mistakes in its portrayal of Lovecraftian lore
bb isnt a portrayal of lovecraftian lore
>>336102435
There needs to be more games with this kind of atmosphere. The only other example I can think of isThe Order
>>336108167
Again, you don't know shit.
You're treating the Great Ones as if they had a canonical behavior. Remember that Azathoth was originally just an allegory of poetry and dreams. Remember that the mythos grew as an extension of his Dunsany-inspired fairy tales where even ghouls are ultimately helpful and nice.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE GODS IN BLOODBORNE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE GREAT OLD ONES. They're closer to the Elder gods, which were suggested to be anthropomorphic until At the Mountains of Madness where they were revealed to be those winged starfish things. Even then, they were ultimately depicted in a sympathetic light.
>but then again, this isn't adaptation of his works
WHICH IS WHY THOSE DEVIATIONS ARE NOT MISTAKES.
>>336108520
stfu wiki faggot
>>336108618
>wiki faggot
what?
Dude you're embarrassing yourself.
What weapons and builds do you guys think is most fun in Bloodborne for PvE?
I've been trying to decide what to run with next time I do a playthrough.
>>336108713
I recently did a Bloodtinge only playthrough and it was pretty fun, used the Chikage and Bowblade transformed modes for most of the playthrough.
>>336102435
Bloodborne is my favorite game of all time probably but I wouldn't call it a horror game. It has oppressive atmosphere and fucked up monster design sure, but none of it made me truly fucking scared.
Funny enough, some things in Dark Souls 3 made me more afraid than anything in BB.
Doll has rock-hard abs!
But they're very fragile because porcelain breaks easily so be gentle.
>>336108951
>horror games must scare me
I don't even have words.
>>336108713
Amygdalan arm is my favorite. It's really good and i love the extra twitch attack on r2s and how it combos.
>>336107935
Doll is cute.
>>336108167
>>336108231
>>336108279
Thanks for the recommendations, anons. Been meaning to read him for too long.
>>336108713
>>336108905
Seconded, Bloodtinge+Chikage is just too fun.
>>336109026
He has half a point. All the Soulsborne games are ultimately about empowering the player character, and that's counter to horror. True horror games are ones where you can't kill every single enemy in the game.
>>336108416
It is inspired by it on many levels - visually, aesthetically, and thematically. You're right, but still.
>>336108520
>AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE GODS IN BLOODBORNE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE GREAT OLD ONES
I never said that they were supposed to be. They were clearly inspired by them though, and the Great Old Ones have never been portrayed in a synpatheitc light, unlike the Elder Ones. You're right in that though, they do resemble the Elder gods more in some aspects - mainly in the way in which they live.
But for all purposes and intents, and because of how obvious it is, Miyazaki was probably inspired by the Great Old Ones.
I was only saying that the Great Ones devaite a lot from the Great Old Ones and that the Hunter becoming a squid was silly if we look at it from "Lovecraftian perspective". And I'll say it again, I love BB - it has its own lore and is not an adaptation of Niggerman's works. I was merely pointing the fact that BB's GOs are different GOOs.
>>336108951
this, although I think dark souls 3 only pandered to a primitive scare factor with things like the giants or high lord wolnir
put the same things into bloodborne but with a giant amygdala appearing from the darkness and its already much better
>>336109026
A horror game doesn't NEED to scare me to be a horror game, where did you get that from?
Bloodborne is an action RPG with blood, beasts, ayys and higher beings but none of it made me legitimately spooked. You can think of it as some sort of horror game even if its fundamentally not.
>>336109129
>devaite
*deviate
>different GOOs
different than the GOOs
>>336109169
>none of it made me legitimately spooked
Not evenbrain of Mensis?
>>336109084
>>336108905
Unfortunately bloodtinge Chikage was my first run but a bloodtinge bowblade run might be fun.
>>336109039
Never saw the Amygdalan arm moveset until now but it looks so cool
>>336109154
Giants or High lord Wolnir were nothing
We've seen big skeletons and giants for years now, thats old and boring.
Shit like the spider/scorpion/furry beast demon in Anor Londo / Cathedral Of The Deep or the water spiders legitimately make my skin crawl and I almost lost my fucking shit when I saw one of them the first time.
>>336109169
>where did you get that from?
From what you wrote, holy fuck I can't even believe I'm posting this. I refuse to be baited further.
>>336109129
That sounds a lot like clumsy backpedalling from someone who erroneously claimed that Miyazaki made "mistakes" but I'll take your word for it.
>>336102435
No, no there isn't.
>>336109291
>Shit like the spider/scorpion/furry beast demon in Anor Londo / Cathedral Of The Deep
I don't even remember these enemies.
>>336109221
Brain of Mensis was just plainly annoying on my first playtrough. I had no time to be spooked from all the annoyance
Now they're just another normal enemy since I learned how to deal with them but any kind of scare they might have had wore off fast.
>>336107697
>>336108231
Don't start with The Shadow over Innsmouth. It is excruciatingly drawn out, has no subtlety whatsoever, and overdescribes everything with the same adjectives. It's not a bad narrative, but it is not a good piece of writing. It could easily put off someone who hasn't read Lovecraft at all. Rats in the Walls is shorter and better written, and serves as a much better introduction to his writing. The Dunwich Horror is also quite good.
Doll is great, Doll is good.
>>336109349
Stop using retarded mind gymnastics. A horror game is supposed to be scary. If it's just "creepy" or has a "dark atmosphere", you're free to call it dark fantasy, or a game in a "gothic setting", the way you do with films, but not horror.
>>336109436
>they're
Wrong enemy?
>>336109490
Colour out of Space is GOAT.
>>336109349
>"It has oppressive atmosphere and fucked up monster design sure, but none of it made me truly fucking scared."
>"I dont think its a horror game"
And where in that does it say that a game HAS to spook me to even BE a horror game? Nowhere.
Bloodborne isn't a horror game not because it didn't spook me, but because its fundamentally not a horror game.
Get some sleep anon.
>>336109154
>3 only pandered to a primitive scare factor
Dark firelink with shrine maiden and her creepy dialogues, pilgrim butterflies flying in a darksign sky, dragons being controlled by abyssal taint, madness of Oceiros, enormous empty birdcage and multiple throwbacks to Angels are all BB-tier weird moments.
>>336109506
You haven't even played the game if you're generalizing a town melted into walls as a mass sacrifice as 'creepy'
>>336109392
Hello
>>336109729
>they had rings that allowed them to listen to Gwyndolin's moans
>>336109490
I haven't read that one yet. I was really only concerned with warning anon about The Shadow over Innsmouth.
>>336109537
Oh yeah, that
Its really not an enemy though, while it did upset me a little bit.
If it moved and actually attacked you I would have had more of a reaction
It does make me uneasy but him not being an enemy kind of ruined the scare factor for me
>>336109353
If he was taking inspiration by the Great Old Ones, yeah, he ended up writing Fanfic-tier beings. You could assume that he took inspiration from the Elder Ones, but that's be pretty naive, as I'm pretty sure that we both know how small their represantation is on Lovecraftian literature.
And then there's Squidhunter.
>>336109795
>not binge-reading all of lovecraft's works in your teenage years
>>336109818
Well, he does frenzy your asshole on the way to Mensis but that's about it, yeah.
>>336109858
I was busy reading ASoIaF and Halo shit.
>>336109845
Dude, Bloodborne is mostly inspired by the Dream-Quest.
If Miyazaki knows about the Dream-Quest, he sure as hell knows that lovecraftian gods don't HAVE to be apathetic antagonistic masses of blubber.
>>336109845
>representation
>that's
*representation
*that'd
I'm sleep deprived as fuck. Also, I'm not saying that the Great Ones in BB are shit, I'm just saying that making them emotional beings was a silly choice if they were inspired by the Great Old Ones.
Although, Ebrietas was half-human, right? I'm making a fool out of mysel and arguing over nothing.
>>336108951
>>336109169
>>336109559
Bloodborne is a horror game
>but it didn't scare me!
it's still a horror game
>>336110027
Do please tell how
>>336110009
Ebrietas isn't half-human, Rom is.
And it's not a silly choice within the context of the birth/parenthood motif. Lovecraft's Great Old Ones aren't so much antagonistic as they are just crazy. Bloodborne's gods being benevolent and emotional is actually horrifying in its own way because it implies that not even being on good terms with them can save you from a horrible fate since they're crazy as fuck.
And again, they DON'T have to be EITHER like great old ones OR like the elder gods, they're obviously a blend of both and it works just fine.
So I just started this game the other day, and it's pretty damn fun so far.
One question though, what is Arcane used for? The game seems like it doesn't have any spells.
Is it just for specific guns and trick weapons?
>>336110268
>aren't so much antagonistic as they are just crazy
I've always perceived them as forces of nature that don't really care about human morality and just are. Within their own context, they're almost devices to represent how small humans really are in the grand scheme of things.
But that's just my perception of them.
>>336110502
Instead of spells, you have tools you find with special effects that essentially fulfill the same function. The effectiveness of the tools generally scales with Arcane.
>>336110502
You'll find spells later as tools, but arcane really shines when you setup the proper gems on your weapons that scale with arcane.
Also ayylmao build which is endless fun.
>>336110763
Ah, so consumable items and the like? So let's say the Molotovs replace fireball spells from DaS if you're doing an Arcane build?
>>336110841
They'll be permament usables that consume quicksilver bullets as mana. That's where using blood bullets really comes into play.
>>336110502
spells are tools in this game that uses bullets
once you get a ton of them you feel like megaman with a shit ton of moves and attacks
>>336110917
>>336110930
Ah, I see. I guess I just haven't encountered any yet.
>>336110841
They dont really "replace" them, although a bunch of things like basic consumables scale with arcane
The arcane tools itself are the key, and you you find them throughout the game. They have things like flying blood skulls, mini star explosions, teleport dashes for some time, chameleon spells, buffs and more
Awwwooooooooooooooo
>>336108951
I don't know; Bloodborne is probably my second favourite behind Pathologic and I think of it as a horror game - it actually reminds me of a gentler Pathologic in atmosphere, which is why I like it so much.
Maybe not toospooky horror, perhaps, but the setting and atmosphere gave me similar impressions - you're in this gloomy world which operates by arcane rules you don't really know or can't figure out, surrounded by inscrutable forces you can't really comprehend, beset by numerous mysterious afflictions that are both horrific and that people seem to be doing literally anything to counter/harnessand it seems like no matter what you do, things only get worse.
>>336109492
Doll is cute, Doll is life
>>336109490
>>336109554
>>336109795
Thanks bros, might start with Rats in the Walls and then Colour out of Space
>>336111372
It's hard being an absolute madman all the time.
>>336111424
itsy bitsy dollie
>>336102435
WAKE
UP
U
SLAG
>>336111563
A CORPSE SHOULD BE LEFT WELL ALONE!
>>336111372
I started an arcane character
and holy shit Micolash has been destroying me for hours. I'm salty.
a call beyond only needs to hit me twice to kill me.
PURGE VILEBLOODS
>>336111636
>tfw NG+ micolash annihilates your anus with a single augur as a guest
An OHKO is an OHKO, even in a dream.
I'M GONNA GO READ POETRY WITH THE DOLL AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME!
>>336111586
You're the best miniboss but plz
work on your second phase so people don't parry u constantly
you're better than fighting the doll, dight?
>>336111636
be more aggressive. use a fast weapon. grab the mirror shield from the DLC if you have to.
>>336111636
Cheese him with the gloves from that ledge
>>336111798
>Maria will forever be a miniboss
That's what happens when you don't eat all your pea soup.
>>336108951
>not getting scared when you first discover upper cathedral ward
>not being scared when you get kidnapped to yahar'gul
SANGUINE
SAN
GUI
NEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>336102435
The graphics go down the shitter once the blood moon rises. Disgusting change of lighting color.
So was the Doll just Gehrmanns fleshlight after Maria went mad died?
And why the fuck does the Moon Presence want you to kill Mergo's Wet Nurse?
>>336111514
Caring Doll.
>>336111964
>So was the Doll just
No. Doll is pure.PURE!
>Already dead.
>>336102435
>horror
>comfy
That's just retarded. Even the least uncomfortable areas in Bloodborne still feel bleak and cold.
>still haven't bought DLC
I need to ask, is there good skill weapons in the DLC? I made a pure skill build and threaded cane is the best thing I got so far.
>>336102524
If a PC Gamer went to Silent Hill he would be chased by a gold faced man with an oversized Bloodborne box.
>>336111964
Evidence points towards the doll having been made while Maria was still alive, and Gehrman using her as a dating sim, rehearsing his proposal to Maria. Then she died and he buried her in his garden.
I also think the spare dress might have been intended as a gift for Maria, but that's just my idea.
>>336103885Shadows of Yharnam refers to Queen Yharnam, not the town itself.
>>336112197
Raku, yo.
>>336112197
DLC gives you a lot of weapons so you'll find something.
I WANT TO WRAP THE DOLL IN A VERY THICC FLUFFY BLANKET SO THAT SHE DOESN'T CATCH A COLD WAITING FOR ME!
>>336112124
>>horror
>>comfy
It's the horror games that can feel the comfiest at times.
Such as save points in Silent Hills or Resident Evils, or, in RE1, that one room in the right wing with the hearth.
>>336112197
Most of them are Strength or Strength / Skill hybrid.
It has a Skill Version of the Cleaver, a Dualbladed Katana and Curved Sword turning into a Bow for pure Skill.
So I played and beat Dark Souls 3 in about a week and a half off on playing but still think everything except framerate was better in Bloodborne
I think I am a few boss fights away from the ending of Bloodborne but was always distracted from the Chalice Dungeons
Should I finish it?
>>336105448
>>336105258
>Doll in her jammies with a nightcap that has a pompom at the end.
>>336106153
Hunter's Dream. I initially liked Moonlit Melody more but Hunter's is comfier. The humming in Moonlit gets kinda old and overall it feels more dramatic, whereas Hunter's Dream is just straight up relaxed.
>>336112509
The Chalice Dungoens have a couple of nice Boss Fights and altered Version of Weapons but you can ignore them throughout the entire game and only miss 1 set and 1 weapon (2 sets with Old Hunters).
If you just do the first one to get the sick Prospecters Set then never look at them again you're fine.
/fit/ doll
>>336109490
The shadow over Innsmouth was actually the first Lovecraft story I read when I was younger and mainly used to less subtle fntasy and horror literature and that way it worked really well to introduce me to Lovecraft's themes and concepts.
>>336112197
Beasthunter saif, rakuyo, and bow blade are all skill weapons. The church pick also scaled pretty well with skill.
>>336105198
Tomato.
Is there anything better than Chikage + Evelyn / Repeating for Bloodtinge?
Reiterpallasch seemed fun but it's kind of a handicap in PvE and Stakedriver needs to much Strength.
>>336105382
>Gods mating with humans to produce mutated offspring
>Dreamworlds that can be physically traversed
>Beings with no physical form that can't be understood
>Insanity meter is a game mechanic
>Knowledge is a two way street
>Space being a vast construct with unknown creatures beyond it
>a shoggoth is just kicking it in the game
You bait is strong
>Horror Game
>Horror Setting
Those are two different things you shits. The horror genre has suffered enough without you trying to redefine the concept.
>>336112993
>being this arbitrary
Everybody saw you expose your stupidity earlier, just get out.
>>336102524
>>336102582
Bloodborne has been the scariest shit I've played in a long time.
>>336113057
I just arrived to the thread. And it's not arbitrary, it's an important distinction. I don't even point it out to shit on BB - BB has amazing setting and aesthetics. But you shits are turning into that kind of fanbase everyone hates.
What's so terrible about getting definitions right?
>>336105463
>>336105703
>>336105785
>>336112952
You faggots know nothing about lovecraft, having a glorified bleeding gauge when you look at something is not lovecraft, if you idiots played Amnesia you would understand, OH OPS, consoles I forgot :^)))))
>>336111865
>upper cathedral ward
That place was disappointing as hell in retrospect. It starts off really well with all the messed up baby things scuttling around then all you fight after that are more wolves and church guys with a few brain suckers dotted around. They really should have put something more twisted than wolves in the area.
>>336113131
I think that the distinction not being made here is that it has actual horror elements, making it a horror action RPG, not that it's a Horror Game™ in the same vein as Silent Hill or Penumbra which may or may not feature jump scares (what defines 'horror' to most people today)
>>336112939
Reiterpallasch is a skill weapon so you won't get much out of that.
You can basically use chikage, evelyn, bowblade and bloodletter if you have enough strength and that's it for a straight bloodtinge build.
>>336113301
Bloodborne has jumpscares too, they're just used very sparingly, as they should be.
>>336113168
Yes, since when was Lovecraft ever about people performing horrific experiments to break boundaries that should never be broken, only to be undone by their hubris and slaughtered by the very things they made.
OH WAIT, HERBERT WEST BEING TORN APART IN THE END BY ALL THE PEOPLE HE REANIMATED, LEAVING THE NARRATOR OF THE STORY ALMOST MAD FROM THE UNGODLY EXPERIMENTS HE WAS PARTY TO
>>336113168
>Implying people give a shit about indie horror trash
>>336113560
He's doing it for the replies, anon. Let it be.
>>336108520
>They're closer to the Elder gods, which were suggested to be anthropomorphic until At the Mountains of Madness where they were revealed to be those winged starfish things. Even then, they were ultimately depicted in a sympathetic light.
Elder Gods=/=Elder Things
Get your facts straight.
>>336113245
What was up with those infants? The notes in Yahar'gul lead you to believe only one person will bear the child of a great one during the Blood Moon but Arianna's Child is the same as the 10 or so Baby Great One's at the start of upper Cathedral.
Oh, and another thing. Monsters with tentacles and ancient gods and discovering vague mysteries are only Lovecraftian in the most superficial sense. You know what the defining, most important theme of Lovecraft was? Humanity's insignificance. What usually drove people mad was not "spooky monster" it was the realization that their worldview was wrong, that we only saw the tip of the iceberg. And that the rest of that iceberg was inconceivably vast and home to beings and forces infinitely larger than us - so much that we weren't even something to be opposed, something to be destroyed, but that we were essentially nothing. Not even ants. Entirely insignificant beings, all our souls, all our culture, all our history and efforts, our progress our ambitions, all are insignificant and pointless in the face of the cosmos. It was a kick at that most basic fundamental in human understanding, which is putting itself in the center, and viewing everything though humanity's lens. It was the feeling of helplessness, of being nothing.
Bloodborne literally does the opposite. Empowering the player, hinting that the aliums care about humanity, even suggesting that humanity can ascend, can understand and gain insight of the things that own the cosmos.
Some of you will feel an awful itch in your anus now because you will interpret this post as hating on BB. I don't. The setting is great. But you shits have a high schoolers grasp of it, and misuse terms like "horror" and "lovecraftian". Ironic, really.
>>336113636Oedon just wanted to cuck the good hunter 2bh
>>336113560
>ever about people performing horrific experiments to break boundaries that should never be broken
Thats not really a trademark of all or even a high amount of lovecrafts stories.
>>336113636
They're human children who have been experimented on into becoming more like the kin.
You find a few dead ones in cages at the Lecture Building and they're all gathered around the orphanage which strongly implies this at least.
>>336113676
I dont think thats whats most important about his stories though.
Obviously its a common theme throughout the stories, but its never the main focus, its just something that is taken for granted.
Most stories are more about the influence that these alien beings have on us and our reactions to them.
>>336113676
Someone hasn't read the Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath.
Randolph Carter is a total badass by the end.
>>336113721
Well, I felt like the things about old gods, ancient mysteries and people discovering the traces of lost civilizations that worshiped gods older and more alien to us than the likes of Yahweh, Vishnu, or Quetzalcoatl was so blatant it didn't even need mentioning.
>>336113676
Several of Lovecraft's stories ends with humanity triumphant.
>Bloodborne thread
>Faggots who think they understand Lovecraft slam others for saying Bloodborne is Lovecraftian in a desperate attempt to stroke their e-penis.
>>336102675
>>336102970
horror games are usually about the atmosphere and playing with player psychology, not tediously running through the same level for the five millionth time because of artificial difficulty and bad hitboxes that belong in a college "video game degree" class project
>>336113168
Oh that's what this is. You have to devolve to consoleshitting because you have no argument.
Adults who can afford a high end PC and a Bloodborne console don't shitpost about it.
>>336114038
DSP please.
>>336113721
It's a trademark of his earlier stuff.
>>336108167
>if you were to write a story inspired by Evangelion you wouldn't trivialize the Evas, would you? Or you wouldn't make the Angels beings with feelings, right?
You might. You can be inspired by something without entirely copying every aspect of it. In fact, inspiration may come in the form of "what if I did something like this but changed X".
>>336114084
truth hurts don't it? oh but don't worry, you're like TOTALLY a hardcore epic dark souls gamer! praise the sun amirite? xDDD
>>336113676
>It was the feeling of helplessness, of being nothing.
It would have been nice if there was more of this in Bloodborne. Something like a huge looming monstrosity that shows up in another phase after the blood moon and just silently eclipses the entire sky. The Lecture Building level should have been much bigger as well and had some open parts that emphasize the fact that it's separate from our plane of reality and is just floating around in its own dream world.
Hey. How do i parry in Bloodborne?
I'm having a lot of trouble on gerhman the first hunter and i think parrying might help.
>>336113957
temporarily.
(not the same guy btw)
I mean, he's right in saying that the insignificance of humanity plays a big role in lovecraftian HORROR, but Lovecraft isn't JUST a horror writer.
Even then, the notion that humanity is fucked is very well-conveyed in Bloodborne. When you start the game, Yharnam is already ridden with mutants and by the end of the game it's pretty much entirely decimated and the hunters are the only humans left. Even then, they're all murder junkies.
When you think about it, the prophecy about the rise of the Great Old Ones in the CoC would probably play out a lot like Bloodborne: everyone becomes insane, people kill each other for survival art first and then just for fun.
>>336113865
And why do they have that influence on us, and why do we have that reaction to them? It is litterally the main theme, and any idiot able to google would know the same in five seconds.
>>336113880
And just like REanimator, it is a deviation from his main body of work.
>>336113957
How does the majority end?
>>336114227
Its the overarching theme of the stories, that is obvious, but every story has another unique aspect to it, that should be focused on.
>>336114227
>it is a deviation from his main body of work
and it's the primary inspiration for Bloodborne.
Really, most of the stuff in Bloodborne doesn't reference the Mythos so much as it references the Dream-Quest
>>336114227
>How does the majority end?
Unimportant.
You act like humanity's complete insignificance is integral to the very idea of a Lovecraftian horror story. When the man himself subverted that idea on several occasions. Your argument falls flat. Doesn't it?
>something needs to be a carbon copy of lovecraft in order to be inspired by it
Loving every lol
>>336114404
>When the man himself subverted that idea on several occasions. Your argument falls flat. Doesn't it?
BUT D V ASHUN!
>beat Rom
>feel strong enough to take on the dlc
>get my shit pushed in by the first hunters with whips and other weapons but eventually manage to squeeze past them
>get to the church with the tentacle faced axe man
>literally impossible to beat
Should I leave and come back later? I think I'm just over level 50
>>336114453
I don't get it either.
I mean, fuck, Quentin Tarantino has made his entire career on making movies that are nothing but 3 hour references to old movie genres, and the entire thing that makes his films interesting is how he playes around with the "rules" and expectations of said genres.
>>336114496
Learn to parry the hunters, they're pretty easy after that. You can just ignore the big axe man and keep running.
>>336114496
Fat Cthulhu is pretty tough using melee, especially considering his phase 2 involves magic blasts after attacks further frustrating dodge attempts.
I just run past him every time. He isn't worth it.
>>336114496
Tentacle Giganiggas are suck, but if you dodge behind them and hit them as hard as you can, they tend to go down.
I think parrying them is a good idea as well, I don't quite remember.
>>336114496
General consensus is you need to be 60-70 for the first DLC area. Then the second is 70-80, and the third is 80-90-100 because fuck it's pretty fucking hard.
Basically a good test is the hunters in the first area, if you can damage them enough to kill them in a handful of hits then you're pretty set.
>>336105382
>Bloodborne has literally nothing to do with Lovecraft
>true final boss is nyarlytotep
>>336114496
Best way to get up to snuff in the DLC areas is just dash through the first area grabbing as much loot as you can. You should end up with enough bloodstone chunks to upgrade your weapon to the point where you can manage to get through normally.
>What Plain Doll says to you in NG+ after Yharnam's Sunrise
Holy crap.S-She didn't forget!
>>336102435
Nightmare Creatures.
>>336115036
such a good dollie!
Man bloodborne needs a second dlc
I thought I was done with it but fuck playing DS3 left me begging for more BB
>they still couldn't top ludwig
>>336115036
What does she say?
>>336115172
Honestly, as a boss, nameless king is probably above ludwig for me.
They genuinely perfected the feeling of a dragonriding boss, the swoop's, the lightning throw downs, the storm effects, and the phase 2 is perfect as well.
I didn't enjoy ludwig's first phase, and felt that he was kind of lesser in impact because of his place in the dlc
>>336115181"This grave stands in memory of a hunter I once knew. Though enchanted by the dream, he/she remain strong, and eventually saw the light of dawn. …I pray you have found meaning, and comfort, in the waking world."
>>336115353
she says that everytime though, not only in NG+
>>336115353
Fuck.
>>336115353
Fuck the waking world tho I'm only helping them cause I don't want to disappoint my doll.
>>336115397
Are you thinking of this one?
>"Over time, countless hunters have visited this dream. The graves here stand in their memory. It all seems so long ago now..."
>>336115661
oh yeah maybe
>>336115661
clap clap clap
>>336111429
It is.
![c9b6efa1fcfa95a01cf7fdf8c2eb7c5a-d7rgvzq[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5F8B6o6.jpg "c9b6efa1fcfa95a01cf7fdf8c2eb7c5a-d7rgvzq[1].jpg")
>>336115483
Not wanting to disappoint your waifu is a strong motivator indeed.
I did it all for you my maiden in black!
>>336111372
Kos, or some say ____
>>336102582
Resident Evil and Silent Hill both originated on console. Don't blame consoles for OP being retarded, PCuck.
Here's this quote that I missed because I had no idea you could toggle this particular event. It's a DLC spoiler.>After defeating Orphan of Kos (The Old Hunters DLC) but before attacking the black shadow:>"Oh, good hunter. I can hear Gehrman sleeping. On any other night, he'd be restless. But on this night, he sounds so very calm. ...perhaps something has eased his suffering"
What's Graham Cracker's relation to that particular boss?
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DO YOU HEAR OUR PRAYERS
>>336115172
Doll costume DLC would be literally perfect.
>>336102767
PLIP PLOP PLIP PLOP
>>336116167
there's already the doll outfit anon
or do you mean a way to dress the doll ?
>>336116121
I dunno, I hear many people say that he is the Orphans father, but I have no idea how can one come to that conclusion.
>>336116121
He was among the first hunters sent to the hamlet to clean up the church's mess.
>>336116226
>or do you mean a way to dress the doll ?
Yeah, this - we settled on some outfits earlier:
>>336105198
>>336105967Tell me it wouldn't be perfect
>>336116153
>I didn't get a response from that hunter
>I better yell awoooo and ask him if he can hear prayers again
Goddammit he's a madman
Doll in a medieval damsel's dress (complete with silly hat)
Doll in a female clown outfit
Doll in a traditional Bavarese garb
Doll in a long tutu
Doll in a high-cut leotard and legwarmers
>>336117027
DOLL NAKED LIKE THE SLUT SHE IS
>>336117160
fuck off forever
>>336117276
make me
>>336117160
>>336118062
>non-articulated body
>memestockings
>memeskirt
NOPE
O
P
E
>>336118540
Doll is forIMPREGNATE
>>336103508
Can somebody tell me how these "open" bras are called?
>>336119082
boob bras
>>336118779
Doll is for tender, romantic love.
>>336114404
No, it is actually stronger. The only reason it is a subversion is because my point holds true. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a subversion.
![ludwig[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5JfHbwD.jpg "ludwig[1].jpg")
>>336102524
What would you define horror?
Jump scares?
Come on, anon.
It's 100% horror.
Bloodborne's based on Lovecraft's Dreamland story, not his regular stuff. Comparing it to Cthulhu and Innsmouth is silly and missing the fact the guy wrote other things.
>>336123201
Aiming to spook. Whether it succeeds is a matter of whether it's good or bad. But the aim must be to spook. That's not BB's aim.
>>336123323
Which is exactly why "Lovecraftian" is a misnomer.
>>336123365
It's clearly one of its aims, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered putting monsters and gore all over the place. You're clearly operating under the assumption that "spook" means "terrorize" or "startle".
>>336123463
Look I know that Lovecraft was aping Dunsany on Dreamquest but it's still very much his own story.
Also if you read the thread, you'll realize that people have successfully argued against your delusion that Bloodborne empowers humanity and isn't a very grim setting.
>>336123860
No, I'm not saying it's not his own work. What I mean is, "Lovecraftian" has a meaning to it. It stands for something. It's not just "resembling any work written by Lovecraft", it's "resembling the main body of Lovecraft's work, and the mythos expanded on by his peers."
>>336123997
You're saying it as if the Dreamquest isn't at the crossroads of all the trends in his work and isn't instantly recognizable as one of Lovecraft's creations.
>>336124206
And yet it deviates from the themes that constitutes "Lovecraftian".
>>336123997
So what's "the main body" of his works?
Is it a set selective canon?
is it just the majority of his works regardless of which ones you pick?
Sounds to me like you only have his yog-sotheries in mind, which the Dreamquest belongs to.
>>336124319
If you're going to define "lovecraftian" solely as "something that you can find in most of lovecraf's writing" instead of giving us explicit criteria, I can argue just as easily that Dreamquest is perhaps is most lovecraftian story since it encompasses material from a good dozen of his previous stories and has since then been referenced in even more stories.
>>336124398
You want me to draft you a list? Main body = majority. It's what defined the mythos and it's themes. Namely the "tip-of-the-iceberg" concept, and the futility of the life of man, and the dread that comes with realizing your complete insignificance in the face of the cosmos. The concept that madness is the logical conclusion to curiosity and insight. It's the themes that were picked up by his peers and later writers. That's Lovecraftian. Of course he wrote things that deviated from this. Some of those deviations serve as the exception to the rule, others were simply just, well, written in a different setting, a different genre.
I admit, you could call any writing of his "lovecraftian" by virtue of them being written by him, but as many other writers, he wrote different shit. When we typically use "lovecraftian" we refer to the themes I mentioned above. Or shitters use it to describe anything with a tentacle. BB doesn't really hit proper home in the Lovecraftian sense, for a variety of reasons. It is aesthetically inspired, sure, but it misses core themes.
How do I gid gud in this game?
>>336124890
>for a variety of reasons
then point them out, because I can easily see how all of the things you listed as characteristics of lovecraftian fiction apply to Bloodborne.
I know that it's very fashionable on 4chan to flaunt your knowledge of Lovecraft's writings by dismissing everything that looks lovecraftian as not actually lovecraftian, simply because there's a statistically high chance that you'll be right by issuing that dismissal. But sometimes it's not the right thing to do.
>>336116121
He and Maria (his student) were sent to cover up what happened in the fishing village. Maria stayed to make sure no one would ever find it.
>>336102435
I thought this qt was an NPC, but now I find out it's a boss? PS4 FAILED AGAIN
>>336125228
>I know that it's very fashionable on 4chan to flaunt your knowledge of Lovecraft's writings by dismissing everything that looks lovecraftian as not actually lovecraftian, simply because there's a statistically high chance that you'll be right by issuing that dismissal. But sometimes it's not the right thing to do.
Just as I know it's immensely popular to emply a straw man.
Alright, I'll give it a try. Bloodborne suggests the idea that mankind can take it's place among the eldritch abominations that in Lovecraft would bring it to ruin. Bloodborne suggests that the Old Ones may want to help humanity, instead of merely blindly rolling over them, uncaring for what they don't even regard as life. In Bloodborne, the world as we know it is not suddenly ripped away in the face of a larger, incomprehensible truth, instead it is already weird, trippy, and a dream. In Bloodborne, our main protagonist is well suited to, and overcomes the odds in front of him, instead of succumbing to the futility of even trying. In Bloodborne, man has the scope and tools to make use of the Old Ones, instead of the Old Ones making use of them. BB shows ruin and destruction, sure, but it also shows mankind evolving to fit it. In Bloodborne, instead of manking being powerless in the face of the will of ancient beings from the stars, it sees man take back the reins, and forge their own destiny(depending on the ending).
>>336125912
>emply
*deploy
The fuck, brain.
>>336126106
>The fuck, brain.
Ah, Kos, or some say Kosm...
>>336102435
>comfy
No. You need to leave. You don't belong here.
>>336125912
Again, that's an appreciation based on the dismissal of all HPL stories that end well or aren't strictly urban horror.
All the stories that belong to the Dream cycle don't have this all-encompassing apocalyptic endgame you're describing and all have supernatural elements at their core.
And, again, if humans can become immortal fish people, ghoul kings, omnipotent dreamers and time-travelling body-hopping wizards in lovecraft's stories I don't see why the good hunter can't become a squid god. At any rate, humanity is clearly FUCKED in bloodborne, precisely because they started dabbling in alien shit and the gods were happy to oblige. if a handful of people can make the best of this situation and thrive in it, it's not as humans but as mutants and madmen. Seems right in line with what I read in all of Lovecraft's stories.
>>336119082
Shelf bras or half cup bras.
