>DUDE LMAO, WHAT IF WE HAVE A BOSS WITH SHIT LOADS OF GRAB ATTACKS THAT SUCK YOU INTO AN ANIMATION
>DUDE, ALSO FUCK PLAYERS WHO DON'T HAVE A SHIELD, THEY'LL GET PULLED INTO AN ATTACK BECAUSE THEY CAN'T ROLL AWAY FAST ENOUGH
>DUDE LMAO, WE DESIGNED SUCH A GOOD BOSS
Any boss that has grab attacks that suck you into an animation even when you aren't anywhere near getting grabbed is automatically a shit tier boss that's garbage. Fuck SoC
>>336087626
>Not being tactical with a shield
>Being this mad
You're going to look back on this moment and laugh.
git gud
Get better at a game vs ai
>>336087626
git gud
only grab attack I had problem with was that assylum demon up on the wall because the wind-up was blended into the recovery animation from one of his slam attacks.
Also, calm down, take a break, and try again tomorrow.
Just get a shield, bæ...?
>>336087626
You're complaining about Lord of Cinder? Seriously? He's pretty much the easiest boss in the game. Eat a red bug pellet or something. Stop being so terrible.
>Not playing as a jack of all trades
>>336087626
never got grabbed. but i fell victim to that juggle combo almost every time
After Pontiff, Gundyr and Nameless King he felt really uninspired, his arena sucked too.
I don't get the praise.
I beat him today while 2 handing a halberd, it took a few trys but it wasn't incredibly hard.
You must fucking suck cause i'm not very good myself.
>>336087626
>shield users
>having slower dodges
The fuck are you talking about?
>>336087726
>>336087756
>>336087759
>>336087837
>>336087884
I think his point was "this boss design is not good"
Which can easily gets lost in the "im so good" bravado of nerds like you guys but lets consider the point that some of FROM's boss designs aren't actually good. And some the "legendary difficulty" people hype is actually artificial difficulty stemming from the initial poor design of the game/boss.remember bed of chaos?
>inb4 someone claims I'm OP.
>>336088165
You're so contrarian and cynical! How enlightened!
Is that the response you were aiming for?
>>336088021
hello me
>>336087626
Lord of Cinder was fucking great, you suck crocodile anus.
>>336088165
>I'm terrible at the game, so I'll blame the mechanics.
>>336087626
He had a grab attack? I never got hit by it...
>>336088385
Hey, did you remember to feed our cat?
>>336088312
no, I was aiming to facilitate real discussion about FROM's mechanics, instead of bullshit LOL IM SO GUDD! posting from 13 year olds.
If you want to circlejerk the same post 200 times then go ahead though.
>>336087626
He had a grab attack?
>talks about bullshit grabs
>Posts Soul of Cinder and not Dancer
>>336087626
He has grab attacks?
Damn. Worst part about being a good player who doesnt get hit is you dont know the outcome of his moves.
Oh well.
>>336087626
this dude is easy as hell he does jack shit for damage and is predictable as hell
I beat this guy first time as a shieldless STR build using Yhorm's Great Machete +5
I died to the princes 3 times before this
git gud
>complaining about grab attacks
>not using carthus bloodring to evade them easy as pie
As annoying as grab attacks are, aren't they essentially just normal attacks with a longer animation? What would be different if it was just a regular attack that did lots of damage and left you stunned for a while? If you couldn't dodge it then it doesn't matter if it's a grab attack or not
>>336087626
Is there any particular reason that the flowers from the Hunter's Dream in BB are in the kiln of the first flame in DaS3? Or are From lazy hacks?
>>336088563
Noble enough, but probably won't work. This game's psychological reward system spills over into bloated pride.
>git gud
>>336088687
ferreals, this ring was probably only put in the game for people who can't git gud
fokeen casuls
I beat him on a pure Pyromancy character
Get good friend
>>336089103
>Acting as if Pyromancy isn't ridiculously overpowered
>>336089243
He is resistant to Pyromancy though. Sorry :)
I've killed him twice and I didn't use a shield either time, I'm struggling to think of what you think the issue here is.
I'm not trying to say "git gud" or anything, but can you try to explain yourself better? I don't think I was ever hit by his grab and I didn't notice any real vacuum properties on it. It wasn't like the ogre things from DS2 or anything.
>>336088165
You might be right, except OP conveniently left out the fact that all of the 'grab attacks' this boss has all have at least a 2 second wind up period. They telegraph the move so hard that there's no way you should ever be hit by them more than once.
>>336087626
B-But.. I didn't use a shield on him. I beat him first try with the Dragonslayer Greataxe 2 handed.
>>336089352
Resistant to fire, not all pyromancy
I beat him with [my weapon of choice], you should learn to get good, OP.
>>336087626
soul of cinder is probably the easiest final boss of any souls game, though
>>336088614
his grab attacks dont even do that much damage, not enough to 1 hit kill at least
>>336087626
>>DUDE, ALSO FUCK PLAYERS WHO DON'T HAVE A SHIELD, THEY'LL GET PULLED INTO AN ATTACK BECAUSE THEY CAN'T ROLL AWAY FAST ENOUGH
You fucking w0t m8?
I used a shield for like the first hour of the game and never touched one again.
>>336087626
>only got grabbed 3 times in the 20 or so attempts it took me to solo it
You must really suck
>>336089952
there is no easier final boss than gwyn
>>336087626
i suck i cant beat him its not fun i wish nameless king was cause he was such a fun fight
>>336087626
I didn't realize /v/ was so full of shitters. Literally beat Soul of Cinder my first try with a fucking Great Club. Rolling R1 through all of his attacks, you're welcome.
>>336089834
Played Pyro all game, many bosses my friends struggled with were easy as hell. Final boss took me 2 tries, and I did indeed use black fire orb. Basically, black fire orb, great chaos fire orb, and one buff of choice is all you will ever need as a pyro for the pve of the game. Also, black fire orb dealt for me over 700 damage a hit in phase 1 of nameless, and still over 500 in phase 2. Pyro is ridiculously strong in pve. Too bad you would have to enter a sudden coma the moment before it was even thrown to get hit by one in pvp, but it hardly matters given how fucked the pvp balance is.
OP here, I literally beat Champion on my third try. You can all suck a bag of dicks.
>>336087626
>playing weebshit
See, that's where you fucked up.
>>336090639
Nigger, please...
>>336088013
It's a relatively creative idea
It reflects all the playstyles of the dark souls games and puts them into one fight then follows with an unparryable gwyn
That theme change was fucking great, it's when the realization of what the boss is set in
Arena is ass though
>>336090347
>you would have to enter a sudden coma the moment before it was even thrown to get hit by one in pvp
i've found free aiming a lot of the thrown stuff is works pretty well, just takes some getting used to
also baiting people into sacred flame is so fucking satisfying, pyro pvp is the best
I 2H'd him with the Gotthard swords after a couple tries. Just had to be patient, otherwise his fuckhuge sword swings and his lightning spears would rape me.
>>336087626
I beat him on my second try, with no shield. Git gud
Finally beat the fucker, and let the flame die out...
>>336087626
Literally have to be that guy right now, but I beat him on my second attempt and I dodged his grab every time
>>336088013
He's the first Lord and the one who slew him fused into a single being, his first phase represents every DaS style, his second phase is Gwyn, it's a pretty damned cool boss.
I'm shit at the game, and beat him one try. Git fucking good, faggot
I have never gotten hit by the grab after multiple playthroughs
How bad is your reaction time, you could make a sandwich in the time it takes for that thing to connect
>>336087626
Only way you can't roll fast enough is if your equipment load is above 70%. Just level up so it's under that with whatever gear you're using. It's not that hard
>>336088385
>>336088021
It must be a thing with Halberds then.
Disregarded blocking for that fight and just two-handed Gundyr's Halberd.
Do bosses normally take counter damage? This is the first time I've noticed it.
Can someone explain what the difference between the cracked red orbs and the whole red orb? As far as I can tell there's zero difference other than you can run out of the cracked red orbs but that doesn't matter since you can get the whole one extremely fast.
>>336093982
You guessed it.
>>336093982
That's exactly the difference
The ones that drop are only there for people who didn't get any tongues with their 5 free cracked orbs and don't know where the free tongues are
Literally the only enemy in the entire game that my sorcery worked decently on
>>336094218
>>336094179
That's pretty disappointing. Seems to me that From released the game and didn't have everything properly fleshed out. Hopefully the DLC fixes the fuckups they made.
>>336094426
It's been like that since DS1. It's made like that for a reason. The difference is you can get them pretty easy by farming, but the red orb negates the farm.
>>336088013
>1st phase is the player, 2nd phase is Gywn
>Not fucking awesome
Shut up dude
>>336094829
In DS1 you had to join an obscure covenant that's pretty far into the game and DS2 didn't have a perfect orb. You get a pale tongue extremely fast from the undead settlement and make the cracked orbs completely useless.
