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Why is Eskel not the MC of witcher game franchise?
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>more interesting than geralt
>more powerful than geralt
>fucks succubi
>complex backstory has barely been scratched
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>>336081154

Because Geralt was already the protagonist of the original books

Technically Ciri was the protagonist of the later books, but Ciri is too OP to be the playable character for an entire game
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>>336081154
Because hes got no charisma and is ugly as fuck.
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He isn't as cool as Berengar.
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>>336081459
The game series doesnt' need to necessarily be tied directly to the books. CDPR can easily make a game for Eskel considering there are alot of interesting stories about Eskel that aren't touched in the games.
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>>336081154
HE SUCKS
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>>336081154
>more powerful than geralt
Incorrect. He's equal at best.
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Witcher thread?

Also, which male character would you go gay for?
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>>336081981
Read the books?
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>>336082159
I did and I don't remember anything about Eskel being better.

>>336082025
What mods? Those textures look great.
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>>336082025

Already gay but I'd let Geralt plough me any day to be quite honest with ya family
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>>336082025
Roche
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>>336082237
I specifically remember drawing the conclusion that Vesemir prime > Eskel > Geralt when I was reading the books. If I remember where I drew this conclusion from before this thread dies i'll be glad to explain.
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>>336082025

>Olgierd Von EverBeckham

Can I get a hallelujah?
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>>336081154
Eskel isn't more powerful than Geralt. He has more magic about him. At best, that means he has an easier time conjuring signs.

That being said, I'm pretty sure someone at CDPR mentioned that if they did another Witcher game and it had a pre-established character as the protag, it would probably be Eskel.

>>336082469
As far as the games are concerned, Geralt is top dog. Eskel loses in a one-on-one against Caranthir. Geralt kills a weakened Caranthir, fights his way through several members of the Wild Hunt, and kills Eredin in a one-on-one fight.

He's also the one who kills Imlerith.
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>>336081752

I kind of hated how the Witcher 1 characters were completely ignored in Witcher 3.

>no mourning Berengar with your fellow Witchers
>no reminiscing about the absurdity of Grandma with Shani
>no option to discuss Alvin with Ciri
>no mention at all of Lady of the Lake
>no option for Siegfried to help you defend Kaer Morhen

The last one pisses me off the most. WHY DO WE NOT GET TO HANG WITH SIEGFRIED ANYMORE? HE WAS SUCH A GREAT BRO!
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>>336082413

>Roche will never rail you and scream "For Temeria!" and "Oh god I love you so much Foltest" as he climaxes

Why live
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>>336082469
Never was this stated in the books.
In fact it's flat out said average witchers aren't THAT amazing and Bonhart was killing them for shits n giggles and he was a regular human with no enhancements of any kind. He also said that Geralt was probably the best witcher around by far.
And Geralt is special in that he's the ONLY one that went through a fuckton of extra mutations because he took the initial mutagens THAT well. He's also a further gary stu in the form of having an actual Sorceress mother and has magic potential and could be trained into a full blown wizard if he so wished.
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>>336082716
Geralt's mother is a sorceress and Vilgefortz wanted to make him an actual proper mage so I doubt Geralt has less "magic" about him.
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>>336082716
CDPR didn't do (books Eskel) justice.
Imo made him too weak
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>>336082927
I thought Yennefer said in the game that Eskel was more magically inclined.
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>>336082970

Not to mention the fact that Triss is supposed to be all over his dick
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>>336083015
>the game
>prime canon
Stop, the games contradict books on multiple occassions.
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>>336082970
Better than Lambert. And that's all that matters.
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>>336083090
Sorry, it's not Yen that says that, it's Triss.

Also, irrelevant. Canon is canon, and in the case of conflict, the most recent iteration is what takes precedence.
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>>336081154
Geralt is more self insert able and more bland.
He's not anime Harem protag tier bland but he's Ginko from Mushishi bland.
Both do their job well but unlike most of their kind they sometimes find a way to finish their task with the least amount of casualties instead of just getting rid of their target.
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>>336083090

Which is funny considering that Sapkowski oversaw the writing of the first game
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Witcher power tier Geralt is definitely on top as he's the one that had extra mutations that made him go even further beyond. Also wizard mommy.
But young Vesemir or Eskel would definitely be second best.
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>>336082769
They wanted W3 to be a hit with everyone, and that meant relegating W1 stuff to light references. I dont really mind all that much, we still got thaler showing up, an alvin easter egg, and yen's immense asspain about triss sleeping with geralt for two games straight.

The real crime was killing kalkstein offscreen, though.
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>>336082823
I wouldnt' call Eskel average, in fact, he's at least above average. Also, considering how weak witchers can be i'm not surprised Bonhart could kill a few. This doesn't mean that the witchers that Bonhart killed had much experience in swordsmanship/the path.
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>>336083195
>Canon is canon, and in the case of conflict, the most recent iteration is what takes precedence.
The games aren't canon you dense fucking nigger, they aren't written by the original author, he even went on actual record to say that the games are fine on their own but they aren't canon sequels to the books and if he were to write a sequel book it would overwrite the games.
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>>336083212
He didn't, he only consulted them on few things and drew the map for them. It's all in the interview anon.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-06-ever-wondered-what-the-author-of-the-witcher-books-thinks-about-the-games
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>>336082025
im not gay, but i would love to suck gerald after he fuck me in the ass
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>>336083215
>The real crime was killing kalkstein offscreen, though.
RADOVID SUCKS FLACCID COCKS made up for it.
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>>336083215

Except that Siegfried is cool enough to "hit with everyone"
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>>336082769
We will never know what happened to Alvin.
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>>336083589
Is this bait? Please tell me it's bait.
The game all but flat out tells you The Grandmaster was Alvin. He has the amulet you gave him and flat out quotes all the things you taught him during the game.
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>>336083589

Adding to what >>336083723
already said, there's actually a sidequest in Witcher 3 that finally gives official confirmation that Jacques was Alvin.
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>>336081752
>ABLOOBLOOBLOO I WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM MY PARENTS TO BECOME A BADASS MONSTER KILLER INSTEAD OF A PEASANT SITTING IN HIS OWN SHIT :((((((((((((
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>>336083589
But we do Anon. He even leaves a letter to find in TW3 that confirms his fate.
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>>336083723
They only hinted but never really told you.
>>336083817
Really? Where do you pick up this quest or is it part of the DLC?
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>>336083954
>They only hinted but never really told you.
You have to be the dumbest person on the planet seeing as you lack reading comprehension and basic common sense.
I bet you're a fucking retarded Amerifat since I know from experience you people are literally incapable of reading inbetween the lines.
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>>336083954
http://witcher.gamepedia.com/Message_from_an_Old_Friend
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>>336083954
W1 is literally programmed so that your choices when speaking to little alvin reflect what jacque says to you in the tundra. There was never any shred of doubt.
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Who thought they fucked up in the ending here?
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>>336083954
>They only hinted but never really told you.

If beating you over the head with obvious signs like the medallion and him repeating the wisdom you told him when he was younger doesn't tell you, I don't know what will.
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>>336084090
Should've linked this
http://witcher.gamepedia.com/Letter_from_%22A%22
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>>336084289
Even Jaskier (Dandelion in English I believe?) flat out says DUDE IT'S ALVIN'S AMULET, DO YOU THINK HE WAS ALVIN?

The game literally hammers it in your face, to this day I don't know how the fuck some people miss it.
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>>336084302

I assumed that anon wanted to find the letter for himself via the quest
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It was fucking dumb he didn't talk about TW1 hit at all when he visited the frozen earth. It was literally directly connected. Worst than BioWare with this shit.
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>>336084302
>Ubermensch
Alvin was Fantasy Hitler wasn't he?
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>>336084064
>>336084090
>>336084289
>>336084404
>>336084416
Thanks friends.
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> Mfw get to play blind two full expansions with a years worth of DLC, updates and Mods

> Mfw Curvy Yen, Triss and Ciri mod
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>>336084658

More like fantasy Genghis Khan, what with trying to migrate all of his people for their perceived betterment
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>>336081154
Its because he was a tertiary character in the novels. Cdpr wanted to use a character who is more fleshed out and they wanted to have the books to lean on which is why the picked Geralt. Originally cdpr was going to have Geralt be an npc and have some new witcher be the protagonist but then they hit a wall when writing the plot of the first game and asked the author if they could use Geralt as the main character. Cdpr was in it's infant stage and needed Geralt who yes while he amnesia was still very much like Geralt from the books and was already written for them.
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>>336084796
>migrate
What? No he didn't. He didn't want to migrate shit.
He wanteed to force entire world's population to go through witcher mutagen transformation to turn everyone into Ubermensch, and in his logic those that wouldn't have survived the mutation process would've died anyway once the White Frost hit. And he was entirely right in that regard.
Where he was wrong however was assuming that he was the Chosen One, and not Ciri presumably because he didn't know about her existence.
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Because Geralt has white hair
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>>336082253
plough the lilies!
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>>336083460
>I'm not gay, but..
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>>336081154
Didn't Eskel have a side story in the original witcher?
I remember there being a story about a witcher who took in a girl who then was refused by the head of the wolf school and in her anger she wounded the face of a witcher and ran away.
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>>336084864
It's not like amnesia erases your personality.
Amnesia only removes your memories (only temporarily in most cases too), but your thought and decision making process will remain mostly the same.
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>>336084763
oh dear god, what ciri mod is that?
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>>336084997

IIRC he also wanted to move people south in that time due his assumption that the warmer climate staving off the Frost for longer
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>>336085174
One of the two DLC stories, yeah. You could explore the entire Kaer Morhen valley, but you STILL played as Geralt. It's just that the story was Eskel centric.
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>>336084997
Reminder that Alvin should never have existed and that the White frost was the planet tilting on its axis which ended up causing an ice age and making the planet in habitable 3000 years in the future and that Ciri was not the chosen one.

As much as I love the games I hate how cdpr changed those things.
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>>336085273
Yeah I thought that was Eskel who wanted to take the girl in but couldn't and she wounded him.
He would be a good character to see more about maybe not an entire game devoted to him but a side story how like Fallout NV was sorta a side story.
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>>336085308

Yep, Ciri's entire character arc in the books is pretty much ignored by CDProjekt
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>>336085253

http://www nexusmods com/witcher3/mods/1398/?
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>>336085263
That was during preparation to get as many people mutated as possible, yeah I remember that part now.

>>336085308
Alvin's existence is entirely harmless though. His entire point is that he drums up himself to be a chosen one even though he isn't. Him failing was obvious from get go and that's why you also kill him at the end. Witcher 1 is a pure example of a witcher fanfiction that adds to the plot without actually hurting the canon or raping the lore in general.

Witcher 3's mistake was trying to be this grand direct sequel to the books storyline instead of being its own thing like Witcher 1 was. Witcher 2 had a massive identity crisis and couldn't even decide if it wanted to be its own thing or ape the books.
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>>336085582
Why the fuck did you censor the link by removing dots?
http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/1398/?
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>>336085308
Unfortunately they had to dumb down Ciri's already somewhat uninteresting story arc into even more of a generic fantasy story with magical girl saving the multiverse. Guess it had something to do with wrapping up the story more neatly, even if it meant breaking book canon. Kinda annoyed why they had to force the White Frost so hard into the story, could have been simple enough with Geralt finding Ciri because she's wanted by Eredin for her womb. Then you add in how bad the Wild Hunt was characterized you end up with a messy story and poor villains.
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>Witcher 3
>Break down a wall to enter an old elven ruin
>Artifacts of a long-dead mage inside
>Geralt even comments that nobody's been here in centuries

>On the bookshelf is a book about the Slaughter of Cintra and Queen Calanthe
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>>336085582
Nigger tier mod.
Why can't you retards understand that Ciri is not meant to even look attractive? She gets shat on for being skinny ugly duckling throughout entirety of the book saga.
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>>336081154
Eskel is much better at magic than Geralt but is only at most equal to him in blade skill and physical ability
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>>336082769
Witcher 1 wasn't made with TW2 And TW3 in mind. It was basically a ''non-canon fan service game'', eventually the popularity made them realise they should make a series, so they made TW2 to bridge TW1 to TW3, and TW3 was basically the sequel to the last book.
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>>336085701
Almost nobody from Witcher 1 dev team even still works at CDPR or worked on Witcher 3 anyway anon. The new people clearly aren't anywhere near as talented.
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>>336085842

Um... No. Uggh.
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>>336081154
>has barely been scratched
are we looking at the same dude?
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>>336085931
They always had a sequel planned but the entire concept was only a "Witcher assassination plot on Foltest", it wasn't thought out or planned beyond that. You even have the cliffhanger Witcher 1 ending that sets up the stage for Witcher 2.
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>>336083323
I think what anon meant to say was that in the context of the games, latest iteration in the games takes presedence before books.

Books are 100% canon to games, games are 0% canon to books, basically.
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>>336086010
epic
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>>336086040
>They always had a sequel planned
No they didn't
>You even have the cliffhanger Witcher 1 ending that sets up the stage for Witcher 2.
They added this post-release
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>>336085931

Counterpoint: Siegfried is fucking awesome and more people need some Siegfried in their lives
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>>336086152
It was always there, stop shitposting.
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>>336086263
>It was always there, stop shitposting.
But, no, it wasn't. They added it post-release when they started working on TW2. The original ending was Geralt just ''wandering off to new adventures'' or whatever.
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>>336086152
I have my Polish 1.0 retail non-Enhanced release here and it was there all along anon
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I kind of hate how your Witcher 2 choices do very little in Witcher 3 and your choices in 1 have no effect whatsoever

I really hoped 3's story would change depending on if you killed Henselt or not in 2 but then they just completely handwave this and it isn't even one of the choices that gets carried over


What if you killed Thaler in Witcher 1? If you transferred a save all the way up from the first game, does 3 reflect this, or is he there anyway?
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>>336081154
He's beta.

The main character can't be beta.
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>>336086410
Well I guess I'm wrong then, and TW1 was simply complet and utter shit, nothing makes sense in TW1 if they had the storyline of TW2 and TW3 already planned out
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Does Witcher 3 fuck you over if you decide to stay out of other's affairs? The guy being hung outside Teh Baron's area I just let them hang him but will this bite me in the ass for some reason ever, or choices like this? Or am I just missing out on cool stuff?
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>>336086454
Different writers and dev teams for all of them.
Most of Witcher 1 people didn't work on Witcher 2 and most of Witcher 2 people didn't work on Witcher 3.
I hate how CDPR tries to play off this "look we're a small indie company guize" bullshit even though they're a very large Polish corporation.
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>>336086573
You're supposed to just do what you think is right

Stuff like that doesn't usually have too great of an impact, but your choices for the questlines of more important characters are impactful later
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>>336086542
>if they had the storyline of TW2 and TW3 already planned out
>and 3
First of all they clearly didn't have 3 planned out or 2 for that matter, all it had was the shitty cliffhanger which means that at most they only had the "Foltest assassination attempt" plot hook as planned intro for the next game but clearly didn't think beyond that since they didn't even know if the game would succeeed.
Heck they literally didn't even expect it to succeed internationally, it was made mostly for Polish and eastern european market.
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>>336085498
Yeah Ciri in LoTL is a lot different then what she is in the third game and her relationship with Avallac'h is fucking werid in the third game considering everything that happened.

>>336085596
I mean all the games are fan fiction but I get what your saying. I still love the games but cdpr tried to basically make sequels to the books instead of their own things which was a mistake as there was a decent amount of lore rape in the third game so their whole intent failed as the games can't be seen as proper sequels to the books.

>>336085701
Agreed. I know some people had issues with book Ciri but I preferred her a lot compared to what we got in the games. I actually think Cdpr fucked up adapting a decent amount of their characters like Triss and Dandelion. They seemed to be at their best when they were writing their own original characters like Gaunter, Olgerid, Bloody Baron, Saskia, Roche, Iorveth (he gets mentioned twice in the books but we literally no nothing about him) instead of trying to adapt the characters from the books.
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>>336086454
>What if you killed Thaler in Witcher 1? If you transferred a save all the way up from the first game, does 3 reflect this, or is he there anyway?
He doesn't show up for his cameo.
Same with Letho if you killed him.
Basically you miss out on quests.
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>>336086828
So the foltest assassination plot thing was just so they could have an excuse and a somewhat coherent plot for TW2 if they decided to pursue, which they later did?

Even worse.
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>>336081646
geralt voice is ufcking annoying as well and we enjoyed him through 3 games
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>>336086881

To be fair, the first thing Geralt says when he sees Avallac'h is "he's definitely not a friend, we need to be careful" and he proceeds to be just as confused by their alliance as all the book readers
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>>336087003
Correct.
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>>336087023
you sound stupid af
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>>336086932
I thought Thaler shows up no matter what and nothing carries over from the first game? I remember some anon bitching about how they retcon him back into the living.
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>>336087140
fite me irl phaggot
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>>336087053
What drove me so mad in TW1 and TW2 was the fact that they still didn't fucking have Yennefer in them, just more fucking Triss. And then we get TW3, base game is good, then they release a patch with Trisspandering because of whining on the forums

fucking hell
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>>336087148
Nah, that anon clearly didn't import the save.
You need to import from Witcher 1 to Witcher 2 AND then carry over that Witcher 2 save (with imported TW1 data) to TW3 for that choice to matter.
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>>336085953
source
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>>336086881
>They seemed to be at their best when they were writing their own original characters

CDPR can't really decide what to do with the book canon so they end with poor characters overall. Luckily their writing team is talented enough to create some great unique stories like HoS and I'm sure B&W, but their treatment of the main story ranges from ok to "how'd you butcher it this bad".
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>>336081154
I hate how they fucked up Eskel's scar in TW3. It's supposed to be from the mouth, across the cheek, and ending near his ear
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>>336086932
They don't even ask you about him in the simulated save thing though, like they do with Letho and Sile, so I find it a bit hard to believe that a real save secretly carries that bit of data up into 3
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>>336083276
yeah but wasn't Bonhart a monster hunter? I believe he was a very gifted human with a lot of strenght and technique. Like tiny bruce lee hitting like a heavy boxer
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>>336081752

Why is that man wearing leather panties on his head?
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>>336087358
Yes, but he never really killed anyone that was considered strong in the book universe. At least it was never talked about.
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>>336087224
That's what you get when you change directions during development.
Witcher 1 originally was supposed to have player generated custom Witcher (and it played like a Dungeon Siege/Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance clone)
Then they settled for premade character where Berengar was the MC.
Then they decided Berengar wasn't cool enough and rolled with Geralt as MC.
The game went through 2 major redesigns so of course it was a bit messy especially considering most of Witcher 1 was already done with Berengar still as MC and they changed him to Geralt very late in development.
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>>336087047
>Ciri talks about how everyone had plans for her besides Avallac'h who totally didn't want to impregnate her and was a elven lite version of Vilgefortz

What? Did Ciri become retarded after the books?
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>tfw we will never see the true best Witcher 1 bro again
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>>336087290
Compare the fucking credits, literally open YouTube and type Witcher 1/2/3 credits and watch them and see how little people remained between the games.
Most of Witcher 1 dev team went into Techland actually, their recent title was Dying Light.
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>>336086530
geralt literally just sits there and bitches rain on him

the only thing he'll be alpha about is getting boypussi
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>>336087337
Simulated save doesn't let you simulate ALL choices, only the major ones. It's a well known fact anon.
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>>336087560
Seems CDPR is where all the Polish game devs originate from. Those two indies Seven and Ruiner have ex-CDPR in their teams.
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>>336087560
>watch Witcher 2 credits

No thanks, once was enough

>"Watch the credits to see a special extra scene!"
>Credits are like 30-40 minutes long, list the name of every single person who'd ever walked on the sidewalk in front of the office
>No way to speed them up
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>>336087294
They are the opposite of D&D.
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>>336087358
>tiny
Bonhart was fucking ripped man.
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>>336087749

>D&D
>respecting book characters

lol
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>>336087536
Literally Batman: Werewolf Edition
Fucker even had his own "Batcave" of sorts with that secret hideout buiding.
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>>336087649
Most of the talent went to Techland but some went freelance or to work for other developers like City Interactive.
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>>336081981

Triss touched Eskel's hand, and found that there was a greater "hum" in power than even Geralt. I assumed this meant attunement to signs, but whatever.

Source is Blood of Elves.
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>>336087754
Bruce Lee was very small, even though he was well toned and he had a lot of strenght.

Superrior shaolin training or something.
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>>336087442
I mean Cahir was no chump and he did 1v6 the rats but the fact that he got really pissed off to the point were he tried to rape Yen when she called him out on the killing of Witchers makes me believe that she was right and they where either young ones or he used other means to depose them.
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>>336087536
I forgot, was the girl a vampire or not? I remember you go to the whorehouse and fuck a vampire or an imp-like thing.
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>>336087965
Lee wasn't tiny.
He was short but he was ripped as fuck.
I think you're confusing height with muscle mass.
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>>336088104
Completely different whorehouses, Carmen was just a normal prostitute
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>>336087823
Well they are at least at their best when they stick to the source material but ever since season 1 they have been doing their retarded OC shit and look what happened. Meanwhile cdpr seems to be the opposite and they excel when making up their own content.
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>>336087980
The rats were children, Cahir was a child.
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>>336087949
It can simply mean that Eskel has even more magic potential than the already high one in Geralt.
It's not like Geralt is supposed to have some uber high magic potential, just high enough to become a full blown proper wizard with proper training. He would without a doubt still not be Vilgefortz tier in terms of magic ability though.
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>>336084169
depends on the ending you got and there are a lot of em
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>>336087754
Bonhart was close to 7 feet tall if I remember or maybe that was Dijkstra and it was just said that he was taller than Geralt. I need to do a reread.
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>>336088104
Carmen's whorehouse was in the slums.
The vampires whorehouse was in the classy district.
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>>336088202
Cahir was in his 20s... yes he might have been a borderline pedo at one point. He was capable enough to fight equally with Geralt in a fist fight and unlike Geralt he didn't get knocked out during the battle on the bridge.
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He's ugly.
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>>336084169
I started shedding some tears when he told Emhyr Ciri was dead. Then I cried when I saw him alone by a fire. Then I went full bitch mode when Ciri was revealed to be alive and Geralt finally settling down with Yen. What a fantastic ending faithful to the books, all other endings are complete and utter shit.
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>>336083323
Oh god its like watching a Halo book fag bitch about Reach.
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Do I keep Olgeird's sword(left)?
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>>336088809
>liking Reach
>liking ANYTHING past H3 and ODST
Die
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>>336088829
Wait until B&W when you'll end up throwing it away inevitably. I wonder how many legendary swords I sold in my runs of TW3.
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>>336088869
>He didn't like them
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>>336088525
iirc Geralt almost killed Cahir on 3 separate occasions. I also believe he told Bonhart that he was a witcher in an attempt to scare him off but it didn't work. I'd give him a 3-3.5/10 imo
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>>336089010
You're everything that's wrong with modern Halo and I never read a single Halo book in my life. The post-H3 games are simply garbage.
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>>336088678
>faithful to the books
If that was the case Geralt and Yen would die while going to the market. Ciri will say fuck everything and leave the world, Triss would get killed by another mage while killing him at the same time, Eskel would die randomly in a pointless duel, Lambert would get burned to death, and Zoltan would get killed and die in Dandelion's arms.
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>>336088996
>tfw Crach gives me his family's legendary masterwork sword and I immediately go sell it for chump change because it's inferior to my mid-tier witcher sword
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Post best graphics mod

Post best difficulty mod
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>>336089091
Oh I know but Geralt>Cahir and it's not close but it's not like Cahir was scrub. Bonhart picked up a solid kill there.
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>>336088809
I mean he's not wrong the games are literally not canon to the main verse and to the books
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>>336088869
Reach was fun, I just wish it was about Blue or Red team tearing shit up before having to bail and jump out of the system. Also it had the best Sniper model.
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>>336089368
Which is kinda good considering its primarily a book series.
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Can anyone tell me why Letho doesn't show up at all in my playthroughs? I kept him alive in W2 and he never fucking shows in W3 when I go to his quest area.
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>>336089603
You didn't import the save it seems or you imported the wrong one. You need to import the post-epilogue autosave or it won't work.
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>>336089603
I met him in TW3, maybe you just chose the wrong dialogue options.
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>>336089254
I guess, considering Bonhart killed Cahir pretty easily and Geralt having 0 troubles with subduing Cahir you can only surmise that Bonhart is a skilled warrior.
You could come to this conclusion if Cahir didn't try to squeeze his way out of the fight by using intimidation tactics because he understands that he's too weak to fight the guy who kills weaklings.

Bonhart did indeed pick up a solid kill, for Bonhart.
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>>336089838
This make sure the save you used is the last autosave that shows the ending cinematic and not before the final Letho conversation
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>>336083589
It's for the best.
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>There are people IN THIS VERY THREAD that supported the Scoia'tael
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>>336090119
You're underselling Cahir. He was no great warrior but he wasn't some child. I agree Bonhart was overrated. He lost to a 16 year old Ciri and and Yen stalemated him in a fist fight and Geralt would have curbstomped him but he was still great just not amazing like Geralt or Godtier like Vilgefortz.If I was ranking them out of 10 Cahir would be a 7, Bonhart and Ciri an 8.5, Geralt a 9.5 and Vilgefortz a 10.
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Phillip didn't deserve what he got.
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>>336087259
I call bullshit on that, thaler was alive and dandy even though I used my witcher 1 save in W2.
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>>336091036
>Geralt 9.5
>Vilgefortz 10
There's a massive powergap between Vilgefortz and literally anyone else
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>Lambert the edgy manbaby with a JUST tier hairline gets his own quest where he showcases what an obnoxious faggot he is yet still gets a happy ending with his own sorceress
>Based Eskel gets jackshit despite being the most bro witcher with top tier banter and never gets a happy ending, also gets fucking buried by one of those wild cunts so Ciri the mary sue can look strong
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>>336091315
>letting Eskel get killed

You sicken me.
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>>336091315
>He didn't bail Eskel out

Dumbass.
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>>336091389
Eskel doesnt die but his only ending is just continuing to be a Witcher while everyone else gets married and other happy stuff

He can possibly end up being the last active witcher
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>>336091569
He probably ends up replacing Vesemir's role as caretaker of Kaer Morhen.
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>Romanced Triss
>Got to Yen and couldn't bear to refuse her so romanced her too
>Now it's near the end of the game and they both showed up and said they prepared something special for me

I-I'm scared, it's time to reap the fruits of my mistake
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>>336091218
Yeah the more I thought about I think Geralt would be at a 9 and Vilgefortz would be a 10+. He's quite clearly the big dog in magic and melee and even when he wasn't a 100% healthy he still quickly gained the upper hand against Geralt who recovered from the first fight while Vilgefortz never recovered from tanking the portal to the face. He was an absolute madman and was basically the final boss fight of a party based RPG.
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>>336091569
Eskel is pretty much Vesemir 2.0

Everyone shits on him and he gets jack shit for what he does, but he's the best of the best despite this and continues on his work.
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>>336091051

Speaking of characters that didn't deserve what they got... Letho was right.

Also I thought her dying was a copout and there should have been a third option to save her against her will.
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>>336091569
Considering how lowbrow Eskel is, kills monsters for an honest day's work, and doesn't get himself in the limelight, he probably would be the first witcher to die from old age.
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>Hello darkness my old friend
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>>336091756
>>336091814
Bit there's no witchers for Eskel to mentor/be a Vesemir figure to
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>>336091814
I just want a game where to play as Eskel, get hammered and wake up in Zerrikania or some shit.
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>>336091805
I always like to compare Vilgefortz to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gWwPqJZzAU
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>>336091756
If you talk to him at Vesemir's funeral he says he's going to find somewhere else to winter now, he can't bear to go to Kaer Morhen without Vesemir around

Not to mention there are no more new Witchers and Lambert and Geralt probably won't be around there either, so I believe him, that place would just be depressing as shit for him
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>>336081154

Cuz he is painful to look at

1st mod would be a paper bag on his head
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>>336087536
Yeah because I killed his hypocritical ass.
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>>336081154
>>336081459

I wouldn't mind this as the reason I can't play the Witcher games is I can't fucking stand Geralt, voice, character, personality, everything about him bothers the fuck out of me.
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>>336081154
This was my first thought playing W1.
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>>336091036
There's no fucking way Bonhart is a 8.5??
Bonhart is a 5 max, how are you ranking these people? Cahir didn't even do anything of importance/fight anyone of importance. He was a fucking intelligence officer for crying out loud.
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>>336092386
Bonhart is the best non-mutant/non-magic fighter in the series.
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>>336089102
>Zoltan would get killed and die in Dandelion's arms

I KNEW IT. The gayest ones are always the ones who have fucked the most women. That's science fact. I am going to ship so many tumbles you guys have no idea.
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>>336091871
Reminder that the this man is 70% responsible for why Geralt is famous, hell he might be even more.

>made a living off ballads based on Geralt
>literally just followed him around and wrote random ballads about him doing shit
>wrote a book about Geralt and Yen and also wrote ballads about them which lead to them becoming a fairy tale and becoming so popular that everyone knew about their relationship

When will we get that Bard's tale game?
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>>336092679
I'd beat the shit out of Bonhart with only 1 hand?
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>>336083576

Nah he's pretty gay
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>>336092765

But what do the pam params mean anon? WHAT DO THEY MEAN?
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>>336092739
It's true. Geralt had a gay love affair with Vilgefortz and we all know how much pussy Geralt as had.
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>>336093067
It's just a line from his ballad of the Two teats that he composed in honor of seeing Yen's titties after het shirt got ripped.

I actually wonder if he ever composed that one.
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>>336082769
i was just happy we got as many references to TW1 as we did in TW3. the letter from -A in the bookshop, the professor's glasses in hearts of stone, all the cool little nooks and crannies with references to witcher 1 and witcher lore in kaer morhen valley... it was fucking great. can't really complain. especially siegfried, i mean he pretty much said goodbye to geralt in tw2. heck in hearts of stone my geralt even admitted that he killed siegfried.
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>>336091863
I agree. Poor fucking Sheala, I liked her character. All of the sorceresses were good characters in my opinion, what a fucking shame that some of them just die because 'plot'
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have they announced when the new dlc is?

I havent played Witcher 3 yet, just beat 2 and was holding off of 3 until new dlc came out
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>>336094042
Yeah, it was weird, I actually ended up kind of regretting saving her in 2, but not for the reason I expected
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>>336094152
Some time in June.
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>>336091863
>>336094042
Read the books and you'll never feel bad for a lodge member or think any punishment too severe again.
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>>336094152
June 7 is the Polish release date which is going to probably be worldwide.
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>>336094565
This.
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>>336094152
>I havent played Witcher 3 yet, just beat 2 and was holding off of 3 until new dlc came out

Bad idea. The expansions are separate stories that can be played pretty much whenever you want. Best to play the main game and then use that save to play the expansions. I was already feeling burned out when I beat the base game with 100+ hours, I probably would have just quit if there was another 30+ hour expansion ahead of me.
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>>336094565
Mate, if only you know who you were telling ''read the books''

I still liked them though, I hate ''killing off'' characters to ''advance the plot'', there are much better ways to make use of characters in a story than simply killing them off, in my opinion.
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>>336092386
Stop underestimating Based Bonhart, people. Books states several times that Bonhart as a fighter was >>>>>>>> Ciri. Damn, even his reputation, Steffan Skellen was scared of him even when he and his man were outnumbering him 20 to 1.
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>>336095832
16 year old ciri is weak as fuck
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>>336094565
This fuck the lodge besides Rita and Yen but she isn't really part of the lodge
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>>336081154
Because he is ugly as fuck, and Project need a pretty boy with a big dick to push their games.
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>>336095210
Maybe people that dont have the time or simply dont want to? How about you tell us why the lodge was so bad?
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>>336095893
More like OP as fuck. Literally btfo every single man in the fight. Except Bonhart. Cause Bonhart was good. Probably the best fighter in the world.
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>>336091786
ya fucked up boy
triss is piss and you should not have made that mistake
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>>336081154

In my heart of hearts I know Dethmold would get on a megascope and shitpost up a storm.

>TFW no sorceress GF
ROASTIES GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEE
>Implying you know shit about magic
Post elf boypucci
A box just arrived, what do you suppose is in it?

GOD DAMN he's great. I WANT MORE GODDAMN DETHMOLD.
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>>336096671
Dethmold and Henselt both seemed bro as fuck, I hated that they both suddenly went mustache-twirling villain

The idea of a necromancer named fucking Death Mold actually being a cool guy was great
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>>336096171
He is definitely the best fighter vs weaklings. That's for sure.
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>>336096671
Why are TW2 faces so much better than TW3?
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>>336084064
>Amerifat
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>>336097103

*With closed mouths and not moving and during a few favorable lighting conditions

Overall TW3 is way better. Especially the animations.
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>>336084064
this is the exact same line i used against a yuropoor a couple weeks ago. you're probably that same one that got bto. go to any board with flags and you see yuropoors are the dumbest fucking posters who can't into subtlety. it's especially the case with the english. they are actual apes
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>>336081154
I'd actually like a game with MGSV structure built around Eskel maintaining Kaer Morhen.
Drop some convenient plot like Conjunction of Spheres-like event so there are more/new monsters, schools doing a meeting and Trials being rediscovered.

Have witchers with different skills/abilities and send others to different regions to work.

something something liquid alvin
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Then you clearly dont know much about the character because its not interesting enough.
Heres the thing, good stories have lots of interesting, well thought out characters that made the cast feel great. If only the MC would be interesting, you wouldnt give a fuck about the other characters, the only mistake they may have made in the vidya was not giving you enough chances to get to know the characters more.
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>>336097217
Even animated, Roche and Ves imo looked much much worse in 3 than in 2

Speaking of which I'm so glad Roche showed up and was a true bro again in 3
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>>336097763
I hated his questline. He's clearly a shitty leader for Temeria yet if you point that out to him you have to kill him.
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>>336096092
There's a great scene near the end of the series where the Lodge is unable to see that the real evil Vilgefortz did to Ciri was not allowing her self-determination and although their means were less brutal, they still had the ultimate goal of controlling Ciri and her child. They were an illuminati that tampered with nations, assassinated leaders, started wars, and believed it was justified as long as they benefited.

I'm just disappointed there was no option to help Radovid kill Philippa but she gets what she deserves in the end.
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>>336098061

I don't remember Roche ever trying to become a major leader. I even killed Dijkstra to protect Broche and Ves.
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>>336098179
If you kill Dijkstra, Roche takes over Temeria and gains its technical independence from Nilfgaard in a campaign of guerilla warfare, But everyone else gets fucked over and Temeria is still basically a backwater slum whose independence is predicated entirely on the fact that there is nothing of value for Nilfgaard to gain from conquering it. It's not a good ending for anyone really.
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>>336098365

Apparently we had different endings. In mine it WAS conquered by Nilfgaard and then granted free reign. Roche doesn't do a guerrilla war or anything.
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>>336097039
Henselt is a fucking pussy. Seriously one of the worst kings.
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>>336097078
If by "weaklings" you mean battle-hardened experienced but young fighters, then yes, he was extremely good at that.
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>>336098541
Yeah, it gets conquered, but Roche's TRA are such a nuisance and Temeria is such a shithole that Emhr decides to let them be autonomous rather than enable their bullshit.
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